It would be so great to have a 3d printer, that also prints and cuts out cardboard, so you could buy games digitally and the thingy would print them for you. There are so many expansions or versions of games that are not being sold anymore here in Germany, because a reprint would never sell out. I mean besides Monopoly. Because of some strange reason there are always more copys of Monopoly than people in any given German house

I can't believe how low key this channel is. Constantly consistent, really well put together videos. Not to mention hilarious content. Definitely gonna hit a million subscribers at some point. It has to.

Might just be another generic comment; but I love this channel

@sergiojuan217

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a generic comment. A necessary one though 👌

Do I really need another expensive hobby that requires more people to enjoy? Of course I do.

@quesoblanco444

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget, there is also the bonus that they take up lots of shelf space!

@xshadowscreamx

3 жыл бұрын

The struggle

I got into it when I started going to a local games meetup weekly. The guy that runs it backs a lot of kickstarters and has over 600 games whether they're good or not. I am really selective with my games, due to money and the space they take up. So if I play one at the meetup and love it, I'll have it in my mind to get it. But over the course of two years playing, I've only bought 4 games with another 2 in my head that are too big right now. So I'd suggest playing them first and being selective rather than hoarding, especially putting consideration into who you're likely to play with - hardcore gamers, family, semi-interested friends etc.

Earlier this year after much time spent on mental arthmetics I decided to buy Twilight Imperium 4th edition. Few days after that lockdown started where I live. Between multiple lockdowns, work, I was able to play it exactly once. I am passing it each day sitting there on the shelf, and I am dying inside a bit each day...

@avisian8063

3 жыл бұрын

Same man... Except I haven't been able to get it to the table. Eating at me

@EightThreeEight

2 жыл бұрын

Ouch.

Money Isn't Everything, It's The Only Thing

Really interesting video! Keep up the good work!

Phenomenal content. Good stuff, subscribed

I was on the fence for months about buying Fury of Dracula (3rd ed.), and in the meantime I watched all the reviews, how-tos and sessions on YT and when I finally decided to buy the game I realized it was out of stock and out of print everywhere and the price on the second hand market had sky rocketed. I wrote to the publisher, I wrote to the company owning the IP, I wrote to stores all over Europe and even to BG cafes until I found a SH copy in excellent condition at the original price, delivered by a truck driver in a shady spot near a warehouse. The search took months, but it was actually the best part and gave me great enjoyment. I played the game only once, I liked it, but it didn't feel as good as the search for a rare item.

Your tag line during the money bit "come roll with me" should be the name of this question segment.

its interesting the way manufacture normally happens, i wonder if there is a "dedicated" board game factory out there that makes plastic dice cards manuals and board in the same building if not i wonder why not? Another Great video Guys! Stay Hexy!

Seriously, it's only a matter of time until I only watch Wrestletalk and WT affiliated channels like Phenoma-nerds, cause you all keep knocking it out of the park.

I did not know board games have evolved so much till recently when i accedently stumbled upon a board game reviewer video on youtube. It piqued my interest and i tried them and loved the experience. Now im trying to turn my group of video gamers into board gamers which is quite a difficult task so far.

I bought a Localised monopoly that i intend to never play. It was put together by a local hospice charity . I only bought it to support that charity

Interesting video! Such a difficult task pricing games. We are indie designers and we try to keep this fair for buyers but we don't have the buying power of the big companies. Once you add shipping (which has quadrupled since covid), local postage, storage, production, tax and a profit? it soon adds up to the RRP. We don't yet have distributors (we would like to) but we just don't have the margins so we sell direct to shops, which seems to work.

Holy crap, I'm pretty sure I've played every one of those games at 6:38. I'm OLD. :D Well done, new sub. :)

Thank you doing this subject! Board game pricing can seem crazy if you are not prepared for it. Personally I found board game sims a great way to tell if you enjoy a game, Table Top Simulator exposed me to all sorts of games I love that I might not have heard about otherwise, but there are more than a few to check out.

@NoRollsBarred

3 жыл бұрын

LAURIE: This is a really good shout too - doesn't work for everything in my experience, but with a bit of perseverance you can get a really good idea of how things play

The algorithm sent me here after watching a guy open a $900 pack of football cards. Board games are not expensive.

I say "For Science" before I make a purchase. This way if I dont like the game I dont feel so bad. On the other hand, if I do like the game, then the experiment was a success. Either way, my conscience is clear. 😁

@NoRollsBarred

3 жыл бұрын

LAURIE: Genius!

Thanks great info!

I hear you with expensive games can be; my roommate poured in several hundred if not thousand dollars into our collection, especially getting all of the expansions for Elder Sign. I was lucky to be able to snag a used but complete copy of the Doom 2003 board game and its expansion for $40, considering how expensive either can go on ebay, nowadays.

Hey! New suscriber here. Thanks for your amazing content! You should make a video about how does a game designer works.

The end bit is exactly how I feel about board games. They are only expensive if you keep buying and buying: game are replayable and multiplayer. It comes out really cheap over time.

But, will Laurie end up buying all the expansions to Agricola and playing on stream? That is the true question.

