WHO'S THE PREMIER LEAGUE'S GREATEST EVER MANAGER?
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On the latest episode of 888sport’s The Playlist, @RoryJenningsFootball, Steven McInnerney from @EsteemedKompany and Sam Morgan from @HardHitz debate the Top 5 managers in Premier League history, ranking Sir Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola, Arsene Wenger, Jose Mourinho and Jurgen Klopp.
00:51 Top 5s revealed
03:20 Is Wenger above Mourinho?
05:42 Is Klopp's impact bigger than Wenger's?
11:11 Is Sir Alex v Wenger the greatest PL manager rivalry?
13:32 Will Klopp win another PL title?
14:25 Could Pep Guardiola surpass Sir Alex?
18:22 Top 5s confirmed
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@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
1.fergie 2.pep 3.wenger (just) arsenal biased 4.Mourinho 5.klopp
Rory has Wenger and Arsenal so deep rent free in his brain it's an absolute joy to observe those delusions. The audacity to put Klopp ahead of Wenger, he truly despises everything about Arsenal lmao.
@Lucky-ll2cv
Жыл бұрын
Klopp is ahead of wenger, no UCL vs having a UCL 😂😂😂
@user-jj3xn5ms2i
Ай бұрын
Di Matteo has a champions league in England and Mourinho doesn’t so does that put Di Matteo above him?
Rory saying Wenger wasn't a nemesis to Sir Alex is criminal(Chealsea fan btw yes im crying for my club)
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
Fergie wenger biggest rivalry in pl history by far
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Yeh that was really strange😅😅
@dragonflame99k34
Жыл бұрын
He just wasn’t tho.He was threat for 2-3 years and then got fucked by sir alex for two decades
@uvongcukana5440
Жыл бұрын
He’s literally the manager that’s taken the most premiere leagues from wenger I don’t understand how he can possibly think that. That’s coming from a united fan
@michaelrowell7798
Жыл бұрын
Most of his views these days are bordering on irrational. Guess it's reflective of the state his club is in.
To be fair when Arsene Wenger was beating Ferguson Rory was watching Jody Morris and thinking corr...what a player
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
No serious and unbiased football fan would have Klopp over Wenger in terms of premier league impact.
@Trudon
Жыл бұрын
Agreed and I support liverpool
@IgnorantWeed
Жыл бұрын
I also support liverpool and agree, however all in all you cant ignore european success
@BlackChrishi
Жыл бұрын
@@IgnorantWeed which is not premier league impact.
@IgnorantWeed
Жыл бұрын
@@BlackChrishi which is why I said all in all
@MoejiiOsmanTV
Жыл бұрын
Which in case of European succes wenger never won but was domestically successful , ide change the title to best managers in English history
Putting wenger in 5th is disgraceful 🙈
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Yeh he’s 4th/3rd. Klopp is guaranteed 5th.
@syrkon27
Жыл бұрын
@@hellohi1445 He’s at least 3rd, to win a title unbeaten is the greatest achievement ever in english football according to Sir Alex Ferguson
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
@@syrkon27 I think it’s interchangeable between Jose and wenger. But tbh wenger has a stronger case.
As a Utd fan that saw that era, Arsenal were the big rivals
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@theach84
Жыл бұрын
They are all fouls for not putting wenger second. 3 Epl and the only invincible year. Legacy wise it’s wenger 2nd. Rory just hates Arsenal u should see the videos he use to make about Arteta
Rory put Liverpool accumulating 97 points and coming second as a better accomplishment than Arsenals invincibles 😂
@Jared7628
Жыл бұрын
the cl alone is enough although i would put wenger 4th
@benread1409
Жыл бұрын
He only won the cl coz they played spurs in the final. Not the best cl win let's be honest
@Jared7628
Жыл бұрын
@@benread1409 ahh we'll forget beating bayern, psg etc
Rory 'I grew up in north London and arsenal ruined my childhood' jennings, but yet now apparently all the achievements that ruined his childhood is irrelevant, alright mate.
