I'm actually mad now that I forgot Behemoths were Monster Hunter references. It was like their whole design and I somehow missed it lol

@kab43

Жыл бұрын

speaking of references, Jellycat is actually a dragon quest reference

@moopymeebloopy456

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@amauryantoine418

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its their only redeeming factor

@zaion8917

Жыл бұрын

The chickful a behemoth is based on what monster though?

@electrify4103

Жыл бұрын

i wondered why the red behemoth bird looked like Yian-Garuga, i just thought they had the same inspiration

Aliens did have a signature ability - they had abilities! It's easy to forget that enemies with procs were not always a thing, and while nowadays all traits have them, the aliens were the frontrunners.

@racket804

Жыл бұрын

aliens also give very little money, and are affected bt the ITF gems

@Blaze_B.C.

Жыл бұрын

@@racket804 give very little money? What about mistress celebdoodle? Ursamajor? Cyberhorn? Mawth? I.M. Face? Galactic overseer Nyandam? Bun bun symbiote?

@racket804

Жыл бұрын

@@Blaze_B.C. face, moth bun bun are also floating, so they give big money. Big units like nyandam, horn, and bear always give you good money, but the alien versions give even less.

@Blaze_B.C.

Жыл бұрын

@@racket804 I wouldn’t say that’s very little money though. That seems like plenty of money.

@metal_pipe9764

Жыл бұрын

They also have the teleport thing

Extremely good and complete analysis, very very well done. It's insane how badly behemoths were implemented and basically singlehandedly begun the trend of enemies with obscene amount of health for no good reason and extremely monotonous gameplay. When people ask help in behemoth stages, you could suggest using 5 slots of research combo (or 3 slots for research and 2 for attack), 1 or 2 meatshield, cancan, maglev, and courier, and it would unironically work 90% of the time. Sleep as hell. Also I would say I disagree on 2 things, 1 being behemoth visual design and 2 being zombie reception. Definitely personal but I genuinely really like Behemoth designs as they reflect Monster Hunter creatures, and imo they did a great job replicating these monsters into battle cats style. Darkjo and Ahirujo are similar because they're based off of monsters of the same family, Yian Garuga and Yian Kutku, while Magamojoe is a bit different since its based off Kuluyaku. And regards of Zombies, I don't think they're necessarily badly received by the community. Outbreaks was badly implemented but I don't think that really makes people not like the trait. From my experience, people disliked zombie simply because it shakes the meta massively due to burrow destroying a lot of uber spammers. Which, in my opinion, is a good thing. Zombie is one of my favorite trait due to how insanely different they play, but unfortunately they made Holy Blast and then its downhill from there... but thats a different story. Overall, extremely well written and well edited video. I think some of the things you talk about here are too off-topic and could be made more concise or even unnecessary to be in the video, but otherwise it's a very good analysis!

@turt1100

Жыл бұрын

Probably the worst thing about behemoths for me is how they made units that specifically counter the behemoths - luza obliterates magamojoe and mushroom obliterates Rajakong. Just removes the benefit of collecting lots of units over time and forces you to always use a specific unit

@LucasIVYT

Жыл бұрын

@@turt1100 i fucking hate that so much LOL me when i make the most monotonous meta ever

@maddexhodges4721

Жыл бұрын

Tldr but I assume it’s an extremely valid argument

@Only4two100bucks

Жыл бұрын

very good and thoughtful comment Lucas!

@MrTea--

Жыл бұрын

@@turt1100 it's just like bomber and razorback but somehow even worse

Regarding about design choice of Behemoth enemy. This is actually problem with PONOS translation. In JP version, Behemoth is called "超獣" that roughly means "Superbeast". If we want to make it as accurate as possible, the best possible translation would be "Monster" or "Beast". This translation would fit more because all Behemoth enemy is pictured as fierce variant of pre-existing enemy and also a direct homage to Monster Hunter game. In this context, Behemoth translation choice doesn't make sense. Especially when we already have Colossus/Baron for big-enemy arch-type.

@Vixinity1337

Жыл бұрын

w silumantomcat

@MaxiemumKarnage

Жыл бұрын

Monster Hunter mid

@peasaladdeluxe6392

Жыл бұрын

@@MaxiemumKarnage shut up

@Furry-elimination-squad

Жыл бұрын

@@MaxiemumKarnage I wish I could say your ip rn KZread deletes it tho

@marr1235

Жыл бұрын

@@Furry-elimination-squadThere are no words for how sad your comment is

"Surge immunity? What unit does this counter?" Dark Kasli, obviously. That's the whole reason they were given that ability.

@elfang-tastico9579

Жыл бұрын

Dark Kasli still works bc of the curse XD,and if not,then she still does good damage with only the main attack

@skyjack1

Жыл бұрын

@@FARC723 He meant that curse is still applied regardless of surge immunity.

