I honestly think every judge should have to explain their decisions after every fight. That or have Ngannou uppercut someone as a punishment for insane decisions. The bs would soon stop. Love you uncle Chael.

@drstevens16

4 жыл бұрын

Listen we cant be giving them the death sentence for bad judging... thats a little extreme.

@LJAndrews1986

4 жыл бұрын

Rofl agreed but the threat of it alone would be enough

@gunplaygaming6830

4 жыл бұрын

Lol at have a ngannou uppercut 😄 funny stuff.

@B-dawg95

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not inept judging. It’s corruption

@georgekarson6599

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!! Why are the judges treated like Gestapo nazis from the 1930s that can't be question. Fuck them judges teddy was right.

Rogan, Cruz and others need to keep calling it out when they see it.

@Reimastered

4 жыл бұрын

Dominick won't call shit out lmao

@jmpsthrufyre

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I was bad mouthing them but they did say some things that brought some shit to light. It just seems they are biased and don't speak their minds as much. I could be way off though.

@ProtectoroftheRealm

4 жыл бұрын

Bro it’s done on purpose to hide them rigging fights.

@gladtv7873

4 жыл бұрын

Bro Agree. Aside from doing that, Joe is really falling off in my opinion.

@gladtv7873

4 жыл бұрын

Jmpsthrufyre * 665 years ago You arent way off at all dude i agree. Joe is the biggest UFC shill known to man.

i think the judges should be penalized MONETARILY if caught NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR ON THEIR PHONES THIS IS A JOB LIKE ANY OTHER

@Jack_80

4 жыл бұрын

or making a call that nobody agrees with, like the judge that gave jones 4 rounds. in another video chael said that jones came out and said he didn't even agree with that. that's when you know that judge is either very biased or doesn't know what he's doing.

@joakimelfving9624

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jack_80 But the judge that got 4-1 jones had 2-3-4-5 for jones, the other judges had one 2-4-5 and one 3-4-5. So youre saying every judge had it wrong? That three judges should be penalized..

@bachatu77

4 жыл бұрын

What if the judge was watching the fight on he's phone ?

@furhadnasserjah123

4 жыл бұрын

Joakim Elfving yes

@oksanagilroy1950

4 жыл бұрын

They should be advanced martial artists or minimum experts viewers like a rogan or unnoffical judges harold letterman ,eddie bravo used to do it ufc wise ..then u got to do away with the commision committee passing a sentence down to a rule abiding fighter due to usada or these little labs that test for each state(sugar sean o'maliey got fucked along with yoel etc they are the condo boards of government legislation

Joe Rogan worked as a commentator for the UFC before the Dana, Lorenzo and Frank bought it. He is an OG

@mattshipe7330

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if anyone else was gonna say something

@gladtv7873

4 жыл бұрын

Nor Tomorrow!!! Did he really!? No way!!!! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Thanks captain obvious. He also only did a couple shows and then quit for a while until Dana and company purchased it. So whats your point? He did the backstage interviews thats it. And it was only for 3 or 4 shows

@cosmic_JAV

4 жыл бұрын

@@gladtv7873 yeah I think he only did the one show before Returning after Zuffa purchased the UFC

@chriskiefer7493

4 жыл бұрын

@@gladtv7873 I can see that your butts hurting all the way over here.

@chriskiefer7493

4 жыл бұрын

@Audio Antiquity I’d like to see you say that to his face.

Brendan Schaub actually had a good idea for once.. he said to make the judges go to the post fight press conferences after fights and answer for their decisions in front of the public eye.. It would start to make the shit judges not want to work on UFC cards just for the easy payday and front row seats when they have to answer for their lack of knowledge.

@iwannabethekid34xc

4 жыл бұрын

Mustve been Brendans first creative idea

@John15293

4 жыл бұрын

@@iwannabethekid34xc fairly sure he heard it from someone else

@lachlanbell8390

4 жыл бұрын

That's actually an amazing idea. Can't believe it came from Schaub.

@morgott13

4 жыл бұрын

as a general rule we should do the opposite of what shwab says

@acolyte5236

4 жыл бұрын

and they would come out and make bullshit statements for the decision. and guess what? the decision still stands.. make the fight a no contest, take away licences from judges and bann them for life. i doubt that will happen. check who bet and who organized the huston event? who runs the commission? we need the commission to not be corrupt or as less corrupt as possible. drain the swamp. transparency in judging is key to long term success of the ufc. chael there you have the solution.

What I've noticed is, the bigger the sport gets, the more corrupt the judging becomes. Cash rules everything around me cream get the money

@Linuuux

4 жыл бұрын

Dollar dollar bill y’all

@nickhousman6222

4 жыл бұрын

Teddy David dollar dollar bill you’ll

@teamgitusome

4 жыл бұрын

money, the most useless of all evils.

