Asbestos doesn't react with water. On the contrary, when handeling asbestos the best way to limit harm is...making it wet. Education is a beautiful thing.

@justsomeeggsinapot1784

Жыл бұрын

Ok what about all the other chemicals

@bloodreaper8822

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeeggsinapot1784 All if not most of the other chemicals that would have probably been removed before it was sunk, if not then Brazil would face huge backlash form the international community for dumping hazardous materials.

@justsomeeggsinapot1784

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodreaper8822 you know hazardous materials get dumped places daily right? It isn't easy but if you do deep research you can find lots of instances of overturned trains and sunken ships with vague or covered up cargo records

@bloodreaper8822

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeeggsinapot1784 I was talking about purposeful dumping not accidently ones that u r talking about.

@DBT1007

Жыл бұрын

Yes, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PLASTIC AND OTHER DANGEROIS MATERIALS THERE TOO. Obviously they wont uninstall the cable system and etc in there. You talk about education, but you're not educated as well😅

The sinking footage was not of the Sao Palo, it was of the USS Oriskany - the carrier that the US properly decontaminated and sank to provide an artificial reef and a recreational diving spot.

@YELLTELL

Жыл бұрын

LOL, YEP! I REMEMBER WATCHING IT SUNK LIVE ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL

@brunopontes6305

Жыл бұрын

São Paulo* honey

@wasdmatter3478

Жыл бұрын

@@brunopontes6305 🤓

@bmanrox5542

Жыл бұрын

​@@brunopontes6305 🤓

@ChadDidNothingWrong

Жыл бұрын

By "properly decontaminating", you mean burning 84,000,000 gallons of crude oil to prepare it for sinking.... 80% of money spent on anything (including manual labor) goes straight to burning oil and gas. Don't forget it. Neither of these methods are better or worse. Just different.

Sea animals: "Oh, a new apartment"

@bedwars341

4 ай бұрын

lol

@kazueballesteros3665

4 ай бұрын

The puffer fish and a hermit crab without a shell: Y I P P E E

@williamhalsted4

Ай бұрын

That is the most accurate assessment of the ecological impacts of that ship.

@alissonmauro5349

Ай бұрын

@@williamhalsted4 yup.

As long as you aren't breathing in the asbestos it isn't a threat. And if you're 350km off the cost of Brazil and 5km under the ocean and trying to breathe, then you have bigger problems than asbestos.

@anonymousfortunes2970

5 ай бұрын

Bro how am I supposed to breath underwater in a healthy way with all this asbestos! FUC-

@Dr.Kraig_Ren

4 ай бұрын

😂

@kouroshalimohammadi3404

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@johnmachele509

Ай бұрын

Nice one😂

@user-yw6oi5tc3f

Ай бұрын

❤😂🎉🙏🏾💪🏾 Best Response!

Some info, because this is not so simple. This old ship was sold to a company that took it to Turkey. Turkey forbid is entrance. Brazil also forbid its return. The company that was responsible threatened to abandon the ship in the middle of the ocean. The Brazilian navy decided to assume reasonably over it again. But it identified three huge holes caused by oxidation at the hull. 3000 cubic meters of water had ALREADY entered the ship. The report said the ship would sink naturally before the end of February. The asbestos is impossible to remove. It's an integral part of the ship. The Brazilian navy decided to sink it because it would sink anyway. And if it sink uncontrolled, it might threaten the crew of the tugboat. Furthermore, it might sink near the port, creating a logistical nightmare. Or in an environmental protected area. There wasn't much that could be done except this. BTW, notice that asbestos was used extensively in ships at WW2 time. As so many ships were sunk at the time, the asbestos in this aircraft carrier is a drop in the ocean, in comparison

@a2falcone

Жыл бұрын

The ship was sinking according to the Brazilian Navy which had a clear interest in getting rid of the ship. All in all I think sinking it was the least worse option at that point, but I don't trust the Brazilian reports about the state of the hull too much.

@rogeriopenna9014

Жыл бұрын

@@a2falcone anyone may choose to not believe the official reports from any source.

@rogeriopenna9014

Жыл бұрын

@@a2falcone here, a tv report about the aircraft carrier, 3 months ago. Around the 8.20 mark they fly a drone around. There are several huge corrosion marks and holes on the hull kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6OFstObnKiYg8Y.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

@zombiejelly4111

Жыл бұрын

@@a2falcone still doesn’t matter…the ship was useless and nothing could be done….better safe sinking it in a deep deep part of the ocean so deep reefs can’t even form…calm down take a marine biology course and understand no harm has been done, just gonna become a home for marine life on the ocean floor

@brunotcs

Жыл бұрын

Um relatório feito por quem queria se livrar do navio (Marinha) durante um governo que dava exacerbadas liberdades para as ultrapassadas e inuteis forcas armadas brasileiras ... nao acho que tenha muita credibilidade nao...

I'm surprised that Brazil didn't try to sell it to China.

@totalnerd5674

Жыл бұрын

To a Chinese "Amusement Park Entrepreneur" no less

@davisklein5720

Жыл бұрын

It’s probably in better shape than china’s aircraft carriers

@faruk1472

Жыл бұрын

They did try to sell it to Turkey tho🤣

@totalnerd5674

Жыл бұрын

@@faruk1472 Shit, that would have been perfect for their Bayraktar supersonic drone. The drone itself is much lighter than a proper fighter jet, so the old catapults should have had no problem with them. Alas, Turkey probably had their reasons.

@Igor_054

Жыл бұрын

​@@totalnerd5674 Brazil was not selling it to Turkish military, buy actually to a Turkish ship yard that would recicle the whole thing. Turkish authorities, however, didn't allow this ship to dock there, due to asbestos, so the deal was canceled.

Reading further context and facts, the decision to scuttle it in a safe manner rather than becoming a navigational hazard is a good call from the Brazillian Navy.

