Who Makes the Best Torx Star Bit? Best Torx Bit Best Torx Brand from Big Box Stores
Today we test 12 different brands of Torx T25 or T25 Star Bits. The driver bits tested are: Dewalt Flex Torq, Makita Gold, Milwaukee Shockwave, Bosch Torsion Zone Impact, Montana Brand (Made in the USA), Harbor Freight Bauer, Craftsman Impact, IRWIN, Performax, Kobalt Tools, Masterforce Impact, and even a new Hart Tools bit.
We will be driving 50 Grip Fast 3-1/8" 6-Lobe Drive Construction Screw into different southern yellow pine 2x4s. We will also be removing them to create as much wear possible. It took on average 20-25 minutes to set up, insert and remove the fasteners for each brand of torx star bit drivers. The Bosch GDX18V-1800 will be used as the impact driving tool and went through a total of 4 batteries during this process being run for 4.5 hours without taking a break.
Driver bits were tested for metal hardness using a Rockwell hardness C scale. Driver bits will be visually inspected for wear and compared.
Finally, we will measure and record the twisting force required to break the Torx star driver bit and compared for both the New and Used Torx star bit. We are looking specifically for consistent results where the used bit is just as good as the new bit.
This video is only for entertainment purposes. If you rely on the information portrayed in this video, you assume the responsibility for the results. No liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. No information contained in this video shall create any express or implied warranty or guarantee of any particular result. Any injury, damage, or loss that may result from improper use of tools, equipment, or the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of you the user.
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When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was Project Farm lolololol, Pretty good test btw.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
He is an inspiration and I do like his channel!
@dutchynehtam
4 жыл бұрын
Same dude!
@nuclearexplosion5841
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@dakotahoward8895
4 жыл бұрын
Same Lol 😂
@AntonioClaudioMichael
4 жыл бұрын
Project farm has a great channel and yes i thought it was a project farm video when I saw the thumbnail
Guns.... Lots of guns and optic mounts use torx bits.... I've stripped far too many small torx bits so now I'm here... Thank you for testing!
Really cool! I especially liked the diagrams for comparison. Also cool, that you showed the force that breaks them. Unfortunatly most of the brands are not common around here, but anyway great test! Thank you! Greetings from Vienna/Austria/Europe.
Another awesome video! Thanks Chris
FANTASTIC video. I was looking to mass purchase some t25 bits and this video helped out a lot. Concise, easy to follow, great narration, very informative. Earned my sub. I have been using the Milwaukee t25s driving primarily 2.5"-3.5" grks into wood and they work great, like you said the fit is snug which helps a lot starting a longer screw.
@ClientGraphics
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steffan! I have a Robertson Square drive one I'm working on if I ever find the time....
Excellent comparison test-Thank you.
@ClientGraphics
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching and commenting👍
nice shoutout to project farm. nice to see you got similar results
Oh my God I love how many tests he ran on all these products! I wish I could get the final answer is sooner as I’m trying to head out and buy some bits but I like this kind of research
Great video! Thanks for the thorough testing.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Anytime, thank you for watching and commenting!
Much more knowledge and handled more professionally then every other tool review channel I’ve watched I’m impressed
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a nice comment! Thanks Shawn
Nice work, comprehensive.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John 🙏🏻
Very thorough and informative.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill👍🏻
Wow dude the work that went into this video is amazing
Nicely done video. I like the test jig you made. It puts everything on an even playing field. It seems to me there is some difference in brands but not a lot. I was disappointed in the one made in USA. I am also glad you included the Menards brand in the video. We have a Menards in our town and they outsell everyone in our area.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
I spent a few weeks looking for the right fastener and setup method to hold everything together, appreciate you commenting. My two go to brands will still be Performax and Montana USA. One is priced cheap and the other grips the fastener well and I can get them both at Menards.
@nitroustommy3668
4 жыл бұрын
I use a lot of Montana bits and in my opinion they don't wear much and last longer over my Dewalt and Hitachi bits. The Hitachi bits also last and have great fitment. (also sold at Menards)
I have had amazing results with the Makita XPS bits as well my top 2 favorite bits are defenitly Milwaukee Shockwave and the makita XPS bits i have done over 58 projects so far with the makita XPS bit torx 25 and its still holding up great on large projects @ClientGraphics
Why no Makita XPS? The gold bits are now somewhat obsolete.
Thank Chris, I am partial to the Irwin bits but have used many different brands.
as a carpenter, i have broke 3 dewalt bits screwing into concrete (approx 5 years old) with blue 6in masonry screws in one day.... but have never broken a Milwaukee bit to this day
Great information on the trox bits I've had good luck with my DeWalt bits I'm not going to change mainly because I can get the DeWalt line easy at my local lowes but I'm not afraid to try the others now
Great video 👍🏻👍🏻
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
Great Test
@ClientGraphics
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scorpion for watching and commenting.👍🏻
Another good video Chris! I had that same AcDelco torque adapter, but mine arrived DOA in the box, I was so mad, I had to run over to Harbor Fright buy the Quinn model which has far less torque ability.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
If the Quinn could do Inch Pounds it would be awesome as the 2 AA batteries last longer than the Coin cells in the AC Delco which is a rebrand, but so is the Quinn. Quinn is still a good bang for your dollar.
