Why can't Phoenix attack Nikola Jokic's defense?

Спорт

Nikola Jokic was supposed to limit Denver's defensive success, but the Nuggets have locked down the Suns in the first two games? How? Why can't Phoenix exploit Jokic's defense? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report breaks down the Nuggets defensive tactics, and why Coach Michael Malone, Aaron Gordon, Kentavius Caldwell-Pope, Bruce Brown and others have use horizontal quickness to slow down Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and the Phoenix Suns.
Support at Patreon: / thinkingbasketball
Book: www.amazon.com/Thinking-Baske...
Podcast: player.fm/series/thinking-bas... or at www.stitcher.com/podcast/ben-...
Website: www.backpicks.com
Twitter: @elgee35
Ben Taylor is the author of Thinking Basketball, a Nylon Calculus contributor, creator of the Backpicks Top 40 series & host of the Thinking Basketball podcast.
Stats courtesy:
www.pbpstats.com @bballport
www.basketball-reference.com
stats.nba.com
-----
Footage in this video is owned by the NBA and its partners. It is intended for critique and education.
Music by Didekbeats (Nemesis)
#ThinkingBasketball

Пікірлер: 1 200

  • @DammitBobby
    @DammitBobby Жыл бұрын

    Wait, so you're telling me Brown, Braun, and KCP are better defenders than Facu, Rivers, and Barton? I was told by everyone for years now that it didn't make a difference and it was all Jokic's fault for Denver not having good defense. 🤷

  • @xavierb9061

    @xavierb9061

    Жыл бұрын

    Suns havent played enough together lots holes to attack

  • @DammitBobby

    @DammitBobby

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xavierb9061 funny because before the series started 90% of people were picking the suns claiming they would "spam pickleroll on Jokic to death".

  • @DammitBobby

    @DammitBobby

    Жыл бұрын

    @ByzantineHistoryFan I'm not rewriting NOTHING. it's a FACT most people who aren't inside nuggets circles were picking Phoenix, SPECIFICALLY because of Denvers and Jokic's supposed defensive short comings.

  • @xavierb9061

    @xavierb9061

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DammitBobby i said this..lol.. start of each game pnr leads to easy ayton scores then it disappears. Suns havent played enough to adjust to when denver adjusts.

  • @BlizzardEditzz7

    @BlizzardEditzz7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DammitBobby I picked Denver to win in 5 but I live in Denver and watched 80 games so ig I don’t count

  • @JuztBillz
    @JuztBillz Жыл бұрын

    “They’ll put him in a million pick & rolls”

  • @rams3737

    @rams3737

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro they're playing kd and booker, both of whom are natural second options, what do you expect from them?

  • @jayjolley9258

    @jayjolley9258

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@rams3737 Kevin durant is a second option !?

  • @maap8998

    @maap8998

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jayjolley9258 I don’t know what that guy’s cooking I can’t lie

  • @taku5309

    @taku5309

    Жыл бұрын

    @@maap8998 hahaha whatever he's cooking is wild

  • @younghighflyers145

    @younghighflyers145

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jayjolley9258 he saying his mentality is that of a second option. He just stands around and let’s other cook when often he needs to take over the game if he’s supposed to be the best player on the team

  • @Teenieweeniemussolini
    @Teenieweeniemussolini Жыл бұрын

    The ironic thing is you switch the teams and jokic destroys the other team making that skip pass every time

  • @kaseemburr4825

    @kaseemburr4825

    Жыл бұрын

    Against the Lakers I'm sure they'll give AD that assignment and shouldn't have to double him

  • @ye.ha.8378

    @ye.ha.8378

    Жыл бұрын

    And Vanderbilt on Jamal if only the nuggets didn't trade Vanderbilt they could have the best defense in the league

  • @billpham632

    @billpham632

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ye.ha.8378 If we didn't trade Vanderbilt, we probably would've never traded for Gordon and I like Gordon more as a player. He does a lot of the dirty work on this team

  • @lucasniland

    @lucasniland

    Жыл бұрын

    lebron making that skip pass everytime if they match up next round the real question will be if the lakers will be able to hit the 3 ball at a consistent clip

  • @ye.ha.8378

    @ye.ha.8378

    Жыл бұрын

    @@billpham632 Not true. if the nuggets whould have known how good he is they wouldn't have traded him they whould have given something else for Gordon by the way Tim Connelly traded him from the Timberwolves as wall he definitely didn't like him

  • @tere0075
    @tere0075 Жыл бұрын

    This feels like a suns problem. They had same problem with Dallas last year when they blew a 2-0 lead, they can't make a skip pass and other teams blow up their pick and roll offense as a result, which forces them to rely on a relatively inefficient iso offense.

  • @captainmarvelous7678

    @captainmarvelous7678

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand why CP can't make some of these passes. He's supposed to be one of the best passers ever. It's a moot point now that he's out for the rest of the series though.

  • @jasonmonroe9018

    @jasonmonroe9018

    Жыл бұрын

    @@captainmarvelous7678 he’s too small. Skip passes require you to get the ball over the top and if your hedged by Jokic who has a foot (more if you count wingspan) on him he just can’t reliably get ur roads over the top without a deflection.

  • @xavierb9061

    @xavierb9061

    Жыл бұрын

    Monty

  • @caydenrichmond9551

    @caydenrichmond9551

    Жыл бұрын

    @@captainmarvelous7678 he definitely used to, but the ball isn’t in his hands as much anymore plus he’s 38 with a ton of leg injuries, so if he gets doubled (considering his size) it’s hard to pass out of it

  • @erikletendre7512

    @erikletendre7512

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea and now they got one shooter to target a skip pass with compared to 2 in Johnson and Bridges. At this point all they (KD and Booker) can do is attack the rim as much as they can and have open shooters knock down their shots (Lee, Shamet, Payne, ross and warren if monty cared to use them :/) and have Ayton crash the glass (a complete tossup each night). When it's so obvious to the nuggets that the midrange is the game they can plan around that and even then, apply some decent coverage to those shots which KD bricked after brick. There's been zero craftiness in the playcalling from Monty. Stagnant ISO play. When they're clicking and making those shots ofc its fun but its simply not sustainable enough and adjustments have to be made. Hard to be a fan of the team after so long but it is what it is

  • @flstep835
    @flstep835 Жыл бұрын

    Oh my, Mike Malone is brilliant! It really sounds like a headache to arrange this whole system

  • @LaughingJokerProd

    @LaughingJokerProd

    Жыл бұрын

    It honesty sounds like it needs a lot of communication on the player's side, knowing whos where and Phoenix not having a crazy passer like Jokic. If the midrange is where the suns make their points, then they've cut it off from them.

