Who was the greatest leader in history? | Dan Carlin and Lex Fridman

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  • @motomav6964
    @motomav69643 жыл бұрын

    easy it’s Aragorn son of Arathorn

  • @ProjectLukeMurphy

    @ProjectLukeMurphy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gondor needs no king!....

  • @macaronisalad11

    @macaronisalad11

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ProjectLukeMurphy ISILDUUUUUUR!! !!

  • @ProjectLukeMurphy

    @ProjectLukeMurphy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@macaronisalad11 Aragorn? This is Isildur's heir?

  • @milomeredith1821

    @milomeredith1821

    3 жыл бұрын

    Easy

  • @bosmith1820

    @bosmith1820

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nope, like Carlin says Aragorn inherited the throne. Yes he had some bumps along the way, but he wasn't a truly self made man.

  • @G2tiger14
    @G2tiger143 жыл бұрын

    Alexander led from the front also and got injured all the time. While having the best army, he faced overwhelmingly lopsided odds with him having far less numbers than his enemies and still being able to remain undefeated in battle. His tactics are still being studied at military schools. Good point though on the analogy of starting on third base.

  • @ddwkc

    @ddwkc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah despite his great start, he is still deserves lot of credit as lot of leaders inherited a great empire and just can't keep it or even downright squander it. Not a put down to these leaders as it is a massive undertaking to follow up the steps of great leaders. Succession times were pretty unstable times, so I give credit to Alexander (and his mom) at keeping the great things his father had left and make something with it. Although outside his military achievements, he wasn't as great at administration. He didn't leave a clear successor in order to give his newly won empire a chance to stick together, so I consider this a bigger minus than having a great start. Again not a put down on him, as he died a little too premature. In this aspect I think a leader like Cyrus/Kūruš the Great (which Alexander probably respected) is more well rounded, for instance. Cyrus probably would be as studied if we had better records of his campaigns.

  • @G2tiger14

    @G2tiger14

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ddwkc very true. Supposedly his final words on who his kingdom should go to “were to the strongest” and we saw how that turned out. He was horribly sick and could barely speak at that point too. I believe his lands were divided by 3 of his generals. Most notably Ptolemy and his line got Egypt. Alexander actually had two sons, but they each died before reaching adulthood so they weren’t able to rule. I can’t remember if one or both got assassinated. He also died on the cusp of being 33 years old which I’m sure he wasn’t expecting. He wasn’t the best when his wars were over and was known for drunkenness and extreme anger including the burning of Persepolis. He has plans to start conquering again before he died and I’ll always wonder if he could still be as successful. He was also heavily into adopting and respecting another’s culture with his tendency towards Persian clothes and customs especially. His Greek peers thought it was a bit excessive, but he seemed surprisingly tolerant towards a lot of the people he conquered whether they be Persian, Egyptian, Indian, etc. Such an interesting guy and someone I’d consider one of the top five at the very least or top three shapers of history in the world.

  • @twyckoff87

    @twyckoff87

    3 жыл бұрын

    Phillip II so underrated

  • @kevincarrigan2798

    @kevincarrigan2798

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man the only B I received in speech class was the speech i did on Alexander. Not because it was bad....but because I went over by 12 minutes making it 18 minutes long! Haha. Such a fascinating time in history.

  • @hugomartinez536

    @hugomartinez536

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, people will always try to discredit. How many celebrities start a clothing line thinking it will be great and it sinks? You know what I mean? It doesn't mean shit if you start with a lot of money or powerful parents. It's actually harder because you have everything you need, and it becomes much more easy to loose motivation and drive.

  • @adamfrancourt8631
    @adamfrancourt8631 Жыл бұрын

    'Great men are often not good men' very apt quote looking broadly at history's most influential actors. It's also why, for me, Marcus Aurelius stands out from most historical figures. He was philosophical and introspective, but also responsible and pro active in his duty to the Roman people. Meditations provides an incredible insight in the daily thoughts of someone who tried, above all else, to keep himself on the truest path he could conceive of. He's still my personal hero. The fact that he allowed his sociopath of a son to succeed him is so irrational and ill conceived that it honestly allows me to relate to him more. Despite all of his virtues, he had biases and blind spots, like the rest of us. He gets my vote every day of the week. Great discussion.

  • @claytonroach1343

    @claytonroach1343

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude, couldn't agree more.

  • @Lycurgus1982

    @Lycurgus1982

    11 ай бұрын

    Let us not forget Publius Cornelius Scipio who brought Rome back from the brink in a masterful campaign that evolved the Roman army. Who along with being a great leader was also a philosopher and politician. In the end, although given every honor from Rome was deposed by the very state that he saved because he stood up to the corruption that he saw in the senate.

  • @mattlocked

    @mattlocked

    11 ай бұрын

    The scene in Gladiator when Marcus Aurelius says to his son " Your faults as a son are my failures as a father" perfectly illustrate this and turns the figure of Marcus Aurelius that much more human.

  • @ilikecommenting6849

    @ilikecommenting6849

    11 ай бұрын

    Marcus was too reasonable to be a great leader, as crazy as it sounds. His struggle to secure the outer border proves this. He wasted years of his life out on campaign because, essentially, he was soft and lacked killer instinct. The whole ordeal with his son also illustrates this. Marcus was a great thinker, but a poor leader. Put against Ceasar, in any relevant capacity of leadership, whether that be governance or military, and he would be no match. Smart enough to find the solution, not sharp enough to execute.

  • @ilikecommenting6849

    @ilikecommenting6849

    11 ай бұрын

    The fact that you can relate to marcus is a testament that he isn't a great leader. Can you relate to Alexander? Someone who conquered the entire know world. Can you conceive what he mustve been thinking? Probably not. Neither can I. So great, you cannot even imagine his thoughts.

  • @KingKing-cz6xh
    @KingKing-cz6xh11 ай бұрын

    I agree that Philip set the stage for Alexander but never in a million years would Philip have imagined going as far as Alexander did and being outnumbered in all his battles and a lot of them would’ve been lost if it wasn’t for Alexander’s strategic acumen and the loyalty he inspired in his soldiers

  • @PerfectSense77

    @PerfectSense77

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah I agree Carlin is too dismissive of Alexander. Plenty of people inherited fortunes and armies and screwed up entirely, it’s not as easy as he makes it out to be.

  • @mickrobertson4871

    @mickrobertson4871

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree was surprised that Philip was being touted as greater than Alexander.

  • @lordsotelo44_

    @lordsotelo44_

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mickrobertson4871cause he is, without Phillip there is no alexander, plain and simple, Phillip gave Alexander the best teachers at the time and brought him along battles, he gave Alexander everything to be great, and he used everything perfectly.

  • @mickrobertson4871

    @mickrobertson4871

    7 ай бұрын

    @@lordsotelo44_ he was great but he definitely never imagined what his son would go on to do. Especially with how young he passed away as well. True there is no Alexander without his father but Alexander definitely eclipsed his father's legacy.

  • @lordsotelo44_

    @lordsotelo44_

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mickrobertson4871 well he did actually imagine it, he was the one who planned the campaign into persia, he never had the chance to actually do so obviously because he wanted to make sure his kingdom was absolutely stable before leaving to anatolia and beyond. He was an ample leader/general and with alexander beside him he could’ve absolutely taken the Persian empire and maybe more.

  • @Joey-zy4cs
    @Joey-zy4cs3 жыл бұрын

    These guys need to do a podcast every month. The chemistry is perfect

  • @screamsinagasmask

    @screamsinagasmask

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never thought it like that but dam you are right!

  • @Saint5oldier

    @Saint5oldier

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the 19th century ruler of the Sikh Empire in India, has beaten competition from around the world to be named the "Greatest Leader of All Time" in a poll conducted by ‘BBC World Histories Magazine'. Over 5,000 readers voted in the poll. Polling more than 38 per cent of the vote, Singh was praised for creating a new tolerant empire

  • @aidanhammer6968

    @aidanhammer6968

    3 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree! I also loved some other conversations such as; Michael Malice and him have a good(albeit awkward) back and forth and they challenge each other is seemingly comical and enlightening at the same time.

