Why Certain DROID Tactics were so RARE to see on a Battlefield

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  • @geetslys
    @geetslys3 жыл бұрын

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  • @ayaskantmahapatra2487

    @ayaskantmahapatra2487

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi sir. I am a big fan. Can you make a video explaining the absence of systems like orbital protection guns (eg : Halo 2 orbital mac canons)? Ships easily enter and leave the planets in Star Wars universe. So I was wondering about it.

  • @Spartan3D213

    @Spartan3D213

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ayaskantmahapatra2487 I think shields help with that, same with how a ship that doesn't look aerodynamic like yt1300 and have it travel in fast speeds.

  • @Shist444

    @Shist444

    3 жыл бұрын

    you're making the empire sound bad with the beginning of the ad

  • @mirceazaharia2094

    @mirceazaharia2094

    2 жыл бұрын

    1:09 Almost all of those shows or movies are trash. I just wanted you to know that. But thanks for the video.

  • @Shist444

    @Shist444

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mirceazaharia2094 The 1st season suchs for rebels and clone wars, but past that is where you're wrong, and the original saga and prequels are some of the best kids movies ever.

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher3 жыл бұрын

    A rare droid tactic: Surrendering

  • @Chloethemarxenjoyer

    @Chloethemarxenjoyer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @geetslys

    @geetslys

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean, they're expendable.

  • @EmeraldLegate_

    @EmeraldLegate_

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never surrender to republic dogs!

  • @crackingly

    @crackingly

    3 жыл бұрын

    The French should take notes.

  • @greemander4009

    @greemander4009

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mainly used by tactical droids. Worst part is that the clone troopers are usually gonna shoot you anyway.

  • @Chloethemarxenjoyer
    @Chloethemarxenjoyer3 жыл бұрын

    I did forget about sniper droidekas, they're really underused

  • @the_restitutor_orbis

    @the_restitutor_orbis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm…droidekas are ambush units. Best used on ships or other close quarters situations where mass firepower, rather than accurate single shots would have made more tactical sense. A droideka sniper on a battlefield would have been spotted a mile away and could only be used in very specific situations.

  • @1purehavoc

    @1purehavoc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didnt even know that was a thing. Sounds odd

  • @1purehavoc

    @1purehavoc

    3 жыл бұрын

    To me drodika are more of a shock trooper. Basically a humv with a machine gun if you compare it to modern warfare vehicle. I mean i guess I guess you could use it as a gauss platform but its quick and armored. It can get in quick lay down fire like a droidika. Also has protection. Idk the argument could be used for long range weapons i guess.

  • @michaelandreipalon359

    @michaelandreipalon359

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too... didn't know this was actually a thing.

  • @CollinMcLean

    @CollinMcLean

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@1purehavoc I wouldn't class them as a shock troop, they're more like mobile turrets since you can't move them very quickly once they start firing.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones43213 жыл бұрын

    Droid: Says anything Grievous: And I took it personally

  • @ifeeldeadinsideD2

    @ifeeldeadinsideD2

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love grievous

  • @onemariobro

    @onemariobro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grevious actually despised B1 battle droids because they lacked the warrior spirit that’s why he has the magna guards as wel

  • @marcushansen2807

    @marcushansen2807

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lonely Grievous😭

  • @cjclark2002
    @cjclark20023 жыл бұрын

    Short answer, Papa Palps limiting aspects of the droid army of course, as planned. If the full might of the CIS was allowed operational freedom they would of steam rolled the GAR.

  • @VisonsofFalseTruths

    @VisonsofFalseTruths

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bingo. The CIS was, quite simply, superior in terms of numbers and firepower. Other valid logic aside, the entire war was a play by Palpatine to assume total control of the Republic, destroy the Jedi and form the Empire. He needed a Republic left to control, so he would have had his servants stop using strategies that worked too effectively. The war was a show, and the CIS was always a sacrificial lamb.

  • @ironhorsehistorian9871

    @ironhorsehistorian9871

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also the ot exists

  • @battlesheep2552

    @battlesheep2552

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, his main plan was to make a war so horrible that the Senate would gladly cede their power to him to ensure it would never happen again. He could have used the Droid army to just steamroll the Republic, which only had an army to defend itself BECAUSE of the secret deals he and Dooku made, but he wanted it to be nice and legal so it would be easier to get the galaxy to cooperate with his regime. Though I suspect he kept Droid steamroll as plan B.

  • @superdave8248

    @superdave8248

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of the separatist was the Banking Guild (which makes you wonder where the Republic got its money for the war). And with any bank you have a bean counter looking at the return of investments. Realistically, the more effective droids would also be more expensive. And if you look at the return of investment, these more effective droids would have a lesser return because they were used primarily as security for high profile locations. To a bean counter if you can say this model of droid has killed 5000 clones and 4 jedi and this model has killed 2 clones ... you are probably going to suggest that former model is what you are going to want to spend your money on.

  • @ironhorsehistorian9871

    @ironhorsehistorian9871

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@superdave8248 banking clan not guild

  • @lordMartiya
    @lordMartiya3 жыл бұрын

    "And since Jedi liked to fight from the frontlines, there were much easier ways to take them out, such as ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT". The scary thing is that it's not that much overkill...

  • @boooster101

    @boooster101

    2 жыл бұрын

    The republic had about 3 million member planets. And there were about 10000 jedi. So yeah, any means to kill a Jedi is justified.

  • @TwiceStruck

    @TwiceStruck

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@boooster101 10,000 Jedis for about 50 Odd Siths across the Galaxy, and you wonder Why Anakin Brought Balance to The Force.

