George's mistake wasn't failing to put in a time skip. It was failing to write the last two books while the series was on the air. That would have saved Game of Thrones.

@tylerdurden4129

10 ай бұрын

Heresy

@akaraniq

10 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter the writers hardly used a feast for crows or a dance of dragons, so the last two books he never wrote didn't do f all.

@redx4013

10 ай бұрын

He will probably never complete the books now that the show has ruined his work

@keanancupido

10 ай бұрын

True but GRRM confirmed that there would've been things happening in Kings Landing that couldn't be skipped

@gaigeschaal9070

10 ай бұрын

​@@redx4013That's ridiculous. The show is an adaptation, not the source themselves.

Hotpie could have spent that time becoming a Michelin star chef.

@brandocalrissian3294

9 ай бұрын

Dude, you think he talked about how to properly make a pie gravy before? Imagine how chatty he would be after spending 5 years perfecting it. The hottest pie.

@yaasupreme8080

Ай бұрын

Lol yea or the pies could used to serve at the royal weddings thus giving him access to the red keep on a regular or in the tyrell or dorne balls which later helps Arya in her pursuit of killing Marcella instead of the wife. She could’ve killed her at the birth of first born son for Cersei to witness as a masked man etc. so much man so much. This show could’ve been like greys anatomy with the seasons. It’s enthralling and the time skips gives so much more to the story lines bc we dk what we dk

@ditiromonaiwa8913

21 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Sam would've been far into his maester studies too, and we wouldn't have had to read all those Brienne chapters where she's just wandering about...

@aluardghirmai5010

10 ай бұрын

Lol what’s she like wandering around Like yk we never see characters in chill long moments. I’m curious

@ash-dl8ff

10 ай бұрын

@@aluardghirmai5010boring tbh. The Brienne chapters are LITERALLY just her wandering around, thinking about Jamie, asking people if they’ve seen Sansa, thinking about how she’s ugly.

@aluardghirmai5010

10 ай бұрын

@@ash-dl8ff so what is her whole vibe is hating herself. I like it in that it adds depth sorta kinda plain but yk at least there’s commitment

@coltonfagundes5755

10 ай бұрын

@@aluardghirmai5010 those were honestly my favorite chapters of feast for crows

@carterfriesen899

10 ай бұрын

@@coltonfagundes5755same here. Nimble dick chapters were awesome!

The moment George realised he made his characters too young and the political conflicts too fast but it was too late to fix it.

@Bella_The_Chef

10 ай бұрын

He made everyone far too young and it was most definitely on purpose

@Kate-rv6kx

10 ай бұрын

That's why we still don't have WoW

@Ruby.D

10 ай бұрын

@@Bella_The_Chef yeah but later he wanted some characters to be old enough to be able to do things for the plot, and they weren't old enough and he got stuck on how to make things work. Fair example is Ned Dayne. The most obvious difference from the show is that Drogon didn't have enough time to grow, but he still needs Daenerys to cross the narrow sea as soon as possible.

@Bella_The_Chef

10 ай бұрын

@@Kate-rv6kx winds of winter is never coming because he doesn’t care

@kendricklenox5672

10 ай бұрын

Life expectancy during the medieval times wasn't that high so people used to go through the most useful parts of there lives when they were still teenagers.

That would have given us some great storylines

@fazediamond5671

10 ай бұрын

Stannis plot line…..

@Dewrassd

10 ай бұрын

It wouldn't have made any sense. Which is why George didn't do it in the books

@FEEC-tm1mq

10 ай бұрын

@@Dewrassd yes exactly World of westeros is so happening from the days of the conqueror

I believe he said that there were two major reasons why a 5 year timskip wouldn't work in the end: The walkers and Cersei wouldn't spend 5 years rolling their thumbs

@aripeters2412

10 ай бұрын

I think the biggest reason was dorne. Because it wouldn’t make sense if the Dornish didn’t do anything after oberyn’s death for 5 years. And iron islands cause balon just died, but that had a plan with the rumored 150 page prologue that got scrapped

@ptatisen

10 ай бұрын

@@aripeters2412 fair point!