  • @ssraghavan1956

    @ssraghavan1956

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why ignore Lincoln?

  • @hihosilencemeviolateme949

    @hihosilencemeviolateme949

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ssraghavan1956 the union was torn apart by his presidency and wasn't restored in his lifetime.

  • @jamesber722
    @jamesber7223 жыл бұрын

    Skip Bayless would have said Michael Jordan.

  • @rf2642

    @rf2642

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bayless is pathetic

  • @benweagle23

    @benweagle23

    3 жыл бұрын

    And he wouldn't be wrong

  • @jamesber722

    @jamesber722

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benweagle23 I'm sure the Bobcats agree with you.

  • @kennymccormick9292

    @kennymccormick9292

    3 жыл бұрын

    Theres only ONE KING JAMES

  • @QualityQman

    @QualityQman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depends on how he's feeling about Lebron James that day.

  • @AstroSully
    @AstroSully7 ай бұрын

    Never get why Cyrus never gets mentioned in these type of discussions. Literally did what Alex did but actually ruled an empire for a longer period and a left a stronger lasting foundation and legacy for the empire he started.

  • @NavShay

    @NavShay

    5 ай бұрын

    There is unfortunately an anti-eastern agenda when it comes to history. Cyrus The Great is the only leader in history that literally has the Great in his name rightfully. Just look at how they made a movie about the savages of Sparta and how they depicted Xerxes, Cyrus’s grandson. Persians were the civilized people and Europeans were the savages. This fact really bothers the west so they blatantly plagiarize the history.

  • @KyriosHeptagrammaton

    @KyriosHeptagrammaton

    3 ай бұрын

    King of Kings might still be my favourite Hardcore History

  • @kamyarhaghani8153

    @kamyarhaghani8153

    Ай бұрын

    Religous reasons. Iranians stood for some firm beliefs and moral values, greeks didnt.

  • @dylan112588

    @dylan112588

    Ай бұрын

    To be fair, Cyrus lived til he was 70, Alexander died at 32.

  • @MrPosterino

    @MrPosterino

    Ай бұрын

    The great

  • @JM-wf2to
    @JM-wf2to11 ай бұрын

    Dan Carlin got me through some seriously long drives to and from work and college back in the day. Hardcore history is one of the best things ever made.

  • @goldnarms435

    @goldnarms435

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes!!!

  • @patrickhemus8102

    @patrickhemus8102

    5 ай бұрын

    For real!!

  • @alexsupremewolf

    @alexsupremewolf

    3 ай бұрын

    He’s an idiot

  • @timlynch8749
    @timlynch87492 жыл бұрын

    Aurelian is so underrated. Dude restored the entire Roman empire. Taking back lost provinces one by one

  • @martinconway8174

    @martinconway8174

    Жыл бұрын

    Trouble was, he was killed because his own men feared his wrath. The officers were mistaken, but to them they thought that being fired would also mean their deaths. Aurelian geographically reunited the empire, but couldn’t unit all his men under him

  • @skindred1888

    @skindred1888

    Жыл бұрын

    Not plugging, more just being friendly. simon scarrow books are great on the Roman empire fiction if you have time for it

  • @nathanammon4021

    @nathanammon4021

    Жыл бұрын

    Who never heard of him I thought all the commanders were at each other’s throats at one point

  • @lebronjamesharden3958

    @lebronjamesharden3958

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martinconway8174 no one does

  • @MoejiiOsmanTV

    @MoejiiOsmanTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Alexander the great and Hannibal are the greatest generals/leaders of all time.

  • @brodocassel
    @brodocassel3 жыл бұрын

    Napoleon was a self made emperor.

  • @Saint5oldier

    @Saint5oldier

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the 19th century ruler of the Sikh Empire in India, has beaten competition from around the world to be named the "Greatest Leader of All Time" in a poll conducted by ‘BBC World Histories Magazine'. Over 5,000 readers voted in the poll. Polling more than 38 per cent of the vote, Singh was praised for creating a new tolerant empire

  • @Saint5oldier

    @Saint5oldier

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brodocassel 'self made ruler of an empire'

  • @irekttv7742

    @irekttv7742

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brodocassel napoleon who?

  • @irekttv7742

    @irekttv7742

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brodocassel likewise

  • @vincentlucic4004

    @vincentlucic4004

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Hades the great edgy

  • @jagseerbrar8447
    @jagseerbrar844711 ай бұрын

    It’s Ranjit Singh “Maharaja of Sikh Empire”, Started in the battle field at age of 10, Became Maharaja at 21, He brought small Sikh confederacies together and kept them together, British empire never attacked Sikh empire until he died, they ruled 80% of Muslim population with only 10% Sikhs, won and commanded the place known for its great resistance till now “Afghanistan”. In a poll held by BBC world in 2020 he was named the greatest leader of all time. He also maintain ethics and values during wars always protected kids, women and the elderly. But west don’t want to admit it, because it’s not a fancy Greek name.

  • @peterthesneakybastar
    @peterthesneakybastar9 ай бұрын

    There’s a good reason the Romans had so much respect for Alexander. He has the best ratio of victories of all time with 22 wins and 0 losses conquering up to 40% the world’s population. He didn’t even get a chance to rule from home, and yet he brilliantly adopted the customs of the cultures he conquered to become more accepted, becoming the pharaoh of Egypt, king of Persia, etc. while also hellenizing the known world. He founded over a dozen cities and several important trade routes that basically connected the West to India and China, and founded what would become the largest metropolis of the world at the time (Alexandria) all in 6 years. He didn’t even get the chance to a secure a long lasting empire, and still, many historians argue that his legacy is unmatched.

  • @matthewt3815
    @matthewt38153 жыл бұрын

    Dan's voice is perfect for his podcast. He is an amazing storyteller.

  • @Enahseladsit

    @Enahseladsit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve said that again....and again....and again.....and again....to all my friends

  • @jonesss8478

    @jonesss8478

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Enahseladsit end quote

  • @felixmidas3245

    @felixmidas3245

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Enahseladsit I think he sounds really stupid. He's so slow too.

  • @B___848

    @B___848

    Жыл бұрын

    His voice IS his podcast… lol

  • @anismoc27
    @anismoc273 жыл бұрын

    Khan grew up outside the village with his mother. Down by the river

  • @itsnicetoseeyou

    @itsnicetoseeyou

    3 жыл бұрын

    In a van

  • @u.v.s.5583

    @u.v.s.5583

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@itsnicetoseeyou It was a caravan.

  • @TheBilguunbb

    @TheBilguunbb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Village is so not Mongolian

  • @beejcarson

    @beejcarson

    2 жыл бұрын

    In a yurt down by the river

  • @deanmoore4726

    @deanmoore4726

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or so the germans would have u believe

  • @LY3355
    @LY33555 ай бұрын

    Love the nuances mentioned, and how delving deep into history provides great context to the simple narratives that at times get passed down!

  • @dougseymour8528
    @dougseymour8528 Жыл бұрын

    How does Noone mention Marcus!? A man from humble beginnings, arguably the most powerful leader ever. And ruled with duality. Fierce leader with empathy and compassion

  • @adamfrancourt8631

    @adamfrancourt8631

    Жыл бұрын

    I second Marcus personally. Meditations and his perspectives within have been shaping my life for years, and likely will for the rest of my life. An amazing man

  • @KJBWorld

    @KJBWorld

    Жыл бұрын

    @@adamfrancourt8631 Meditations changed my life as well. Sadly, Commodus completely destroys the legacy of Marcus

  • @Hemlocksipper

    @Hemlocksipper

    10 ай бұрын

    He was a leader who wasn't considered inspirational until hundreds of years after his death. His own son didn't follow his teachings.

