As the screenwriter of a number of PureFlix films, I could hardly agree more with your perspective. I grew up watching indie films of the 80s and 90s, those filmmakers managed to make art with small budgets because they had a passion for the medium. It's not the budgets. It is a disregard for the art of filmmaking. And faith films will not get better until the audience demands something better, but they tend to evaluate films solely on the message itself. As for the counterproductive hatred of atheists and other non-believers, I tried to buck that trend. In Hidden Secrets, the first film produced by PureFlix (but its second release), my co-writer and I sought to create a fuller, more sympathetic portrayal, and, if the following review is any indication, we succeeded: "But don't dismiss Hidden Secrets as The Big Chill rewritten from a Christian perspective. It has the nerve to make one of its most appealing characters, a stem-cell researcher played by John Schneider, an atheist and the least appealing a scripture-spouting hypocrite. While its proscriptive tendencies might not sit well with some moviegoers, it does strive to distinguish between sinner and sin. Even the death merchant and the homosexual - played by Arkansan Corin Nemec - are worthy of love and respect; it's their actions that God despises." Nowadays, however, the audience reward films that fight the Culture War for them. It is easier to generate anger than compassion. I have no interest in that. As for the muddled purpose of Christian films, I think you will appreciate my recent blog: seanpaulmurphyville.blogspot.com/2017/09/building-faith-based-film-ghetto.html

@Josh_Keefe

6 жыл бұрын

Sean Paul Murphy Thank you very much for watching the video and for your comment. It is indeed a shame that that it is easier to generate hate than compassion. What has baffled me is why most of it is being done by Christian filmmakers. I sincerely hope this changes, it could result a golden age of artistic movies connecting its audiences to the divine through spirituality and relatable truths. Thank you once again for watching.

@alixinthemiddle

6 жыл бұрын

i'm an atheist. i do appreciate that you try to not paint all atheists as demon hellspawn. if you ever need an atheist perspective on something, there is plenty of us who would happily answer genuine questions.

@dudeist_priest

6 жыл бұрын

I was really happy to hear your perspective on atheists as well. I'm fortunate to have very understanding family and friends, who despite their beliefs, don't condemn me for my own. Everybody should be so lucky.

@simonduchesne4467

6 жыл бұрын

this is more, and more is an understatement, I say more than untrue

@shadenox8164

6 жыл бұрын

No Brian, it means we don't believe in a god. That is it. Everything else will vary from atheist to atheist so you'll have to talk to them to find out what their beliefs are, sounds like you think atheists are nihilists.

“The Christian shoemaker does his duty not by putting little crosses on the shoes, but by making good shoes, because God is interested in good craftsmanship.” Martin Luther

@happyoneforme

4 жыл бұрын

Lindy Baker ❤️❤️

@thethirdsicily4802

4 жыл бұрын

I may not think of him in a good light, but yeah, that sort of hits the nail on the head with that quote.

@ieLindy

4 жыл бұрын

@@thethirdsicily4802 What causes you to think of him in not a good light? Just curious.

@_Gaby_950

4 жыл бұрын

Not the best of men, but at least he got a few things right.

@tridonstrident6785

4 жыл бұрын

@@godefroydebouillon1440 A heretic?

Jesus is the Light, but most Christian movies can't even get the lighting right.

@ameenahsf

6 жыл бұрын

SpringInFialta 😂

@TimGraceAndFaith

6 жыл бұрын

Haha I died.

@springflowerblosomnorris9721

6 жыл бұрын

SpringInFialta There's a big difference between Christians and believers . Christians have the name Jesus in their life. Believers have the spirit of Jesus in their life.

@Ashes2Ashes_Blush2Blush

6 жыл бұрын

SpringInFialta AHAHAHAHAA

@dosmastrify

6 жыл бұрын

SpringInFialta HA!

As a Christian who believes that A LOT of our media is hot garbage, it’s nice to hear and see fellow believers talk about why that is and how we can and should improve on it. There’s still gonna be hardcore believers who won’t listen to people like you, but those of us who do understand this.

@shortangel333

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who isnt Christian, the few Christian films I have watched, I watched with friends to make fun of. Not because they're religious films but because they sometimes fit the so bad its funny category. With things like bad acting and bad writing, like Troll 2 and Llamageddon. Awful Awful films, but they're really funny to laugh at. Then I came across a film that I just thought was going to be bad, the premise is: It's 2025 and Christianity is illegal and the world is taken over by one government that forces communism. So from that I thought it would be hilarious. It was the most boring thing I have ever witnessed. It had many scenes of just characters talking in their basement and then one scene at the end where the main character is in a car chase and then executed for being Christian. Although two films, that are actually on KZread, well they're films about the Catholic faith and they're are my two favourite films ever. All I'll say is its called Karate Nun and its about a Lesbian nun with a thirst for vengeance and she must save the catholic faith from Nazis, the Illuminate, the Illuminazis, Communists and Evolution/Karate Charles Darwin.

@ToothedKrux

7 ай бұрын

I believe that the problem with most Christian movies is that they are not (only) Christian movies, but Evangelist ones. Their main goal is to convert and strengthen a person's belief, rather than to tell a story. This rather utalitarian approach just messes with the film's quality, as the goal is put front and center, rather than the story. However, it doesn't mean it has to mean that every Christian movie is bad. I mean, a more popular movie is Bruce Almighty, which talks about the problem of theodicy, an often overlooked topic. Another good, yet lesser known Christian movie is Adams aebler, a danish movie about a Neonazi who has to do community service by staying at a remote church for other troubled adults. In that movie the pastor of that church is reliving the story of job. It's a really good dark comedy that also offers an insight into how people generally see suffering and how we could see it to make it more bearable, if you take your time and think about why the pastor does these things that way. In conclusion, what we want are not Evangelical movies, but Theological ones. After all, a good story entertains us, while a great us can teach us something that will stay with us.

@Nexus-Flare

7 ай бұрын

@@michaelmurdock4607yeah it felt natural and you didn’t really have to be Christian to watch it. It was funny vegetables giving life lessons.

@petrakurnia6772

6 ай бұрын

I'm an atheist, but I like some christian themed anime, they're so cool. Even Japan made manga / anime / drama where Jesus & Buddha are buddies and have vacation in Japan, it's wholesome

@PaulBrower-qr8hf

6 ай бұрын

@@ToothedKrux Indeed, look at the movie Angels With Dirty Faces. It is clearly pro-Christian (OK, the hero is a Roman Catholic Priest) who saves boys with problems from lives of crime. It's not so much about faith as it is about the Straight and Narrow as an objective, but that coincides with Church teachings. Life is tough for Irish-American and Italian-Americans in the 'ethnic' slums, but criminality is shown to lead to a very bad end. Corruption, greed, and ostentation lead to murder and the electric chair. The acting is great and so is the writing and the filming.

I totally agree. Working in retail, you see A LOT of "so-called" Christians being as rude & inconsiderate as Hell. Here is an example. There was this guy I had a MAJOR crush on for years. He called himself a Christian. When he finally asked me out on New's Years Eve, I thought I had hit the lottery. We met & talked. He expressed that he finally "found his place" in God's ministry. I, however, told him that since I had endured many health problems & broken hearts that I lost faith in GOD, & I'm OK with that. We went to his house & things were going WAY TOO FAST & I felt very uncomfortable. I told him to stop, but I literally had to fight him off. He said "All I need to do is ask for forgiveness. You are already cursed to Hell so why are you resisting?" I stormed out of his house, & never looked back. Also, it amazes me how many "Christian" men think Atheists women are supposed to be "easy." & I'm just not. The hypocrisy is real.

@annanas9122

Жыл бұрын

...And that's exactly why I despise it so much that religion always tries to monopolize morality. Being atheist doesn't mean you're immoral, yet that's exactly the message that at the very least big monotheistic religions are spreading and weaponising and I absolutely hate it.

@PhantomationTV

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit.

@fadel_rama

Жыл бұрын

God damn

@garden.of.thistles

Жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ!

@mc12358

Жыл бұрын

I'm a theist, but I detest hypocrites that use the name of a religion to get what they want. Religion is about sacrifice and love, not greed and personal gain. I have far more respect for an honest atheist than I do for a dishonest "Christian".

The only good Christian media: Veggietales The Prince of Egypt

@spooderman6312

3 жыл бұрын

Narnia 321 penguins (not the best but had potential)

@nietzscha5056

3 жыл бұрын

I would add the Disney short "The Small One" to that list. Maybe I'm just getting old, but even as a non-religious person I watch it every year around Christmas, and it gets me every time.

@jeant6502

3 жыл бұрын

What about: The Passion of The Christ Ben Hur Silence The 10 Commandments Hacksaw Ridge The Last Temptation of Christ

@pssd-ff-dth-grps-fn8797

3 жыл бұрын

The Excorcist is technically a Christian movie

@jeant6502

3 жыл бұрын

@@pssd-ff-dth-grps-fn8797 It's not. just because it has a priest in there won't automatically make it a christian film.

Ok, being a Christian and having watched lots of Christian movies, I can say that most of them are bad. But, prince of Egypt..... NOW THAT’S A BANGER

@axeld2150

4 жыл бұрын

Because it was made in the golden era of DreamWorks.

@brokenearth7079

4 жыл бұрын

100%

@medexamtoolsdotcom

3 жыл бұрын

the original 10 commandments with charlton heston as moses was ok too. As long as you only watch it once in your entire life.

@DraconicDuelist

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because it was adapting an interesting and compelling story, rather than making a modern-day preach fest. Which is more interesting? A grand story set in the past when miracles were supposedly all over, with drama and grand conflict; or a small-scale no-risk argument with poorly written characters and pathetic resolution...