After today, I'll never take Rory seriously ever again, He clearly has an agenda against Wenger and Arsenal. Arsene Wenger achieved the most yet spending the least amount of money, Revolutionalised football in England. 3 premier leagues and one of them he won unbeaten, Let's not forget that he won the other two league titles at Old Trafford and at White Hart Lane.
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
He has an issue with all the other london clubs no one man has pointed out chelsea 2 London 0 more times than rory 😂😂😂
@KaitoMinato
Жыл бұрын
How is he achieve the most? Last time i check he didnt win 14 EPL.
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
@Kaito he's achieved the most with the money he spent was the point heavily reduced spending still got top 4 almost every season won a handful of trophies
@KaitoMinato
Жыл бұрын
@@johannsmith8109 lol Wenger spend more and have a higher net spend than Fergie in his career and we know which one is the most successful manager in history 🤣
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
@@KaitoMinato wenger spent almost half what fergie spent 491 - 235
1. Fergie 2. Wenger 3. Pep 4. Mourinho 5. Klopp They're all brilliant managers, but Fergie and Wenger shaped the Premier League into what it is today. Without them two going toe to toe for the best part of 10 years, you wouldn't have the super competitive PL we have nowadays IMO.
Rory you have had a howler regarding Klopp and Wenger
1. Sir Alex 2. Guardiola 3. Mourinho 4. Wenger 5. Klopp Think that's fair. I you can swap Wenger and Jose tbh but the others are definitely in that position
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
100 percent I support arsenal and that's my list aswell if you swap wenger and mourinho
@anthonymccabe4322
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree
Fergie (record speaks for its self) Wenger ( Not only changed arsenal but the premier league ) Pep ( an evolution of what wenger did but with the relentlessness of fergie) Mourinho ( blockbuster ) Klopp ( raised a sleeping giant , although the drop off seasons impact his rating )
@mrhussain9008
Жыл бұрын
Pep changed English football as a whole. Wenger changed the culture at Arsenal and fitness around the league, that's it. Everyone tries to play like Man City in England, no one wanted to be Arsenal in the early 2000s. Man United were still the top dogs of British football at that time.
@areebsiddiqui758
Жыл бұрын
Pep is above Wenger now.
@richardhobson362
Жыл бұрын
agree with your order
@joellewilliams5852
Жыл бұрын
@Mr Hussain arsenal played the best football in the league by a mile everyone wanted to play that way , Few could . Not only changed the diet and fitness that the rest of the league followed suit, but he also brought in top young talents from Europe, which helped grow the premier leagues reputation . Him and fergie will always be above Pep because without them, the rest doesn't happen
@areebsiddiqui758
Жыл бұрын
@@joellewilliams5852 That's just not true though, Wenger might have pioneered it in the Premier League but even if not for him sports science and nutrition would always have made its way into the game. Maybe a few years later but it would have happened anyway. There is no such thing as good and bad football, only winning and not winning. Mourinho tore up the rule book almost instantly when he came to the Prem and forced even SAF to adapt and change, Wenger couldn't do that and paid the price.
Wenger disrespect has to stop. He’s 3rd for sure.
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Above Jose? Nah. Wenger been in the prem for way longer and yet Jose has the same amount of titles.
The Wenger wasn’t a nemesis to Fergie may actually be a worse shout than Haaland will flop.
@dragonflame99k34
Жыл бұрын
Oh shut up Wenger was only a threat for 2-3 years.
@harrycoughlin3410
Жыл бұрын
I assume you started watching football in 2010. Wenger joined arsenal in 1996 and from then until 2005 the league was pretty much just Man Utd vs Arsenal. The Chelski money and arsenals stadium meant the rivalry dwindled after that but Wenger vs Fergie made the premier league. There’s a reason some Utd fans hate arsenal more than they hate city and even Liverpool coz that’s what we all watched growing up. Jose only managed Chelsea for 5years and was sacked twice, it’s literally incomparable.
