Love the Piviots. Been skiing Look for 30+ years.

@simonorr594

2 күн бұрын

Another Simon doing the same

7:15 Basically Pivots should feel rather smooth, due to the amount of elastic travel, and more friendly in a rougher terrain. Also some people say that the drill pattern for mounting the binding is quite tight, so the binding allows ski to flex more naturally. Also, too little elastic travel and you can have unexpected binding releases in some situations. I personally had one incident in the spring slush this year, when my Salomon Shifts were set with slightly too low DIN, and I left one ski into a slush bump due to heel release. For example same low DIN on a Marker Griffon would have been just fine.

Thanks for your reply Elliott ~ I did go with the Meier Wranglers. Should receive them in Sept or Oct - cool that they're making them to order. Again, thanks so much and I made sure to let them know that you sent me.

Funny you mention picking up an 88 or 92 width ski, watching your channel awhile now has caused me to consider this. I do enjoy carving and a Ti88 sounds like a good idea if we're stuck w/a wk of bulletproof. I did have a pair of 21/22 Head Kore 93s but lost 1 in the woods in deep powder; I am going to hunt for it soon!

FWIW, Cinco De Mayo was a huge spring dump in the Sierra this spring. Deep ( like 3 ft to 6 ft in the drifts ) heavy snow, I was on 120mm Voile V8's. Not sure any ski would not have struggled on that day.

So Look pivots have more elastic travel than any other binding. They also have more contact points between the boot and binding. Finally they also have a shorter mounting points related to the distance between where the front and rear portion of the binding is physical attached to the ski. This provides a different flex pattern compared to other bindings.

Hey I never expected my question to make it into one of the videos! Thanks a ton man for taking the time to respond and give your insights into the matter. It helps a ton. I ended up going with a pair of Tyrollia Attack 14's. I have the 11's on my Skiblades but also have a pair of Pivot 15's on my skis from last year. I bought a pair of new Mirus Cors on sale and had been dancing around if I should get Pivots or Attacks for them and came to the conclusion that with my current skill set the money spent on the Pivots just wouldn't be justified so I snagged the Attacks for 200$. Hopefully I made the right choice. I guess we will find out this season! Thanks again Elliott!

ALRIIIIGHT! I have to admit i like that opening to your videos.

Hey Elliot, viewer from Australia here, very much enjoying the content and jealous of you yanks having access to so many mountains and so close to your homes. Question: have you ever looked at boot liner sleeves ( for example found at Patriot premium ski footbeds ) or any other boot additives to help with comfort/performance?

Not a skier but I subscribed 😊

Look Pivots- park and free-ride guys love them for less pre-releases and better ski feel but expensive. Tyrolia Protectors- safest for your knees, smooth ride, expensive, high stand height and a bit heavy. Marker Griffon- industry standard, solid connection to the ski but hard to get into especially in deep snow due to the one piece heel mechanism. Atomic Strive and variants- 2nd best connection to ski, 2nd best elastic travel, 2nd lowest stand height. Tyrolia Attack- cheap, light, easy to get into, lowest stand height but a bit less precise ski feel. All good options really. My choice would be Protectors for piste applications, Pivots in the park, and Strive for all-mountain. Feel free to add your thoughts!

Pivot 14’s and below aren’t all metal, just an FYI. You’ll see when you try em out when you pre release in a hairy situation and if you get back to a better-balanced position, you’ll snap back into the binding, it’s a very odd feeling. Also, the new Pivots are releasing later this year. Shops have begun posting pics on IG.

Thanks Elliot! I think you've convinced me the QST 106 or the Rossi Sender 110, I've noted how much you LOVE QST 106 and I do like that it's Sendy. I'm a Tahoe skier SugarBowl & Palisades are my home mtns. The Revolt 104's a lot of fun very playful w/the twin tips yet I could straight line powder in them, until +3ft anyways! I have a young friend who rips them in corn snow, I love them in the mashed pot, it's pretty much a ripper ski except in anything hard. It's my 53rd bday today thanks for the shout out!

Ive had the look 12 binding from 2010, they lasted really long with good performance. They broke after I was training for nose butters, the metal base plate broke from metal fatigue. So they lasted 13 years or around 150 ski days. Ive bought the look pivot 15 last year and they feel good. Have not had any real crashes to test them out tho, but build quality seems good. I regret getting the colorful almost pride looking ones, hard to match with rest of ski gear, so I would just go for gold or black ones.

Atomic strives are a MUCH more affordable and stylish pair of bindings. They also have a very close amount of elastic travel that the pivots are known for.