  • @jgvtc559

    @jgvtc559

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@KJBWorldI call bs put you in some destitute situations with no recourse and we'll see how well that bs stoicism works for ya

  • @KJBWorld

    @KJBWorld

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jgvtc559 Interestingly enough one of the principles of stoicism is controlling anger. I have been destitute and I have overcome.

  • @Fryepod3628
    @Fryepod36283 жыл бұрын

    Napleon Bonaparte did *a lot* as one human being. Basically created modern day Europe out the ashes of his empire. Yes, known military general but he also did *a lot* of administrative work. He also was never given anything other than a military school during revolutionary France as a privilege, other than that he pretty much conquered Europe and held it for awhile. I just don't believe fudealism would of been abolished as fast as it would across Europe without his actions whether directly or all the way up into the Russian Revolution with serfs. It was just so critical to common enlightenment. That said he still had all the bodies and blunders of any man in total power and it's always easier to discuss the pros when the deaths are basically too old and detached from today's reality.

  • @loganlabbe9767

    @loganlabbe9767

    Жыл бұрын

    All the bodies of the Napoleonic wars I do not believe are at the feet of Napoleon, theyre with the extended inbred royal family that controlled Europe. The war was between them and the common Frenchman, and that is quite a conflict. They were supposed to be omnipotent for so long, the wars were so bloody because Napoleon was so good, not because he was so vicious, it was the Royals that wouldnt leave france alone because they were afraid of the threat to their power.

  • @Blicero20

    @Blicero20

    Жыл бұрын

    The Emperor was obviously the greatest leader of all time

  • @motionpictures6629

    @motionpictures6629

    Жыл бұрын

    Napoleon was a Visconti on his mother's side, and the Viscontis are a subfamily of the Sforzas of Milan. Napoleon was a direct descendant of the guy Machiavelli made immortal in his book "The Prince". He was by far not the self-made man everybody thinks, especially when you realis that Napoleon become famous for pacifying northern Italy. Sforza Land.

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    Like him or not, Mohammed’s accomplishments are second to none. Started as an unknown orphan in the desert and in one way or another has influenced the world for the last 1450 years. He's litteraly effected every part of the world.

  • @SpaceMonkeyMDV

    @SpaceMonkeyMDV

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean you could say the same about Jesus or Genghis Khan

  • @leonbenj
    @leonbenj3 жыл бұрын

    Speaking about morals, a great leader and philosophy and no mention of Marcus Aurelius?

  • @totkop2156

    @totkop2156

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was looking for this. The others they mentioned were slaves to their ambition, Marcus truly was a good man

  • @BallyBoy95

    @BallyBoy95

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@totkop2156 "good man" is subjective. Even in his own words, to paraphrase, argue no more what a good man should be, just be one. Besides, Marcus Aurelius terrorised many Germanic tribes. Don't confuse his meditations for a reflection of his policy.

  • @totkop2156

    @totkop2156

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BallyBoy95 is the real kim jong un

  • @commonpeace5595

    @commonpeace5595

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@herbthompson8937 Actually he nominated Maximus Decimus Meridius

  • @Robinson8491

    @Robinson8491

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't he lose his empire?

  • @ernestoA.1999
    @ernestoA.1999 Жыл бұрын

    Napoleon Bonaparte is the greatest Rag to Richest story in human history, a boy born in an empoverished backwater island who became Emperor of most of Europe and was known as “ The Master of Europe”

  • @ulrichwentzel6327

    @ulrichwentzel6327

    8 ай бұрын

    Ghengis Khan, more so. That dude and his family were literally left on the plains to die when he was a child. From that to the Khan of the sea of grass is remarkable.

  • @ernestoA.1999

    @ernestoA.1999

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ulrichwentzel6327 you may say you like Gengis Kahn more but can’t say he’s story if more impressive , Bonaparte’s legacy and impact on the world was greater, the Civil code based for most constitutions toda, he’s responsible for the decline of both Spain and Portugal in the americas and the independence of their colonies , the German unification of 1871 began with Napoleon when united most of Germany into a single state, the Italian unification was inspired by the time he was President of Italy , Polish independence they have “Bonaparte “ in their national anthem , Egyptology or what we know today as Archeology began with Napoleon’s 1798 invasion of Egypt , do you know how we number houses today , even number on one side , uneven in the other , yes that was Napoleons idea .

  • @AstroSully

    @AstroSully

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ernestoA.1999Genghis’s impact was bigger. He was the catalyst to the Mongolian empire that lasted for centuries.

  • @ernestoA.1999

    @ernestoA.1999

    7 ай бұрын

    @@AstroSully Gengis was not a General , he was not a strategist nor was he ever in charge of Military operations , like Augustus he had others to do it for him because he was simply not a General. Khans army never faced a professional disciplined army like that of The French or Germans , they simply conquered people who have always been conquered by someone

  • @AstroSully

    @AstroSully

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ernestoA.1999 Yeah the question was leader. Who united the all the Mongol tribes? Genghis? Who was the founder of the Mongol Empire? Genghis. It all stemmed from his influence and decisions. The Mongols never faced disciplined armies? They literally defeated the most powerful empires in the world in that time? What are you on about? 😂

  • @andytodd9063
    @andytodd90639 ай бұрын

    Dan rules. Helped me through many hours of factory work.

  • @JamiePittsSCM
    @JamiePittsSCM3 жыл бұрын

    This was a great conversation. The whole session!

  • @saltyshackles5227
    @saltyshackles52272 жыл бұрын

    Hannibal of Carthage is my personal pick through feats. Imagine the face of the Romans seeing Elephants in the battlefield in their homeland or hearing of Hannibals victory at Cannae. He wiped out an entire generation of Romans, outnumbered approx 10:1. All this with no support from home or his political class.

  • @pablom-f8762

    @pablom-f8762

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get a copy of "Hannibal" by Gisbert Haefs. Best historical novel I ever read.

  • @dakotaslim

    @dakotaslim

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pablom-f8762 Was it translated to English? Can't find it in the usual places.

  • @jewbabydono

    @jewbabydono

    2 жыл бұрын

    Came here to say this!!! He doesn't get near enough respect, this man backed the greatest empire this world has ever seen, tf up

  • @Innovanisb

    @Innovanisb

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, the battle of cannae was a work of art, Rome should have capitulated after that battle, and by the standards of that time was considered completely defeated. Unfortunately for Hannibal he didn’t have the means to siege the city. Hannibal never lost a battle contrary to what historians pro Rome say, that he lost the battle of Zama in modern Tunisia. As you know history is written by the winners. The Romans hated him so much that they kept running after the man until his death even though he wasn’t a general anymore.

  • @bowedbat

    @bowedbat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dakotaslim me too

  • @comic6308
    @comic6308 Жыл бұрын

    Cyrus the Great, Aurelian, Hatshepsut and Ozymandias deserve some recognition and respect.

  • @axlefoxe
    @axlefoxe Жыл бұрын

    So glad he brought up the truth about Alexander, it's so seldom talked about but what his father built might have been the single greatest officer corps of all time.

  • @weefy117

    @weefy117

    8 ай бұрын

    It's true tht Alexander owes ALOT to what his father built, but dan is too dismissive of how excellently Alexander used it. There are many examples of people squandering the gifts they received in life. If Alexander wasnt as competent as he was, then he would have been killed or disposed of long before his death. The fact tht he not only used the army to its max potential, but tht he had the drive and ambition to go as far as he did starting at only 20 years old, makes him great.

  • @spookrockcity

    @spookrockcity

    4 ай бұрын

    @@weefy117 He was assassinated at a pretty young age so apparently he wasn't very competent at ruling.