@teddydavid2816

4 жыл бұрын

@@teamgitusome Money isn't evil in and of itself. It's what someone does to get money or with money that could be evil..

@tacotacotington3638

4 жыл бұрын

Venom The Maine-iac Brockly Wesker Jon is not a cash cow for the UFC. He and DJ were some of the lower PPV selling champions regardless their win streaks. Jons best PPVs were with Gus and DC. The opponents sold the fight just as much as he did which made them decent. But Jon cant sell over 500k PPV by himself. The UFC would most likely profit more from Jon being beaten and then having a rematch.

Congrats to Uncle Chael for reaching the magical 500k subs. That's like 10000 times more submissions than any active fighter has on their record.

@Anthony113010

4 жыл бұрын

Well played! That is a good one Maaz

A judge not watching a fight is like a fighter leaving the cage.

@ProtectoroftheRealm

4 жыл бұрын

Nigel Liotta narrative done on purpose to rig matches

@zachary6848

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a shame people don’t know that Texas has TVs underneath the stage to help judges look at the fight better.

Incompetent judges should have to step in the cage for a round with the Bad Guy. Problem solved.

@LJAndrews1986

4 жыл бұрын

Problem is with that everyone would be too scared to be a judge in case they got it wrong by mistake rofl

@ProtectoroftheRealm

4 жыл бұрын

Here comes the incompetent judging narrative by all the ufc shills claiming their dumb and not crooked. Judging overhaul means even more crooked ufc owned judges. Anything close will go to the bigger draw or to take away a fighters negotiating power. Chael playing damage control and his sheep love it.

@MARBLEFLOWZ

4 жыл бұрын

@@ProtectoroftheRealm Sounds like you need a round or two with the American gangster yourself there cheif. 🤣

@gladtv7873

4 жыл бұрын

- DJRCJ Adelaide Byrd would fuck Chael up

Fighers put their lives at risk to have these disrespectful judges take everything they've worked for (nate Diaz)

@staylit7869

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah connor didnt win that 2nd fight

@gurubajwa9204

4 жыл бұрын

Nun but 50's & 100's haha how did Nate win?

@staylit7869

4 жыл бұрын

@@gurubajwa9204 I just thought Nate really won but they had to give it to Connor because he is their Golden Boy. Maybe im just biased because I like Nate more than Connor I dk

@leightontheegg3492

4 жыл бұрын

Nun but 50's & 100's Guys Conor clearly won 3 rounds to 2 but it was close though. I think a more accurate example with be something like Jones and Reyes.

@LegendaryBilly

4 жыл бұрын

LeightonTheEgg Thiago Santos fought better and offered more risk to J J throughout the fight than Reyes. Saying Reyes won but not Santos makes no sense. If anything, we should be talking about Santos J J. Another thing, find a fighter with more controversial decision wins than J J.

solution: Chael act as ultimate judge Roman emperor style to decide whether a fighter wins or dies

@deavenhayes8187

4 жыл бұрын

Seconded

@chriskiefer7493

4 жыл бұрын

How many people do you kick into the pit of death daily?

Chael: Swimming and Track n Field, not really sports to me. Also Chael: Gymnastics....Rodeo...

@iwannabethekid34xc

4 жыл бұрын

lol what the fuck

@morgott13

4 жыл бұрын

yeah rodeo is not a sport, its in the same class as nascar. an event or competition but not a sport

@cosmic_JAV

4 жыл бұрын

@@morgott13 I would say rodeo is more sport than Nascar, I mean rodeo takes physical skills and all that. Now Nascar I agree, I hate when they call themselves athletes, I mean hell if there athletes then I'm a fucking Olympic level athlete, I drive a car sometimes kinda fast but I also drive in the dark, when it rains snows, and I also make right hand turns.

as usual Chael gets about 75% of the facts correct, but 100% of it entertaining!