  • @boooster101

    @boooster101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TwiceStruck wonder how the RULING COUNCIL of the Jedi on the CENTRAL WORLD thought that a prophecy of a chosen one bringing BALANCE when talking about a presumedly EXTINCT enemy is a good thing....

  • @Furonanator139

    @Furonanator139

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised the CIS never developed more precise ship blasters for this purpose I know they don't care about civilian casualties but it'd be more affective with the risk of blowing the whole battle field and some of your own troops p.

  • @lordMartiya

    @lordMartiya

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Furonanator139 They already had them, it was the gunners that were B1s. That, and their troops on the ground were usually droids.

  • @obi-wan-kenobi2393
    @obi-wan-kenobi23933 жыл бұрын

    We need to build on more droid characters, like they did with Clones

  • @geetslys

    @geetslys

    3 жыл бұрын

    The one in Solo had some potential!

  • @Hiihtopipa

    @Hiihtopipa

    3 жыл бұрын

    General Kenobi!

  • @blackhawk3975

    @blackhawk3975

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@geetslys what? The Karen droid with a revolutionary complex? The one who reportedly had sex with Lando? Do we really want more like her? Solo was a crap movie anyway.

  • @munafiqwill3932

    @munafiqwill3932

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blackhawk3975 Solo was a good movie, just poor execution.

  • @blackhawk3975

    @blackhawk3975

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@munafiqwill3932 at least you enjoyed it, that's all I can say.

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan71003 жыл бұрын

    I'm afraid I'm boring to make a suggestion, but you could make a video of the longest-lived sentient species in the galaxy.

  • @obi-wan-kenobi2393

    @obi-wan-kenobi2393

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good idea

  • @G59forlife.

    @G59forlife.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@obi-wan-kenobi2393 I agree

  • @Obiwan7100

    @Obiwan7100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @troy Ferrington Obi Wan:Clone Saga

  • @pricex3

    @pricex3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh GENERAL KENOBI

  • @austinwnek2879

    @austinwnek2879

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pricex3 this is getting out of hand now there is 3 of them

  • @42meep13
    @42meep133 жыл бұрын

    I feel another reason theater shields weren't used much is I'm sure those things require a MASSIVE amount of power.

  • @sammyal1352
    @sammyal13523 жыл бұрын

    3:35 Magnaguards with shield generators might honestly be one of the scariest things in SW...

  • @gabrielhenson5751

    @gabrielhenson5751

    2 жыл бұрын

    they are made to be able to stop lightsabers with their weapon, but they can't really counter ranged attacks, so if you gave them a shield to block blaster fire and they still have whatever the things they hold are called to stop lightsabers they may have been nearly unstoppable.

  • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

    @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gabrielhenson5751 at least from in front.

  • @djcuevas1057

    @djcuevas1057

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly if they just had the mandalorian wrist shields that would be good enough.

  • @clonecoric4140
    @clonecoric41403 жыл бұрын

    Separatist generals trying to figure out how the Wall of death strategy which is easily vulnerable to mines, orbital bombardments, flanking, bombing runs, guerilla tactics, surprise attacks and high ground attacks didn't succeed: How could we have missed this.

  • @michaelandreipalon359

    @michaelandreipalon359

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hehe, I remember using flashbang-armed American Rangers against GLA Angry Mobs in Command & Conquer: Generals. Good times.

  • @michaelandreipalon359

    @michaelandreipalon359

    3 жыл бұрын

    However, the success of that depended on the absence of GLA vehicles and, of course, their dreaded hero sniper Jarmen Kell.

  • @matthiuskoenig3378

    @matthiuskoenig3378

    3 жыл бұрын

    it being vulnerable to bombing runs is laughable, wall of death is also wall of death to air units, guerilla tactics don't work against it either, neither do surprise attacks or high ground attacks. literally, the only thing shown to be effective is faceing it down head on, and even then the clones take heavy casualties.

  • @clonecoric4140

    @clonecoric4140

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matthiuskoenig3378 mines? The wall of death also didn't seem to bring much death to the Clone pilots at Malastare, or on Onderon only did reinforcement gunships take them out. And a surprise attack did take out a Wall of death march on Onderon to.

  • @FalconWindblader

    @FalconWindblader

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@matthiuskoenig3378 Please. The wall of death wouldn't be able to jack shit to air units unless said units are stupid enough to fly slow & low. As for surprise attacks, it just a matter how heavily armed the forces deployed are. & Finally, high ground attacks are guaranteed to work wonderfully, unless said high ground forces are stupid enough to do cavalry charges at the droids, instead of raining down fire with big guns.

  • @CollinMcLean
    @CollinMcLean3 жыл бұрын

    They learned tactics from Zapp Brannigan's big book of war... Just keep sending wave after wave of your own troops until the enemy just stops moving... minus doing it in velour...

  • @kevincloud574

    @kevincloud574

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony47993 жыл бұрын

    Even the weakness of the Wall of Death strategy can be useful: "Send more droids against the Jedi Knight! Their bodies are making a pile so high that he will never be able to cross it!" -Sentepeth Findos, during the Battle of Cato Neimoidia

  • @lordwarlockthangwrath8662
    @lordwarlockthangwrath86623 жыл бұрын

    You call that the wall of death? *points* *at* *Imperial* *Guard* Meet the WALL OF GUNS!

  • @tomaskops7119

    @tomaskops7119

    3 жыл бұрын

    Send wall made of Death Korps of Krieg :)

  • @akumaking1

    @akumaking1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Armed with T-shirts, flashlights, and brass balls.

