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@zgiffish

23 күн бұрын

:(

@Arisawa_Heavy_Ind

22 күн бұрын

the ad transition was wild hahaha

@scantyer

22 күн бұрын

Slop

@WackoMcGoose

19 күн бұрын

I know sponsors are super strict with how you present their logo and branding, but it would have been _wild_ if you had "paperized" that transition, making the lime the PM64 item and making the text appear on sticks like the chapter titles...

As someone who has worked at a game company, I can tell you that just because something seems like it was purposely made to make something impossible from every angle, it’s entirely possible that it’s just a coincidence. Like the door could be locked on the inside solely because the trigger to unlock the door is set to both sides, defaulting it to be locked from both sides before that trigger is tripped. It doesn’t mean they actually did that on purpose. Game devs accidentally do things that make the game sturdier basically just as much as they accidentally do things that make the game breakable.

@vyor8837

22 күн бұрын

On the other hand, the very clearly deliberate blocks on skips exist so...

@Electrosa

22 күн бұрын

Isn't Wind Waker's famous fuck-you field a great example of this? It's just your classic invisible wall that stretches way higher than it needs to because it's very easy to make them that way.

@MTDcreations

20 күн бұрын

Thank you for saying this

@WackoMcGoose

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, the double-sided door lock seems just plain a consequence of the engine change. _Disabling the teleporter_ on the other hand, completely deliberate _fixing of an obvious oversight_ in the previous game.

@requiemagent3014

18 күн бұрын

Oh boy you have little to no knowledge about Nintendo. They are notorious for going after speedrunner and trying everything to sabotage them

The original TTYD was believed to be unbreakable too, i remember when the any% record was 7 hours and you had to do every chapters in order with no skips. It took a long time before a chapter could be skipped.

@anon4305

22 күн бұрын

I wonder if glitchless runs are faster because of the reduced backtracking or if the text and menu speed makes up the difference

@Redpoppy80

18 күн бұрын

I remember it took over a decade to discover the first major skips.

@starkeeper_youtube

10 күн бұрын

@@anon4305 Switch any% is about 2 hours slower than Gamecube glitchless so presumably the answer is yes the slower text and menus make a HUGE impact

I don't think it would have been as fun if nothing was patched. Two versions of the same game having different things to use for different runs adds variety.

@SilverRoxas

23 күн бұрын

yeah most of us felt the same and didnt mind remake being longer.... not 8 hours tho. however like almost 2 hours of that is just from the slower text LUL

@KobiHameed

22 күн бұрын

it's kind of like how the original Mario 64 and Mario 64 DS are both very broken but in completely different ways

@DonutSwordsman

22 күн бұрын

Cope

I think people are being rather too antagonistic with the devs here. Progammers aren't out to get you, they are usually people out to fix problems as they find them.

@Sniperbear13

23 күн бұрын

some programmers will actually leave Bugs and such in the game because they know how much the Speedrun community love to use them. the Programmers sometimes do have a way they want people to experience the game too, and sometimes that means stomping out various Bugs and such that can break the game, which can even make parts of the game more or less fun(very much something that changes person to person).

@DeathByAnvil

23 күн бұрын

@@Sniperbear13for the second part good for them.

@timthetoolpool

22 күн бұрын

God forbid developers try to make a bug free game. Speedrunning has ruined so many peoples' view of games.

@JosiahBradley

22 күн бұрын

@@timthetoolpool why are you even watching a speed running KZread channel lol. Go away.

@timthetoolpool

22 күн бұрын

@@JosiahBradley Because, speedrun doesn't have to mean glitch through 90% of the game.

So basically Nintendo did the Opposite thing they did back in OOT 3DS, which is still one of the best ways to legally play that game.

@Shadowstar1311

23 күн бұрын

Wait, is there a non-3d OOT? I’ve never heard of one.

@dave9515

23 күн бұрын

@@Shadowstar1311 oot3d you know the 3ds version?

@toumabyakuya

23 күн бұрын

Because maintaining glitches is not their responsibility.

@ArmandoDoval

23 күн бұрын

I'd bet money OoT 3D is emulated, just with hacks for better models and textures.

@stigmaoftherose

23 күн бұрын

​@ArmandoDoval it isn't. It even has new glitches that are not in OoT

Quick answer: 2 full decades of QA Testing by the most dedicated players be like that.