@MuchFruit

4 жыл бұрын

Here's what really happened. Joe Rogan pointed the judges out all thru the night on PPV to the audience. UFC used (predictive programming) to condition the fans by acting like the judges were incompetent all night to blame only the judges and not the UFC for fixing the main event if it went to decision. That explains why Dana blew it off at the presser by saying "we ain't judges" next question .Very strange coming from him over a main event with this magnitude. He usually has a cow when the judges fuck up a prelim fight let alone this one. Hmm and what happened because of it? It turned Reyes into a fan favorite instantly, a draw. No more "Mr Athlete" remember? The day before the fight he was just a meme joke. Now it's Reyes 123 with a shitload of fans all because he got robbed..Smart move if you ask me. They weren't going to let that title change hands over a decision. Not their Jonny Bones Jones Goat.No way. You kidding me? So now there's 2 draws instead of 1 and Jones vs Reyes 2 is born which will probably break PPV records easily considering everyone I witnessed that's still arguing about the decision. Now everybody wants to see the rematch. They got the fans arguing like crazy in the comment sections everywhere at.each others throats Rogan's in on it but I don't think Dom Cruz is because he's a fighter. He mentioned the judges but he always talks shit on them This is why Rogan was saying stuff about the judges all throughout the night to make sure you knew the judges were incompetent..Live on PPV for everyone to see. Who's everyone mad at? Joe Solis Not Dana not UFC not Rogan. There in the clear .I suggest you go back and watch him say it. Rogan even backpedaled his view of the fight on his podcast Which is very strange if you watch it..So go back and watch it all even the podcast and you'll see. They played everyone. Believe it or not it's the truth.

@Naj2jacked

4 жыл бұрын

Spartan Born nobody reading that shit

I love a lot of moving parts! And when you offer me something as well, I'm all in!

@Maazitung

4 жыл бұрын

I know my birthday is almost a month away but man am I grateful that Uncle Chael offered ME the state of New York!

@LJAndrews1986

4 жыл бұрын

OK GREAT!

@Maazitung

4 жыл бұрын

@I offer u this legit lold at your screenname.

@mannyTheGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the broad strokes

@evin98

4 жыл бұрын

Only if it’s for a meaningful period of time.

Another idea is a judge-cam. So we can see them and make sure they are watching the same fight.

I believe they should display the judges scores for each round on the monitors for all to see, along with which judge scored what.

@jhonfamo8412

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it should be displayed but officially logged

@oksanagilroy1950

4 жыл бұрын

Ots already logged each judge scores the round and a supervising commissioner collect than tallies all 3 score card every round and later entire fights are added then announced. ..open scoring is not unheard of glory kickboxin europeans open scores are shown and tealevised by 5 judges not 3 lime usa does..american boxing used to have open scoring all the way till the early 90s ..they did away becuz it showa how bad a judge they are truly no hiding and lying about fictiknal tvs on floor to see replay ..replay can be used but by refs and if used fight is over

@travishd1986

4 жыл бұрын

It cant be displayed because if one guy is up two rounds going into the third that guy won't fight in the third

Wow!!! This was INFORMATIVE and on Point Like an Arrow, thanks Champ, 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸

CHAEL THIS IS WHAT WE DO We need a 3d retna that scans the fight from the top and counts strikes then, we back that against the judging that way we keep the human understanding with computer level tracking and data

The king is back

@ChaelSonnen I think at the end of each round the judges should hold up a card to give to an assistant with the critiera and scoring for each round so a fighter along with fans would know where we stood during the fight. It would also stop any mistakes of a fighter thinking it was a 3-1 situation in the last so just avoids damage coasting to a decision they are not going to get. I think it could make for more exiting fights if a guy thinks he lost the first 2-3 so goes for the finish. Just a thought

Chael my answer to your question. In Australian boxing, to be a judge you need to be a licensed coach with experience and preferably an ex-fighter. The system is that firstly you judge amateur fights with the actual judges, your score doesn't count but at the end of the fight or the night you compare your score with the official judges and your mentor judge and have a discussion about any differences (at this stage there will be significant differences which is why your score does not count.), then a few fights down the track when you have shown consistent judgement you are on probation where you are one of the three official ringside judges, your score counts but you have an experienced judge mentor judging with you (who is not part of the three). That way if you stuff up due to inexperience the fighters won't be effected. After that you are a ringside judge on your own; you make your way through the amateur circuits then when you are good enough and consistent enough you move on to the professional circuit, world titles, Olympics - the big time. There is no one day curriculum and you get to judge the pro fights, that system is complete bullshit. Further we don't go out to the local IBJJF competition get three of their judges to judge a pro boxing bout, unlike the UFC where pure boxing judges are judging a UFC bout. The problem is that UFC really needs it own set of travelling judges, schooled and experienced in UFC, it also needs its own scoring system not the MUST system which is a boxing scoring system and not suited to a fighting style that largely incorporates wresting, BJJ and Judo based arts. I understand the State Combat Sports (boxing) Commission must legally supply the judges, perhaps the UFC could have an independent panel of ringside judges, using a scoring system that is a synthesis of Boxing/Muay-Thai, wresting, BJJ and Judo, to judge this unique sport we enjoy. If the UFC can demonstrate the insufficient nature of the current system it might be able to eventually control the quality and consistency of UFC judges.

Great video

Love the content Uncle C

My man! Good stuff!