  • @alexanderthegreat6682

    @alexanderthegreat6682

    3 жыл бұрын

    The planet broke before the Guard did!

  • @tomaskops7119

    @tomaskops7119

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexanderthegreat6682 We never forget Cadia!

  • @alexanderthegreat6682

    @alexanderthegreat6682

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tomaskops7119 CADIA STANDS

  • @chancelorhiggins-gloor6999
    @chancelorhiggins-gloor69993 жыл бұрын

    I would argue sniper's would have been much more effective for the CIS. The amount of clone commanders and officers we see especially those on the battlefield gives the snipers a whole scope of targets to choose from. You can program a tactical or even a commando droid in a short amount of time while a Clone commanders or officer takes years to be trained. Sure it could be countered by Clone officers getting stronger armor to protect themselves but the droids could simply increase the power of the rifle.

  • @ryanvasquez2914

    @ryanvasquez2914

    2 жыл бұрын

    We can thank Palpatine for that

  • @FalconWindblader

    @FalconWindblader

    2 жыл бұрын

    The thing is that the clones have gotten so cohesive that they could still put up a good fight without a commander being around. While some clones do fare better at leadership than the others, the stuff that made them so good at doing so are picked up in the field, instead of being learned back in Kamino. With that said, having one commander down pretty much only means having another take his place in a matter of days.

  • @Furonanator139

    @Furonanator139

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes plus there is a big difference between the two armies, the clones love each other. Not to say the droids were incapable of comradery but the CIS programmed them to be as restricted in sentience as possible while still performing their role so a downed commander would just have the next in line step in like it was nothing. With the clones though most of them look at each other as brothers and seeing them fall especially the best among them will wear down their spirit. Heck that was the design of the war anyway, to wear down the spirits of the Jedi and the galaxy

  • @ravager7217
    @ravager72173 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the Dwarf Spider Droids were also underutilized. Mobile artillery platforms seem like a handy thing to have around, if you ask me.

  • @greemander4009

    @greemander4009

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and don't forget about their older brother. We saw that thing in like three battles.

  • @Iceflkn
    @Iceflkn2 жыл бұрын

    I feel these terrible tactics with bad decisions was more of how Palpatine engineered circumstances. He manipulated the banking clans in ways to restrict available funds to ensure the CIS would never win. His many other influences worked along side this.

  • @JoaoPedro-ol7sl
    @JoaoPedro-ol7sl3 жыл бұрын

    About the droidekas shields, the shield makes them move slower so magma guards and commando droids would lose their speed, which is one of the biggest advantage of the commando droids.

  • @CrusadingJello
    @CrusadingJello3 жыл бұрын

    I swear, some people in Star Wars Clone Wars, had godlike plot armor. Like... A ship being blown up, a single pod escaping, and the enemy focus-firing on that pod... BUT IT ESCAPES??? HUH???

  • @barnowl2655

    @barnowl2655

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, that battledroid wasn't a very good shot.

  • @blakeetter280
    @blakeetter2803 жыл бұрын

    the wall of death had another perk thats less obvious, its scary as fuck. not like droids are scary themselves, especially to clones, but the wall of death is a parade style march relatively slow of droids, who canonically explode upon death too (really hard to animate so they dont bother in the movies or shows) which means killing one could take out his neighbors too. yet they did it anyways despite it being about the highest loss deployment method possible. thats because the clones knew it was wasteful and thus knew the CIS could afford to waste droids where the GAR was usually short on men. In season six of clone wars we see a whole battalion is like thirty clones, fifty max, apperantly. or at least three jedi wanted to capture a giant planet sized facility with that few clones (Anakin gives reinforcements to compensate heavy losses to another general. those reinforcements are ten clones only. they got by with few men apparently). So imagine you have a hundred men and you see the enemy slowly marching their thousands at you in an obviously exposed position they must know will cost them many many droids, what would be going through an average clones head? probably "i have a bad feeling about this" or some kind of hopeless fear. either way its demoralizing to the any army to know their adversary can throw away troops like that

  • @Dantick09
    @Dantick092 жыл бұрын

    Droidekas would have been great to flank the enemy engaged with the wall of death, then roll away and reposition. Adding flat "shoes" to let them stand on soft ground

  • @nobleman9393
    @nobleman93933 жыл бұрын

    Handheld Energy Shields would be only good against unsupported infantry that doesn't have any heavy weapons(Rocket Launchers, heavy blasters, mortars)

  • @CollinMcLean

    @CollinMcLean

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is an excellent point. And EMP style of weapons that would be deployed against droids would probably have a similar effect on the shields, rendering them moot.

  • @matthiuskoenig3378

    @matthiuskoenig3378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CollinMcLean not really, they have to use the force to roll the weapons past the shields first (as shown in the series) which can only be done in the immediate facility of the jedi. and the clones are shown to lack rocket launchers, heavy blasters and mortars, them being as rare as the CIS stuff in this video

  • @CollinMcLean

    @CollinMcLean

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@matthiuskoenig3378 While force rolling anti droid weapons like poppers can ease the task it's not necessary. As long as you can roll it slowly it'll pass through the shields. And a slow roll is even less necessary for hand held shields.

