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@morrigankasa570

Жыл бұрын

In the second or maybe fourth or fifth book? There were a few chapters where Harry was at the Weasley's House Molly did produce a Sauce from her Wand and that there were Magical Cookbooks in her Kitchen so the Gamps Law thing doesn't make sense.

@Brightstarvids

Жыл бұрын

Second and how does magic come to people? How was magic born. Weren’t the *very first* muggle born?

@Brightstarvids

Жыл бұрын

Can u do life of lucious mayfoy?

@medievalpeanut4269

Жыл бұрын

For Lupin - maybe that was by choice. Hiring a malnourished werewolf vs a fully healthy one. Maybe it’s thought that because he looks weaker he is less a threat or if he were too successful he engages in villiany. When Lupin got to Hogwarts he didn’t need to look malnourished because he was working for Dumbledore who knew what he was and wasn’t afraid. On the money part - I would argue the goblins enchant the money or mark it with magic and if that were multiplied the copies would lack that magic mark.

@ladenalaine6611

Жыл бұрын

Tom Riddle's wizard family was also poor.

But if there were spells that could repair glasses for instance why would there not be spells that could repair clothing so that it didn’t look shabby. Also if you can change a rat into a teacup why couldn’t you change a torn robes into new shiny robes? To me these are still a huge plot holes and make no sense.

@brokoryfoods

Жыл бұрын

In the newest Fantastic beasts movie there was a scene where a witch transmuted the baker guy clothes into new ones.i thought there was no excuse for a wizard to use old clothes.

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

@@brokoryfoods Makes me wonder why families even bother buying the kids new robes every year if they couldn't simply just cast a spell to conjure them new clothes.

@maironetelehtaneloimori7239

Жыл бұрын

Because you cannot transfigure everything into anything. There are laws and limitations as to what you can change. For example: It is true that one can multiply already available food, but if one has read more carefully, one would know that using spells like gemino to multiply food, makes the copies of the food lose their nutritional value and therefore be useful only as filler. Meaning if you ate only replicated food, eventually you would be malnourished. That is the explanation. Now can, if you want, you can not read this part. But I'm about to go off on a little tangent. So this is one of the issues, that always bothers me when I decide to indulge in some fantasy. That issue is the way that people seem to treat things they cannot explain, simply because they fall under the fantasy genre. What I mean is exactly this: "Ow, there are spells that can replicate stuff. And the characters don't have enough of everything. Then that must mean WAR. Plot holes, plot holes, nothing makes sense, AHHHHHHH." *then they throw their hands in the air and say to themselves this is just badly made, having read nearly nothing, or atleast not in enough detail *. Same thing happens across some other fandoms and honestly it's fucking annoying. Fantasy has laws and if you read carefully and even if you've had to make up some stuff to explain certain things, it's still a logical explanation. The reason this is even a problem, is because a lot of fantasy stories, like HP have a lot of potential. And they're often just dismised, because ... "hey, it's just fantasy, nothing makes sense.

@pjschmid2251

Жыл бұрын

@@maironetelehtaneloimori7239 but my post had nothing to do with food it had to do with spells to repair items or transfiguration spells that change one item into another. That has nothing to do with replication of food so your explanation doesn’t answer any of the questions posed in my post.

@taelune

Жыл бұрын

@@pjschmid2251 It probably follows the same or similar laws and becomes more brittle over time. (Or with each repair, etc) Like, you can't make anything out of nothing, there must be a resource utilized. At least that's the conclusion I've come to. I think Hermonie states something similar in Deathly Hollows.

I think Lupin was just truly depressed. So he didn't have the energy needed or the desire to take care of himself. Maybe he rebuffed any of Dumbledore's earlier attempts to help him, since he was so emotionally ravaged by all the death around him, and the changes his body underwent every month. Only when Dumbledore played the Harry needs you card, was he willing to step back into Hogwarts and receive help.

@edopronk1303

Жыл бұрын

I like this one.

@shawnedwards5369

Жыл бұрын

This! Ask anyone with chronic depression about how difficult it can sometimes be to feed and care for themselves.

@Dadofer1970

Жыл бұрын

True, but we also don't really know if Lupin's apparent improvement was due to better eating. It could simply be that the train ride was very shortly after the full moon, and he was exhausted and malnourished from the ordeal.

@bakachan3601

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnedwards5369 True. And it also shows that lupin wasn't very good at potions because Snape had to make his anti werewolf potion for him.

@Noah-gg7wp

Жыл бұрын

It’s also hinted that one of umbridge’s laws made it impossible for him to find a job

When you mentioned that hungry wizards shouldn't be starving if they can multiply food, it made me remember in the Deathly Hallows that Hermione was multiplying fish and bread when they couldn't forage any other food while in their quest for the Horcruxes. The problem that was raised with that is whenever she cast Gemino to copy the food, it only produced a lesser copy with little to no nutritional value, so although they had full bellies, they were still very much starving which severely hindered Ron's recovery and lead to them all being irritable, pale and malnutritioned on top of the corruption of the Horcruxes. I do not believe it is a plot hole that Lupin would be as hungry as he was even if he was using Gemino to multiply his meals with that in mind.

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

Yep and I assume that most of what little income he earned went towards buying wolfbane potions, so it's likely he didn't have much left over to purchase groceries. And I imagine most places like bars or restaurants would be less inclined to let a werewolf eat in their establishments. Thus limiting his options.

@denny-michael

Жыл бұрын

Multiplying Fish and bread like the feeding of the 5,000. Pretty interesting on JK

@Defiedvibes1

Жыл бұрын

I'd still kina say there's a plot hole bc can u not just transfigure plants into whatever u wanna eat and even if u use the argument they change back to plants I mean hey its edible nutritious o ly problem ofc wud be eating leaves sux lol but I mean u transfigure it into idk a whole mf roast lol

@diversityproductionz

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking to mention the lesser value food copies as well

@tonygrinney7115

Жыл бұрын

It also explains Ron's persistant eating at Hogwart's which always irritated Hermione. Hermione:"Do you ever stop eating?" Ron: "I'm hungry" The Weasley's have food so they probably multiply it to make it go round everyone. The food at Hogwart's wasn't multiplied it was prepared in the Hogwart's kitchen by the Elves. It was transported from the Hogwart's kitchen.Gamp's Law that you cannot create something from nothing. Suggests that by dulpicating food you still have the same calories and nuitrition but spread over a larger amount of food. So Ron is hungry at home and takes maximum opportunity to eat while he is at Hogwarts. Hermione from middle class Muggle family doesn't have the issue of food as she is well fed at home and also like most teenage girls is very weight-conscious so only eats the minimum of what she needs to maintain her health. So when she sees Ron's incessant eating she is appalled! Gamp's Law also expalins about Horcrux's. You can divide your spirit but each part will take a part of the complete whole. Voldemort's plan to divide his spirit 7 ways in an attempt to become invincible actually weakened Voldemort significantly, also the fact that one of the Horcrux's was accidentally in Harry. As much as it tormented Harry it alo gave him an insight into Voldemort's mind.