@Sampsonoff

6 ай бұрын

“Safe manner” is doing heavy lifting in your sentence

@VandalAudi

6 ай бұрын

@@Sampsonoff as long as it didn't create a future navigational hazard, that's enough.

@Sampsonoff

6 ай бұрын

@@VandalAudi That’s an offensively low bar imo. But then again my passion for hunting and fishing is lifelong and I’ve been involved in many conservation efforts worldwide 🤷‍♂️

@VandalAudi

6 ай бұрын

@@Sampsonoff I get what you're saying but no.shipbreaker facility would accept that hulk, keeping it afloat was a drain of resources and a hazard, disposing it that would satisfy your requirement requires an exorbitant sum of money and time that is way out of Brazil's budget, so this is the only good option left.

@Ghosts1129

5 ай бұрын

@@Sampsonoff Unless the ship has some toxic chemicals inside of it, that will react with water/combine with water, the ship will actually turn into a reef where fish thrive. Asbestos is usually placed in water so that it no longer is deemed harmful. Soooo, if the ship had no chemicals left inside, it's a new reef for those fish you like to catch.

I think no matter what you do someone will always hate you.

@revokdaryl1

8 ай бұрын

Wise words, my friend. Wise words. This is why death is a blessing in disguise.

@tedhubertcrusio372

8 ай бұрын

​@@revokdaryl1death to the hater? *Loads Springfield 1903*

@revokdaryl1

8 ай бұрын

@@tedhubertcrusio372 LOL! Well recently I revisited the concept of eternal return, which seems far more plausible to me than any Heaven or Hell scenario. It proposes that, immediately after we die, we are reborn into the same life all over again. And this will continue for eternity. Nothing will change. The same pains, joys and sorrows will be experienced over and over and over again, down to the most minute detail, like that rainbow sweater you wore to school back in junior kindergarten.

Having served on a US helicopter carrier, built in mid '45, loaded with asbestos, our ship did well for decades. Asbestos was never a problem unless disturbed. After severely damaged in a gale off Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, in the winter of 1967, the Navy sent us to repairs and refit at the yards in Boston. Took lots of work and time. Instead of moving its crew off ship, we became exposed to many types airborne hazards like asbestos during the work. I now have asbestosis...

@mrlayhey8564

Жыл бұрын

🤔

@alvingarfielddelaire1744

Жыл бұрын

Sorry mate. 😥

@lolartover7819

Жыл бұрын

Wow I would like to know more about this if we could get to talk more on it off here

@biggdogg33

Жыл бұрын

​@@lolartover7819 asbestos is light enough to float but hard enough to damage your lungs.

@westaussiebrumby5425

Жыл бұрын

Aussie band the mining of asbestos in 1966 and we only stop all use in 2003

man the titanic was a environmental crime and the captain, the people on board, and the iceberg should pay dearly -environmentalist

I’m not an environmentalist but that was not right! Any country that takes on the major responsibility of owning a ship of war should also take on the responsibility of the peace and everything that goes with it including the environment!!! Shame on you Brazil!

fun fact: before sinking it, Brazil actually sold the carrier as scrap for a Turkish company, but they didn't let it in because of the asbestos and stuff, so they sunk it

@Dragoneer

Жыл бұрын

Lol so Brazil basically scammed Turkey Edit: Trust KZread comment sections to end up in semantical nonsense because someone looks too deeply into a joke…

@henry247

Жыл бұрын

​@@DragoneerI wasn't sold to Turkey it was sold to a Turkish ship junkyard.

@Dragoneer

Жыл бұрын

@@henry247 Ok Brazil scammed a Turkish ship junkyard

@henry247

Жыл бұрын

@@Dragoneer Eh...how?

@Dragoneer

Жыл бұрын

@@henry247 By selling it and then sinking it before they can get their hands on it. You know this is a joke, right??

The absolute best way to mitigate the danger of asbestos is to get it wet. Problem solved, I'd say.

@Elhinal3023

Жыл бұрын

But still asbestos is not the only chemicals present

@settratheimperishable4093

Жыл бұрын

​@@Elhinal3023depends, I hope they cleaned out all the fuel tanks and such thoroughly before sinking it.

@JUST-ME2468

Жыл бұрын

...OR , not to have dug it up in the first place.

@cranci

Жыл бұрын

@@JUST-ME2468 if my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike

@_just_another_filthy_redcoat

Жыл бұрын

@@cranci not a fan of British carbonara then ?

I think the only mistake made here by the Brazilian Navy was not filling the ship with environmentalists before sinking it.

I'm not an environmentalist per se, but that was a terrible idea. They were too cheap to dispose of it correctly but paid an astronomical sum to host the Olympics. Great job.

Once I was playing HOI4 as Brazil and I experienced a bug where my entire navy was sunk, save for one battleship that I couldn't control in the Caribiean. This Ghost Ship just sailed around engaging American ships and Aircraft and winning against entire fleets because it couldn't die.

@capitaotrex505

Жыл бұрын

É meu amigo Você já ouviu falar do lendário navio brasileiro encouraçado Minas Gerais o navio de guerra mais poderoso da Primeira Guerra Mundial???

@country_flyboy

Жыл бұрын

​@@capitaotrex505I heard that it was horribly mismanaged, and crew conditions were terrible to the point of mutiny.

@shaunholt

Жыл бұрын

That's not a bug. It's a feature.

@Limosethe

Жыл бұрын

When you're such a bad captain that your mutineers have to win the war for you

@Taima

Жыл бұрын

lol goddamn Battleship Black Pearl

As long as there weren't any chemicals, it would be fine. Asbestos is harmless if it's wet and undisturbed

@Humanaut.

Жыл бұрын

Good thing the ocean is static and nothing actually moves in there.

@Dylan-ji1xx

Жыл бұрын

@Humanaut. ocean currents aren't strong enough to move a shipwreck. Also, sarcasm makes you sound like an ass

@peasant7214

Жыл бұрын

Undisturbed?