  • @miniaturejayhawk8702

    @miniaturejayhawk8702

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tell that to the covenant

  • @slytester1723
    @slytester17233 жыл бұрын

    Where the droideka couldn’t go the Drawf spider droid and crab droid could and those two were pretty deadly just imagine a shield drawf or crab droid

  • @kristianyoung990
    @kristianyoung9903 жыл бұрын

    I actually have a Magna Guard enforcer in a Star Wars FFG game with an energy shield that it acquired from a disabled Droideka.

  • @aidancastette5712
    @aidancastette57122 жыл бұрын

    I have always wondered why the separatist did not have vulture droids fly strait into the bridge of clone ships.

  • @krzosu
    @krzosu3 жыл бұрын

    mobile dedicated shield droids would make a lot of sense - say like the spider droids variants - but with a shield gen on top of them - mix in few of those in and that wall of death would become much more scary to beat.

  • @EdaugEthanbYT
    @EdaugEthanbYT3 жыл бұрын

    The tactic of shooting clones was rarer than Gonk Droids. Why else would the CIS lose BOTH Clone Wars if that’s not true?

  • @gonkdroid4603

    @gonkdroid4603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gonk

  • @thereaperlord3738

    @thereaperlord3738

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because in the late stage of the war nearly all droids was disabled by Palpatine and their leadership was killed by Anakin which was led there by Palpatine.

  • @matthiuskoenig3378

    @matthiuskoenig3378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thereaperlord3738 ssshhh you're not supposed to tell clone-stans the war was rigged or that there was a droid shut down, it might break their fragile egos.

  • @Sigma-gb9yd

    @Sigma-gb9yd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matthiuskoenig3378 The Republic would have either (barely) won, or negotiated a peaceful end to the war. Palps sabotaged the Republic far more than the CIS, stepping in for the Republic only when the CIS were about to win the war too early. That aside, the more likely event is that the Clone and Droid Armies would largely go unused, as a peaceful resolution would have been negotiated before the war got too out of hand.

  • @TheGitakTV

    @TheGitakTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Sigma-gb9yd You must understand that in case of peace thats CIS victory... Their main mission is to leave Republic. They dont have to destroy or take over it. Also i doubt that Republic would have enough troops to occupy CIS. And without Palpatine taking over banks i doubt they would even have money.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta20733 жыл бұрын

    They did have a lot of weapons and vehicles they were so cool I'm so happy your finally doing video of this

  • @thedisturbedone5026
    @thedisturbedone50263 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely remember the sniper destroyer droids because those things suck to fight in one of the lego starwars games

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim76753 жыл бұрын

    B1 Unit, "Well, orders are orders!"

  • @InventorZahran

    @InventorZahran

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Good soldiers follow orders."

  • @skaionex
    @skaionex2 жыл бұрын

    The real reason: they weren't meant to win. The Droid army wasn't built to win a war, just cause one. If they were allowed to actually go full ham, the clones wouldn't have won or even lived. Palpatine weakened the Droid army for a reason.

  • @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
    @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc3 жыл бұрын

    (0:31) I imagine that if the droids used smart tactics, the Separatists would have won the war. (0:38) In the grand scheme of sponsorships, that one wasn't that bad. (2:20) Well... Gungans aren't exactly commando droids.

  • @InitialiseDisk
    @InitialiseDisk3 жыл бұрын

    Orbital bombardments was another this the CIS should have used more considering most of the time they were capturing planets instead of protecting them.

  • @matthiuskoenig3378
    @matthiuskoenig33783 жыл бұрын

    1:29 the weapon here is the most under used weapon for its effectiveness and simplicity. we are shown in the episodes its used single B1s are more than capable of lifting and carrying mutch heavier equipment (shells for their semi-autonomous cannons), and the things lay down serieous firepower even jedi have a hard time , let alone the clones. if there was 1 for every 10 B1s (like the MG42 for the germans in ww2) the seps would likely lockdown the field in practically every battle, giveing the seps a major advantage. add in mortars (cheap and effective close support artillery) and more artillery in general and the clones would be quickly suppressed and destroyed, while the droids would be mostly free to manuvre and advance.

  • @strictlyinstrumental2129
    @strictlyinstrumental21292 жыл бұрын

    You also have to remember that most of these strategies, as seen in the clone wars, were undermined by the Jedi. Yeah, sure you could revise them, but they would evidently just find another way around it, and the cycle would keep repeating. Meanwhile, strategies like the death March and other strategies that seemingly could have been put to revision actually won a decent number of battles.

  • @oliverbrooks4588
    @oliverbrooks45882 жыл бұрын

    The sniper droidika always reminded me the turret the covenent uses with the grunts

  • @Dudeman9339
    @Dudeman93393 жыл бұрын

    well... when you have an unyielding and untiring and fearless army you tend to lean on those strengths quite heavily.

  • @Hapa45lolo
    @Hapa45lolo3 жыл бұрын

    Trench was Rommel and Grievous was like Patton

  • @G59forlife.

    @G59forlife.

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know Rommel, but who was Patton?

  • @TheHawkeye0725

    @TheHawkeye0725

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@G59forlife. one of the most successful US generals during ww2 and who helped liberate Sicily

  • @G59forlife.