@jaybrittain2428

3 жыл бұрын

I think that honestly the movie was good because it was not aiming to "send a religious message" but was just trying to tell the story. It hit quite a few religiously accurate points because they consulted scholars from all 3 major religions that share the story.

As a Christian, you have correctly diagnosed one of the main issues with modern Christian cinema. Notice I said ‘modern’. Ben-Hur and Jesus of Nazareth are both masterpieces in their own right.

@Th0mat0

Жыл бұрын

One word: Protestantism

@JoeArant

Жыл бұрын

@@Th0mat0 Certain flavors of it maybe…

@slaslatantofaz3282

Жыл бұрын

@@Th0mat0 have u seen "The Chosen"?

@johnpatterson4816

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget "The Nun's Story","The Hiding Place";"Lillies of the Field"and Johnny Cash's "The Gospel Road". Plus "Two Mules For Sister Sarah with Clint Eastsood a d Shirley MzcLaine.

@christianalexander579

Жыл бұрын

As a Christian wtf kinda sentence is that 🤦🤦😂😂

As an atheist, it is quite refreshing to see a Christian such as yourself. Keep on beeing you, my dude!

@loturzelrestaurant

Жыл бұрын

Ngl, if there was ever a Reason to learn about Atheist-Content and the valid Criticism of various Sorts they give for Religion, its now. If there wasnt a Reason always, then now there s: Now that Politics fused with Religion, bringing us whats called Trumpism.

@TheSpacePlaceYT

Жыл бұрын

@@loturzelrestaurant !?!?

@Charky32

7 ай бұрын

?@@loturzelrestaurant

@brayerkh

7 ай бұрын

@@loturzelrestaurant ¡¿¡¿¡

@Waltyworld

7 ай бұрын

Agreed

christian movies be like: > character is introduced > have the word "god" or "jesus" 70 times every 5 minutes > problem appears > god/jesus/chritianity is what saves the main character

@ziggystardust2435

3 жыл бұрын

lol yes. like as a christian, when my friends and i hang out, we dont go "oh yes jesus is so good" every five seconds and like "* the toaster dings * oh jesus is real!, without him that wouldnt have happened" like there are ppl like that that ive met that i find super annoying but thats not all of us. and it can really get annoying. but yeah if im hanging out with someone im like "how was school" "boring'" "same" like its not all based around jesus and how holy he is all the time. theres a big theological discussion behind this but some people miss the part that, just living and doing life, its pleasuring to god.

@cactusgamingyt9960

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with every reply and this comment.

@Jixsurez

3 жыл бұрын

Christian movies suffer from deus ex machina lol

@dani.lepore9410

3 жыл бұрын

@Elijah Argumedo it's already a topic that smash my ears sll the time. I don't want Christian propanda in Hollywood movies too.

@jaeleyvang3038

3 жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t be a Christian movie if the main character saved themself. I do have to admit that some Christian movies make me cringe, but I’ve also seen great ones too.

Girl: “ I have cancer“ Guy: “this couldn’t wait till tomorrow“ “grow up Amy” No one talks like this.

@bigj1905

3 жыл бұрын

You sure? I always yell about why I hate god and react negatively when people tell me he is real.

@kaydwessie296

3 жыл бұрын

No instead he'd say she should have prayed harder and he'd blame it on something she did like getting a tattoo

@nunyabusiness168

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigj1905 you and me both

@nunyabusiness168

3 жыл бұрын

I would if I wasn’t paying attention and was drunk

@iheartlreoy8134

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaydwessie296 lmao yes my family blamed SIDS on a tattoo

The Prince Of Egypt still impacts me with the interpretations, musical style and not “fluffing it up,” but making it more realistic compared than what most would do.

@noahmclaughlin7921

Жыл бұрын

The Prince of Egypt is genuinely one of the best movies I've ever seen and possibly the best animated movie ever. It's like they took all the potential quality of every other Christian movies and put into that one insanely good movie to balance out all the terrible ones.

@flickcentergaming680

Жыл бұрын

I'm Pagan, and I absolutely ADORE The Prince of Egypt. From the art style and music to the storytelling, that movie is sheer perfection.

@Salikino

7 ай бұрын

It’s the only Christian movie I love

@HenryGray-sy4pu

4 ай бұрын

I'm an atheist, and I love that movie. The narrative and music are truly amazing, and it's not obsessive about its message at all. It just wants to tell a decent story. Really goes to show how many narrative archetypes originated from religion.

This video honestly made me feel so much better about my opinions on Christian movies. I grew up in a Christian household and I’m still a Christian. When I was in youth class, my youth pastor showed us a ton of Christian movies and I always thought they were very poorly directed and unrealistic. I’m glad though that my parents taught me to respect everyone’s beliefs and to mind my own business. A lot of other parents at our church would judge my parents for telling us that because they thought that if we hung out with kids who grew up with different beliefs, we would become like “Them” sheesh

@gardener68

6 ай бұрын

I grew up in a fundamentalist community, too, but in the '70s and '80s. I would be obliged to watch a lot of Christian films back then, and the one constant from then to now is that these films were NEVER good. While poorly made, a Thief in the Night was especially traumatizing to a child, particularly when you realize that the film's purpose was to frighten the viewers into never straying from the faith lest they suffer the horrors depicted in the narrative.

@queenofcats9240

6 ай бұрын

@@gardener68 I’ve heard of that movie. I’m glad my church never showed it to us because a lot of the older people in my church did say that it sent chills up their spine when they first watched it. I feel like even now, as a 24 year old, I probably would still get scared by it

@Doflamingowithacat

6 ай бұрын

I can relate but at least my mom allowed me to watch violent anime like Demon Slayer or Attack on Titan cause she really doesn't care

@NoahOD_22

6 ай бұрын

While it’s true that we should respect others’ beliefs, that doesn’t mean that we should “mind our own business” all of the time. We are called to spread the Good News and to be always ready to give a defense of the Faith. This will often involve telling people that they’re wrong. And though many would perceive this as disrespect, it’s not; we are called to do these things in love, but never at the expense of truth. The truth, unfortunately, can hurt. It’s especially dangerous to think close association with unbelievers is harmless. Now, surely we should still associate with unbelievers-for how else could we share the light? But one mustn’t be ignorant with regard to the pitfalls of sin. Bad company corrupts good character. Using discernment in matters of choosing fellowship is vital. That is to say, it is quite literally a matter of life and death. Will your loyalty be to the world (and therefore death), or will it instead be to God, in whom all things have their life?

@gardener68

6 ай бұрын

@@NoahOD_22 And, congratulations. You just demonstrated to all of us what's wrong with the world. I used to be a Christian, and the very attitude that you just exhibited is the main reason I left the faith. Calling other people potentially dangerous merely because they don't share your religion is hateful.

Veggietales is the only Christian Media worth anyone's time. EDIT 3/14/21: And Prince of Egypt, too. My Bad.

@sho.thatsit

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, definitely!

@Anna-tk7ui

3 жыл бұрын

Prince of Egypt: Am I a joke to you?

@Mar0nSun

3 жыл бұрын

I F Y O U L I K E T O T A L K T O T O M A T O E S

@TheProfessor230

3 жыл бұрын

and you can learn tax evasion too!

@azurerogue3633

3 жыл бұрын

any veggie tales made in the last 3-5 years is utter trash. after big idea flopped and was bought out VT dropped in quality really bad

I’m not religious at ALL, but... the Prince of Egypt is a timeless masterpiece that makes me get emotional every time I watch it

@obitosenju3768

3 жыл бұрын

It is an masterpiece but a not fully religious and that is good. Movie lets you decide and it does not shove it down your throat

@posthumously

3 жыл бұрын

that’s because it’s not a Christian movie 😭 it’s a Jewish movie EDIT: yes, guys, i know that christians can also relate this movie to their faith. i was making a lighthearted joke, the point of which was that this is a story about a group of jewish people more than a thousand years before jesus was born, so i wouldn't exactly call it a Christian Movie™

@Hudah425

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@CharlemagneGuy127

3 жыл бұрын

Same, especially with its creativity liberties and animation.

@nightninja1595

3 жыл бұрын

@@posthumously Christians and Jews believe the same thing up until the New Testament. Its kinda both.

Used to be a Christian, forced into it by my family. Left because my agnostic friends were more family than my actual family.

@alvanegra253

Жыл бұрын

♡

@vittoriacolona

2 ай бұрын

You were never a Christian to begin with. Being a Christian is a personal relationship with God through Christ. It is a revolution and change of character. Not a social club.

@user-dx3de8pt9z

Ай бұрын

@@vittoriacolona Who are you to decide that over the internet? What a poor Christian you are claiming someone's faith was false based on a few words. Shame on you. Clearly you are not a "real Christian" either because no good Christian would be so quick to judge. You are not the judge for Christianity that is up to God.

@jfzzlc

Ай бұрын

​@@vittoriacolona Christianity is a religion. One can lawfully leave and reenter a religion if they so desire. If you cannot leave your religion, then it's not a religion. It's a cult. Let people find themselves the way they can and feel inclined to. Stop putting a bad name on actual Christians, and grow up.

In my opinion, the best Christian movies were the ones that interpreted Biblical stories in an unique way without getting preaching for example, Passion of the Christ, The Nativity Story, Joseph: King of Dreams, The Prince of a Egypt, The Ten Commandments, The Little Drummer Boy, and Noah

"I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christains, because those Christians are nothing like Christ." -Mahatma Ghandi

@ww2germanhero

3 жыл бұрын

So right. I've never seen Christians wearing beard, long hair, ancient jewish clothes and walking over the water or ressurecting.