Thank you Mr. Sonnen, love the historical facts when you do your thing. And Dana White is a genius.

This will never be fully eliminated. Chael's dad's comment seems to sum it up best. I've been an ardent boxing fan for 50 yrs. and UFC since day one. When people are judging people it's going to be a, what you like to look at type of thing.

Start a scoring system for how well judges score fights and rank them. Score them on activity, scoring accuracy, level of fights worked.

Possibly a suggestion, not sure it would work that well. But if there were six referees who were paired up randomly (so 3 groups of 2) and they conferred with each other between rounds and at the end of the fight they could come to a better decisions. But it would still be a set of three scores.

OK I LOVE YOUR SHOW, BUUUTT FEAR FACTOR STARTED IN 2001. HE WASNT EVEN ON THE MAN SHOW BUT FOR A SEASON OR 2 WHICH AIRED IN 2003-2004 BEFORE IT DIED. UFC 12 JOES FIRST UFC FIGHT WAS IN 1997. JOE HAD ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THE UFC FOR 5 YEARS. SO NO JOE DIDNT HAVE THE AMOUNT OF GIGS LINED UP AS YOU SUGGEST AND ALREADY IN PLACE. HE HAD RADIO TV (1995) AND WHO REALLY WATCHED THAT? SO NO JOE DIDNT QUITE HAVE HIS PLATE AS FULL AS YOU SUGGESTED. JOE WAS LITERALLY WAS LOST TRYING TO FIND HIMSELF AND UFC IM PRETTY SURE CAME TO HIM. YOU MIGHT BE CORRECT ON THE PAY THING. NOT SURE. NEVER HEARD THAT STORY FROM JOE. YEAH HE WENT ON THE MAN SHOW WITH UFC ON HIS CHEST. YEAH HE WENT ON ESPN AND ARGUED WITH BOXING “EXPERTS” AND TOLD THEM THEIR SPORT IS DIEING. BUT NO JOE WASNT A WELL KNOW GUY BEFORE UFC. JOE WAS THE UFC GUY ON FEAR FACTOR. PEOPLE STARTED TO KNOW WHO JOE WAS FROM THAT. THERE WAS A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNEW WHO JOE WAS. THIS SUCKS CHAEL. DID YOU NOT DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS?? IS THIS HOW ALL YOUR STORIES ARE? ARE ALL OF THEM SEMI-ACCURATE, BUT TWEAKED TO TELL A BETTER STORY? WHEN YOU DO THIS YOU LOSE WHATEVER TRUTH IS IN YOUR STORY /STORIES. AT LEAST GOOGLE THE DATES AND LOOK AT JOES TIMELINE WHEN TELLING THESE STORIES. SUGGEST YOU TALK TO JOE FIRST. FIX THAT RELATIONSHIP IF ITS BEEN BROKEN. DO BETTER CHAEL. I STILL LIKE THE CHANNEL. JUST BUMS ME OUT.

@addisonsomppi4315

4 жыл бұрын

Gassy Jalapeño yeah he needs to at least put some efforts into his timeline of events before going into joes history. These things anybody can look up.

@neilolshey8189

4 жыл бұрын

Chael turns on the camera and starts talking. Sometimes this happens. If he sees it I’m sure he’ll correct himself. Still live the show.

@brandonsomppi3725

4 жыл бұрын

Fix your relationship with joe. Miss having you on his show.

@GassyJalapeno

4 жыл бұрын

Bash in Trumps Skull 🔥🤓 2020

@chaeroskam1

4 жыл бұрын

Gassy Jalapeño cause violence is the answer to this countries political problems. I feel like the left talks more about killing and violence than the right anymore.

My mind is messed up, because it remembers it differently than Uncle Chael. Joe Rogan started commentating at UFC 3 while he was still on the sitcom - "News Radio". Great show BTW. This was way before Dana White came into the picture. Joe didn't do the Man Show until Kimmel and Corrola left. The Texas Athletic commission states the one judge was looking down because he was watching the fight on the monitor. This was something new and the monitors were installed at the behest of the UFC. Thank you for fixing my thinking Uncle Chael.

ridiculous acts from the commission and the judges, you're absolutely right uncle Chael

Your opinion matters. You're one of the best. Most qualified individual to do this. RESPECT ☯️☯️. WISH YOU THE BEST. ALWAYS

So cool to hear about joe starting to call fights and stuff

The scoring should be shown live. most sports you are able to see whos ahaead and what they need to do to come back and win. Or at least in main event fights show the results after 3 rounds and then again obviously at the end.

hey Chael look into the world surf league (WSL) and the way they judge, they have 5 judges and they throw away the highest score and the lowest score and keep the middle three as the result, keeping judges on the straight and narrow because if the are constantly on the high or low end they can just be faded out, do you think something like this could work in mma?

