For a group that usually has things like "Love and Tolerance" in their Twitter Bio's... it turned out they were capable of so much hate it would make a brown shirt blush.

She never once said or hinted Dumbledore was gay in the books and the same thing with turing Hermione black. It's been stated over and over how she looks in the book, so for me this just feels disingenuous

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

It really did feel like retroactive pandering. The irony being that she opened the door to be more inclusive only to have the same group screaming for her head years later.

@freman007

5 ай бұрын

@@workingjellyfish Yes, you can produce material that is too progressive for a conservative audience, but you can never make material progressive enough for a progressive audience.

@KatarinaBohtana

4 ай бұрын

@@freman007 This isn't true, only for twitter leftists and/or those who aren't actually fans of the IP or game in question. Twitter is comparable to 4chan in regards of unhinged political takes, so I don't know why people are still pointing to it as genuine leftist analysis on anything. (And considering what happened with X and Elon, this is becoming less prominent as X cracks down.)

@michaelhoffmann2891

4 ай бұрын

@@freman007 Which leads progressives/"the left" to eat/destroy itself, so that conservatives/"the right" can sweep up the remainders oh so easily. 🤦‍♂

The thing is the fella and the girl who is on the edge of tears are still trying to grovel to these people. They don’t care what you say…..why even try to explain yourself?

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

To paraphrase a great man: “some people aren’t looking for anything logical. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some people just want to watch the world burn”.

@freman007

5 ай бұрын

@@MrEntinen If "trans rights" means making nonsense statements like "transwomen are women" or, as happened in Scotland, putting a double-rapist in a woman's prison because he claims to be a woman, well... fuck them. Not literally of course. Nobody wants to do that.

@wesleythomas7125

4 ай бұрын

That's why I liked Silvermane's reaction so much. Tell 'em to eat 💩 and do it anyways.

@Chairman_Wang

3 ай бұрын

@@MrEntinenlol cope harder. The game does nothing for and against. You can’t even define what “trans exclusionary” actions Rowling even did.

I don't see eye to eye with Rowling on much. And I believe the whole Dumbledor being gay thing was just away to score points. But I respect her for being one of the few who stood by her statements when the mob came.

Top selling game of the year, not a single nomination at the videogame awards. They even bended a knee and put a trans character in this game, which is based in the 1800s, and made a note to constantly remind your character that everyone in the game loves them.

@FanksCast

2 ай бұрын

Yeah that felt so forced, pretty sure you can be trans yourself too by giving you the option to play with any voice you want despite your characters gender.

But late to this but my favorite part was all the verbal gymnastics game outlets did because they knew they had to cover the game when in reality if they were really opposed to JK they wouldn’t have talked about the game at all and gave it free publicity.

the cuts from Pocahontas were an unexpected dose of nostalgia, but also: Imagine a modern Disney live action remake of Pocahontas LMAO. HOLY it'd be as subtle as Joe-111.

for me all the attempted boycott did was get me to pre order it, I knew i was probably gonna buy it after release but then I heard how much some extremely toxic people didn't like it and went "might as well buy it now instead of waiting" my only real complaint about the game is that you being a dark wizard has zero impact on the game other than knowing 3 new spells, still hasn't stopped me from completeing 5 playthroughs so far

I've been following this shit show for almost 3 weeks now, and it is most ironic: #HogwartsLegacy is a game where you can literally kill someone with a word/sentence and it's critics/bullies are basically applying this to real life.

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

It's been a wild ride, for sure.

@inotaishu1

Жыл бұрын

@@workingjellyfish yeah, makes we wonder, after 20 years of people going after Rowling (witchcraft, racism, transphobia etc.), I wonder what will be the next thing.

The "it's okay when we do it" from the fringe left is baffling lmao

Who says that "physical gender" (avoiding the real word due to censorbots) is fake? I've never heard someone say that. Psychological gender is a separate concept from that.

@alexanderd6793

5 ай бұрын

To be honest the entire concept of what we consider socially a woman and man is incredibly complex, it's tied in with many behaviors and that's why it's very hard to answer the question of "what is a woman" because the definition is very often changing because of societal norms. Doesn't change the fact physical gender exists tho, there's nothing to disprove there, it's just reality(talking genitals and so on more than brain, that's different).