@StartTheJoust

10 ай бұрын

@@aripeters2412 I also think George specifically wanted to show the aftermath of the war. Cersei, Brienne and Jaime’s pov chapters bring nice insight. And a Feast for crows is my personal favourite of all the book titles lol

@aripeters2412

10 ай бұрын

@@StartTheJoust yeah that’s fair but I think that could have been explored with a 5 year gap with simple flashbacks similar to roberts rebellion memories. But it wouldn’t be as good as it’s done in AFFC

@Admiral-General_Aladeen

9 ай бұрын

​​​​​​​​@@aripeters2412thats just not true Because what Dorne is doing right now is like a 20 year long revenge plot for killing some of their relatives in Roberts rebellion it's one of Oberyns character flaws of waiting to long and not taking risks As for the Iron Islands Euron literally tries to become a god right now and is conqering in the south which takes time so him taking a coupe of years really isn't a problem

And Stannis? Is he just chilling at the Wall for 5 years?

@SpeedwagonZaidan

10 ай бұрын

That is one of the major reasons why George decided it wouldn't have worked, because Stannis and Cersi wouldn't wait 5 years to put their plans into motion.

@BrawnyStream

10 ай бұрын

@@SpeedwagonZaidan Yeah For Stannis and Cersei the time skip doesn’t work but honestly I kinda feel like George could have hand waved it away. Idk I think that the skip is so great for pretty much every other character that sacrifices could have been made.

@danurkresnamurti3598

10 ай бұрын

​@@SpeedwagonZaidanjust off screen

@EstellarLu

10 ай бұрын

@@BrawnyStream In the show, the reason why he moves out is to not be trapped by the winter. If the winter fell hard one night, he would have to stay at Castle Black as his army could not move in such weather, and certainly not battle. That would give him the opportunity to stay at the Wall and be there for some time without being unnatural for the character

@bobjoemac1

10 ай бұрын

And all the major political players sat around for 5 years doing nothing... yea George made the right choice. Hell Euron had already killed his brother by the end of the 3rd book... and people are already annoyed the white walkers didn't do much books 4/5... and they would have done literally nothing I'm 5 years.

It would not take Tyrion 5 years to make it to Mereen.

@archmaester6594

10 ай бұрын

He could have spend 5 years drinking all the wine in Pentos before moving to Meereen... Would also explain Jorah's desperation to kidnap him... or he could have spend the time teaching fAegon on Westeros

@bongodongo9229

10 ай бұрын

Hell look at his legs lmao, by the time tyrion enters the throne room after reaching the red keep there's been 2 new kings💀

@henriquegoncalvesdeoliveir1872

10 ай бұрын

He could be just not thinking in do nothing special. Just getting the best way of life in an alcoholic journey

@ginathecookie

10 ай бұрын

Maybe it took 4 years for Dany to agree to see him?

@cjsully4088

10 ай бұрын

He could have went to Mereen with Jorah and stayed in hiding until he got an audience with Daenerys

I reckon his biggest mistake was forgetting to finish the story.

@6tiple6ix6afia

16 күн бұрын

Can't be a mistake if he isn't done yet. He would have to die for it to have a final judgement. You can't say a ship never arrived if it is still en route. He objectively has no blame in the show's failure at the end. The writers CHOSE to eliminate main characters amd plot lines BEFORE they even reached ADWD, before they even reached Feast. If i wrote two books about a flood and the thkrd book about living on the ocean has not been written yet, it is not my fault if the person adapting my book decides to write about a eternal drought. Now it doesn't matter what i write about a ocean society. The adaptation ruined that for themselves. You can't leave a desert at season 4 and then season five starts and they are suddenly adapting my characters living on boats in an ocean world. They screwed themselves

@cheeseforeveryone

16 күн бұрын

@@6tiple6ix6afia maybe you should finish the books with that banging script you just wrote 😅

By that time the white walkers would have finished them all one by one

@aluardghirmai5010

10 ай бұрын

Well no they need to break the wall. I don’t think they would jsut stop but I mean they don’t have much of a choice to go much further

@incizor1273

10 ай бұрын

Before S7 I saw a lot of theories about them going around the wall by either using boats or walking on frozen water. Not to brag but I always thought the wall had to come down one way or another, it’s a centerpiece from the start of the show so I thought it would break somehow.