  • @spookrockcity
    @spookrockcity Жыл бұрын

    Augustus Caesar easily. Only 4 years into his rule as first Roman Emperor, the dude created the longest period of peace and stability ever recorded in the Western hemisphere (200 years under the Pax Romana). This was achieved during the classical age; aka brutal antiquity. People don't realize how utterly *INSANE* an accomplishment like that truly is. He forged the empire after Caesar was assassinated and oversaw the golden age of the Romans. Warned against overexpansion, banished his THOT of a daughter, found Rome a city of brick and left her one of marble, etc... etc... We have a month named after the guy for crying out loud.

  • @ether23-23

    @ether23-23

    Жыл бұрын

    Wasn't he Julius Caesar's nephew?

  • @riomadrid7497

    @riomadrid7497

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok the western world the new world is hardly known ab or even looked into its history

  • @jacobking962

    @jacobking962

    Жыл бұрын

    Close, the correct answer is Julius

  • @imperiumgrim4717

    @imperiumgrim4717

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ether23-23 yes he is the nephew of Gaius Julius Ceasar

  • @tpower1912

    @tpower1912

    Жыл бұрын

    @MB Yeah. Similar situation to Philip and Alexander. Augustus was also a poor military man and often delegated command. But his political mind far outshone Julius's

  • @hugomartinez536
    @hugomartinez5363 жыл бұрын

    Dan, Alexander The Great fought the Persian empire at 21 years old and conquered the world at 30 years old. Even if he started with an army, the guy was able to outsmart anyone who tried to defeat him. Not to mention that he was fighting with his soldiers on the front lines.

  • @nickshinn354

    @nickshinn354

    3 жыл бұрын

    The amount of territory conquered and held by Alexander the Great was absolutely shit on by the amount conquered and held by Ghengis Khan, who by the way, had to form his own armies from absolute scratch.

  • @jaybar5100

    @jaybar5100

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes but he also had the greatest generals the world has put together up until Napoleon. His signature hammer and anvil tactic was adopted straight from his father.

  • @hugomartinez536

    @hugomartinez536

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaybar5100 whatever tactics they learn, in combat situations leaders take crucial decisions under high levels of stress. Even if they have the best tactic book, they can make bad decisions.

  • @jaybar5100

    @jaybar5100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hugomartinez536 so at what point do you compare him to someone like Caesar’s conquest of the Gauls. They both were handed absolutely superior armies compared to anyone else in the neighboring world and fought off higher armies. Caesar was the quintessential Tactician in real time battle even more so than Alexander

  • @thomeq

    @thomeq

    3 жыл бұрын

    He did not conquer the world. Why does everyone go along with that myth. He conquered the Persian territories and expanded those borders slightly into India. That's all. And no, it wasnt the 'known world' either. He wanted to conquer all of India, the Arabian peninsula, all of North Africa, all of Europe. There was a lot of the world left to conquer.

  • @tlaloc5260
    @tlaloc5260 Жыл бұрын

    Genguis Khan, simply because he’s one of the few conquerors in history that after his dead his empire didn’t fall, it became even more powerful because of the Pax Mongolica his son Toloui created because of his father’s will, it was perfected by his grandson Kublai…also his empire was the greatest of all time in terms of conquered land from all of China and Korea all the way to the plains of Hungary..

  • @unchiudaantv

    @unchiudaantv

    Жыл бұрын

    Where is his empire now ?

  • @Robert-xn3dc

    @Robert-xn3dc

    7 ай бұрын

    @@unchiudaantv The greatest monument on earth was built to try keep him out.

  • @vannilian2023

    @vannilian2023

    4 ай бұрын

    Genghis Khan is the greatest 🐐

  • @tlaloc5260

    @tlaloc5260

    4 ай бұрын

    @@unchiudaantv 😂

  • @bentdriver
    @bentdriverАй бұрын

    Two great leaders I would suggest are the British explorer and cartographer Captain James Cook (1728 - 1779) and the Scottish explorer John McDouall Stuart (1815-1866), both had subordinates who would always be the same men to return and travel with them on their journeys of explorations because of their leadership abilities.

  • @MikeJones-vb1me
    @MikeJones-vb1me2 жыл бұрын

    Dan Carlin is a treasure of our time. That man absolutely loves history and his enthusiasm is infectious.

  • @FNGPREPPER

    @FNGPREPPER

    10 ай бұрын

    I listen to him daily!

  • @lampad4549

    @lampad4549

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@FNGPREPPERyeah but it's clear he hasn't thought a lot of things true or makes very normie mistakes like alexander would have great no matter what.

  • @steelyknives6734

    @steelyknives6734

    6 ай бұрын

    @@lampad4549I understand your point however Dan always says he’s not an historian he’s a fan of history. I personally think Julius Caesar should be in the conversation but I’m not an historian either.

  • @oinn8003

    @oinn8003

    5 ай бұрын

    Nahhhh u all are doomed

  • @alexsupremewolf

    @alexsupremewolf

    3 ай бұрын

    He’s an idiot

  • @Cqinz
    @Cqinz3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see Dan Carlin and Mike Tyson go back and fourth about great leader/conquerors.

  • @IntraFinesse
    @IntraFinesse9 ай бұрын

    Dan is spot on about Alexander teh Great. His father (Philip 2) built an empire out of a weak besiged by enemies kingdom. He built up military, conducted the diplomacy, built the kingdom into the dominant power in the region. It would have been interesting to see what happened had he not been assasinated.

  • @dafcorleone
    @dafcorleone Жыл бұрын

    Great conversation 👌🏼

  • @ewoknips5154
    @ewoknips5154 Жыл бұрын

    I swear i could listen to Carlin speak for hours. Oh wait, i lisyen to his podcasts so i already do. He is the only person i can sit through a 5 hour podcast episode of consistently

  • @robertdeboyrie2976
    @robertdeboyrie2976 Жыл бұрын

    Napoleon from a purely battlefield perspective. The magnitude of his rise and amount of power at his apex while fighting multiple coalitions over a decade. Also, his career occurred recently enough to be scrutinized in a way that can’t be done with other popular answers to this question.

  • @arjanv45

    @arjanv45

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not only his battlefield achievements that are impressive. I heard a podcast recently in which he was called the architect of the Enlightenment. He fundamentally changed Europe, bringing Enlightenment values and building a new state model. Much of our European freedoms and rights find the origin in Napoleon. He has so much overlap with Julius Caesar. Both formidable battlefield commanders, but also statesmen with a profound and lasting impact on humanity.

  • @josemanuelvarelapuig5064

    @josemanuelvarelapuig5064

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arjanv45 napoleon built the structure on which many countries today function. Law, warfare, civic and social norms ect..

  • @scalesofleviathan9697

    @scalesofleviathan9697

    Жыл бұрын

    The most impressive aspect of Napoleon to me was how he stabilized a complete mess of a nation that had just undergone complete violent cultural upheaval with radical altering of its entire social structure. He did this without alienating most of the elites, but still managed to retain enormous support among the French citizenry, who hated the elites. Extremely rare to find someone who can achieve this balance. Most revolutions end up with complete victory of one of these groups, then the purges start. Instead, he not only brings political stability, he ends up leading this weakened and vulnerable country to rule almost all of continental Europe, albeit briefly. His influence was so great that the era is literally called the Napoleonic era.

  • @mohamedredaabdou495

    @mohamedredaabdou495

    11 ай бұрын

    Khalid in al Walid > Napoleon

  • @nbawinningtips

    @nbawinningtips

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@mohamedredaabdou495nobody heard lf him so it speaks for itself how big he was

  • @Rambo2point0
    @Rambo2point011 ай бұрын

    Vercingetorix has to be up on the list. He lost but somehow managed to amass that many tribal people

  • @darrensaquaticsworld
    @darrensaquaticsworld Жыл бұрын

    What is clearly missed here is that it is very difficult to get up in the morning to take over most of the known world when you are waking up in silk sheets. Whereas if you are waking up in the gutter, the motivation is very real and literal. These guys have a very American centric way of looking at what a great leader is.