  • @pedromoreira2875

    @pedromoreira2875

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LaughingJokerProd the crazy part is that the cross pass that is required to beat this coverage isn't anything new. Most play-off teams are able to do it (as long as they aren't small players like CP3 which in his prime was able to do it but not now). This is a very exclusive Phoenix problem that wasn't adress since last post season. This was the main reason that Dallas outcoach them last season.

  • @elmehdinafia1237

    @elmehdinafia1237

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pedromoreira2875 lol you tripping! Few players in the league that can make these skip passes across the court. It’s a really risky pass to make especially if you’re a 6’2 guard..the only players that make it consistently are guys like Luka and bron cuz they huge and are great passers..Booker or KD will never pull this off cuz they not like that.

  • @ylew456

    @ylew456

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elmehdinafia1237and Jokic... Jokic can make that pass.

  • @darnellwilliams8783

    @darnellwilliams8783

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@elmehdinafia1237these denver refs were terri ke suns in 6

  • @RokuDragoon
    @RokuDragoon Жыл бұрын

    At least booker knows what he should be practicing thousand of times right now, that 45 foot skip pass 🤣

  • @ubadman1
    @ubadman1 Жыл бұрын

    Basically the nuggets in theory could run this defense vs the Lakers but vs the warrios it would be a rough seires. This post season is an interesting study on basketball theory vs execution in Phoenix vs Denver and wariros vs Lakers. East is just wierd imo.

  • @tridra5714

    @tridra5714

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't see how this would work against the Lakers when their role players are good shooter and they have excellent passers. You can't leave the skip pass because lebron, dlo and Dennis would hit that with ease not to mention the AD postup is just a much better option then an ayton postup or pick and roll.

  • @user-sh7fr9wj1h

    @user-sh7fr9wj1h

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tridra5714 schroder isn’t making anything with ease he’s not like that💀

  • @StripedJacket

    @StripedJacket

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-sh7fr9wj1h Rui, Dlo, Austin Even LBJ who sucks at shooting rn can make some on a good night Packing the paint makes it so AD won’t have to expend energy on offense & can focus on Defense

  • @tj5180

    @tj5180

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-sh7fr9wj1h have u been watching the playoffs. Dennis isn't a elite shooter by any means but he can hit those shots

  • @LoganNagol

    @LoganNagol

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t think it works as well with Lebron being so talented at making those skip passes. As well as AD being one of the best lob threats. Plus AD is a far better rebounder than Ayton which means Jokic won’t drop back as much

  • @Mrfostie
    @Mrfostie Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ben. Your videos have really shown me how important scheme matchups and personnel matchups are to success.

  • @ghosttheripper8656

    @ghosttheripper8656

    Жыл бұрын

    Really made me appreciate coaches / coordinators a lot more.

  • @Por-poI

    @Por-poI

    Жыл бұрын

    True. A superstar going off might win a game or two, but its the personnel that surrounds them that guarantees success. Getting swept doesnt just mean the opponent choking but a result of careful planning and adaptation.

  • @dutchmilk

    @dutchmilk

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Por-poI logic answer which many people will not and do not want to accept. "Sports" fan like hyperpole narrative. it is easier for their simple brain to accept gangster language "choking" than planning, details and execution.

  • @narukami597

    @narukami597

    Жыл бұрын

    The guy isn't making videos as a favor to society so no need to thank him.

  • @Infinityflow0
    @Infinityflow0 Жыл бұрын

    I've said it before but I love how you highlight the nuances. Its a chess match. It might not pay off every play, but it shows throughout the course of the game. This is why coaching is super important and underrated.

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a lot of this in the playoffs because match ups are a thing and teams have to show adaptations, or get sunk being exploited of their weakness.

  • @draco747

    @draco747

    11 ай бұрын

    I don’t think coaching is underrated, because a bad coach always gets exposed in playoffs, it’s under-appreciated.

  • @dvijay461
    @dvijay461 Жыл бұрын

    Its interesting coming back and watching this when Miami is trying the hedge defense with Bam

  • @back2back379
    @back2back379 Жыл бұрын

    This Nuggets team reminds me so much of the past great Spurs. A dominant big, great ball movement, excellent coordinated team defense. It’s like a remix of those Spurs.

  • @Jj-ry9yw

    @Jj-ry9yw

    Жыл бұрын

    they play great team ball that’s why it remind of the spurs expect jokic is best passing big man ever

  • @bryladam
    @bryladam Жыл бұрын

    So the Suns traded all those players for KD, but they're still stuck with the same problems they had last playoffs vs Mavs? Man.

  • @theokingshango

    @theokingshango

    Жыл бұрын

    all teams are wise until they smell a superstar

  • @ThanosHelicopter

    @ThanosHelicopter

    Жыл бұрын

    Durant also having the same problems he encountered against Boston last year…

  • @ryanmahon2956

    @ryanmahon2956

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's see what happens over the off-season. I think the media didn't do them any favors bc they shouldn't have been called contenders. But picking up a couple of guys and having a year to work with them might do the trick

  • @NickMac30

    @NickMac30

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryanmahon2956 how they gonna pick up guys with the new cba rules

  • @CosmicVortex27
    @CosmicVortex27 Жыл бұрын

    They have to attack the hedge. The slow dribble around the PnR works when there is a switch or a drop, but against a hedge you have to go fast and attack it. Either getting around it or through it for a layup or foul, or forcing a switch due to the speed and intensity.