@abhishankpaul

10 ай бұрын

​@@incizor1273Euron would be the foolish d!€k to do that but there is no way Horn of Joramun would be made of Valyrian steel or have dragon embroidery or something if I am not wrong

@andyhx2

10 ай бұрын

The Wall probably has some magical properties that prevents Walkers to cross, climb or even walk or swim around it. I suspect there will be some plot with the horn of winter that is mentioned too much to not lead anywhere and someone will blow it and shatter the Wall and allow them to cross, afterwards - this could very well still be accomodated into the 5 year gap. It's Jon's death that is the problem - how do you want to revive Jon to accomodate the 5 year gap? Jon dies in DwD and then is magically alive 5 year later? Well, you can just not kill him, which would have made more sense for the show because it didn't really lead anywhere anyway - it would be too stupid and probably the least sensible for the gap out of all the other arcs, that along with Stannis and Theon and overall Northern arcs in general where they are pressured for time because their food is running low and dept to Iron Bank is due.

@jawstrock2215

10 ай бұрын

@@andyhx2 Jon's death means he can leave the Black without breaking his vow. He died, his watch has ended, he can thus go wherever he wants then.

That means Ramsey Bolton would be the Worden of the North for five years.

@hildaenjoyer8862

7 күн бұрын

The North would likely be fine, it’s ruled by Roose then not Ramsay and Roose was being a practical ruler. Unfortunate locals and any nobles unlucky enough to become their prisoner would be fucked but the situation isn’t too bleak

@Cam-jv7qy

7 күн бұрын

@@hildaenjoyer8862 huh, must have missed that. Been too long since I've read the books I get them mixed up with the show. Thank you for correcting me.

The only problem is that the GOT team didn’t have the writing chops to make any of these storylines work without the books as a guide, just like what happened without this time jump

@browniebot6143

9 ай бұрын

Yep, after season 4 it felt like they didnt know what they were doing and a lot of the characters just lost what made them so great.

@sophiastephannievvl8311

Ай бұрын

@@browniebot6143 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

@TheProdigy_916

27 күн бұрын

In their defense (not that I’m a fan of D&D by any means) it’s almost impossible to finish someone’s else’s story and not have it begin to sound and feel incredibly different. The only person who can finish the story is George. There’s not a director or screenplay writer out there that could’ve done it without him. Because it’s not their story.

All the more sad really considering HotD had multiple time jumps and it worked.

@krp6680

10 ай бұрын

Overall HoTD still sucked in later parts of 1st season. That whole Alicent vs Otto trying to catch Aegon was hilarious and that Rhaenys sheboss moment was absurd😂

@adamricard9410

10 ай бұрын

Did it work tho? …..did it?

@EstellarLu

10 ай бұрын

It worked, but they should've introduced some character bonding, like Rhaenyra and Strongs relationship a bit more before doing a timeskip. They did it so that the second season would be the start of the dance tho, so it is understandable. Would be awesome if they shoot 1-3 extra episodes for season one to just explore these characters a bit more and their relationship. Daemons adventures too, and his, rhaenyra and -i forgot her name, married to daemon- Their relationship had much more to it and couldve been explored too

@djole93podbara

10 ай бұрын

​@@EstellarLuit didn't work. Because nobody friggin cares about Rhaenyra's kids at all, nor for Hightower ones.. with the season ending with: "oh.. not that kid.. who is he again?" moment.. the only good character in the show is Daemon.

@ShorlanTanzo

10 ай бұрын

Ehh... did it work though? When they did the first time skip, going from "Oh no war is going to break out" to "Wow this war has been going raging for Years" you are going to sit there and tell me you weren't immensely disappointed at the lazy writing...

the reason why the last kingdom show worked so well was because it had quite a few time jumps both in between seasons and also within the seasons themselves. this allowed for the show to recontextualise events and was able to pace out the story in away that didn't feel rushed despite the jump ahead in time. the show decided to focus heavily on the mainline events and knew what irrelevant stuff from the books to cut. (there are things in a story that you don't need to see and you can get away with.) season 2 of the last kingdom had a 3 year timeskip half-way through and there is like 15 years in-between season 2 and 3 then another 5 years between 3 and 4 then 10 years between 4 and 5. with a massive 20 years in between season 5 and the Movie 7 kings must die (with Uhtred in his mid 80s) game of thrones should have done timeskips in-between seasons and allowed for it's story to breath and establish more permanency which would allow for way more breathing room for the writers.