As someone working professionally as the Lead QA at a video game publisher, I'll throw my two cents out for anyone interested. First and foremost, I can tell you that when I, personally, am doing QA on games, there have been numerous times where I've found glitches that I would categorize as "Most normal players probably won't ever find this, but it could be fun for speedrunners," and from there, it's entirely up to the devs themselves on if they want to keep the issue or fix it. That being said, it can still be a huge gamble on if it's worth it to leave such glitches in. Sometimes, a glitch might be hard to find, and could be great for speedrunning, but could also potentially softlock a file if players don't follow the steps exactly. Casual players are not speedrunners and the majority just want a game that works. Speedrunning, while still really entertaining, is also EXTREMELY niche in the grand scale of who is playing the game. It's not a good look for a company to leave in glitches that could potentially lead to softlocks or file corruption etc. etc. Secondly, ya gotta remember, QA a job. It's a career path. It's how people make the money to pay their bills. I think it's extremely easy for people to forget that. People who work QA are already put into a position where they take flak from every side. If a game is buggy? Blame QA, because they "didn't find the bugs," even though they probably did, but they just weren't fixed after being reported. If a game DOESN'T have bugs then blame QA because they.... did... their job? At the end of the day, I seriously doubt that the people working at Nintendo did this to "spite" anyone. They certainly weren't fixing issues just to stick it to speedrunners. This last part is just my opinion, and I don't see it changing anytime soon, but still worth mentioning: I think that, while I personally understand there is (usually) no malice in how it's said, when people call these games "incredibly broken" it does come off as a bit insulting to the developers, because ultimately, these games AREN'T "incredibly broken." Yes, TTYD on Gamecube has some wild skips in it, but these are things that took YEARS to find, from a relentless player base constantly looking to do exactly that. For 99.999% of players, none of those glitches and skips were ever found, nor will they ever BE found. The game ran as intended from start to finish, to the point where most people would just assume it was flawless. Looking at the comments here, it's kind of a shame how many people think that game developers are out to get them or fix things just to spite them. I just wish people would have a bit more introspection and empathy towards game developers. Ya know, the people making the things we all love so much, but I digress. Anyway, I still dig the video, and I do personally hope that we see some brand NEW skips in this remake, because I think they're awesome. I just wish that people wouldn't be so antagonist towards developers, and would stop making extremely broad statements like calling these games "completely broken."

@andeggbreaks

17 күн бұрын

I thought that when people call speedrun games 'broken', they meant it more as in 'broken open'? I don't think the people using that phrase would describe the game as 'buggy', but rather they mean that the community has found a lot of useful exploits. I appreciate the insight in your comment.

@Adeios96

17 күн бұрын

I'm glad you made this point, it helped reaffirm I'm not the only one who's been thinking about this. I do wish some content creators reframed the way they spoke of patches and bugfixes so that they don't come off as villainizing the developers for fixing a game. I fear that level of thinking will only further the divide between passionate speedrunners and the average playerbase. The Pizza Swap Glitch in Elden Ring is a good example from a still relevant game. That glitch absolutely mows down bosses making it excellent for a speedrun, but since there's PvP in Elden Ring that same glitch could be used to ruin another human opponent with no counterplay. It creates a divide where some Speedrunners want the glitch to benefit the speedrun but everyone else wants it gone because it's ruining the experience for the average player. Speaking ill of FromSoft for trying to fix the glitch would only leave the average player to feel negatively towards the concept of speedrunning if a speedrunner would prefer to sacrifice a game's overall health for the sake of a speedrunning technique.

@SimplyAJ

16 күн бұрын

@@andeggbreaks That's entirely possible, and I'll admit, could easily be something I overlooked when it comes to referring to the term "broken." Granted that being said, if I took it at face value, then I'm sure plenty of other people have too. I think that's just part of the nuance of language though, as we start using more and more shorthand, unless you were in the know of what the shorthand originally meant, it might take on a whole new meaning haha. I appreciate you letting me know, though!

@SimplyAJ

16 күн бұрын

​@@Adeios96 Yeah, I mean I'm not necessarily trying to place blame on anyone for anything in specific, but more or less just explaining how things might be taken or viewed from those on the other side. I think it's pretty easy to have snap reactions of "this should have been this way" or "why didn't they fix THIS instead of THAT" on just about everything, outside of games even, but usually when you dig a little deeper, there's typically SOME sort of reason as to why. I mean hell, we all do it, to come extent haha.

