Ironic the Eragon movie had a bigger budget then the individual Lord of the Rings movies. Guess that shows the Eragon team just didn't have the ingenuity.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, you're right!

@joliethevenot4596

3 жыл бұрын

I had no idea!

@titanhunter6431

3 жыл бұрын

In the Movie there were also these Tarzan Women who jumped with Lians in to the Battle lol

@amirhb7531

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow well f me

4:54 omg, I jumped a bit there 😅

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that! Missed it until I published it

@Subsidize101

3 жыл бұрын

mee too lol

*God Artemis's redemption arc was so much fun to read when I was in High School.* That movie is frustrating

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Right?

Oh god, the percy jackson flashbacks are coming back!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Trigger Warning

@OnionYeeter

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow not in the sjw way.

@peterlewis2178

3 жыл бұрын

At least now we're getting a Percy Jackson disney plus show, and Rick Riordan is heavily involved in the process, producing it and writing the initial scripts. Finally the justice we deserve.

@lakeside1168

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterlewis2178 Some of my favorite preteen books that all you can say about the movies, is that they didn't care about the original image. They wanted to make their own version of his story and thats disrespectful to me. Everything was wrong in the movies.

@peterlewis2178

3 жыл бұрын

@@lakeside1168 I agree. I still enjoyed the movies, but I had to convince myself that it wasn't really Percy Jackson first. I definitely understand why a lot of people hate them, since it's not that easy to disconnect yourself from the source material, and not everyone can do it like I can. They're decent movies, but absolutely horrible adaptations.

The Perks of Being a Wallflower and The Maze Runner are 2 examples where I prefer the movie to the book

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

I'd agree!

@joliethevenot4596

3 жыл бұрын

These are great examples yeah

@debzykvids

3 жыл бұрын

Same for Maze Runner with me (yet to check out Perks)! I read the books and saw the movies around the same time and preferred the 3 films so much more! Even though it came off generic at points at least it wasn't overtly nonsensical in how it ended - let alone with certain twists.

@BlondeCurlsBlueEyes

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, and I'd add Jaws as another one

@patriciomejia1114

3 жыл бұрын

I can't speak for The Maze Runner (I haven't read the books or watched the movies), but I'm not surprised about The Perks of Being a Wallflower. Stephen Chbosky, the author of the book, directed the movie and wrote its screenplay, so the movie has a similar feel to the book, and while I love both the movie and the book, I will admit that the book has so much material that it's sometimes difficult to tell what the focus of the story is, something that is improved upon in the movie (at least in my opinion).

That bookworm childhood introduction was quite the flex. xD

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Haha sadly I don't read anywhere near that much now.

@timtam3730

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow 😢

@debzykvids

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow I haven't that much either tbh, so you're not alone. Especially with how grim 2020's been, getting my reading groove back has been hard. 😭

This makes me all the more glad that Assassin’s Creed is now getting a second chance as a Netflix series similar to The Witcher. As well as cautiously optimistic for the new Dune film.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Same!

And then there are movies that blow the book away like Forrest Gump and The Godfather. It is possible for the adaptation to be better than the original source. The problem I see is when the movie decides to make a completely different story for no reason. Look at I Robot and Jumper for examples.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Ooo, I Robot would have made for a great example!

@andreasmeelie1889

3 жыл бұрын

I most definitely say that the Divergent books and movies are prime examples of taking the movies to a completely different story for no reason. The first Divergent movie followed the source material and then the second one did for a while till the ending completely changed everything out of practically nowhere and then the third one was too different for it's own good. I enjoyed the films but I didn't like it. :(

@Tedris4

3 жыл бұрын

I, Robot the book: man, screw “robots overthrow humanity” stories, they’re overplayed and dull, let’s make some stories around some simple rules and the results of robotic interpretations of those rules! I, Robot the film: robots overthrow humanity

Gotta love “How to train your dragon!”

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Such a great movie, but nothing like the book

@jamesenglebert9149

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs has no named characters they had no choice but to make up characters.

@Eggnog88

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow better, however

Dude, I think you hit upon a genius idea in the right hands - Dracula as a found footage film. If they're going to be lame and put him in modern day, then they could at least get creative with it.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, you're right! Cool, making this now!

When it comes to bad adaptations, Artemis Foul is its own conversation of failure. It’s not just a bad adaptation, it’s so hollow, bland and not interesting that it can even be a entertaining watch on its own. It almost reminds me of Dragonball: Evolution (which I have not seen).