We are gonna test that!
Montana Brand tools I have used in the past always have worked well
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I personally use Performax and Montana. But that Milwaukee was impressive if it wouldn’t have slipped on me a few time and should last.
@nicknick2730
3 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy the Montana brand at?
I,too, thought this was @ProjectFarm when I saw the thumbnail. Now if you have ever seen a video from him, then you know that is a pretty damn good compliment. Great video. Thanks for the content.
This is almost like project farm!
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
He’s got a great channel 👍
Not a bad testing method all things considered. Torx is honestly a terrible design that us tool makers dread having to try to make durable.
@billlee1724
4 жыл бұрын
Any coupon codes;)? I’ve been eyeballing your low profile impact sockets and hose clamp pliers
@AstroTools
4 жыл бұрын
@@billlee1724 Would if i had any, but we're just the factory not a retailer so we don't have any to give.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
I have been eyeing those Astro Nano Impact Sockets🥰 Hopefully if the video does well maybe I can buy myself a set for a future video!
@AntonioClaudioMichael
4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics the astro nano sockets are amazing chris I love mine a ton @ClientGraphics
@billlee1724
4 жыл бұрын
AstroTools well hey worth a try;) you guys keep up the awesome work! Looking forward to everything to come!
great video
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eduardo👍
No Wiha or Wera? Those are the ones we buy ... Bummer.
@Speed04GT
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@josiplacic1230
3 жыл бұрын
Wera for me
@honkwok5489
3 жыл бұрын
@Chris P. Weiner sound like only hard core tool user or real profissional guy
@aerocap
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, my ranking for the top 3: PB Swisstools, Wera, Wiha.
@dragannaric7652
5 ай бұрын
And hazet @@aerocap
I use Makita, Milwaukee, and Masterforce from Menards. The best for me depends on the job and the application. Maybe I will do a video on that someday. Honestly, I have not found a difference in strength between Makita and Milwaukee but I tend to agree with your assessment the Milwaukee is possibly one of the strongest.
Nice testing. .
My favorite bit now days is the Milwaukee Shockwave torx bits they have held up the most with 1 bit lasting me well over 68 large projects before i needed to grab another one out of my box @ClientGraphics
I get 400 screws per bit with Milwaukee before it started slipping. Great stuff
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee makes a good hard bit. Probably one of the hardest pieces of tool steel I’ve tested.
ClientGraphics.. Very nice demonstration, thanks for taking the time to do that and share it with us.. "Two thumbs down" not that is some funny stuff. HAHAHA
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! This video really did take a long time. The Bosch impact ran for 4.5hrs straight and went through 4 batteries just to drive all the screws.
Thanks much for your time to test them! Too bad there wasn't Wera, Wiha, and the foremost PB Swisstools (brand dedicated to professionnals)
@FotoCreatives
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with that. It is indeed a pity that these brands are not included. Personally, I'm a big fan of PB Swiss Tools!
Very interesting video CG! Thanks for taking the time to make it and share it! I have to say I’ve use Irwin, dewalt, Milwaukee, craftsman, workpro and the Irwin’s are some of my favorite for t25. The fitment is hard to beat. The dewalt and craftsman in my opinion wear down over time where as the Irwin’s have just kept going and going
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
The Irwin bits were good, but that bit holder.
@themaintenanceman1
4 жыл бұрын
ClientGraphics I’ll be honest I have never seen that holder. I purchased my bit kit about 4-5 years ago and it’s black oxide very much the same styling as the craftsman bit holder you have. Now the Milwaukee bit holders are VERY tight which is good and bad but I don’t like that because just a little bit of dust or grime and it’s hard to pull bits back out
Nice test. Best regards from Poland, im looking for new bit set btw :)
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for watching from 4952.43 miles away👍🏻
@kfach123
4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics i chosed milwaukee shockwave, smallest 32pcs set. We have here expensive electronic tools. Just wish to buy dewalt 996/887 set with batteries for 300$ :)
You know how I feel about the DeWalt hand tools and accessories... I always use them... and they never let me down Good to see that you are using Menards products in your videos... a lot of people on KZread disregard Menards but they are a viable option just like Lowe's and Home Depot... Just to put it in perspective....the difference in foot pounds from the highest rated Torx bit to the lowest Torx bit is about three and a half foot pounds.... so they're all generally as strong as one another... wear might be a different thing... one thing that does remain constant though is using the to right tool and accessory the right way.... that's how you get the greatest longevity out of your bits and tools.... Thanks Chris...🍻
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
I have a Menards, Home Depot and Lowe’s all about 1 mile apart. I went to all 3 for this video and lucked out that Tractor supply had the Irwin set. I personally use the Performax and Montana but usually in a 2” or 3” so I don’t have to use a bit holder.