  • @UnknownSend3r

    @UnknownSend3r

    9 ай бұрын

    It’s easy when you’re mother injects you with the proto-manifest-destiny serum from birth.

  • @bharathsf

    @bharathsf

    6 ай бұрын

    Exactly. From an Indian perspective, this is entirely western

  • @user-rp4bw1nw8d

    @user-rp4bw1nw8d

    3 ай бұрын

    Excellent point. Another take on this: He started off a millionaire at age 20 (third base to this clown) and ended up a trillionaire owner of the world about a dozen years later. Way less impressive than somebody who started from nothing and needed a lifetime to conquer a tiny fraction of what Alexander conquered in record time. These people are not thinking clearly. Alexander is like climbing mount everest and finding a 12 year old boy atop the mountain ahead of you. When did he find the time to train and perfect his skills? Start at age 20 and conquer the world by age 32.

  • @PolishBehemoth

    @PolishBehemoth

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@user-rp4bw1nw8dalexander didnt conquer the world. He had way less territory than gengis khans mongols, or the roman empire, or even russia. Secondly Alexander did not vuild upon what he conquered and his ebtire lands of gains broke apart after his supposed assassination.

  • @00oa4
    @00oa43 жыл бұрын

    One very underrated leader in history: Timoleon of Corinth. Look him up or read his plutarch biography. The guy single-handedly saved a city and island from internal tyranny and external threat of conquest, then established a government that led to decades of peace and prosperity until Rome came and conquered Syracuse.

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    Like him or not, Mohammed’s accomplishments are second to none. Started as an unknown orphan in the desert and in one way or another has influenced the world for the last 1450 years. He's litteraly effected every part of the world.

  • @nirvanic3610

    @nirvanic3610

    Жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Timoleon himself a Tyrant?

  • @00oa4

    @00oa4

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nirvanic3610 define tyant. He was a great man

  • @nirvanic3610

    @nirvanic3610

    Жыл бұрын

    @@00oa4 he was an oligarch himself

  • @00oa4

    @00oa4

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nirvanic3610 just bc someone is high born doesn't mean they aren't a good man. Plutarch imp shows timoleon was a good man

  • @Darmesis
    @Darmesis3 жыл бұрын

    Really good stuff. Love both their podcasts 👍

  • @BigPicture2012
    @BigPicture2012 Жыл бұрын

    August Kubizek wrote an odd chapter in his fascinating book, The Young Hitler I Knew, and Hitler later affirmed it to be true. After seeing the opera Rienzi by Wagner, 16-year-old Hitler was so moved that he silently guided his friend to the highest peak in Linz and declared that he would receive a mandate from the German people to lead them. When Kubizek reminded him of the story, Hitler said, "Yes, in that hour it all began."

  • @cutdepiefails6596
    @cutdepiefails65968 ай бұрын

    Alexander did not kill his father, it's not on the character that every pov record had of him. His mother on other hand, with the divorce, with her ambition for his son, with her crazy, it's a lot more probable than his son, that at the very least just wanted to prove himself to his father and was actually accepted by his father. Very hard to do something like that in those conditions.

  • @nina1608
    @nina1608 Жыл бұрын

    I love listening to Dan Carlin - he made history come alive for me.

  • @MasterResolve
    @MasterResolve3 жыл бұрын

    Rogan has brought this era of media so much, it's unreal.

  • @Jc-si6pj

    @Jc-si6pj

    3 жыл бұрын

    He too was inspired by many

  • @BennyNegroFromQueens

    @BennyNegroFromQueens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Must be a kid. Smh.

  • @TheMightymolar

    @TheMightymolar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Um. No.

  • @whiteroseproject7207

    @whiteroseproject7207

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup.

  • @doglizards

    @doglizards

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...huh?

  • @Rifinyo.
    @Rifinyo. Жыл бұрын

    About 200 years ago Thomas Carlyle, political philosopher and unbiased historian of England, was courageous enough to frankly admit the fault of Europe for its contemptuous attitude towards the Prophet, in his famous book On Heroes, Hero-Worship, and the Heroic in History. He had not only dispelled the misgivings and medieval prejudices of his people about the Prophet of Islam, but highlighted his dignified person as a hero Prophet. Some of the amazing aspects of the Prophet’s life addressed by Carlyle are worthy of consideration. He begins by mentioning the state of the Arabs: “They were wild men, bursting ever and anon into quarrel, into all kinds of fierce sincerity; without right worth and manhood, no man could have commanded them. They called him Prophet, you say? Why, he stood there face to face with them; bare, not enshrined in any mystery; visibly clouting his own cloak, cobbling his own shoes; fighting, counseling, ordering in the midst of them: they must have seen what kind of a man he was. Let him be called what you like! No emperor with his tiaras was obeyed as this man in a cloak of his own clouting. During three-and-twenty years of rough actual trial. I find something of a veritable Hero necessary for that, of itself…” Carlyle further says: “Europe has begun now to sense the wisdom of Muhammad and has developed a passion for his religion. It will also come to exonerate Islamic doctrine from all the false accusations laid at its door by Europeans in the Middle Ages. The religion of Muhammad will be the system upon which peace and contentment will be founded. From his Philosophy, Europe will derive the solution to perplexities, problems and complexities . . . Many of my fellow countrymen and other Europeans venerate the teachings of Islam. Hence I confirm my prophecy by saying that the first stirrings of the age of European Islam are near, this is inevitable. Yes, the world today is in dire need of a man like Muhammad to solve its complex problems. Muhammad was abstemious and simple in his abode, his food and his drink and his clothing and in the rest of his life and conditions. His food consisted mainly of bread with dates and water. He often mended his own clothes. What could be more honorable than this? Hail Muhammad the Prophet of rough clothing and food, who strived, was active during the day and awake during the night and persistent in promoting the religion of Allah. He was not one to covet that which lesser men covet such as rank, empire and power. He is in truth the Prophet of the sublime morals. A silent great soul - one that who could not but be earnest, he was to kindle the world as the Maker of the world had ordered so. The lies which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man [Muhammad] are disgraceful to us only.” ¹(On Heroes, Hero-Worship, and the Heroic in History. Thomas Carlyle)

  • @dennismyl6686
    @dennismyl66865 ай бұрын

    Inheritance is one thing but turning it into something priceless that will live until the end of humanity, is something else.

  • @hhaaddiizzffaarr
    @hhaaddiizzffaarr2 жыл бұрын

    You can't talk about great leaders without Cyrus the Great- maybe we don't know too much about it, but his philosophy alone can put him on that stage.

  • @markdin2988

    @markdin2988

    2 жыл бұрын

    Trajan or Aurelian

  • @bennthirteen3701

    @bennthirteen3701

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amen, Cyrus is the greatest of them all, they should just read the history better and without any agenda.

  • @SG-jm7np

    @SG-jm7np

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love Miley Cyrus. She is indeed great.

  • @bardiamousapour

    @bardiamousapour

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SG-jm7np not surprised.Beacuse usa doesn’t have any history and American are horrible in history.there some bridges in Persia 5 times older than United States

  • @pakibluemannn

    @pakibluemannn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cyrus (Zulqarnain) has been hailed as the greatest leader in Quraan

  • @mikehink4062
    @mikehink40623 жыл бұрын

    Love listening to Carlin... both Dan and George.

  • @The_Enter_uno
    @The_Enter_uno Жыл бұрын

    Cesar. Or Gengis khan. What a great discussion. I love this topic

  • @acreyoungs8431
    @acreyoungs84318 ай бұрын

    Alexander conquered the whole persian fucking empire by the time he was 32, you can't downplay that even if he had inherited his kingship, no one at that time had the balls to do what he did against seemingly impossible odds

  • @dabbetul
    @dabbetul2 жыл бұрын

    “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.” Michael H. Hart, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History.