@daniellado2523

3 жыл бұрын

Also they do the adaptation sin of completely going in the opposite direction that the original story went, when people enjoyed the original source already. Artemis is supposed to be a villain in the first book for a reason.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Right? it's so bad!

I never realized that Eragon was so influenced by Star Wars. Great video!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brooke!

@reaperofinsanity3370

3 жыл бұрын

only really the first book

@willlyon7129

Жыл бұрын

Basically trying to capture lightning in a bottle.

I can't even imagine what the hell caused Lucasfilms to throw away an entire 40 years of experimentation, worldbuilding, and beloved stories for their next three films

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Cause money

To be fair, part of why movie adaptions of books and the like *appear* to suck is often that good ones overshadow the book they're adapting from. For example, Jurassic Park, Jaws, and Roger Rabbit. These are beloved movies, but people often forget that they're based on books. In Roger Rabbit's case, even the author considers the movie better than the book.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

An interesting point!

@joliethevenot4596

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@melodyclark1944

3 жыл бұрын

And Gone with the Wind

You hit so many nails on the head. When I imagine a movie adaptation for a book, I think of something like Harry Potter or LOTR, and this video explained very well what resulted in them being such brilliant adaptations and why are ones like those so rare. Artemis Fowl has been my biggest disappointment so far.

A comment for the algorithm

@brainrelish

3 жыл бұрын

Another

@Geekritique

3 жыл бұрын

@@brainrelish AND MY AXE

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! Bless you.

@joliethevenot4596

3 жыл бұрын

Solid

Funny story; Just saw, and read Holes again, and actually thought the movie did better (in some places. It was almost equal and a fair tbf)

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Well that's good!

@XLRAshon

Жыл бұрын

Naw..The movie was good, I've watched it many times. But the book is one of the greatest child/ya novels of all time

I'll give one thing to the Artemis fowl movie. It made me so angry I reread the book series just so I could articulate all the changes I would hate in the adaptation and I ended up learning to love the series again from a new perspective as an adult

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Well that is an upside!

My favorite film adaptations are Mary Poppins, Lord of The Rings, The Godfather, The Exorcist, both Willy Wonka's, and Jurassic Park. Each of these films were able to improve some aspects that were lacking in the book. Mr Banks' Character Development for example is among some of the best development I've seen in a film so far

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

A great example!

@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051

3 жыл бұрын

​@@CenterRow true. Though PL Travers hated the film, I think Mr Banks' depression arc was one of the few aspects that she tolerated

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

At least that's what Saving Mister Banks would have me believe

Every minute without a new upload prolongs my suffering.

This video essay has single-handedly given me the understanding that sometimes an adaptation into a TV series is better, and not just a overdone attempt at adapting while circumventing the infamy movie adaptations have now.

Nothing will ever beat the Lord Of The Rings. Certainly not a perfect adaptation, some questionables decisions, and yet it's still the three best movies ever.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@jothishprabu8

3 жыл бұрын

A Rather Cheesy Adaptation

@XER606

9 ай бұрын

@@jothishprabu8 Have you read the books? People sing in like almost every chapter early on seriously

In my eyes there's a few easy rules to follow. 1) don't remake what's already great - you set yourself up for failure. 2) don't adapt if you're not passionate - you just won't get it right. 3) don't translate, instead get inspired - people will bring less baggage into the theater 4) don't just go ahead and make a movie - keep in touch with original creators (if possible) or check out fan communities to get a feeling Castlevania, Lord of the Rings and the first half of Game of Thrones are great examples of people following those rules

@supoa9489

3 жыл бұрын

Agree especially with number 3

Awesome video! Such great insight! That feeling of getting a bad adaptation of a series you love is honestly unparalleled in its disappointment.