  • @ratcomedy

    @ratcomedy

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts, they gotta get to the rim if they want a chance

  • @scruffythejanitor1969

    @scruffythejanitor1969

    Жыл бұрын

    The weird thing is that Durant just doesn't look like he has the gas to do it. Everytime I was expecting him to try and blow past Jok and at least try to draw a foul, but he would take a step, hesitate, then be forced to reset.

  • @KimWe-a-xler

    @KimWe-a-xler

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting take my brother. This might actually work. What do you of setting tighter PnRs within the 3-pt arc so Ayton can be used more around the rim?

  • @LILCHEESE99

    @LILCHEESE99

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the thing the suns really don't want to do tho, because if they already have their starters going for 40-45 minutes each game, they want them to play those minutes at a steady pace and not sprinting around all the time. They are already struggling vs the nuggets bench, and if they try to push the pace too much, they might just sign their own death warrant because Denver can have rotations with guys running that much, but the suns can't.

  • @forthe3136

    @forthe3136

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scruffythejanitor1969 KD also doesn’t have the cleanest handle to be able to dribble through traffic so he’s probably just fearful of turning the ball over because the nuggets are always gonna have at least 2 defenders reach on him

  • @LoganNagol
    @LoganNagol Жыл бұрын

    I also think this defensive scheme maximizes Jokic in putting him in the best position to secure rebounds off miss mid range shots. Just the way the nuggets defenders attack the suns almost forces the cutter who is trying to secure the offensive rebound directly into Jokic boxing out. And since Jokic is such a great rebounder he is pretty much always going to win that. Even if it’s Ayton.

  • @uberneanderthal

    @uberneanderthal

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, must be the scheme. i'm sure they could just plug Shawn Bradley in Jokic's spot and he'd do just as well 🙄🙄

  • @LoganNagol

    @LoganNagol

    Жыл бұрын

    @@uberneanderthal tf you talking about? I’m not saying the scheme is what makes Jokic a great rebounder. Im saying the scheme only works with a great rebounder 🤣🤣

  • @musclecarenjoyer

    @musclecarenjoyer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LoganNagol nikola was robbed of mvp and this proves it Joel embiid just had a stinker vs the Celtics 15-3-0 in 27 minutes

  • @NothingElseMattersJM

    @NothingElseMattersJM

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LoganNagol Lots or uncontested defensive rebounds

  • @pedromoreira2875

    @pedromoreira2875

    Жыл бұрын

    @@musclecarenjoyer bro injured himself in the the playoffs so you throw away everything he did in the regular season? Seems like recency bias to me.

  • @vvkth2500
    @vvkth2500 Жыл бұрын

    the answer is, Jokic is a very high IQ player, and it applies to defense as well. this year he has the squad to make good defensive plays.

  • @forthe3136

    @forthe3136

    Жыл бұрын

    Jokic is definitely doing a solid job in his defensive role but the stars on Denver’s defense gotta be the perimeter guys that are instantly sliding over to pick up ayton and then instantly sliding to contest the 3pt line. If the perimeter guys don’t bust their ass trying to guard multiple players at once then Jokic doesn’t get to roam and help

  • @vvkth2500

    @vvkth2500

    Жыл бұрын

    @@forthe3136 yes, definitely. AG, Bruce Brown and KCP are a massive upgrade, Porter has significantly improved in all facets of the game even though he can be sometimes disconnected, which is just a thing of experience. but my MVP hat goes to the rook, Christian Braun.. he is phenomenal, played this defense throughout all season. bro locked up Kevin F Durant.

  • @dresantana7157

    @dresantana7157

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Papellxhase suns adjusted in game 3 but as a suns fan we don’t have shooters. They can literally stack the lane double Kd or book let the other guys try to make shots. Ayton sucks so they don’t have to focus on much. If the suns get deeper in the following years it will be a problem

  • @docd0071

    @docd0071

    Жыл бұрын

    I noticed Jokic is directing traffic on defense. He knows what plays will be done.

  • @vvkth2500

    @vvkth2500

    Жыл бұрын

    @@docd0071 yes bruh, for years now he's pushing guards to get to position quicker, etc. he's been instructing since his 3rd year in the league basically.

  • @karimalgharaballi5669
    @karimalgharaballi5669 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing analysis! honestly seeing someone dive this deep into a series and provide so much analysis makes me wonder why anyone watches ESPN anymore. In 8 mins you’ve provided more insight than any of the so-called analysts on TV. Nothing there but hot takes from people that clearly don’t watch the game. Keep up the great work!

  • @yvonne2965

    @yvonne2965

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @Woody13woodpecker

    @Woody13woodpecker

    10 ай бұрын

    LOL, he's not yelling, so I'm not watching!

  • @iambarryallen
    @iambarryallen Жыл бұрын

    Rockets fan here. So happy for Uncle Jeff Green, hope Denver wins this year. Former Rockets legend🎉

  • @thomaslequesne5475
    @thomaslequesne5475 Жыл бұрын

    Basically Denver's defense works because the Suns lack passing and 3 points shooting. I'm curious to see if it would hold against the Warriors (assuming they beat the Lakers of course)

  • @Navvye

    @Navvye

    Жыл бұрын

    Lakers in 6

  • @JackahoonaLaGuna

    @JackahoonaLaGuna

    Жыл бұрын

    Lakers in 5

  • @jstn7711

    @jstn7711

    Жыл бұрын

    Lakers in 4

  • @bramlangenhuijsen8499

    @bramlangenhuijsen8499

    Жыл бұрын

    Warriors in 3

  • @MsKarl101

    @MsKarl101

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Navvye Warriors in 7. Lakers look really good though.

  • @jonjojr
    @jonjojr Жыл бұрын

    this tells me that Ayton is treated like a role player by Denver. They don't respect him at all. Look how many times Ayton is left completely alone in the paint or sliding to the paint. Without Ayton becoming a scoring threat, Suns can get 🧹

  • @MrSnotrock3t
    @MrSnotrock3t Жыл бұрын

    "Living with a Damion Lee 3" is about the most infuriating thing ever for us Suns fans. Absolutely HAVE to get these guys shooting/making more threes. In addition, Ayton needs to be shooting a few 3PAs from the top of the key every game to keep defenses honest - that and eliminate the low-effort rebounding from his game.

