Who is the real 17th Karmappa
Who is the Karmapa?
Karmapa means the embodiment of all the activities of the buddhas, or the one who carries out buddha-activity. In the Tibetan tradition, great enlightened teachers are said to be able to consciously control their rebirth in order to continue their activity for the benefit of all sentient beings. On this page we will give you an overview of the Karmapa lineage, and a brief introduction to the life and many activities of the present Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley Dorje.
The first Karmapa, Dusum Khyenpa, was born in 1110. He was the first of the great Tibetan masters to establish an incarnating lineage. Since his death in 1193, successive Karmapas have incarnated in this form of manifestation body (Skt. nirmanakaya), for sixteen lifetimes so far, and all have played a most important role in preserving and promulgating the Buddhist teachings of Tibet.
Prior to the birth of the first Karmapa, the arrival of a Buddhist master, who would be known as the Karmapa, had been prophesied by the historical Buddha Shakyamuni and the great tantric master of India, Guru Padmasambhava.
Throughout the centuries, Karmapas have been the central figure in the continuation of the vajrayana lineage in general and the Kagyu lineage in particular, and have played a very important role in the preservation of the study and practice lineages of Buddhism.
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There is no doubt that Orgen thrinlay Dorjee is the Karmapa declared and recognised by HH the Dalai Lama, the spiritual head of Tibet and also by all eminent lamas.
@jackytang3683
Жыл бұрын
And also got official recognize from Beijing central government
@karmayoudon9474
Жыл бұрын
True . We believe Ogyen Thinley dorjee because he was recognised by HH 14th Dalai Lama .
@traceler
Жыл бұрын
Recognised by Shamar Rinpoche who is the one with that responsability.
@tibetsonofindia4851
11 ай бұрын
@@traceler 😅🤣😂😆 r u joking me who is shemar rinpochey my ligpa😆😆
@sanju7328
11 ай бұрын
Karmapa Thenley thaye dorje had recognise by 16 th karmapa last latter.. But urgen renpoche is just tulku and he himself expose his own identity and now tibetan big position has stopped him to talk in English.. But karmapa thenley thaye dorje no thing to prove himself karmapa because his holiness is as same as 16karmapa and no different ❤❤❤❤❤
For me the two are karmapa.. Because their teaching is about wisdom... Because it's important that what kind of teaching they r giving us who is it's doesn't matter... The way of buddha teaching is important ❤..
@pythonia5522
Күн бұрын
my man , gets it,, well done,,, that is 100% correct yes.
Long life HH Gyelwang Karmapa Ugyen Thinley Dorjee
His Holiness The 16th Karmapa’s hat has a dark blue color. Long live His Holiness the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Thrinley Dorje.
@NgawangLobsang-nm4fx
Жыл бұрын
We tibetan are ok with both as both Carrie's dharma.
@sanju7328
11 ай бұрын
Karmapa Thenley thaye dorje had recognise by 16 th karmapa last latter.. But urgen renpoche is just tulku and he himself expose his own identity and now tibetan big polititon has stopped him to talk in English.. But karmapa thenley thaye dorje had no thing to prove himself karmapa because his holiness is as same as 16karmapa and no different
Long Live H.H.17th The Gyalwang Karmapa Urgen Thinley Dorjee Rinpo Chey…🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹
@sanju7328
11 ай бұрын
Karmapa Thenley thaye dorje had recognise by 16 th karmapa last latter.. But urgen renpoche is just tulku and he himself expose his own identity and now tibetan big polititon has stopped him to talk in English.. But karmapa thenley thaye dorje had no thing to prove himself karmapa because his holiness is as same as 16karmapa and no different
I really missed his holiness samar Rinpochela, I iam one of the greatest devote of his holiness..I miss his holiness smile and there was so much of positivity in his holiness ❤❤❤❤😢
@elenafilippou1821
5 ай бұрын
me too, he was a great bodhisattva! btw -i hope you've seen the joint statement! Shamar's 15th incarnation will be recognized soon and our lineage will heal!