@theuncalledfor

5 ай бұрын

@@alexanderd6793 I've literally never once seen a person claim that physical gender doesn't exist, so I don't understand why people are arguing against that claim as if trans people just in general were saying that. They're not. They're aware of the physical reality, they just want to be treated as their psychologically correct gender, complete with using the psychologically correct terminology. Maybe there are a rare few people who do make that claim, but the vast majority of trans people disagree with them just as much as cis people do.

@freman007

5 ай бұрын

@@theuncalledfor So next you'll want us to be listening to the voices of people suffering audio hallucinations, and taking them seriously. There is no "psychologically correct gender" because the idea that sex and gender are different things is nonsense created by perverts like John Money. To claim that there is some "gender specific activity" outside reproduction, is to deny a century of feminism, which argued that men and women could fulfil the same roles if needed. Chauvanists: Only girls play with dolls. Feminists: Anyone can play with dolls. Gender-theorists: If you play with dolls, you're a girl.

@KatarinaBohtana

4 ай бұрын

@@freman007 "There is no "psychologically correct gender" because the idea that sex and gender are different things is nonsense created by perverts like John Money." There is no "psychological gender" or "physical gender." Sex is essentially physical, while gender is essentially socialization. This is not a "created idea by perverts." Also who tf are "gender-theorists" according to your *totally genuous* views?

Just found your channel, enjoy your breakdowns. Your take on why people hate Disney SW was epic and made me reminisce about Mr Plinkets reviews. Good luck on your channel, I’ve been going through your other videos and while I’m not a fan of all the IPs it’s easy to empathize with other nerds who feel modern adaptations are bleak activist made crap. Big fan of the Halo books; more so than my kids love of the games (adults now), and I can’t believe the best take we got on it was Forward until Dawn. Hope this era crashes and burns as soon as possible. Really didn’t think it would last this long.

@workingjellyfish

3 ай бұрын

Thanks mate, I too am a big fan of the Halo novels and still struggle to accept that the best live action Halo remains three trailers and FUD...

The tweets are hilarious, they seriously think rowling lost a whole generation, maybe this failed boycott is a wake up call and they realize that they aren't all that important and the mainstream is at best giving lip service and no one is going out of their way to please them. Honestly i wish i could read minds to see what people really think about this stuff since i meet new people all the time but in RL never found someone who supported the more controversial opinions they hold like transwomen are real women. It feels like this is just a phenomenon on the internet and even there i think some activists just agree to not get shunned at this point.

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

Some of them definitely lack the ability to see other perspectives and that lack of empathy can turn nasty really quickly.

To be honest, I never saw the real issue here, Boycoting the game did nothing to hurt Rowling, she already had her money, all a boycot was going to do was hurt the company and the staff who worked for it. And at the end of the day, she has a right to her opinion, sometimes people with a certain level of platform and status should think very hard and twice about sharing it on said platform, but they absolutely have a right to have that opinion. The great thing about opinions though, is that you don't actually have to listen to them, that's also a right you have as a human. The "well actually" crowd would do well to remember the "think twice" statement I made earlier. Having said that though, as a gay man (I grew up in the 80's and 90's when the struggle was very real, kids today should show more respect for that in this humble kiwi's opinion!) I am often appalled at how my "community" has developed in recent years, what's the phrase? "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to become the villain!" I truly believe that is what we are seeing here. Back in my day there was only LGB, because that was all we needed, with everyone fitting nicely into one of tyhose categories. Gender wasn't an issue, it was who you loved that counted! Now theres all manner of extra baggage involved by elements so desperate for validation that they are gloming onto our struggle and coopting it into something very dark. The sad thing about that, is it's often the "allies" more than anyone else, who show the biggest outrage, out of some show of righteousness, because people today need to be offended I guess? But it tars us all with the same brush and that makes me very sad, for myself and for humanity as a whole, can we seriously not all just get along, have we not all evolved to that point yet? Sometimes I yearn for a much simpler time. Having said all that, I've only just found your channel, but I am thoroughly enjoying it. Keep at it mate.

