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@booksolved2.172

3 жыл бұрын

Okay all speeches are fine but Dr Shabir 's one speech about music listening ,.I want that please explain the Verse no.6 of surah Al lukman and al Bukhari hadith no. 5590...... please it is my request to clarify it.

@Hamza00011

3 жыл бұрын

@@booksolved2.172 he has explained this. The verse in the Quran was about those turning people away from the message with singing over it, so its not to do with regular music. The hadith in bukhari is problamatic according to scholars such as ibn hazm, abubakr ibn al arabi, al ghazali and others. The position had been held by the above scholars

@booksolved2.172

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hamza00011 so according to your reply... often I can listen music if my intention is not to turn away peoples

@booksolved2.172

3 жыл бұрын

Are you saying it with full confidence ?

@Hamza00011

3 жыл бұрын

@@booksolved2.172 according to some notable scholars like mentioned if music doesnt turn you away from Quran and is not ‘bad’ music then its permissible

Very well crafted and to the point...love this discussion

@talisupremacy7176

3 жыл бұрын

Mate he's literally contradicting himself.

JazakAllah learned a lot

@camilla_cruncheee

3 жыл бұрын

Did he answer the question?

Alhamdulillâhi Rabbil âlamiin. Thank you Dr ALLY for sharing your knowledge with us. May ALLÂH SWT Protect Bless Help Guide and Grant all of us Jannah. Amiin Amiin Amiin

Very important discussion

I have a question about what is happening in Palestine . What does the Quran say about the children of Israel and the promised land? Please explain thanks

Please ask from Dr Shabir to make a video that talks about the misunderstanding of people that the Qur'an was revealed from satan and those who say it was from satan they bring some sources from our books as well

great video

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Dr. Ally is the best. Hands down the best Muslim apologist there is.

@sukaisnaini1843

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterhwang1860 agree. thanks

Dear Dr. Shabir Ally, Assalamu Alaikum. I have one question regarding Hadiths. Do we have right to question any Hadiths which are irrelevant in Quranic Context or Scientific context? I would appreciate if you share your opinion.

Thx u dr

The intended audience of the Qur'an was obviously those who were alive at the time and living close to the source of the revelation - the Arabian Peninsula and its surrounding area - but, also, for all times and peoples to come, as was explained here. Another good upload from the team - thanks.

The topic is not so easy and requires a lot of re-interpretations. How will the aya 12:2 or 42:7 should be interpreted.

@somonsomon8244

3 жыл бұрын

There is no need for reinterpretation

This question exposes a major issue today. The fact that we have so many interpretations some ultra traditional, some 7th century archaic and some progressive, some modernist. This ties in to a previous question that why could god not send a different text or prophet for each era until end of time. When you take the scripture literally it causes all sorts of problems.

@talisupremacy7176

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh. It's amazing you are able to notice all that, but cannot draw the conclusion. 😂

@tenzek4635

3 жыл бұрын

If what is objectively moral constantly changes with the times, there is a contradiction in what it means to be objectively moral or immoral. If it's clear to you that some of the things in the Quran are not moral in a modern understanding of the world, you have a serious conflict to reconcile with your beliefs. Don't let someone telling you that you cannot question god absolve your personal responsibility to act morally. You know that, if the god you believe in exists, he holds you ultimately responsible for your own actions, but even if no gods exist, then you are responsible for yourself by default.

@tenzek4635

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr I was responding to the person who noted that there are many interpretations, and thus many different understandings of what is and is not moral within a claimed objective morality. You would have to ask them about their beliefs.

@tenzek4635

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr Immoral means something that goes against what is moral. The original comment said they have different interpretations of the Quran. Am I wrong in assuming that is the source of your moral code? If they disagree about what is stated by the source of your morals, everything I have said follows. When I make comments, I assume the reader has a reasonable grasp of the conversation and the ability to make the most basic logical inferences. I suggest giving a comment a moment's thought before responding from here on out. It will save us both some time. Again, if you want specific examples of his understanding, you must ask him. My response to his comment was just in general to the concept he was describing.

@Yameen200

3 жыл бұрын

@@tenzek4635 Your name is familiar. We spoke on the koranic islam channel where u conversed with him about eternal hell if im correct ? Unless that was someone with a similiar username anyway.... The issue of different interpretations and objective morals is a sub issue of my original comment. My Original comment was merely responding to the videos title of whos the intended audience. The fact that we have different interpretations filtered through different cultural lenses highlights the problem of applying the verses literally to every century and scenario. Many examples i can give but too long to write. Many verses are very localised to the local 7th century arabs whilst many ppl in the 21st century use these verses literally like fools. But in certain verses the objective morality issue is relevant however this is a separate issue where ppl must define how they identify an objective moral vs subjective or cultrual one.

are there some that cannot be expected to read or understand The Quran, namely: mentally impaired, elderly infirm, toddlers? I am curious

Every prophets were mocked and deemed liar.