@pilaracevedo2078

3 жыл бұрын

@@ww2germanhero They don't even speak Hebrew

@ww2germanhero

3 жыл бұрын

@@pilaracevedo2078 lol (aramaic actually)

@grimuk3817

3 жыл бұрын

Expecting ordinary, weak, fallen and inherently flawed humans to emulate a God that walked among men is ridiculous. And the comments attributed to this original comment are equally absurd and derisory.

@liviwaslost

3 жыл бұрын

@@grimuk3817 lol its a joke

"All art is propaganda, but not all propaganda is art." -George Orwell

@johnathonhaney8291

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Blair knew what he was talking about.

@mannenop3149

5 жыл бұрын

"I always have diarrhea but diarrhea dos not always have me." -My Intestine

@politereminder6284

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@politereminder6284

5 жыл бұрын

@@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127 propaganda ≠ politics.

@gspotcyplick

5 жыл бұрын

starmanghost and what exactly was so political about Jackson Pollack or Salvador Dali?

This is one of the reasons I love The Chosen so much. Even the Pharisees and the Sanhedrinists and the Romans - antagonists who we’re not supposed to root for - are still depicted as human beings with complex thoughts and emotions. They’re not simply caricatures that we’re supposed to despise; they’re actual people!

As the priest at my church always says, the church is for the broken, not the perfect.

What's particularly hilarious about the first God's Not Dead movie is that the strawman atheist professor isn't even an atheist in the movie. He believes in God alright, he just happens to be angry with God because of something that happened to his wife. That's not an atheist. That's a bitter and angry theist. If you think a God is responsible for everything that happens here on earth you're a theist, not an atheist.

@denaoc

5 жыл бұрын

His mother died of cancer when he was a child.

@fnln3011

5 жыл бұрын

The professor was a misotheist. Misotheism being a hatred of God/the gods

@grahvis

5 жыл бұрын

I think many ardent believers simply cannot imagine how an atheist can go through life without any thought of God ever playing a part, how they don't need an invisible friend.

@rae5425

5 жыл бұрын

The God That Failed.

@AlexfromNorway

5 жыл бұрын

most atheists seem very angry with God..

What I as an atheist find especially problematic about these films is that they don't even seem to understand what atheism is. They depict the atheists not only as pure evil but also not as real atheists. They depict them as people who ultimately know that there is a god, but are filled with contempt towards them. This is completely wrong and the exact opposite of what we are. Atheism is not a hate towards god, it is a lack of belief and therefore, an indifference to a god. Atheists do not in any way believe in god and to depict us as believers who simply hate him shows that in the christian community, there is a lack of understanding what the difference in our positions and beliefs even is.

@charissa6648

2 жыл бұрын

They do not even portray Christianity accurately or Christians and purport more of a political ideology rather than a biblical one! It is a depiction of christians always being perfect, knowing everything, without struggles or suffering, and always making the right decisions! These movies are dangerous and awful! Yes! Athiests were portrayed inaccurately, and I can only imagine how infuriating it is!

@1Tako1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those people aren't atheists. They're Christians who hate god.

@fernmiranda

2 жыл бұрын

My very favorite thing is when a Christian accuses me of worshiping the devil. Like, dude, I don't believe in him either. Next.

@lauras.9294

2 жыл бұрын

@@fernmiranda Yeah, that's just so funnyXD

@crowdemon_archives

2 жыл бұрын

@@fernmiranda That specific group of Christians are just infantile at best.

Can I just say...I stumbled across your channel today. And as a student majoring in Film (who's also Christian) this is gold. Thank you for your content. Please keep making more. Especially the ennegram segment :)

@jamiethatlady

Жыл бұрын

Sameee. I was just like how about instead of complaining about the poor quality of Christian films or the vulgarity of secular films I use God’s creative genius + formal education and get to work! 📝

@mayalynn8629

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiethatlady Right?! What field are you in?

I experienced something similar to this in a few points of my life. I’m a Nondenominational Christian and have been all my life/as long as I can remember. Even though I went to a Baptist school from the time I was 4 til I was 14, I always knew that different religions existed and never saw them as inferior to mine. I was never told to disrespect people of different faiths, and I still don’t to this day. It makes me feel ashamed to see people being persecuted for their faith, whether it be Christians like me or people of other religions. I’ve never tried to dumn down people’s faith with science. Even though there’s things I scientifically believe/know that don’t actually hold up in the Bible (like Earth only being 6,000 years old instead of OVER 4 BILLION years old and dinosaurs walking alongside humans), it doesn’t sway me from my faith and make me believe that it’s all just lies. Since I was 3, I’ve been obsessed with biology and how the natural word works, particularly the prehistoric creatures of Earth (mainly dinosaurs). Even though Earth is well over 4 billion years old and life has existed since 3 billion years ago, it doesn’t make me believe that God didn’t create everything. I know evolution exists, as there’s proof of it, but there’s also proof of Biblical events too and I’ve never been swayed by that. Like I said, I don’t and try not to disrespect people because of their faith. But, I have seen people be disrespected for their beliefs. When I was in 8th Grade, our history teacher was a Christian who used to go to my Church. I was an old friend of her daughter too. Almost every day, we’d start off class by reading a certain chapter or so of a certain Book in the Bible. One of my classmates was an atheist, but I never called him an idiot for not believing. My history teacher didn’t either, she respected his opinion. One part of that came down to her not forcing him to read the verses everyone else read. Then one day, we had a sub. She wasn’t aware that my friend was an atheist, and so asked him to read. When he refused, she got mad at him. Everyone else tried to explain to her what was going on, but she refused to listen and had him sent to the office. I thought to myself, “What just happened?” That same year in 2018, I had been going to Church for years, but then my older cousin invited me to go to Youth Group with him. Youth Group at my Church is a Wednesday night event from 6 : 30 - 8 PM at my Church for all the teenagers to have a night every week to see eachother, hang out, and have more experience to get to know God on a personal level through our Youth Leaders. One of them who I’ve known for years is practically my best friend, and even though I’m technically too old to be a teenager at Youth Group now (I’m almost 19 as of the time that I’m writing this comment), that doesn’t stop me from talking to him or any of my other best friends from Youth Group. When I first started going to Youth Group, I was also told about CIY: A one week trip where Christian teens from across the country would get their Youth Groups together and head to college campuses that were open in summer just for us. The one me and my Youth Group went to is in Salisbury, Maryland, and I was absolutely HYPED to start going. When I went and came back, I knew I’d be going next year. And guess what? I did! CIY was and still is amazing for me, a week to get away from all the pressures of life at home and come together with your friends and hundreds of other people to share the love of God. When COVID hit in 2020, I was devastated that I couldn’t go to CIY that year or the following year. I did, however, have the chance to go in Summer 2022, the last time I could go as a Student (I was 18 1/2). It made me upset to know that, at 18, I could no longer be a Student at CIY or in Youth Group, but it made me happy to know that I could still be with my friends again. This time though, I witnessed something strange. On a few nights this time around, we would have a message at the end of the day talking about people suffering in a certain country around the world from many of the problems in that country, but the religion of those people was always listed as a problem as to why they were suffering. To say that a people’s religion is a reason for their suffering, to compare it to prostitution, drugs, and gang warfare, was not only insulting to me, but to my whole group and probably many others. We had talks afterwards on those same nights concerning the ethics of saying a message like that, and it made me wonder as to why anyone in the 21st Century of Modern World would sound so Christian supremacist in their message. I know that there’s things that I don’t yet understand about my religion, but I know that one of them is not to villainize and demonize other people for faiths. If Christ said to speak with love, to love your enemy, than why should we be taught now to hate them?

@joelcarter2535

6 ай бұрын

Well the bible does teach a young earth

"You're not making Christianity better. You're making Rock n Roll worse." ~ Hank Hill, King of the Hill

@Zak-bv4qm

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yes lol.

I like how this video doesn’t condemn Christians, It just states the quality of Christian movies are not very good.

@thecapitalg

3 жыл бұрын

As a christian, I know right.

@DonVigaDeFierro

3 жыл бұрын

As an atheist, I like that too. Christian bashing makes all of us look like idiots pretending to be "critical thinkers".

@ortezac.5339

3 жыл бұрын

What makes it even funnier is that my atheist classmate just sent me this link... And as someone forced to watch some of these movies at the dinner table, I wholeheartedly agree with how sketchy the movie quality is.

@strikeforce1500

3 жыл бұрын

Agree!, I am not a Christian, nor religious person myself, but it's great when an art and artist (or in this case a group of people) are separated

@kobushauman3310

3 жыл бұрын

Yes... as a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ I completely agree, and I'm thankful for the fact that the criticism is aimed at 'low quality movies'. I am thankful to the Lord Jesus Christ for that, and God, and His Holy Ghost. Sometimes when I try to tell people about Jesus I think I come across as saying they are wrong somehow (...perhaps not, but I'm always SO afraid of coming across that way). All I want is perhaps for someone to think about this Jesus guy FOR THEMSELVES. But it is amazing how many people have a very strong opinion about Him, without reading the 4 books by His crew that describe His life and words. These books were written by Matthew Mark Luke and John. There are even versions where His words are in red so it takes about 3 evenings to read all of His words ever spoken. Read. Be informed. Decide. Easy.

This is actually why, as a vegetarian, I disliked going to vegetarian restaurants for a long time. Many times they were run by people who were passionate about vegetarianism but not food.