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem is not getting these guys more shots. The problem is relying on these role players shooting 44% 3-ball at a low clip in the regular season and expecting it to carry over in the playoffs. If you actually think going 9-10 deep to buy baskets because your super stars can't is a sound idea, there is a reason why Monty only wins the regular season but gets brutally outcoached in the postseason.

  • @LagmasterB

    @LagmasterB

    Жыл бұрын

    @@t4d0W this man gets it

  • @awesomeninja234
    @awesomeninja234 Жыл бұрын

    Also give jokic some credit for being level on the screen. He is adapting and adjusting his defense throughout the playoffs so far. While he may not joel embijd blocking shots everywhere, his awareness and iq allows him to read the ball handler eyes and force turnovers if they think too much. Plus, he knows most to all of the plays phoenix is running, so he knows the technique to defend them, so he tells his teammates the best way to defend off ball cuts and screens.

  • @kgtd2160
    @kgtd2160 Жыл бұрын

    This was also what happened in the Minnesota series. The nuggs are so good at doubling and then recovering it was extremely frustrating to watch them make the right defensive rotations every possession and force KAT to choke the ball up. Just shows how important it is to have role players that can shoot and packing the paint to a degree still is a viable option against certain matchups. I'm glad the nuggs are showing how good they are when they're fully healthy and also pretty satisfied the wolves were able to hang on in the majority of games they played (with the exception of game 1) even without some key players. Hope Jokic wins the chip this year to make up for losing out on the MVP award.

  • @ryanmahon2956

    @ryanmahon2956

    Жыл бұрын

    The Twolves were a tough out. People won't give them enough credit but they showed up for sure

  • @jigga4343

    @jigga4343

    Жыл бұрын

    They did great denying Gobert's lobs, too. Jokic would guard Gobert and once they sense the lob coming MPJ or uncle Jeff would leap in and kill the lob. Denver actually bulit a great defense system to go along with their insane offensive system.

  • @underpressure07140

    @underpressure07140

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryanmahon2956 Ant showed up, and Gobert did what he was supposed to do. Can't say the same about KAT...

  • @yomomshouse100
    @yomomshouse100 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing work and breakdown. As someone who was extremely skeptical of Nikolas defense, I cant wait to see how the nuggets adjust to a better 3 point shooting team. Still props to them for adapting this well to the suns.

  • @tomh5369
    @tomh5369 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis. It's interesting how Denver's defense is forcing the best mid-range team in the league outside their comfort zone, and shooting so many mid-rangers! Fascinating. I'd like to see Phoenix attack Jokic with any of: 1. Ram screens into P&Rs 2. Slip the P&R 3. Veer pin-downs 4. Zoom Or really anything that will impede his ability to show on P&Rs.

  • @lucky889s9

    @lucky889s9

    Жыл бұрын

    How can they? The starting lineup is called the Hamstring Five. And they got 0 bench. Geriatric PG just went down. It's Gentleman's sweep

  • @SerWhiskeyfeet

    @SerWhiskeyfeet

    Жыл бұрын

    This dude just sayin random words and callin em offensive schemes. With that said, I’d like to see Phoenix try: 1 P&R + 2 Cherry Tomato 3 P&R ++ 4 The 🗿 5 The Flying V 6 The Statue of Liberty 7 Spider Y2 Banana

  • @thomass7877

    @thomass7877

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucky889s9 ahahha.. omg im dying.... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @arlekin1976

    @arlekin1976

    Жыл бұрын

    I can`t wait to see Suns running "Cancun hookers & blow" play. They are getting better at it every year.

  • @kynos6219

    @kynos6219

    Жыл бұрын

    The Twolves tried to do KAT Gobert slip screens but they covered it well rotating, with a specifically great defensive play by Murray blowing it up on the pass to Gobert. The issue with running a lot of these sets is that Ayton is terrible, sets weak screens and often fails to roll, which is only making the spacing issues worse as he tends to linger after setting a pick.

  • @stephenhalstead1
    @stephenhalstead1 Жыл бұрын

    As always, your best video comes from playoff videos! Great breakdowns and teaching people about the game within the game these coaches are playing.

  • @NixonMayHaveBeenOnToSomething

    @NixonMayHaveBeenOnToSomething

    Жыл бұрын

    Why are you in a suit?

  • @howitzer551
    @howitzer551 Жыл бұрын

    Just to further add to your comments about the skip pass. When it is Booker or Paul with the ball a lot of the times the weakside defender is athletic enough and long enough to split and make the pass difficult (mostly thinking of Gordon or Porter Jr). As shorter guys they kind of have to lob the skip pass (they aren't tall enough to see over Denver's D) and even if they do it well enough to get it there the higher arching pass give the defender time to recover.

  • @Praetoriusify

    @Praetoriusify

    Жыл бұрын

    💯. A lot of these clips it's Aaron Gordon, and he's leaning toward the skip pass in anticipation. A big mobile dude with hops is not where you want to throw a skip pass over.

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    Granted its also bad roster building optics. The skip pass is the only legit play because the Suns can only attack you from mid range if they don't access that pass. Which the Nuggets are hella fine to settle for it because while their team may struggle if they get stretched out against better shooting. When the action is more condensed then its easier to pre-switch and keep Jokic close to the action in the middle of traffic. And in case he does need help the athletic or lengthy help from Gordon/MPJ can get there easier.

  • @MultiYankees17
    @MultiYankees17 Жыл бұрын

    Your content and analysis is perfect for playoff basketball. Coaching and game by game adjustments matter way more.

  • @Ysyandre
    @Ysyandre Жыл бұрын

    The Mavs also slide over with DFS as help way into the paint last year , which helped them contain book and cp , as Book or CP can't pass to the corner

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah Thinking Basketball made vids about this a year ago. Sure its a different team this time the Suns are struggling to do the same thing but its a clear weakness and anyone just glossing over it is knows why the Suns are all-nba Team Cancun come playoff time.