@workingjellyfish

7 ай бұрын

Some of the best advice I ever received was, “opinions are free advice, and they are worth as much as they cost”. It has served me well thus far. Welcome to the sheltered harbour, mate, you are most welcome here. I’m glad you’re enjoying my salty shenanigans.

I love Harry Potter. I read the books, seen the movies and also read a lot of fanfiction. Recently all my childhood favourite stories have been ruined: Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, Iron Man, X-Men, Batman, etc. Apparently there will be a HP remake and something tells me they will find a way to butcher Harry Potter too.

Twiddle doo Jellyfish! Or however you fish people congratulate one another. I really enjoy the way you take on this subject and wish we could torpedo some sense into those who thought it fair game to take someone's death as a "win" for their battle... Those harbour rules should be more vastly applied...

what happens is that people confuses "defending one group with attacking another" or "attacking a group with defending another" JKR isn't attacking any group, she is just defending hers.

@brotbrotsen1100

Жыл бұрын

The "transphobic" label is a joke anyway, they consider you a transphobe if you disagree with the simplest things. If 10 years ago you were cool with trans people you were liberal, if you are cool with trans people now but you don't agree that they are 100% the sex they identify as, you are a transphobe and that makes you everything else in their eyes as well. So you are now also right wing, conservative, alt right, n*zi, sexist and all that good stuff. You litterally become the enemy and all your other views don't matter at all anymore. This is where the cult comparison comes from, you get shunned by them for not being 100% into the faith. And if you look up all the characteristics of a cult it is scary how close these people resemble it, it isn't just a joke any more it became reality.

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, there is no middle ground anymore.

All this fight for a inofensive mid open world game with harry Potter theme

10:33 that abridged song from beauty and the beast is a nice touch. good mirror of what's going on.

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you liked it - it was fun to put together.

Would definitely enjoy a review of the game

If it helps, there are a lot of gays and lesbians (myself included) who have no problems with the game or JK Rowling. Its a very vocal online minority who just scream loudly.

I wanna see grand theft auto harry potter and I wanna see scarface harry potter and Mafia harry potter. And super Mario gangster style.

Love Major Payne, was a funny movie.

Cyberpunk harry potter make those 2 together

Just to spite I'm going to buy the game. Had 0 interest in it thus far for reasons that basically can be summed as I am addicted to Yakuza game series. But after this video? Going to at least give it a try

Very informative video WJ. Honestly we should have seen Rowling's views on the matter earlier. Given how the forth book explains how one of the villains escaped prison by using the Polyjuice potion to switch places with his mother. And like, she later died in prison and he suffers a fate worse than death via Dementor Kiss at the end of the book. But then I'm also reminded of the fifth book and how Umbridge tries to ban an interview Harry gave and it all but guarantees that everyone reads it. I was unaware of the reaction around Robbie Coltrane. Well it was a good thing. His passing hurt so I don't know how I'd have reacted if I saw that.

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, bro. If anything like me, not well.

@sidnew2739

6 ай бұрын

You can of course explain what these story beats have to do with the subject matter?

24:03 “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all” - a squid “Hormone therapy is just a new kind of conversion therapy for young gay people”- J.K. Rowling, just a nice lady saying women are women, that’s all. 🤔

This is why i just stick to fallout new Vegas cant beat a classic and they dont make em likd they used to 😂

You know what's really weird? There's people making money selling book covers for the Harry Potter books that have Rowling's name removed from them, and people are presenting that as a W... And I just. READ ANOTHER BOOK! Any other book! There's an unending world of worlds of fiction to explore! Hell. Dragonriders of Pern. Or go read Dune or some shit. Read the Lord of the Rings and come to understand why the Rings of Power are the equivalent of fan art made by a chimp smearing his feces on paper! There's lots of options! Hell, almost everyone watching this video's literate. Write your own book! I have! I'm working on the fifth one now. You can do it! Any way, I had a lot of fun with Hogwarts Legacy. As did my wife. We're both hoping they come back with a more feature complete game in the near future. (Quidditch. More spells. More depth and less breadth in terms of mechanics, etc) One that hopefully will spend more time at the actual castle instead of sending us out to fight goblins in the woods like the devs are running their first ever DND campaign.