@Dylan-ji1xx

Жыл бұрын

@@peasant7214 as long as its left alone it won't cause any harm

@iiyeyitosii8523

Жыл бұрын

@@Humanaut.are you stupid? I hope you’re being sarcastic

I don't know anything about asbestos but I do watch a lot of movies, so I'm pretty sure Brazil is going to be attacked by a gigantic radioactive squid as a result of this.

@simoneales2568

11 ай бұрын

lol!!!

@LoicoDeCabueca

7 ай бұрын

The president of Brazil are "Socialist Lula da Silva" (squid of Silva)

@Boineymar

2 ай бұрын

o porta-avião não era nuclear

Sunken ships make it really easy to get a Coral reef going

@79pejeperro

Жыл бұрын

5000 metres depth

@kieranpalmer9045

Жыл бұрын

Not that deep they dont

@MrMongoose221

Жыл бұрын

Asbestos fish

@johnpembroke9869

Жыл бұрын

lol. duh duh duhhhh

@joellemus8279

Жыл бұрын

Mmm fiber glass fish, heard they're good.

sunken ships are actually pretty good for deep sea creatures, thats a lot of hiding spaces and plenty of room for coral to grow

@zee9709

Жыл бұрын

at 15000 feet, its too deep for coral to grow.

@Finesser-94

Жыл бұрын

That’s after they stripped it of the hazardous things

@DrFPanza

Жыл бұрын

Seafloor at the site is 1,03 leagues, there's no coral (or much of anything) down there. It's a safe resting place.

@phlippbergamot5723

Жыл бұрын

@@zee9709 There is still sea life down there that will find the shelter to be useful and a life giving habitat.

@rvangaal7859

Жыл бұрын

A tremendous waste of recycling materials

“To the horror of environmentalists” they should watch the ship breaking yards of Bangladesh that’s horror !!!

@sachiinrauut7790

Жыл бұрын

It was here in India also.

@stereotype.6377

Жыл бұрын

Maybe we can (and should) be opposed to multiple practices at once? idk, sounds pretty achievable to me

@tommcguire6472

Жыл бұрын

Their parents are making a fortune investing in the shipyards or making money off the shipping lines. So that protest is strictly off limits

@ew264

Жыл бұрын

@@stereotype.6377 Why? Whats going to happen? Few dead fish? Some algae too perhaps. The world aint ending. I couldnt care less about the health of fish. We can farm the tasty ones and let the rest die.

@realherobrine5636

Жыл бұрын

all environmentalists do is whine and yell and sit

Ships are sunken by many nations all around the world all the time. This because they help create barrier reefs. Seems “political” that its being made an issue. Also IMO, seems like Brazil doesn’t need a carrier. These are costly and mostly useful to attack/invade lands beyond your own 🤔

Crazy to see something so large go down

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

3 ай бұрын

well you can see France Saw Brazil coming🤣🤣🤣

I'd have bought it for less than what they paid to sink it. I've always wanted an aircraft carrier.

@totallylegityoutubeperson4170

Жыл бұрын

Sure you would.

@seanhartnett79

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@randomguy6152

Жыл бұрын

​@@totallylegityoutubeperson4170 well all the materials used to destroy it did indeed cost many thousands of dollars, if they just left it sitting in the ocean and another person claimed it that is free

@YELLTELL

Жыл бұрын

TELL EM!

@Ava-wu4qp

Жыл бұрын

And transporting the unoperational boat to you, let alone the facility needed to store an architect carrier would cost YOU more than some mere explosives

Environmental crime? That's just an artificial coral reef.

@LiveTheLimit

Жыл бұрын

The nasty chemicals leaking out would be an environmental concern

@n0t_the_plague_doctor343

Жыл бұрын

​@@LiveTheLimit there are no chemicals leaking out. They wouldve remived the oil and fuel, and the asbestos is only harmful if airborne. If it isnt airborne, then it just sinks to the floor and is no longer a concern.

@dethtour

Жыл бұрын

​@@LiveTheLimit if you want an environment concern. You should be asking the USA for blowing up russia pipeline. Which is the worst environmental catastrophe

@commissarthorne3894

Жыл бұрын

​@@dethtour what does that have to do with anything?

@dethtour

Жыл бұрын

@@commissarthorne3894 they're both environmental issues but no one talks about the worst in history that the USA caused on purpose.

They could have just declared war on some other country and let it be sunk in their waters and then say, “ we surrender “.

Asbestos that's wet is not hazardous cuz it's not loose. Coral will grow, overgrow it encapsulating it.

15000 feet down, no big deal-- think about all the ships that went down in WW1 & 2

@kathleenmann7311

Жыл бұрын

It all adds up.

@_R-R

Жыл бұрын

Apparently environmentalists don't think of that.

@jaffacalling53

Жыл бұрын

Wonder how much of a problem asbestos fibers are in the water. Probably not much of one.

@stefanp7603

Жыл бұрын

Those ships still cause ecological damage today. There’s been lots of study’s about it you can look it up. There’s a group that investigates old wrecks in the baltics that have a lot of good information about it.

@stereotype.6377

Жыл бұрын

Except those weren’t purposefully sunk by their own navy in peacetime?

Some of the video clips used in this video were of the sinking of the former USS Oriskany to make an artificial reef off the US east coast. This was done after months of mitigation efforts to remove asbestos and other hazardous material.

@jasonwilliams3967

Жыл бұрын

They don't remove asbestos inorder to sink a ship. Totally unnecessary....

@etuanno

Жыл бұрын

I haven't found anything concerning asbestos in underwater conditions. My guess is that it won't really float around and if it does, the huge surface area will make it suitable for colonisation, increasing its density and make it float down to the ocean floor. In the case of Brazilian ship, it was sunk to a deph of 5km, so there won't be much biological activity to disturb the asbestos. It will sit there long after we're extinct, because it's a mineral.