Of course, no doubt. His Holiness The Gyalwang Ogyen Thinley Dorjee. ❤
@traceler
Жыл бұрын
It is Shamar Rinpoche responsability to identify reincarnation.
@sanju7328
11 ай бұрын
Karmapa Thenley thaye dorje had recognise by 16 th karmapa last latter.. But urgen renpoche is just tulku and he himself expose his own identity and now tibetan big polititon has stopped him to talk in English.. But karmapa thenley thaye dorje had no thing to prove himself karmapa because his holiness is as same as 16karmapa and no different ❤❤❤❤
@ommanipadmehung4666
11 ай бұрын
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@jebroe860
11 ай бұрын
you think there is a come back from rape. fathering a child from rape and made KTD pay over 10 million $. There s no coming back for OTD. Ges on the for sex abuse and was on the lam from India for tax evasion. He's a fake..
@wesherchedupbhutia17
10 ай бұрын
@@traceler have you watched H.H ogyen thinley dorjee’s documentary.? There Dalai Lama has clearly said that he saw a dream about where Karmapa was born and that happens to be the place where Tibetan karmapa, oygen thinley dorjee was born , and situ rinpoche who was very closed to 16th Karmapa identified the reincarnation but ofc I believe in both. Long live the karmapas
17 Karmapa Urgen thinley dorjee long live 🙏🙏🙏
Long live His Holiness the 17th karmapa Thinley theye dorjee
@ommanipadmehung4666
11 ай бұрын
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I believe in both karmpas 🙏✨ lets say mind & speech. It doesn't matter who is real or not as long as they're carrying dharma activities in order to benefit all beings. 🙏✨
@NgawangLobsang-nm4fx
Жыл бұрын
I AM TIBETAN .N I AGREE WITH YOU.
@sonamthambo2593
11 ай бұрын
Sure
@jebroe860
11 ай бұрын
The 16th Karmapa is my root Guru. I have always said that the true Karmapa candidate will be determined by their Buddha activities. OTD whose, non dharmic behaviors has spoken like a loud all pervasive, lions roar. You can be trained and pretend to be the 17th Karmapa, even look like a one, but if you behave like a spoiled millionaire,, money drunk, " king" who breaks every samaya vow, that is certainly not the 17th Karmapa. Karmapa would not have to 7 million plus $ and that's just we kniw
@ommanipadmehung4666
11 ай бұрын
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@dianehghzn7670
11 ай бұрын
Thats interesting the money aspect if sharing then thats a good thing isnt it its only if its stacked and not spent on the things that is needed in His community or who ever can benefit from His generous nature ❤😂who knows what the purposes are a small mind is stuck believe me Iam talking from experience so lets all jump outside the box hey ?. ? And widen our perspective HURAY !,! OMMANIPADMEHUM x3 ❤️❤️❤️🌈🌈🌈☔️☔️☔️🙏🙏🙏🌹☸️☮️💟🛐🇳🇿🇮🇩🇺🇦🥰🙏🙏🙏
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The Buddha said, "Be a lamp unto yourself." That means we each must find our own way by our own practice. Whether someone else is a tulku or not should not change our practice. May all beings find happiness and liberation.
Long live H.H the Ugyen Trinley Dorjee 🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐💐🙏🙏🙏Karmapa Khenno 🙏🙏🙏
Beside my personal appreciation of his Holiness the 14. Dalai Lama from a distance it seemes obvious, that since the 1960s the tibetan government had the plan to unify the 4 main sects of tibetan Buddhism under Gelug leadership, which culminated in the death of Gungthang Tsultrim and didnt succeed mainly because of the resistance of the 16. Karmapa. I think a prerequisite for this plan was the banning of the sectarian wordly spirit dorje shugden. The paranirvana of the 16. Karmapa brought a second chance for expanding the dominance of the gelug sect by recognising and binding Orgyen Trinley Dorje, which also in the end didnt work well. Orgyen Trinley Dorje, who might be an Tulku, is clearly brought in the wrong position by the means of tibetan politics. The rivalry of the Gelug and Karma Kagyü sect has a long tradition, already after the paranirvana of the 15 th Karmapa, the 13 th Dalai Lama propagated a wrong candidate for the rebirth of the 16. Karmapa.