    @G59forlife.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHawkeye0725 thanks

  • @nickvinsable3798
    @nickvinsable37983 жыл бұрын

    Actually, I’d like to know which tactics that, though rare, were used repeatedly. From the episode Rookies, how often were Commando droids deployed like Republic Commandos? And more…

  • @Just_Lars

    @Just_Lars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, the thing with all Commando Operations (at least in Star Wars) is, that they followed two targtes: Take out high value personal, or conquer/destroy critical infrastructer to prepare an attack. The thing is, especially the CIS had very few of those. There is no point in kiling Governeurs or Senators, because it doesn't do anything for the war. Same with bases or outposts: sure, you might conquer one, but why putting so much effort into something that can be archived by a surprise Attack by ordinary droids too. In the end, while the republic used their commandos for stuff like scouting, sabotage of factorys and so on, commando droids replaced Droidekas in guard dutys or where simply used as Jedi killers (a job Magna guards were better at) because most CIS Commanders rarely ever had use for them. They were too expensive to be deployed in mass numbers, while the the republic hadn't any big facilities worth destroying aside from maybe Kamino, a few hospital stations and Coruscant itself. What they were actually really good at was using civilian infrastructure and civilians themselves to their advantage. The seperatist leadership knew, that the Republic never would attack at the risk of civilian casulties, so a repeated strategy (with great success) was, to put up their Operation bases in big cities with many civilians. That way the enemy was forced to CQC-Combat, were the droids could use there mass numbers undisturbed by heavy fire. Another evry effective strategy was blockading planets to force the local government to surrender. Sure, it took some time but since most ships were manned by droids, it wasn't personal intense and the GAR couldn't fight anywhere at the same time, they needed to focus power to break one. And when theere where dozens of blockades all over the galaxy, you can imagine that it was a figth against windmills.

  • @squilliampills9851
    @squilliampills98512 жыл бұрын

    An idea they could've used was a ray shield on the back of an AAT, and you have one in an armored column of, let's say 20 tanks, put the shield tank at the middle or the rear of the formation and now the column is more heavily defended.

  • @tiredox3788
    @tiredox37883 жыл бұрын

    Looks like they care more about quantity instead of quality.

  • @geetslys

    @geetslys

    3 жыл бұрын

    In a nutshell, yes.

  • @alejandroelluxray5298

    @alejandroelluxray5298

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, that did win the CIS many battles, Those walls are as deadly as they are vulnerable

  • @norad_clips
    @norad_clips3 жыл бұрын

    That surfshark lead in was great!

  • @ikicrat2379
    @ikicrat23793 жыл бұрын

    I think it Was basically the desgin of the Clone Wars by Sidious and Tyranus. If Tyranus really tried to win against Sidious better tactics would have been used and the Droid army i think would have been more Civil to civilans to get the public on their side.

  • @mattd5857
    @mattd58572 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the Wall of Death strategy may have been one more motivated by the corporate leadership of the CIS than any potential tactical value. In most situations you want heavy armor to lead your charges as those units can shrug off small arms fire and take out priority targets before the lighter more vulnerable infantry come in to actually secure the area and mop up anything the armor missed. With the droid army though I can see even entire platoons of B1s being cheaper than a single AAT and with casualties being a non issue it's simply more cost effective to lead with the most disposable and cheapest unit.

  • @biggiecheez4203
    @biggiecheez42033 жыл бұрын

    I live how Droidikas were so badass even Jedi had trouble meanwhile in BF2 their the most useless units in the game😂

  • @CaptainPrincess
    @CaptainPrincess2 жыл бұрын

    its funny that the droidekas' stubby little legs left them relegated to use indoors since their ability to fold up and roll out like a wheel wouldve been a great way to deploy and position them across any kind of terrain, so long as they didnt need to move once theyd set up

  • @nomorok15
    @nomorok152 жыл бұрын

    The Last one I call bs on. Having a load of medium sized mobile shield generators in the middle of those square formation does not seem like that much of a hastle. Just put them in the front lines to absorb most of what's coming your way and that rly should do it in most battles, maybe put some on high priority troops if need be. With those numbers it's not about getting no losses but losses you can calculate and take without having to worry about it.

  • @odinlindeberg4624
    @odinlindeberg46242 жыл бұрын

    Honestly there's a lot to consider in the case of how to defeat republic forces, for one considering the fact that the clones are the superior fighting machines over B1s, but also considering the fact they're usually led by a jedi. One thing I know for sure is I'd want B1 assassins on practically every hilltop covering each other's line of sight in order to take out the jedi, which would make it a far more conventional battle. If you take out the jedi or make them retreat, you can start thinking about how to focus as much fire onto the clones as you can. You'd want some special units like commando droids patrolling the high ground, seeing as ambushes from above seem to be one of the republic's most favorite tactics.

  • @heinrichfrost6952
    @heinrichfrost69522 жыл бұрын

    I would say droidekas were the perfect flanking unit... But since we never saw such complex tactic in the battlefield, I guess it must remain just as a theory lol

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones49123 жыл бұрын

    Your video on Devilainians ignored the elephant in the room or the StarWars creatures on There planet or exciting arena . They harsh government was ruled by the females . And last episode of the Bad Batch . Turns out the mothers of a male criminal was a devilarian

  • @GuntherRommel

    @GuntherRommel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Devaronian

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire13 жыл бұрын

    A question from the expanded universe I never saw an answer to: Was Jaden Korr a part of the Thrawn Jedi Cloning program?

  • @starlightdragon2665
    @starlightdragon26652 жыл бұрын

    As far as I could tell; reading into the lore from Republic Commando forwards and throughout the Clone Wars; Rise of the Empire and the Galatic Civil War Periods. CIS droids were superior in nearly every respect to clones; save for their independent thinking. Clone casualties in the Clone War; Storm Troopers, Rebels and Zann Consortium Forces all took heavy casualties against droids; even the overpowered and highly well equipped (albeit illegally) Zann Consortium struggled to take over a droid factory. The largest reasons why the CIS didn't employ greater methods was because Emperor Palpatine was running the show. In addition the CIS were also not as well unified as they seemed; they were dozens of independence groups working together, but that didn't mean they all liked it. I imagine price tags for cheap items were exorbitant; and even expensive items were difficult to make because one group wanted way more credits than the tech was worth.