As a devout Christian I’ve always stayed away from religious media outside of Sunday school, because most of it isn’t about telling you Jesus, it’s about selling you Jesus, with as little effort and talent as possible. The prince of Egypt is awesome though, and the chosen is pretty great (Doesn’t make you pay or watch ads)

@slevinchannel7589

7 ай бұрын

Atheist-Youtubrs have often agreed iwth you and so has Hbomberguy

As a christian im often embarassed by really dumb cringe things that represents my religion ...bruh

@ziggystardust2435

3 жыл бұрын

i think im in love with you

@pvdreves

3 жыл бұрын

Same here for sure! I think the more God gets religion/ self righteous attitudes out of the church the less we'll cringe.

@agent_8167

3 жыл бұрын

Bro sameeeeee

@moirarusaw9567

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It really hurts my soul sometimes

@TurtleReefReal

3 жыл бұрын

i'm christian and totally agree, but there's actually one show that's amazing imo that i would say is worth checking out. it's called "the chosen," and it's REALLY well made and actually has good acting and dialogue. other than that yeah our religion doesn't have good movies/shows.

Jesus is fine, but his fandom makes some weird fanfiction. I must say.

@mimisaur5000

4 жыл бұрын

hehehehe

@5winder

4 жыл бұрын

I'm His biggest fan, and I can tell you --- there's nothing fictional about Him.

@christianalbertjahns2577

4 жыл бұрын

@@5winder you're quite certain to yourself. Be careful so that you don't deny Him three times before sunrise

@dracosol4415

4 жыл бұрын

I mean can you blame them? Have you SEEN all the Jesus statues? He looks like he hits the gym 8 days per week

@livialiu3365

4 жыл бұрын

@@dracosol4415 Not gonna lie, kinda get the hype

I really agree with you. I am a passionate Christian and I love doing art. And I know that this is what God want me to do. But at first I was afraid to do christian art, because I thought I had to restrict myself, because all of Christian fiction I knew were those mostly awful Christian movies. I was grasping on the little we have, but God had to show me at first that this is not the case, and there is so much I can do! I had to go through a spiritual crisis to understand this.

@derphyn

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, Thundercat. We seem to have similar paths. Being an artist is hard; being Christian is hard; put the two together and it's exponentially hard. Works by Francis Schaeffer, Sr. have helped me a lot, as well as connecting with Gutenberg College in Eugene, Oregon, USA, a great books liberal studies micro college. Fortunately, we are not alone. Go in peace.

As a Christian I can even say you are 100% correct

@tacos4me584

Жыл бұрын

Christian film writers (one’s who actually have a passion for film as well) need to make more movies. For instance the chosen is fantastic

In my church we watched JUMANJI... the preacher stopped every 10 minutes to tell us what the things happening had something to do with Christianity but honestly I think he just wanted to watch JUMANJI 😂🤷🏼‍♀️

@darth_autismo

4 жыл бұрын

F

@michellesmith9256

4 жыл бұрын

Delfy Daun LMAO.

@HannahBoo

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 I have no idea how Jumanji has anything to do with Christianity .

@mariusm957

4 жыл бұрын

Tell him to repent

@androidfolife1179

4 жыл бұрын

Tell him to stop being part of this world! That movie is satanic! God says the father is not in you if your part of the world in my own words!

As a Christian, most of these movies are an INSULT. They almost never portray anybody for or against religion correctly, and they’re just… poorly made. Really hope we can get something better in the future.

@tristantheoofer2

2 жыл бұрын

and apparently they potray athiest ppl (like myself) as if they hate god but atheism i think is literally just being indifferent to god lol

@connorwojeckowski7288

2 жыл бұрын

@@tristantheoofer2 most atheists (that Christians can remember, mind you) are the fedora tipping “if God good why bad happen?” People trying to debunk thousands of years of theology

@patchwurk6652

2 жыл бұрын

@@neotoad456 ... Dude if you weren't trying to come across super fucking creepy, you massively fucked that up with that edit of yours.

@OfficialDenzy

2 жыл бұрын

@@neotoad456 weirdo

@kingsmas8340

2 жыл бұрын

The Chosen is a really good one it depicts what the Bible says not just made up people with made up stories but rather the actual people stated in the bibile

I love the points you make on editing. Good editing can tell such a great story. I remember taking an art class in 7th grade and we were doing a unit on comic book art, and we were shown two sets of panels. One of them had everything from a pretty perspective, and everyone almost looked the same, and there were no close-ups on the action. Then, the second said was much more interesting. The monster crashing through the wall was drawn in a way where the "camera" so to speak was below a monster's waist, making them look much bigger. When iron Man rushed the monster and got thrown away, there was a close up showing the intense action, making this little scene look a lot more riveting and exciting because it looks more like a huge monster was crashing through and attacking the heroes versus this pretty normal sized monster throwing iron man. These same concepts apply to movies. Where the camera is, when it cuts, how quickly it cuts, or if it doesn't even cut at all, can help tell the story in such unique ways.

Wow. I am almost speechless. Now THIS is one beautifully made video!!! It's short so it's not too tiring despite the heavy subject matter and polarizing ideas. I hope I can share this with my family someday. When they're willing to try and listen, if they ever are.

"I have cancer." "This couldn't wait until tomorrow? Grow up, Amy."

@matthewburgoyne1379

4 жыл бұрын

Yah Amy grow up

@danielrudenas

4 жыл бұрын

C'mon Amy, grow up.

@AirsoftTim92

4 жыл бұрын

I love how the unspoken meaning behind his tone is basically, "Grow up, Amy, if that IS your real name."

@bamma4

4 жыл бұрын

grow the f*ck up amy

@Vlad-ri8hb

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Amy so Unconciderat you're not a kid -if I did a spelling error sorry im German

My church took the youth group to see a Christian movie. We were expected to talk about it afterwards. I was the only one who didn't like the movie, and when I brought up my criticisms of it, call me an English student but I went straight for the fact that the movie was inconsistent in how it told its story. Long story short the movie was about a boy who was mad at God because his mom died. Over the course of the movie, he learns through his girlfriend and struggles that he should trust in God's plans even when they cause him grief. At the end of the movie, his brother dies. And he just... gets over it. There's not even a single scene of him grieving his brother, and their relationship was the most important thing in the movie. When I pointed out that the message of trust God was undercut by the fact that the main character, who had spent an ENTIRE MOVIE questioning God about the death of his mother, wasn't even going to have a single moment of being upset about the death of his brother?? It undercut the message, it disregarded characterization, and it honestly was unnecessary. The brother dying accomplished nothing, since it happened at the end of the movie, and thus the only thing it did was give the main character a reason to look like a hypocrite. Ugh. I hated it. I hated how they just tossed the brother away for tragedy and then never resolved it, never let the main character grieve, or even have a scene that established he now understands God's plan sometimes involves hardship. HE JUST GETS OVER IT. I pointed this out and every single other person talked about how beautiful it was. It's not human, it's not beautiful, and it doesn't make a good movie. It doesn't even make a good sermon. It was just dumb. Also the brother was disabled so it was an extra slap in the face to kill him for no reason.

@blackfalcon3752

3 жыл бұрын

This is pathetic. This movie is so bad.. Who made it.

@shelbinicole4192

3 жыл бұрын

What movie is this? It sounds awful

@armellebiampamba4257

3 жыл бұрын

Run the Race?

@agustinaprasanti5117

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of this one Christian movie my high school class had to watch once. The main message is basically drugs are bad and don't ever do drugs. Most of it is pretty stupid and generic and the production is crap, but the ONE THING I cannot forgive is the fuckin BULLCRAP of an ending it had. TLDR the kid got addicted to drugs, he goes into rehab, finds himself again through a spiritual awakening in the church (of course), and then he decides to try to help his former drug buddies get some help. At this point, I loved the movie. Best Christian movie I ever watched (which isn't saying much). AND THEN THE KID DIED BECAUSE OF SOME BULLSHIT GANG REVENGE RIGHT AT THE END AND I JUST- It was unnecessary, the kid had a fuckin BEAUTIFUL character arc and the writers just THREW IT ALL AWAY for no good fuckin reason. It's basically sending the message that once you do drugs it stays with you for life and no matter what you do, you can never get away from it, and even if you DO get help and get away, you'll just end up dead. Which is a bullcrap message if you ask me.

@Rolando_Cueva

3 жыл бұрын

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I've seen some great Christian/faith building movies the last few years (at least for a Christian like myself), but I totally agree. I'm an aspiring filmmaker myself, but not only because I want to convey a message. I love the art, and my background is in the theater. I love the process of creating and exploring, working with the actors, discovering the magic that light can do and so on. I'm not interested in just saying the same things one could more easily say in a sermon or in an anecdote. I desire to go deeper and discover that deep that can touch each person, whether they are Christian and not, and reveal some universal truth, that hopefully can bring them closer to see who Christ really was and is. I just made a short film about my own struggles in building a Christian focused filmbuisness, and sent it to a Christian film festival. My animist friend from Nepal saw it and said afterwards: this is not for Christians only, this is universal. That was a great compliment, even though I know the production quality was not that high. In the end of the day it's not whether the film has the highest quality in light and cinematography. You can forgive a lot of that. It becomes preachy when it's not transperant, not honest, when you feel that the journey is already made. I have a goal and I have a standard, but I wanna learn, explore and discover on the way, and be open for God to take me to new, unknown places. And my respect for the truth and experiences of other people will be one of my guides. That's what challenges us and helps us grow.

@k3nree

7 ай бұрын

Is there way I can watch your short film ?

Someday, I wanted to make an actually good Christian video game. An RPG with a moral alignment system, where the object is to save others. However, if you demonize others, they will be literally demonized! They'll turn into monsters right before you, and you'll have to kill them. You'll then be permanently unable to save that person, hopefully the player will realize on their own that you can't save people by demonizing them.