@fictionalmediabully9830

6 күн бұрын

​​@@SimplyAJ I once learned at University that being a game tester is an emotionally draining job. Spending hours per day trying to break a game to find anything crucial to address sounds monotonous. Kudos to the testers for pushing through such tedium to ensure a casually bug-free experience, especially those stuck with testing a game that isn't much fun to play. 👍

I don't think it's unbreakable, it's just broken in its own way

@user-od2qc2od1y

22 күн бұрын

That is often the case with remakes but of course this is going to be a harder case then the original simply due to the fact that games nowadays have a lot more quality assurance put into them then before the reason old games were so broken was for that very reason lack of Quality Assurance but nowadays most games go through a lot of quality assurance to fix glitches that could break immersion or ruin someone's save file like this one

@coolperson5479

20 күн бұрын

@varietychan not to burst your bubble but it's insanely locked down the even re worked Mario's physics data structures. Even if you found some new way to do jump storage or text storage a lot of those flags now get set to clear on loading zone changes their properly binded to changemap evts. It's unlikely the game will have anything relevant they fixed basically everything and timestop was mostly useless anyways the one major glitch it did have.

@varietychan

20 күн бұрын

@@coolperson5479 they "fixed" basically everything about the original, but they made mistakes in the process as well as new weird glitches like the early Ch. 4 key

@Lexi-ro7mk

19 күн бұрын

​ and you can't forget about the badge multiplication glitch

@coolperson5479

19 күн бұрын

@Lexi-ro7mk it has no speedrunning uses and takes a while to setup hence why I never brought it up. Timestop at least had a few second time saves to skip some battles. If some of the best glitch hunters couldn't find anything you know the games locked down. Were talking people who specialized in computer science or infosec. People that know how most code works like the back of their hand. Just based on what's known about this games scripting system while some of the code is reused from the original the devs fixed so many known loopholes to exploit.

The best part of the original teleporter room early is having Flavio follow you around and get into peculiar spots during cinematics

@dimenzio3612

17 күн бұрын

Yes it was so fucking funny

I think this game is gonna be absolutely broken, just in its own way. I mean, people already figured out how to do badge duplication (And it actually has a use unlike pm64,) so it's only a matter of time before more broken stuff is discovered

Honestly, I think glitch hunters should be looking into finding new skips. There are probably skips involving things completely new to the remake (like the pipe room under Rogueport) that we just haven't found yet

Wow, the speedrunners had Hello Fresh up their sleeves? That's so wild, I can't believe that Hello Fresh was part of the speedrunning scene of this game. Really great that you added that into your script, very informative.

I see the people of the comments don't subscribe to "limitations breed creativity". The run being forced to diverge from the original is cool, hopefully we end up with a run that looks fairly different with it's own tech.

Is it bad that I kind of root for the devs on this? Like, to make such a tightly coded game that it's impossible to skip major portions?

@aliasella488

18 күн бұрын

Why in the world would that be bad? It's incredibly commendable!

@vernanonix

18 күн бұрын

@@aliasella488 Because it makes speedrunners’ lives difficult lol

@aliasella488

5 күн бұрын

​@@vernanonix More challenge then

@devilspoo3682

Күн бұрын

​@@vernanonixtell them to enjoy the damn game instead

Yeah, just sounds like more time needs to be put into the game before more glitches are discovered. This is isn’t even anything special. Of course Nintendo would want less bugs in the game. Most companies want less buggy games to show the public.

@maskettaman1488

23 күн бұрын

A speedrunning scene does more good for a game than some obscure bug does harm.

@egbertmilton4003

23 күн бұрын

@@maskettaman1488 Seeing how niche speedrunning is, it’s a negligible difference to the audience. There are many more challenges in this game that are more interesting and alluring than speed running. It’s sad seeing people whine about an easy speed run not being available.

@maskettaman1488

23 күн бұрын

@@egbertmilton4003 Speedrunning is far from niche... how out of the loop are you? SGDQ, a speed running event, just finished and raised over 2 million dollars for charity from fans. Hundreds of thousands of people tune in to it. Speedrunning is also one of the most popular activities on Twitch and KZread livestreams. Maybe you're stuck in the year 2000 lol You can make a livelihood on youtube just TALKING about speedrunning. That's the complete opposite of niche.