@jasonwilliams3967

Жыл бұрын

@@etuanno, asbestos is a natural occurring rock like material. It's only danger is when it's reduced down to a powder or dust, where it can become airborne. It's filers are hook shaped and dig into the soft tissues of the lungs, thus causing the the body to form scar tissue around the fibers to encapsulate them. During asbestos abatement, water is sprayed on it to prevent frangible fibers from becoming airborne, so the ocean bottom is a perfect place. The substance is not toxic and is found in the ground all over.

After what the Brazilian government has allowed to happen in the Amazon this ship sinking would have to be awfully bad for the environment to be worse than it.

I think the environmentalists failled to come up with a better plan. Otherwise, Brazil would have used it.

@bigmacstack3468

8 ай бұрын

Huh? That doesn’t make any sense

You know what I think? I think you left the cameraman on that ship.😮

@andreaspedersen3952

Жыл бұрын

Remote camera

@Pearloryx

Жыл бұрын

Sponsored by GoPro

@motashaiye

Жыл бұрын

The camera man always survives. He's immortal.

@lysandroabelcher2592

Жыл бұрын

lol

@ballzRdeep

Жыл бұрын

Cameramen never die, that's why later there's footage of it at the bottom. He's still there

France pulled a fast one on Brazil, by the sound of it.

@benoitguillou3146

Жыл бұрын

That's thinking there was no experts in the brazilian military , and none of those knew how to read a spec sheet ....Cheap ships are cheap for a reason

@campaspe810

Жыл бұрын

They only paid 12 million dollars so I don't think so

@kiernoify

Жыл бұрын

Lol them sneaky frenchies

@benoitguillou3146

Жыл бұрын

@@kiernoify USA financed Hitler after the weimar hyperinflation , then after letting Hitler roll on Europe pretexting "isolationnism" , came to "save" Europe by carpet bombing it and susbequently imposing a giant Marshall plan shark loan to buy their shitty american made products , now that european industry was on it's knees ..... Now that's SNEAKY .... But it's not astonishing from an ex convict colony , that departed from catholic authority and created an more convenient protestant religion because it allowed to kill of the local indian population because they were deemed inferior , by giving them polio infested blankets ......

@fantasyfinders

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha

Мдя, избавиться от такой посудины якобы из-за асбеста в конструкции, да еще и пойти тем самым на экологическое преступление - очень похоже на вынужденную меру под надуманным предлогом.

Brazil : sails the ship to Turkey which accepted to decontaminate and dismantle the ship Environnementalists : organizing strikes in Turkey to prevent the decontamination in Turkey from happening WHILE the ship was on its way for Turkey Brazil : sunks the decaying ship in a safe way to prevent a deadly incident because no other harbors in the world want problems with environementalists Environementalists : " wait thats illegal ! "

@bigmacstack3468

8 ай бұрын

Is that actually true though?

@NostraDahut

8 ай бұрын

@@bigmacstack3468 Environnementalists organized a strike in Turkey when they heard about the warship beeing sold to a turkish shipyard for decontamination and scraping. Once the warship left Brazil for Turkey, the environnementalist strike succedeed and the shipyard canceled the operation. Thus the warship had lost the right to enter in Turkey while it was already on its way to reach the country, and didnt have the right to enter in any other harbor in the world because of worldwide anti-absergo and environnementalism policies. The warship was badly decaying during its trip between Brazil and Turkey, a few holes caused by rust were filling the hull with ocean water and the only way to get rid of the warship without endengering the crew was by scuttling the warship while they still had the control over the warship.

Asbestos occurs naturally in aggregate form. Having wet on the sea bed does absolutely no harm in any way. Every feature on the seabed promotes sea life. There could not have been a better use for it.

@mill2712

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the knowledge drop. Though some comments are concerned that asbestos might not be the only dangerous substance on that carrier or that they did a good job cleaning it up.

@lol-ye5lg

Жыл бұрын

recycling is a better use.

@generationfallout5189

Жыл бұрын

It will break down. Wash up on the beach. Dry on the sand. Get inhaled by beach goers.

@grecco_buckliano

Жыл бұрын

@@generationfallout5189 Link to ONE TIME that has ever happened. (pro tip : it never has)

@generationfallout5189

Жыл бұрын

@@grecco_buckliano Everything breaks down in the oceans. The waters circulate. Currents carry nutrients here and there. The ocean is far from stagnant. Humanity always wants things to be simple but they very rarely are hombre.

Environmentalists are horrified by the controlled sinking meanwhile, environmentalists agitated to stop the ship from being sold for scrap or brought into harbor for remediation.

@poucxs9246

Жыл бұрын

I think that environmentalists can only be happy once all electricity is produced by people on hometrainers.

@ilo3456

Жыл бұрын

The question is if they did remove the Asbestos Lining from the ship in a yard before sinking it, because if not then eventually that Asbestos is going to find its way into the ocean

@alexnaismith351

Жыл бұрын

@@ilo3456 then what about all the ww1 and ww2 ships with asbestos that sunk while active?

@Stoicswimfish

Жыл бұрын

@@ilo3456 Kinda doubt that they did remove the asbestos. As I recall the reason that the ship was denied passage into the Mediterranean for scrapping was due to the presence of asbestos and that lead to the situation of it being stuck off shore until the scuttling.

@PhoenixFires

Жыл бұрын

​@@alexnaismith351 Eventually all that asbestos will find its way through the foodchain, killing billions of creatures over the next century or two. But those were sunk during a time of war and when environmentalism wasn't that big a deal.

Rather than complaining about it perhaps Environmentalists could proposed solutions?