Honestly, I wonder if the Weasleys weren't just really bad at money management. Instead of putting some aside, they spent all 700 galleons from the lottery on one single trip. And, in first year for Ron, they bought Percy both an owl and there brand new pairs of school robes as a reward for being made prefect. If they'd just gifted him the owl, they would have enough money to buy Ron a brand new wand. So, were they actually poor, or just really REALLY bad at money management and budgeting? 😕

@kas1680

Жыл бұрын

If all they could afford was either one school robe or one wand, there is no management that unfucks this situation

@katholmes7112

Жыл бұрын

My point is, they bought Percy three new sets of robes on top of an owl. The owl is the reason Ron gained Scabbers. But, if they'd just given Percy the owl, Ron wouldn't have needed Charlie's old wand. Having a wand not meant for him is one reason why Ron was really bad at magic in the beginning.

@Synthesid

Жыл бұрын

@@kas1680 How... How did you miss the 700 galleons part, exactly?

@kas1680

Жыл бұрын

@@Synthesid the dude that made the original comment referred to Ron's first year and the lottery happened in year 3, but maybe I'm just confused

@katholmes7112

Жыл бұрын

@kas I talked about the 700 galleon trip first, then the first year shopping. The Weasleys just were bad with money.

I think that Lupin being hungry is a misdirect. We learn later that he had been a werewolf the night before he went on the train and Harry doesn't know that when he thinks about how it looks like he's starved. Maybe being a werewolf and not feeding even creates a deeper more ravaging hunger, that remains even when you turn back to a human. As for the state of his clothes, I think that's in part due to his isolation. No need to look good if you live all alone. Don't get me wrong, he was probably pretty poor by wizarding standards, but poverty was not his main problem.

@kellharris2491

Жыл бұрын

Very true. His shifting probable takes a lot out of him. I always thought his health issues because of that. And when you are depressed you tend not to take care of your apperence.

@swimmingmide

Жыл бұрын

I think that turning into a werewolf is a huge caloric drain on his body, while not having steady work due to his condition is a drain on his finances, and the stress of worrying about turning into a werewolf is a drain on his mental health. Turning into a werewolf also wrecks his cloths on a monthly basis. Bored werewolf Lupin can't get out and do werewolf stuff so he turns his attention on the objects in the room he is trapped in. He shreds the couch, rips up the robes, and chews up shoes like a dog would. Why buy nice things when Ahole werewolf you is going to destory them if you don't let him do murder once a month.

@dodesskiy1

Жыл бұрын

@@kellharris2491 Think Incredible Hulk, looks good, but the jeans and the shirt are in ruins after LOL. Plus you turn green from depression too LOL. I had to, sorry. Trying to make something out of a make believe alternate laws of physics is funny to try. She wants Ron hungry in book 7, so all you know from 6 other books is overwritten LOL. But I got into it myself so I'm as bad as the rest here.

If Molly had Etsy, the Weasleys would be the richest family in the story

@c4ctusc4ctusc4ctus

Жыл бұрын

or a depop account 😂

@craftyhobbit7623

Жыл бұрын

Etsy didn't exist when the books were set, and access to the internet wasn't a common thing outside of government and research institutions. The World Wide Web was only talked about as a thing when I was in my third year at secondary school and that was in '94, and most people didn't have it.

@oksuree

Жыл бұрын

Who's Molly

@lauraslade5308

Жыл бұрын

@@craftyhobbit7623 so what? it was just an idea. bet you're fun at parties mate

@themixican4364

Жыл бұрын

@@oksuree mrs. Weasley

I always thought Lupin looked sickly and emaciated just because of his condition, not because he couldn't even afford food. But yes, he couldn't keep jobs too so money must have been pretty tight. To what extent it is not clear.

I always assumed that Lupin looked so shabby, tired and worn out not because he hadn't been eating, but because the transformations took so much out of him. And that Harry, not knowing that Lupin was a werewolf throughout most of the 3rd book, just assumed it was the lack of meals that made him look so worn out. I also assumed that the quality of the food lessened for every time you multiplied or enlarged it.. Like the energy/callories/nutrition it contained remained the same, it just got divided/watered down in a way every time you multiplied the food, so you'd have to eat twice as much of it, if that makes sense? I don't know why I've always assumed this, maybe I read it in a fanfic or something..

@WhiteDove-w9b

Жыл бұрын

It says in book 7 when ron, Harry and hermione were in the woods. You are exactly right. Hermione does it to fill their stomachs but its not very nutritious.

@blackeaglenrzero8607

Жыл бұрын

yeah, but wouln't that theory be contradictet by the fact, if i remeber correctly, that in the half blood prince, harry uses this spell to fill the almost empty glasses of ale that hagrid and slughorn drank up again and again, and they did get more and more drunk. so the effect may "water down" a little, but still have a major effect. like a 5% ale having only 3% etc. but that still would be a major advantage in food. like yes it could be that the original meatloaf for example has a total of 100 grams of protein, but the second one still has like 70. Still a good way of saving money if you do it all the time.

@lilo108899

Жыл бұрын

​@@blackeaglenrzero8607 That is true if you have a meatloaf but as they only had toadstool stew I don't think it`s very nutritious or tasty for that matter

@iesika7387

Жыл бұрын

Enlarging food might decrease the nutritional value / taste. But you can also just like.... transfigure a rat into a steak. It's the same base materials. Walk past a dumpster somewhere, accio yourself a bunch of rats into a box. Turn 'em into steaks. There are a ton of things that are edible but not pallatible that could probably be easily transfigured into tasty food.

@T3AR_HD

Жыл бұрын

@@iesika7387 a rat doesn't have enough fat for a human to live off of, it's a phenomenon called "fat starvation" or "protein poisoning" meanwhile a steak would have tons of fat on it. Therefore you could not transfigure rats into steak as they are made up of wildly different materials. Not all meat is the same.

I always thought wizards from Muggle families would still have so much to learn after leaving Hogwarts and integrate more into wizarding society. For example there are no classes for Culinary magic so anyone not from a wizard family who had not cooked with magic before would be at a disadvantage. I often thought of Mrs Weasley teaching Harry and Hermione in the Burrow how to cook via magic.

@BretekV

Жыл бұрын

One thing that isn't explored much is the diversity of the wizarding economy. Muggles buy cookbooks, i'm almost certain wizards can buy home making spell books.

@f-man3274

Жыл бұрын

I also thought the wizards with Muggle background could actually benefit A LOT from making easy money by using magic in real life to making easy magic money in wizard world by implementing Muggle skills that wizards obviously lack. That would make wealthier than "pure" wizards and would cause a recentiment that lead to social base of Death Eaters, and that could make the appearence of Voldemort and popularity of his ideas very logical.

