Great job on the explanation of information!! I really like the SUPERB sound effects , it really lets the kid out to play and that to me is the important part!!
@theironhorse66002 жыл бұрын
Only trying to help but you have the primary and secondary transfers mixed up on the quad loop! Erase this message after you read this if you want! I hope I’m helping! Keep up the good work!
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Oh HEY! I've watched so many of your videos! Thanks for the help. I was questioning it myself. Doesn't make sense to me why the exhaust side upper would come in first. Seems counter productive to shoving the spent gasses out the exhaust. Seems like it should be the other way around.
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Could you help me out with a video explaining it better? And...give my channel a shout out?
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
Жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack 👍🆙BigGuy
@homopit42 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. With a small correction - on quad ports, primary transfer port is the one closer to exhaust port. The one closer to the intake is secondary transfer.
@jamievanatta7712 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking this down in a way that's understandable.
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@pauljcampbell2997 Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot. Thank you!
@Jesusiskingamen72 жыл бұрын
Good video man I been messin around this helped me alot
@marcoalvarez56822 жыл бұрын
Great explanation thank you very much every day I learn something new
@cajun31972 жыл бұрын
Been some great ported runners build from open ports
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! You can modify anything. But...you get what I'm explaining. Heck, you probably know it better than me!
@cajun3197
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack well I’d say I do. Why I have been trying to give you pointers when you’re off track
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
I love your pointers, and thank you, but... you think open ports are as good or better than closed ports? Not talking about HEAVY modifications. Heck, anything can be modified enough to outperform something else. The bones of a cylinder. That's what I'm talking about. I'f closed port isn't better, then why would EVERY high performance 2-stroke use closed port designs?
@cajun3197
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack i would only say that closed ports are longer lasting and have a bit more grunt because the charge is directed better. For high revs open are about the same performance
@cajun3197
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack I think you did a good explanation though
@tomjones43182 жыл бұрын
That's a clear enough explanation anyone can understand.
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws Жыл бұрын
Well done Big Guy👍🆙
@blairguinea6811 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brody, I thought I knew 2 strokes...................found your explanation fascinating
@budgillett96272 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@yankeenimrod20632 жыл бұрын
nice work, very informative video , now I want to cut a cylinder in half !!
@balazsporteleki37416 ай бұрын
Thank you, i got the difference
@richardhatfield915 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Alan_Hans__ Жыл бұрын
After seeing it explained like this I really don't know why piston sleeves aren't the done/common thing in 2 strokes. Much easier to cast and machine.
@MsMohaman11 ай бұрын
Hi. For example, the stihl ms 660 cylinder method of cutting out the bridge in the middle of the filler to make it look like e.g. At the husqvarna 55?? Thanks
@vascopires20452 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@julianlaustsen1991 Жыл бұрын
I learned that u should never port upwards or downwards because it ruins compression ratio, what are your thoughts on this?
@jordanhenson626Ай бұрын
That looks like my 372 cylinder
@shawndavis1759 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@novicelumberjack
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Nicky_Pin_It2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Vid!
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with sugarloaf parkway, just north of Atlanta?
@Nicky_Pin_It
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack nope...my name is for Sugarloaf Maine the ski resort
@ChippyOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Why thank you Chippy! I appreciate it!
@RussellHoughton Жыл бұрын
I ordered the cheapest 353 cylender kit on Amazon last week expecting open port and it was closed port and looked better then a factory unit. But at the end of the day I just want it to work good. I don't care if it's open or closed.
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
Жыл бұрын
Hey RH, What brand or ASIN# is that cylinder kit on Amazon?
@ozdatman2 жыл бұрын
Now talk about open vs closed in relation to case volume.
@antea90552 жыл бұрын
Can I use an open port cylinder on a crankcase built for closed port? Vice versa? (I have a 140s with broken cylinder and cant find a new one.)
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Should work fine as long as that saw has the option of an open port. What saw is it?
@antea9055
2 жыл бұрын
I have an Husqvarna 140s, 40mm, 32mm stroke and i can not find a closed port cylinder for it. Ive found a few open port cylinders that might work like the weedwacker 443r. Will a open port cylinder/piston work on a closed port crank case?
@davidgoliath9822 жыл бұрын
ms250 is a good example of a very nice running open port. dont know enuf to say much more than that
@peterjohn31808 ай бұрын
Kind of! There's no reason why an open port can't be angled away from exhaust, the angle upwards is more effected I think plus. In high performance cylinders the angle is not as angled away from exhaust to facilitate scavenging at high rpm. One way open ports get the charge to flow away from exhaust port is to have the port roof arranged so that the port open on the side opposite ex. Port first.
@DoSomething-7 ай бұрын
My open port cylinders rip
@Topsiekku11 ай бұрын
Kanavan muoto on liian törmäävä jos se on auki kokonaan
@davesteier-xf5lh4 ай бұрын
And there ain’t a single chainsaw enthusiast out there with a 3d printer that can replicate that damn Partner cylinder you got?? Then, if so, you’re on to going beyond machining process and can directly focus/work on flow now. Imagine a chainsaw running from the bottom side; That’s how the flow and “flow the cases” works on these things. /pine… Back To: Tapering, Channeling, Venturies… the angles of the dumps, their positioning behind the exhaust hell idk oh and Port Timing.. Rrrrr!!! RATS! Wasn’t it “EPA” was the reason for going to Open Ports? Closed Ports polluted”” more?? What was that? Just another marketing gimmick mask to get us to pay for it? “AWD”… “Quota” “Performance Evaluation..” Cuz I know for a fact! I’d pay $5 more for the saw and a “Xp” cylinder if that was the option. Because you CAN NOT just go out and put your hands on one of these cylinders, AS EASY as-if “it came with it”. Damn this 55 Rabbit hole!!! All this just for a damn chainsaw.