@matthewbotha7845
Жыл бұрын
@@dragonflame99k34 rubbish, it was 7 years '97-'04
Based on Rory’s logic mourinho in the champions league for a prem team was pitiful he has this hatred for wenger and Henry but sucks off an 11 goal a season drogba 😂
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
I support arsenal Drogba is the greatest big moment striker in english league history maybe even in Europe/World overall he didn't stack up goals on smaller teams Ronaldo cough cough 😂😂😂
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
@@johannsmith8109 doesn’t ronaldo have like 5 UCL final goals…
@dragonflame99k34
Жыл бұрын
@@hellohi1445 50% are pens
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
@@dragonflame99k34 no. Only one was a penalty.
There is no way people are putting Mourinho over Wenger lol
@jackendean5368
Жыл бұрын
Fergie, Pep, Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp
@BlackChrishi
Жыл бұрын
That's lofty for someone who thinks coming second to City is his greatest ever achievement.
@jackendean5368
Жыл бұрын
@@BlackChrishi what about his multiple premier leagues and champions league
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Seriously? Wenger has been in the premier league way longer than mourinho and yet has won the same amount of PL titles as Jose🤔🤔
@dragonflame99k34
Жыл бұрын
Mourihno literally caused wenger to have breakdowns in press conferences and in matches.What are you smoking 😂😂😂
Ranking premier league manager and talking about champions league… 😂😂😂
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
It's the only way to argue where pep and wenger go 🤣🤣🤣
1. SIR ALEX - for the longetivy and success 2. WENGER - for the golden PL 3. Pep - Domestic success and revolutionarizing football in England 4. MOURINHO - for his 3 PL 5. RANEIRI - against all tha odds Leicester
The Only Manager above Wenger is SAF. And Guardiola is still making his destiny, he may as well be the GOAT eventually. Any other opinion is absolutely null and void. Arsene changed the English football forever. The most beautiful teams in the World without spending anything.
rory with delusional takes week after week
Wenger also has more FA Cups than any manager and he not only went Invincible but has the longest unbeaten streak overall
Fergie and Wenger always on top. Those are the managers who shaped the Premier league. Wenger sacrificed his career to built the Emirates btw magical.
Happy to tell you that Rory is the type of guy who said haaland wil flop and then he said haaland shud win ballon d'or. So...😂
Someone should ask Rory to rank the best Arsenal managers in the past 10 years. 1. Emery *Head Explodes*
Klopp is the only manager praised for coming second 😂and won 1 league trophy
@barlj1
Жыл бұрын
Coming second with 97 and 92 points isn't the same as a typical second place tho is it. More points than any Ferguson or Wenger title winning season.
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
@@barlj1 razz I didn't think of it like that 😂😂😂
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
He had 3 seasons of 90+ points. That’s a hell of an achievement.
@kwandangidi8489
Жыл бұрын
@@barlj1 idc if he had a 100pts he still came second,if thats the case then klopp and pep are the greatest managers in EPL era
@kwandangidi8489
Жыл бұрын
Ofcourse points tally in the league will rise as football is getting more advanced but that doesn't mean he's a great cuz of it Football has evolved more now and comparing it with that logic is nonsensical Football today has more goals scored in a season that doesn't mean its better than the times of before We wouldn't say lewandoski is top 5 greats ahead of maradona simply cuz of stats but trophies are pivotal to ranking teams or players
Rory started to argue that klopp may win 2 more PL titles to catch up to wenger, even if that is the case, he's already answered his own question about who's better if he's implying klopp has to catch up to wenger. The only real argument in terms of positioning here is who out of mourinho and wenger, who both have 3 PL titles, comes 3rd and who comes 4th.
@ckdc2052
Жыл бұрын
Wenger easily tops Mourinho, fairplay he went to bigger clubs (inter and Madrid etc.) to broaden his career and trophies etc but PREMIER LEAGUE Wenger is easily ahead of jose if not JUST for his Longevity and resources he worked with its not a debate.
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
@CKDC it's only a debate because Henry forgot how to play football against barca 😢
@guilhermevieira6010
Жыл бұрын
Klopp won the champions league and made the finals 3x, liverpool 99 points team is better than any arsenal team.