Another huge problem is that the way Hollywood expects profits to be for their movies, the movies not only have to be a hit in the country that they're made in, but they have to also be a hit overseas. Many books just don't.. translate well in other countries. Dialog and social cues that make sense in one country can confuse or just fall flat in others. So often, this stuff is cut and the movie is filled in with the lowest common denominator of stuff that everyone can understand. Unfortunately, this usually destroys the film for the market in the country the movie was made in. If it's a big budget movie, you can bet that it's been stripped down to the bare minimum that people can understand. This especially hurts adaptations because stripping a book, which is a literary medium, down to it's bare core where people who don't understand certain things unique to the country it came from, can completely toss the entire point of a story into the toilet. I've always been ticked off by Hollywood doing this. And Starship Troopers was an abomination. It was one of my favorite pulp sci-fi books. I was excited when I discovered that they were making a movie out of it. Then I went to see it, and it was like the people who made the movie didn't even read the book. They just read the description on the back of the book, and made some other movie, slapping the name of the book on it. It was like the director wanted to make an "Aliens" movie, the studio told him they wanted "Starship Troopers", and the director just made his "Aliens" movie. I would have been fine with Starship Troopers if they didn't slap the name of the book on it and promote it as an adaption of the book. It's not even the same story. There's nothing of the book in it. Fine. Make that movie. But don't call it Starship Troopers based on the book by Robert Heinlein.

Literally no one is here😂 love this channel

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Lol thanks

Wow, I agreed with every single thing you said in this video. That's so rare for me when people are discussing adaptations. I think it's amazing how something can be a GOOD adaptation that preserves the soul of the original work even while making massive character changes (Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, The Hunger Games) but you can feel when "The chart guys" got their hands on an adaptation that could have been good and destroyed it (most of the other examples you gave). I actually like the Hobbit movies but I know they're tragically flawed and it breaks my heart that the studio forced Jackson's hand and, by doing so, made it so much less than what it could have been.

I’m not used to these longer form videos from this channel, but I kinda love it

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, took me freaking forever

Great video! As a long time bookworm, I used to be on the camp of they-shouldn't-change-things in adaptations but realised as I got older that different things work in different mediums. However, I think one-to-one adaptations can be boring and slow. So my controversial opinion is that I didn't enjoy the Netflix Series of Unfortunate Events. It felt too slow, I didn't like NPH as Olaf and I didn't make it past the first season but I loved the books!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

I loved those books and was a little too nervous to check out the show after the movie butchered it.

I really loved this video! It was well thought through, full of great examples, and really interesting! Thank you for making it c:

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

*cries in Percy Jackson fan*

Love this video! was Recommended on reddit because of artemis fowl.thanks for your work!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks and thanks for watching!

I Hate this phrase "the book was better." Movies are 100 times more complicated. The screenplay is just the beginning of film!

DAM! you scared the crap out of me at 4:56 ! Drop the basss!!!!

stumbled upon this video by accident, but damn this was so well done?? i didn't even notice that i had watched a 25 min long video! i absolutely agree with everything said in this video. we always dream of seeing our favorite books being adapted to movies or tv shows and we have way too high expectations for them. but the thing is, it is extremely hard to make a perfect and faithful adaptation, there's just too many things going on behind the scenes that we rarely even consider. but thank you for this video :)

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

It really is unbelievable that so many of these “ignore the source” have been a failure yet they keep doing it. They don’t make any money and yet then we have book movies like Hunger Games that clearly keep most intact and make freaking bank. For an industry that mainly cares about profit, you’d think they would’ve put together this formula by now.

@XER606

9 ай бұрын

Although as the video points out, you still have films like The Shining, as well as Jurassic Park, Forrest Gump or Apocalypse Now which are drastically different from the books yet still considered master pieces regardless, is not that simple sadly

To be fair there already is a great TLOU movie, Children of Men

You deserve more, those videos have a really good quality.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Feel free to share it around on social media to help it grow!

This is a great video! Keep up the good work.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Really interesting as usual. I always thought about length of book vs length of movie with adaptions but never really thought about these other factors. I know my husband is interested to see how The Wheel of Time series will turn out. He's excited but is usually disappointed by what they do to his favorite books lol. Anyway great job Ben!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm hopeful for the Wheel of Time series as well.

Wow. This is an amazing video and I really appropriate you talking about the difficulty of adaptations. My one disagreement would be that "adaptations" should actually be considered "retellings". Battlestar Galactica 2004 is an adaptation of Battlestar Galactica 1978. Or another example that I am really enjoying as a hard core book fan is the Wheel of Time show. There is no way to translate ~11,000 pages into 64 hours of television so they don't even try. Instead they adapt the theme's and elements of the series in a way that translates to TV. This allows them to tell the same story but differently. This allows me as someone who reads the series every year to see where they are drawing inspiration for their story from but the ability to be surprised. I think what most people get wrong about adaptations is they cannot critically analyze stories. What is this story doing? What is this character doing? What is this scene doing?