@notmelenda

23 күн бұрын

​@egbertmilton4003 speedrunners have already beaten the in game challenges a million times over

@goose_clues

22 күн бұрын

@@maskettaman1488この自分が正しいと思ってる西洋仕草、良い感じだで

9:07 I could'e sworn there was a plate you could ground pound on at the end of the path near the toad

@SilverRoxas

23 күн бұрын

its not close enough to the cheep cheep. those kinds of jump storages activate instantly

@fawfulthegreat64

22 күн бұрын

@@SilverRoxas what if you used it to get on top of the train, I know the train has actual collision on its roof in the remake and maybe you can jump far enough off the front of it. Or get on top of the save block and do a frame perfect jump from there. Probably not, just spitballing ideas in case they haven't been tested.

Oh also on July 9th right before this video released Nintendo Patched TTYD Remake to ver 1.0.1 which removed blue key early and patched the mowz text storage/timestop glitches among fixing other softlocks. Thanks for that Nintendo!

@rontheauraknight9606

23 күн бұрын

Yeah I was wondering what that changed

@Bowser6495

23 күн бұрын

"Oh no I can't break the game" But in all seriousness you probably should have seen that coming in all honesty

@XiremaXesirin

22 күн бұрын

Those two are not surprising to me. The Ms Mowz text storage could cause the game to hard-crash back to the OS, and the Early Blue Key glitch could result in broken, soft-locked save files. They might have had interesting sequence break potential, but they're way too dangerous to leave in the game.

@rontheauraknight9606

22 күн бұрын

@@XiremaXesirin yeah if you want to see both of those in action fatguy703 who is an mostly paper Mario KZreadr showed them off both how you can fully softlock yourself with the key and the mowz glitch causing an crash

@InsulinRunner

22 күн бұрын

Man, speedrunning new games must be a nightmare with these patches that thwart all your time and hard work spent.

Something you always do on videos and I think its kinda presumptuous to assume stuff like "the evil devs did something just to stop the speedrunners!" but no its just most likely that the game was better programmed for the sake of optimization and allow for the better visuals, I doubt they cared about leaving skips in or out as you can see by the palace loading zone still being there when it could be easily removed

@SonicSanctuary

22 күн бұрын

@@Yamartim see this is what I was saying

@theblackgamer8103

22 күн бұрын

If cutting the frame rate in half is "better programming" then sure

@Yamartim

22 күн бұрын

@@theblackgamer8103 better programming is not only about improving framerate smartass

@Yamartim

22 күн бұрын

@@theblackgamer8103 better programming is not just about framerates, try coding something that looks half as good as ttyd does on the switch and runs at even 30fps and then come back to tell me if it was easy

@aliasella488

18 күн бұрын

Not all bugs are useful either, take that infamous late game softlock in The Origami King as an example.

I just wish somebody could find a way to bring back the Flavio glitch. 😂

I really appreciate the dedication speedrunners take to learn all the ins and outs of a game they love and the techniques they employ to find glitches and exploits that work towards their speedrun, but it is becoming increasingly more noticeable that there are some extremists who actively shame developers or believe a game is worse off simply because the developers fixed an unintended glitch or mechanic in their game. It's thanks to content creators that some speedrun games even fall on my radar or that I learn something new about a game I love, but on the flipside if a content creator speaks critically on a game for fixing glitches, many dedicated fans flock to this concept that fixing issues in a game is problematic and ruins the game and yet we've seen how a poorly optimized or play-tested game can lead to glitches that outright ruin a game's experience. Fallout 76, the first release of Cyberpunk 2077, we can't speak ill of these games for being poorly play-tested or unplayable due to glitches and then talk down a different game for fixing glitches. I won't blame a content creator for the way others may behave, but I do believe it's important to be conscious how a video's marketing warps a viewer's image on speedrunning/glitches/patches/etc. I really wish there was a lot less of "unfortunately the developer's patched this" or "this was fixed for no good reason" and more of "this glitch was patched so NOW we need to do this instead." Less villainizing bug fixes.

Glad to see Nintendo and IS care enough about the game to give us a cleaner experience, but I have no doubt new skips will be found over the next few years. Just gonna take the same sort of innovative thinking that found the original skips.