"Can't you see you're not making Christianity better? You're just making rock and roll worse!" - Hank Hill

@jonothandoeser

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha!!!

@randybarnett2308

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@joelgordon7814

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much.

@raguel4416

3 жыл бұрын

Stryper tho 👀

@frankfletcher_1

2 жыл бұрын

Laughs in Sabaton The Last Stand

A self aware Christian, you’re harder to find than affordable healthcare.

@alesbrewery

5 жыл бұрын

Chicken Nugget *Laughs in Canadian*

@gregorymirabella1423

5 жыл бұрын

@@alesbrewery *laughs in depression*

@PlaneBoy2520

5 жыл бұрын

Ale's Art *laughs in 15K of debt because of one broken leg*

@PlaneBoy2520

5 жыл бұрын

CJ P. Actually they wait less than most Americans

@tsidkenuo

5 жыл бұрын

I am a Christian and I am self aware

The problem is these Christian movies are not designed to be artistic expressions, they are propaganda and propaganda only. Christianity does not promote creative free thinking so this is the cringey crap you get.

@rohansamuel

8 ай бұрын

Even if someone comes up with a creative idea they would slam as demonic and unholy

You're right as rain. Same issue with music. Every Sunday morning incompetent "musicians" massacre even the best songs, claiming they're leading worship when they're only want to be entertainers. But they're not entertaining either.

As a Christian I've been more impacted by films like Hacksaw Ridge, Silence and Prince of Egypt than any of those other ones. A lot of these movies are just a big circle jerk and portray atheists as evil and greatly exaggerate Christian "prosecution" (if you can even call it that).

@zacharysiple629

2 жыл бұрын

Those are 3 of my favorites- POE is my favorite movie! :)

@blackmber

2 жыл бұрын

Hacksaw ridge had a memorable impact on me too, but I also wished I hadn't watched it, and read the stories instead. I watched it with a group of people and missed the clip that showed the rating; otherwise I wouldn't have watched it because violence is too triggering for me. I wonder if there would have been a way to present that story without getting so graphic, to make it more accessible to viewers who steer away from mature content ratings. I was under a cloud for the next 24 hours and decided it wasn't worth it to watch R-rated movies. It's a tough decision because those raw depictions have a strong impact, and maybe the film would be less effective without them, but more people would be reached as well. It takes creativity to depict harsh events in a way that brings the same weight without crushing sensitive viewers. Desmond Doss' challenge was analogous to that of Christian filmmakers today: to enter the battlefield without shedding blood.

@cyborgchicken3502

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackmber I don't think you could make a War film without violence....War is most definitely a violent endeavour, even more violent than the films it's portrayed in...making a war movie where there's no gore or blood wouldn't be accurate...the beauty of Hacksaw Ridge is in fact it's violence....the fact that one man, in the midst of the violence and hatred of war, was still able to show kindness and love even for humans that were meant to be his enemies....since in real life Desmond Doss even saved a few Japanese soldiers

@probenfetchak8076

2 жыл бұрын

Truthfully there are good atheists and bad atheists it depends on the person but I do know that your beliefs isn’t what makes a good person a good person and a bad person a bad person

@blackmber

2 жыл бұрын

@Amy Thomasson I haven’t seen Passion of the Christ and I don’t watch war movies anymore either. I do read about horrific events in the Bible and it’s better because the images aren’t splashed in my face.

That actually seems like it would be a really compelling movie, a Christian who believes his sole journey is to "defeat" every atheist, using scripture wildly out of context as some have to their own destruction, and at the end finally gets that they're not as "holy" as they thought they were and as they are humbled, that's when they truly find God and peace

@jamescam04

4 жыл бұрын

That could make a very good story, if it were made by people who knew what they were doing. If that film were well-plotted, had good development of character, good production values, and was an all-round well-made, well-crafted piece of work (and therefore, avoided being heavy-handed), I would watch it.

@parodypaul

4 жыл бұрын

someone make this

@aaronprimus1300

4 жыл бұрын

@@parodypaul yes plz

@apolloandwarrior_3229

4 жыл бұрын

Well You've got an Atheist to help out with real and accurate depictions

@MonaLisaFace

4 жыл бұрын

That’s basically what happened to me in real life lol

Another thing which makes Christian fiction in movies bad, is that it is too blunt & in your face, whereas other kinds of religious fiction in film, such as Buddhism, etc., it is far more subtle. I.e., Buddhist fictional genres might use names for their particular characters, that have specific meanings or purposes within the Buddhist faith. That is exactly what 'Star Wars' did, for example.

I love how this video felt like an hour long, yet was only 15 minutes long. Amazing!

Lmao I told my mom my faith is wavering and then the next day she called me an anti-christ while my sister called me a demon. If that isn't traumatic then I don't know what is

@10pmmemes88

2 жыл бұрын

If you're traumatized by literal words, then it makes sense that you're ideologically confused. Weak constitution.

@frogfrog725

2 жыл бұрын

@@10pmmemes88 lmao what

@jimenahernandez9558

2 жыл бұрын

I would gladly give you advice as a fellow religious person, if your faith wavers don’t let go of it so quickly. I’m sorry about your mother, sister, and random comment condem you for being weak if the faith. It’s saddening that they can’t try to be more open and understanding. Being harsh on someone’s wavering faith brings one away from it. It’s okay for your faith to waver and question it but try to see the source of why you want to leave. I hope you are help to be guided in this hard time of being rejected. I know I’m just a comment but I pray that you be well.

@indiascarlett

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that is awful. I find that cultivating a relationship with God is the most important thing in faith. So many people have religious trauma from other humans using the Bible and Jesus as a battering ram against one another. It's not okay what your mom said and it's none of our place to judge so harshly. Faith wavers in everyone, it doesn't make you a demon or the antichrist. I will be praying for your mom to treat you better. Call out to God for answers in whatever you are questioning. I've been right where you are, and I hope you have a blessed day!

@blue1584

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awful, I’m so sorry that happened to you. And contrary to what the the first rude reply said... words _can_ in fact be traumatic, especially in the form of parents belittling or disparaging their children like that. Verbal abuse and emotional abuse are real and can be seriously damaging. It’s okay and perfectly normal to question your beliefs or have wavering faith. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, in fact I’d argue that it’s healthy to question these things and how you feel about it. I think that if you choose to practice a religion, it’s much healthier if it’s because you genuinely want to, not because you feel like you _have_ to, or because your family forces or shames you into it. So if you no longer have faith in a religion then that‘s perfectly fine, it’s up to you and they have no right to judge you for it. You can believe however much or however little you want to of any religion, it’s an entirely personal choice/personal philosophy

Veggie tales looms in the distance, a singular cucumber and tomato laugh at the rest of the pretenders to the throne

@ewptyewpewp

2 жыл бұрын

If you like to talk to tomatoes....

@coltonc8562

2 жыл бұрын

Weed eater 💯

@mmetruffle100

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a Christian and my daughter loves veggie tales. It's the best. If it manages to convert her then so be it

@subscribee9792

2 жыл бұрын

I loved veggie tales when I was a baby 🥒🍅ヽ(｡◕o◕｡)ﾉ.

@julietteainsie

2 жыл бұрын

@@subscribee9792 still love it now 🥲

I wasn't even a full minute into this video when I realized this would be a gem. Keep doing what you're doing, you're great at it! + 1 subscriber

I always had a idea for a Christian movie that's about a Christian family that is divided because one side or one family member found their own path as a Buddhist or some other religion. And a character from the Christian side of the family trys to convince the rest of the family that when Jesus said love thy neighbor and thy enemy that they aren't succeeding in what Jesus himself said. Netflix I'm accepting director roles

I see Christian films the same way I see Christian music: A. complete lack of meaningful substance B. doesn't tell you anything you don't already know C. generic and trope-ridden D. flat-out boring Keep in mind that this is coming from a Christian who isn't afraid to admit that Christian media is terrible.

@maria1606

2 жыл бұрын

Hey!! Actually, there's a lot of good Christian music that you should totally give it a look: Jonathan Odgen, Montell Fischl, Phillip Shibata, there's this channel on KZread called: Good Christian Music Blog and it is awesome! I find the popular gospel songs very cheesy, so this for you it will for sure be lovely. Here it is! kzread.info Enjoy!

@calebdonaldson8770

2 жыл бұрын

@@maria1606 Well thank you for the recommendations! I will be sure to check that out and hopefully it will be a refreshment to my ears. I do know a ton of classic Christian songs and hymns from all my years in sermon, bible study, church camp, etc. My personal favorite is One Tin Soldier.

@johnnydasuper

2 жыл бұрын

Listen to House of the Lord by Phil Wickham and Phenomena by Hillsong

@calebdonaldson8770

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnydasuper Sounds interesting. I will.

@johnnydasuper

2 жыл бұрын

@@calebdonaldson8770 they are bangers haha

I find that most explicitly "christian" films are too afraid to honestly deal with the complexities of people's sins because it can't be wrapped up in tidy moral at the end.

@Eforero83

2 жыл бұрын

This is interesting, thanks for sharing

@manzanito3652

2 жыл бұрын

Becaue if they actually thoughg or reflected on the complexities of the sins and the morals they teach, half of them wouldn't be Christians any more.

@alejandropreciado1814

2 жыл бұрын

@@manzanito3652 I disagree. a lot of them would probably have a stronger foundation in their belief. Christianity is quite cemented in reality and logic when it comes to the sins it wants it's believers to avoid. see Carl Jung or Nietzsche for proof on this.

@theresaortego2674

2 жыл бұрын

There are some more compelling and complex Christian Films. I always recommend starting with the Vatican Film List.