@iesika7387

Жыл бұрын

@@f-man3274 Having a foot in both worlds would be a huge economic advantage. Imagine working as a muggle courier if you can discretely apparate across town or across the country. Grafitti removal service. Locksmith. House cleaning. Repairing nonmechanical stuff. Tailoring. As long as it's something the customer won't actually see you doing, you could get it done in a fraction of time and effort.

@dodesskiy1

Жыл бұрын

@@iesika7387 Thereby possibly exposing the magic world. "Nah we're better off left to ourselves." In my mind the Weasleys for example sold eggs at that village to get other types of food that wasn't in that garden maybe. But doing too much was probably illegal. My thoughts anyhow.

@Tonixxy

Жыл бұрын

​@@iesika7387imagine being a wizard eith godly powers and working as a courier....... Imperio some millionaire and make him given some lol. No one gonna know anyway

I have a theory as to why some wizards didn't took good care of themselves, Lupin might be hungry because he was sick and he simply couldn't eat. When he arrived at Hogwarts his appetize change and he wanted to eat. My guess is that living with the werewolf condition someone might feel depressed and not want to eat or to use magic to fix clothing. I experienced a really bad C PTSD the last month and I can tell you, I didn't want to eat, I was forcing myself, and I had all day nausea. I felt better 2 days ago and suddenly my appetite change like magic, I eat normally now. The psycho physical effects of a sickness are major, I don't think those are necessary plot holes if one can theorize that wizards might be suggestable to psychological issues like muggles.

@myatamara

Жыл бұрын

this is a good theory, also I hope you're okay

@theresabu3000

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I also think his appearance was due to having to endure the werewolf curse without the wolfsbane potion - he appears sick and exhausted. Maybe even the torn clothes come from that - if the curse surprises you. And at hogwarts he starts to get better - the good meals and a job that he likes and where he's respected contributes as much as the potion.

@princesscharis

Жыл бұрын

@@myatamara thank you very much, I am much better even from when I wrote this. Due to insomnia which herbs didn't fix, I had to take some light sleeping pills which lasted for 3 years. Unfortunately such pills rose my prolactin to really high levels which concerned me deeply, and I stop using them suddenly and my C PTSD got a hell of a trigger. I am just writing this for anyone who might get this information useful. :)

I have another thing that makes it weird for Lupin to be living hand to mouth. At one point in the books, it makes a statement about Hermines parents exchanging their muggle currency for wizard currency. If so, couldn't Lupin just worked a muggle job, had a schedule where he was always off those "special" days, no matter the cost. He could just exchange the currency or even better, just buy muggle food. Besides certain items, ingredients or treats, the magical and non-magical world seem to eat the same food.

@tiaragoodman2439

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking this but most wizards don't know how to function and live everyday life without magic. My guess is that it would be extremely hard for Lupin to hold down a muggle job.

@harringt100

Жыл бұрын

@@tiaragoodman2439 He wouldn't have to "live without magic." He'd just have to not use it in front of other people. It seems there are lots of jobs in which being a wizard would be a major advantage. You could be a deliveryman, for example: use aparition to get things there faster than anyone else can. I mean... _maybe_ there are legal limitations by the Ministry of Magic on wizards doing this, but we never learn of any.

@OzmaOfOzz

Жыл бұрын

@@harringt100 I have wondered in the past why wizards and witches don't get muggle jobs, they could be so good at them because they'd use magic .

@MelanieButera

Жыл бұрын

I think it would still be hard for him to hold down a muggle job. For one the taking off at least one day every month would eventually get suspicious even for muggles. Londons average sick leave is about 5 days per person per year. He could maybe use pto as it appears the UK requires employers to give employees at least 28 days of pto if you work 5 days a week but again it may be found to be off if he took 2-3 days off every month. This is also assuming he only needs 2-3 days off every month and not more, I don’t think an exact number is stated in the books how many days he’s out “sick”. Say he did manage to work out his leave every month, with Londons current cost of living and minimum wage he’d have to work the maximum of 48 hours a week every week. He wouldn’t have the qualifications to work anything else in the muggle world. We don’t hear about adult expenses in the books but there has to be a way to buy land and houses so I imagine there’s mortgages and rent in the Wizarding world and let’s assume food cost the same between worlds. So he’d save money on things like electricity, muggle technology, gas and garbage pick up. However he would need to purchase his potion that he takes the week up to the full moon and considering it is difficult to make and not many people are willing to make it, that in itself would cost a pretty penny. So even if he did work at a muggle job I think he’d still be living hand to mouth.

@OzmaOfOzz

Жыл бұрын

@@MelanieButera he could take off each month of he used a memory charm on his employer.. not saying thats the most ethical thing but..

I feel like I remember Hermione explaining multiplying left the food less filling and nutritious. Which is why Ron had trouble healing in book 7, because they were all malnourished. Rowling tended to equate magic to technology, like it was an alternative. The wizards thought they were superior, and had great advantages, but are often met with limitations just the same. Many were not very good at magic too. This is why Fred and George were so surprised their joke shop turned into government contracts. Author has a wound that magically won't clot or heal, so they resort to muggle bandages. The more muggle friendly wizards remark several times through the series that muggers were starting to have some impressive solutions to thing. I remember gold couldn't be made. Nifflelers were an expensive animal because they could find gold. But Hagrid used a fake gold that vanished overtime to demonstrate. They still have basic needs, magic is difficult, and resources are limited in some regards. Therfore, economy and stratification of it follow.

@nicksam5518

Жыл бұрын

very well said. anything valuable tends to be rare, and magic acts just like tech:it improves, but it has definite limits ...mabye more importantly, the ABILITY to use and excel at those abilities, is unevenly distributed. if all wizards could 'heal', why need st Mungo's? if money was easy, why need a bank, just enchant or hide it? human behavior was basically the same, just thru a different medium.

@blackeaglenrzero8607

Жыл бұрын

But i think you can turn muggle money into magic money like the parents of hermoine did in book 1. so why not multiply gold, sell it to a muggle trader who doesnt know about magic at all, take the real money and turn it into magic money. If it later vanishes in the muggles safe, they wont know why and thus cant act on it.

@T3AR_HD

Жыл бұрын

@@blackeaglenrzero8607 Thats not them magically turning it into gold, they exchanged it at gringotts just like you can turn any currency into another foreign one at that foreign bank. Hermione's parents were muggle dentists remember?

@dodesskiy1

Жыл бұрын

@@blackeaglenrzero8607 The person doing it would be looked for by the aurors, or I'd say that lesser agency. Exposing the magic world, theft, larceny, fraud. I think she does imply that many did do that, or tried doing that. That's why the ministry was even needed probably. Oh and the muggles that suffered from it would have to then get the money back, and memories modified.