Warship again destroyed from eradicator mk IV💀

The people who are offended by this all live in America and if they're offended by that then please do not swim off the coast of New Jersey where there are hundreds of rusting barrels of nuclear waste. What's more detrimental to the environment a crummy aircraft Carrier or hundreds of barrels of nuclear rods and waste

Now Lawyers are sending fish notices about mesothelioma lawsuits

@ablewindsor1459

Жыл бұрын

Cheers 🥂🥂🥂

@DillonHathaway

Жыл бұрын

Seems bad for the fish though lol

1) they actually removed an cleaned the ship of a lot of the asbestos. In the end, the hardest parts to clean would probably end up polluting more. So actually sinking it away from everything was kinda the least worse they could do. 2) to me, an aircraft carrier never made much sense to Brazilian doctrine. Thank God it sank. Too bad it took so long.

@lucascamelo3079

Жыл бұрын

We need more submariners, specially nuclear ones

@josecarlosamador

Жыл бұрын

@@lucascamelo3079 we need a lot of stuff. Aircraft carriers are kinda the "last step" of a fleet, meaning we'd need much better ships and in bigger quantity. Also, carriers are, doctrine wise, used to project power abroad, something that makes zero sense to Brazil's geopolitics.

@Ketoku_fr

Жыл бұрын

​@@josecarlosamador In order for a navy to effectively utilize a carrier, they first have to have a relatively strong fleet of escort ships

@Eduardo-789

Жыл бұрын

@@josecarlosamador , concordo contigo. E o Brasil até projeta poder nas missões internacionais de paz que colabora com a ONU, mas um porta-aviões não tem utilidade direta neste caso. Mais inútil ainda é um porta-aviões sem strike group, caso em que se transforma num enorme alvo flutuante.

@blurredlines2287

Жыл бұрын

Why couldn’t they save it? Just remove the asbestos.

I think it’s Brazils problem

Oh that's great. Not like we haven't put enough junk in the ocean.

Asbestos is not dangerous underwater

@benh5774

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@StephenButlerOne

Жыл бұрын

As long as the fish don't start to remodel it 😉

@gregh7457

Жыл бұрын

@@StephenButlerOne fish don't have lungs

@StephenButlerOne

Жыл бұрын

@@gregh7457 they don't do diy either you div

@Synthwave89

Жыл бұрын

Source?

It will become an artificial reef, a hotspot of biodiversity

@brianbozo2447

Жыл бұрын

Not at 5000m! But as it degrades it will enter the foodchain. cancel that Lobster Bisque in Rio! I they could have keep it as a floating museum or hotel to recoup taxpayers money rather than just to throw it away!

@ArmedSpaghet

Жыл бұрын

@@brianbozo2447 its Brazil. The government is way beyond “retarded” levels.

@yuri30027

Жыл бұрын

​@@brianbozo2447A ship with a history of problems.... So no, there was no other way to be operated on.

@zee9709

Жыл бұрын

its too deep for a reef

@vineleak7676

Жыл бұрын

@@zee9709 no it is not, it will be covered by deep sea sponges, crustaceans and molusks

I think if the people of a free nation DOESNT WANT THEIR COUNTRY doing something then THE POLITICIANS SHOULD NOT DO IT.

Imagine how much material they could have salvaged from it. Ah well, minerals grow back anyway, amirite? 🙄

This is fine, US Navy did this back in the day with the Oriskany and now it's a diving spot, plus it's underwater, it's no longer floating in the air and it's not gonna kill anyone.

@johnnyrebel4real166

Жыл бұрын

"floating in the air""not gonna kill anyone" the most idiotic hippie statement ever

@based854

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyrebel4real166he’s referring to the asbestos, not the aircraft carrier, idiot.

It is now a great home for Marine life. Great idea.

@torpedotorben

Жыл бұрын

I don't know a lot of asbestos but don't you think if it's that dangerous to humans, it would also be dangerous to animals?

@ottovonbismarck2913

Жыл бұрын

​@@torpedotorben No, asbestos is not toxic, it is like small needles pieces. When it's wet it's not harmful, when it's dry and it's dust in air, you breathe and they stab your lungs

@angelaferkel7922

Жыл бұрын

​@@torpedotorben do you even have an idea what asbestos is?

@torpedotorben

Жыл бұрын

@@angelaferkel7922 The EPA states those who consume water with higher than that amount over extended periods may face an increased risk of developing benign intestinal polyps. Another recent study, however, has shown asbestos in drinking water could potentially lead to the risk of cancer, including mesothelioma... do you even have an idea what asbestos is angela?

@deathbringer9893

Жыл бұрын

@@torpedotorben source please

Yeah The Foch, that was its name. It was sold to Brazil after being used for 40 years by the French navy

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

3 ай бұрын

well you can see France saw Brazil coming🤣🤣🤣

5000 meters is over 3 miles. Anything living 3 miles underwater in the pitch black I'm perfectly ok with becoming endangered or extinct.

Repose in peace Carrier Foch

Where do people think most ships end up? In America we use old ships as target practice and send them to the deep. I’m sure more than a few had asbestos lol.

@Kenneth-cn8dx

Жыл бұрын

Nearly every one would have had asbestos inside. Won't do any damage underwater just like it doesn't when it's underground

@manuel.camelo

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that a waste of STEEL?

@LcsGil

Жыл бұрын

​@@manuel.camelo it is cheaper to mine and produce from 0 than to recycle this metal

@manuel.camelo

Жыл бұрын

@@LcsGil 👁️👃👁️ That's weird.. but thanks for sharing this issue. 🙏

@STerkskz

Жыл бұрын

Brazil goes in America

Where were all the environmentalists when they needed people to get in there with all the toxic material to decommission the ship? If they care so much they should’ve volunteered.

Lucky for me I have to pay $1 for a bag at the store instead of $0.25 as it was before we got "plastic taxes", cause we in Sweden, as one of the cleanest countries of the world, ruins so much of the global enviroment that taxes for plastic was urgently needed.

It was starting to act like the Admiral Kuznetsov. The Brazilians are kind enough to put the poor thing down.