  • @colegrigsby9401
    @colegrigsby94013 жыл бұрын

    why not slightly stagger the droids in the wall of death so the second road can fire as well as the first.

  • @curtishoward4470
    @curtishoward44702 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to think somewhere in a galaxy there's a ruined city that's still populated with separatist snipers and the only reason why the city was never rebuild was because after 50+ years of the galaxy changing those remaining droids continued to kill any organic thinking they were clones. It'd make a good book I think.

  • @phantomsights4533
    @phantomsights45333 жыл бұрын

    The one thing I always wondered. I’m the later seasons when we see Commando Droids, why are they always Commando Droid Captains and never the regular ones? Like when Rex, Anakin, and Fives went to save Tup, we see only Commando Droid Captains and not regular ones. Is it because Captains are more competent and they didn’t want to use normies or is this something I’m thinking to hard about?

  • @zacharyhoyte493

    @zacharyhoyte493

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s probably the animators being lazy and using one model of commando droids

  • @miniaturejayhawk8702
    @miniaturejayhawk87023 жыл бұрын

    Personal handheld shields are an underapreciated tactic. You cant imagine how much I hate jackals after playing halo ce on heroic!

  • @RC--sg9kd
    @RC--sg9kd2 жыл бұрын

    Those are some serious looking droids.... they don't stand a chance against me tho.

  • @The49thKey
    @The49thKey3 жыл бұрын

    I could have answered this question with one statement. The dark lord of the sith didn't want either side to win the war because he needed a long protracted war to implement his plan of galactic conquest.

  • @TWOHEADEDOGRE
    @TWOHEADEDOGRE3 жыл бұрын

    6:54 the closest thing to the real world version of that tactic is called human wave attack

  • @Pyranafish
    @Pyranafish3 жыл бұрын

    seps should really use more hit-n-run tactic with the vulture droids and drop deploy droideikas and take the gar from behind

  • @nicholasfarrell5981

    @nicholasfarrell5981

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would've been cool to see.

  • @admiraltroll5255
    @admiraltroll52552 жыл бұрын

    Destroyer droids would be great as mobile machine gun nests. Fast to move and deploy plus they carry their own protection so no need to dig the gun in

  • @nicholasfarrell5981
    @nicholasfarrell59813 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a video on nonhuman groups that willingly supported the Empire (i.e., the Ailon Nova Guard), if you haven't done one already.

  • @breaden4381
    @breaden43813 жыл бұрын

    So droidekas with wheels or tracks would have been OP

  • @herrtyphive1503
    @herrtyphive15033 жыл бұрын

    I think that Papa Palp didnt allow shields etc to be used on droids because then the CIS would have become too powerful and that would risk the republics final Victory, which Palpy needed to create his empire

  • @bobsterclause342
    @bobsterclause3422 жыл бұрын

    Im thinking that the shielding is externally powered. That would explain everything. In fact, the tanks flew really, really high, around 5he mtts. That can be explained too.

  • @ayaskantmahapatra2487
    @ayaskantmahapatra24873 жыл бұрын

    So Surfshark is how signatures were scrambled?

  • @oskarkrolak9523
    @oskarkrolak95232 жыл бұрын

    Me who had Surfshark before the video's release: * Laughs in beta squad *

  • @riolufan2249
    @riolufan22493 жыл бұрын

    The wall of death deployment strategy is possibly not as bad as he frames it as, not just efficient deployment, but if you have a single droid shooting at 60 blasts per minute (bpm) and you have 64 droids in an 8x8 formation you have 60 blasts multiplied by 64, affectively increasing the fire rate rediculously high if they're focusing on a single target. And with this would've been way better with the fact that the CIS seldom had to worry about being outnumbered. This formation was actually used by European countries during the 1800s as a unit of soldiers would have the fire rate of a machine gun with only using muskets

  • @-CrimsoN-
    @-CrimsoN-2 жыл бұрын

    Droidekas can only deploy their shields when they are stationary and not rolling. Therefore, shields would have been useless on something like droid commandos who rely on their agility as their greatest feat.

  • @80sRetrosaur
    @80sRetrosaur2 жыл бұрын

    In regards to the wall of death Napoleon used French columns in much the same way, worked pretty well for him too.

  • @andrewkuebler4335
    @andrewkuebler433511 ай бұрын

    I like to keep in mind that Sedious was ultimately behind everything the CIS did, so he would have prevented them from using any tactics that would have ended the war too soon.

  • @sirshotty7689
    @sirshotty76893 жыл бұрын

    Also it seems like droidekas are best deployed in close quarters environments. They can deploy very quickly and shut down enemy movements with rapid fire. It doesn’t seem very sensible to deploy them in an open environment where they could easily be outmaneuvered or quickly taken out with heavy ordinance from vehicles or RPS-6’s. When comparing the costs to their effectiveness in different environments it makes sense to not see them very often in battles with massive armies in the open.

  • @Viperfish9000
    @Viperfish90003 жыл бұрын

    Hello there! *proceeds to jump into a droid army*

  • @BrassPlayr

    @BrassPlayr

    3 жыл бұрын

    General Kenobi! You are a bold one.