@winslycan1309

Жыл бұрын

@@blackeaglenrzero8607 no, you cannot do it with gold. The only way you could do it is using Philosopher Stone and the only one has been destroyed in book 1. Besides, your money in the real world is actually gold you know? (The bank in each country can only issues money depending on gold on the Reserve. If the government bank issue more money or increase their money worth, your country will face inflation and turn into a case like Venezuela). So, what Hermione’s parents do is just make a simple currency exchange like changing their pounds into dollars. By the way, you can try to duplicate the gold, just like you can try to print money in real life. Jk Rowling already told the readers that magic cannot solve everything since book 1. Hagrid told Harry that magical world has its problems as well, so people from the two world should just care for their own stuffs instead of relying on magic to do anything. Magic in the book is just a symbolism for privilege. With magic, you will not die from hunger, or die when childbirth or die of not having a place to live. But are you happy when having those privilege is another case (Voldermort’s mother). There is a systemic rule to all writing: when you write about magic, you advertise as if it could do everything in the world, but actually, it’s just some form of technology. Every fantasy follows this rule. A good magic system is a system with limits.

Multiplying money would lead to hyperinflation. Likely goblins had a method of checking if an item had been magically created or just manipulated to prevent this and as such, they became the bankers of the wizarding world

@bobjohnson1633

Жыл бұрын

You don't multiply money. You multiply a valuable thing. It's called production.

@UnholyWrath3277

Жыл бұрын

​@@bobjohnson1633 that creates the samd problem. Now said valuable object becomes over saturated thus removing any value it once had as anyone and everyone could acquire it cheap.

Travelling in the wizard world sounds a lot more interesting considering you can expand the inside of a suitcase that you create another universe.

I think the general understanding is that you can multiply the food you have, but it gets progressively less nutritious and flavorful the more you do so. If I remember correctly in DH, the trio does extend the physical amount of food they have, but they aren't getting enough nutrition despite their bellies being full. In reality, Rowling didn't make that rule until DH and it was solely to increase the tension between the trio while they had the locket. There was zero indication in previous books of this; the Weasleys were always very well fed, and Ron's mom in fact makes a sauce sprout from her wand at one point. As for making money with magic, I imagine it's like real life: you technically can do it, but it's illegal and there's probably ways of magically detecting counterfeit coins.

@kaytusha408

Жыл бұрын

maybe there's some magical item that can prevent this, kinda of like the other magical items, it's just that the trio did'nt have this object at the time, so that could explain how the Weasleys are always so well fed

@kaytusha408

Жыл бұрын

maybe one of the Weasley parents invented this item, though it would'nt help the fact that thier poor

@kas1680

Жыл бұрын

Well we muggles use special paper and ink and machines to produce money that can't be easily falsified at home with a printer, I'd assume that wizard's money somehow shares this aspect of Muggle money, as it's made of something that makes it difficult to falsify with magic. But well, just don't think about it too hard. HP universe requires heightened levels of suspension of disbelief

@Astrid-88

Жыл бұрын

Like the leprechaun gold coins, that can be used for transactions (people won the money, and Ron "paid" Harry for something with the money) but will disappear after a few hours and can be detected by goblins (there was a scene a goblin was checking gold coins and muttering "leprechaun" somewhere in the books).

@randomlyrandoization

Жыл бұрын

I legit thought I imagined that one part about Molly make that sauce from her wand. Every time I brought it up, nobody knew what I was talking about.

To be fair about Lupin, I believe he was recovering from a full moon transformation not long before the train journey. He looked better not just from the abundant food but also because he was recovering and gaining strength back after becoming a werewolf that month.

Tonks mentioned not being adept at certain domestic type spells. This was in Order of the Phoenix, when she was helping Harry pack. Harry and Hermione only got practical exposure to domestic spells for a couple of weeks during the holidays and Molly was a stickler on under age use of magic. Conclusion: Hogwarts needs a Home Economics program.

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Жыл бұрын

Which just shows yet another area where Mrs. Weasley could have earned extra money for the family once her youngest was at Hogwarts. If Tonks and other witches or wizards aren't good at domestic magic and can't afford the kind of home that comes with a house elf there is nothing to say they can't spend some sickles to have somebody like Mrs. Weasley come in for maid service. It really makes me wonder WTF she did with her time once all the kids were out of the house.

@deathsheir2035

Жыл бұрын

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 " It really makes me wonder WTF she did with her time once all the kids were out of the house." quality protected, naughty fun times with her husband of course.

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Жыл бұрын

@@deathsheir2035 yeah but the man does work a full time job ya know?

@diabloakland

Жыл бұрын

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 yeah and they also had things to do on their land if i remember correctly in the books they had garden gnomes and chickens maybe she took care of the livestock and honestly they’re probably both so exhausted lol

@x_void_princess_x

Жыл бұрын

@@deathsheir2035 no wonder they have so many kids

I always questioned why his briefcase said Professor RJ Lupin, in peeling gold letters. But he was a new teacher.

@l.a.williams1879

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure he just added the professor, and it wouldn’t make sense to make it look all brand new, so he replicated the letters that were already there

@diabloakland

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he ripped them up transforming one night

House Elves and Goblins could probably do more within the limitations of Gamp's Law, too. After all they have their own innate form of magic that doesn't involve the use of wands, and probably relates to things involving food/cooking and crafstmanship, respectively

@deathsheir2035

Жыл бұрын

@Jake Folk Considering they can apparate into, around, and out of Hogwarts, when no Witch or Wizard Can... So, who says they haven't found some way to bypass the Exceptions to Gamp's Law, and they're the only ones capable of doing such an act? Joking aside, they work in the kitchens of hogwarts, and clearly mentioned to be cooking, and not conjuring food out of no where. If I read the fourth book properly.

I always assumed Lupin's condition was more about being depressed and feeling bad about himself because of his werewolf status and Dumbledore accepting him and making him a teacher gave him some confidence and hope and so he started to care for himself again.

There is a LOT we don't know, despite all the canon :D Firstly of course, and the easiest, is the Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration concerning food. Probably everyone's familiar with it, and as others have pointed out in the comments even though Hermione tried multiplying the food they already had it was of poorer quality, and that's coming from Hermione who's an exceptional witch. And sometimes we did witness, I think, Mrs Weasley pouring some kind of sauce right out of the tip of her wand, but we don't know the details. We know that you can make stuff disappear and make them reappear and I always imagined that stuff goes in some freak dimension, Star Trek would say it's shifted out of phase :P so perhaps Mrs Weasley was simply resummoning the sauce she already made and stashed away. That would not violate Gamp's Law. And I guess their currency is protected by magical means just like ours is protected by UV stuff, watermarks and whatnots. And also, not everyone's good at every spell. Mending, fixing, sewing, cleaning, scrubbing, cooking; most certainly takes skill, I mean they were able to mess up Wingardium Leviosa, imagine how much easier it is to mess up a spell that sews your tattered clothes back together? It's literally like asking someone in your family why they don't pick up a needle and a thread and fix the holes in their socks :) Takes will, time, effort, skill... To us Muggles magic seems like the universal answer to every problem, but to wizards it introduces different kinds of struggles.

