At least you should do a transfer speed test.

As long as the integrated circuit is Intel certified. It will have the exact same capability. Thunderbolt is a standard, so Apple hasn't added some kind of magic dust that makes theirs better. Cable matters makes an active cable for 60 bucks. With just as high build quality, Just as long, and with the exact same capability

Thanks for the review. Did I hear you say at 7:50 that the Thunderbolt 4 Pro cable is not backwards compatible? For example, with my Thunderbolt 4 ports on my Mac Studio, if I want to connect to an external sound interface that is Thunderbolt 3, would it be ok to use a Thunderbolt 3 cable, or would it better to invest in a Thunderbolt 4 cable? (would the Thunderbolt 4 cable even work in this scenario?). Many thanks for your advice!

@ItsCaputo

11 ай бұрын

Hey there! I replayed the clip, and I'm referring to optical Thunderbolt 3 cables in that segment. TL;DR - yes, you can use a Thunderbolt 3 cable, and there should be no impact on performance. To answer your question, you could use a Thunderbolt 4 cable, but there's no benefit from doing so since the physical interface on your audio endpoint doesn't support Thunderbolt 4, meaning that your Mac will optimize for the least common denominator, which is your audio interface. In an ideal scenario, you would get the best performance when all three links in the Thunderbolt chain (Your Mac, the physical cable, and your audio interface) are Thunderbolt 4 capable. That said, I haven't seen Thunderbolt 4 audio interfaces yet. I believe that's because there's no discernable difference between Thunderbolt 3 and Thunderbolt 4 when it comes to latency. In comparison, Thunderbolt is about ~2.5x faster than USB regarding latency. Hope this helps! BTW, what kind of music do you make?

Nice video! Any news on this in the meantime? Any relevant 3rd party TB cables >=1,80m out there? Maybe Maxonar?

@ItsCaputo

Жыл бұрын

A few manufacturers have released a 1.8m Thunderbolt 4 cable, including Maxonar, but I haven't had the opportunity to test them against Apple's Thunderbolt 4 Pro cable.

New to the channel and fellow KZreadr, I’ve considered the TB4 from Apple just haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

It’s funny that a lot of the side accessories end up actually being pretty good deals

Awesome insights, thank you. Did you get a chance to test with windows 10/11?

@ItsCaputo

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately my windows machine from work doesn't narrowly support Thunderbolt per the spec, and it's hit or miss with what accessories should work as intended.

Are apple thunderbolt 3 cables going to be compatible/useful for thunderbolt 4 ports?

@ItsCaputo

Жыл бұрын

Apple-branded Thunderbolt cables are certified for Thunderbolt 4 and are also compatible with Thunderbolt 3 devices.

@pritam_kaushik

Жыл бұрын

@@ItsCaputo thanks for responding but my question is actually the revers of what u answered 😅. If we are having thunderbolt 3 apple cable, will it work with thunderbolt 4 ports, specifically coz the speed is still same as 40gbps!

@UanTao

4 ай бұрын

@@pritam_kaushik Data and power transfer speed will work to the limit of your Thunderbolt 3 cable

Everything is plug to my computer with 1 tb4 cables (non Apple computer). It's very clean and sick, but I always had issue when gaming, my screen did go black for ~2sec every ~15min, which was really annoying for me. I tried many many tb4 or tb3 cable (my computer only support tb3) same result every time. Than the Apple tb4 goes out and I'm like "Apple usually make solid stuff, sure its expensive, but let's try, worst case scenario I return the cable". Well best decision ever, not a single drop with the 3m cable, very happy of this cable.

Can you charge your I phone 15 Pro max faster with this cable ? Bc the cable in the box is USB-C 2.0.

@ItsCaputo

9 ай бұрын

Yes this cable is backwards compatible with the iPhone 15 Pro

@BenJ.G

8 ай бұрын

No, this will not charge your iPhone faster. USB 2.0 refers to the data transfer speed, not charging.

I got the Soopii cable of the same quality for $10.

@bryangamez8848

7 ай бұрын

I got the Soopii 240w (with digital wattage gauge reader) thunderbolt 4 cable for $16. I’d love to see a comparison

@ZhuJo99

4 ай бұрын

@@bryangamez8848 3 m cable? Because thunderbolt 4 requries active cables for such length and that is why it's so expensive. Does that cable support PCIe tunelling and all the functions of Thunderbolt or is it just a passive USB 4 cable? There is huge difference between those!

Some thunderbolt 3 cable have usb 2.0 speed in non thunderbolt item

@ItsCaputo

2 жыл бұрын

Can you clarify?

10 minutes talking about a wire 😂😂😂😂 like it

Checking today the 3m Thunderbolt 4 cable is 129.00. Not too shabby!

@ItsCaputo

Жыл бұрын

Weird, it still shows $159 for me. Buy 2!