@elfang-tastico9579

Жыл бұрын

@@skyjack1 Yeah,that's what i mean

@demiskus7030

11 ай бұрын

Yeah i remember using Dasli for Behemoth stages and thinking "why is the duck not dying faster", and then realising 💀💀💀

@afkingrn5408

11 ай бұрын

Bikiniluga obviously

I absolutely hate the behemoth trait because of how hilariously inflated the stats become thanks to the existence of Courier Cat.

@derrickhageman1969

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they nerf him to acceptable stats somewhere in the near future but then yet again everyone is going to whine and cry because corrier cat got nerfed

@iker9095

Жыл бұрын

Not only courier, behemoth slayer ability itself is stupidly bad and was(and is) a horrible addition for the game's balancing. And the fact that ponos instead of solving this problem, just add a new hyperboosted enemy with a new cat to completely counter it(mushroom and rajakong, luza and the relic duche) , makes this even worse

@voidgamer7122

Жыл бұрын

@@derrickhageman1969 2 things could happen here: nerf courier, everyone whines but behemoths stats go back to normal, or dont nerf him and everyone whines, and most behemoths get insane stats, making courier almost necessary

@nameynamd9212

Жыл бұрын

​@@voidgamer7122It kind of feels like what might've occured with angels if they didn't get the anti-floating immunity, though if it were to be applied in a similar way, they probably could reduce the enemies back to around their original stats and a slight buff to behemoth slayer to compensate for no longer being able to double dip on traits/subtraits.

@Astari777

7 ай бұрын

​@@derrickhageman1969theres a problem:They have to balance a ton of stages and enemies

Amazing analysis of the two traits. Aku enemies were definitely a fun addition to the game that made some rather bland enemy variants actually interesting to fight, such as Fallen Bear and Le'Behemoth but man Behemoths could have been executed so much better. I love that most of the Behemoth enemies are based on Monster Hunter enemies (even if I never played any of the games) can lead to some very cool designs like Scissorex. The issue with Behemoth enemies imo is like how you said it leads to over centralization of the Behemoth meta to the point where only a couple of Behemoth Slayers are even worth using, like Courier and Mushroom. Courier definitely played a big part to messing up how PONOS treated Behemoth afterwards. Hazuku is the biggest example, as a backliner with that much damage AND surge can sometimes make him straight up unfair to fight. For those who have played Birth of True Man, you would know. Behemoth Stones I feel wouldn't be as much of an issue if some units didn't have such a high cost. Cactus Cat is probably one of the worst offenders of the amount of stones needed. While on the topic of stone evolutions, the issue with them could be solved by allowing you play the stages multiple times a day so it doesn't take ages to get any of the true forms. I have been grinding out the Behemoth Stone stages almost daily on two of the 3 map available and currently only have Courier, Catarzan, Mushroom, Radical, Haniwa, Supercar, Armored Firefly, and all of the UL true forms outside of Luza. When 12.0 first came out in Japan, I grinded stones to get all of the UL true forms outside of Luza and even when the update was released to the other versions, I only just got all of the stones needed for the 4 other UL true forms. I got to say well done on this analysis!

@modycebula8161

Жыл бұрын

both Cactus Cat and Supercar require more stones to evolve than Adventurer Kanna, an uber rare cat. it's absurd

@Darkwolf69420

Жыл бұрын

i died inside once i saw how many stones luza's tf took, and anything with hazuku in it is immediately tedious and painful to do

@brutalizedmassacrepanzer231

Жыл бұрын

All I could say is that Behemoths have too much stats but our counters weren't strong enough and we have weak specialists.

@BC-od3vd

Жыл бұрын

Behemoth is not a trait...

PONOS on the office like: "Yeah bro let's make a FARMING stage that you can only clear ONCE per day but requires up to 20 fucking clears for a single true form to make it so that players aproaching the end of UL or returning players that stopped playing for a bit are time gated for a fucking MONTH (if not more) to be able to get to experience the end game content" On a more serious note my biggest problem with behemoth is the fact that PONOS is just giving it so much focus and spotlight in the recent updates, like I didn't really hate behemoth stuff on release (other than behemoth stone farming), I knew it wasn't a super interesting addition but I just thought "it's just a sub trait like colossus, it's not gonna be super relevant aside from it's dedicated stages", but now we are into 9 months of behemoth focused updates and SPECIALLY, Legends Zero seems that it's going to be heavily focused on behemoth, I'm really worried about how good and fun end game content and Legends Zero as a whole is going to be in the future

Everything about this video is facts, i really hope behemoths get a blanket fix before ponos goes too deep with them. RNG and busted stats based enemies make for some of the most boring and unfair stages I’ve played in a long time

@aruce9

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the grind to get all UL true forms is worse than how growing strange was

@MrTea--

Жыл бұрын

@@aruce9 yea. And it's not like growing strange wasn't hell enough. Now we have that and farming for the stones.