@maomi1852

Жыл бұрын

Well said, this is everything I wanted to comment and very well explained.

@philipus.

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Reparo.

@SpottedHares

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Ron points out that his mom can do this but Hermione points out that it's not possible to create food with magic only multiply it summon it or change it. It ends their and we never get a full explanation.

I have friends and family with a wide range of economic situation, ages, and importantly: abilities to care for themselves. Sometimes it is not wealth that decides how well you eat or dress or look. And one person might be accepting of a standard of living that would leave another person aghast. Lupin might have had masterful magical abilities but he also showed signs of chronic depression, anxiety, and resistance to interpersonal relationships Those all take their toll on him alongside and related to his werewolf illness.

I would also consider the skill required to do specific magic. Much like in real world it might be the case people don't learn / forget more complex spells. Fixing something crude or simple may be easy but fixing patch of clothes thread by thead might be to finicky to most. So you may need to hire an expert to repair clothes, setup "home automation" with brooms and such, and especially create pocket dimensions within walls of house, tent or even a suitcase. Those services would cost a pretty knut

The whole thing with Remus being able to buy food is good and all but we need to remember that he probably ha to buy ingredients for his wolfsbane and we know the ingredients are not easy to come across so they’re probably expensive and seen the fact that he didn’t have a safe place to transform he definitely needed it 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Lupin felt guilty for his lycanthropy. I imagine that, although he could afford to buy food here & there, he likely felt undeserving of taking a resource that would better help another with even less than he. Lupin had a good heart.

For the matter of “why not just multiply existing gold” - although not explicitly confirmed in canon, I like to think it’s similar to muggle counterfeiting. Sure you can make duplicates of irl money, but there’s a plethora of security measures in place to prevent this; perhaps the wizard of world is the same? Like, perhaps the Gringotts Goblins hex/charm every Galleon, Sickle or Knut which authenticates it and counterfeit ones are singled out? 😅

@clover2739

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, the fact griphook can easily tell the gryffindor sword is a fake since it’s goblin made I’m pretty sure they can easily do it with money in general. They definitely aren’t stupid and are super strict, they would be able to tell.

@swimmingmide

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@@clover2739 Just add a step or two. Go to a muggle pawn shop, buy some real gold, multiply it magically and sell it back to the same pawn shop or a different one to recover your costs and make a profit in muggle money. Then take the profits and buy gold you know has not had magic used on it and trade that to the goblins for goods and services. There has to be some cross over between the two economies, at least in terms of raw materials used to produce things.

@dodesskiy1

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@@swimmingmide And before you know it, Magical Law Enforcement squad shows up LOL. Then all your misdeeds are tracked down to be reversed. But I'm sure it's the type of stuff Mundungus Fletcher, and his likes were all trying to do every day. Hence even the need for the ministry.

@swimmingmide

Жыл бұрын

@@dodesskiy1 but why would the ministry care about real gold being traded for fake gold that could not be detected by muggle brokers? Goblin bankers know the difference between real and fake gold but regular bankers do not. Are the ministry devoting huge amounts of time and energy to preventing wizards from enriching themselves in the muggle world? To what point? The more rich wizards the less likely they are to be outed as wizards, the more likely they are to take over political offices that would regulate them in the Muggle world.

I always wondered why no wizard studied Physics i know its from the Muggle World but if you understand it the magical applications of it would be insane.

@Pb-rw7gs

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I’m sure over achievers, like hermione probably do go back to muggle schooling if they think they have something to learn. After all, we get the story from the point of view of a kid who isn’t particularly gifted or anything, he was just chosen and therefore chooses to survive. The only people we learn are experimental with their magic, and successful are dumbledore, snape and Flamel; I wish the book went into details as to how they figured these out. We know dumbledore’s a genius but how did he figure out the uses of dragon blood or whatever.

@lucianofrancesco4742

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In a way, the muggles also had a vastly superior method of comunication than whatever we saw in the wizarding world (the telephone).

@haydenscholze7452

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@@lucianofrancesco4742 That is actually not true as during the time period in the books. Phones and the internet didn’t even exists

@lucianofrancesco4742

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@@haydenscholze7452 Telephones did exist and I assure you that they are a more efficient method of communication than OWLS.

@haydenscholze7452

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@@lucianofrancesco4742 Yea my mistake phones exist. But it not like the wizarding world didn’t have superior methods too. Such as transport.

I don't think Remus was necessarily hungry, it could just be Harry's interpretation of either that it's further from the full moon (perhaps Remus was just recovering when he took the train) or that the Wolfsbane Potion that Snape supplied him with invigorated him quickly and made the symptoms more bearable not only during the full moon but it might have helped the aftermath-symptoms as well. This would then lead to Remus looking healthier the same way a famished person would after a few days worth of square meals Edit: Saw someone else mention and I wanted to add my support to the idea that Remus is/was depressed and wasn't taking as good care of himself, but when depressed people are given a job and get some inspiration that can result in an upswing in mood and thus of self-care (source: I have depression)

Now that you mention it, if Hermione can fix Harry's broken glasses simply by intoning "Oculus reparo" why didn't Remus Lupin conjure himself better clothing? And for that matter, why didn't the Weasley's fix Ron's hand-me-down robes to look new, or teach him the proper incantation? At least poverty could have been masked.

@mryellow6918

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Who's to say what clothes are repaird? They could just revert back to a plant or raw wool

A part of the issue might be the wand itself as in some descriptions of Wands Ollivander notes some are better for charms Transfiguration etc etc for example Helga Hufflepuff was particularly gifted with food charms, another could depend on the intelligence of The Wizard or witch and simply forgetting what they learned in school after all everybody at Hogwarts takes defense against the dark arts but only few become aurors and could potentially crap themselves in the presence of a dangerous creature

Interesting fact, somebody looked up the day Harry first met Lupin and it was the day after the full moon. The reason he looked so ill is because of his recent transformation.

A fanfic I read pointed out that Remus could have set up a small little repair shop and use "reparo" on broken muggle things, wait for a reasonable time and then declare it repaired. He could have easily lived quietly in the muggle world doing that and as a shop owner, it didn't matter if he closed shop a few days a month. As long as he didn't become greedy or attempt to fix something that would have raised eyebrows he could have lived rather comfortably. It's always the economy side of things that screws up world-builders. Unless they get that down,. their world doesn't bear up to scrutiny.

Personally, I always took Lupin's description to be a result of his curse and subsequent low self esteem. Lupin probably suffered from depression and probably didn't take very good care of himself normally. Hogwarts was a much healthier environment for him and meeting and befriending his best friend's son probably did wonders for his mood. Additionally, his health waxes and wanes with the lunar cycle. It's likely that Harry met him during a low point in his cycle.

Another plothole for me is the magic enlargement charm (like the tents and the ministry cars). Wouldn’t that mean that the weaslys only need a very small house but could conjure it very big inside and nobody had to share rooms and they had a lot of space.