No it's not. I have the two different versions of the Apple Thunderbolt cable (short and longer connectors) in 1 and 1.8 meter. My Acasis TB cables do exactly the same for way less money.

5.9 and 9.9 feet? 🤔

I thought the video was playing at 1.5 speed...😄

The OWC TB4 cable was $24 this am! I trust them.

@ItsCaputo

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good deal on a smaller cable. It’s too bad that OWC doesn’t offer a 3m cable like the one in the video because it would almost certainly be cheaper.

@jaegervand2112

Жыл бұрын

The OWC TB4 cables sits loose and disconnect more easily compared to apple cables.

@martin_wood

Жыл бұрын

@@jaegervand2112 interesting. Very important feature for pro work

Yeah now we have plenty of thunderbolt4 cables that are backward compatible and are cheaper now

guaranteed the cable costs $10 dollars to produce…Tim Cook “thinks different” Question: are you paid by Apple for these pieces?

@ItsCaputo

2 жыл бұрын

If I was, I would have negotiated a Mac Pro as part of my signing bonus. Needless to say, I don't have one. 😉

Wait. I thought bits were bits. So Hi quality HDMI and audiophile interconnects are not worth it either.

@ItsCaputo

Жыл бұрын

The conventional wisdom would agree with your statement; however, as computers' minimization further accelerates, we need to examine the current thinking to see if it passes the litmus test.

@RufusKSala

Жыл бұрын

The issue here is high speed digital. At these speeds, these cables are actually very much a question of engineering high performance analog signaling, it’s just that they are ultimately transmitting bits instead of audio waveforms. But the pesky real world physics of copper as a transmission medium dominate.

1 year later, can buy same spec for $30. Meanwhile this same cable is still as expensive. Any thoughts on this?

@ItsCaputo

11 ай бұрын

I did a quick search on Amazon and the cables I found at that price point are either USB4 or TB3 passive cables. Can you share a couple links so I can check em out?

@nexus99

11 ай бұрын

try using those cheap cables for eGPU and it'll make sense

lol i got this. the $20 amazon worked exactly the same. returned the apple cable

@ItsCaputo

Жыл бұрын

Link please

🤔 apple cables high quality , is like saying , a piece of string and two coffee cups make the best quality phone .

its a bad video that tells you nothing about the performance.

When has an Apple product EVER not been way overpriced? I find it very difficult to believe you couldn't get a cable just as good as this for half the price. I mean, WHAT'S IN IT to justify the cost? Decent quality wire and some simple electronics? This review would've been way better if he also tested other brands. Just saying "buy Apple" is no help to anyone except Apple.

@darrenschoensee8005

2 жыл бұрын

there's actually a lot to justify for the cost of this product. as he said, apple is currently the only manufacturer of 3m active Thunderbolt 4 cables, despite the TB4 spec already being released 2 years ago, giving plenty of other manufacturers to give their shot at creating this cable length. There is some extremely advanced technology in these connectors that only Apple has that allows for this cable length for those who need it, and when you factor in its ability to work well with products seemlessly without small issues, as I've witnessed with other third party TB4 2m cables, is really what you're paying for. I picked one of these things up today and it's worth it no doubt and I'm not even an apple fan boy.

@darrenschoensee8005

2 жыл бұрын

the scenario with simply "buying apple" products has way more to do with the consumer's desire to pay for the tight integration that Apple provides with their products. If that is what you want then you have to bite the bullet. Third party manufacturers are unable to create integration at the hardware/software level that apple is able to themselves, hence the overpriced trend

@ItsCaputo

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jeff, thanks for the feedback, and I appreciate the healthy discussion. I essentially laid out several reasons you shouldn't purchase the cable (cost, material quality, length, engineering) and one collective reason you should. High-quality cables (including all Thunderbolt cables with the logo) are certified by an independent testing body for adherence to that spec so I didn't find it a value add to the video. It's kinda like running my own crash test ratings on a car when there are government agencies doing the hard work. Thanks for commenting!

@Rashimotosan

2 жыл бұрын

@@darrenschoensee8005 so because it's one more meter it's worth this ridiculous price tag? Lol

@rickyay26

Жыл бұрын

You clearly didn’t watch the entire video. There’s a reason why these apple cables cost more, they “active” cables. Which means it can drive high bandwidth through long distances all the while keep it consistent.

Give me a break! Apple is over charging as usual.

@ItsCaputo

2 жыл бұрын

Let me know when you find a cheaper 3m active Thunderbolt 4 cable. I’ll wait right here.

@darrenschoensee8005

2 жыл бұрын

@@ItsCaputo facts

@Fred_the_Head

7 ай бұрын

You need to compare prices for similar cables sold by Caldigit, CableMatters, Belkin, Anker, Pluggable, etc.