@TheHuffmanator

Жыл бұрын

She's still fit and operational...the hell are you on about?

@nate0765

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheHuffmanator The Admiral Kuznetsov has a history of disasters and mishaps. Russia struggles to keep it functional let alone ready for deployment. When it is deployed it usually has a tugboat following because they don't trust that it'll make it home under its own power.

@TheHuffmanator

Жыл бұрын

@@nate0765 ...that's the point bub...

As long as it has the major toxic materials removed it could end up being good acting as an artificial reef

@Bot-ov2hs

Жыл бұрын

they werent removed

@astatine5781

Жыл бұрын

@@Bot-ov2hs he knows that’s why he’s commenting it to inform other people.

@consaka1

Жыл бұрын

And which toxic material would that be?

@astatine5781

Жыл бұрын

@@consaka1 asbestos and possibly radioactive material depending on how the aircraft carrier was powered.

@l.bakker7563

Жыл бұрын

​@@astatine5781 Asbestos is safe as long it is not tampered with. The ship was powered by a conventional engine powering steam turbines which powered the driveshaft

Brazil is one of the most corrupt and bureaucratic countries in the world. We have a homeless crisis, educational crisis and healthcare crisis. It is absurd that such a huge carrier could not (again, due to corruption and bureaucracy) be retrofitted into something else. "Ohh, Abestos is dangerous", 80% of all slumb roofs are made of Abestos!!! There are still Abestos water tanks being used in tons of places.

It's hard to say. The video implied there was other hazardous materials, so what exactly was on it when it sank? I don't think the asbestos will venture far from the ship, as it will usually be in panels and such, which ocean live will coat and seal in not long. I mean, the common alternative would have been to ground the ship in India, which is what a lot of other countries did for quite a while. Hopefully the fact that the video implied it could means India has gotten a lot better about asbestos safety. Lots of people over there worked with asbestos with zero safety equipment for a long time. I remember videos of guys in nothing more than underwear fluffing asbestos and tossing it up in the air. They likely have all died horrific deaths. If the only choices were to sink it and send it to some country that doesn't protect its workers, I would go with sinking. On the other hand, likely the ship could have been dismantled safely, but at great cost, which means they probably just didn't want to spend anything on it. That's different. These countries should be obl8flgated to clean up the messes they make. The cost is a lesson to not repeat such choices in the future. They bought the ship at a time when they should have known the repercussions. Asbestos issues were well known back then.

When you have an aircraft carrier you don't ask for permission to dock in the port

@Slieem

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t make you lawless…

@Darth_Supremas

Жыл бұрын

Its a government owned ship but the government also controls the war docks that aircraft carriers can dock at so rather than endanger the lives of the crew they just has it wait at bay and got to dock on dinghies

@eyedunno8462

Жыл бұрын

Counterpoint: The missles on land are bigger than missles on boat

@andretoles9505

Жыл бұрын

In your own port you mean

@hobomike6935

Жыл бұрын

I thought the government can do anything it wants, even commit blatant crimes, with total impunity? Or is that only the US government?

You know, sunken ships create homes for marine life.

@AllonKirtchik

Жыл бұрын

When they’re not full of oil that is

@FrozenHaxor

Жыл бұрын

Not at depth of 5 kilometers...

@gujwdhufjijjpo9740

Жыл бұрын

@@AllonKirtchik - I doubt they would’ve left oil in it. The toxic material left beyond was asbestos as no one wants it.

@Aelxi

Жыл бұрын

True. The ship had already emptied her oil and will be good place for deep sea life. Even in deeper wrecks found in the Pacific there still tons of prosperous marine life.

@zombiejelly4111

Жыл бұрын

@@AllonKirtchik it wasn’t full of oil…..nice try tho

Thinking, to begin with, about who -- effectively -- made money for buying that piece of sh*t from its creator !

I'd say they wasted a perfectly good aircraft carrier 🤷 .......

That's not really an environmental issue and shipwrecks can work as an artificial reef for fishes.

@carlosceschini4104

Жыл бұрын

Artificial reef at 5000 meters deep?

@aapopesonen2902

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosceschini4104 Maybe not in this occasion but often on shallowish waters.

All of a sudden everyone became an asbestos scientist

@tangent.arc38618

Жыл бұрын

Armchair researchers

@benoitguillou3146

Жыл бұрын

On the other hand , REAL asbestos scientists in the 60s thought it was such an harmless substance they were seeing no harm in commercializing it ^^ But all in all , i agree with the utter annoyance of comment section improvised " experts " ...

@jimothyj2638

Жыл бұрын

And they’re not mentioning the heavy metals

@I-KOMET

Жыл бұрын

everyone on the internet instantly gains an bachelor's degree on a certain topic just to win an argument

@guilhem3739

Жыл бұрын

@@I-KOMET Not everyone but some have a degree in geochemistry and mineralogy indeed.

Should have given the environmentalists the option to take it and dispose of it how they'd like. And when they inevitably can't, then the military can sink it. Environmentalists couldn't complain then, because they had their chance at it and they passed it up.

“Bruh-zile” 💀

Have these people HEARD of asbestosis? I’d have sunk it myself

The environmentalists should have been allowed aboard ship before it was sank.

@ArmedSpaghet

Жыл бұрын

Why.

@Aelxi

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they'll come over to the ship because they're busy checking their twitter notifications.

No nation is really caring for the environment. The USA, France, UK have also polluted oceans the same way.

There is no law governing the pollution of environment within a country’s territorial waters. And it’s not even an actively toxic chemical. So since it’s done within Brazil’s EEZ, that’s fine

J'ai navigué sur ce Navire en 1996 , il vivait alors ces dernière années de service sous pavillon Français. Je suis triste qu'il ai fini de cette manière.

@agustinenzoa4447

Жыл бұрын

It was a piece of junk sh1t aircraft carrier, like most 3rd tier ship your contry produces!! WW2 technology.