  • @lolno6975
    @lolno6975 Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't even call it "covering for Jokic" hes an integral part of the defemsibe system. Jokic is covering for himself. Its a beautiful gameplan

  • @NothingElseMattersJM

    @NothingElseMattersJM

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s a bad defender this regular season and playoffs. Check the #’s

  • @bilindabutcher8913

    @bilindabutcher8913

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@NothingElseMattersJM Jokic is top 10 in defensive rating this playoffs so idk what you're talking about saying check the #s

  • @RS-ol8or

    @RS-ol8or

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NothingElseMattersJM I like clichés too, they’re fun. 🙄

  • @risottonero4501

    @risottonero4501

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NothingElseMattersJM he's sixth in defensive ratings this playoffs

  • @Chris1200923

    @Chris1200923

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bilindabutcher8913 jokic is rated better than embiid in defensive rating. does that make amy sense?

  • @joelove9424
    @joelove9424 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis. Another point about Jokic' individual defensive ability is that he can be elite defensively when he needs to be: multiple game-winning blocks, amongst league's steals leaders, etc. The reason this isn't on show throughout the game, and much of the regular season is that Jokic knows his value on the offensive end of the court is historically good and doesn't want to get into foul trouble. Instead, as illustrated so well in your video, he plays good to great positional team defense but won't take risks on shot contests/strips.

  • @tif

    @tif

    Жыл бұрын

    If he cant defend well without foul trouble then he's not a good defender

  • @joelove9424

    @joelove9424

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tif you clearly didn't read what I wrote. He doesn't go for blocks unless it's essential they get a stop.

  • @tif

    @tif

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joelove9424 bad defense outside of the clutch is still bad defense

  • @marvinlear5848

    @marvinlear5848

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tif what's that have to do with the "good to great" D that J L brought up? your comment seems like a non-sequitur

  • @thermitebanana
    @thermitebanana Жыл бұрын

    That's a really nuanced and thoughtful video. Nice one Jacob

  • @bradhicks5558
    @bradhicks5558 Жыл бұрын

    Best NBA analysis vids on KZread. Thanks for the excellence, TB.

  • @DesignzRUs
    @DesignzRUs Жыл бұрын

    I cant believe people see this stuff and say Kd is better than Curry. Yall gotta really breakdown basketball

  • @Van_ax

    @Van_ax

    Жыл бұрын

    Kd isn’t facing a hospital nuggets team

  • @DesignzRUs

    @DesignzRUs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Van_ax wtf that has to do with exposing Joker in the pnr? Shit will still happen my boy

  • @austinblankenship7631
    @austinblankenship7631 Жыл бұрын

    Its simple, jokic is not nearly as bad of a defender as people pretend he is.

  • @amarevanhook7453

    @amarevanhook7453

    Жыл бұрын

    He really isn’t, he just needs good defensive wings with him which he has now

  • @x-man9473

    @x-man9473

    Жыл бұрын

    He's more of a help defender. Most people think about guarding players man to man when evaluating defense.

  • @Lee-rg1ez
    @Lee-rg1ez Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis, love these types of videos

  • @yahalyulmer2912
    @yahalyulmer2912 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. One of your best videos Ben! From a 4$ patreon for 2 years who watched all of them

  • @NostalgicMem0ries
    @NostalgicMem0ries Жыл бұрын

    its still mystery how good jokic is in that chubby frame, if you look at him without context you would not say he can play full game and will lack stamina, speed , agility, but damn he is good in every aspect of this game, from god tier offence to elite defending iq... how is he not mvp this year it beyond me, i guess pts per game matter more than overal greatness and winning.

  • @shorewall

    @shorewall

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope this playoffs show who the mvp should have been.

  • @NothingElseMattersJM

    @NothingElseMattersJM

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shorewall Horrible rim protector

  • @zmijoguz

    @zmijoguz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NothingElseMattersJM Because PPG and rim protection is all that matters... said a fanboy of a player who is below 20PPG in playoffs, but won the scoring title this year.

  • @RS-ol8or

    @RS-ol8or

    Жыл бұрын

    “Chubby frame”? He’s not fat. His body type is more in line with players from earlier decades before him. He’s in great shape & excellent conditioning. Yeah, he’s not < 10% body fat & a male model, but that’s not the point.

  • @NostalgicMem0ries

    @NostalgicMem0ries

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RS-ol8or i didnt called him fat, and im aware that he is in good shape, but his his deceptive body type really is interesting

  • @FlatTopJR
    @FlatTopJR Жыл бұрын

    been asking the same question from the couch. can’t wait to watch

  • @pedjal.7456
    @pedjal.7456 Жыл бұрын

    i enjoyed this analysis. thanks!

  • @MsKarl101
    @MsKarl101 Жыл бұрын

    The Warriors also were a nightmare for the Dallas defense last year after they made a terrific job against Utah and Phoenix.

  • @edtarmt3249
    @edtarmt3249 Жыл бұрын

    Nice breakdown right here!

  • @KevinDurantEasy
    @KevinDurantEasy Жыл бұрын

    Damn. The suns completely changed everything they were doing which made this video possible 😅. The role players changed and started hitting 3s. KD started attacking the paint a ton. Ayton got less time and Landale started getting offensive rebounds. I guess they saw this

  • @augustosarmentodeoliveira3023
    @augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 Жыл бұрын

    it's impressive what you get away with with 2 very good defenders (KCP and Gordon)

  • @shorewall

    @shorewall

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the thing. Jokic is a superstar. But he can't do everything. Build a good defense around him. And do the same for Luka as well.

  • @augustosarmentodeoliveira3023

    @augustosarmentodeoliveira3023

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shorewall that's why I'm all for a Jamal Murray + MPJ trade for a two-way star like PG (less injured maybe). it'll be a better team 2/3 years from now

  • @la_chistera
    @la_chistera Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!!! Thanks a lot, these are the best!