@axelpicon4451

10 ай бұрын

the last kingdom books(13 total) encompass Uthred entire life from when ragnar the fearless first arrives all the way to when he’s an old man in his 70s-90s which rlly opened up the worldbuilding and character development

@prophetchosen862

10 ай бұрын

Too many events take place in the time of the first two books. For example, there is no way Stannis would be able to spend 5 years camped out at the wall. The Boltons would take him to field much sooner than that if it came to it. Anything regarding a Northern civil war, such as the manderleys betraying the Boltons would have already happened or would not happen at all, thus making it entirely “off screen”. Look how much power the Tyrells and their Banner-men achieved in the main series, does Cersei really want to give them five years to gain more?

@StoneCoolds

10 ай бұрын

GoT just devolved into a main stream show for the masses, wit princes and princesses flying in dragons, lots of action scenes with deux ex machima to "save at the las second", the masses love that, like when a plane falls into a mountain and out of nowhere appears climbing with drama music, the plebs love that!

@MzCheecharella

10 ай бұрын

The best show ever created: The Last Kingdom. I am forever a Game of Thrones fan. But. yep... GRRM stopped watching GOT for The Last Kingdom. Google it. Thanks for everything GRRM. Now, can you please finish the books? Really.. Please.

@justinlast2lastharder749

9 ай бұрын

Did it really though? That show started out good but got horrifically bad when they started doing Time Jumps to get out of writing themselves into a Corner. The only time Jump that made sense was the initial "here's Uthred the Kid and now Adults" jump.

And the Night King would have multiplied his army and fu**ed them up

instead, we have a 13 years book skip

The White Walkers would’ve breached the wall within 5 years. Stannis isn’t patient, and so even if waiting until Cersei’s power weakens, he’ll find a solution to take the Iron Throne sooner. With the way Cersei was ruling, the consequences of her stupidity would possibly literally topple onto her way sooner than 5 years. And who the hell knows what the Boltons and Greyjoys would be doing within that timeframe.

@brandocalrissian3294

9 ай бұрын

Also what would jaime and Brienne be doing? Do we really think Dany would sit in mereen for 5 years knowing that westeros is aware of her existence and plans to conquer? Too many plot lines would be butchered by a time jump.

@rebel1717

9 ай бұрын

@@brandocalrissian3294 Jaime and Brienne would probably be happy protecting any surviving Starks. Dany still has lots of problems to fix in Mareen, and Westeros has known about her existence for years now, and still didn’t do anything about it after Robert’s attempt to assassinate her.

All characters but Lannisters and Stannis would seemingly have benefited from this situation, but I'm still not sure if timeskip would be a good idea, since it would basically imply that nothing interesting has happened in those 5 years, which is a bit of a cop-out. Besides, the issue in later part of the series wasn't just the plot (in some cases it was) but the fact that pacing was all over the place.

@7PlayingWithFire7

10 ай бұрын

From what I've understood, George realized that there were too many interesting bits in between and that these would've been too many flashbacks, and conclusions spoiled. Stannis wouldn't have been allowed to sit and wait for 5 years at the wall with the Boltons ruling, not to mention the castles at the wall arent built to defend from invaders from the south.

@DaDunge

25 күн бұрын

The problem with them is that Stannis' men were all southerners, there's no way Cersei wouldn't have gone after their homes and families to get them to defect.

Political conflicts were going too fast meaning a 5 year time skip wouldn’t make sense

@brianmerritt5410

10 ай бұрын

I agree with this. WWII didn't have a 5 year time gap.

It’s VERY hard to do this when you have child & teenage actors though 💯

The cinematography of Faramir’s charge while Pippin sings, cut in with Denethor’s sloppy eating is so soul-crushing. 😢

Jon would’ve been a better strategist in the Battle of the Bastards and Euron Greyjoy could’ve been something better. And Shireen would be in her early teens and Gendry, Sansa, Bran, and Arya would grow to be adults and Sansa could’ve studied carefully under Littlefinger’s tutelage so that she can usurp him. Also, Dorne would be able to better plot against the Lannisters by having Trystane and Myrcella get married, secretly take out Cersei like how Joffrey was secretly taken out, and then the Crown establishes allies. Also, no need to impress Cersei with an undead

@JakeBaldwin1

8 ай бұрын

The show could've picked up with Euron killing the last Greyjoy pretender king with his elite mute marines.

I don’t normally agree with ideas to fix the show. But wow this actually sounds like a solid solution. Also if they focus on more detail from the books to draw things out. Great video ❤🙏🏼

Do you realize how hard that would be for the show, though? Characters like Varys might have been able to get by with make-up after only one year off of filming, but others like Arya could never look like they had aged a full five years in merely one year.