  • @siddharthdangi3143

    @siddharthdangi3143

    Жыл бұрын

    I am not a Muslim but that is so true. His achievements as a leader are almost unmatched in history

  • @munis002

    @munis002

    Жыл бұрын

    Here before all the hate comments roll in

  • @CameronGore4420

    @CameronGore4420

    Жыл бұрын

    He united the Arab world

  • @CameronGore4420

    @CameronGore4420

    Жыл бұрын

    @Adam Hazza Moses

  • @diogenes.

    @diogenes.

    Жыл бұрын

    Plus ,he did it all by himself ,from scratch ,set it 1400 years ago and still going .

  • @williamolliges2622
    @williamolliges26223 жыл бұрын

    I’ve also heard it said that the guy who originally makes the money wouldn’t be considered fit to attend dinner by his descendants.

  • @davidwebster5946
    @davidwebster594611 ай бұрын

    When you look at Ghengis Khan he probably achieved the most and did it from a very low starting point

  • @jonathanstafford3383
    @jonathanstafford338310 ай бұрын

    From my understanding Alexander was mortally wounded 7 times in battle on his journey east… arguably died every time and the idea of him kept the empire pushing east mostly because the average soldier wouldn’t of known wtf he looked like

  • @johnniejay
    @johnniejay2 жыл бұрын

    Its hard to look much beyond Subutai, the Mongol Dog of War. He defeated every adversary from the Mongolian Steppe to Hungary, establishing the largest continuous empire in human history in the process.

  • @johnniejay

    @johnniejay

    Жыл бұрын

    @Erqĭn Məmbetdjan 🇰🇿 Q̆iat Қыят No he wasn't. He was a Uriyangqai Mongol who was born and died in Mongolia.

  • @shabenton1274

    @shabenton1274

    Жыл бұрын

    Dog of war?

  • @johnniejay

    @johnniejay

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shabenton1274 Nope, most definately a God 😁

  • @shabenton1274

    @shabenton1274

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnniejay ahhh I always thought he was referred to as the dog of war, which ghengis referred him as.

  • @johnniejay

    @johnniejay

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shabenton1274 He was, it was a typo on my part in the OP 😂

  • @brianjoyce9040
    @brianjoyce90402 жыл бұрын

    Good questions to consider Lex, good info Dan. Very enjoyable

  • @mouseinthehouse_
    @mouseinthehouse_9 ай бұрын

    Alexander wasn’t born on third base. He started on first base in a world that thought only first base was possible. His leadership lead to the known world expanding to having two more bases to use in this baseball analogy. He died on third base which would be more appropriate to say, and nobody ever made it home until the British Empire.

  • @son_of_mxry
    @son_of_mxry8 ай бұрын

    The last topic was the most intriguing ..

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor2 жыл бұрын

    Tokugawa Ieyasu. Started out as a puppet of the Imagawa, then a hostage, then junior partner of Oda Nobunaga, took over his clan and fought the strongest Daimyo in his region (Shingen) to a stalemate, then became a junior partner of Toyotomi Hideyoshi, then took over the country by outfighting and undermining everyone arrayed against him. He is the very definition of strategic thinking, always playing the long game against the odds. He founded a strong and stable dynasty that lasted from 1615 to 1850.

  • @CarniTato
    @CarniTato Жыл бұрын

    Ghengis khan and the making of the modern world was an incredible book and made me a fan of his persona. Feels like he is a level above all the incredible leaders and conquerors.

  • @yaqubleis6311

    @yaqubleis6311

    Жыл бұрын

    Let’s compare history Iranic vs Mongolic I’m about to compare possibly the 2 best military commander , ruler and conqueror in all history Cyrus the Great and Genghis Khan Cyrus the Great turn the vassal Achaemenid kingdom of the Median Empire to the most powerful and largest Empire the world had yet seen he never lost any battle or war Cyrus the Great alone conquered more land than any Empire before him not ruler or commanders but EMPIRES for example Cyrus the Great conquered more and created more powerful empire all by himself than all kings of Neo-Babylonian Empire combined or all kings of Akkadian Empire combined or any other Empire before him and many after him that is just crazy also he was the founder of the fist hyperpower Empire in history and the first ruler to rule hyperpower Empire and according to many historians he was also the first ruler to rule the first superpower Empire in history Cyrus the Great conquered the most powerful kingdoms and Empires of is time he conquered most of them he also conquered the 3 most powerful Empire of is time Genghis Khan start with nothing but created one of the largest Empire in history definitely the largest in is time he conquered many kingdoms and Empire for example Jin dynasty, Qara Khitai and others he did lost some battle like Battle of Dalan Balzhat he had great military commanders like Subutai, Jebe and Muqali so who was better clearly Cyrus the Great is the winner just give one military commander as great as Subutai to Cyrus the Great you see the difference between them and also Cyrus the Great never lost he control more population he almost control 2 out 3 of known world in is time way more than Genghis Khan both conquered many states both conquered more than 5 states but Cyrus the Great Empire was solo hyperpower Empire of is time he won war against Arabs without no war and is son use the Arabs to conquered Egypt there was really no need for Cyrus to fight Arabs they knew better not to mess with Cyrus

  • @NalaNateNT

    @NalaNateNT

    Жыл бұрын

    Well we see you like women's rights

  • @NoName-xc6cg

    @NoName-xc6cg

    Жыл бұрын

    Your comment made me buy the ebook yesterday (I was already aware of it). I'm already at 30%, it's very interesting. So thanks!

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    Like him or not, Mohammed’s accomplishments are second to none. Started as an unknown orphan in the desert and in one way or another has influenced the world for the last 1450 years. He's litteraly effected every part of the world.

  • @NalaNateNT

    @NalaNateNT

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RUSure-jm9rp affected

  • @JP-jd5vz
    @JP-jd5vz9 ай бұрын

    Lex took a full minute to ask that question lmao

  • @stidland8623
    @stidland8623 Жыл бұрын

    Easily prophet mohammad peace be upon him

  • @vanidar21
    @vanidar21 Жыл бұрын

    chengis kahn stands out for me. He united the steppes and conquered more than anybody really.

  • @randylahey8174
    @randylahey8174 Жыл бұрын

    I'm no historian but saying that Philip was greater than Alexander is strange to me. Philip set the stage for Alexander by building and revolutionizing his military but what Alexander did was remarkable. One of the most interesting people from history and arguably the best leader.

  • @loganholly8401

    @loganholly8401

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. I love Philip, and I think he's incredibly underrated, but saying Alexander wasn't as great as him is wild. Philip tried to invade Persia and failed, Alexander did that and a million more. People were handed similar to Alexander and nobody has ever done what he's done. General, Soldier, Leader. The Great.

  • @wahedsnel7813

    @wahedsnel7813

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loganholly8401 did phillip make an attempt to invade persia? I thought he was assasinated before that

  • @loganholly8401

    @loganholly8401

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wahedsnel7813 You're totally right, don't know why I thought that. I think my point still stands on Alexander truly being the greatest of the greats, but I was wrong at that.

  • @wahedsnel7813

    @wahedsnel7813

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loganholly8401 no worries, has dan carlin done a series about Alexander too? i want to know more about him

  • @innosanto

    @innosanto

    Жыл бұрын

    What Phillip did was also Remarkable. Go read about the man.

  • @VictorKB96
    @VictorKB962 ай бұрын

    Napoleon would be a great example. Although he came from the local nobility of Corsica, he joined the army as an artilery man, he slowly ascended in the hierarchy. After doing so, he created a meritocratic system in the French burocracy so that people with talent from any background could have the social ascension he experimented

  • @NT-qj1sy
    @NT-qj1sy Жыл бұрын

    Bruh. Two of my favourite profs

  • @MentalHealthMMA
    @MentalHealthMMA2 жыл бұрын

    Lex: “Dam, what your opinion on Taco Tuesday?” Dan: “Alexander The Great!”