@hackfleischking5162

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The magic enlagement charm must be very difficult. Even Hermine had problems with that charm after 6 years. She had no problem with protean charm but she was not shure about the magic enlargment of an ordinary bag. A big tent, a car or house whould be much harder. If someone like hermine has a hard time with this spell on a small object doing it, there are specialised wizards for this for bigger objects. Durability plays a big role two. If the magic fades and the rooms in a house shrink with people inside it would make quite a mess.

@patriksalata6506

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I think that in order to make big place look small, in the first place, you need that big space. So they need make big space with lot´s of things, and make it looks small. You not make a space, just already big space make look smaller. In order to make tent to look small, you need big tent, and then make it look small. Not just make small tent with all the space and things.

@mryellow6918

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That's like saying why would you buy a car when as a human. You have the Internet and knowledge to be able to build one.

@TeslaHaxz

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@@mryellow6918 its not like that at all wtf

@mryellow6918

Жыл бұрын

@@TeslaHaxz how is it not?

Thank you! I've been wondering this for a while and your answer was very helpful! Keep it up - I love your videos!

Simple explanations, Skill: not everyone can use magic evenly (Case and point, Neville vs Hermione) so it's probably that many witches and wizards aren't skilled enough to repair their stuff so easily Diminished returns: in many cases it has shown that magical repairs/duplicates aren't perfect or that items are damaged beyond magical repair (Harry's wand was impossible to fix by standard magic, duplicated food had no nutrition, and duplicated items degraded so fast they are considered worthless(Griphook states as such duringthe hiest)) so eventually the repairs/duplicates would wear off faster than they could be cast Faded magic: magic isn't generally permanent and fades over time, so items created by magic will generally down just like everything else with some exceptions (most of which aren't made from human magic thus out of reach of the standard wizard or witch) Spell decasting: there are many times where items made of or affected by magic are reverted by anti fraud charms and such, making such items even more worthless than real versions

Id like to hear more about gamps law! Also other laws of magic.

@Synthesid

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They're a bit obscure in the lore. One might have a much better luck searching for more info on them under the broader definition of "weak and obvious plothole cover-ups".

I don't think Lupin was portrayed as especially hungry. It was just one of the many suppositions made as to why he looked ill since the students didn't know he was a werewolf.

i would love a video detailing gamps law!! i love magical theory, pls do deep dives on the way magic functions, its super interesting

The reason multiplication problem enlargement doesn’t alter his intake of nourishment is because the thinner you spread something the less useful it is. If you multiplied the good you might make the belly feel fuller but you didn’t actually take in more nourishment than was originally available. You simply spread it more thinly across the larger amount.

I always think that sometimes JK didnt think things through that well and she just does things because she wants to and just fill in the plot. Its just that there are millions of fans that have their own ideas and opinions on things. Of course millions will be able to think more than just 1 person but then again we are the ones that are enjoying the stories written by this 1 person

@oldkingcrow777

Жыл бұрын

Yup, like 99.9% of authors. When millions of folks are essentially proof reading your stuff, they're going to find even the smallest of plot holes. This is a middle plot hole to me haha

@Chavanun555

Жыл бұрын

@@oldkingcrow777 exactly

@etienne8110

Жыл бұрын

That's called "suspension of disbelief" people agree to oversee some plot hole to enjoy the story. Plus it is a story meant for kids, so no wonder the economical plausibility of the story isn't a main stake. ^^

@Chavanun555

Жыл бұрын

@@etienne8110 exactly with all other stuff in the books too. What Jk wanted it to be and how the readers refer their theories from the books. If Jk said she wants it like that then its like that no theories needed

@antiochus87

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It seems like a very common thing in fantasy and science fiction, where economics is not thought out. We live in a very capitalist world today, to such an extent that most people have trouble imagining any other form of economics. Many writers fail to imagine an economic system that matches the technology or magic of the world that they build. Maybe it's lack of creativity, maybe they still want elements of economics from the current economic system for relatability. Harry Potter is essentially a children's series with a very overtly good vs evil storyline in it, so these criticisms may seem more harsh than other works aimed solely at adults.

Lupin may have been in isolation without access to food prior to joining Hogwarts. Also, I imagine the transformation to/from a Werewolf uses a lot of energy. I assumed that some wizards and witches were just bad at the spells to make/repair clothes. Fashion doesn't seem to be a high priority for Mr & Mrs Weasley. Replicating food/drink would be particularly difficult and any mistake could have dangerous consequences of food poisoning, taste really bad or has poor nutritional value.

@Astrid-88

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Just like the time Ron tried to modify his old-fashioned robes for the ball, and ended with it looking even worse.

When Remus Lupin is introduced on the train what was the timing in the lunar cycle? That could be a partial explanation for his physical appearance.

@Hugin-N-Munin

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Apparently, it was right after his time of the month, so he was all wrung out like a dirty dishrag

I always wondered (in addition to many other things) why more wizards didn't just steal muggle money. It's established in the 2nd book that there's a muggle money/wizard money exchange in Gringotts when Hermione's parents needed to make an exchange so they could purchase her school supplies. Even if duplicates muggle money could be identified by the goblins, wizards could literally just use magic to take money out of ATMs or cash registers through a variety of means.

@gregoryfenn1462

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Muggles would notice (we are pretty good at accounting) and so mucking with muggle economics probably violates the International Statute of Magical Secrecy. Or whatever it is called

@Slade951

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@@gregoryfenn1462 steal from drug Lords?

@nicksam5518

Жыл бұрын

I always assumed some 'good' wizards were paid by muggles to protect banks, atms, etc w commonly unknown charms to stop thieving. if it was kept unknown, the wizard to witch would quite at some point knowing it was blocked.(they would figure it was somehow enchanted )

@mryellow6918

Жыл бұрын

Well yes. Its probably not allowed. But you could offer your service as a craftsmen. To do things like grow food on your farm with magic super fast and then sell them

It seems pretty easy to explain, though: magic requires casting spells that may require energy to be maintained. When the spell caster stops using their energy for the spell, it wears off. Shabby clothes look shabby again. Transfigured food becomes what it once was - which could be very dangerous once eaten. I like the explaination that was proposed in the fanfiction Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, when McGonagall gave her first transfiguration class. It was just about that 🙂

I believe you forgot some other points mention in the books concerning issue about poverty. Firstly, the Weasly, was while less off than other families, didn't stave. It was mentioned in The Deadly Hallows, when the trio were on, that Ron was suffer more than the others because he wasn't used to have meager food, due to both Hogwarts, and Eating well at home. So, the Weasly, while poor, have plenty of food. The fact is the question on how people earn a living in the magical world.