Everyone has their own devotion, don't conclude here saying who is real and who is fake... Go through Shamar Rinpoche's interview once. Karmapa's controversy is far more deep which we humen have not that abilities to understand. Karmapa khenno, may the Karmapa lineage live forever🙏🙏🙏
I follow both H. H. Gyalwa Karmapa 💐🙏🏿🌸🙏🌺🙏🏻🌹🙏🎁🙏🏻💐🙏🏽🌸🙏🏻🎁🙏💐🙏🏽💐
Never seen the video on this topic before......nicely done..... only few things need to be corrected. The oldest schools / lineages are Nyingma, Sakya, Kagyu and Gelug. Tai Situpa Rinpoche is 70 years old. People should also watch about Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche's previous life will get to know more about Karmapa Orgyen Thrinle Dorje. He knows everything even in his very young age in Tibet. He helped in the search of Jamgon Kongtrul reincarnation lama. I've heard the 16th Karmapa flying hat story but never heard of rainbow body......Indeed, He is very powerful. 🙏 Please bring more videos related to the 16th Karmapa. Karmapa Chenno 🙏🙏🙏🌷🌷🌷☸️🕉️
@sonamwangyal5218
Жыл бұрын
Thaye,Dorje, is a good father, and a good husband, but- -, -
Ugen Thinlay Dorjee is the real KARMAPA who is recognized by His Holiness The 14th DALAI LAMA 🙏 ❤
@mrgops3562
Жыл бұрын
True
@norkitlepcha7667
Жыл бұрын
True ugen thinley dorjee is the real 17 th kàrmapa🙏🏻🌹🙏🏻
@norkitlepcha7667
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you so much good information lord Buddha🙏🏻
@user-yf6lv5zc5e
Жыл бұрын
Then why community and disciples doesn't follow the HH trulsikh Rinpoche yangsi who was recognize by hh the dalai lama and they follow another HH trulsikh Rinpoche who was recognize by hh drodrupchen Rinpoche... Stop this kind controversy about karmapa...both are genuine karmapa we have to follow both karmapa...
@chogyalsherpa8145
Жыл бұрын
Really? How do you clarify that unknown things.
This is definitely a dual incarnation, Karmapa reincarnated in 2 bodies , this is understandable because of Tibetan and chinese politics , i have had the good fortune to meet with Orgyen Thrinley Dorjee twice, was a good experience. 🙏
@anshul0961
Ай бұрын
Soul can't divide
The face structure of Ugen Trinley Dorjee and 16th Karmapa young face are very much similar which make us believe the real one
Whoever the Karmapa is, we should not judge or compare. We must not identify us self with anyone of them. Our nature is to love and spread more love. Even in Buddhism there are fight, ego, anger, ignorance and all the negative emotions. These negative (claiming power and authority) things should not happen if we are practicing Buddhism
His Holiness the 17th karmapa ugen thinley dorje right 🙏🙏🙏🌺
Ogyen Trinley Dorje chenno🙏🙏🙏🌼🍎🍎💐💐💐
I mean if both of them could guide beings than that is good for us ; and if one of them can prove to be effective then it is good too. But the problem is they fail to lead beings to better place . Now the title karmapa comes with lots of history and responsibility; and I hope they both can upheld that legacy . As a Tibetan, I will always go by the recognition of HH the Dalai Lama and that does not mean other one should be denigrated. I pray both succeed the legacy .
@wesherchedupbhutia17
10 ай бұрын
I think you’re right after all , there must be a reason for 2 karmapa
Very powerful ungainly dorjee🙏🏼
Karmapa thinly thaye Dorje is real no doubt 🙏
@jamestan4584
Жыл бұрын
Wrong
What did it happen at the moment we have both 17th Karmapa? Do they excommunicate each other?
