A smaller Spanish derby is the Galician Derby between the Celta de Vigo and el Deportivo da Coruña, being the teams of the two biggest cities in Galicia (the already mentioned Vigo and A Coruña), which themselves have a long-lasting rivalry. The funny part about the Galician Derby is that it has been basically cancelled since 2018, as the Deportivo has fallen pretty hard into Third Division, while the Celta is still in First Division.

@rogink

11 ай бұрын

A few years ago it seemed 'Deportivo' were always around European football, around the 3-4 biggest club in Spain.

@Toma23358

11 ай бұрын

Copa 90 has great video about that derby

Gotta love sports politics

@Iniquitous1

Ай бұрын

Football was made due to politics

I remember as a small kid wondering why Atletico Madrid and Athletic Bilbao had such similar names. I never knew there was such a connection!

Aren't all derby bitter rivalries though? (Utd- City, LFC-Everton, Arsenal- Chelsea, Arsenal- Tottenham, Rangers-Celtic etc)

@leometz7287

11 ай бұрын

It's kinda funny in Germany. When Berlin was split, Hertha BSC and Union Berlin where friends. Both hated the StaSi Club Dynamo. Now Dynamo plays in 4th division and the other two clubs became rivals, devided by East vs West German heritage and socioeconomics (Hertha is more established, Union is more of a workers club. Also Hertha is the Old Lady vs Union has a younger fanbase)

@lellol8471

11 ай бұрын

They are, usually those rivalries come about when either 2 clubs are the biggest in the country and both compete for trophies or 2 are from the same location, there are exceptions but that's, for the most part, the rule

@rogink

11 ай бұрын

@@leometz7287 Aren't Union in the Bundesliga 1. though?

@leometz7287

11 ай бұрын

@@rogink yes, they are. But they never were supposed to be. Hertha has sunk millions and still relegated. Union has less money but plays Champions League

@faenethlorhalien

11 ай бұрын

In Spain we call those "Guerras de campanario", belfry wars, as it does feel like two little towns bickering at each other because they're next to each other, for no reason other than tribalism.

Atlético* Madrid, not "Athletico"

i never imagined that this would be such an interesting topic, nice job hilbert!

Real Madrid has 20 Copa del Rey not 40.

Great Video, I absolutely love your videos on football history

Hilbert!!! First of all, love the football videos keep it up! Second of all, de Friese derby is a very interesting topic if you're looking for suggestions!

love the football history videos lately

Love these videos so much

Atleti fan over here

@Yasinvanpersie

9 ай бұрын

Vamos Los Colchoneros

Hello hilbert it’s the people you visited at scouts!! Nearly to 450,000 you can do it!!!

Great video

could have spelt their name right Hilbert 😮

@historywithhilbert146

11 ай бұрын

Oof better change that title now then

@RandomVidsforthought

11 ай бұрын

​@@historywithhilbert146You are aware that you commented on a @HistoryMatters video saying: "I cry every time" right?

The 3 way derby of Fenerbahce, Galatasaray & Besiktas next

@rogink

11 ай бұрын

I'm not sure that is permissible. A bit like a three-way relationship?

@RiggerHippie

11 ай бұрын

@@rogink everyone loves a bit of Ménage à trois

Aúpa Rayo! El mejor equipo de Madrid

Hello Hilbert. You can judge the rivalry by how I got some right stick on comments elsewhere for saying how much Atlético improved whilst I was watching them in the Europa Cup, some years back on terrestrial UK TV. They went on to play Real in the Champions League final a couple of years later. It was not as if I expressed a liking for the club, but it certainly got some people's back up. Interesting to see how they were linked to Athletic Club, who also played well in the Europa Cup, back when I was watching. Next time Celtic v Rangers? I might have understood how this could be controversial to comment on.

@rogink

11 ай бұрын

I was thinking about the Old Firm when he mentioned how politics decided your team. I guess the Glasgow clubs are all that is left of religious rivalries - at least outside N Ireland - but in the past it determined your support for Liverpool or Everton, Hibs v Hearts, Dundee v Dundee Utd. Fortunately those other clubs seem to have moved on...

@rogink

11 ай бұрын

I should also add that you might not like Real, but supporting a club with Simeone in charge takes a special kind of stupid.

I'm an American that neither knows nor cares much about association football, but I like Athletico solely for its emblem's superficial resemblance of the good ol' stars and stripes

Aren’t Rayo Vallecano and Getafe also full professional football clubs in Madrid?

@challah4311

5 ай бұрын

so are Alcoron, Leganés, Rayo Majadahonda, Fuenlabrada, etc.

@robertosc2634

25 күн бұрын

Alcorcon, Leganés, Rayo Majadahonda, Fuenlabrada and Getafe are all from municipalities that are vary close to Madrid and seen as part of Madrid’s metropolitan area, but only Rayo Vallecano (which is mentioned in the video btw) is inside the actual city of Madrid.

Interesting video, but next time, could you please use the historical club logos?