@allanbard6048

2 жыл бұрын

You want to see something? Track down "A Thief In The Night." Careful, it has a boatload of triggers. I was shown this at 13. Haven't felt safe since.

You can't be mad at a blind guy for walking into you, just like we can't be mad at atheists for walking in the wrong direction

Prince of Egypt Joseph: king of dreams Joyfull noise The sister act They don't make movies like these anymore.😢

Even I, as a Christian, cringe at how unsympathetic and unempathetic they portray non-believers in movies. They're struggling just like we are. And I don't think Christian movies should be squeaky-clean and feel-good. They should be willing to shock people, challenge even our own beliefs, and show the realistic, harsh realities of the world.

@montevids6167

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. I’m a Christian and want to be a filmmaker that actually can make an interesting and challenging film while still acknowledging the gospel.

@RecipeRepository

3 жыл бұрын

There's a clip in the video, a news anchor saying something like, "The real extremists we need to be on guard for are Christian extremists." It's trying to portray her as a terrible atheist or whatever... but that's actually a great plot for a Christian movie. Facing the real world and the fact that power can corrupt even the faithful; that those in power can abuse the word of God and through that abuse someone who believes they're enacting the righteousness of God can commit terrible sins. An atheist can live closer to the intent of Jesus' word than some Christians do. That disagreeing with religious leaders isn't blasphemy, it's a normal part of belief itself. It'd be amazing to see a Christian film wrestle with difficult ideas like that. Imagine seeing a Christian film that tackles head on the fact that the strongly religious are more likely to follow other propaganda, to embrace dangerous ideas. It doesn't do any good to bury your head in the sand. Art is a way to explore ideas, especially ones that make you uncomfortable. It's a shame that the true potential of the art form isn't being used.

@dragonk234

3 жыл бұрын

Watch silence

@cheddarurchin3844

3 жыл бұрын

they're probably are so worried about trying to convert people, that many of the media comes off kind of like a sales pitch

@NebulaBubbles

3 жыл бұрын

yeah. atheists are diffrent in real life and im ok with them.

The DOOM games are the perfect form of Christian media in my eyes.

@zerz4617

2 жыл бұрын

yes

@ataraxia1789

2 жыл бұрын

Based and red pilled.

@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985

2 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite fps games

@news_internationale2035

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Spear of Destiny.

@SeaSerpentLevi

2 жыл бұрын

Christianism at its peak hahaha Deliberately go to hell to kick demons ass yourself That reminds me of a mene of a firefighter who was a master at it, but was bad to everyone all his life. But it was his plan all along so he could do the ultimate firefighter quest: go to hell and extinguish the flames of hell lol

Very interesting perspectives. Appreciated.

Josh, I love this video. I'm not sure why it was gone for a few years, but I'm glad it's back! Think we'll see any more enneagram videos soon?

As an atheist, I don't hate God, and I don't believe he's dead. I don't believe in him, it's simple. I frequent church because of my family. We watched God's not dead in church and I got so uncomfortable seeing how they portrayed atheism.

@briannewton3535

3 жыл бұрын

You gotta listen to God Awful Movies by The Scathing Atheist on youtube or podcast, so funny as Christian movies are ripped apart.

@lanes7410

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, but the fact that God tells his followers to do what that do as if they are serving Him says a lot about how they serve him I don't personally know their relationship with God but still👀...

@Raztiana

3 жыл бұрын

It becomes obvious that they have never actually had a conversation with an atheist about atheism. They only have their non-founded ideas, where they clearly can't imagine anyone not believing in their god. Something like that quickly becomes uncomfortable.

@justasinnersavedbymercy

3 жыл бұрын

God is real though. He formed you. He knows you. You have to build a relationship with Him to know Him. Follow Him. Atheists might not hate God but they are not on the path to Heaven.

@Raztiana

3 жыл бұрын

@@justasinnersavedbymercy, threatening us with not going to heaven is like telling us we're not getting gifts from Santa this year. Just like we don't believe in your god, we also don't believe in heaven or hell. Your god is one of about 2500 gods in the world. There's nothing special about yours.

These atheists were depicted so badly that they're not even atheists anymore. That guy said that he hated God, which is not the case-we do not hate God, because we believe that God does not exist.

@floyddog2283

4 жыл бұрын

He was more anti theist than anything

@bp4freak

4 жыл бұрын

@@floyddog2283 Not even close to that. That guy is an angry Christian. An antitheist is an atheist who is actively against religion.

@wesxd5292

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr You cant hate something that doesn't exist

@ob2kenobi388

4 жыл бұрын

@@wesxd5292 In the same way, we don't love Satan because we believe that Satan doesn't exist

@TenyoS

3 жыл бұрын

I think that was the point. They want to believe that atheists aren't what we say we are. That we really believe, but are lying, either because we think we stand to gain something by lying, or because we're angry.

To be honest, “The Conjuring” restored my faith more than these movies.

You are the first person I have seen post this I noticed a long time ago but no one talks about it. Good for you

It's genuinely pleasant to see a Christian actually noticing that these films are blatant propaganda and the portrayal of atheists is ridiculous. Good video :)

@Wolfmasterpixel

6 жыл бұрын

Haven't seen most Christian films but Atheists are often extremely ridiculous

@TexasBoy13

6 жыл бұрын

SerMattzio, they the always make atheists seem like there satans son

@shaunclark425

6 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY - BUT AS A CHRISTIAN AND MARALYN MANSON FAN I DO GET SOME GRIEF......BUT (IF YOU HAVNT SEEN IT) I DO NOT RECOMEND YOU WATCH DOGMA AND GO STRAIT T OA PRAYER MEETING - IT WILL SCRAMBLE THE BRAIN....HOWEVER DO WATCH THE FILM AT SOME OTHER TIME - ITS A MASTERPIECE OF MADNESS...

@kueapel911

6 жыл бұрын

either christian or atheists, both sides are often filled with ridiculous people... why? Cause we're human, duh... not every human are some kind of bill gates nor jesus... ofc we're often extremely ridiculous. Just that the other side is kinda less suicidal than the counterpart... though I can't say the same with the 'other' religion whose name nor prophet shan't be named nor painted lest you get murdered...

@koendiepen7400

6 жыл бұрын

Most ppl are not ridiculous, they might act ridiculous sure but not all the time. Most ppl are just normal, they want to be safe, they want to be happy and they want to be free, No mater their worldview. That is what's wrong whit gods not dead. (appart from compleetly missing what Nietzsche was talking about). It's not framed by what we all have in common, it's framed by what makes us different. It's hateful and untruthfull, i would say it's not christian at all.

As a Christian, finding good Christian content is hard. All I can recommend is the Chosen, it's really good, but that's for you to decide.

@zacharysiple629

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't like that it wasn't Biblically based and I was bored, but it is pretty popular. My sister's Godfather recommended it.

@simoneangeliquemaloney3990

3 жыл бұрын

Then may I recommend an excellent Christian book called the Bible... By the way the Chosen is pretty cool

@noahmalcarne890

3 жыл бұрын

@@zacharysiple629 I mean I don’t know exactly what your talking about but the chosen is as bible based as you can get without them reading the versus straight out of the New Testament

@zacharysiple629

3 жыл бұрын

@@noahmalcarne890 Is it based on historical accounts or something? I admittedly enjoy The Last Temptation of Christ since it's a fascinating take on Jesus's human side, but other than that when people add stuff to Bible stories, it just gets boring and heretical. Take Noah, for instance. One person joins Noah's family when no one does. Rock monster- fallen angels help build the ark. The bonus person eats some of the animals. Noah doesn't want to save his neighbors, and that was part of the PURPOSE of the boat! Noah thinks that he is supposed to die in The Flood too, and that God only wants to save the animals. Then that Emma Watson having a baby on the ark thing is a whole other can of worms. The Chosen may not be like that, but I just couldn't get into it.

@noahmalcarne890

3 жыл бұрын

@@zacharysiple629 I am happy to report that it is not any where close to Noah

The Dr. Evil air quotes around "Christian persecution" at 11:49 is better editing and use of imagery than any Christian movie I've ever seen. 😂

I used to, also, wonder if the issue was the inadequate funding, low-budget, for the producuction of these Christian movies! I'm glad you discussed this in ur post! On the other hand, I know that Christians are very generous financially for the evangelism cause, (as well as for the charities!) They do mean well. My other theory was that there is a great pressure on the Directors to produce Evangelical movies that bring nonbelievers to the fold, 'to give nonbelievers a chance to hear the Gospel'! That, perhaps, the subtleness of the message was just not acceptable!? That the message needed to be 'shouted from the rooftops'! To justify the big money put into the production of the Christian movies!? I think too many Christians are so removed from the outside world that they lose touch on how the atheists and non-Christians think.. Especially, the ones that were born into the Christian families! 'Us-and-them mentality!' Yet, Christians, need to realize that they do Not have all the answers! And that being Subtle in the Christian - made movies is much more effective!

“Hey Scottie, Jesus man!” I forgot this existed 😂😂

@generalstaal7075

3 жыл бұрын

I think the Cinema Snob at Stoned Gremlin Productions did a video review on the movie where that came from. I definitely recommend it (the video, not the movie itself).

@Heliocentric

3 жыл бұрын

What movie was that from ??

@generalstaal7075

3 жыл бұрын

@@Heliocentric I think it's called Second Glance (1992)

@Heliocentric

3 жыл бұрын

@@generalstaal7075 thanks. I'll illegally download it tonight. Should be fun(ny).

@a.d4874

3 жыл бұрын

i actually want to watch it😂

when the guy from gods not dead said “i hate god”, i immediately got super pissed as an atheist because how many times do we have to tell you we don’t hate god we don’t even think he exists. That shit turns us away more than anything. Understand us if you want to make any ground with us Edit: So many people have agreed with me, and i’m happy for it, but i would like to thank believers who understand and support us the most. You are promoting honest intellectual discourse and i thank you.