They need a feedback loop, so that things get corrected. Right now it's just, this is what we did, deal with it, bye. It's complicated though because you can't really go back changing fights all the time or it would set a precedent for chaos in terms of fighters contesting losses. Best thing I can think of is the athletic commissions need an oversight committee formed by former coaches or fighters in the industry.

Mr. Chael, I might make a video fan question regarding this topic. I'm currently formulating my stance but I do know one thing and that is MMA must separate itself from the boxing world once and for all in it's scoring. It is not the same sport nor do we as fans want to see it become the mockery of a sport that boxing has become w/ it's shady reputation. Whenever there is a lot of money regarding something you are sure to find corruption. The best way is to ensure there is The least amount of corruption in judging a fight between two people is to have transparency in it's scoring. I think it's possible we would have better fights if the fighters knew the scoring after each round. I also think it is a worthy idea to consider a type of commission or board over the creation of judging rules That would consist of former fighters, media personnel as well as coaches and other people in the know in the sport. Hack if the NCAA can have a college football playoff committee why can't we have our own committee that can assemble annually to modify rules if need be and to vote on changes to the sport? It would appear to me that the multitude of ideas would best be served in a place and time or people can vote on the best ideas and we can still modify a sport that is so young in it's infancy.

@MuchFruit

4 жыл бұрын

Here's what really happened. Joe Rogan pointed the judges out all thru the night on PPV to the audience. UFC used (predictive programming) to condition the fans by acting like the judges were incompetent all night to blame only the judges and not the UFC for fixing the main event if it went to decision. That explains why Dana blew it off at the presser by saying "we ain't judges" next question .Very strange coming from him over a main event with this magnitude. He usually has a cow when the judges fuck up a prelim fight let alone this one. Hmm and what happened because of it? It turned Reyes into a fan favorite instantly, a draw. No more "Mr Athlete" remember? The day before the fight he was just a meme joke. Now it's Reyes 123 with a shitload of fans all because he got robbed..Smart move if you ask me. They weren't going to let that title change hands over a decision. Not their Jonny Bones Jones Goat.No way. You kidding me? So now there's 2 draws instead of 1 and Jones vs Reyes 2 is born which will probably break PPV records easily considering everyone I witnessed that's still arguing about the decision. Now everybody wants to see the rematch. They got the fans arguing like crazy in the comment sections everywhere at.each others throats Rogan's in on it but I don't think Dom Cruz is because he's a fighter. He mentioned the judges but he always talks shit on them This is why Rogan was saying stuff about the judges all throughout the night to make sure you knew the judges were incompetent..Live on PPV for everyone to see. Who's everyone mad at? Joe Solis Not Dana not UFC not Rogan. There in the clear .I suggest you go back and watch him say it. Rogan even backpedaled his view of the fight on his podcast Which is very strange if you watch it..So go back and watch it all even the podcast and you'll see. They played everyone. Believe it or not it's the truth.

question I still don't understand. when they show judges score cards. why are rounds 1 and 2 already filled out digitally... rounds 3,4 and 5 hand written???

Either there have to be better judging or some kind of sudden death rule. I just don't know what sudden death they can have, in Karate tournaments I believe if Im not mistaken they break bricks if there is no clear winner. Eddie Bravo's grappling contests EDI also has a sudden death.

its simple. have two panels of judges, live and virtual, have a second panel of licensed judges watching the replay of the fight from every angle, a small delay would allow them time to better analyze. compare the two sets of results.

That's the problem right there. There needs to be just 1 commission so everyone is trained the exact same. Veteran fighters would be a good idea also and not just 3 judges but a group of them, 7-10. Also points need to be shown after each round.

There should be a hundred judges, online, as well as a public poll, and judges should have to sit in front of a committee and explain their reasons for bad calls

I was apart of the old guard. The one that came before You. A one dimensional fighter.

I've always felt there should be a presser after the events for judges and refs to take questions from mma media on their decisions. I reckon there'd be far fewer Cecil Peoples happening if they had to explain themselves afterwards.