More rivalry explanations plz.

Love our channel been bing watching it for years, and that vidoe would fit in perfectly with your other vidoes about the line between Germanic an Romance languag lines in Wetsern Europe (think of belgium revolution and such). People need to know that there is an acadamic different between the peopele know as the franks (wich came before) and the French fom 800s onwards,

@axolotl-guy9801

11 ай бұрын

It has both to do with culture, language, and herigitage. And etymoligical quests.

A suggestion - Los Cincos Grandes from BsAs (Boca Jrs, Racing, River Plate, San Lorenzo & the one I can't remember, perdón pibes)? :)

minute 3:13 that would be Alphonse XIII not VIII :)

You could’ve just spelled it Atletico rather than Athletico

I LOVE RAYO VALLECANO, THE SO CALLED GIANT KILLERS :D

@charliezobel511

11 ай бұрын

When was the last time you had a wash? 🛀🏻

@theorapp874

10 ай бұрын

@@charliezobel511 5 weeks ago

@charliezobel511

10 ай бұрын

@@theorapp874 congratulations that makes you the cleanest and most hygienic Rayo fan out there because the rest of ya ain’t had a wash since last year

Atléti fan from outside Spain. I had the privilege to watch some games in the stadium ans I can guarantee you, the athmosfere is amazing❤️🤍

@cristianfuentes2597

11 ай бұрын

Atleti fan from Canada that's on my bucket list

@austinashworth6413

6 ай бұрын

I want to go so bad man

Where are your sources?

Word

Do celtic vs rangers

Is the Kings club I always Support in Life Hala ! Madrid ! The greatest of all time.

Atlético

Because they're from the same city. Maybe spiced up a bit more since they both high achievers at the top of the league

I don’t watch football that often, but I’m more inclined with Real Madrid, as most of my family is

Rayo Vallecano and Celta for me, baby! If you ever want to go to a game in Spain, sure, hit me up.

Well when are different teams from the same city in sports never not rivals?

@Yasinvanpersie

9 ай бұрын

London has about 30 clubs. You wouldn't exactly say Arsenal & Leyton Orient are rivals just because they play in the same city

@austinashworth6413

6 ай бұрын

@@Yasinvanpersie London is kind of an exception in that way due to the absolutely massive population.

@Yasinvanpersie

6 ай бұрын

@@austinashworth6413 correct but the original comment suggested clubs in the same city are automatically rivals

I am a supporter of the best club in the world, Real Madrid.

I followed Spanish scene in past now sadly real ultras are not allowed on stadiums so it's plastic atmosphere. But Athletic has better atmosphere now , Real to much turist fans . Against Modern Footbal!

AÚPA ATLETI!!!! I love atletico Madrid! El club de corazón!

Where is history?

Freedom Vs Crown Hmmm

@deiniolbythynnwr926

11 ай бұрын

Freedom is an illusion.

@typiclyjohny5114

9 ай бұрын

@@deiniolbythynnwr926 Freedom itself is not an ilussion but what many see as Freedom is, they get this idea of freedom sold to them by those who are taking it from them

Atleti used to be Franco’s team. And they were also not persecuted under Franco, yet they did not get the preferential treatment like Real.

Aúpa Atleti

a spanner

Hala Madrid!

AUPA ATLETIIIIIIIII

I like Atletico but we need to move on from "Cholismo". It's time to think in something bigger.

As Real Madrid fan I respect atlaty because they are fighters

@austinashworth6413

6 ай бұрын

That’s what made me like them. Every player on the team has to be able to defend

@OnlyInMelsele

2 ай бұрын

How do you spell atleti so wrong?

Barça

❤❤ Atletico Madrid 🙂

Real - Castilla, Atletico - Madrid, Rayo - Vellecas!

Visca barca, please more football videos.

Isn't that Alfonso the xiii?

You should do a video for the Yugoslav rivalries, there were a lot back then, and now as seperate nations a few have survived( Hajduk-Dinamo, Partizan-Zvezda)

@croatianwarmaster7872

9 ай бұрын

Hajduk is older than yuga. 1911. 🇭🇷

@deadset15-hrvavik17

9 ай бұрын

@@croatianwarmaster7872 Stariji je jedino Krist

how the f*ck real madrid has 40 copa del rey

I am on the side of the underdog, always. So, Athletico is my choice.

@DarthPepis

11 ай бұрын

well you sould by a Rayo Vallecano fan then. Cuz its clearly the most "underdog" of Madrid football teams

@austinashworth6413

6 ай бұрын

I just like all of their players personally. When I found out about the working class hard working roots it made me enjoy them more (: I like a team that can be a brick wall

Madridista qui no bote.

This is 'rivalry' on paper. In reality Real Madrid is way ahead Athletico. Only Barça can pose competition for Real Madrid

Real Madrid took on Alfredo di Stefano from Argentina.

@cristianfuentes2597

11 ай бұрын

Was playing in Colombia 🇨🇴 at the time ⏲️

Atlético de Madrid not Athletico de Madrid.