@RapidThumbz
Жыл бұрын
@@guilhermevieira6010 why is it only Liverpool fans that at losing in a final when people talk about trophies
@guilhermevieira6010
Жыл бұрын
@@RapidThumbz what?
Rory's insecurity as a Chelsea fan really shows when he talks about Arsenal, especially in two area - overhyping European success (not just champions league) and the invincible season
"Do you know what nemesis means" - Bricktop
Honestly Wenger should be 3rd behind only Ferguson and Pep.
this is how u confirm that rory's arsenal videos are to feed his family
Rory just waffles. It's 1. Fergie 2. Pep 3. Wenger . . . . . . Huge gap . . . . . 4. Mourinho 5. Klopp
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Huge gap? Nah that’s so big big bullshit. At least hide ur bias 🤦♂️
@saiyerugara9038
10 ай бұрын
Huge gap when they both won 3. 😂😂
Lol Rory is a troll, lol. Arsene has 3 pl and 7 Fa clubs, which is a record for the most FA cups wins with no money to spend.
@johannsmith8109
Жыл бұрын
Back in the day arsenal had no money more recently we've dropped 70m on pepe 😳 Edit they had money just not utd/chelsea money
@allanpeters367
Жыл бұрын
@Johann Smith that was also not an Arsene signing. He had already left by then 😳
@City_Reuploaded
Жыл бұрын
You don't win any trophy win no money to spend. Forgot the FA Cup. 😂
1. Ferguson 2. Guardiola 3. Mourinho 4. Wenger 5. Klopp. This is always a difficult one because sometimes people take into account the champions league as well.
1.Sir Alex 2. Pep 3. Jose 4. Wenger 5. Klopp Hardest thing to do is retain the premier league and the only 3 mangers to ever do that is Sir Alex Pep and Jose
Mourinho over Wenger is laughable. Wenger has 3 league titles, 7 FA cups, kept Arsenal in the CL 20 years straight while spending pennys and selling his best players in 10 of those years. Mourinho comes in, spends a fortune, plays shit football, win some titles and leave the club in an absolute mess.
@lukebashian5591
Жыл бұрын
And surprise surprise Arsenal fan
@aasperheim7597
Жыл бұрын
@@lukebashian5591 true, but i dont see the argument for Mourinho over Wenger. Same amount of league titles. Mourinho has left clubs in dire state several times. Desember 2015, Chelsea in a relegation battle sitting 16th. December 2018, Man utd lower mid table. Falls out with several players. I don´t see the appeal at all
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Laughable? Wenger has been at arsenal for 20 years and yet has won the same as Jose mourinho. “Jose has left clubs in dire states” true. But he also literally created chelsea. And wasn’t Jose like 10+ games unbeaten when he went head to head with wenger? yeh he was.
@aasperheim7597
Жыл бұрын
@@hellohi1445 so that makes Pardew a better manager than Mourinho, since Pardew has a positive record against him? Come on. Mourinho came in and spent 200m£++ at a time when wenger was buying and selling at a net positive. Just imagine mourinho being put in Wengers shoes from 2006-2013, wouldnt even last a season. Not to mention the cultural impact wenger had on the english game as a whole. This aint even a contest. Fergie and Wenger are the 2 goats, Pep will join them in time
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
@@aasperheim7597 see now you’re just contradicting yourself. “Mourinho came in and spent 200 million that’s why wenger is better” But then u say “pep will join the GOATS of prem managers in time” FYI, pep is already up there lol. And “Jose put in wenger boots wouldn’t last a season” Except he was in those boots. He won a UCL with Porto and inter. Which is something wenger couldn’t even dream of. And anyways Jose spent a lot during chelsea yeh, but how many big name signings did he make? None. He bought carvalho from Porto cause why not and the others like drogba, robben cech weren’t big at the time. If Jose did this at arsenal, you’d be backing Jose.
You can tell SAF ruined all their childhoods 😂 I rate Pep, but he did spend 150M on RB's in his first 4 years.
2 fans of clubs who have never won European silverware brushing off Klopp's 1 league title, forgetting that the man has won every single trophy available to him. He might not be Sir Alex or Jose in his prime but don't disrespect what the man has achieved with what he had available to him.