@P.H691

23 күн бұрын

Nintendo might not like it though. Future patches might patch any glitches or exploits speed runners use

@shinigamimiroku3723

23 күн бұрын

@@P.H691 If they do, then c'est la vie. It's their right to make sure they provide the highest quality game they can, and catering to a tiny percentage of the gaming population is not the best way to generate a positive company image. Granted, it's better than catering to a tiny percentage of the world population that will never buy your games anyway, but that's a different conversation anyway...

@ProjectionProjects2.7182

22 күн бұрын

@@shinigamimiroku3723 But why though? Why bother patching glitches that no one would see in normal gameplay anyway? Im not sure if patching fun glitches "improves the quality".

@shinigamimiroku3723

22 күн бұрын

@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 Can you guarantee that "no one would ever see them in normal gameplay?" Personally, I'd like to think I'd be rather salty getting stuck in a dead zone without a way to get myself unstuck just because I happened to hit a wall at a specific angle, or perhaps bypassed a loading zone without even knowing how it happened (this has happened to me before - not in TTYD specifically, but in another RPG). See, speedrunners are looking for such things specifically because they have the necessary patience to look beyond, but glitches and the like are not always found by them (the tower skip in MGS1 comes to mind immediately, which thankfully for the player didn't result in a softlock).

@ProjectionProjects2.7182

22 күн бұрын

​@@shinigamimiroku3723 Well it depends on the glitch in question. Not al glitches result in soft locks and many in a lot of games can be difficult and precise to pull off making it impossible for a player to just accidentally do it. It would be better to look at each glitch on a case by case bases and determine which ones are most likely to hurt the player and which ones are least likely. There is no way that EVERY glitch they patched was likely for the player to stumble across by complete accident and can soft lock the player. I imagine that many of the glitches patched were pretty harmless. My point is that not glitches are equal and some are just fun and best left alone.

This is just my opinion as someone who doesn't speedrun, but I really don't understand how Nintendo patching glitches hurts speedrunners. Sure, it increases the time needed to beat the game, but that doesn't mean anything in a vacuum. If the fun of speedrunning comes from finding new methods and optimizing those methods, shouldn't it not matter if old glitches get patched? After all, once the glitch is found and optimized, it stops being interesting. Fixing glitches opens more room for new exploits to be discovered, which I feel makes it more fun anyway. To be a good game for speedrunning, a game should have a high skill ceiling-not just be short or easy to break.

@tobyzilla

19 күн бұрын

Not really it gets frustrating for speedruners and I'm not really a speedruner but I like the idea of speedruns

@life-destiny1196

15 күн бұрын

It kinda depends on what's being skipped or removed. I say this as an observer of speedruns who hasn't really had an excuse to participate yet. Say your platforming game has a long autoscroller in it. Speedrunners and/or other glitch hunter types discover a way to bypass the autoscroller, perhaps by using some technique to break out of bounds. Ten years later, you're working on a remake for said game for newer hardware. Here's the decision you have to make: If you leave that OOB in the game, it may have applications in other levels that could have dire consequences. A casual player might discover the technique, possibly even by accident, only to encounter story content out of order, or softlock, or ruin their save file. It'd be better for the mainstream audience if they couldn't accidentally run into something like that. If you patch that OOB, however, the players now have to play through the long autoscroller. To be entirely honest with yourself, it wasn't your most inspired level, and you only really did it that way to either pad the play time or avert some other technical issue. Having it in the game might make replays frustrating--which is extra relevant since some percentage of players of the remake have already played the level in the original game. Leaving the OOB in creates something cool for people to talk about when the game releases, driving engagement. Patching it leads to frustration from players, who now feel that the remake is worse than the original for forcing you through the annoying long autoscroller level. If you instead make more drastic changes to the level, like speeding up the autoscroller or redesigning the level entirely so it doesn't need to be one, you are arguably not really faithfully adapting the game. More importantly, doing that takes development resources. Games take a lot of time and money to make, and it has to be spent wisely. Maybe reworking that level comes at the cost of a cool boss rush mode you were gonna add, something like that. IDK, I'm not really privy to the specifics here. In general, being able to skip parts of the game that are relatively uninteresting on repeat playthroughs is a good thing--stuff like cutscenes and autoscrollers. It may even create new challenges for your more diehard fans (see the SGDQ 2024 run of Destiny, where a six-player raid was run by a solo player). On the other hand, that can't come at the cost of the quality of the game for everyone else. tl;dr, it depends, like most things in life.