LOL I love YOURE “this will literally be used as a reference of cyber bullying.in the future you my friend are very smart just the way you take we need more people with YOURE approach

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, mate.

Need to stop playing middle road on this issue, these people are crazy nothing jk said was wrong in any sense of the word in fact was completely correct in every sense of the world. Can be true that the person has a bad position and yet has great work like your Tom example, but it can also be the case that the person holds an objectively correct position and great work like jk on the trans issue and her universe of Harry Potter.

J k Rowling and the fans have ruined everything! The pointless war has ruined a good game I hope you’re proud of yourselves. I hate modern society

19:10 So… the young actors are just ignorant twitter justice trend seekers, but JK jumping in line with the weird anti-trans fringe feminists she found on twitter is.. different? Also who cares if she “made their careers”- am I not supposed to criticize the guy that invented the telephone because I owe my livelihood to working for a call center? Just an odd dig for no reason it seems.

And at one point, if this video blows up and social media gets weirder, people will reference 34:18 "There! He admitted it! He is a car!" XD

Oh, they tried the same with anime streamers. One quit, the fans went from ally to rabid. The other streamers cried a bit but then stopped groweling. A silly pink rabbit even kicked back. And as not a fan of either side of the Rowling saga nor of the franchise, the rabbit was funny.

@HelghastStalker

6 ай бұрын

Oh no, it didn't just end there. The honest-to-goodness TALIBAN and multiple political extremist groups, most of whom absolutely mutually despise each other, banded together to defend Pikamee. Let me repeat this: When radical Islamic extremists and actual militant Fascists are the *good guys* compared to you, you know you have sunk to some truly evil depths.

Thank you for not attacking either political side. I grow weary of being insulted because of my newly acquired conservative opinions. I left the liberal side over this very issue.

@workingjellyfish

6 ай бұрын

No worries, I find the quickest way to alienate potentially half my audience members is to get political and choose sides. I do my best to remain objective on that front.

@PyramidHeadsLacky

6 ай бұрын

@workingjellyfish your doing great work sir. Listened to several of your videos today, perfect content for truck driving Playlist.

I don’t equate someone mercilessly bullying someone for playing a game whose creator one disagrees with, and someone else buying said game to “own the libs” as being the “absolute worst of both sides.” Not even close, actually. I’ve seen nothing from the ostensible “other side” that even comes close to the viciousness, callousness, and outright immorality evinced by the far left. That sentiment really extends outward from the controversy over this game to… well, everything, really. Call me biased, but if you wanted to sell that statement, you ought to have included something from the “other side” (I hate speaking in terms like this for a multitude of reasons) that came anywhere near celebrating Robbie Coltrane’s death because he had the “wrong” opinions. As for separating the art from the artist, I listen to Varg Vikernes’ music. Not only is he an unrepentant murderer, he is a literal neo-Nazi. I feel absolutely zero internal moral conflict when listening to his records. It strikes me as weird as hell that some people apparently need the producers of the art they enjoy to be in total lockstep with them ideologically. Not that I am comparing Rowling to a neo-Nazi. She is pretty much right on in her assessment of the religion of LGBTQIAAP2+ (and I say this as a bisexual man who vomits blood at the idea of being considered part of that toxic and wholly politically driven “community”). The problem is, I wish she would realise how much her own ideology had to do with CREATING the conditions for her to have found herself in the position she is in. It was feminism (and Marxism generally) that worked so hard to flatten the difference between men and women, to the point of obliterating it. How can she be surprised to find men wanting in on her victimhood narrative..?

JK Rowling has always been an allay and staunch supporter of gay marriage. She didn't betray anyone in my opinion. Trans people kinda wiggled their way in somehow, and we welcomed them bc I think in general we are pretty accepting people. Over the years some LGB people have grown quite tired of the more radical trans activists. A lot of Lesbians in particular that agree with JK, and they're a lot less nice about it 😂 I think it's more accurate to say the Trans rights activists have a problem with her, not LGBT+ as a whole.