Wenger 💯💯💯
Rory .. 🤣
Rory - "You're success is determined by how many trophies you win" Also rory - Klopp getting 97 points and finishing second is more impressive than the Invincibles. It's clear he's a very insecure person Arsenal - 48 trophies Chelsea - 32
Fergie's rate is 48%, Pep is at 66%, if he manages to win this year he will sit at 71%. Absolutely no doubt Pep is one of the greatest. 1. Fergie 2.Pep 3.Wenger(unbeaten season is literally impossible, no one is gonna have that)4.Mourinho 5.Klopp
@KaitoMinato
Жыл бұрын
Lol, Fergie take United when there are in relegation battle, not two years after they won the league like Pep.
When all is said and done. Wenger will look like he’s overrated. 22 seasons in PL. 3 PL trophies and 0 European Cup 🤔. Fergie 21 PL seasons. 13 PL trophies and 2 UCL. Now Pep 7 yrs. 4PL and could potentially win one more PL and/or UCL.
1. SAF 2. Pep 3. Wenger 4. Klopp 5. The special one That’s prem rankings imo But all time between the fives 1. Pep 2. Morinho 3. SAF 4. Klopp 5. Wenger
Cannot believe rory gets paid to talk about football 😂
Mourinho vs Wenger makes me think of BBC One's Special One TV. - The Voyeur!
SAF, Pep, Wenger, Klopp, José... Rory doesn't understand what it means to be a club manager. Arsene did 3 key things 1st Double, 2nd Invincible 3rd The Emirates Era. Srry but to sign a commitment letter to spend less on players and deliver Champions League consistency (and suffer the corruption to loose to Barcelona) make Wenger leagues above Klopp and Mourinho. Arsene transformed footballing culture in England.
1.Ferguson 2.Guardiola 3.Mourinho 4.Wenger 5.Klopp
Wenger easily tops Mourinho, fairplay he went to bigger clubs (inter and Madrid etc.) to broaden his career and trophies etc but PREMIER LEAGUE Wenger is easily ahead of jose if not JUST for his Longevity and resources he worked with its not a debate
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Longevity is great yeh but like wenger has 20 years in the prem and Jose still won the same amount of titles. Imo, Longevity shouldn’t count for that much otherwise James Milner > Yaya toure
@ckdc2052
Жыл бұрын
@@hellohi1445 James Milner > Yaya toure - comparing players to managers makes 0 sense
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
@@ckdc2052 James Milner has longer longevity but yaya toure has the same amount of titles. Just like wenger and Jose. Not the greatest examples but u know what I mean.
Sir Alex. Wenger. Klopp. Jose. Pep. Ratings are based on the managers' ability to build a club rather than buy a team. Chelsea continued to be Chelsea after Jose. City won titles before Pep and will continue to do so after him. Man Utd hasn't recovered from losing Sir Alex while Arsenal is just starting to look like a club again. I shudder at the thought of a Liverpool without Klopp.
Klopp very disrespected here. Two great teams can exist at once. The invincibles would’ve finished third vs Klopp LFC and Pep City. Klopps three highest point tallys are all higher than Wenger and Fergies highest ever tally… Wenger would’ve never ever beat this Pep team. Klopp would’ve picked up 3 PLs in any other Prem era.
1. SAF (by a big margin) 2. Wenger 3. Pep (slighty below Wenger) 4. Mou 5. Klopp
Wenger has more FA cups than all of klopp's trophies at liverpool Rory's hatred towards the best club in London is so transparent
@KaitoMinato
Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's a good argument considering Klopp win everything there is and the length of his tenure.
Mourinho only went head to head with Fergie in 05/06 In 04/05 united were way off it
Tell me one transfer that Pep did who was the best player on their position? Besides Haaland which incredible fee for a player like that tell me one player who is top 5 10 in their positions?
So winning a league being undefeated doesn't matter according to Sir Rory. Even being delusion has some limitations
Jose mourinho over wenger terrible take
Fergie Pep Wenger Mourinho Klopp
You know it's crazy when in a room of 3, Rory is making the most sense. Something I never thought I'd say.