I read the novel GONE GIRL and the short story IN THE TALL GRASS. While their film adaptations didn't have that many changes, I felt they flowed better as movies.

What was the creative part of Black Panther you referenced?

I really appreciate how this video acknowledges how in fact making an adaption is not as black & white or clear cut as "just be faithful" and explains how there's far more to the process, and how there's actually adaptations out there that on paper are faithful yet fail as movies, and there's others that are quite different from the original yet still great in their own unique way

I really appreciate this video, as it's something I think about often. You've given credence to things I've understood for years, but also given me things to think about. And I think you nail it at around 22:50, where you discuss how by capturing the heart and themes of a story, despite changing multiple things for a number of reasons, you craft a great adaptation. It's what makes the LotR and HP films work for me, and by not capturing the heart of a story you end up with something like the Witcher (in my opinion). Great vid. Will share around.

@Geekritique

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, you hammer the point home at the above time stamp very well throughout the rest of your video. Commented too early. Really liked it man!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate it!

Love this video. Enjoyed every minute of it.

Great video. Regarding video game adaptation point something I figured out as well, it never quite work unless inspired route like you said. Thats why Edge of Tomorrow (2014) or even Scott Pilgrim are touted as genuine video adaptations more than the actual adaptation's based on games due having an element that associated with video games. Live action anime adaptation will always miss the mark, as there's no benefit in translating into live action medium everything is downgrade from visuals, character expression, fights scenes, designs and length. Novels and complete books positive tradeoff is visuals or characters now coming to life.

Harry Potter fans has no rights to say it wasn't accurate. U should see PJO and Avatar The Last Airbender

Great analysis, this deserves much more views

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it, feel free to share with your friends!

This might be my favorite video about adaptation. Well done! Side note, was that moment with Mario Odyssey where you said, “lackluster,” a visual pun?

I have also been a voracious reader as soon as I had learned the art of reading. And I can understand the despair of true book lovers, while I also have difficulties to understand why directors frequently insist on changing so much for their movies . You are absolutely right, though: movies are products of many people, who are all different. This increases the chance that somewhere along the road something goes wrong. It's actually a miracle when really great movies emerge. That said, I am not a book lover but also a great movie fan, and therefore I can appreciate a great movie - even if it isn't necessarily a faithful adaptation of a book. My sister however who loves Tolkien's novels as much as I do, could never accept the LOTR movies because they weren't completely faithful to the books. Additional thought: did you during your reading sprees ever stray from fantasy novels? There are so many more books, and many of them have been eventually turned into movies! Have you ever seen 'Death In Venice " by Lucino Visconti? It might be one of the best adaptations of a literary work ever. Thomas Mann's main character Gustav Aschenbach is a successful writer who suffers from burn-out syndrome, while Visconti's main character is a burnt-out composer whose was inspired by the Viennese composer Gustav Mahler whose music is famously used for the soundtrack of the movie. This was a substantial but very clever move because in a movie the creativity of a composer can be presented easier than the works of a writer. But it also changes a very important aspect of the book: in the novel Gustav Aschenbach is Thomas Mann's alter ego, while Visconti's Gustav Aschenbach is modeled to a certain extent after Gustav Mahler. But while the result is a great movie, this change detracts from the book, because Thomas Mann was completely different from Gustav Mahler. Thomas Mann was bisexual, and although he never actually had homosexual relationships, it shines through in his works. Gustav Mahler however was heterosexual and married to one of the most voracious men-consuming women ever - Alma Mahler-Gropius-Werfel, who collected famous men like trophies 😉

how can such a great channel more than 1h after upload only have 1000 views? That shit's brilliant

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Feel free to share it around!

I think the Hunger Games worked so well because it was about a TV show, and in the movie we got to see it as a TV show. It also had great actors of course. Nice video!

It's a case by case basis. You've got the good ones like Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, then you've got Artemis Fowl and almost any comic book adaptation ever made

I wonder why this happens so much? So many adaptations fail (like Artemis fowl and the hobbit) and have horrible reputations yet they keep getting made. You'd think they'd learn.