@freman007

5 ай бұрын

Yes, one of the MTF fantasies you see on places like Reddit is being able to pass well enough to fool a woman into a lesbian relationship, as if it's somehow possible to deceive a woman who's intimately familiar with a woman's body. But the fact that they want to deceive women into sex is an intent to commit rape.

It got really Riddikulus for me when I learned that some people seriously claim that her goblins would be antisemitic just because they have long noses and work in a bank. What a joke! Perhaps those people should think about their own weird thoughts. Sometimes goblins are just that- goblins. "....and several racist stereotypes in her books..." Like WHAT, for gods sake? "Harry Potter" is so obviously anti-racist!

@HelghastStalker

6 ай бұрын

The more someone bleats on about being "politically correct" and "tolerant", the more I wonder how reprehensible they really are.

It gladdened my heart the game did so well as it must have pissed off the woke brigade so very much

It was a mistake to ever give ground to the alphabet community.

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

What started as an olive branch of inclusiveness swiftly became a perpetual demand for more. A black hole in place of what should have been a rainbow.

@AmaryInkawult

Жыл бұрын

@@workingjellyfish humans have a long loooong history of getting the slightest hint of power and letting it get to their heads. This is not surprising in the slightest that assholes highjacked movements for more. What is was how fast it happened.

@AmaryInkawult

Жыл бұрын

But hey, at least these people have A LOT in common with Catholics and 90s Christians now.

@AmaryInkawult

Жыл бұрын

What I mean by that christian bit? One of my friends was witch hunted for playing a GBA Harry Potter game while in grade school by Christians during a camping trip.

@brotbrotsen1100

Жыл бұрын

​@@AmaryInkawult This! It absolutely feels like a new version of the satanic panic, maybe you could say "the satanic panic but adjusted for a modern audience" We went far past the inclusivity argument by now, it's about exclusion at this point. Let's see how long it takes till they make their own versions of hell houses.

"Oooo Gobboes are antisemitic! And viva Hamas these days" (same weirdos)

The quoted definition of TERF in your preamble is a ridiculous misdirect- as described, it might as well have been a definition for “mild bigot”- TERF stands for “Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist”, and describes a rather specific group within the greater umbrella of feminism. You go on to pretend that JK is just a sort of innocent victim in the battle for truth and honesty- just a lady trying to express herself and use words that mean what words mean… ignoring that she’s also gone out of her way to align with and repeat/retweet a number of prominent and active TERFS- people who regularly proselytize some horrible **** about trans people. She has allied and armored herself with a number of these vile types, and repeated numerous talking points of theirs, and has *continued to do so*. I liked your Star Wars videos and you seem like an intelligent guy- but starting your video with a manipulative mis-definition is pretty weak.

This is almost like the entire fight online with fromsoft game fans I will never understand how someone playing a game on easy will affect someone els playing the very same game on a harder difficulty Just because you have an opinion on something that you believe is wrong and do not like dose NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT too bully or constantly complain about someone doing that I am speaking from experience I am a gamer hand a work related injury no matter how hard I try I just can not get a job so I turn too gaming ( still looking for work) too keep me busy and not get worried and depressed because I can not get work I am ADHD and wear a hearing aid in each ear so it was always already hard too find work but having someone constantly harassing you bullying you because you are doing something that they do not agree with and do not like will not help with anything so why do it ?

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, just let people play the game.

@ZeroKitsune

5 ай бұрын

It doesn't, but easy modes aren't free to add, and they definitely aren't as simple to put in as some people make them out to be. Also a lot of the pushback is because a bunch of people stormed in and started DEMANDING that they had a RIGHT to a mode they could play, arguing that the game doesn't respect them as people because it asks them to devote time and effort to understanding it. I have no issue with it if the devs want to add an easy mode. I do take issue with people acting like they're somehow entitled to have one made for them. If you don't like the game, you can play a different game, there are a lot of them out there.

while i do agree that you arent a bad person for playing a video game and they kinda went pretty hard on the hate. but like the thing is, is that some people just cant escape into a video game. some people deal with sexism within those games, be it design, or players within those games. it would be pretty hard to escape into a game but theres no option for your skin color. look, if you know the harm that JK does, play it. i dont really care.