SIR ALEX FERGUSON 1ST WENGER 2ND PEP 3RD KL0PP 4TH MOURINHO 5TH
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Pep has 4 PL’s. What more does he have to do😅😅
So a manager has an open cheque to buy any player he wants, yet is quick to park the bus at any opportunity but we should consider him greater than Arsene Wenger....... Rory, get a grip Smh
Please, if Chelsea won the league unbeaten, Rory would call it the greatest achievement in football
Mourinho a bigger nemesis to Ferguson than Wenger?! 😂😂😂😂 Come on Rory
1.Fergie 2.Pep 3.Jose 4.Wenger 5.Klopp
People don't seem 2 realise that Fergie got 7 titles in 9 years, and was 2 points away from winning 9 in a row. I always see people saying that Pep's 4 in 5 years is already an unmatched feat, which isn't true.
@KaitoMinato
Жыл бұрын
They need to put more respect on Fergie's name.
@sib1930
Жыл бұрын
Bob Paisley won 6 league titles in 8 years as Liverpool manager which is the best record
@young_raymond47
Жыл бұрын
@@sib1930 How is 6 in 8 better than 7 in 9?
I would put Wenger above Klopp as of now but using the City fans logic, Klopp won't surpass Wenger only because of time. If Klopp was to stay at Liverpool as long as Wenger did Arsenal, he would surpass him imo
It's ironic that all arsenal fans are voyeurs watching Rory describe Wenger as Arsenal manager in this video 😂😂
Why Rory is still on the internet? Bin this guy to the oblivion .
Rory jennings truly hates arsenal 😂. It's hilarious
I will never understand how Chelsea/Rory can talk about Europe when the bloody discussion is about the fucking premier league... Do they even understand the topic in hand 😂
Pep has redefined how much you need to spend to win leauge titles more like....
@ironheade22
Жыл бұрын
Seeing as other clubs are spending more and not getting close to him, it has to be conceded that the investment is not the only factor in City's success
1.Ferguson 2.Wenger 3.Pep 4.Mourinho 5.Klopp I do agree with Rory about the "Invincibles." season, that season is the most overrated season in sporting history. That 04 Arsenal team if they went invincible again in the most recent Man City and Liverpool dominance wouldn`t win the league.
@Trudon
Жыл бұрын
Arsenal unbeaten team are 8th in points total
How many GOLD Premier League trophies are there and who has one ? never forget Arsenals cabinet has the rarest Trophy in football, more rare than champions league, INVINCIBLE.
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
You could describe the invincibles arsenal as artists. Cause all they did draw 🤦♂️ In my opinion, they Overrated af compared to other teams coaches by Jose SAF pep
@ckdc2052
Жыл бұрын
@@hellohi1445 glad you have an opinion
@Trudon
Жыл бұрын
League title is league title. U don't need to go unbeaten to win it.
@ckdc2052
Жыл бұрын
@@Trudon no of course not but if you want that golden trophy you do
@KaitoMinato
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i'll take UCL anyday of the week lol
Only Ferguson over Wenger
Rory will always feel like the small club in London and it’s painful to watch 😂
Rory is stealing a living
Rory can talk out of his ass like none other
400mil for on Neymar 😂😂 where did bro get that from
Fergie first, then Pep second, then Klopp, Wenger and Jose in whatever order you like. I think...
@KaitoMinato
Жыл бұрын
Okay, stop. Wenger above Klopp for sure.
how does rory still give football opinions
what is rory smoking about wenger
I never see the point of these videos with best manager ever- the answer is always sir alex and just another excuse for man utd fans to get a dopamine hit
Not sure who's more deluded Rory or that Arsenal fan
Liverpool won the league 2020 with just one lost. Is that not slightly invisible?
@Trudon
Жыл бұрын
We lost 3 games that season but won it the fastest with I think the best ever home record. 15 wins out of 16.