@attiepollard7847

9 ай бұрын

How about a year-and-a-half I say it three-year time skip? What do we bring in another actress to play arya?

Wow, that sounds amazing! Wish we got that time jump.

The Boltons would've attacked Stannis and Jon. White walkers would have attacked Bran. Brienne would be a wandering knight for 5 years.

Wow, I never really considered the time jump aspect, but you're right, I think it would have been the correct decision.

We're not taking out any floor sweeping montages. It is the law

And the white walkers could've spend that time building boats to sail to King's Landing.

What about the white walkers? Will they just wait and not attack? And Stannis wouldn’t wait either how his character is written. A year or 2 years of gap would’ve made sense but even then a bit of a long time on how the situation was left.

You mean in the show or in the books? I heard that he planned on making the series a coming of age thing where the main 5 (Bran, Dany, Tyrion, Jon & Arya) would grow a few years throughout the events but for whatever reason he changed his mind. And expecting D & D to do something spontaneous like that with their own brains would be a dumb expectation anyway.

@WritingGeekNL

9 ай бұрын

GRRM explained it in interviews and on his blog that a lot of storylines just wouldn't logically pause five years. Stannis, Ironborn, Dorne and the Lannister siblings wouldn't sit still for five years.

Tbh if he made it a year gap instead it could also work in many cases (Arya training for example) and it wouldn't be as bad as 5 years in other cases (Stannis for example). Even though 1 single year isn't that much, all characters would grow a bit older, dragons too... it could help a bit 🤷🏻‍♂️ He could also do multiple smaller one year jumps. But well 😅

@tallmidget1395

9 ай бұрын

Thats what i was thinking, cut it in half or make it like a year and a half or something 🤷🏽‍♂️

I'm very mixed on the 5-year time jump. I can see it working but it wouldn't have made sense to not having much happening for those 5 years. And if things were happening, we would want to see them unfold. Sure, I would want to see the characters aged up and more mature, but seeing them get there is more satisfying than just arriving there.

I could buy a 1 maybe 2 year timegap for all these good reasons, but 5 is too long. A conflict equal to WWII wouldn't hit stalemate for 5 years.

This would’ve been soooooo much better, Jon Snow as lord commander for 5 years, Sansa exploring with littlefinger like damn, the show really robbed us

Considering the show was literally at its peak after season 4 that would have been very unlikely the year off. Though a time jump could have helped adjusting the structure for afterwards

The night king would have had a couple extra years to grow his army as well :D

Not the finger hearts!! 🤣🤣

The timeskip works infinitely better in the show rather than the books

@brandocalrissian3294

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. It's not possible in the books without having multiple storyline make no sense.

this woulda been so good but also shoutout to u for knowing the term greenseer'

The best thing to do would have been making the situations of the characters that need the time jump unknown, leave it to imagination and set up the rest of things up, stannis and cersei for example and give a fresh start after 5 years in the timeline with major changes, leaving it to the audience to wonder what exactly took place and how it happened

The books suffer from ths. As it's clear he didn't have a good plan outside of the time skip. His excuse was "Well I would have to do a bunch of flashbacks to explain things". No, no you wouldn't. Just like the first book Game of Thrones didn't require a bunch of flashbacks. I think he just felt overwhelmed by character continuity. As all his characters would have to have grown over the 5 years and would be slightly different. And without having actually wrote about all their experiences he was having a difficult time coming to terms with it.

I imagine Tyrion just being a local drunk there

Well, more than five years passed in the show anyways. It was pointless to have a pause. TV doesn’t work that way.

I agree that this is a perfect part in the story for a time skip, but I also find time skips somewhat “cheapen” the storytelling. It’s impossible that nothing eventful would happen for 5 years to any of these characters, so it would feel a bit odd to suddenly come back to them and have to learn what happened and how they’ve changed without experiencing it.

Yes, I think the series would have been better if that five you gap existed. George was worried there would have been too many falshback. But the thing is , we didn't need all the gaps filled in. Just treat things as a sequel, and write how the characters interact with their new envinroment. We didn't need to know why things are the way they are. That can just be a bit of mystery. And he could have always released an accessory book that lists what happenes inbetween in point form.