@noclass2gun34211 ай бұрын
That's definitely not a 440/460 cylinder... perhaps a 441 or 461, but definitely not a 440 or 460. The lower transfers on 440/460 are in the cylinder walls not on the base
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Great job on the explanation of information!! I really like the SUPERB sound effects , it really lets the kid out to play and that to me is the important part!!
Only trying to help but you have the primary and secondary transfers mixed up on the quad loop! Erase this message after you read this if you want! I hope I’m helping! Keep up the good work!
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Oh HEY! I've watched so many of your videos! Thanks for the help. I was questioning it myself. Doesn't make sense to me why the exhaust side upper would come in first. Seems counter productive to shoving the spent gasses out the exhaust. Seems like it should be the other way around.
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Could you help me out with a video explaining it better? And...give my channel a shout out?
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
Жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack 👍🆙BigGuy
Thanks for the explanation. With a small correction - on quad ports, primary transfer port is the one closer to exhaust port. The one closer to the intake is secondary transfer.
Thanks for breaking this down in a way that's understandable.
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
I learned a lot. Thank you!
Good video man I been messin around this helped me alot
Great explanation thank you very much every day I learn something new
Been some great ported runners build from open ports
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! You can modify anything. But...you get what I'm explaining. Heck, you probably know it better than me!
@cajun3197
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack well I’d say I do. Why I have been trying to give you pointers when you’re off track
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
I love your pointers, and thank you, but... you think open ports are as good or better than closed ports? Not talking about HEAVY modifications. Heck, anything can be modified enough to outperform something else. The bones of a cylinder. That's what I'm talking about. I'f closed port isn't better, then why would EVERY high performance 2-stroke use closed port designs?
@cajun3197
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack i would only say that closed ports are longer lasting and have a bit more grunt because the charge is directed better. For high revs open are about the same performance
@cajun3197
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack I think you did a good explanation though
That's a clear enough explanation anyone can understand.
Well done Big Guy👍🆙
Thanks Brody, I thought I knew 2 strokes...................found your explanation fascinating
Great explanation!
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
nice work, very informative video , now I want to cut a cylinder in half !!
Thank you, i got the difference
Thank you
After seeing it explained like this I really don't know why piston sleeves aren't the done/common thing in 2 strokes. Much easier to cast and machine.
Hi. For example, the stihl ms 660 cylinder method of cutting out the bridge in the middle of the filler to make it look like e.g. At the husqvarna 55?? Thanks
Very nice
I learned that u should never port upwards or downwards because it ruins compression ratio, what are your thoughts on this?
That looks like my 372 cylinder
thank you
@novicelumberjack
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
Awesome Vid!
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with sugarloaf parkway, just north of Atlanta?
@Nicky_Pin_It
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack nope...my name is for Sugarloaf Maine the ski resort
Good explanation
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Why thank you Chippy! I appreciate it!
I ordered the cheapest 353 cylender kit on Amazon last week expecting open port and it was closed port and looked better then a factory unit. But at the end of the day I just want it to work good. I don't care if it's open or closed.
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
Жыл бұрын
Hey RH, What brand or ASIN# is that cylinder kit on Amazon?
Now talk about open vs closed in relation to case volume.
Can I use an open port cylinder on a crankcase built for closed port? Vice versa? (I have a 140s with broken cylinder and cant find a new one.)
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Should work fine as long as that saw has the option of an open port. What saw is it?
@antea9055
2 жыл бұрын
I have an Husqvarna 140s, 40mm, 32mm stroke and i can not find a closed port cylinder for it. Ive found a few open port cylinders that might work like the weedwacker 443r. Will a open port cylinder/piston work on a closed port crank case?
ms250 is a good example of a very nice running open port. dont know enuf to say much more than that
Kind of! There's no reason why an open port can't be angled away from exhaust, the angle upwards is more effected I think plus. In high performance cylinders the angle is not as angled away from exhaust to facilitate scavenging at high rpm. One way open ports get the charge to flow away from exhaust port is to have the port roof arranged so that the port open on the side opposite ex. Port first.
My open port cylinders rip
Kanavan muoto on liian törmäävä jos se on auki kokonaan
And there ain’t a single chainsaw enthusiast out there with a 3d printer that can replicate that damn Partner cylinder you got?? Then, if so, you’re on to going beyond machining process and can directly focus/work on flow now. Imagine a chainsaw running from the bottom side; That’s how the flow and “flow the cases” works on these things. /pine… Back To: Tapering, Channeling, Venturies… the angles of the dumps, their positioning behind the exhaust hell idk oh and Port Timing.. Rrrrr!!! RATS! Wasn’t it “EPA” was the reason for going to Open Ports? Closed Ports polluted”” more?? What was that? Just another marketing gimmick mask to get us to pay for it? “AWD”… “Quota” “Performance Evaluation..” Cuz I know for a fact! I’d pay $5 more for the saw and a “Xp” cylinder if that was the option. Because you CAN NOT just go out and put your hands on one of these cylinders, AS EASY as-if “it came with it”. Damn this 55 Rabbit hole!!! All this just for a damn chainsaw.
That's definitely not a 440/460 cylinder... perhaps a 441 or 461, but definitely not a 440 or 460. The lower transfers on 440/460 are in the cylinder walls not on the base