Long live His Holiness Gyalwa Kamapa Ogyen Thinlay Dorjey Rinpoche and His Holiness Gyalwa Karmapa Thinle Thayes Dorje Rinpoche for every Buddhist and specially for precious Kagyu lineages.
His holiness the 17th karmapa ugen thinley dorjee 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@sanju7328
11 ай бұрын
Karmapa Thenley thaye dorje had recognise by 16 th karmapa last latter.. But urgen renpoche is just tulku and he himself expose his own identity and now tibetan big polititon has stopped him to talk in English.. But karmapa thenley thaye dorje had no thing to prove himself karmapa because his holiness is as same as 16karmapa and no different
@tibetstudio71892
11 ай бұрын
His Holiness the 14th Dalai lama recognise is the real one and Mepham Rinpoche son is the Lingauge Rinpoche
Namo Buddhay. There's was a movie...A Rinpoche was incarcerated into 3 persons... Hence, Karmapa Khenno maybe reincarnated into 2 persons. Both are doing great in Buddha's teachings. Compassion, kindness, helpful loving....etc.. I respect Both Karmapa Khenno.🙏🙏🙏
@noostnzn_6668
Жыл бұрын
Well said me also🙌🏻
@joeblack363
Жыл бұрын
Because it happened in a movie it happened in real life?
@gohdolly5149
11 ай бұрын
@@joeblack363 who knows. Many Buddhas n Bodhisattvas reform into many forms too🙏🙏🙏
@user-jv4rh6ht6b
9 ай бұрын
You cannot judge the book by it's cover...but I respect your faith in both.🙏🙏
Did you make the video about karmapa’s rainbow body photo?
Ugen Thinlay always mention Rumtek ... We Sikkimise believe that he is the one who is real Karmapa .... Even crown is in Rumtek.. The pine plant which is planted in Rumtek by H.H Karmapa was still alive it was planted in Cemented floor...
You have obviously a tendency in your Posting. Sad. Karmapa is NOT about "power" His activity is about WISDOM and COMPASSION.
@tenzintsephel713
Жыл бұрын
Ya but he got the point bcz there can't be fake guru or lama
@abhisektamang454
Жыл бұрын
exactly
@jimilama-vd2bh
Жыл бұрын
@@tenzintsephel713❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤3
17th Karmapa is Ugen Tenley Dorjee. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@sanju7328
11 ай бұрын
Karmapa Thenley thaye dorje had recognise by 16 th karmapa last latter.. But urgen renpoche is just tulku and he himself expose his own identity and now tibetan big polititon has stopped him to talk in English.. But karmapa thenley thaye dorje had no thing to prove himself karmapa because his holiness is as same as 16karmapa and no different
we believe Gyalwang Karmapa is Ogyen Trinlay Dorje
Urgen Thinley Dorjee 🙏🙏🙏
I think Buddhist should be more happy that there is two Karbala. We have one more guru and one more choice. Long live both Karmapa rinpoche and flourish their teaching.
Chabsuchee,,,,, karmapa,,,,,,ugen trinlay dorjee,,,,, 🙏💐🙏 Everywhere there were negetive and positive energy.....world even form by negetive and positive,thats why this is the example for the world,but negetive always lose,,,, right,,,,, ancient buddha was born and devdat was also born,is this the same case right .....no matter,we must prey heartly,worthfully to our real one.....thats the matter.....its my only views.....thank you.....karmapa khennoo from my heart....🙏💐🙏
Kap chu chee gyalwa karmapa kheno. 🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🙏🙏🙏
Can someone please share me chants on background
very high lamas such as Karmapa etc can very easily eminate in multiple bodies. its well documented in the history of tibet. even in high level thought you can maybe see why high lamas may on purpose create controversy to wake people up and get them practising etc
Traleg Rinpoche points out that the test of a spiritual practice is whether it is beneficial, not which religion it is associated with. Applying this to the Karmapa issue means that as long as both are benefitting human beings the issue of which is the true one is less important- that said Ogyen Trinley Dorje is the true Karmapa and this becomes obvious if you meet him.