  • @Viperfish9000

    @Viperfish9000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrassPlayr head clanka I'll just delay him until my army which cam take over 3 systems arrives

  • @Obiwan7100

    @Obiwan7100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrassPlayr Hello There

  • @Viperfish9000

    @Viperfish9000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Obiwan7100 I will do what I must..... General kenobi! Ha ha ha you are a bold one! (Grevious is my favourite SW and sci-fi character)

  • @diegotemple8277
    @diegotemple82773 жыл бұрын

    Bro you have the greatest sponsor hook tactic

  • @nightpups5835
    @nightpups5835 Жыл бұрын

    my guess for why some droids didn't have certain tech comes down to patent and trade secrets not being shared between companies.

  • @binbows2258
    @binbows22583 жыл бұрын

    Nice video bro. Keep it up

  • @AustinAllenRaney
    @AustinAllenRaney3 жыл бұрын

    May the force be with you all, always! #🌟

  • @shankthebat8654
    @shankthebat86543 жыл бұрын

    You're missing the most obvious and most honest answer. The CiS armies didn't use advanced tactics more than once, because this was a TV show, and they didn't like to repeat tactics, because that would bore people. They didn't repeat a winning strategy because the bad guys can't be allowed to win. Unique designs followed the "rule of cool" and were deployed based on that, not on based on tactics or strategy.

  • @KirbyBWebb
    @KirbyBWebb3 жыл бұрын

    I am surprised they survived considering their own inner conflicts .

  • @anthonyjohnson1665
    @anthonyjohnson16653 жыл бұрын

    In the battle of christophsis, when the wall of death split up, rather than staying in standard formation, it worked so well. This could have been in the video and the separatists could have used it repeatedly without much fracture.

  • @fonesrphunny7242
    @fonesrphunny72423 жыл бұрын

    2:22 If the shield deflects blaster fire, how can you shoot through it from behind without pushing the gun all the way through the shield? Wouldn't the 'energy projectile' be reflected before it leaves the barrel? 3:30 These guns are perfectly enclosed inside the shield. Why are these shields working differently?

  • @hawke7471

    @hawke7471

    3 жыл бұрын

    Theyre polarized in such a way that the blaster fire can come *out*, but blaster fire can't come in perhaps? Much like a 3DS's 3D function, where turning it on and off actually adjusts the beams passing through the screen to make that 3D look?

  • @unnamed1613
    @unnamed16133 жыл бұрын

    While it´s obviously way to inefficient to equip every mere B1 or B2 Battledroid with a PSG, it still doesn´t make much sense why they wouldn´t use them on the more expensive and thus less expendable models like Magnaguards or Elite-Battledroids, especialy since the Magnaguards are primarily designed for CQC and have to close the distance to their target without beeing hit by blasterfire. Most CoS Leaders are buisnessmen. They should realize it´s cheaper and more efficient to spend more on the Droids to increase their durability in combat instead of wasting ressources to constantly replace them due to lesser defences.

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry27292 жыл бұрын

    It probably (at least in universe) comes down to Sidious not wanting the CIS to win too much, otherwise the war might have slipped out of his control. I mean droidekas could have easily been upgraded with better legs to be able to walk on sand and such and maybe even a repulsor-unit to prevent them from easily being force-pushed, if you added some better weapons and maybe some phrik or cortosis-weave (to protect them while rolling!), then you have a jedi-killer on your hands (which could of course be turned on the sith, too!)! Sniper-Droidekas could have been used to overwhelm weaker Jedi at long range, droids with shields would have over all been tougher to kill, while still being able to be made a lot faster than clones (clones need to grow, even with growth-acceleration (which also makes them age faster later on, so it is a trade off), not to mention that they need training (even with flash-learning, which is quite dangerous, too as it can damage the brain!))...hell, if the CIS went all out, the Jedi might have once again have had to utilize techniques they forgot about (sometimes deliberately, because of dogma...hell, they might have had to teach everybody ELECTRIC JUDGEMENT, which is a Jedi-Version of Force Lightning!), like Droid-Destruction Force Power! Hell, they might have looked into battle meditation, to boost the clones even more (and which would make even some badly trained Rebell forces - yes, the first Rebells were badly trained (if at all! Many were cannon fodder basically) - into an army, with a single Jedi there to utilize battle meditation, which basically turns living beings into a something akin to a hive mind or a fully networked droid army!)

  • @Noah-zz8uw

    @Noah-zz8uw

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think another part of the reason is how TCW portrays the CIS as mostly marching columns of B1s armed with E-5s, when expanded content like Star Wars Legion has the average squad of B1 Battledroids carrying 2 or so heavy weapons, using genuine tactics, and Battlefront 2 has a variety of weapons that B1s can be equipped with as well.

  • @rc59191
    @rc591913 жыл бұрын

    What's even more rare are the Republic's battle droids. Only time I've seen them are in Fall of The Republic.

  • @bon7029
    @bon70292 жыл бұрын

    *Droid places optics up to sniper rifle scope.* Me: Space faring technology, but being able to get a droid to interface with a camera on a sniper rifle scope is impossible?

  • @Noah-zz8uw

    @Noah-zz8uw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sniper Droideka... For all we know, the droid may actually have the camera projected iinto their "mind," but the main redason a Commando Droid doesn't have scopes for eyes is because they are meant to use a variety of weapons and equipment, from pistols, to blades, to rocket launchers and piloting vehicles

  • @Gripen1974
    @Gripen19742 жыл бұрын

    Wall of death would be easy to repel with area denying weapons. Machine guns, mortars, automatic grenade launchers and stuff as that. If we play the old star wars games would the concussion rifle and the repeater take out large chunks of wall of death so superior numbers wouldn't mater. It was basically what happen when the machinegun entered the war in our world, large numbers of troops in formation failed and we went for dirty trench warfare in ww1.