@savagespider6836

Жыл бұрын

I think it might be too late

@chunkyrabbit1032

Жыл бұрын

200% wild doge as peons are aids

@arandomcoward

Жыл бұрын

At least its not a couple of stages that you dont even know which they are. Its one stage where you have to kill three ducks, a bird and a blue sloth

Here's an idea: what if the cat army found an uncharted area with the behemoths in them, and had to defend their base from behemoths instead of attacking other bases? In order to win you would have to maybe to things like "kill x amount of wild doges" or something like that? Awesome video and great analysis, keep up the good work!

@radar285

Ай бұрын

interesting idea. considering that the aggressors are always cats

THE FOLIVOREAN: I'm playing both sides, so that i always come out on top.

@popg21-the-epic51

Жыл бұрын

Rangmaster: you play both sides and you come out on top i try that and I'm hated...that doesn't seem fair

@togeluga_the_cat

4 ай бұрын

@@popg21-the-epic51 Me with Folivorean: oh dear, oh dear, gorgeous me with Rangmaster: i hope you burn in deepest pits of hell

@TankieBoi

17 күн бұрын

@@popg21-the-epic51 Rangmaster is Folivorean but overpowered as hell

*Me find something to listen while editing video* btw pretty good analysis by far I'm somewhat ok with Behemoth concept because it gives us Courier which make everything easier... a lot easier that make me worried. Courier ended up being one of the most used units for every player which is the exact same as Dasli case when it came out (except that it's free unit). This absolute broke the balance of early to mid-game which I'm not impress about. As you said, it makes the memorable stage that I love when I play 5-6 years ago become unmemorable. I only hype on Behemoth update only because of the design because it's MonHun reference and it's the franchise the I play the most in my entire life. I'll not going to give my opinion on Behemoth power scaling because my unit is uncomparable to others. In the perspective perspective of grinder, Behemoth Stone is nightmare for us since it's limited farmable resource. Even though, I can still farm all of them whenever I want (with a power of Dark Magik) but it still annoying to do.

@greenlll121

Жыл бұрын

man people hate behemoth but love them because they are mh reference wt hell is going on

@HMFamily2024

Жыл бұрын

@@greenlll121 what, you don’t like mh reference?

@MaxiemumKarnage

Жыл бұрын

Monster Hunter mid

@phatphungus6453

Жыл бұрын

@@MaxiemumKarnage you mid

@OcToBeR

Жыл бұрын

@@MaxiemumKarnage you need MH in your life.

31:56 NOOOO THE DRAGON STACK

I also think that not enough time was given between traits. Whereas when zombie was implemented we did not get relics until after SoL was over, we got aku and a couple of updates behemoth, which was not handled as a real trait and thus led to the balance issues noted on the video

If I remember correctly, the original translation for behemoth enemies were beast enemies, and I don't know why they didn't keep that. It fits the designs so much better, and we already have colossal enemies, so why make another subtype referencing size?

Awesome video, good job I feel kinda bad because this is the BC content that's worth watching, but it ends up getting overshadowed by BCU bullshit Hopefully this and your other videos eventually get more attention

@shadowimpostor1990

Жыл бұрын

i agree taht the bcu stuff is bullshit ASSASSIN BEAR RETEXTURE WITH OP ABILTY KILL EVERYTHING!!! (part 494

@Gastro-enterite-en-imax

Жыл бұрын

Bcu?

@kab43

Жыл бұрын

FACTS aeg666 is so overrated

@moopymeebloopy456

Жыл бұрын

@@kab43 nobody likes him in the first place

@themustardman219

Жыл бұрын

@@Gastro-enterite-en-imax battle cats ultimate, it's basically modded battle cats. The most viewed videos of battle cats usually are for some reason just videos of overpowered modded units, spamming overpowered units, and the very rare cool modded unit that children that watch the videos think is real

33:16 ponos: **adds an aku behemoth**

Absolutely loved this video, extremely good commentary, I really enjoyed listening to this, please keep making more content and I will keep supporting you!

Thank you sir. This was a very informative video that explains things I never even ask before. Plus makes me want to go back and play battle cats.

Awesome video!! You have a lot of knowledge and explain it all really well! I'm really happy from having you making videos for the Battle Cats Community!