They should make the scores public as each round concludes. Like a scoreboard as a first step. Easy quick step

Uncle chael I think I have an idea, or the beginnings of one anyway! So there seems to be something to people rewatching fights with the sound turned way down or off so no outside influence from the commentators team and they can really focus in on the action of the fight, and they seem to have a completely different perspective from their original take on the outcome. Now, obviously fights need to be judged in real time and we can’t duplicate the ability to rewatch it. But maybe there is something we can take away from the ability to isolate the judges from outside influence even if they’re not listening the the commentators themselves I couldn’t only imagine being in the arena alone with thousands of screaming fans that’s a lot of sensory input all around you coming in that I mean come on, how can anybody ignore all of it with out any of it distracting you?!? Anyways I’m just a fan I’m not sure what exactly they have the judges doing other than just watching the fights as it stands right now but maybe something as simple as wearing some noise canceling headphones, help keep them locked in. Ufc was experimenting with those 360 degrees cameras at a certain point right? Idk what ever happened with those ? I’m sure they must have monitors in front of them as well but even sitting right up against the cage ins ire the refs get in their ways sometimes as well, but who says they need to be right there to judge the fight with the 360 cameras isolate them completely in their own room with all the resources they could need to do as good a job as possible??

Kansas athletic commission is starting to allow live scoring. Whether the ufc uses live judging or not is a different story

The State Athletic Commissions are Depts. of the Government. Accountability & a proper understanding of their jobs should not be expected.

@oksanagilroy1950

4 жыл бұрын

Un-elected gov.officals

Open scoring. There’s positives and negatives with it but it’s worth a try

Need a better scoring system and open score cards. Fighters should know what the score is during a fight.

What about having a system in place which gives points for strikes, pressure, wrestling etc, based on a open scorecard system. In the UFC game, how is the judging being decided there? Something similar could be a simple answer.

Thinking maybe there should be 5 judges. All judges should have to go through some kinda school on judging. Next I think you should encourage and allow former fighters to be judges. Next I think you should consider live scoring. Next I think after each fight night comes to a close judges should have to answer questions on how they saw and scored the fight. Next do away with the current scoring system and create an mma scoring system that scores each specific criteria a certain way. Next have a system if judges are scoring like shit and not watching the fight they get written up and once u get more than 2 your out. Judges should be open to investigation just as fighters are. Especially if there not even watching the fight, or scoring is all over the place. While they are investigated they should not be allowed to judge and there pay for the event should be held. Make it where the judges have to sign a contract stating they took these classes and they will uphold and abide by the scoring and systems put into place. If not they are subject to being investigated, suspended, license revoked, and there not paid.

the UFC should do more than just show the judges names, but fully showcase their profiles so there is something at stake for them. They wouldn't be able to hide behind commissions, but would be public figures and have to answer to fans directly.

we need a fighters union to represent and fight for fighter rights, including judging criteria by the fighters, for the fighters. Fighters are best at one thing, fighting. Thats why they need to be represented properly, a republic.

I think it should be like a jury and make them take an hour to re watch it get all the data and and make sure the Judges have a back ground in the sport a ex fighter or a ex coach or something maybe get 5 judges and maybe get a Online voting thing just to see what the public think it would probably be biased tho but just to see

I heard that the judges have a monitor to watch so they can have a better view. I am not 100 % sure it's true or proven that the judge wasn't watching. That being said, there are SERIOUS issues with subjective rule set and changes need to be made. Jim Jitsu tournaments have specific points dmfor different positions that are more objective. I don't tnn it's as complicated as we make it. No judge can do a great job with a shitty rule set. Love all you do Chael!! Huge fan!

Judges should do the post fight press conference.

Uncle Chael…..as two lifetime Wrestlers...I think we can both agree that Wrestling scoring and refereeing is as close to fair as can be compared. The athlete MUST obtain a dominant position to score points. A takedown HAS requirements before it's a take dawn. You physically have to change from bottom position to Top position and achieve the dominant position before it will be acknowledged as a reversal. It's not subjective on how great you think the takedown looked or if you were impressed by it....if they achieved the position...its scored appropriately. Strikes thrown vs Landed, takedowns achieved/ ride time/ reversals, and EVERY ROUND IS VALUED EQUALLY. A takedown regardless of round is worth 2pts. Not 2pts now and 5pts later on in Overtime. A takedown in the first 30seconds of the fight is the same value as one scored in the last 30sec. Why isn't there a judge who is a former/accomplished Striker/Boxer, a judge that is a grappling authority, etc. Specialized opinions that, as Schaub would say..."Stay in their own lane". At least have a displayed competence of what is it they are judging and not just the same nepotism and disregard that you see in incestuous unionized commissions.

Leave judging up to the audience Lol. Have people vote between rounds. It doesn't have to be official but I think it would really help the sport by getting the audience involved and then you can have a true "peoples champ". Like I said, not official but it would be fun to be able to get involved more.

It seems to me. it would be well to create an MMA association with trainers, judges, promoters and even a few people from governmt and start improve sport

One more thing,the explanation for the judge not watching the fight was because he was looking at the monitor because of the angle.They do have monitors under the table the commission said.

No timer, no rounds. Solved.

@Montoya1991

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but it will no longer be a sanctioned sport.