Rory's "the invincibles record is insignificant" is quite possibly the worst take I've heard in my life. NO OTHER TEAM has done it. This is so silly. Klopp over Wenger is not even worth mentioning🙄.
I think Rory lost him self abit in this argument.
I'm a Chelsea fan but Rory is lost do 888 not know a different Chelsea fan to take over
7 FA Cups 3 PL titles one of which is Unbeaten. 2 doubles. Wenger an easy second.
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
Pep clear bro tf do u mean second?
@yousefah8596
Жыл бұрын
@@hellohi1445 pep can only achieve this by spending a billion pounds. I’d like to to see his success without the luxury of having the best players on earth and endless wealth at his disposal.
@hellohi1445
Жыл бұрын
@@yousefah8596 I mean yeh he has had funds. But so how countless managers in the past. None were as dominant as pep has been. He has the best win rate for a coach in the PL. 4 out of 5 PL titles. U can’t discredit him cause he spent money. I mean he won two league titles without playing a striker like come on.
@yousefah8596
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@@hellohi1445 I’m not despising he isn’t a great manager. But compared to Ferguson and Wenger in the PL he has had the rub of the green when it comes to buying any player he wants. Give fergie Peps teams over the years and he would have 5 champions leagues by now.
@hellohi1445
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@@yousefah8596 lol fergie wouldn’t win 5 UCL’s 😭 he’d probably have a UCL tho. But anyways he’s obviously first. Wenger can’t be second. He wouldn’t win 2 league titles without a striker like Pep did. I think pep has just dominated english football too much to not be seen as second best. After he leaves city, people will clock how good he actually was when nobody else comes near what he’s achieved.
I agree that Rory is saying a lot of stupid stuff, but comparing today’s level with what was happening 20 years ago is way dumber.
I support arsenal the invincible season is massively over rated I get fed up of people defending it the best season in PL history is city centurion season 2nd is Leicester title winners they only won the title because everyone else fell off I remember it as the scariest season Tottenham almost won a title that year 😂😂😂
Rory is bias It’s fergy Pep Wenger Jose Klopp
1.Wenger-Style of play 10 achievement 8 brought to football 10 money spent 10 (38)2. Ferguson style of play 7 achievement 10 brought to football 7 money spent 7 (31)3.Klopp style of play 8 achievement 7 brought to football 7 money spent 8 (30)4.Guadiola style of play 9 achievement 8 brought to football 8 money spent 4 (29) 5.Mourinho-style of play 5 achievement 9 brought to football 4 money spent 4 (22)
@KaitoMinato
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Here comes the deluded takes🤣
The City fan wanting to believe that Guardiola's legacy is going to be greater than SAFs...😅😂. Go back under your rock buddy!
@J1rkaa16
9 ай бұрын
You should go out of your rock because if Pep stays for another 10 years he will be miles ahead of Ferguson
WENGER ABOVE MOURINHO 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
1. Sir Alex ------------------ (Huge gap) 2. Guardiola 3. Arsene Wenger 4. Jose Mourinho These 3 are interchangeable imo, depends on preference, but If Pep wins the title this season he is clear no 2. ------------------ (Huge gap) 5. Klopp
Good Lord, Steve always finds a way to weave in a pro Man City comment and gush over city. Doesn't even matter if the topic has nothing to do with City, he'll find a way 🙄
400th like!
Wenger giving nightmare to sir alex?😂😂😂😂 Invincibles is pointless achievement cause you went and do nothing after and btw you drew I don’t know how many games ffs Bragging about a invincibles while sir Alex won 13😂😂 And btw talking about impact is not the same if you say the best manager in the premier league!
@tevinthames4571
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how is it pointless to win something in a fashion that NO ONE else has ever done.. to say its pointless is quite ridiculous.. sure i can accept jose being ranked higher.. but his klopp argument and his take on the invincibles reeks of sheer delusion
The Invincibles is a highly overrated achievement and is completely flawed because nearly 1/3rd of the games were draws. It is a novel achievement and one which may not be broken for a really long time but its nothing extraordinary ! If it was 38 wins and no draws, no losses, it would have been the greatest achievement of the premier league, but it isn't!