I choose to believe that George is sitting on the last two books to release after his death. And he was counting on the downturn of the show to make people hungry for the real version and a completely redone series adaptation. His great grandchildren would be rolling in it

Myrcella going against her mother is a brilliant idea! Christ surprised nobody ever suggested it

I literally cannot think of a time that a time jump in a tv series was a good thing.

there was a problem, Stannis would never wait 5 years, the man was too impatient.

@mikew4022

9 ай бұрын

😅

Never liked the idea of 5 year skip, but would make in tv show. But they are so bad that probably would ruined somehow. HBO is just accelerating their tv shows, like Barry and Succession, they just want to force plot twist after plot twist, there is no more characters development...

The most important reason why a timeskip would be good is that the story is quite uninteresting after storm in comparison. Many characters are in a position of study and learning. Something we really don't need to see, also becoming a maester takes many years. Becoming a faceless probably takes a long time, either way since it's mysterious we don't need to see how Arya learns it.

: *those five years

She’s such a breath of fresh air! I really hope we get her back for 50!

He is not writing the books now right, i read somewhere that he won't be writing and completing the book coz he doesn't feel the motivation, he skipped this one and started writing another book on which house of dragons is based Like wtf man So eventually house of dragons will also have a rubbish seasons and an awful finale

Imagine Stannis just chilling at the Wall

@attiepollard7847

9 ай бұрын

Thats why its not possible. That man does not have the patience

@brandocalrissian3294

9 ай бұрын

​@@attiepollard7847same with Dany in mereeen. What would jaime and Brianne be doing? Do you really think the kingdoms would sit by for 5 years and let cersei drag the real into financial ruin? Also, 5 years is quite a long time for tyrion to be doing nothing except traveling to mereen to meet Dany. Too many plot lines would suffer from a time jump. The books are fantastic the way they are. The show sucked.

@attiepollard7847

9 ай бұрын

@@brandocalrissian3294 ok then how about a 2 or 3 year time jump? Also I don't know why dumb and dumber didn't do this meet Kevin Lannister the hand of the king with him having the same mean streak as his brother.

@JakeBaldwin1

8 ай бұрын

It would've been cool if he had been waging a more passive war against the Boltons using the wall as a base of operations, slowly getting the Northern houses on his side and creating a highly experienced, loyal, and professional army through harsh conditions and multiple small battles.

As Cletus once said in a Simpsons episode 'coulda but didn't'. I recall George RR Martin saying when he tried writing it like that all the characters ended up doing was having flashbacks so he gave up on the idea.

I mean, this would bring amazing development of all the storylines, but in the same way the world is so alive and dynamic, ots hard to imagine somebody of main heroes not dying behind the scenes or living through some absolutely traumatic experience, which could be displayed with flashbacks, but overall wouldn’t be so necessary

That would have actually saved the books more so than the TV show. The last two books were enormous but the story progressed about 10% in them. Almost all of the central characters are still where they were at the end of Book 3.

Man, that would have been amazing!

I wish George Martin would make a Game of thrones about the mad King. I think that would be interesting ❤

Myrcella becoming queen is gonna be a shock for Cersei and a way better plot for the prophecy of "a younger, more beautiful queen will cast you down".

And when did George state this? Before or after the rough draft/outline he gave Dan & Dave blew up? Because it sounds like he came up with this after the fact as it would have bought him time to finish his books. Books that still aren't finished 12 years later. Though I do agree a time gap would have fleshed things out better.

Yeah, and writers could’ve come up with something better But all these scenarios are United in the fact that it didn’t happen

i mean all of those happened in the books with a proper timeline and while not fucking it up

@hildaenjoyer8862

7 күн бұрын

It did fuck it up because it made the story too big to finish while a timeskip in the books could have landed far better ground work for the run in

@debodityamajumder357

7 күн бұрын

@@hildaenjoyer8862 i am pretty sure george while beginning the book didnt think it would get a series

This show is so addictive. I’m watching it over again and it’s amazing. Well except for the ending that’s to come. One of the best shows ever!! 💕💐

@raymondsims7042

9 ай бұрын

I agree Lass it’s good to see someone still giving game of thrones praise

Omg Theon had been tortured for 5 years with the timeskip😮

The only thing that wouldn’t make sense is it taking five years to get to Mereen, we’ve already seen that isn’t the case.

what would Jaime be doing

@brandocalrissian3294

9 ай бұрын

A time jump wouldn't work in the books for many of the plot lines, jaime included.