@Teamcurtisbjj

4 жыл бұрын

Cheek Busting 101 is that right? Makes sense. I’d rather watch old school UFC if it was an option.

Chael's knowledge on MMA is priceless.

@jhonfamo8412

4 жыл бұрын

He just states the obvious..to bad he has to explain it..but thank u c

@oksanagilroy1950

4 жыл бұрын

Expect this occasion of rogan and dom cruz calling bullshit when judges were b.s. they are 100% right chael is playing politics lying to u that he disagrees the judges were good

@smacneal91

4 жыл бұрын

Except the fact that Joe Rogan has been apart of the UFC longer then Dana White. He did start working for free though.

In regards to the judge looking down...are there monitors with the fight being showed in front of them? Just a thought...however they messed up a few fights no argument about it. I guess it’s just more of a general question do the judges watch a monitor or are they watching the actual fight inside the cage

Please interview the judges or someone from the Texas athletic commission.

@MuchFruit

4 жыл бұрын

Here's what really happened. Joe Rogan pointed the judges out all thru the night on PPV to the audience. UFC used (predictive programming) to condition the fans by acting like the judges were incompetent all night to blame only the judges and not the UFC for fixing the main event if it went to decision. That explains why Dana blew it off at the presser by saying "we ain't judges" next question .Very strange coming from him over a main event with this magnitude. He usually has a cow when the judges fuck up a prelim fight let alone this one. Hmm and what happened because of it? It turned Reyes into a fan favorite instantly, a draw. No more "Mr Athlete" remember? The day before the fight he was just a meme joke. Now it's Reyes 123 with a shitload of fans all because he got robbed..Smart move if you ask me. They weren't going to let that title change hands over a decision. Not their Jonny Bones Jones Goat.No way. You kidding me? So now there's 2 draws instead of 1 and Jones vs Reyes 2 is born which will probably break PPV records easily considering everyone I witnessed that's still arguing about the decision. Now everybody wants to see the rematch. They got the fans arguing like crazy in the comment sections everywhere at.each others throats Rogan's in on it but I don't think Dom Cruz is because he's a fighter. He mentioned the judges but he always talks shit on them This is why Rogan was saying stuff about the judges all throughout the night to make sure you knew the judges were incompetent..Live on PPV for everyone to see. Who's everyone mad at? Joe Solis Not Dana not UFC not Rogan. There in the clear .I suggest you go back and watch him say it. Rogan even backpedaled his view of the fight on his podcast Which is very strange if you watch it..So go back and watch it all even the podcast and you'll see. They played everyone. Believe it or not it's the truth.

there are bad officials in all sports...some of the officials in the NHL are atrocious and are costing teams wins...I am sure it is the same in all sports...but the officials seem to be protected from being accountable

2 planes 3 buildings do the math

@XxkillerxX10

4 жыл бұрын

= inside job.

@baronvonhoughton

4 жыл бұрын

= Building 7

@joebidenisapedophile

4 жыл бұрын

= the Moon

@natel9019

4 жыл бұрын

Powderized 3 buildings.

@natel9019

4 жыл бұрын

@Joe ShMoe He us implying that it was an inside job.

Are you aware that the Texas commission has stated that the arena was equipped with monitors for the judges located in the floor?

Ref for ground game , one for stand up , etc points put together ?🤔

Chael, please go on JRE again. Thanks. BGI is a great channel!!

Its kinda funny I had a thing against Joe Rogan. Just didnt like him yet I didnt really know anything about him. Just one of those things. But anyway, I found in time I really enjoyed his commentary during the fights. He was dead on and really knew so more more about what was going on than I did. Then I found his podcast. Thats when everything really changed. He's into just about everything I'm into and he's looking for all the same answers I want to know. Yet he's taking the time to get some of the answers I would never be able to get. He's personality is fucking very cool to. Im really happy that I took the time to get to know Joe Rogan. Not personally but through his work. Big fan now....

I do have a question though. Is Bellator dealing with the same bad judging problems as the UFC? Can anyone tell me the last time you have watch a fighter from Bellator clearly won 3 rounds and still lost the fight? Please reply, I don't watch too much Bellator an I'm extremely curious to know. I did watch the Warren/Galvao fight but that was forever ago.

After the fight is done there is footage based on fact and will have full evidence of each round. Should there be an option to dispute a decision? Hey I think I won that fight, I am going to appeal the decision. Appealed decision then takes the fight footage and a gives it to a special group of 5 to 10 judges, maybe made up of fighters, and they re-score the fight. New judgement is based on exact numbers, strikes, sig. strikes, take downs etc. New judgement to keep decision or over turn decision. Maybe an appeal limit of 1 week or a month to ask for appeal or it lives in stone forever?