@watercrystals9744

8 күн бұрын

the thing is, not all speedrunners are glitch hunters and vice versa a lot of games just aren't that fun to speedrun if you're basically just doing a casual playthrough at a brisk pace, and rpgs are notoriously long games which makes them pretty unfriendly to speedrun in general because finding the time to sit down and play for 5+ hours just isn't that realistic given that most people have full time commitments like higher levels of education or employment, so these games inevitably have smaller communities glitch hunting is a really tedious and time consuming process and there's a much higher likelihood nothing you do ever results in anything than actually discovering something, let alone something significant, and it isn't going to help your motivation if there's not that many people even interested in playing the game to begin with

I appreciate the length of the video

I'm confused. How does the Hello Fresh subscription activate the skip? Is there some kind of integration in the console it leverages?

I’d expect that as a remake built from nothing basically all glitches would have been patched

Me at the start: "Neat! They patched a glitch which is used a lot in speedruns. I a certain sense, it's a sign that they know and care for the game" Me at the end: "Damn they were feeling petty during development"

@toumabyakuya

23 күн бұрын

I mean, is Nintendo truly responsible for maintaining in glitches that speedrunners use when making remakes?.

@maskettaman1488

23 күн бұрын

@@toumabyakuya No, but it's clear they went out of their way to shut down this specific subset of players. It's how they handle all of their games.

@toumabyakuya

23 күн бұрын

@@maskettaman1488 Because, the less glitches a game has, the best it will be in the eyes of the casuals.

@maskettaman1488

23 күн бұрын

@@toumabyakuya So you're saying that people dislike games like OOT now because of the crazy glitches that people figured out? Gotta say I think you're totally wrong. Games that have been broken wide open are some of the most popular. No one is genuinely out there saying a game like OOT is now bad because people figured out that's possible to skip a barrier with enough frame perfect inputs lmao

@toumabyakuya

23 күн бұрын

@@maskettaman1488 That's not what I said. I did say "in the eyes of the casuals", what casual is gonna care that a teleport-skip was patched?. Also, they are only that popular when they are broken too much. Thousand Years Door doesn't meet that requirement.

Ms Mowz has some form of text storage glitch now but the game crashes if you pick up any item. Fatguy703 has a small video about messing around with it. There's probably not much for real major speedrunning skips though.

@AWMonopolyMan

23 күн бұрын

I also think Nintendo patched it out as well

I think they made a good choice only hard patching the teleporter, and not hard patching any of the other skips, only the glitches that allowed you to get to them. The teleporter allows skipping to near the end of the game, meanwhile all the other skips just allow you to skip at most a single area, and the whole no backtracking thing makes it so there's risk reward to various paths, possibly making it so there's not one inherently best path to go down.

I wonder if when they remake games do they look at documented glitches in speedruns and stuff and specifically try to make all tnose glitches go away.

@Gwynhyvr

22 күн бұрын

can't vouch for remakes, but i have heard of some games (specifics evade me) that were patched exclusively to prevent speedrunning tricks and glitches, and people stopped running/playing them in more than a few cases. even if Ninten patches HD to oblivion and back... we still have the OG and Dolphin!

TTYD HD may not be as broken as the original (yet), but everyone can agree Goombella is the best!

We broke it once we can break it again

It's always fun for speedrunning when a game gets a remake/remaster because it's like getting a new puzzle for old technique. Players get to use their existing knowledge for a new challenge. And the old challenge is always still there. It's a win-win imo. Metroid Prime Remastered, Wind Waker HD, Mario RPG Remake, these are all great new speedgames with alternate routes.

The issue is nobody has found too many glitches yet 😂

Kinda reminds of TEVI on Story Mode. That game is so tightly locked down that if you try to do anything remotely out of order, bosses and cutscenes will refuse to work, even to the game's detriment and has already caused known softlocks because of it. A boss in Chapter 7 in that game could be skipped by accident, but because every boss and cutscene has pre-reqs usually referencing the previous event (intentionally), it'd break and lock you in the boss room with no way out. Even if you did bypass that, a boss later in the game references every single boss before it and refuses to spawn, intentionally making the final area of the game very buggy and preventing the final bosses from spawning because they also reference this boss that checks everything before it. This is in a metroidvania for some reason.