@LordTyph

Жыл бұрын

Why should skin color even matter if you're just trying to escape into the life of someone else? What you're talking about is a character customization issue not something like racism or whatever. That just more sounds like you want to inject yourself into a video game.

@richmadden622

Жыл бұрын

what harm would that be? Give me a concise answer not just "she's a transphobe cause people told me she is REEEEE"

@brotbrotsen1100

Жыл бұрын

Who deals with sexism within a game, some things just aren't that deep. I also don't get why it's always women who cry about it, they see a really good looking girl in sexy clothes and they cry sexism. A dude sees characters like kratos who are roided up to no end or your generic testosterone overdosed barbarian and we cheer for them and they become favorites. It's mostly the ones who don't even play games to begin with seeing how my ex loved Lara croft and my current GF went so far to have a bayonetta tattoo while my sister cosplays 2B every chance she gets. You guys don't even realize that you fight for a minority who would never go for the hobby even if you listen to every single one of their outbursts. You just have to look how things go everytime, woke games always end up underperforming and now we also saw how it goes when all the people who they try to include don't buy a game, it hardly did anything, maybe even ramped the numbers up. The simple fact is that they don't matter in this community, they storm in, demand everything, ruin it for everyone and no one ends up buying it because the product just turns into garbage.

@workingjellyfish

Жыл бұрын

Glad you agree - and I understand some people can’t / don’t use video games for their escapism. As for the rest of your comment, I’m a bit unsure as to your point.

@flamingmanure

6 ай бұрын

speaking as an arab, your entire comment sounds like alot of professional self victimizing. i use gaming as a destresser and a method of escape jus fine, i dont need the same gender or skin color to relate to someone in a story, and the ppl that do need some self reflection. " look, if you know the harm that JK does, play it. i dont really care." what harm exactly? could u explain? all she did was speak her opinion about trans ppl online, she has a right to her opinion, and the ppl that pretend to be harmed by her opinion online and act like victims (a laughable delusion at best) should just go or play somewhere else? whats hilarious is theres a freakin trans person in the freakin game XD the world of art and entertainment isnt made to cater to your individual feelings. get over it my friend. stop thinking everyone is a victim and live life.

T people being insufferable

The game sucked anyways LOL 😅 4GB update? Not even close. I installed Hogwarts Legacy off the disk, then hooked up the internet, and was greeted with a 100GB update to a brand new game. And as I said earlier, the game was garbage anyways. Such a massive waste.

@failedGraphics

6 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as "installing off the disk" anymore. ALL video games are digital these days. The disk is literally just a cd key to prove you actually own it.

@PickledShark

6 ай бұрын

@@failedGraphics That’s not true mate. My internet is terrible, so what I do now when I have a new game is turn the internet off entirely, put in the new disk, which starts the installation off the disk. Once complete, I can play to my hearts content so long as I don’t turn the internet back on, because that will prompt an update. If the internet is on when I put in I new disk, then it will bias the internet download rather than the disk which in my case takes about 10-20x longer. The file size is the same. Perhaps what you mean it is there is no longer such a thing as *playing* off a disk, which is true

@mostdumbestbitch

6 ай бұрын

The game is good, critic AND user reviews reflect that lol.

@woldemunster9244

5 ай бұрын

@@failedGraphics I can make a guess what is going on. This has to be a console gamer, either series X or thiccest PS5, those are the only ones with a disc drive. Sounds "weird" that a physical release has the game on disc, nice. Now i have to make guesses about that "internet" and the download size.... If it's a Soyny, then your internet speed doesn't matter and downloading anything from Soyny takes 5-10x longer but that 100gig size is propably the size of the whole game after patching. Games on console take long ass time to download but you can just let it install overnight or while you are at work. technology illiterate people do weird things.

That Tess Fowler bird seems to the one who's more hateful tbh.. She was probably experiencing her "Person Who Was Menstruating" time of the month when she wrote those Tweets though, based on how irritable she sounds. 😉