I think Ponos should be less hesitant to change aspects of the game. Usually if they make an underwhelming update, they usually push it under the rug somewhat (i.e, talent orbs) or try to fix it via additions (i.e behemoth). I get why they are more hesitant to do this as if they were to potentially nerf a gacha unit that someone spent a lot of money on to get, there can be some illegality issues there, but for units like courier I don’t see why they don’t just strip it of it’s behemoth slayer ability. It’s perfectly fine without it and would still be one of the better counters to behemoth red duche anyway

@nikolasmoret1884

8 ай бұрын

Or they could just make behemoth slayer not stack, right

@noneofyourbusiness5167

5 ай бұрын

It seems they are finally taking a good step with how PONOS is implementing the Sage sub-trait. Hard to counter, but not outlandishly hard, and most units are usable (except CC, which is kinda the main gimmick.)

"Aku and behemoth are the newest enemies" Me with a colossal enemy on my bag: 🍷🗿

Mamon was my favorite enemy from aku realms, wasnt hard but felt like a final boss

@TankieBoi

17 күн бұрын

I hate the enemy, anything with a shield and high pushing power is a piece of RNG shit (the akuhemoth sloth is fine because the shield works well for a passive backliner that ponos wants to die last), the whole point of pushers is they're meant to have some kind of weakness (many knockbacks, low health, high money drop, CC susceptibility, single target, exploitable trait, ec.) and guess what? Shit like Fallen Bear and marmon have *NONE* of these weaknesses, because they have a shield totaling up to 5x their max health, preventing proper knockbacks and inflating the enemy's health to be worse than the average behemoth enemy! And the shield piercing units are either gacha pulls or single target, and tend to be an RNG hellhole! It's like needing to have critical hitters, except the only thing it accomplishes is overcoming one aspect of an overpowered pusher! I'm very sick of trying to brute force these shit enemies because all I have access to is evolved form aku researcher and some very good midrangers AKA jizo + courier (which can still barely hold off condemned pengs, let alone fallen bears and shit)

Great video! I will say that I do have a soft spot for behemoths (I'm a monster hunter addict and I've been catered to) but they really could have been implemented better. Some of the more recent pterowl stages in particular have just felt like I'm brute forcing it over 10 minutes.

Fantastic analysis. 11:20 Strangely enough, this is a very common pitfall I've seen plenty of times in different kinds of games, my mind immediately goes to Afterbirth and Dead Cells, the former of which noticed that late bosses like Blue Baby and the Lamb were getting melted by solid runs and decided to make sure Hush and Ultra Greed (and Delirium later on) soaked up a tedious amount of damage not only generally but because of automatically boosting their health based on your attack. It's not exactly hard to guess why this didn't fly all too well and why we all remember Dogma so much more. The latter had a massive trouble in making enemies later on feel different from early stages, so this happened mostly from affixes and general weapon issues, late game enemies soak up such an unreasonable amount of damage that you have to constantly worry about crit conditions and affix setups, despite the fact that the game doesn't want you committing to one weapon, meaning you'll likely be wasting a lot of weapons and get stuck dealing with spongey foes left to right while you painfully watch your timer go up. It's kind of a shame that this kind of make or break pitfall is generally difficult to avoid, and that Ponos likely won't patch any of this but here's to hoping more devs learn from these kinds of design struggles.

@notmintmobile

Жыл бұрын

wasn't expecting to see an isaac player here but hell yeah, balancing new content around broken things that have been implemented instead of making the broken things weaker is never good

9:09 Me having an anxiety attack about how tight the battle in the background is getting

damn this is one of the best battle cats video i've ever seen, amazing job!

binge watched a couple of your videos and i must say ure my favorite battle cats youtuber

Damn this video is so good, you are underrated my man.

I forgot if I left a comment here already but this video is so well done. I have seen it at least 3 times since last summer and about to view it for the 4th. Methinks that with all the behemoth stuff out now, it has improved a little. But it won't be able to fix what it has done, and it is the reason why I have courier cat doing the 'ah eto bleh' face drawn in my phone.

Well, seeing as PONOS's new idea of resolving a unit's problems is by hiding the patch behind lv60 super talents (Kuu), I don't expect courier or any of the egg units to be fixed any time soon... All they have to do is nerf courier's attack stat a small bit and allow CC eggs to affect any B-unit, albeit make it weaker on non trait-target units so its not more power creep.

@MaxiemumKarnage

Жыл бұрын

Just remove Courier and act like it never happened

Let's go! I've been listening to the world of goo soundtrack lately

so glad this video exists. the way ponos is handling the behemoth trait makes me hate the behemoths in general

your analysis videos are amazing!! :)) keep up the good work!