This channel is so underrated.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I totally agree! I think it definitely has to do with personal interest of the director in the source material as well, e.g one big reason why the Lotr films were such amazing adaptations was because Peter Jackson is a huge fan and wanted to make the films as accurate to the books as possible. Meanwhile I personally don't think the harry potter movies live up to the books in any way, a changing director basically every movie, some who hadn't even read the books or watched the prior movies... on the other hand there definitely are other movies I prefer to the books. Especially stanley kubrick, one of the best directors ever in my opinion, often made huge changes to the source material but the end result is amazing. Eg the shining, a clockwork orange etc.

I always look forward to your videos but never get a notification, despite having them turned on. Guess ill just have to manually check every few days lol.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Weird. I usually release Tuesdays at 2:00 if that helps! Got one coming out that time tomorrow

@f1aqq204

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow ive been watching your videos for over a year yet somehow never realized you usually upload on tuesdays. At least now i know so i wont miss them.

The Dark Tower movie was my first great adaptation disappointment. I went in eager to see what they would change but they ignored the heart of what made the characters who they were (especially Jake) and it broke my heart.

@keychainere

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes. I’d forgotten that one.

Eragon taking a several-month-long bit with Eragon raising/hiding Sapphira (one of my favorite parts of the whole series) and making it a 30 second cut is a damn tragedy.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Right?

Wonderful video, thanks for making it! One important (in my opinion) ommission: where's the Gaiman? Coraline - Amazing Stardust - OK, missing/changed some stuff Neverwhere - why????? Also, Neil Gaiman can generally be trusted to adapt very well. Cite: Princess Mononoke, Marvel's 1608, numerous Doctor Who episodes Wow, that got a bit off topic. Have a good rest of your internet browsing!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Ooo, that would have been great to touch on, hate it didn't occur to me!

Easy answer: 1. Screen time 2. Budget 3. Schedule 4. Rights and politics 1. Press a 500+ page within 2 hours, u have to compromise something 2. Most grand looks, effects and actors are very expensive 3.sometimea shooting all scenes or shots doesnt add up, sometimes availablity of crew or actirs limits production 4. Leagal issues, all from aging up characters, saftey, dodging specific portrayals of ethnic groups or national identity etc In the end, film is a product sold for a much larger range od audiences than books and therefor has also more people has stakes in the project. Lastly: everyone reads a book differently, many eays to interperate the text

Love this channel man hope you get bigger

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Feel free to spread the word by sharing the video on social media!

@Bruh-pg8dq

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always agree with what your saying basically, if your not my top movie guy then your defenitly up there

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Aw shucks, you're going to make me blush ☺ thanks!

@Bruh-pg8dq

3 жыл бұрын

Hahhaa

You should be an up and comer, and yet you have so few views. I hope this channel takes off, you had a many good points, you expressed your thesis eloquently and completely, and you have a good voice to listen to.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Feel free to share my stuff around on social media if you'd like to help me grow!

This is such a good video! I hope you‘ll go viral at some point. Some constructive criticism: I think you could make the outline of the video a bit clearer, for example by adding chapter markers with the individual points, like “Budget” or “Length”

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, feel free to share it around! And thanks, that's a good idea!

This video deserves more views. Great job.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Feel free to share it with your friends.

I recently saw the Harry Potter movies for the 1st time,and while they were by no means terrible,they left out lots and lots of material. I think since books and movies are two different mediums,the only solution is to adapt virtually everything or almost completely change the story and only borrow certain elements from the books.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Essentially, yeah

@geethau4676

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if the movies were about 4:30 hours long, they could have made them pretty much perfect. But of course, it's a movie. Hey, I just realised, what if they were a series. Each part is a season. That would be a perfect way to adapt any book series.

@XER606

9 ай бұрын

@@geethau4676 Well... this is now a certified monkey's paw moment

Thanks so much for briefly mentioning Mortal Engines! The Hungry City chronicles is my favorite book series of all time! I liked the movie but the books were a million times better! Predators Gold was my favorite of series. It would be cool to see a Predator's Gold movie but sadly that probably won't happen :(

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm heartbroken

Your channel is awesome! Keep it up.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@doublea1671

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow no problem man!

Love you channel Center Row 👍🏿

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Love your videos, you really go in-depth with your topics! I saw some clips of Robert Zemeckis in this video as well as clips from his adaptation of The Witches. How did you feel specifically about that adaptation?