@atlanteu

Жыл бұрын

@@agustinenzoa4447 Et dans ton pays on ne t'apprend pas le respect!?

@_just_another_filthy_redcoat

Жыл бұрын

Fair winds and following seas to the ald girl and your self 🤙 Tis sad to see any ship with history go….

@DrDrops420

Жыл бұрын

je vois. je suis content d'avoir pu lire ton commentaire, comment était l'état du Navire l'année donc tu as navigué sur?

@atlanteu

Жыл бұрын

@@DrDrops420 Bonjour; oui j'étais affecté sur ce navire en 1996 et pour un navire de plus de trente ans déjà et d'une ancienne technologie il était en très bon état! l'entretien y était rigoureux et constant.

Future archaeologists are gonna find the ship and be like “wow this ship must have been sunken in a great battle thousands of years ago” Nah mate, absestos.

@QWERTY-gp8fd

11 ай бұрын

not really. the sinking is already documented.

@Sampsonoff

6 ай бұрын

The great Battle to Breathe

@thegrayseed2792

5 ай бұрын

The Mesothelioma War.

@richardstrauser6216

2 ай бұрын

More likely that tiny bacteria will eat away at all of the iron content and leave a giant pile of asbestos and brass down there given a couple thousand years.

@DougMickey

Ай бұрын

​​@@QWERTY-gp8fda lot of data today may very well be lost in a couple hundred years. If future militaries deliberately started targeting large data storage centers around the world. then most archived data will be lost and never regained.

I think it's fine. We're screwing up our environment anyways. Why stop now?

@mr.iforgot3062

5 ай бұрын

I agree. Your pretty attentive.

if the environmentalist want it so bad let them go down there and get or they can shut because they didn't do anything for it when it was up besides complain.....

@Aelxi

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@antera1524

Жыл бұрын

So the government shouldn't do its job?

@redalertsteve_

Жыл бұрын

@@antera1524 they did their jobs. But most of the public doesn’t understand what problems occur in these old ass ships. And tbh it’s getting ready annoying having to explain it all the time

@picupyourcross216

Жыл бұрын

@@antera1524 what are you talking about? Go live there if want the government to work oh wait they don't shit crap here either besides give us inflation n crime

@executioner5148

Жыл бұрын

@@redalertsteve_ do explain it

People won't let it dock so they can remove the toxic materials. People get upset when they sink it since they can no longer afford it

@Peakfreud

Жыл бұрын

People do jumping jacks Then Get upset when their ankles hurt. People finding hypocrisy in, people is always fascinating

The ship exist no matter what. 5000 meters (literally 3+ miles) below the surface seems to be the lesser of two evils.

So... environmentalists don't want a new Coral Reef off the coast then? Because I'd say that's a boon to the environment, not harm... As long as the fuels and oils were removed, there's nothing wrong with this. It's great for sea life!

@thecaynuck

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video? They sunk it because there was toxic materials onboard. When ships are sunk to make artificial reefs, they are cleared of any toxic materials so it doesn't harm the environment.

@ilikecinema1234

Жыл бұрын

Don't you love when a cancer comes onto a beautiful planet and gets to decide what's good and what's not good for the life on the planet.

@carbinationXptah

Жыл бұрын

​@@ilikecinema1234 don't u get it environmentalist don't want anything in the ocean and someone put a carrier full of toxic in the Atlantic ocean 😅 some people react when it's to late

@ilikecinema1234

Жыл бұрын

@DawnHadu This aircraft carrier, whether it had toxic materials or not, is a small fraction of what has been done to this planet, don't you get it?

@kauawolfbrpudin

Жыл бұрын

​@@carbinationXptah abaestus dont even harm the enviroment when on Water,its just dangerous when it is in the war,brazil is not dumb bro

What else were they gonna do with it? Give it to the environmentalists so they can snort it like c'cain? I'd actually like to see that.

It's the pcb's, lead paint, oil and fuels in the tanks that are the issue...

Well most people know environmentalists are the most educated people on Earth. Quite the contrary

Brazil should never have bought the pile of junk in the first place.

@user-sz3lu1ln3p

Жыл бұрын

It already belonged to Brazil for decades, it was sold because it was old and cost a lot to modernize it.

@_just_another_filthy_redcoat

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sz3lu1ln3p do you not think, especially with him saying “ in the first place “ He means the original sale back in the 60s?…..

@user-sz3lu1ln3p

Жыл бұрын

@@_just_another_filthy_redcoat It was a cheap aircraft carrier, and the government at the time was complicated, so it's an obvious answer.

@_just_another_filthy_redcoat

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sz3lu1ln3p that’s…. That’s got fuck all to do with what I just asked you… I asked did you possibly miss understand the original comment and you come back with that ? Weird deflection but you do you I guess

I wouldn't expect many people or animals would be breathing in asbestos dust when it's underwater.

@gerharddeusser9103

Жыл бұрын

Gills

@DarthGTB

Жыл бұрын

fish: am I a joke to you?

@joetroutt7425

Жыл бұрын

Aww, that stuff is the best when snorting that white powdery stuff. I call it asbestoscain.

@robbieroberts92

Жыл бұрын

So fish aren't animals now?

@idontknowadam2744

Жыл бұрын

Fish ingest and then we eat fish. Not hard to grasp

Brazil had sold this aircraft carrier to Turkey Where would it be dismantled, but when the aircraft carrier arrived close to Turkey, the Turks refused the ship because of the toxic materials.

Why again did they buy a ship 23 years ago that they now dont even let dock anymore? Did they not know about the construction materials?! Brazil is a comedy show on a whole new level. The change in power doesnt seem to have changed too much either, unfortunately.