Badass video. There aren’t enough documentary style bc videos

If the owl didn't have a blindspot i wouldn't bother trying to fight it Also beating the whole aku realm before unlocking cactus because I never get yellow rocks to drop, i have done every single behemoth stage and grinded the two that can drop yellows every time they show up, but since the update I have gotten just 2 of them

@mcsimik3654

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, Owl's blind spot. Luza from Birth of True Man says hello🤗

Amazing music selection you earned yourself a subscriber just for that

Very well worded. I always knew that something was up with Behemoths that I didn’t like, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it until watching this. Very well done Also I thought that Behemoths were referencing Kirby and the Forgotten Land, since they were originally translated as Beasts, but no :(

100% agree. The Aku Realms was a lot of fun. The Behemoth farming stages are just tedious

Underrated subs for a video this good, subscribed

Really well made analysis video. Aku was implemented so thoughtfully so behemoth completely dropping the ball was pretty disappointing, although with the reception it has gotten I feel that PONOS will take some sort of option I also really love the analysis of Aku on the thematic side, I feel the visuals and themes of battle cats aren't talked about that much despite how important it is to the game's charm. The analysis of alien and zombie were also really interesting, although personally I really like the implementation of zombies, aside from the huge difficult gap between the normal stages and the outbreak stages Behemot trait as a whole is pretty bad, but I think Courier and behemoth stones are the worst inclusions. Courier is just a horribly designed unit, and introduction of more variety in farmable material just feels lame

Very well thought and made video :)

Looking back on akus after behemoths ended their culling stages and the subsequent brainwashed true forms really reminds me of the comparison between realm of carnage and aku reincarnation. They are like the manic cats of mid game with some interesting support. Also I’d like to point out that behemoth slayer most likely came from the the magi madoka and evangelion collabs with their XL collabs that allow their tougher bosses to be beatable it’s fine for a collab to have broken enemies with almost 10M health. I hope we can see a follow up when possibly am realms chapter 2 drops in a few months

I think the sub-trait concept has the potential to be done very well if the enemy units of the next sub trait have an interesting mechanism and cat units used against them don't target regular traits. Like if there's a sub-trait enemy, it can be countered by cats that target the trait or cats that have the anti-sub-trait ability.

Despite not struggling on both behemoth and aku, I just find behemoth kind of boring. When playing behemoth stages, it feels like I am just tapping buttons to kill enemies with no meaning. Aku is different however as it changes core gameplay. From what I have written I can conclude that even if you do not struggle on behemoths, it won't make the game interesting as Ponos doesn't really introduce anything new. Same play style with no new changes (actually the playstyle does change however not in a good way. Cc is now non existent against behemoths with the only way to beat them being brute force. )

@Darkwolf69420

Жыл бұрын

fighting aku makes you time your units and think about what to send out. fighting behemoth enemies makes you feel like you're chipping away at a wall for 5 minutes

I think they have a road map for aku stuff ready, but Someone Get baby rage mad about Their "super cool Beast/Behemoth Trait" was rejected so they somehow manage to conviced the highers up to make the Team focus on it instead

"death surge is the 1st ability to activate on death" Survive left the chat

@goober4347

Жыл бұрын

Survive is on lethal damage, death surge is 0.5 seconds after death

@Kris_with_Banana

Жыл бұрын

Zombie respawn counts right?

@Katsu-Kitty

Жыл бұрын

@@Kris_with_Banana Oh yeah true, i forgor about that

Stone farming is incredibly stupid. They make it so annoying to farm them and unless u get a hunters map you aren't guaranteed any particular color. I'll go out of my way to play all 3 stages for the day and only get red stones or purple. Blue green and yellow are incredibly rare even tho I'm playing stages with the best chances for them. Rainbow stones u can play up to 3 times and if they added that to the other stone stages it would be nicer. Late game players suffer to evolve true forms because of this mechanic and if they're worried that low level players will get powerful units...well lock the content behind a skill check like having access to UL first

@Darkwolf69420

Жыл бұрын

i literally have like 3x the amount of rainbow stones than yellow stones like wtf ponos

@Moon_Sushie

Жыл бұрын

@Aaron Jin ponos think they about to make a high level evolve by having 2 rainbow clusters one day not knowing yellow stones be the true gold

I love how this video made your sub count increase by a lot

As a monster hunter fan I love how many references are in the behemoth enemies, like the dogs signature Canyne X on the forehead

the world of goo ost is amazing and it fits this video really well

Behemoth stages were just straight up "Wild dogs will mess you up bad", meanwhile I have ZERO anti Behemoth units and its just trying to get red stones to evolve a courier cat. And that feeling, is not a good feeling. Compared to having a barrier breaking unit ready to go for Cosmos or Aku in at least my Fencer Cat. Then expanding on it with other units as when I need them. Whereas these Behemoth stages are just "You lose" or "Its a grindfest to deal enough damage" where I have to just meatshield and hit things hard and pray. And yep its Can Can and meatshields. Then wait a million years to win. Its stages that feel bad to lose your energy on when their difficulty star is placed against others. It doesn't feel like a puzzle like other stages do feel like.