  • @pyrosauria7444
    @pyrosauria74443 жыл бұрын

    Now I know we have these discussions about why the Republic and CIS didn’t do more of a specific thing. But here’s a question to ask. Why didn’t we see a lot of stuff from the Clone Wars, including these specialized units and tactics, be used by the Empire? I mean stormtroopers (for all their awful depictions) are meant to be well trained marines to the Empire yet they seem to almost always use just a big down standard infantry for most stuff instead of mixing up specialized units in their ranks. The shields for example could have been used by Stormtrooper guards on ships and stations.

  • @Just_Lars

    @Just_Lars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Canonically, the Empire's propaganda made it seem like the Stormtrooper where the Empires finest, when they really were not. Maybe at the start, yes, but with the years they lowered the standards and the Stormtrooper exeeded in numbers even partially the "regular" Imperial troops. Plus, those were mostly stationed on peaceful planets as a kind of heavy armed police, while Stormtrooper where more or less the actual Army of the Empire. The high numbers brought up the need for relatively cheap, standartized equipment and since dead Stormtroopers where higly replaceble, there really was no need to put more money into them then necessary. Another explenation would be, that the priorites where just different. Since Tarkin established his doktrin, the Empire tried to look as scary as possible. The money got into big, shiny projects. A battle station here, a massive fleet of basically useless Battleships there. They just saw no need to equip the troops properly, because as soon as the galaxy would see the true potential of the empire, nobody would rebel anyway.

  • @tomoyukisaito5275
    @tomoyukisaito52752 жыл бұрын

    Honestly sending a few waves of droidika's to distract the enemy as you have your death wall move in with the deflector shield. Your first few wave of B1's and Super Battle Droids having their own personal shields to help protect the front of the army in case some how the deflector shield gets destroyed or just when you finally make contact with the enemy within range. Having Jedi killer manga guards with thier own personal shields while being protected by the Commando droids armed with sniper rifles to basically just kill off any Jedi and Clone Commanders. Fuck it send some Droidika's at Clone Armor with them having a explosive core or something inside so they can just be suicide bombers. Add in some air support and have a backup deflector shield just in case the 1st one gets destroyed.

  • @georgestathakis6643
    @georgestathakis66433 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on the Guavian Death Gang, especially on the security soldiers

  • @jameswalker4291
    @jameswalker42913 жыл бұрын

    Your Imperial breakdown of the need for SurfShark is 100% 🎯

  • @HarryPotter-qj2sp
    @HarryPotter-qj2sp3 жыл бұрын

    I would have of been collecting all the robots. Used them as guard dogs

  • @joshuablunt3469
    @joshuablunt34692 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always wondered what Palpatine would have done if Anakin got killed in combat before he executed order 66 or whatever

  • @grayscribe1342

    @grayscribe1342

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look for a replacement I'd say. There was a short comic where the Apprentice to a Sith (rule of Two time) accidentally helped a slave escape. Of course, unless she escaped the planet she would be quickly back in chains so she followed them and tried to get them to take her with them. On top of a platform where their ship was the Master turns around and says: "I don't need a servant and I have an Apprentice." She looks at the Apprentice, grabs his lightsaber and pushes him off the platform. The Master turns around and says without batting an eye: "Are you coming Apprentice?" Anakin was perfect for Palpatine, but not irreplaceable.

  • @garethwood1139
    @garethwood11393 жыл бұрын

    9:20 'Last-ditch' and 'vanguard' don't really belong together since the vanguard is the front line of the initial attack.

  • @MinskyDoxsky
    @MinskyDoxsky3 жыл бұрын

    Cortosis armor manga droids with personal shields

  • @PJOZeus
    @PJOZeus2 жыл бұрын

    Two words, Frenzy Mode.

  • @gideonhorwitz9434
    @gideonhorwitz9434 Жыл бұрын

    The inherent nature of specialization in large armies is cost and quantity. A specialized Droidika sniper was probably double the cost of a ordinary model like wise outfitting b2s with rocket launchers and jet packs is not cheap and takes time away from creating more standard b1s and 2s that was more needed for the battle field. It’s that same argument I had with my friends back in the day about why didn’t the seps focus more on building commando Droids instead of b1s the clone wars was a numbers game the confederacy didn’t have the population of the republic but made up for it in natural resources and so building a large droid army was the only viable way.

  • @nathankuberski3500
    @nathankuberski35003 жыл бұрын

    Honestly we could probably just blame it on Palps trying to delay the end of the war.

  • @Sawtooth44
    @Sawtooth443 жыл бұрын

    there is one thing they could add to the wall of death give the front line shields, not the energy shields but a slab of durasteel, maybe with a cutout so they dont need to stick a limb out, ied refer to a warhammer 40k animation but if memory serves me right GW hired all the greatest fan animators and told them to remove those animations, but there should be plenty of reaction videos of the wh40k animation called Siege, hell you could pump those shields out faster then anything else in the CIS

  • @fixedcog2496
    @fixedcog24963 жыл бұрын

    Hey Geetsly's stop calling me Sirley lmao

  • @PJOZeus
    @PJOZeus Жыл бұрын

    Maybe it takes a lot of theatre shields, but a theatre shield covers the same area, if one is effective a dozen with a dozen times the army would be just as effective Yes it would cost a dozen times more, but it would just as effective credit for credit

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