@joshuagravel2565

2 күн бұрын

I have a set of Pivot 15's, and a set of shift 13's, which is what the strives are based on, and the travel before release is far greater on the Pivots. A few times last year I was able feel the Pivots start to travel, and react in time to pull myself out of trouble where the Shifts would have released.

Nice summary of the topic. Most of us are probably fine on almost any binding on the market. Slight nod to pivots since I have not ever had to adjust the DIN due to prerelease like I have with other bindings, but there's a lot of factors at play there so who knows. fyi- bobleisure used to have deals on pivots, might still occasionally. Mine showed up dinged but were "only" 250

I would like to see you demo some Dynastar. All are made in France. And of course Kastle!

Got two sets, new in the box. Rossi FKS 18s.

@snowdevil7727

2 күн бұрын

Pivots have the greatest amount of elasticity, so they don’t pre-release like other models. Setting the forward pressure is an art and you do it by feel. Make sure the shop knows how to mount them.

Elliott, the Look Pivots have 10mm of adjustment. Next year the V2.0 will allow 20mm of adjustment.

You missed the Pivots main feature. You can twist your foot out. It separated lateral forces from twisting forces. Check out the old school MRR Marker explodamat. Same thing. Best binding ever ng ever

Tune shop tech here: Get pivots, they will outlast your skis they are the best on the market

I love the pivots and SPX. im a wanna be free ride skier doing spin tricks in most conditions at fast speeds. Pivots 15/18s have veritcal toe release aswell. I have had pivot 15s outlive the skis they are on. i ski look spxs aswell on my beater park skis and i have some griffons on my wildcat 108s. if you get a powday to try some revolts get some 114s to try. my favorite snowbird/alta ski.

I’m sure mine is not a popular opinion but I don’t see the plus side of the look pivot bindings. There is nothing about a normal binding that does not allow the lower leg to “pivot” at any pivot point necessary and not just the Look pivots “one” pivot point. I see it as a constriction. Also, similar to other bindings, it does not allow the heel to eject straight sideways, except that pivot arm is to the side of the boot blocking it worse than a normal binding in an attempt to eject sideways.

@LL-camerawork

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Agree. Plus it's very hard to step back in because the heel piece goes in all directions

As a certified binding mechanic I always recommend high quality products from all the manufacturers that being said those made of alloy metals last the longest for those high end skiers that put them through hell and the recreational skiers that have 30 to 40 skier days per year buy junk buy twice 🇨🇦

@KBump

Күн бұрын

As a certified binding mechanic, what's your thoughts on the Attack series? Ive tried both them and the Pivots and I would say I am beginner-intermediate skier so I don't think I have the skill set to get out of the Pivots what they offer. Would love your thoughts.

@cadamcyk

Күн бұрын

As a binding mechanic - hoping maybe you can answer this question. Getting a ski thats a 94width. The binding I'm looking at Look SPX12 - only has a 90mm available - thoughts on trying to put the 90mm binding onto a 94 width ski? Or should I settle for the 100mm version of binding. I'd really appreciate your response. Thanks.

@deanrigg8929

Күн бұрын

Spx ‘s come in binding widths up to 120 mm and I have installed attacks on my son’s Kore 99’s and he loves them

@cadamcyk

Күн бұрын

@@deanrigg8929right - the color I want however is only in 90. Would / could you put a 90mm binding on the 94 width ski ? I have the attack 14 on another pair of skis but wanted to try the Looks.

@deanrigg8929

Күн бұрын

Have put 90mm brakes on 92 mm underfoot width skies that’s pretty much the max !

The Wrangler doesn't have any metal in it, surprised it holds up as well as the Maverick.. Did you ski it in any firm conditions?

Elasticity is the key with the pivot Look. More elastic travel gives the binding better shock absorbing capability and boot to binding retention. The heel has great upward travel as does the toe, The toe is old Geze technology with a universal type joint which allows the most travel in all direction including up. So Din for Din Look is a much safer choice than brand x. The best part is the short mount pattern from toe to heel allowing a more natural flex counter flex of the ski. In other words less of the ski is stiffened by the long binding placement of conventional step ins. The screws on a pivot heel are under the heel not behind it, Plus edge to edge it has superior transfer due to the number of boot to binding contact points at especially the heel. So it is safer while giving outstanding turn initiation. Plus it is light weight. There is always that esoteric logo consciousness in skiing equipment choice. What do I want to be seen on? The latest fad, hip looking thing? Or the best performing given my personal criteria? With skis they are all flat on the bottom and turned up at the end. Constructions vary but not by much. Geometry and sidewall stiffness give the ski most of its personality then flex. You can feel differences in skis. Not so much bindings. But on paper, by design and in the real world use by skiers who really get after it there is only one choice. Look pivot.