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Love Zemeckis but feel he did a poor job with Witches

@colealbinder2980

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow Yeah I mean I love a lot of his earlier work (Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is one of my favorites) and this version had its moments but overall it could have been better. He’s been criticized for a while about how he uses too much CGI and how that CGI doesn’t always looks good-in the case of this film the effects aren’t great, not only with the scene you showed of the boy turning into the mouse but at the end when he’s an older mouse voiced by Chris Rock, it came off more creepy than charming. The original film accomplished so much with great puppetry and practical effects. Don’t get me wrong, CGI is great when it’s used well but it wasn’t used well by Zemeckis here. I remember Guillermo del Toro (who produced and co-wrote this new one) said early on that he wanted it to be fully stop-motion animated, which would have been great. Imagine him or Henry Selick and the animators at Laika doing this movie? The Grand High Witch could have been scarier than The Other Mother from Coraline.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, Selick would have been great!

The only movies that I believe are better than the books they are based on are • Who Framed Roger Rabbit • Fantastic Mr Fox • The Shawshank Redemption • Jurassic Park • The Godfather 1&2 And maybe Harry Potter and LOTR, I'm not quite sure about those two

@daniellado2523

3 жыл бұрын

Forrest Gump is another example I can think of.

@totoro5874

3 жыл бұрын

@@daniellado2523 I agree, it's much better than the book

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, great example!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

I'd agree on all those counts

Love your vids dude

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

This was incredibly inspirational as an aspiring filmmaker

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Good, glad to hear it!

This is shown exceptionally well in “Harry Potter: And The Goblet Of Fire”. Where they cut out huge parts of the book, in favor of giving Harry and Ron long hair. Or don’t forget that memorable scene of Dumbledore yelling at Harry for possibly putting his name in the Goblet Of Fire. Or even better, the majority of the maze section being taken out. I haven’t even read the book and I bet it’s WAYYYYY better than the movie, I mean c’mon if I haven’t read the book and I know about the inconsistencies and can think of all these things off the top of my head, what do you think someone who’s a true fan and has read all the books thinks about when they watch the movies? I guess I’ll never know.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

The book is about 100% better

@Nolkan

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow I don’t doubt it, anything is better than “Did you put your name in The Goblet Of Fire”!?!?

@Nolkan

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow also, good job on the video. I always like your videos!

@FantasticBeasts2024

3 жыл бұрын

The Harry Potter films are still solid overall and some of the better adaptations even if they are not perfect.

@Nolkan

3 жыл бұрын

@@FantasticBeasts2024 I’m not saying they’re the Star Wars sequels, they’re not bad. But, like all media and entertainment, the films aren’t perfect. Nothing should be, and nothing is.

Pog video. I saw the title, my immediate thought was of Percy Jackson, saw Percy Jackson in the thumbnail, inhaled so hard I choked.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Ha!

4:56 I jumped wtf

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that, some sort of glitch in the upload I did not notice until after publishing

That piano cue at 4:55 scared the shit outta me

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Apologies, somehow I didn't catch that glitch until it was already uploaded

This definitely makes me think about the upcoming DUNE film. After recently reading the 1st parts of the series I was absolutely pleased when they confirmed that the story would be put into more than 1 movie and take the time to flesh out the characters and plot!!!🙌

Who is the guy in the bow tie at 7:41? I know him from something but can't place him...

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

That's Solo from Solo

@t.rae.storyteller

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow Ohhhh that's right. Thank you!

Man, these videos are amazing

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@FrostyPhoenix62442

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow you're welcome, you deserve it

The Beastly film was disappointing to me. It missed the point of the book. A few movie adaptations that I stick stand on their own are: Ella Enchanted, The Princess Diaries, The Devil Wears Prada, Bridget Jones Diary, Coraline, The Secret Garden (1993), Bridge to Terabithia, Matilda, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Phantom Tolbooth, A Walk to Remember, and Hugo.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

I'd agree on both fronts!

I love w how you can literally create the greatest movies of all time (Shawshank, The Godfather) and people still say the book is better. Like you can’t get any better than this

The Heaven's Feel trilogy is doing the except same thing as Lord of The Rings as you stated in this video. I can't wait for part III.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Never heard of that one, I'll have to look into it!

That random piano chord scared the shit out of me

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Apologies, I watched the whole thing through, uploaded it, and then suddenly it was there and I couldn't fix it without taking the whole video down

@KyleRDent

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow Ahaha it's fine, it's my own fault for having my volume on the ear-bleeding level in the first place

What was up with the Piano at 4:55?

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Something weird with the audio, didn't notice it until after publishing.