@Hugin-N-Munin

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Yeah, the Weasleys didn't starve, which, y'know, food insecurity is a pretty massive indicator of poverty and deprivation. But I'm guessing they were 'poor' in the sense of 'having no cash', for all the things they couldn't grow or produce themselves. Like...wands, robes, school textbooks (I mean, Gilderoy Lockhart's seven books, times five children.). They're fine in one sense, but they have to make tough choices in other, more externally visible areas

@mryellow6918

Жыл бұрын

I'd asume basics are very easy for wizards. Like you cant be in an issue to just survive. But things like clothes or books you can't just make probably cost alot.

I can think of two reasons for not multiplying stuff food/ gold 1. Its possible but people don't know the exact spell, hidden so the wizarding economy doesn't face insane inflation 2. Multiplying stuff may lead to it being diluted or worse quality, so regardless of the number of apples the amount of nutrients would be the same, hence Lupin was weak.

I thought the first meeting of Lupin was the day after a full moon so the real reason he looked like death eating a cracker was him recovering from the night spent running around as an angry wolf person.

"Today we are going to be discussing wizarding economics..." This is precicely the sort of thing the Internet should be used for. Thank you for doing what you do

@dodesskiy1

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. But then she needed to starve Ron so he'd leave them. So the Gamp's law comes into play. People make way too much of the fake magic mechanics. It was all meant to be about friendship, love, overcoming his bad side by Ron.

Could we have a video about how Hermione and muggle borns manage to buy things in the wizarding world? just thought of that q!

@clover2739

Жыл бұрын

I mean… they just go to diagon ally through the leaky cauldron and then they transfer their muggle money. I’m sure someone will be there with hagrid with Harry to show them how to get in at first.

@uriel6934

Жыл бұрын

They convert their muggles currency into wizarding currency

For Remus the suggestion is that he didn’t use magic after Sirius “betrayed” the potters and that it’s his mental health that makes him poor and malnourished as well as being a werewolf as opposed to a lack of money

The explanation for expanding food is it goes further (solves hunger) but the nutrition doesn't expand. Think of it like putting sawdust in bread. Of course even a marginal wizzard could steal food from Muggles. It takes an exceptional alchemist to transform items to gold; only 1 example in hundreds of years. Cleaning clothing isn't difficult (ex: dusting robes after flue travel) but self-repairing cloaks require spells. Madam Malkin sold self-ironing and self-repairing robes.

I always thought things that were multiplied wouldn’t stay that way for long. Like in bellatrix vault. Also like they show in GoF where the leprechaun gold vanishes after an a amount of time there’s clearly ways to bewitch money. So to me, goblins could have anti duplicate/multiply spells on all the coins. These plots holes never really bothered me though. In the books spells and charms are different than the movies. I’m sure in the book universe you need certain ingredients and or potions to duplicate things. Which those ingredients cost, you guessed it, money.

Does the Gemino curse factor into Poverty? In DH2 in Bellatrix’s vault everything multiplies that they touch. Couldn’t poor families cast that spell on their belongings and sell them or would the value decrease because it’s essentially a copy of an original item? I’d love to hear your opinion on this.

Another major basic needs bonus on top of multiplying food storage would be to multiply the interior size of dwellings. This means that they can get both food and shelter fair laid cheap and make it significantly bigger with magic.

answer: Rowling pretends to be a lot smarter than she is and her work has as many plotholes as the bible itself

@Synthesid

Жыл бұрын

So much this.

@Sham_Knubs

Жыл бұрын

And then she debunks all the good fan theories when she clearly doesn’t have an answer herself

I think it's more complicated for Remus. I think he would forget to eat. I have a friend who does this. Not sure if Remus puts much value in food but around people I'm sure he follows what others do to keep up appearances.

With the duplication or enlargement charms it makes me think why some don't do side hustles selling trinkets and such like in places such as London where there would be plenty of muggles to sell stuff to that wouldn't know either way on how they were made.

They said part of the rule of multiplying food was that you could make more but it lost nutritional value and substance as you did, so you could say have one fish and turn it into 2 fish, but eating one of those would be like only eating half of the original fish

These rules make the wizarding world less magical

@TalonSky

Жыл бұрын

Hard disagree. For me having some rules that magic follows, and thus allows the reader to follow along and predict, makes magic feel like a tool that can be used to solve problems in clever and understandable ways. Completely soft magic systems, like in Lord of the Rings, makes magic out to be a deus ex machina that does whatever the plot needs it to. Not that there's anything wrong with that inherently, but it doesn't work as well in a story about going to a magic school to literally learn how magic works.

@greenguy369

Жыл бұрын

@@TalonSky Someone is bound to bring up this Sanderson logic in any discussion about limitations on magic...

@TalonSky

Жыл бұрын

@@greenguy369 I don't really know what you mean by Sanderson logic?

Can you please do Is Jesus Christ a Wizard?

@davidkennedy8929

Жыл бұрын

Please don’t bring your religious beliefs into the Harry Potter universe.

@YellowBear-kx1ff

Жыл бұрын

@@davidkennedy8929 He MAY have been a Wizard in Harry Potter.

@kyguy3242

Жыл бұрын

@@davidkennedy8929 I could easily see an Atheist posing this same question, since it's all fictional to them anyway.

@TalonSky

Жыл бұрын

@@YellowBear-kx1ff the channel Religion for Breakfast did a good deep dive into the idea of Jesus being a magi/magician a few years ago. Highly recommend their channel.

@crapbag666

Жыл бұрын

@@davidkennedy8929 um Jesus could have been a wizard and then when he got caught doing magic. He played it off that he was a God while doing good with his magic.

Lupin wasn’t really hungry in the beginning of the year, he only looked that way because he just finished a werewolf transformation

Video idea for you to do: What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?

@raptor463

Жыл бұрын

Combat lethifolds. pretty sure those are the only two defensive uses. Then there is using it to send messages but that's about it really

If I remember correctly the last book addresses multiplication of food during the stint in the wilderness by saying that the nutrition is constant no matter how much you enlarge or multiply food, all you are doing is bulking the mass, if you get me.

One thing to consider, is that magic economy should follow the rules of any other economy. You have certain things (effort, time, knowledge and resources) that you could apply and spend to generate something (a.k.a. to produce), and you have two options: you try to satisfy every need with things you produce, or you exchange it with what other people did. Through specialization and division of labor, the second option is the key to create value: you are good enough at doing something, that you save others from having to do it. If wizards were part of the general (muggle) population, then it would be easier for them to apply their magical ability to their jobs. But in a society were all the people is magical, everyone else also has the ability to easily do what you could do, so you're limited in what jobs could you perform good enough for people to prefer to pay you instead of doing it themselves.

i feel like the reason why remus was so hungry is bc since he’s a werewolf, and we know that on the day harry describes him, it was near full moon and i heard werewolves were hungrier around their transformation

I think Lupin wasn't hungry at the start of the books, I think his appearance was tied to his werewolf curse. Take into account that we experience the wizarding world through Harry Potter's eyes, and at the start of Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry is completely unaware of Remus Lupin's werewolf condition.