I actually like this. The same game, but will require wildly different strategies by speedrunners. Maybe even new skips undiscovered or simply unnecessary in the original

I think you've managed to make one of the best thumbnails in this genre, 10/10 keep it up

@Abyssoft

23 күн бұрын

Hot Cyder does my thumbnails, I just send mock ups and he brings them to life

It’ll take time, but I’m sure they’ll find a way to do these glitches eventually. Maybe even better ones.

Awesome! Jump storage is still in there, meaning prologue pit of 100 trials is possible. Did I read that correctly?

Great video! Would love to see more TTYD content :)

if speedrunners and speedrunning have taught me anything; 1. physical is always 1.0 2. we'll always have originals and emulation

@sultan_3864

21 күн бұрын

Or js dont have auto update on. Doesnt matter if you have a physical or digital.

@gamingwithahandicapreviews

18 күн бұрын

Just don’t have auto updates on. Now I always support physical even if I buy a second digital copy for convenience

Inevitably a video like this means we’re going to have some insane break in the next 3 months

I wonder how the game handles using the home menu for buffering. Most likely, it contains to run in the background, but sometimes games will keep going through some scenes so something might be possible there. Although most likely it won't help, but I think thinking outside the box is probably what's going to happen here to find something.

While i am generally against patching out glitches only used by speedrunners that hurt nobody, the language used by people went talking about glitches as “careless and hilarious blunders”, like the early blue key. I could easily imagine a video 20 years ago (if they existed back then) calling the fact that the teleporter is fully accessible if you can get through a major blunder or similar. Its an interesting perspective on these sorts of things, i think.

Taking a moment to say love your channel dude. Abyssoft Z!

Man I wish stryder would come back from the dead and do some hunting around

@bwink4709

21 күн бұрын

miss his content... but theres a reason hes offline

@IntelliPocalypse

20 күн бұрын

@@bwink4709 yeah some drama with an ex that he won an argument against. There was also something else in discord about an anorexia problem. We don’t know what he looks like, so idk how true that one is. Anyway, it’d be nice to see his return to play the new TTYD, but who knows if he is even alive. Just how things go I guess

@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771

19 күн бұрын

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@bwink4709

19 күн бұрын

@@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771 comment above is the context

3:43 What method did you use to get to the blimp there or was it just the spring jump storage?

I don't know if it's in the video but, ultrahammer early has been found.

Ah. I finally realized where I know that song from. Starts at 1:07. If I'm not mistaken, that's from Steamworld Dig 2. The town theme, I think.

@Abyssoft

22 күн бұрын

Original track by novadrome

@camwyn256

22 күн бұрын

​@Abyssoft that's cool. Totally dig it and Steamworld Dig 2, so it making me think of that wonderful game is a good thing

The only Speedrunning I have ever tried is Kotor as a kid when it came out. They were one of the first to have your Time to Beat prominently in your Save. I started trying to beat it faster and faster. Nothing really caught my attention to want to try other than Halo back when it was new also. 34 feels like being an old man at times.

wildly pessimistic video title, remember we had like 20 years to figure out TTYD, the game was out for like 16 years before we found TRE in the US version, and it was around that time we figured out blimp ticket skip. this game hasn't been broken yet, it's also been out for like two months, people will keep looking and, given the number of glitches we've found so far, it seems like this game getting broken is inevitable, it's just going to take a bit before it happens

Well this is a remake so there’s 20 years of QA testing by people with too much free time

Just pointing out, Eppe wasn’t the one who found out you can clip through floor panel with yoshi it was actually Glitchy//, and Sirius isn’t the one who found the yoshi clip in front of deepdown depot I did :)

This is something I’ll never understand with remakes. Most of the speedrun related glitches are only possible if you do them intentionally so there’s no reason to get rid of them. I’ll never update my copy cause I’m keeping Blue Key skip and Mowz Storage, they didn’t even add faster text to compensate.

Every time you make the video 13:37 long, I see what you're doing there lol Seriously though, another great video!

@Abyssoft

23 күн бұрын

100% a coincidence, I didn't realize it until you mentioned it.

Lmao!!!! This is wonderful, its like 7 years worth of glitches found in just one month!