I am consistently amazed at the quality of these videos and the lack of people watching

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it can be a bit discouraging at times what the algorithm does and does not decide to promote. Feel free to share it around!

Another issue with *movie* adaption specifically, and you might have pointed this out (I haven't finished the video yet unfortunately) is something that might be called "Compression". Movies are inherently relatively short stories and can't say everything in a book. This actually affects movie adaptions of video games quite a bit. Your average video game has a story structure that's pretty hard to fit into a movie and makes more sense for a TV Miniseries or a Book. For example, in Mega Man, the hero has to hunt down 6-8 robot masters and then take on Dr. Wily. This makes each Robot master a sort of self-contained story that's simply part of a larger arc. There's a notion that video games (generally) have too simplistic stories to be adapted, but that's not necessarily true even for games we don't think of as story-driven. For example, Mario has a plot comparable to a typical Disney Princess story, and it also has a developed a Phineas and Ferb-esque self aware humor about its formulaic nature. Doom, similarly, is basically Aliens. Donkey Kong Country is actually kind of interesting if you read between the lines of the level design. It starts in a familiar jungle that's been invaded by a foreign army. As they travel to where the enemies are staging their invasion, they come across increasingly alien terrains where they're more and more out of place, until they arrive at the enemy base: A factory that's destroying their island with pollution. It's an Environmentalist and Anti-Imperialist story, basically, kind of like Avatar or something. Though admittedly the cave world after the factory does break with this theme.

As a guy born in the early 2000s, one of my favourite books was Uglies, a YA science fiction novel similar to The Maze Runner and Divergent. When the YA supernatural genre started drying up they started adapting YA science fiction in the early 2010s such The Giver, Hunger Games, Enders Game, The Maze Runner and Divergent. I was really hoping for an Uglies adaptation because I was a fan of all these movies (Enders Game is my top favourite) but I was sadly dissappointed. Even to this day, when the YA sci-fi genre has been dead for a while, I still would see and Uglies adaptation.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

That would definitely be an interesting one!

And now I'm re-triggered about the Assassin's Creed movie. How could they take a property that had SO much cinematic potential thanks to its ability to set stories in any time period, throw in such a great cast and crew, and then make something so utterly dreadful?

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

It seriously astounds me

@jasonblalock4429

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow I would honestly argue for Assassin's Creed as being THE worst video game movie ever made. At least garbage like Alone in the Dark or Mortal Kombat Annihilation or Doom (either one) can still be drunkenly fun as campy bad movies. AC is outright irredeemable. A joyless, ugly, incoherent slog of a movie that's painful to sit through.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonblalock4429 That's a fair point

LOTR: cough Dark knight: why so serious

don't worry bro I believe your time in the spotlight will come back and you will gain a bigger consistent viewerbase

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks, it comes and goes in waves. Feel free to share my vids on social media if you'd like to help!

so many valid points love your vids

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate it!

There should be more short stories written. That would make the adaptations easier. Some authors can't control the length like Rowling, but Collins could write then short if she wanted to.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

More short stories is always a good thing!

I Am Legend is a great example of a movie that is in no way faithful to the source material, it doesn't even resemble it. It is just inspired by it and the end result was amazing.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, that would have been a great example!

I kinda preferred A Series of Unfortunate Events Netflix series that it's cinematic adaption. And I have faith in the upcoming new Percy Jackson series on Disney+, we'll see if fairs better than it's ill fated cinematic adaption.

give to Denis Villeneuve any book adaptations to direct a movie , and you will have an OSCAR nomination.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Right? I am hopeful!

The worst massacre of a book series by hollywood has got to be Seventh Son.

Very well said! I'm slightly surprised you didn't mention Jurassic Park, an adaptation that changes significant amounts of material from the original and managed to come out as one of the most legendary blockbusters of our time. Regardless, this was a great video!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

I thought about it, but like half the videos on this channel mention Jurassic Park and I don't want to just be the Jurassic Park guy

@Ghostboogers117

3 жыл бұрын

@@CenterRow well, in my friend group I am the Jurassic Park guy, so I'll check out more of your videos!

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yes!

An interesting topic to analyse would be book-into-game adaptations, which certainly seems to do better than book to film ones. For example, I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, Metro 2033, Roadside Picnic into S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and even loose adaptations like Spec Ops: The Line being heavily influenced by Hearts Of Darkness.

@CenterRow

3 жыл бұрын

Ooo, good thinking!