  • @AbdulDean448
    @AbdulDean448 Жыл бұрын

    Jokic is the real MVP not Embiid

  • @shorewall

    @shorewall

    Жыл бұрын

    For real. I am rooting for the Nuggets and Celtics right now. 😄

  • @forthe3136

    @forthe3136

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shorewall The Celtics ain’t getting passed the Knicks man you might as well convert to being a Knicks fan now

  • @tinyrick2921

    @tinyrick2921

    Жыл бұрын

    Celtics ain't passing Himmy Butler playing that way, losing to washed Harden seriously?

  • @danhantheman

    @danhantheman

    Жыл бұрын

    most valuable sloppy phat boi

  • @vukaleksic1654

    @vukaleksic1654

    Жыл бұрын

    Jokic's best answer to this would be an NBA ring

  • @bpaperu
    @bpaperu Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis! I wonder how much they can modify their defense against better 3 point shooting teams like the Warriors or Celtics. Lakers look like a better match up for Denver.

  • @marlonansonng3144
    @marlonansonng3144 Жыл бұрын

    A Torrey Craig frisbee from the corner is my new favourite quote from you thank you Ben

  • @Legend646
    @Legend646 Жыл бұрын

    I've been watching sport shows that analyze games since the early 90's. This is the best i've ever seen!

  • @Tomtainius
    @Tomtainius Жыл бұрын

    I think this video is a great example of why Denver would be favourites against the Lakers, but not the Warriors, despite the Lakers looking to be the favourites in that Californian series.

  • @kaseemburr4825

    @kaseemburr4825

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope. The reason Lakers have so many ft attempts is because because they are really good at attacking the paint. They won't settle for 3s or heavy contested midranges like suns. Look at game 1 against the warriors. Warriors defense was to pack the paint and make the Lakers a jump shooting team. That was Memphis plan too but obviously it ain't work that way cuz Lakers are great at attacking the paint and drawing the fouls. Once players start getting into foul trouble Lakers feast more in the paint.

  • @scruffythejanitor1969

    @scruffythejanitor1969

    Жыл бұрын

    Bron would make the skip pass.

  • @kaseemburr4825

    @kaseemburr4825

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scruffythejanitor1969 they wouldn't double team Bron

  • @PrYMELyFe
    @PrYMELyFe Жыл бұрын

    This aged nicely

  • @jimjones2287

    @jimjones2287

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @derrickbarnes7215
    @derrickbarnes7215 Жыл бұрын

    This is a great breakdown

  • @AyeYoYoYooo
    @AyeYoYoYooo Жыл бұрын

    Very good video, describing exactly what Denver set out to do, and did. Congrats to Gordon, Caldwell-Pope for their great on ball defense on Book/KD, and congrats to damn near every nuggets rotation player for active hands and filling transition lanes. COACH MALONE deserves more respect from the media, and I have a creeping suspicion they don’t want to give it to him. But the Nuggets might win their first chip, and force the media to recognize what they’ve been able to build & achieve in Denver

  • @elliottstraube3287
    @elliottstraube3287 Жыл бұрын

    Being 7ft and making that 40foot skip pass is the key and no one on the suns can do it.

  • @Reeferal
    @Reeferal Жыл бұрын

    Basically Jokic is only slow footed but a smart defender and understands rotations. This type of defence doesn’t protect someone who doesn’t know how to switch onto the mismatch or which angle to take to make it back to their man without giving up good position.

  • @nemanjamanutd

    @nemanjamanutd

    Жыл бұрын

    bro he already is one of the best floor generals and one man army offensive players of all time . Jokic is here where he is because he is extremely smart about basketball . I bet you that he knows when they attack him where he needs to go and what he needs to do but he just isnt fast enough to make that play

  • @Reeferal

    @Reeferal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nemanjamanutd I completely agree. It’s evident because they make flawless rotations defensively. Mobility is their only flaw here, but they make it hard to attack it.

  • @seby5459
    @seby5459 Жыл бұрын

    Two Thinking Basketball Videos in the same week is such a blessing

  • @5uperN0v4
    @5uperN0v4 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic analysis👏👏👏

  • @timwcronin
    @timwcronin Жыл бұрын

    The obvious is take more threes, but I think that'll take more than a couple days of practice to change up their offensive philosophy. They took more in Game 2 than the Nugs, but made less. We'll see what they do without CP3, but I think whatever rabbit they pull out for Game 3 will be solved in game if not by Game 4. At the end of the day I think they may only have two rabbits to pull out. Running Jamal through a ton of screens last game will have a counter now too.

  • @maartenvz
    @maartenvz Жыл бұрын

    The coming games we can see how good Monty Williams really is. Lets see how he adjusts

  • @billmichae
    @billmichae Жыл бұрын

    The best analysis this week.

  • @seanmc2892
    @seanmc2892 Жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍

  • @Von199X
    @Von199X Жыл бұрын

    I've been saying this Suns downfall will be their lack of 3 point shooting

  • @tj5180

    @tj5180

    Жыл бұрын

    With ross and other guys being out playing a role as well

  • @aggarius2944

    @aggarius2944

    Жыл бұрын

    Damien lee going ice cold is such a pain for them.

  • @basasure9065

    @basasure9065

    Жыл бұрын

    Lack of 3pt ? Durant shot 2/12 supposedly the best scorer in the last decade

  • @taku5309

    @taku5309

    Жыл бұрын

    lack of depth

  • @bonk668
    @bonk668 Жыл бұрын

    I hope Coach Monty plays the rest of his bench more because some of his rotations have been questionable sometimes

  • @anthempt3edits

    @anthempt3edits

    Жыл бұрын

    What bench?

  • @TheDifferenced

    @TheDifferenced

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he meant Cam Pain and the 4 empty chairs.

  • @smoothsavage2870

    @smoothsavage2870

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anthempt3edits TJ Warren and Terrance Ross have been getting DNPs this series. Monty has more players that can help score, he just doesn't use them.

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smoothsavage2870 It wouldn't matter. Monty went 9-10 deep in Game 7 vs the Mavs last year because Luka had 35 points by half time. Booker couldn't afford a bucket even if he could pay with his contract for one. In the playoffs quality matters most and going 6-7 deep (as long as they are healthy) to get the job done usually does.