O casco afundado não pertencia ao Brasil porque foi adquirido por uma empresa turca que o rebocou até a entrada do Mar Mediterrâneo. Tudo estava dentro da lei, mas as autoridades da Turquia mudaram de ideia por causa de protestos ecológicos da turma da Greta Thunberg e a empresa teve que rebocar o casco de volta ao Atlântico Sul. A empresa abandonou o casco à deriva em águas da zona econômica exclusiva do litoral do Brasil. O casco estava fraturado, a água invadia as galerias internas sem controle e a embarcação afundaria em menos de duas ou três semanas. A Marinha do Brasil fez o afundamento controlado do casco para não piorar a situação com outro desastre. O Brasil não era o proprietário do casco da embarcação que sua Marinha afundou.

@MrCyclejay1967

Жыл бұрын

Then why did the narrator say that it belonged to Brazil?

@agustinenzoa4447

Жыл бұрын

these things will always happen with a Socialist populist like Lula da Silva!! They are ECO TERRORISTS and very IRRESPONSIBLE!!! Nothing good is to be expected of your new government, I am so sorry.

What I think is that this has been done many times by many countries. With varying degrees of abatement and a variety of narratives such as "artificial reef for the fishies".

@JimmyKraktov

Жыл бұрын

No reef will be possible in 16 thousand feet of water.

Why does Brazil need a aircraft carrier anyway? Nobody’s going to war with brazil 😂. Unless they were planning to use it against themselves to clear out all the gangs in the Favelas

Environmentalists prevented the ship from entering a recycling facility in Turkey

The main problem is not the Asbestos (which is only a problem if you breath it in), the ship also contained long term poisonous stuff like PCB, a chemical nobody wants in the food chain. It was used in oils, for example transformer oil or special low flammable hydraulic oil. PCB belongs to the worst chemicals if they find their way into the environment. Ships sunk by the US as practise targets are stripped of such chemicals before they are used for targets

@FunYl

Жыл бұрын

Of course it was removed

@portrasdamascara8750

Жыл бұрын

This ship was out of service since 2012 soo no oil or hydraulic nothing more just the runaway was new refit in 2010

Environmentalists are always gonna find a reason to cry and complain. Good on Brazil for doing what they needed to do and moving on.

Brazil's navy and army is well known for its incompetence

Question for the environmental activists: What were they supposed to do with the ship? If they decontaminated it prior to sinking it the waste would have gone to some landfill. If they did nothing it would have been a danger to people in the immediate vicinity. It seems they were in a no win situation and all options suck.

"environmentalists": they could be completely stupid and have no idea what theyre talking about except regurgitating what someone on TV told them yet they all get classed together under this word as if they know what they are talking about.

@stereotype.6377

Жыл бұрын

Wow you’re right! Who even knows if asbestos is harmful?!

@kenetickups6146

Жыл бұрын

How's that deregulation going in ohio

@Urbicide

Жыл бұрын

@@stereotype.6377 Asbestos is only harmful if it becomes airborne & you happen to inhale it. Working with asbestos requires a fitted respirator with P-100 rated filter cartridges.

@zombiejelly4111

Жыл бұрын

@@stereotype.6377 asbestos is harmful when released into the air, also when a chemical reaction happens. But under water and at its depth it’s not gonna cause on lick of damage

@mosel9665

Жыл бұрын

Those environmentalists have a higher degree than you and probably make more money ;) That's why they can afford it.

I think Brazil activists needs to be more worried about crime than their environment.

@FlexedNoose

Жыл бұрын

Well the Amazon being actively vaporized is kinda bad for our oxygen

@holdtheline8814

Жыл бұрын

​@@FlexedNoose Uhh no? 85% of the oxygen comes from the ocean and not trees.

@FlexedNoose

Жыл бұрын

@@holdtheline8814 still, destroying one of if not the largest forest on the planet will not make our species breathe any better. Nor will it for the global temperature which has been rising steadily for 150 years.

It's a no-win with environmentalists. Hell, they don't even have ideas.

The ocean is not a garbage can! Yes this a crime against humanity!

@subjectc7505

3 ай бұрын

It's tons of ships in the ocean dude and they create homes are sea creatures

Vários países adotam essa prática. Mais qdo o Brasil faz isso um monte de hipócritas metem o nariz....

@kannonball5789

Жыл бұрын

Those countries also decontaminate their ships before scuttling them. The issue isn't that Brazil scuttled the São Paulo. The issue is that they left the asbestos in. Fuck off and stop being intentionally obtuse.

@vlademirbenevides9850

Жыл бұрын

@@kannonball5789 vc acredita nisso. O seu pais afundou muito material bélico na costa de Miami, e vc acha que foi descontaminado......

@LipeSun

Жыл бұрын

Pq deveriam ter várias outras formas de utilizar o navio ou outros países que poderiam talvez comprar ele mas o governo preferiu desperdiçar as chances só afunda-lo

@zombiejelly4111

Жыл бұрын

@@LipeSun no and I mean no country wanted to buy the ship…is old really old, outdated and is full of cancer causing asbestos. The ship wasn’t even allowed to dock anywhere in the world so it was unsafe and useless.

@roraimaball1947

Жыл бұрын

​@@LipeSun eles fizeram, venderam a uma companhia turca que iria desmontar o mesmo, porém por causa dos materiais químicos o mesmo foi barrado de entrar na Turquia e assim retornou ao Brasil para ser afundado visto que não teriam outras opções para o mesmo, ele já era uma carcaça velha e já estava desativado a anos, querer fazer qualquer coisa com ele custaria um dinheiro que em uma transição de governos não valeria a pena e seria facilmente engavetado, afundar o navio era a melhor opção visto que mantê-lo para uma eventual compra seria inviável.

Turning it into a reef is probably doing the environment a favor. The environmentalists going nuts over it is just more evidence of how the environmentalist movement operates on emotion rather than logic.

@stereotype.6377

Жыл бұрын

Lmao as if asbestos isn’t harmful? Yeah they’re all super emotional and don’t actually know anything about what is good for nature haha