@boosted2.4_sky
4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics Home Depot is closest to me...(5 min walk)... Lowes is a10 min drive and Menards is a10 min drive....I frequent HD most.. but all have their up side...I just like seeing videos that compare Menards along with HD and Lowes... and Tractor Supply...👍
I got a hundred piece bit set for cheap and of course the smaller torx and allen wore down quickly. Went to True Value, got some expensive Irwins individually for about 3-5 dollars each depending on the size. Never been unhappy with any of them. But thats a crapload of money to spend for a complete set just to get something that doesnt fail too quickly.
Am I missing something? None of those bits sheered-off if you watch closely. The screw head simply stripped out. All you’re measuring is the strength of that specific screw head’s splines. The better fitting bits will then obviously perform the best.....
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
They all cleanly sheered off and not a single fastener head stripped. You can check out some of the bits in this Instagram post. You can see all the bit tips as well as the bits that have a twist in them. You want a twist with the sheer otherwise the bit is technically too hard and could sheer during use. instagram.com/p/CDUafVwDGSh/?igshid=gvqoay355p7
Stay sharp are probably the best bits i have used on the job. 1 bit 2or 3 months of use doing furniture install.
In order to get the best fitting bit then I would say the bit that normally comes with a box of torx 25 screws will always fit the best
I use dewalt branded tools mainly, at my shop where they get a hot supper every day. They just work, I know if they can stand up to the abuse at work then they will last a long time at my home with smaller projects. Plus the max fit bits just really fit into fasteners nicely.
I figured the Milwaukee would win this won, their design is top knotch. These test beat the Bears, very accurate. Anyone looking to buy the best option , who seeks accurate results should subscribe
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee wins for being the bit with the hardest material and not the most expensive. Thanks @The Backwoods Mechanic ❤️ 🧰 🛠
I love milwaukee! Favorite tools.
Irwin seems to be the best value for performance
That was a nice blue handle matco ratchet in the background of the beginning
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
It sure is! Not sure I can bring myself to test it out yet....
@nuclearexplosion5841
4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics haven't you tested a matco ratchet in the past? I would think it would be the same strength as any other color handle
I'd like to see this test with a T10 or T15 size. All those high brands strip out the deck screws as well as bend the fins of the bits.
Wish you showed closeups of the individual bits post failure, tells a lot about how they each failed that is more useful than just the inch lbs
11:40 Maybe I didn't catch it, and I don't think we saw images of the bits after testing.... but could the bits be stripping out the fastener head and not having damage to the flutes?
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Clean sheer of bits here is the pic on Instagram instagram.com/p/CDUafVwDGSh/?igshid=1px8l46xy5okd
Great content!! Thanks!!!
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching and commenting.
Come on man. Don’t be like everyone else and copy a thumbnail. Be original. Nice test. Love your videos
Wera is probably the best, I will say I have some insert torx bits from Proto that are very good.
i wish you would involve Wera in your showdowns, i really think they are the best quality (on account of them being the smartest in set-menaging)
I have that Irwin bit holder and i damn near have to use pliers to remove the bits from it.
Love systematic videos like this. Check out those German brands! There's a whole nitch of folks loving Wiha, Felo, Wera, etc, and for good reason -- though they're pricier! And then there's a bunch of non-Home Depot/Lowes USA made that are aren't cheap enough for their shelves that'll last you a few times longer. My personal pick? Wiha. Wiha all day long.
So based on this it looks like not any one of these would work to get a set screw out of a rotor? Those things are so tight I snapped my impact Torx bit
You should test VEGA brand bits. They are the ones who manufacture bits for Snap-On.
2 hours ago says fresh what about the new makita bits 🍻🍺
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately started this video before Makita XPS was out, but maybe this fall assuming college is open to Rockwell test them.
Can you do square drive #2 bits?
Next time test Robertson! No one uses torx much anyway. 90% of all screws are Robertson now-a-days.
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
It’s on my to do list. Would you rather see S01 or S02 and which top 3 brands as I probably need to limit it to 6-7 brands total.
@halflife82
4 жыл бұрын
ClientGraphics S02 for sure. My brand head to head would be Milwaukee Shockwave vs Dewalt MaxFit vs Wiha vs Wera. And if you have time Makita gold & Bosch. A rated bit fitment measure or grade would be good too. Thanks for your hard work. :)
@Mixwell1983
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you live in Canada, here in the USA torx are used a lot.. Hell I even ordered a box of robertson deck screws to see what theyre about and hex IMO are better.. I have had more cam out with robertson than torx using a drill and impact driver.