Can't wait for the video on Colossal since they were implemented probably just as bad if not worse than Behemoth.

A behemoth and colossus integrated story might be interesting, tho that might be difficult to pull off lol

All this time later and I look back on this video again and again. Behemoth is by far one of the most infuriating things to fight, especially scissorex, hazuku, rajakong and maybe even vermilingua (Albeit to a much lesser degree). Behemoths just make me feel weak… and because of the system for stones being super limited until you fight these insane monsters, I can’t get stronger like with the aku realms. At least I’m making progress through the realm, maybe I’ll beat jagando and beat empress afterwords, but behemoth is just a wall that can fight back… doesn’t matter which enemy, it’s nothing more than a wall w/ a different position. Months in… and I only have courier… I don’t even wanna true form other eggs cause I’m trying to get the major counters to progress… and w/ my luck… I proceed to not even get yellow stones… like… at all… all I feel is pain 🥲

What a banger analysis

I like the video but I would disagree in something: most of the units against Aku that are not ubers only focus on status effects but those doesn't apply if the shield is up, and the only shield-breakers are Aku researcher and Li'l macho legs with talents. Yeah, you can chip down the shields but that's worth it only if you have the cash to summon stuff enough to stop the akus and fellas from walking to your base. What I think they could have done it's to give some units like Fiend cat the shield-breaking ability, similar to what happens with Zombies, since even if you dont have ANY anti-zombie, you could just use Thaumaturge cat as an improvised zombie killer and lots of meatshields (yeah, I know that exists Shigong but Onmyoji cat is a more often draw from the gacha, and im talking of DESPERATE times), while in the Aku meta you don't have the same oportunity since shield-breaking is another RNG fiasco from PONOS' hands that limits to 2 non-uber units. Also as a footnote: the shields INCREASE in health with enemy magnification while Alien barriers dont so you'll eventually would get Mexico'ed if you dont have any anti-aku uber. I liked your investigation for the video, but I needed to get this out of my head. Have a nice day👋

Hello Canned Juice, doubt you'll see this but I wanna ask anyway. With behemoth Culling (and most likely the behemoth saga overall) finally reaching it's end with the final culling stages and Ensanglion the calamity, is there any chance you'll remake this video or make an analysis video on the behemoth subtrait as a whole?

i hate how commonly enemies have immunities. it's basically the games way to artificially force you to grind for more (usually new units) to specifically counter behemoths and nothing else

Honestly, i think they just rushed with behemoths. They should have focused more on akus and take more time making behemoths because they could have been such a good implementation. "Recently" behemoth content almost completely shadowed aku content and it's so sad because in each update behemoths just get somehow worse . I think if they focused on akus and then took time making behemoths , it would have been much better instead of releasing units like courier and bad implementations like behemoth slayer Edit : amazing video btw, it's 34 minutes of straight up facts

One would hope they'd just take the L and nerf behemoths and their counters

Now theres sages, uh oh

Anyone remember when the Epic cube farming stage was released and it was nearly impossible to beat it consistently without legend cat true forms (or very specific ubers)?

I totally understand the Behemoth backlash. For some reason I just feel annoyed by Aku though. Maybe it's because the scarcity of Shield Piercing units makes it more of a challenge. Of course there are other useful counters, such as talented Fiend, talented Lils, and Cat Cactus(who I got last because of the stupid Yellow Stone farming... yuck), but it also made the grind to get through a little more rewarding. I learned more about timing through Slime and Supercar, wished I had more Surge Immune units in my repertoire, and cried knowing that the only other Aku Advent drop kinda sucked. But through those hardships I gained newfound knowledge of how to better strategize for stages, and what cats I should use to help out. Boulder was a big lifesaver for some of those stages too. But then I got Iz the Dancer of Grief and stomped my way through stages till Mexico. Well, at least the shields are only 50% on regen. XP Bonanza is pretty fun too! Only Aku enemy I hate without a doubt is Midnite D and even that is a bit more rare. Aku Gory's savage blow is scary, but mostly negligible, and with good enough timing Condemned Peng can fall victim to a Slime, a Supercar, or just Bullet Train. Overall a very nice trait! Just... never pair Akus with Angels ever again. Please.

@zpooky6076

Жыл бұрын

Petition to pair Fallen Bear with Angelic Gory spam

About the zombie part "the treasure boost is almost useless when you get them", I got the outbreaks of eoc 1-3 and thought it might improve itf treasure chances

Other sub traits (eva angel killer and witch killer) work because eva angel enemies and witch enemies are collab enemies, and, as collab enemies, they are always either trait less or, rarely, floating. Eva angel/witch killer stacks with other boosts like massive damage and strong vs., but this usually doesn’t happen. And when it does, it doesn’t matter much because the enemies with this subtrait, and, by extension, the subtraits themselves, are collab-exclusive and not part of main progression.

world of goo music instant perfect video (and the rest of the video is pretty great too)

I very much appreciate the World of Goo music.