As far as money is concerned, I think that only real material is considered real money, and goblins (and wizards with a spell) can tell if it is fake, or created in some way by a spell. The only exception is the philosophy stone which changes things at an atomic level, meaning it does become real gold.

Not sure if I missed it, but any reason why you couldn't just "multiply" money and then buy what you needed from that? In addition, If you can summon food from a known location... then you could summon all of your groceries from the parking lot of a store or summon a meal from a restaurant. It's stealing, but it's an option.

Very interesting vídeo! What a plot hole with the food… please do the one explaining Gamp’s law that would explain many things of the wizarding world🥰

Hunger could be a result of werewolfism too. He likely didn’t have access to whatever potion Snape was brewing him

we might look for a magical explanation regarding the gold in other fantasy writing. I think it's mentioned in the wizard of earthsea series (or maybe the discworld) that increasing the amount of gold in the world would change its weight and therefore affect its spin

Why didn't Lupin get a muggle job? Just doing paperwork or something? Like it might become a running joke that he's always ill on a full moon but why would anyone work out he's a werewolf (although they'd probably joke it) and we know Gringotts convert muggle money to wizard money!

just a thought, nothing to back it up but could it be possible another reason lupin was “poor” is because he spent all of the little money he had on the ingredients of his expensive, borderline necessary, wolfbane potion? but again, just a neat thought i had :)

The multiplication of existing stuff is a broken ability, there is essentially no concept of resource from that point on. I prefer to interpret it as you just cant create it period. You always have to "steal" it from somewhere. It would explain why Lupin is so poor, he has high morals that would prevent him from duplicating his food as he would fear to put somebody else in trouble. Also money (gold and silver pieces) is probably protected by a bunch of super secure counterspells.

*this is somewhat off topic but are there any other woods outside those mentioned used for wands that could also be construed to have latent magical inclinations if properly charmed?...was particularly thinking of what Manchineel wood could do as a wand...given it's incredibly poisonous nature it would in all probability be a dark arts wand and be extremely dangerous to even handle by anyone other than the one it was bonded to...i also imagine such a wand would have an equally dark core if not more than one bundled together in an unstable way...and quite possibly have a very vindictive personality and enjoy casting spells that caused great pain or harm to others...just personal head canon*

A good explanation to multiplying food is that is also divides the fulfillment and/or nutrient you get from it.

I never thought Lupin was poor. I assumed his appearance was do to him being a werewolf. He's sickly looking either due to the uncontrollable transformations, or due to the potion he takes to stop the transformations. Even in the wizarding world werewolf's are outcast, so he would assumably move around a lot and travel light. And with the constant traveling and wolfing out, his clothes are bound to get tattered and torn, and magic can only do so much to repair and clean them. Or maybe I read way to far into things lol

That’s what happens when you write an open magic system early in a book. It makes so many plot holes along the way that you gotta find explanation for

If you can’t conjure something from nothing, how do you multiply something? Unless multiplying food really only halves the originals sustenance value when you double the quantity.

A video on Gamps Law would be great

The problem with multiplying food comes with the fact that the food amount increases but the nutrients from the original portion is not increased, just spread out amongst the guantity of food. Hermione states this in the deathly hallows when she duplicates food for herself, Ron, and Harry

I wonder if the catch attached to multiplying food or enlarging it is that the number of calories doesn’t change. If you take one 2000 calorie meal of x size, and turn it into two equally sized meals of x size, then it is the calorie portion that is halved…and then rest is just illusion.

I would love a full video on Gamp´s law.

I think that Lupin wasn’t hungry, but was dealing with the effects of his transformations into a werewolf every month. He looked better at Hogwarts because Snape was giving him the potion. Even though he had not been at Hogwarts long enough to need the potion to keep him from transforming, it was already having an effect on him. Harry just assumed it was because he was feeling better because he was eating better.

The perception of Lupin's condition is overlooking how close they were to the full moon.

It could be that food multiplication might still require you to have the ingredients for it somewhere in the vicinity, like if I wanted to multiply bread might still need the dough nearby and let the magic do the rest or something of that nature, but it could also be plot holes as these books like many others probably aren't pre-planned out to a t upon the first writing and I'm sure some rules have been shoe horned in here and their on minor points etc

6:05 What's stopping Lupin from "Summoning" i.e. Teleporting food straight from store shop windows or out of restaurants? Yes it would be stealing but what's really preventing them him in the wizarding, does every place come with a magical warding seal? An if so then what stoping him from doing that in the muggle world, they have aurors on petrol at ever corner?

One possible explanation for Lupin being ill-fed when Harry meets him the first time is quite simple: How long before the trio met him on the train was his last job? If it's been more than a week he certainly has an excuse for looking hungry and ill.

Presumably, as gants law is similar to the principle of conservation of mass/energy (E=mc^2), energy would have to be expended to increase food. If magic allowed for perfectly efficient transfer, lupin would only ever be able to increase his food by a factor of all the energy in his previous meal (that was converted to magic power). If he does no other spells he could extend his food indefinitely, only enough to replenish his current store of magic. For the Weaslies, they share the food, thus the energy is dispersed.

I think it was in the books on the deathly hallows that you can multiply food but the taste and nutrition degrades, so you can fill your stomach but you wouldn't get much out of it

Skip the conjuring or duplicating food part. Imagine how much easier farming and raising animals would be with magic replacing manual labor.

Definitely would like a video diving into gamps laws

I think not being able to produce food is just a plot device, with its own plot holes. If they can transfigure something into a plant, surely they can transfigure it to be an edible one. They have also been shown to be able to transfigure inanimate objects into animals, which could also (unfortunately) be killed and eaten. Maybe, for some reason, they can't transfigure a ready meal, but surely some extra charms after the transfiguration would work. Besides, they also have the aguamenti spell, which is "creating something out of nothing" or at least using the already existing chemical composition of the air to condensate hydrogen and oxygen from the environment into water

What about the Gemini charm? If it multiplies everything it touches, in theory for a brief moment you could just double the amount you have? I’d think mainly for gold or something. If the Gemini charm could then be removed, would the gold multiplied in turn disappear or stay?

I thought that I'd read something that states that the reason Lupin looks so ill on the train when we 1st meet him is that it was just approaching or more likely just after the full moon where he'd spent a few days in Wolf form and the changes take its toll on him. I forget where I read this so not necessarily cannon but it seems a likely possibility

As far as money goes, anything that can be replicated couldn't be used as currency. That's why so much effort is put into making it hard to counterfeit bills.

I could be mistaken but I think it's said somewhere that if you multiply food using i.e. the gemino charm the food will lose its nutrients. Duplicate a loaf of bread once and you have two loaves with 50% nutrient in each, duplicate wither another time and you have two loaves with 25% nutrients and one with 50%. You could multiply it infinitely, and the bread could probably remove your hunger but never give you the proper nutrients you need to survive.

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