  • @michrelliggins8010
    @michrelliggins8010 Жыл бұрын

    this is a beautiful break down

  • @DamianBadalamenti
    @DamianBadalamenti Жыл бұрын

    Thank you offering the analysis that is lacking,on ESPN and other Media platforms. The NBA needs to teach the truth rather then misinform to drive a narrative.

  • @alextrivunovic644
    @alextrivunovic644 Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown as always. Who is the better matchup for Denver in the conference finals in your opinion?

  • @soosbendem5345

    @soosbendem5345

    Жыл бұрын

    Easily the Lakers my boy

  • @alextrivunovic644

    @alextrivunovic644

    Жыл бұрын

    @@soosbendem5345 Easily? Please elaborate.

  • @koiiev9413

    @koiiev9413

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alextrivunovic644 not a good shooting team compared to warriors

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    Both Lakers and Warriors pose a different set of problems to the Nuggets in the WCF. But the Warriors spacing easily stress the Nuggets even on screens and keeping Jokic in good positions. Lakers may not have the spacing but they have demonstrated to get AD in screens and have him as a lob target to generate efficient scoring looks.

  • @aperfectcircle0219
    @aperfectcircle0219 Жыл бұрын

    Because Jokic is a good defender

  • @Chris1200923

    @Chris1200923

    Жыл бұрын

    L take. hes clearly bieng hidden by good perimeter peices lmfao

  • @bgebbq314
    @bgebbq314 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent analysis.

  • @nebojsaseletic2766
    @nebojsaseletic2766 Жыл бұрын

    Good job man👏

  • @BTizzle
    @BTizzle Жыл бұрын

    so does KD's size play against him here? its hard to imagine kobe and mike not extending those double teams to make better plays or even getting to their spots and shooting over top effectively. Pre injury, its hard to imagine this being that significant of a problem for kd.

  • @RS-ol8or

    @RS-ol8or

    Жыл бұрын

    KD is top 15 or top 20 player. MJ & Kobe top 3. Big difference. Plus, Suns don’t have the depth around KD. Even MJ had an amazing coach, system, depth bench, etc

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    More like KD's historically lack of tight handles in traffic. And the Suns not making that key skip pass to stress the Nuggets defense in terms of spacing.

  • @gilbertnicholas1582
    @gilbertnicholas1582 Жыл бұрын

    Boston put out the book on KD last year He isn't as scary in the playoffs Thanks for Bridges and the draft picks Phoenix

  • @Billiehoyle
    @Billiehoyle Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel, new subscriber

  • @davidjr4903
    @davidjr4903 Жыл бұрын

    Jokic the REAL MVP, unlike the philly phlopper

  • @CoachFrikki
    @CoachFrikki Жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see the different offenses match up. These playoffs: Suns are shooting 36% of their shots from midrange (10-22 ft). Nuggets shooting 15% of their shots from midrange.

  • @vism2812
    @vism2812 Жыл бұрын

    a lot are surprised by this, since all you hear about is jokic the liability, but this was easy to see coming. nuggets started the season slow and had a 4 game losing streak near the end that made the masses give up on them. but in between, while no one was paying real attention, they were dominant. second half of the season, their crunch time defence was first in the league. jokic is really only a liability in theory, and in some games/moments in the reg season, just like everyone else. when its winning time, his brain allows him to communicate his teammates into position, attack his opponents weakness’ and use his size to eat space. he’s no dpoy, but he’s not the traffic cone everyone says. thank the gods he doesnt have embiid or AD’s body type, or he’d be the best defender ever😂 nuggets have unsurprisingly looked the most stable this playoffs. i had them winning it all going in. looking good so far.

  • @trebledc
    @trebledc Жыл бұрын

    I see that the Nuggets is mostly guarding the 3pt area and the lower post. They letting KD and Booker be stuck between the freethrow and 3pt line, forcing them to take the jumper.

  • @dalitespeed9403
    @dalitespeed9403 Жыл бұрын

    amazing video

  • @olliHonest
    @olliHonest Жыл бұрын

    Nice video!

  • @thetrib1
    @thetrib1 Жыл бұрын

    It's because they don't run an offense. Mainly. But yes the nuggets have never been a bottom 5 defense. It was wrong to thing 7 footers were able to guard Steph outside. Also to think 7 footers can guard the 3 while in drop coverage. So it's shame on the viewers

  • @shorewall

    @shorewall

    Жыл бұрын

    For real. The casuals and ESPN were dogging Rudy Gobert for not being able to switch and guard little guys. Hello, they're not supposed to. But if they will criticize Rudy's defense, I learned to just tune them out.

  • @Rogue_Centurion

    @Rogue_Centurion

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shorewallhonestly it’s like they forgot that Rudy Gobert is seven feet tall and got his DPOYs from being an excellent rim defender

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shorewall Its the same story really with both Gobert and Mitchell's new teams with how they handled defense this playoffs. Gobert had to play the drop more often because the Wolves don't have the athletic wing bodies (no McDaniel either) stay close to their man even on screens or help. Doesn't help KAT being out of position is an easy way to attack him too. For the Cavs they kept Mitchell and Garland away from Brunson. But Knicks still found ways to indirectly attack them through screen switches. Then they threw their garbage sack worth of wings at Brunson but whenever he got the mid range anyway, it always got Mobley or ALlen out of position to try over help. Which then was a Brunson score or a pass away to another Knick getting a bucket. Or RJ attacking on a catch and he draws out Mobley/Allen and gets Mitch Rob rim running to clean up. Its just too easy.

  • @Crazyjedi2
    @Crazyjedi2 Жыл бұрын

    Phoenix is just too slow as a team. The way team's have beaten Jokic in the past is just using pace and tons of off the ball movement and speed to tire Jokic out. He does so much on offense and rebounding that if you make him work really hard on defense he is going to tire out if he doesn't start to pick and choose what to do to conserve energy which is when he then becomes a liability on defense because he's so important on offense he can't sacrifice anything on that side of the ball. Phoenix plays extremely slow so he can play full force on both sides of the ball and he's 6'11" with a 7'3" wingspan, of course he can be a decent defender when he wants to.