@SinclairGarcia

4 жыл бұрын

Your right man

@seijin4426

4 жыл бұрын

An anti-theist?

@orangeanarchy235

4 жыл бұрын

No I am not an anti theist. You can believe whatever nonsense you want, as long as you don’t disrespect our lack of belief. Leave me alone, and i leave you alone

@leahmaier1272

4 жыл бұрын

As an atheist, I agree with you. It doesn't piss me off necessarily, but it's just a shame how people and movies see and portray us as that.

@mirage_panzer2274

4 жыл бұрын

i still wonder.. if an atheist is a non believer or people believe god isnt exist 🤔

Just happened across this and totally agree with what you said. I was stunned when they had the professor in "God's Not Dead" grabbed the kid. That's grounds for harassment. Then the kid doesn't even report it? One of my biggest gripes with Christian movies is how unnatural people are and the dialogue is so horrendous. Who would ever say to their professor what this guy does at the end? And then every single person in the class stands up? Eesh! A good example of the difference in quality is the movies Left Behind. I didn't know the order of these movies so I watched the Nicholas Cage one first and then the Kirk Cameron one. It was such a huge difference that it was like comparing the art of a high schooler to one of a preschooler. God demands the best from us, how can anyone be proud of most of these "films?"

I agree with everything you said expect for the “wasnt Jesus against the us or them mentality?”. No, he wasn’t. He claimed that he was the door and the only path to God. He also said in Matthew 12 (and I think mark 2 (?) aswell) “whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters”

As a Christian, it's legitimately refreshing to see you calling out just how bad the vast majority of Christian movies are. These people want so desperately to spread a message, but they somehow fail to realize that when the message is communicated so poorly and in such a shallow manner (especially with their insulting demonization of atheists), the message fails to land in any meaningful capacity. Also I highly recommend the Miracle Maker, a beautiful stop-motion animated film about the story of Christ that is easily one of the best Christian films I've ever seen. It's surprisingly bursting with creativity, and it has one of the best depictions of Jesus I've seen in a while.

@aaromotivestudio3869

4 жыл бұрын

YESS YESSSS YEEEESSSSSS! Miracle Maker is probably the best depiction of the life of Jesus that I’ve ever seen.

@elsakristina2689

4 жыл бұрын

I love that movie!

@jameswest6232

4 жыл бұрын

A good book or film: tells you a story - Propaganda: Beats you over the head with one

@canguian

4 жыл бұрын

I was working in a research institute surrounded by scientist they were spiritual beings but not Christian. They are seeking God but through deep insight, self reflection and meditation. But they can't just believe in Christ because a book says so, they want to find God but through mathematics, really they are spiritual in the sense that meaning in life, and believe it or not, they are very decent, is really stupid believing because you are not Christian you are full of hate and inmoral ...surprising the most hateful people weren't the scientist but Christians

@kalinora3901

4 жыл бұрын

@Musically Talented How better to do that than by studying nature and what it's made of? You don't have to have some religious or spiritual title such as "Christian" to acknowledge God.

lets just say the execution of these movies is a lot like the execution of jesus, unsuccessful

@Bluecolty

5 жыл бұрын

That's genius on multiple levels

@vgsdomingo1

4 жыл бұрын

@Caden Serrador His execution was successful or He could not have died for your sins and risen from the dead. Who cares? It's all myths anyway.

@cadenserrador8276

4 жыл бұрын

@@vgsdomingo1 you must be real fun at parties

@vgsdomingo1

4 жыл бұрын

@@cadenserrador8276 Not as bad as you are at at cracking jokes on KZread comment threads. You gotta admit that you really dropped the ball there.

@cadenserrador8276

4 жыл бұрын

@@vgsdomingo1 so your comeback consists of you saying that my jokes are bad, classic

Good video brother! May God bless and keep you!!!

7:15 The best way to reach out to a large audience is to respect them and understand their struggles through art and take time, not shoving it down your throat and expect everything to come to plan.

Ok but i do think prince of Egypt is pretty sick

@legomaniacsss

5 жыл бұрын

It slaps to an extreme degree

@classicjbear8409

5 жыл бұрын

I love that the non Christian studio that is DreamWorks put out the best Christian movie ever made. Pureflix, step it up.

@judithvanderlee9919

5 жыл бұрын

Trueee omg

@regilad_9043

5 жыл бұрын

Thats cause prince of egypt isnt propeganda, its not even really about god despite being a story from the bible

@maxmillianwiegel1643

5 жыл бұрын

It is. But that’s because it’s not “really” a Christian film. There’s a really good review on KZread that explains it.

The problem with the majority of Christian films is the lack of reality. Most of them are dark and lifeless. Pretty soon I will show everyone how it should be done. Just hold on!

@onerandombruh

3 жыл бұрын

Please keep us posted. I'm not bullshiting, by the way.

@octoberviberations233

3 жыл бұрын

@different pov dark as in either vague or empty

@octoberviberations233

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah indeed! I feel like soon it will be time to tell Christian films with depth and a lot of love

@FactStorm

3 жыл бұрын

The whole cult lacks reality, so what do you expect? Lmao..if the source is flawed, you expect subsequent productions to be valid & truthful? What a joke.

@annetan5038

3 жыл бұрын

yess!! cheering for you

Your video on Christian music is gone, but I've been thinking about it for a long time, because the moment you mention from the Newsboys God's Not Dead tour is literally the exact reason, the precise moment, I left Christianity. There were a lot of things leading up to it, but that was the breaking point. I could tell you the exact date. It was a show in Centerville Ohio on May 10 2013.

"Silence" is an amazing Christian movie about Jesuit priests going to Japan.

There is nothing more painful than knowing my mother watches Christian movies and Hallmark Channel movies unironically.

@experiment248isgr8t

5 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah everything on Hallmark is wholesome. I witnessed the channel myself. It's okay.

@nationalgiographic9186

5 жыл бұрын

My Mom Watches Hallmark Hallmark isnt bad

@PlaneBoy2520

5 жыл бұрын

Zed bruh hallmark movies are the best, especially around Christmas time, you can always guess what’s going to happen next since they are so predictable 😂

@stillikeike1086

5 жыл бұрын

Is she okay? Should we send help?

@mylesgxtreme2106

5 жыл бұрын

Mine two

“The purpose of a storyteller is not to tell you how to think, but to give you questions to think upon.” ― Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings

I have friends who have done time in prison that are the nicest people ever and people I’ve known at churches that have never so much as hurt a fly are some of the most toxic people I’ve met

The quote from Bambi I never interpreted it as “don’t use constructive criticism.” I think it simply means, “don’t say mean things just because you can”. Sure, constructive criticism is necessary, but i don’t think that’s what the quote is referring to. It’s just don’t be needlessly mean.

"There are more good Christian songs than there are good Christian movies." I agree, but only because there are so many more Christian songs out there. Being Christian doesn't mean we have to accept poorly done creative work as masterpieces just because the subject is pro-Christianity.

@tombingham7455

3 жыл бұрын

Page

@zenokiller2420

3 жыл бұрын

but christian songs suck

@justsomeplantcells-

3 жыл бұрын

@@zenokiller2420 some of them are actually good. Some.

@enbyrogue3740

3 жыл бұрын

@@zenokiller2420 Eh, gospel songs suck ass but there's been a few good Christian songs. I point to the Awake album by Skillet. It was an entire album of christian songs, but they're all about the lead singer's personal religious journey so they don't come off preachy and there are some bops in there - Sincerely, an atheist

@themaskedtalker2171

3 жыл бұрын

@@enbyrogue3740 I have that album! I got it for Christmas years ago. Definitely my favorite

I'm still mad that people are so uneducated about what Nietzche actually meant by "God is dead". If anything, it was part of a mournful reflection on modern attitudes toward religious faith and the causes behind them.

@megelizabeth9492

3 жыл бұрын

Basically what he was saying was how the scientific and philosophical revolutions of the enlightenment, created a new understanding and conceptualization of the natural world based on human reason and empirical observation, rather then coming from divine agency or power.

@user-ib1dx4dh3n

3 жыл бұрын

@@megelizabeth9492 which should be in my opinion fully transitioned

@louis8487

2 жыл бұрын

All I know of Nietzche was a funny punchline in the show Lucifer. Lucifer: *mimicking the words of someone else back to them* "The trial of my dad's killer." Lucifer: "Nietzche!?"

@phyokyawkhaing2251

2 жыл бұрын

@@megelizabeth9492 Yes, he also argued that that was a bad thing as the iconic phrase "God is dead" was actually said sorrowfully instead the gleeful portrayal by the media.

@cadenflynn1587

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ib1dx4dh3n a poor opinion

6:25 as a 13 year old aspiring filmmaker I am honored.

That first clip of Inglorious Bastards got me watching this full, good to see people appreciate the good stuff

“Hey Scotty, Jesus man.” I have no clue why, but this is just so goddam funny…

@masbucket3083

2 жыл бұрын

Idk it’s just funny

@louiseleite3866

2 жыл бұрын

Next time use your mother's name + dam.

@sudeepjoseph69

2 жыл бұрын

Louise or he could say it's so hitlerdam funny

@thepylonperspective

2 жыл бұрын

@@louiseleite3866 Alright, I got you, it’s pretty Joan of Arc-damn funny

@andrewtodaro2874

2 жыл бұрын

You’d expect to see some sitcom end credits at the freeze frame!

As a non religious person, the Prince of egypt is one of my favourite animated films.