@olympic-gradelurker
10 ай бұрын
I'm sure his assault victims would disagree.
@ChristopherFynn001
10 ай бұрын
@luckylongshotz Have you personally met both?
Who is the karmapa at last
Since when does the Dalai Lama determine who is a Karmapa?! There are two Karmapas. One is for the Chinese and those who trust them. The other is for the others.
Long live both Karmapa 🙏🏻
@dianehghzn7670
11 ай бұрын
HALLELUJAH
When a reincarnated lama is confirmed by the Chinese government, its good sign that this is not the true reincarnation. And why do you all forget that Urgen said him self that he is not the real Karmapa, and that he is very happy that he manage to share his thought with before 14th Shamapra's death. And now all the stories about Orgen's lovers and the babies he made with them - one can see he is truly not happy and he wants different life.
if one meets Thaye Trinley Dorje, one has no doubts any more who the Karmapa is. It is that simple. Karmapa chenno
Nothings more than, only by God H.H the 14h DALAI Lama recognised thats Karmapa.
H.H Gyelwang Karmapa Kheno@🙏🙏🙏 I believe in both "KU SUNG THUG"
Why didn't you mention that prediction letter was proved forgered, fake.. The hand writing on the letter was matching with situ Rinpoche...
@tashitshering703
2 ай бұрын
Evidence please.
@karmathinlay6881
2 ай бұрын
@@tashitshering703 pls send me your adress I'll send you books with full of evidence on this topic.... But pls when you upload on such high level topic which has been deeply connected with people's believes and faith, pls give your time on research.. Pls don't upload whatever comes on your mind or what you think is right... Don't accumulate bad karma🙏
Every one should follow that Karmapa he trusts most. In my case this is Karmapa Thaye Dordje. If someone trusts Orgyen Thrinlay more he should follow him. But I think Thaye Dordje is more convincing. He gave back his monk vovs and married. Orgyen thrinlay had a sexulal relationship with a nun and is going on like business as usual. That is no good exampel in a word where sexual relationsships should base on trust an emazipation.
For you he is the H.H 17th and for me other one is the 17th H.H. So you can do your way without disturbing me and I will do my way without disturbing anybody. Winner winner but no chicken dinner as we both are follower of karmapa.
@Grogueman
Жыл бұрын
🙏
If you read the short biography of the first Karmapa, Dusum Khyenpa, contained in the Blue Annals (དེབ་ཐེར་སྔོན་པོ་, ) - written by Gö Lotsawa Shyönnu Pal (1392-1481), it clearly states that Karmapa is one of the Buddhas of the fortunate aeon (བསྐལ་པ་བཟང་པོ) and that noone, not even a 10th level Bodhisattva, can tell how many emanations he has.
Urgen trinley dorjee 🙏🙏🙏🌺🌺🌺🙏🙏🙏
I believe both ❤
We respect both karmapa. It's up to you to whom you worship.
@Tchoden.namgyal___
Жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate your golden pov!!! I agree with you too .
I met chogye trichen rinpoche,,,, jejej jejeje jejejej hi hihiihiii
Long live Karmapa Thinley Thaye Dorji
Long live urgyen T hinley dorjee karmapa
🌸🙏🙏🙏🌸
Both are great lama we accept both as our karmapa lama
what about Yung Drung Bon lineage they are also Buddhist
Highly realised beings can have more than one incarnations.
Karmapa invented the tulku system. The system likes it because they can control the future leader from the very young age. It will always create controversies. I just pray that the leaders can see it and dare to change. For the sake of Buddhadharma.
As a Naepali Buddhist both are H H karmappa do not compare ❤
I think there is other two lamas one from Sikkim and another from Algarah,kalimpong also claiming for Karmapha.
@johnjones99124
11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
I follow both karmapa🙏🙏🙏
@phutshering1819
Жыл бұрын
There is only one Karmapa...choose either one with genuine motivation and dedication...Karmapa Ugyen Trinley Dorjee is a genuine one...no doubt about that...Recognised by his root guru Tai Situpa Rinpochey..who has a long bonding Master and Student relationship between them in terms of recognition in every rebirth or reincarnation..