If there WERE Penalties, it would be more difficult to Bribe them. 🙉

No judges, no decision wins, if it goes the distance its a DRAW. This would incentivise finishes, WIN in the time allowed, by KO, TKO, or submission or its a draw.

You tell em uncle

Plus not holding one or all accountable opens the door for corruption.

Judges need consequences. I think it's gonna take a judge getting popped for cheating a sportsbook before that happens.

What about having the judges in a room with monitors and replay?I hear lots of people say I've watched it three times...well judges get one chance to see it from one angle.To be honest that's impossible.The use of replay could have major impact.So maybe you wait 5 min for the decision at least it will be an educated one with all the views available.Just my opinion.I don't like open scoring because that only exposes a problem we already know exists.And maybe increase there pay geezus judges make shit.

It's a issue that needs addressed for sure.

To me it is simple. Like they do in International Cricket and Rugby, a panel of judges who are licensed. So, the Commissions can choose their judges from this panel. Simples

Set down all three judges in what ever state a week b4 every upcoming event make them watch fights on film get there input and #’s make sure it’s coherent

As far as saying "if 1 judge..." I call bs because the comission outright lied to cover him saying there are monitors in the floor. Cmon.....

@Montoya1991

4 жыл бұрын

Even the WWE has monitors right in fron of the commentators on top of the table, who TF puts monitors on the floor?

I have this radical idea, hear me out. The UFC and Commission print out a sheet of paper the fans and fighters can read to see how fights are scored. I know this makes me sound insane but its possible that if there was a criteria for scoring a fight then....maybe fights could be scored correctly. I dont think for one second that the "judge" who scored it 49-46 for Jones was not leaving that arena with a briefcase full of cash and Dana sure was not upset with the outcome.

@SAM-ru4vx

4 жыл бұрын

The same commission that has a vendetta against nick and nate diaz.

Chael meaningful period of time Sonnen

Why not go back to the old days. But with open scoring. And a rule that says “in the event of the scores being..” we fight with no time limit for a 6th round death match to settle the shit? That would be ILL!!!! 😛

Judge in the ring should have a word in it.

I think title fights are too important to send them to a state that’s behind the times. Leave the fight nights to those states, the ppv’s should be in LA, Vegas, or NJ. Let the state prove themselves worthy to host a big event

when he was talking about how the judges are the only one the commission protects, it makes it sound like maybe the judges are just doing what the commission tells them to do.

@Jack_80

4 жыл бұрын

i've never worked for a union but from what i've heard from a former coworker that has, it sounds similar to this. he said the union reps would tell people to do a bad job and protect those people, and the few people that didn't listen to them and worked hard would get in shit over stupid little things and they wouldn't protect them.

How about say maybe 7 judges all spread around the cage. That way if 1 or 2 miss something because they were blindsided the others would see it and score it. Then at the end of each round you discard the highest and lowest scores so in theory you get a pretty good consensus of how the round actually went. I think they do something similar in some Olympic sports. That's about all I've got.

@match6800

4 жыл бұрын

Andy L how bout they all must train jiu jitsu and Muay Thai

At my local mma Bjj and judo gym, the one owner is a black belt in Bjj, judo, and multiple other disciplines. He’s won national tournaments. He’s also a lawyer and has an Elo rating that puts him at the 90th percentile of all chess players in the world. What’s my point? I’ve seen him judge mma fights. Saw him judging the night gaethje put barboza down. There are legit judges out there. They just need to be used more.

display judges score cards at the end of each round

Put go pro face cams on the judges and hold them accountable that way. If we have questionable scores, then we go back to the judges camera to make sure they weren’t distracted during the fight. #boomsolved

It should be strict criteria.. You have to have 10 judges, and all of them MUST have had personal experience in the sport. Guys like Herb Dean, those are the guys that should be judges IMO

Here’s a simple improvement; Three judges is too few. Add more judges around the octagon and maybe even a few more that see through video to get a different perspective than those at the ground level. If one judge is distracted and calls a round incorrectly, the majority will show that it was indeed a mistake. The incorrectly scored round will have a very small effect on the outcome of the fight...and everyone lives. Now all all is well in MMA-Land. You’re welcome.

Judges, umpires, referees will miss/fuck up 25% of all calls. Go to five judges and the numbers will never allow one judge to affect the outcome.

MMA judging need to be change!!! Please make it happen. If NY now legal for MMA.. judging also can be change for fair games

Judges can use a Overhaul update upgrade new rules ...

Surely UFC started in Denver Colorado ? Rogan came in at UFC 23

Open Scoring. Post the Judges' names and scores after every round live to the crowd, corners and fighters. Instant fix. We'd probably be amazed at how "competent" they become in record time.