Bernabéu was so based, we should go back to his ways. Also, you just straight up lied about the non-white Atlético team performing better than the fully white Real Madrid team. During the 70s Real Madrid won the league 5 times (6 if you count the 79/80 season) while Atlético won the league 3 times. Real Madrid won the Copa del Rey 3 times (4 times if you count the 79/80 season) while Atlético only won it 2 times. So you're just lying, the lesson is actually that you SHOULD have a fully white team lol. Also, correction, we have not won the Copa del Rey 40 times, we've only won it 20 times. But we have been in the final 40 times.

Visca al Barça! otherwise, Rayo Vallecano in Madrid : republican, anti-fascist, NGO founders supporters. One can only love the soul of this team.

"Expat Basques"!? Que no se note el independentismo jajaja.

HALA MADRID Y NADA MAS

mhdp

your history is wrong back then player were not paid. and real Madrid was found by Catalan professors and of high school students. that's why Madrid nick name is the institutions . atlatico madrid was the rich and popular team in Madrid until . Santiago took the team by the why he is Catalan to

Fun fact Vellacono fans campaigned to not allow a player to play for alleged fascist leanings

Always been an Atletico fan because their crest looks the most American lol. This video confirms my suspicion that real madrid is evil and Atletico is the club of freedom! Haha jk but kinda not really.

Politics and football nothing new ,, but on Balkan football =war 13.5. 90 Dinamo Zagreb vs red star After rs ultras started to demolish stadium whit support of communist police ,, Dinamo ultras stormed the pitch and fight vs communist police , even Dinamo players fight vs police..... offcorse match never been played police and army ( which had turn on tanks engines ) escort rs ultras back to serbia , and Dinamo ultras (Bad Blue Boys) rest of the night fight Vs ex yugoslavia regime police ( lot of gun shots injury's , burn cops ...) So for all ultras in Croatia 13.5.90 is official strat of War for independence from communist big serbian yugoslavia.

first

Wow they called the other team the Indian's because they hired player's who were not white and the other teams fan's embraced the nickname. If this was a story about an American sports team I can only imagine what people from Europe would say in the comments.

Forca Barca ❤

¡Hala Madrid! y nada más

PIN ME 2ND

As if we needed more reason to view Real Madrid as a trash team with a putrid history

AUPA ATLETI

¡Hala Madrid! F** Athletic.

Well, to be honest, Real Madrid fans from Madrid are mostly nice people, but those who are fans of it from the rest of Spain, who have no fucking business being fans of a team from the capital and should instead support their regional teams, are in many cases absolutely bonkers and terrible people. Sadly, during the francoist era, the idea that RM was "the representative team of Spain" got so spread that too many people believed it, and now we have what we have. They would not have got their first 6 European Cups if not because Franco would mainline funds from taxes into the team to fulfill his dream of a team uniting Spain (hey, dude, you had, AND HAVE the Spanish national team for that, you know??? A team that takes part in international competitions and which DOES REPRESENT all Spaniards) into one fandom. RM would be a mostly irrelevant team if not for that. The same could be said about FC Barcelona, tbh, because many people, some from outside Catalonia, but mostly from inside Catalonia but not Barcelona, are ardent fans of it for POLITICAL reasons and have been for generations, as the team that represented the struggle against Franco. Both teams developed into the strongest in Spain and that has had a negative effect in the league overall. Imagine a league in which both Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia and Bilbao had like 3 or 4 teams EACH in the highest tier, like you get in other nations. Sadly, Madrid and Barcelona overshadow any other competitors. It's a miracle that Atletico de Madrid and Espanyol have any degree of relevance.

Unless you support a spanish team, Real Madrid is most peoples favoured team on the big stage. There is something special about winning the greatest trophies simple because you are a winner and not necessarily better than the opposition.

Tries to make a documentary. Can’t even spell the name right.

Real madrid

Up the right wing Real Madrid!

Can you stop insertign the absurd monolitic right/left wing divide to everything? its reductive and an extremely disingenuous way to reccontextualize history.

@towelzz9873

11 ай бұрын

Your comment makes no sense. Politics/national pride is almost directly tied to Football in various European countries (and definitely in South American countries). Hilbert isn’t randomly injecting a political divide into this history - it’s a literal fact that these clubs had political ideologies associated with them

@ffffff52

11 ай бұрын

@@towelzz9873 He called Franco's era Real Madrid "right wing " you know... the team that got the name from Royalty and was victim of numerous prosecutions and exiles from the "right-wing" dictator. Right/Left politics arent universally applicable since outside of the US things are hardly bi-partisan and more complex than a left/right or white/black divide. Your comment makes no sense, The political ideologies that better fit both teams are Royalist vs Nationalist, not the stupidly reductive "Right & Left"

Real didn't win the Copa del Rey 40 times wtf. The most successful club of that competition is FC Barcelona who won it 31 times, Real only managed to take the trophy home 20 times