Im glad i beat soul caliber 2 blindfolded in under 1 minute in IGT

This game looks great, I might play it

Hardly call the key thing the biggest blunder. Lots of games do stuff like that, instant one that comes to mind was something i found as a below average intelligence kid in SpongeBob SquarePants battle for bikini bottom. Which was that there was a boss fight end teigger above the starting location. Being stupid and not understanding what i needed to do, i just kept doing all the moves and accidentally bubble bashed (i think. The jump thing) while the platform i was standing on was getting chopped and therefore spun. Ended the fight and was so confused 😂 like "wow i beat it. I guess. Right? Maybe? Is this how every boss fight feels to normal kids?..."

0:17 Oh, it does? I thought it was made from the ground up 0:31 ah, SOME parts, interesting...

Pretty good game design I must say.

ROFL @ blue key glitch. That was indeed funny.

I'm a game dev and have a lot of friends in QA. I'm glad they're fixing bugs and glitches. I get that it can be interesting for speedrunners to discover and exploit glitches, but that shouldn't mean the devs can't improve their game's general experience for your average player.

@tobyzilla

19 күн бұрын

But at the end of the day the average player wouldn't even use any of these glitches

@andeggbreaks

17 күн бұрын

@@tobyzilla if a speedrunner can do it on purpose a casual can find it by accident

Give it time

this is gonna be like twwhd all over again. it's gonna get broken sooner or later

Oh wow!!!!!

I wonder how many bugs were. result of running on 32bit cpu vs 64bit

Quality as always

6:45 Carbon, collector of Keys

Did you try Hazard respond glitch

This remake made me look back at the series... and then I realized that they'd always been papercraft the entire time, or at least since Thousand Year Door. I was just fooled into thinking otherwise because of the artstyle. But when you look at the dragons, the truth reveals itself.

Give them a minute, damn.. they had over a decade to play around with the original.

this guy cant stop getting sponsored by shady companies 😂

I beat 6 different fighting games blindfolded

...YET.

SM64 Shindou is nothing compared to TTYD remake!

Ok so I haven't watched the whole video cause I wanted to get this out as soon as I thought of it: didn't people find badge duplication within a few weeks? And the game isn't too old yet, there's still chances to find skips, right?

@17Master

18 күн бұрын

Gotta cash in on riling up the masses and vilifying Nintendo BEFORE too much new tech is discovered

The time on this video is "leet" 1337!

God I just finished this game its so good

@AidanDaGreat

23 күн бұрын

I know right

@tobyzilla

19 күн бұрын

But you know it runs at 30 fps while the original ran at 60

it doesn't surprise me they worked on fixing bugs and exploits.

@DonutSwordsman

22 күн бұрын

It's surprising because they took unnecessary steps to block certain things

8 hours! Seems like i beat it faster than that

They uh.... they found badge duplication

@user-od2qc2od1y

22 күн бұрын

Might not be useful for speedrunning though aside from making killing enemies much quicker then intended

0:55 a user named Solidifiedgaming has made a video of a credit warp run, and altough not it's humanly possible, the original game can be beaten in like 22 minuten

0:30 I noticed the Chinese word

Give it some time

Interesting analysis video! Thanks for uploading! It'll be interesting to see how the speedrun for this develops.

It would be extremely funny if Nintendo patched the glitches out

@Abyssoft

20 күн бұрын

The day this video went up they released a patch and fixed blue key early

@TheGreatVoicemancer

20 күн бұрын

@@Abyssoft oh my fucking god that's amazing.

13:37 nice

Awesome

Do yall remember stryder7x tho? Miss that guy

Wait how do you get gold mario???

@bobbob1876

22 күн бұрын

100% the game. All recipes, tattles, badges

It's Legends Arceus all over again!

Ive never beat paper Mario

Dude, the game just came out, a bit quick to say what's on the Title.

I think we've seen enough games in our lives that we can't say this game is unbreakable. It could be something we haven't discovered in the Original that could apply in the remake ans vice-versa. Who knows. The game is still young. Let it cook. 👍

Sequel Ruined: not enough bugs

It has been less than a month. Js.

The trick with the Blue Key just got patched out on the update last night for the game (MoonlitChris confirmed it) No fun allowed :(

@peco595

22 күн бұрын

That one is a very realistically possible mistake to encounter by a casual player. One accidental or otherwise unnecessary use of Koops there and bam, sequence ruined. That fix maintains the fun for anyone playing casually that might have run into it

@skittlecrows

22 күн бұрын

@@peco595 very true. I was real certain they would patch this one anyways. Since you can soft lock your whole file with it

Why do so many of those clips have Frankly as a party member?

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