Yeah I respect both they r bhuddhist
Thinly dorje🙏🙏🙏🙏
Both are real human beings .nothing others ..
🙏🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐
Bothe are Urgain Bothe are Dorjee One is Thinley One is Thaye One is promoted by Shamarpa Rinpoche. One is promoted by Situ Rinpoche. Bothe the Situ Rinpoche and Shamar Rinpoche and historically achieved Lama with long history. So Karna Kagyue is enriched with two Karmapa. Both are now Karmapa Like it or not Both will serve humanity!
First Buddhist school in Tibet are as follows ༡༽ རྙིང་མ་་་་ ༢༽ བཀའ་བརྒྱུད་་་ ༣༽ས་སྐྱ་་་་་ ༤༽ དགེ་ལུགས།
UTD real karmapa🙏🙏🙏
What a sad thing that happened to these 2 young Karmapa reincarnation. It should never had happened in this way. There are many revered Rinpoches who have many reincarnations like: mind, body etc and such system never caused any schism…. Hopefully the both Karmapas will overcome the schism of their supporters and unite for the benefit of all sentient beings …..
Why not better go meditate and do your practice instead of discussions. Karmapa lineage and the Kagyu school is too precious for that.
Both the karma are guiding us but ogyen trinley Dorjee is our real karmapa as well as we have huge respected fir him. We donot need married lama like Thaye dorjee.
His Holiness 14th Dalai lama, not the 17th Dalai lama. Maybe slip of the tongue you said 17th Dalai lama, and I accepted that. But other people will think in other ways. If you can correct it that would be better. 🙏🙏🙏thank you for your wonderful message sir.
There are 10 levels of bodhisattva which is call ma dak sa dun & dakpa sa sum one who complete all these then we can say enlighten one so its very important to choose right master who already enlighten one so to know which is right master in buddha darma said we should analysis for 10 years So its showing choosing master is very important
Hi ❤well iam really nobody to say anything about this situation but one day i was in singapore in a darma shop and i saw a picture of Orgen Trinley Dorge and i got such a surprise because i mustv had some kind of connection with the last karmapa I recognised Him as the 17 th karmapa I dont know how I knew i just did anyway after that people told me about the other karmapa and i allways thought that and the rumours at the time was that this second one was a setup by the chinese but then one of my Lamas suggested that because of the power of the Last karmapa this Lama said it was more than possible that the 16 th karmapa couldv easily have the two incarnations and having different functions to serve humanity and I feel this Lama Is right and I think HHDLL might be in agreance with that although don’t quote me on that because I might be wrong Iam sure HHDLL has his own thoughts and opinions on that ( its just an suggestion and a thought theres nothing to say that the Last Karmapa wasnt capable of that In my opinion and feeling more than Likely there shouldnt be any contreversy about that we shoulld all embrace both these great beings ❤but then who am I to say like I said iam a nobody to take any notice of but its something to think about if your interested in this matter whatever both are recocnized by the highest Lamas in existence so who could actually challenge that I think its a incredible opportunity to see thegreat compassionate nature of this great being ❤with no contreversy or arguments get past the mind games and just watch the wonders of the universal Love for all sentient beings ❤😂☮️☮️☮️💟💟💟🛐🛐🛐🕉️🕉️🕉️☸️☸️☸️💝🌈🌈🌈☔️☔️☔️🇳🇿🇳🇿🇮🇩🇮🇩🇺🇦🇺🇦🌹🍀😍🌺🌼🌸🥰💐🌷🌎🌏🌍😇☸️☸️☸️🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷😍😍😍💝😇
Honestly speaking both are karmapa, karmapa meaning is the activities of Buddha, they are serving Buddha dharma pretty well, now they both had met 3 times already and made a statement together about harmony, florish a karma kagyu lineage and recognize a shamar Rinpoche reincarnation, so we as ordinary people, don't know nothing so better respect there decision spread Buddha dharma, 🙏🙏🙏
Real Karmappa photo is placed inside the Rumtek monastery. It section of Indian intelligence who has posed hindrances by opposing the real one. Unnecessarily kept the Karmapa under detention and not letting him visit his monastery Rumtek.