@nou3188

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and when I watched veggietales I didn't even realize it was religious until much later

@fos9698

5 жыл бұрын

It relied on story and art and put the moral message aside if favor of the former. That's the important part. I believe Jesus told parables for a reason, and not to give Christians a reason to justify story. But because story as an art form will always organize the chaos around us and point to a truth of some kind. There's a reason there's only half a dozen forms of story, I mean, *good* story. Because those stories are telling the history of the world from beginning to end, organizing a long line of random events and weaving them together to show us the bigger picture. Story perfected, without agenda, will always have a more powerful message of truth than any sermon composed into a movie.

@someguy2594

5 жыл бұрын

Sheev Palpatine same, you don’t have to be religious to learn about religion.

@ThatOneGuy_James

5 жыл бұрын

I thought you believed in the Sith religion

@gringerandom5872

5 жыл бұрын

Wait what is that a christian movie? I LOVE it evrn if i'm a non christian...

I wanna see more movies with the opposite plots. People finally finding freedom from leaving their faith behind like I and many others did.

@zacharysiple629

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWtoj8htirmTo9Y.html Here's a 130 minute one- Letting Go Of God. It's a one act show of an actress talking about going from Catholicism to atheism.

@cocinacondasa9395

11 ай бұрын

i rebuke you in the name of jesus

@LFDLittlefluffydino

7 ай бұрын

​@@cocinacondasa9395Amen!

@Rikken552

7 ай бұрын

Except that's entirely disingenuous, that's like claiming I'm oppressed for being Christian. Do you think I'm oppressed?

@mememologies7363

7 ай бұрын

@@Rikken552Christians are oppressed in certain parts of the world, but the western world is not where they are oppressed. Stop making shit about YOU.

Nice commentary! I'm a Christian filmmaker, though my last feature was over ten years ago. Since then, I've come to many of the same conclusions and am bound and determined to make sure my next one (shooting next summer) doesn't fall into the same cliches. I want less pluck and more realism.

The movie God's not dead saying christians are the kindest people on earth is equivalent to peta saying they're animal lovers

@Anthracite_coal

4 жыл бұрын

I can't even called them Christians, it's more like a mob screeching about who's on the moral high ground

@dr2d2

3 жыл бұрын

Peta animal lovers wait you're serious let me laugh even harder

@MadMcNair

3 жыл бұрын

So true if Christians are kind people why hate on gay people I saw a hate crime on my favorite channel a year ago that talks about past crimes from the past 2 male killers and they are brothers broke into the house own by a gay couple and broke into the bed room where they were sleeping and killed the poor male couple with a pistol I think it’s been a year sense I watch it

@MadMcNair

3 жыл бұрын

Dimetri Drossos well why do Christians threaten gay people and why did the brothers kill them if they didn’t hate them that makes no sense

@MadMcNair

3 жыл бұрын

Dimetri Drossos umm ok boomer

As a Christian I honestly never liked Christian movies because almost all to them portray atheists as jerks and I have tons of friends who are atheist and respect my beliefs.

@Sora-ud6dp

5 жыл бұрын

omg YES. Ugh... everything just paints TRUE Christianity in a horrible light.

@kaitlynkarol4600

5 жыл бұрын

- Ditto! I have had more empathy & support/ love from atheists and agnostics at many times of my life vs my own Christian counterparts. I love this video b/c he's saying the exact same things I am always saying about this topic. Christian movies are mostly bad b/c their 'filmmakers' are not artists. If you want to preach, just make movies for your church like they do plays in church for their own congregation. Movies are supposed to be a medium for the public so if you 'go there' you should respect that and find BALANCE in both your art & your spirituality. Also - most of the 'new' atheists that tend to be far Leftists on the lunatic fringe of liberalism - are just as bad/ immature and unevolved as the Christian fundamentalists - b/c fundamentalism is fundamentalism despite where it comes from. And liberalism is also about having too much freedom when you abuse it and Christians - though thought of as conservatives - are really liberals when they're fringey-fundamentalists b/c they take their liberty of expressing their faith so far that they act superior & judgemental - same thing far L is doing w/ their hardcore relgious new-age obsession too. When you act 'religious' about your spirituality, you miss the boat - even fall out of it. Both extreme groups of fringe-thinking one-dimensional people w/ the 'us' v 'them' attitude are so full of PC and are easily triggered at anything you say so it's hard to criticize these people and their movies -whether it's the Hwood hard L & how they constantly preach about witchcraft to us in almost every film (from Disney's 'magic' Harry Potter types to adult fare) or the Christian preachy far R. There are not many true filmmakers left in this world -art is being destroyed as they 'tell' us instead of 'show' us. No form, no design, no sophisticated purpose, no depth. A little fact most ppl don't know or get: Jesus was a centrist who tried to teach us balance who was the greatests artist of all time - he made us, he created the world - and he showed us form, design, depth, a sophisticated purpose and total truth. And - the ONLY way to complete, whole 'total' truth is through balance - not through extreme fringe thinking. Balance cannot exist when there are too many hipsters and cliques - in churches, on the theater screen - all over the place - and this is what is destroying culture. There are two kinds of separation - right and wrong. We need to separate ('rightfully divide') v. be a part of the hive-mind (WRONG division through Marxist-collectivism).When we rightfully separate the person from their behavior and the artist from the preacher, this is where the artist's journey begins, but this takes time and patience and most are too busy chasing their next text msg on their high-radiation cell phones to have the slightest interest in that!

@anhhuynhkimnguyen6793

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t care much for religions but if someone follows it , I’ll respect them and move on,

@joshguest1104

5 жыл бұрын

Which it is. Its also an outdatted bigotry cicle jerk of an organization, only existing to brainwash the population

@TfwNoGiantGF

5 жыл бұрын

@2012endofanerror Or don't get offended by it?

You exposed the scapegoating embedded in Christian movies and culture (booing atheists). Thanks for pointing this out. The world is full of pain, Jesus' followers should be bringing love and healing, not judgment and condemnation. Thanks for your content!

I enjoyed watching this video. I agree with many of your points, and I think your editing skills are amazing! I have been working recently on content creation. I think you are a talented and creative person. I love that you are using the talent and skills you have to make both share your points, and share your faith.

I am a Christian and this is the exact reason I am studying film. I’ve noticed a disconnect between the message and the quality. I want to portray my perspective of the Bible in an authentic, high quality story that is meant to move you while also being realistic.

@kobushauman3310

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow. Check out Ruben Uitenweerde. He is my cousin. Also studying film. You may find his KZread interesting (I hope). God luck to you. Edit I wanted to write Good luck but I'll just keep that for now. It seems appropriate.

@annalisemininger8166

3 жыл бұрын

@@kobushauman3310 Thanks so much I’ll have to check it out!

@Chris-bw9ji

3 жыл бұрын

As someone who’s interested in a high-quality portrayal of the Bible, will you be including the many darker passages too, or will you only cover the picture-perfect sections that jive with what you want to believe in?

@annalisemininger8166

3 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-bw9ji That’s one of the biggest issues I have found with Christian movies: they are sugar coated. People don’t want that. I for one want to focus on the real side of being a Christian. Also as someone with anxiety and bipolar disorder I think we do a poor job of talking about mental health in the church. That is one of the main things I want to focus on as a filmmaker. But yes, I agree that ALL parts of the Bible are directly from God and therefore no parts should be glossed over.

@feebee6810

3 жыл бұрын

I'm also an aspiring writer director and I also wanted to make films portraying the bible in a realistic and symbolic way but then I became an atheist lol but hopefully you succeed and show the world an interesting portrayal of religion

What Christian art used to be: Bach's St. Matthew Passion, Paradise Lost, the Sistine Chapel, The Brothers Karamazov, Tarkovsky's Andrei Rublev What Christian art is now: God's Not Dead and Left Behind

@thomaskole9881

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah consumerism and religion don't really mix that well

@GuadalupePicasso

2 жыл бұрын

The Brothers Karamazov is my favorite book of all time❤

@niconiconichan2098

2 жыл бұрын

The Brothers Karamazov was really good.

@GuadalupePicasso

2 жыл бұрын

@@niconiconichan2098 I’m reading it right now, for at least my 3rd time.

@maztergamer1016

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the seventh seal while it is a very religious movie it is very well made and doesn't treat christianity simplistically like some movies do.

Agree. Many Christian movies I watched also had very cheesy dialog or seemed afraid to be brutally honest. Also I feel too many Christian movies are either a Bible story come to life or about someone who needs to find God and gets saved. What I would like to see are more movies where it's the Christian who struggles with personal struggles related to Christianity or exposes corruption with a Christian viewpoint, sort of like what Sound of Freedom did. If I had the talent of a film maker or director I would be trying to create movies such as: A Christian young man dealing with sexual temptation over and over. Except he's not interested in dirty magazines or websites. Instead, many women, even Christian women from all walks of life keep showing interest in him and making his life difficult, while he waits and searches for the right Christian woman. It can be implied that the devil is doing all this on purpose. A girl dealing with abuse from an extremely strict Independent Fundamentalist Baptist family and church, who believes all other Christians are wicked and they go overboard in trying to protect her from the world. She's tempted to give up on Christianity. And she meets a man she eventually dates and marries who is a serious Christian but not insane like her family is. A young man who leans Baptist who often gets into arguments with his strict Pentecostal family. A Christian band who struggles to be relevant and often is tempted to compromise or risk offending people for what they believe. Possibly a comedy style movie showing how silly the extreme Pentecostals and Charismatics look, somewhat mocking them? Basically I feel we need more Christian life stories. And they would have great writing, acting and cinematography. Would there be an audience for these kinds of movies?