They should redo the last two seasons as an animated series with the original cast.

And we would still be sitting here waiting for Winds of Winter to be released. 🤷🏻‍♂️

The irony, a time skip would be bad book wise, but could’ve added more in the show

Didn't he skip the time skip himself and fucked himself up royally with that?

That idea works for some characters, like Arya and Bran, but it sounds like an awful idea for the others. In 5 years surely Margaery and Tommen would have wed and had 2 children, also we'd have to see how Cersei had been misruling the kingdoms for 5 years and what she did and how much Tommen did as king, it would have been a big shock to see Myrcella hsd crowned herself as queen somehow usurping her brother and mother. Sansa and Littlefinger making the Vale their own makes sense, aftrr Lysa died the lords of the vale seemed alright with littlefinger, but littlefinger was a lord who was always plotting something, either he would have married Sansa by now or done something else, hes too busy of a character to just forget for 5 years. Stannis also wouldnt man the castle for 5 years, hes not the nights watch, he would want to take winterfell sooner rather than later given that he had the men, he wouldnt leave the north under the boltons for 5 years. Also Jon had just defeated the wildings, do we assume he just has tormund as a prisoner fkr 5 years and never makes peace with them? Even the army of the dead would have done something by them. Also wtf would tyrion be doing for 5 years with varys until he gets to mereen. No i think overall its a bad idea

Winter is coming Wait five years more chilling at the wall with stannis

The show married Sansa to Ramsey.

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there would be nothing left of sansa after 5 years with ramsey

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In the books Ramsay marries her best friend jeyne pool who they are passing off as Arya.

Episode one coulda been a flashback of what happened in the 5 years. I wanted to see Tyrion and his dwarf friend putting on shows for money. And when he was a prisoner in that humongous man’s sideshow. 🚶🏾‍♂️

GRRM also says though, that the skip didnt work for some characters. Who were they? 🤔

it's too long of a time skip. cersei wouldn't just have been misruling, she wouldn't have sit idle doing nothing. she would've fucked it up way too fast. the time skip works for some aspects of the story but not with others. it mainly would've helped with the characters' ages (everyone is TOO young), but george would've had a lot of explaining about what went down during those 5 years.

Wow... It really looks like it would have worked.😊

All of them doing sum productive, while Tyrion is trynna get to Meereen in a 5 year time skip 💀

Naah too much gaps.. people would have still complained about the time jumps. People care more about how things unfold not about the result.

I truly believe when he decided to skip the 5 year gap, he couldn't figure out how to get to where he wants to be

The problem is the irl writing time skip he added in to replace the time skip in the books.

Littlefinger breed Sansa over and over in 5 years

And the white walkers taking their damn time to get to the wall.

Too much possibility for happiness(ish) Couldn't have that

Martin’s plan was probably to time skip through transitional periods of the plot, to spare the audience from slow pacing (Arya trains with the off screen, so you don’t have to read a whole book where her story moves slowly through an inevitable conclusion). But his concern was likely that this would force the next book to have a bunch of flashbacks to fill the gaps. Imagine if everyone in Dance with Dragons had to have Theon-style flashbacks to explain what they were doing during the time skip.

I think the big issue with the time skip was that, for a lot of characters, A Storm of Swords stopped in the wrong place and there would have been some pretty jarring shifts for Arya, Sam, and Bran at least.

That would have really made it so much better.

Wait, Stannis the Mannis would just man the Wall for 5 years against no enemy (the wildling army had already been broken), dwindling his numbers, while Ramsay consolidated the North and grew his numbers? Legit

That 5 year time skip would have been good, I saw the same with House of Dragon and it worked very well

And I could’ve become a doctor and finally my mom would be proud…

That would’ve been great! Too bad they can’t do a do over and pull a Dallas on everyone…you know that episode in which a whole season of Dallas never happened because it was just Pamela Barnes’ dream. It was known as Dream season or Dream Year.😅😅

Yeah, that sounds super cool.

George RR Martin wanted a timeskip? Sounds like he should've written it in the books!

Does anyone else think he looks like the Travelocity gnome?

GOT fans: TOO MUCH HAPPENS OFF SCREEN!!! Also GOT fans: WHY WASN’T THERE A FIVE YEAR TIME JUMP???

Whenever rob speaks I sometimes wish I was born without ears

And that's explain why the characters are so damn young in the books.