Long live both karmapa
ogyen thinley dorji is realy karma pa ❤❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢
Om om om
Ogyen Thinley dorji is real 😢❤❤
Karmapā THENLEY DORJEY🙏🙏🙏
His holiness 17 karmapa Ugen thinley dorjee🙏🙏
Better to judge the real Karmapa is on their action. Buddhist Monk never keep the wife and child with their buddhist Monk dress. Once the monk or lama or rinpoche fall in sexual activity is not so long Rabhjung. So better to wear lay man dress and keep the wife and children and can give the teaching if having a capacity of buddhism knowlegde. 🤔🤔🤔😏😏😏
@nondescripthuman
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Not true 10 and 13th Karmapas had a wife or consort. Read history before commenting. Every Buddhist master who undergoes tantric training has to take up a consort, most of them do it in a secret and Gelugs takes a wisdom consort or yeshe in chag gya, that doesn't mean all other schools follow the same thing. Plus the monk vow says sexual misconduct is not allowed, this is why even Gelongs after taking up tantric consort doesn't fall from the vow as it is not considered a sexual misconduct. As far as my knowledge goes. So stop judging. Respect everyone, I hope you remember the dog tooth story. I sometimes feel weird about Tibetan Lamas they will on one hand stay the dog story but on the other hand leave no stone unturned to vile another and this is DHARMA
@chodadukpa-rm3kg
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Go back to some dalai lama incarnation married སྐུ ་ཕྲེང་...when dalai lama female incarnation in future, can you reject
@chodadukpa-rm3kg
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We should analyse more about Buddhist not only one part..I think so...without analyse will create misunderstand ...dilgo khentse rinpoche was married and dalai lama get most of empowerment from khentse rinpoche why???? Dalai lama said about khentse rinpoche KZread
@chodadukpa-rm3kg
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I accept ngyingma gayluk kargue sakya all...
ShamarNag Khyeñño 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Orgen trinlay Dorjee is the only Karmapa. He has the great power I myself experienced. Whatever people whispering, I believe in him. My Guruji is Tai Situ Pa and he has the power of knowing the correct Karmapa. I am following Vajrayana Buddhism since 30 years and believe in only Orgen Trinlay Dorjee who resembles so much to previous 16 Karmapa. Don’t confuse people. I don’t think you are Tibetan must be Indian who is trying to sell his little rough reading. Vancouver BC
Problem of Tibetan Rinpoche lies with egoism of high lama. It would dissolve with the presence of Dalai Lama I agree with what Dalai Lama advice and instruct. Game of this Lamaism is still exist in this modernised world I need a true enlightened lama rather than the game of of democracy party.
This is not something for you to make KZread content entitled “who is the real karmapa”. Instead of buddha’s footsteps and teachings, people are out here advocating for their own lineage’s 🙏🏼
Who is karmapa?
If u don't know then please don't speak in this type news...u can make vedio in other types vedio..🙏🙏🙏my request
It’s easy doing past life regression therapy
brother alot of facts are not mentioned at all what about the letter that was found and Shamar Rinpoche agreeing to it at first and also tsurpu is in tibet but you should mention that it has been the main seat of karmapas since the beginning of karamaps why is such an important high lama like Jamgon kongtrul not mentioned his death and gyaltsap Rinpoche the reagents of 16th karmapa their opinions at first many2 things are not in order it feels almost like a biased representation although your intentions may not be so it almost feels like you already have an opinion and a verdict which for historical studies is not a good thing as you're posting in a public platform it should be as it is not bending and twisting as it can misled people who are not so aware of this controversy, can you please also mention the sources of your information without the sources anyone can say anything as this thing is quite famous and clear you can find everything for this one
Whoever serve people is the real one.
Of course both of Karmapa
H.H. The Dalai Lama choice is real Karmapa Urgyen Thiley Dorjee.