  • @airforcex9412
    @airforcex94122 жыл бұрын

    That’s impossible to answer. It’s like asking “who was the greatest genius?” No two individuals face exactly the same circumstances, history informs us, and even technology has a role. Terrible individuals can be great leaders…

  • @eyeofhorus1301

    @eyeofhorus1301

    2 жыл бұрын

    Incorrect, the answer is simple... Alexander the Great.

  • @airforcex9412

    @airforcex9412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eyeofhorus1301 Incorrect. Impossible to answer. Like I said. Period.

  • @nanashi2146

    @nanashi2146

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@airforcex9412 This is a good answer I think

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    Like him or not, Mohammed’s accomplishments are second to none. Started as an unknown orphan in the desert and in one way or another has influenced the world for the last 1450 years. He's litteraly effected every part of the world.

  • @lilvro7016

    @lilvro7016

    Жыл бұрын

    That an the fact that the only leaders we kno about are the ones recorded who tf rly knos what happened in the old days there’s prolly whole societies an civilizations wit great leaders we kno nun about

  • @mrEz87
    @mrEz875 ай бұрын

    Awesome perspective. Smart man!

  • @mrgaudy1954
    @mrgaudy1954 Жыл бұрын

    If taking all factors into account (including *lasting* legacy) it's hard to argue against Augusts Caesar.

  • @leeorrphotography
    @leeorrphotography3 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome stuff Lex. Thank you.

  • @alanespinosa9917
    @alanespinosa99173 жыл бұрын

    What about Pericles?? The guy established a democracy, expanded the athenian empire and highly developed arts & architecture. He accomplished 30 years of civilization flourishment

  • @mixedmartialmarxist

    @mixedmartialmarxist

    3 жыл бұрын

    Extremely underrated & educated pick! Well done👏🏽

  • @davyroger3773

    @davyroger3773

    2 жыл бұрын

    or perhaps his nephew alcibades

  • @Natural_law_lawyer

    @Natural_law_lawyer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davyroger3773 he was a chad

  • @Natural_law_lawyer

    @Natural_law_lawyer

    2 жыл бұрын

    overrated

  • @wajihbec1087
    @wajihbec10879 ай бұрын

    From a Military perspective, Khaled Ibn Al Walid deserves a mention.

  • @robpolaris5002
    @robpolaris50022 ай бұрын

    I’m surprised how little Alexander is mentioned in the comments. He may have inherited power, but to not only keep it and conquer the known world wasn’t handed to him.

  • @anandbenegal
    @anandbenegal3 жыл бұрын

    Lee Kuan Yew isn't a name that comes up too often but he was very reliable, and very good, for a very long time.

  • @Samborondon11

    @Samborondon11

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spot on

  • @jim26087

    @jim26087

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lee is my answer as well. He is probably the greatest "philosopher king" the world has known.

  • @termlimitscom8739

    @termlimitscom8739

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe.... his legacy is premature let’s see if it endures a couple millennia .

  • @stevenw2933

    @stevenw2933

    3 жыл бұрын

    certainly for a 20th century statesman and nation builder LKY is right up there with Ataturk and Deng Xiao Ping. But if the game is about all time great, he probably won't be ranked as high as Alexander, Genghis Khan or even a Caesar or Napoleon .

  • @kloschuessel773

    @kloschuessel773

    3 жыл бұрын

    The guy that build singapur?

  • @lordiboy69
    @lordiboy692 жыл бұрын

    Augustus has always been a personal favourite of mine, not quite self made due to being adopted by Julius at the last minute but while that gave him a step up and some legitimacy in the political world he could have easily failed and squandered that within a few months

  • @canartishow
    @canartishow Жыл бұрын

    Well here is my humble list as someone who for a longtime tried diving deep into history and matching the meanings of "Leader" , that would definitely be this : 1 - Mohammad (The Prophet) 2 - Anibaal Barca (Hannibal) The Carthagian 3 - Khalid Ibn Al-Walid 4 - Adolf Hitler (yes I know but just see how he made people gather around him) 5 - Julius Caesar ,and Napoleon

  • @Izznogood76
    @Izznogood76 Жыл бұрын

    Its obviously Napoleon, he beat all of the industrialized superpowers of his time

  • @JRose-dz1gf
    @JRose-dz1gf3 жыл бұрын

    Firstly, I always love listening to Dan's opinion on any subject, and secondly, Lex, would you please lineup your hairline in the front, my OCD can't take it lol.

  • @louis1681
    @louis1681 Жыл бұрын

    flavius aetius is a severely underrated general rome the foundation of western civilisation would have been nothing but a memory in the histories of the huns had it not been for him. who knows what life would be like now

  • @gamanima1
    @gamanima15 ай бұрын

    I think in some ways it’s more difficult to receive something that is great, then make it better Alexander did that. His preview was much greater than that of his fathers.

  • @maaduece5132
    @maaduece51322 жыл бұрын

    What's staggering about most of these military guys is how much they did in such a small time frame mostly quite young as well

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    Like him or not, Mohammed’s accomplishments are second to none. Started as an unknown orphan in the desert and in one way or another has influenced the world for the last 1450 years. He's litteraly effected every part of the world.

  • @Pondy33

    @Pondy33

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RUSure-jm9rpJesus hasn’t?

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pondy33 You are correct as great as he was "Jesus hasn't"

  • @Pondy33

    @Pondy33

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RUSure-jm9rp yeah I don’t think you’re correct on that at all

  • @fuegoBunni

    @fuegoBunni

    2 ай бұрын

    Jesus didn’t have to slaughter hundreds of thousands for his message to reach all corners of the globe 🙏🏽

  • @l.lawliet164
    @l.lawliet1642 жыл бұрын

    Gengis Khan no doubt... he makes one of the most large empires and evolve people's lives with tech and create excelent rules to make all that on top of that he have to go from the scratch and even be a slave... all that in just one live.

  • @jovincenspam

    @jovincenspam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes 100%

  • @JohnSmith-sm7ez

    @JohnSmith-sm7ez

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolute shite. Muhammad by a mile , he still has 1.9 billion followers. He’s still leading them now. The US Supreme Court considers him to be the greatest law maker in history. Started from nothing. Inherited nothing. Unbelievable how he won all his battles and bullshited about himself being a prophet of God. Absolute genius motivator, story teller, warlord, lawmaker…..

  • @pedropierre9594

    @pedropierre9594

    Жыл бұрын

    But he kept slaves, raped a lot, and looted a-lot, great war leader, not so great leader in all aspects of life

  • @WarWarWar4049

    @WarWarWar4049

    Жыл бұрын

    Right

  • @abdurrahmanqureshi3030

    @abdurrahmanqureshi3030

    Жыл бұрын

    Ghengis Khan conquered weak nations so it isn't anything impressive

  • @daltonblakemore3805
    @daltonblakemore38052 ай бұрын

    It always amazes me how people retain information like these guys can …

  • @lraoux
    @lraoux Жыл бұрын

    How did Napoleon Bonaparte not get brought up?

  • @kimi17171
    @kimi171712 жыл бұрын

    This is a very interesting question. I think you have to look at it with different perspectives. perspective of people who conquered and people who got conquered. Alexander in Persian books never has been called "the great". it's always Alexander or Alexander the Macedonian. because in their perspective he was the guy who burned down Persepolis. for me when I look at history, I always find it interesting when their enemies mention leaders or kings with respect. for example I always see that with Cyrus in different sources. a very unknown figure compare to Alexander. I think Alexander achievements are great. but if you wanna pick your guy you have to look at everything.

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    Like him or not, Mohammed’s accomplishments are second to none. Started as an unknown orphan in the desert and in one way or another has influenced the world for the last 1450 years. He's litteraly effected every part of the world.

  • @benjaminseng4271
    @benjaminseng42713 жыл бұрын

    A great leader makes leaders of those around them. Empowering without embittering, empowering through loving vitality.

  • @omranhashim1028

    @omranhashim1028

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fits the description of Muhammad and his companions. A group of Arabs from a small town in the middle of the desert had such a huge impact on the world. All led by one man who inspired the people around him to become the best version of themselves.