This feels like something I would talk about in vc with the only other irl friend who likes Battle Cats I honestly really enjoy Behemoths as a whole, they gave us some of the most powerful cats, albeit being extremely difficult to beat. I simply think that enemies being extremely strong isnt necessarily a bad thing, as the stronger enemies begin to appear the further you grind Behemoth Stones, and therefore you'd have the necessary units to beat them. Basically like unlocking anti-Aku is necessary for a lot of the later stages of Aku Realms/Aku Advent stages. But I do agree that Behemoths were badly implemented to the game, tho. They could've polished the concept a lot better so they were better received by the community. I enjoyed this video a lot!

@-ferno4333

3 ай бұрын

One last thing, behemoth also means "monstrous". The designs are meant to make the enemies look non-tamed, as the lore of the game originally stated that countries were sending their respective animals to fight the cat army lol

Ok, you may be correct amazing analysis of the two types but one thing is for certain, courier is OP

Not agreeing with some places but respect for making a huge video about it

I was stuck on mining epic and ironically enough i wasn’t using courier thinking that megamojo surge made him unusable but with enough of courier spam i finally won the stage Money may not solve problems but enough of it definitely can

i wish behemoth wasn't a trait but a type of THEME ya know like instead of behemoth enemies having over 1.5 mil hp and 20--40k attack they just have unique abilities! like rajakong is the only BIG (design wise) while the rest spawn in groups like the Casaurian variants the casaurian variants should have definitely a group type enemy where they are kinda buffed but spawn in groups of 3-4 for like 2-3 waves periodically instead just 3 buffed and annoying things! (imo at least) edit: i also wish ponos went for more of a dinosaur-like design to be a bit more original for the behemoth instead of just copying and pasting already but what's done is done at the end of the day i am still a hardcore BCplayer and will continue to play BC until the games services is done

Pretty great video overall, just one thing I want to point out. Denmark is not the middle of Empire of Cats, it is the 29th out of 48th stage in EoC. It is still very near the middle, and your point still stands.

being a kasli-carry hearing "what does this unit counter" rattled my bones

LET'S GO WORLD OF GOO OST WOOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 🥳🥳🥳🥳

Very detailed analysis. Three things to add though: 1. The way they handled Wicked Cat stage schedule is not the ideal to say the least. You have to do those stages for convuluted schedules. Basically, if you miss any of the stages due to any reason, you have to wait for them. There are 12 pre stages before you get to fight Wicked Cats, that's a lot to miss if you aren't actively playing BC. The way to circumvent this is to time travel to trick the game, which is very bad as you are now incentivized to use cheating method to progress. On this department, at least culling stage schedules are much more friendly to many players. It's very unlikely for you to miss them at all. 2. Speaking of culling stages. Those stages have pain in ass "one clear per day" restriction. This is very bad for grinding stones for many egg TFs and UL legend TFs. The only way to get stones faster is to do enigma. And there's an exploit for players to use to farm enigma in much faster rate. Once again, Ponos gives you more incentive to cheat the game. Both reasons so far pointed out that Ponos literally ask their players to cheat the game to progress more smoothly and to make the behemoth stone farming not being too painful. But there's the third point which actually affects the core gameplay. 3. Those immunities on Behemoths change how you play the game significantly. Ducks have slow/freeze immunity making cc units like Cyberpunk or many CC ubers overall less desirable. The best way to deal with them is to bruteforce with the DPS. And we have Courier as reliable behemoth DPS. Which is like you said, it centralizes the game too much on behemoth slayers units while also make many CC units to be straight up worse. Bad. Game. Design. In the end, I am not happy how they implemented Behemoth traits. Bad game design while asking players to cheat.

@DecidiousGreens

6 ай бұрын

But shields also remove cc?

i love that you used world of goo ost

Aku felt like a pure typing to me like howz traitless, alien and all that shiit is behemoth is a sub typing..which for some reason ponos is trying to make a main type. They don't have special characteristics only being they are stronger then regular variant which is kinda boring tbh. Aku having shield, alien having barrier, red having immense dps but most of them having low range, angel dps, higher def and knock backs, kinda well rounded enemies, black being high dmg, high kb nd fast, relic have their curse, zombies have burrow ...and we have behemoth being like, "I'm just a boosted ver."

@andreiryancaballero7422

8 ай бұрын

A boosted one with immunities, to be exact.