You should get affiliate links and Amazon store and link all these diff bits
Kinda surprised you didn’t test a spax bit.
Milwaukee got worn off faster than other bits brand based on 14:12 for a graph?
The new mac tools rbrt bits is were it's at
I would rather have a slightly softer and not destroy my fasteners in the cars. The harbor freight Baur looks really great 👍, with coupons I can buy those a few x over, it doesn't bother me, especially with the 20% off coupons. Good info. For my sockets and other tools I don't buy harbor junk
@donlong1234
8 ай бұрын
they just twist and strip your bolts out they have given so many hours of extra work from getting mixed in with my good one never buy harbor freight unless its for a gift for someone you hate or a competator that you want to too sending to the store after troubles to return and strip the new ones out trying to fix troubles😅
If you want some really good torx bits, find yourself some old Apex bits, some of them bits are damd near bullit proof.
Only complaint is you didnt have grey pneumatic. Ive had pretty poor experience with their star bits specifically
I’d like to see a test where each bit is brought to 70-90% of the failure point 10 or 20 times and then is tested, to simulate lag bolts and self tappers into wood and aluminum or wood and steel
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
In theory that sounds like an excellent test. I’d have to see how that plays out in a video format. Definitely have to speed up that test method in video. Kind of interesting to see how that would test out.
"If you didn't like it, give it two thumbs down" Nice.
Looks like brand is more important than where it is made.
I was expecting to see the difference between breakoff points being a greater difference like 20-30, I was surprised they're actually so close. I have both Bosh & Milwaukee kits and to me the Milwaukee seems to fit everything just that much more precise and the Bosch finish is off of each bit after like the first use of it.
The square bit used in Canada is all ya see in Canada lol
Project Farm is great, but when you get two content creators doing the same thing (or close to it) now you have double the content. I have no idea why you're complaining people!
Please test also with Japanese products, namely Anex and Vessel. I feel this Japanese product can beat this already tested product.
I use milwaukee for my bits
Try wera impaktor bits
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
One day I’ll pull the trigger and get Wera, Wiha and Vega bits.
How about the grk bits?
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
I should have tested that bit and the one that came with the fastener. Maybe next time.
Hilti, hands down
@ClientGraphics
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve only used there SDS drill bits
Anyone have a preference for gun tools?
I wish you would have tried some Spax bits. They make their own for their proprietary screws, but it works REALLY well. Especially paired with the Makita bit holders!
Next time test the bit that comes with the box of screws.
What about wera and felo
I've broke those makita bits in half
Testing torx bits yet no Wera.... Weird.
I don't even waste my money on them Chinese bits... I buy PB Swiss, Vessel. Japanese and German made ones. They last longer. Fit tighter. Have no run out wobble... Which all destroy the fastener...
Sorry but really hard to take a list seriously when they fail to include Wiha and Wera or Felo bits
Why didn't you try wera bits those are like the most premium in Germany
Where is the ryobi brand?
I use strictly Mikita gold.
Why not use Makita XPS instead of Gold????
@ClientGraphics
4 жыл бұрын
I started getting bits and Rockwell test back in March before COVID and the XPS wasn’t in my store and then the college shut down. If it helps the XPS perform similar to the Harbor Freight Bauer.
@E.IS.M.I.A.
4 жыл бұрын
ClientGraphics thanks for the clarification
Love it. Don't use star bits at all but your videos are good and I expect similar results from squar bits
Nice review but cheesy thumbmail.. It looks identical to PF's drill bits video down to the text and the "let's find out"...
Hold up this ain’t ProjectFarm?
Try Wera
I have the dewalt bit holder like the Kobalt one and it is pure garbage.. I hate the sleeve on it. I ended up using a cheap warrior bit holder for my small bits. Just got in a 6" milwaukee bit holder than I havent used yet..
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
3 жыл бұрын
The sleeve is designed to go over the screw once it's on the bit. When the sleeve is over the screw, you don't have that initial awkward wobble when you're starting it, which leads to unintentional angles, dropped screws, or a torx bit straight into your finger. It's really handy when you need to run a screw in at an angle or need a lot of pressure to get it started. If it easily falls over the bit, then it's not operating as designed. You can pop the snap ring off and bend it out just a tad, that'll hold it tighter. Another fix is to use pliers to apply pressure on the outer sleeve and slightly oval it, that provides more overall friction...but it also adds friction while it's turning as well, too much and you'll ruin the whole reason the sleeve is there. It's also not that difficult to just take it off entirely if you have no use for it.
Can't believe you wimped out and didn't answer your own question.
But thank you for the testing!
No Wera??? and Wiha??? !!!
Give it two thumbs down...lmao. That's creative :D Thanks again