  • @shikharacc1543

    @shikharacc1543

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@omranhashim1028 if you have read the quran, you would know what kind of a grifter, schemer, liar and a overall bad person he was..but yeah sure..i can give you that he was a great warlord , very good at conquering his foes.

  • @omranhashim1028

    @omranhashim1028

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shikharacc1543 very odd, have you read the Quran cover to cover?

  • @shikharacc1543

    @shikharacc1543

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@omranhashim1028 yes, just finished reading it some days ago. I'm currently reading sahih-al-bukhari. Though I doubt I'm gonna read anything new that will change my opinion of him.

  • @omranhashim1028

    @omranhashim1028

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shikharacc1543 I’m surprised to hear you feel the same way after reading it. But then again this book does reflect what’s in the reader’s heart.

  • @chrisnettos4749
    @chrisnettos4749 Жыл бұрын

    Alexander the great may have inherited a great army but he made significant changes to how it fought even while his father was alive. He was solely responsible fir many of his father victories and his leadership won him many battles while being extremely outnumbered.

  • @TheRealTomahawk
    @TheRealTomahawk11 ай бұрын

    2:50 Alexander was great from a young age. He was brainwashed by his mother , taught by the greatest mind of the time (Aristotle who was also a Macedonian), was read up on all of the mythologies of his ancestors of Macedon, Greece, Babylon, and Herakles, Achilles, Dionysus, and Zeus, and the ancient Egyptian history, and of Troy and Homer, Telamachus, and Odysseus… 6:15 I heard Mike Tyson say that. 6:45 I love the Diogenes reference. “If I were not, Alexander I would be Diogenes. “ Diogenes replied, “ And if I were not Diogenes, I would be Diogenes too .. . 😉

  • @Lukas-oh8qm
    @Lukas-oh8qm3 жыл бұрын

    I love the studio set; authentic, relateable

  • @hitindahead

    @hitindahead

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rhettmelton lol

  • @ronaldjackson2290
    @ronaldjackson22902 жыл бұрын

    Salidin is one often overlooked in history.

  • @harrycallahan5018

    @harrycallahan5018

    3 ай бұрын

    He's honestly overrated if you really look at what he did and what happened after he died. If Baldwin lived, Saladin wouldn't have taken Jerusalem, and he wasn't able to defeat Richard the lion heart, who keep in mind had an army thousands of miles from his home in the ancient days, so his logistics were probably just a nightmare,and he was outnumbered, yet he still had a favorable peace with Saladin. He was a great leader, but Arabs often act like he was God walking on Earth.

  • @okidoki2479
    @okidoki24796 ай бұрын

    The greatest is George Castrioti Scanderbeg ,was taken as a hostage by Ottoman Empire from Albanian king when he was only 7 years old , was the best soldier and become general of Ottoman army then he abandoned ottoman and liberated Albania from Ottoman Empire and never lost a battle against Ottoman Empire until his death . He won 25 battles against Ottoman Empire over 20 years of his rain until his natural death . He got a title from the Pope as “ Athleta Christi “ as the protector of Christ , only two person got that title in history , him and Janus Hunyady of Hungary.

  • @Blake-om7cm
    @Blake-om7cm3 жыл бұрын

    Not an expert on Alexander the great but I'm pretty sure he wasn't just handed macedonia. From what I read he was disowned by his father when Phillip saw better alliance potential with another noble family and who's heir would be of more pure blood etc. Etc. Which would've left Alex sol. When Phillip was assassinated there were multiple factions fighting for the throne. It sounded like a bloodbath which Alexander ultimately won through assassinations and negotiations etc etc. A major concession he had to make was to let high ranking generals like parminio retain their power and have their sons retain it after them when Alexander would've preferred other trusted confidants in those positions. He was essentially handcuffed albeit to great military minds however being able to navigate those waters at such a young age is pretty remarkable I think he was like 18 or something. Correct me if I'm wrong history nerds.

  • @dwight2762

    @dwight2762

    Жыл бұрын

    Greatest leader my foot almost defeated by a small king in India ( Porus / Purushottam) , soldiers of his army fled when they came to know about the massive Nanda Dynasty ruling Indian Subcontinent at the time .

  • @innosanto

    @innosanto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dwight2762 you you like the India blcrap propaganda? It is ba Indian propaganda and by the way an army 11-12 years on expedition not an army that ate said goodbye to their woves and went for fight. The task of Alexander and that group of men was insane. Has not been repeated not even remotely. Not even Columbus compares. And to foght on top of that, and have the logistics, and the management of resources ando of people and rhe leadership, ans then the fights. Alex is on a league by himself. Even conceptualizing the task is great. It was not somewhere in history and is not since.

  • @dominusnox8231
    @dominusnox82313 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see he makes the distinction between being a good man and being good at being a man. Jack Donavon covers this well.

  • @mccalltrader
    @mccalltrader Жыл бұрын

    I disagree, many times in the battles of Alexander, the key piece to victory was his leadership and bravery..not just anyone could have done what he did..I agree, he inherited a great army, but he perfected the Cavalry charge, and only he could be who he became

  • @davidanderson6055
    @davidanderson6055 Жыл бұрын

    Dan Carlin is kind of the king of "WHO WOULD WIN, A SAMURAI OR A COMANCHE WARRIOR" history buffs

  • @klaudioabazi4478
    @klaudioabazi44782 жыл бұрын

    Leadership has a lot of qualities that combine in different situations to produce the intended result. - My teacher told me. For me personally, this is pretty difficult. Therefore, i prefer to divide them in different categories: For example,. Military Leadership i would have with no ranking Alexander, Hannibal, Caesar, Genghis Khan and Napoleon. For Political Leadership i would have Augustus, Lincoln, FDR, and for Inspirational Leadership i would have, Gandhi, MLK, Washington, and Mandela. I guess it's the best i can come up with. The more influences you have from every field the better lessons you can draw in times of need.

  • @daryllndemmayah4874

    @daryllndemmayah4874

    Жыл бұрын

    What about Grant, Scipio, garibaldi, Pericles, Trajan

  • @klaudioabazi4478

    @klaudioabazi4478

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daryllndemmayah4874 I didn't make a full list. But if i had to, like a top 25, they would be there.

  • @indamountains7953
    @indamountains79533 жыл бұрын

    Here’s a good read In Extremis Leadership: Leading As If Your Life Depended On It

  • @Saint5oldier

    @Saint5oldier

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the 19th century ruler of the Sikh Empire in India, has beaten competition from around the world to be named the "Greatest Leader of All Time" in a poll conducted by ‘BBC World Histories Magazine'. Over 5,000 readers voted in the poll. Polling more than 38 per cent of the vote, Singh was praised for creating a new tolerant empire

  • @MrDavidinho96

    @MrDavidinho96

    3 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it extreme ownership?

  • @taufiqgunawan4060
    @taufiqgunawan4060 Жыл бұрын

    Those men only lead people for better life. While there is someone that lead people for better life and so for afterlife.

  • @jaikumarjadhav6575
    @jaikumarjadhav6575 Жыл бұрын

    Augustus Caesar if you think restoration of empire But Alexander the Great if you think building from scratch.

  • @Tuathadana
    @Tuathadana3 жыл бұрын

    Behind your eloquent words is the phrase "has to be a killer."

  • @NDnf84
    @NDnf842 жыл бұрын

    The greatest story arc in the modern era is that of Napoleon. It's hard to compare with the ancient world when so much is uncertain.

  • @RUSure-jm9rp

    @RUSure-jm9rp

    Жыл бұрын

    Like him or not, Mohammed’s accomplishments are second to none. Started as an unknown orphan in the desert and in one way or another has influenced the world for the last 1450 years. He's litteraly effected every part of the world.

  • @Cleeboos

    @Cleeboos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RUSure-jm9rp he also fucked a kid, that wasn't great

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