Surge immune for the black duck makes sense due to adventurer Kanha or whatever the pirate girl from girls and monsters is called

@astablemultivibbrator8538

Жыл бұрын

The surge immune is to cripple Dasli specifically, and other surge units have to suffer as a consequence.

@catarathegato1240

Жыл бұрын

@@astablemultivibbrator8538 that's also true, but her surge along with the massive damage and behemoth slayer would've deleted the poor duck

@ScrappySlowbro

Жыл бұрын

@@astablemultivibbrator8538 add that to the list on why i hate Dasli

Haven’t played the game in years but still watching this

Hello, this is a formal letter from Crucatious & Historiananic. We are currently reviewing your video, and we must say, we are disturbed, shocked, and overall terrified to notice that throughout the length of the entire video, you have been misspelling Courier Cat as Courrier Cat. The extra unnecessary R has shook us to our very core. Fix this, or our lawyers will be in contact. -Mason and Ethan

28:22 rip, barely outdated info Great video though, thank you for making this.

For some reason after watching this video, I wanted to play battle cats again, so i transferred my account which i haven't used in 3 years and....I did. Thank you, The game is way better than i remember.

The beserk angel gory's wave immunity is a pain in the ass for momoko users

cool video, leaving this comment to help on the youtube algorithm.

Ponos has been on something why would they make pumpcat target black beast enemies when both of the current ones are immune to freeze

@markguyton2868

Жыл бұрын

Because they forgot they made the Black Behemoths immune because of Bombercat and also forgot the CC doesn't affect the other Behemoths beyond the target trait.

I actually have an idea for zombie story mode. It woulb be called zombie apocalypsis. And I have an idea that might make it unique. When you go throught those stages you would clear regions like in outbreaks. But this time it is not for treashures but for gamatoto. You woukd be able to sent gamatoto in those cleared regions and they woukd have exclusive loot like zombie seeds and fruits. They would akt like tempary boosts that u can place on cat unit u want to boost for defense or attack against zombie. You could also find special gamatoto asistants that will have aloow u to get more exclusive loot. Also to get to these stages u woukd need to clear all zombie outbreaks in one of any chapters. And it would be funny if in intro it eould say "this is what happens when you don't do zombie outbreaks"

Always made me sad when people didn't like Iron Legion as much as I do. Thermae is my favorite Uber, and I've (unintentionally I don't seed track) got all of them aside from Muu. I like using the base forms on easier stages just to appreciate the cute design

@Ice_melt

7 ай бұрын

I have every non event legend and I don’t seed track

@iandean1112

7 ай бұрын

@@Ice_melt luck is on your side friend!

*defidently not me with talented Kai one shotting the barrier of the cyclone

I'm enjoyed the video so much

Radical cat is an amazing counter to pterowl… I do agree though, behemoth kind of sucks especially as someone who stopped playing for a while and came back to it after beating it for a while, when I came back I had a lot of catching up to do… which is normally good but I had no idea that my normal counters wouldn’t work on behemoths. I think that some of the better counters will all be gatchas or will be released later. If you have killer cat though, you need to true form him so that you can do better against pterowl. Also, the research up large combo really is good.

My bro got the best VGM musical taste from terraria to world of goo... Dayuuuum

Great video!!! Great video!! Yes...Behemoth sub trait.... contains problems....much problems. Espero que Ponos pronto intente corregir esto, al menos nerfearlos. Behemoth integration is principal problem.

7:45 i saw this slide into frame and felt nothing but pure dread seeing gory as a rajang good lord

8:48 with the exception of awakened urs and gorgeous groovin cat, which have 30% and 8% dodge chance respectively.

On the debut stage for the black behemoth crocodile in that stage there is a behemoth with a death surge

i got mintama from my first 11 draw on a new account, Used it to grind some catfruit stages and sold all other units i got from the draw to get her to lvl 15. im a happy man

At 27:30 you can see one the flaws of behemoths. Courier cat is tooo op and is a requirement for almost every behemot slay

Cats of the cosmos’ halfway point is deneb. The first two chapters have generally good, hard, stages. The third is a stage that introduces Axoloty.

@shadowimpostor1990

Жыл бұрын

cosmic party thing is

@dakaramotto.

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowimpostor1990 cosmic lounge? No, deneb is the middle and has no restrictions

@shadowimpostor1990

Жыл бұрын

@@dakaramotto. big bang is the 48th stage cosmic lounge is the 24th stage 48 divided by 2 = 24 :

@dakaramotto.

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowimpostor1990 but cosmic lounge isn’t the midway point, there’s nothing special about it

@shadowimpostor1990

Жыл бұрын

@@dakaramotto. the only midway point that actually is suppose dto be a midway point is the great abyss