  • @scruffythejanitor1969

    @scruffythejanitor1969

    Жыл бұрын

    I think this is the right take. Booker seems like the only one with a prayer of actually beating someone of the dribble against defense like that.

  • @Gminor7

    @Gminor7

    Жыл бұрын

    And 284 lbs with an IQ of 140 surely helps him boxing out.

  • @Mr_C137
    @Mr_C137 Жыл бұрын

    This was so good

  • @dc_drums
    @dc_drums Жыл бұрын

    Good breakdown. Please do one on the suns last two wins and adjustments they have made. Thank you.

  • @zanmarinic
    @zanmarinic Жыл бұрын

    I hope the Nuggets go all the way. Great video like allways!

  • @kaseemburr4825

    @kaseemburr4825

    Жыл бұрын

    That defensive effort won't fly against the lakers

  • @ryanmahon2956

    @ryanmahon2956

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kaseemburr4825 I wish we could play both the lakers and the warriors, we can beat them both. Guess we'll just have to settle for one tho

  • @user-lh7yo9in4p
    @user-lh7yo9in4p Жыл бұрын

    Correct me if im wrong but I remember Kobe used to apply this similar theory wherein they would force/double the star players and make the role players decide the play and that messes up the team chemistry where the start players would argue with the role players which messes up the coordination. Kobe was about that psychological warfare

  • @shorewall

    @shorewall

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, because it worked so well against him.

  • @thestigglet

    @thestigglet

    Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't help the suns that they don't like Ayton too

  • @casey1973
    @casey1973 Жыл бұрын

    Holy smokes. what a beautiful breakdown.

  • @JetEngine85
    @JetEngine85 Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown

  • @tejmazwei
    @tejmazwei Жыл бұрын

    Denver is winning the chip, Joker or Mal FMVP LETS GO

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 Жыл бұрын

    I'm watching this video after Denver has won the series. I wonder how this strategy shifts now that they'll be going against a team with an all-time great skip passer (LeBron).

  • @amarevanhook7453

    @amarevanhook7453

    Жыл бұрын

    Perimeter D gonna have to play out of their minds this series

  • @thestrika

    @thestrika

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amarevanhook7453 defend can't defend straight up that's why they're playing like this

  • @DSab07
    @DSab07 Жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful, well made educational video 👍

  • @metkacebulowa
    @metkacebulowa Жыл бұрын

    Great job! Great defense by Mike Malone!

  • @xxjackirblackbloddxx7377
    @xxjackirblackbloddxx7377 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe Jokic and the nuggets are just better on defense when they dont play facu austin rivers and will barton

  • @nickfowler547
    @nickfowler547 Жыл бұрын

    Watching a lot of these possessions, it’s absurd how inactive Ayton is on the offensive glass. He just watched 6’3 Bruce Brown go up and get one lmaoo

  • @thunderkai7272

    @thunderkai7272

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruce Brown is just a really good rebounder

  • @nickfowler547

    @nickfowler547

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thunderkai7272 not disagreeing there but if that’s Mitchell Robinson or Looney that’s a free board

  • @hectorwatt9712
    @hectorwatt9712 Жыл бұрын

    Mike Malone really deserves more credit than he gets, he has drawn up amazing offensive and defensive schemes for the nuggets and is one of the best coaches in the nba, Aaron Gordon also deserves more credit for how much he helps the defense

  • @justincarreras7753
    @justincarreras7753 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing analysis as always!

  • @JR-ik7lu
    @JR-ik7lu Жыл бұрын

    Low key one of the best NBA analyst youtuber out there. 👏

  • @egglordsasuke8532
    @egglordsasuke8532 Жыл бұрын

    Their three stars all do the same thing and Ayton does nothing but screen and catch lobs when someone drives. They are so stupidly predictable. Someone's driving? Let me guess, Ayton is running a few feet away looking for a lob.

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    Predictable in the worse kind of way. Suns need that skip pass to really get any spacing and since they can't, they will beat their heads on the wall to make KD/Booker try get at the basket via Ayton screens that just don't work. They don't have the speed to directly attack solo mismatches either and even when CP3 gets his ideal big matchup vs Jokic, its just a midrange jumper that is coming out.

  • @radicchiozambana5342
    @radicchiozambana5342 Жыл бұрын

    What not having Steph Curry does to a man.

  • @Someaddress555s
    @Someaddress555s Жыл бұрын

    Credit to Coach Malone, he's got his team working together really well on defense and if they win a title then Jokics defense in these playoffs will have to be considered a positive to the team.

  • @PsychoWarper
    @PsychoWarper Жыл бұрын

    The Nuggets Rookie Christian Braun has also played a pretty major role in this being another good sized wing that hustles on defense. Overall this just highlights the Nuggets offseason, they knew Jokic was their main guy and knew they needed strong perimeter defense so in edition to getting MPJ and Murray back healthy they also went out and got KCP, Brown and Braun all players who can hit 3s and guard the perimeter well and its been a huge benefit.

  • @akiljean-pierre9972
    @akiljean-pierre9972 Жыл бұрын

    The only way the PnR can kill Jokic is if you can pull up from 30 off the dribble like Curry and Dame

  • @davidjr4903

    @davidjr4903

    Жыл бұрын

    or if Jokic has bum teammates like rivers, facu, barton etc who are now out of the league

  • @Gdfsandoz

    @Gdfsandoz

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@David JR rivers isn't. Honestly rivers is a phenomenal on ball defender. Dudes a dog sad he isn't utilized somewhere. Always really liked him on the nuggets humble ass dude I must say.

  • @xavierb9061

    @xavierb9061

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidjr4903 anthony davis would destroy this defense

  • @davidjr4903

    @davidjr4903

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xavierb9061 the only thing davis destroys on a consistent basis is himself

  • @xavierb9061

    @xavierb9061

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidjr4903 haha..no thats stupid..but you liked your own comment so

  • @sidhartabuenos7939
    @sidhartabuenos7939 Жыл бұрын

    Two in a row ???

Келесі