@NoRollsBarred

3 жыл бұрын

LAURIE: Please don't make me!

Yes! Finally! A video by El Fakeador!!

What should a new board gamer buy? Membership in a board game club with regular board game evenings.

16:34 THIS IS SO TRUE

I am probably in denial (comes with the hobby) but when you compare the cost of some games to how much enjoyment value they bring, they do not look that expensive anymore. The thing is you NEED to play a game X times to get the cost worth. Personally I only buy games when I know I will keep them. Once in my collection, there is no way out. I don't trade nor sell, so my collection is very small and specific to me. My main issue with the hobby is that we seem to have reach (in Comics terms) the 90s. We are past the Golden and Silver Age. We are now in an age of overproduction and exessiveness that I am not so fond of. Some games are just TOO much and just like in the 90s Comics where everything was full of pockets, big guns, big shoulder pads... OMG the shoulder pads... Some games are just too much lately (Kickstarter exclusives I am looking at you!)

This was very good.

Whoa 5:34 was getting big Vince Russo vibes from that guy, bro.

I often hear that cost comparison for cinema. But it's actually not true. If me and 3 friends go to the cinema it might cost me 12 quid, but the full cost is 48 quid. If the game gets 2 hours worth of play then it's the same value proposition. Sure I'm footing the entire cost, and maybe I can't always afford to do that, but I ask myself... If I was gonna foot the cost for my friends to have an entertaining night would I rather buy 4 cinema tickets or a game? The game has resell value. Can be replayed. Games really aren't expensive... Well, most aren't. On an entirely unrelated note, anyone wanna play twilight imperium 4 with me? Bought it at start of lockdown... It's basically burning a hole in my shelf.

wtf?! i LOVE HP Lovecraft now!

As someone who has now spent far too much money on Too Many Bones, I can attest the fact that board gaming is a bloody expensive hobby at times.

I understand that producing a game is expensive and requires a lot of effort as well as time, but you have to understand, however, that there has to be a limit and you cannot always raise the price by exploiting the fact that it is a passion for many. As a 3d printer owner I often wonder how some prices are so high, because printing miniatures on an amateur level is cheap, then think on an industrial level! The main problem is the whole chain of production and how the money is unfairly redistributed. In the end, the price is so much higher than the cost of production because so much money goes into the pockets of the producer, while the creator and artists (who play the most important role) pocket the least, which I think is shameful! In my opinion, if 3d printers would further lower their cost of purchase and use and therefore be more entrenched in people's homes, the board game/wargame market will have to be completely overhauled, also because I personally would be willing to pay 40 dollars less for a game in exchange for having only the absolutely necessary pieces and not having the most expensive miniatures already printed, but the Stl file so print it myself

Why is Laurie using American money though? 🤔

@NoRollsBarred

3 жыл бұрын

LAURIE: Think how much UK cash it would take to have a wad like that? Also, I haven't really been using cash this year because most places won't take it during Covid, but I had some dollars laying around the house

@dripsoup6639

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoRollsBarred Haha perfectly fair. Besides, America is basically the poster child of capitalism, so it really does fit.

I would think 3D printing would have reduced the cost of gaming pieces.

They can cut costs by stop making overly sized boxes for their game.

Actually speaking about the expense begins at 6.35

Just spent 125 on games to provide the good time. I’m caught

Laurie you are in the uk. Why are you using US dollars??

@Mazz3D

3 жыл бұрын

because American money is rather universal in recognition and is obviously more evil than the £

@damianprice8422

3 жыл бұрын

It actually annoys me when uk channels americanize (is that the word to use?) When it comes to money. They also have a video on the channel called 'the best board games for $10. Do they do it because they think American viewers will not watch it if they used pounds instead? And why not stop there. Why not use an American accent and say alu-min-um. Is it really that bad to be a UK KZread channel?

@NoRollsBarred

3 жыл бұрын

LAURIE: I haven't really used any UK cash this year, because of Covid everywhere has moved to contactless, so I didn't fancy getting £25 out for a joke and just happened to have $5 from when I went to the US.

Buonocore my man, don't be telling your customers to buy less. 🤣

"Everyone likes money, that's why they call it money"

Laurie, do live in the states or do you keep American cash for a prop?

@ryan_alexander

3 жыл бұрын

It's really not that hard to get American money.

@PatrickPaul1203

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryan_alexander true but it’s not very useful outside of America. Can’t take it down to the vending machine in London and get a soda for example, so which still leaves me with my question, does he keep American money to use as a prop or live in America

@Mazz3D

3 жыл бұрын

yeah definitely a prop. these guys and gals are based in London.

@NoRollsBarred

3 жыл бұрын

LAURIE: It's just left over from a visit! Thought it would be an easier prop than getting £25 out from the bank, we don't have £1 bills so it gets a bit pricey for a throwaway gag (I know I get to keep the money, but still)

How easy is it to get American dollars in the North of England? Is American money more emblematic of the concept of money in general?

@NoRollsBarred

2 жыл бұрын

LAURIE: It's honestly the only cash I had lying around

*Laughs in Australian*

What's a quid!?

Short answer: because capitalism

PS. u said ZATU wrong...lol nick will not be pleased lol