@davidthewitness

3 жыл бұрын

KZread channels: Acts 17 Apologetics & CIRA International

Quran was sent down in Arabic. However, that does not make it that God is bias towards Arab race - quite a number of Muslims seem to think that Arab and their culture are what Islam is. Quran even quoted (9v97) "Arabs of the desert" not in a positive tone, whichever Arab that would be. In 41v44 the Quran alluded that even if it is not in Arabic, ppl who do not believe will not believe, language is not the issue. For a believer, it is a book that guides 7v52. I mean if you really meet a guru, he cant really teach you wisdom directly, technically speaking. Not until you start thinking and adopt the right attitude. Some people are just that, they do not really have the right attitude and they are not really true with their ownselves. That is why in 13v11, Quran mentioned that God will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves It is true though that some verses may look cryptic, even Quran notified that some allegorical verses can only be interpreted by those with knowledge - 3v7. Quran also noted that it is a noble discourse, alluding it only for those who have purified (intention) can "touch" it - 56v79. Quran even noted that it is God who ultimately reveal the (full) explanation to a believer - 75v19

Im a 7th Day Adventist Christian. Heres a few line of reasonings to consider using in order to win over to the truth in Christ Jesus. 1. The character/prophets of the bible and the prophets in islam that are the same such as adam,eve, enoch,noah, moses, king david and so on. Because islam does not give us the full story of their life or tell us how they came to be ask our muslim friend can the lineage in the bible be trusted. 2. Secondly the common prophets/characters in islam often have a partial life story or none at all such as enoch. Then ask can the bible be trusted to let us know who enoch is or let us know who the other prophet is who name is only found else where beside the quran or the holy bible. The line of reasoning is to build confidence in the validity of the bible and not to dispute. 3. Because the life of moses is incomplete in the quran and does not explain about the tabernacle in the wilderness, the feast days, pass over or day of atonement. Ask if the bible can be trusted to understand what those things were about and what they stood for. If the bible is to be trusted to understand the prophets of the quran or to know who there parents are or to know their full life story. Does the validity of the bible have weight. This is just a few small examples using a line of reasoning to bring a believer in the quran to the attention of the accuracy and validity of the bible. The purpose and goal is to show the truth in love and not in vain disputing.

Abc

The Quran is intended for all people, for all time. In essence, it is the Alim, the REAL SCHOLARS , not the fake mullah or Peer who ought to be disseminating the knowledge from the Quran. By and large those people are not educated correctly. They are Madrasah taught. Hence instead of keeping Islam as Deen they alter it into a Mazhab. The Quran is the Book for the Islamic State Government. For those with knowledge, who can create and form and sustain a Government based upon the Quranic injunctions. The Quran was sent down as a Blessing and a Mercy for all mankind hence any Government that is formed, based on its rulings must likewise be Just and Merciful. I disagree strongly with the notion that we must know the context and history of a verse! I will give an example: Suppose a Ph.D student asks his Professor to work on deriving a new equation. This equation helps the world solve, real world issues. In the future was it necessary for us to know who asked whom? Or at which University or venue this all took place? No. What is important, is the result. The Quran itself also negates the notion of having to know the "WHEN" THE "WHERE " THE "HOW." Dr Ally touched on this concept from the Quran, it is known as IJTIHAD. The Quran is not stuck in 7th Century Arabia, by applying logic and having a COUNCIL OF INTELLECTUALS, such verses that may have been for those times can be updated to our times. But be careful, for what you wish for. Here is food for thought: A Madrasah taught Sheik decided to go and visit Dubai. He heard it was a wonderful City, very high tech. When he gets out of the airport he gets in a taxi. The driver says " Salam ya Sheik." He replies but quickly asks the driver to put out his cigarette as it is haram. He does so. A minute later the Sheik says to him why do you not have a beard, you are Muslim, aren't you? It is haram, not to keep a beard. Not a couple of minutes go by when the Sheik tells the driver to turn off the radio as singing is haram. At this point the taxi driver has had enough. He pulls over and tells the Sheik to kindly get out, despite not completing the journey. He tells the Sheik "I am fed up with all your nonsense, please go and find a Camel to take you on the rest of your journey, as this taxi is also haram for you!" So dear brothers and sisters just remember to utilise the knowledge of Alims and use the process of Itjihad. ( By the way, I agree smoking is bad for you, its a dirty habit. So with nice words and tune are good for the soul and mind, they are not haram, as the Quran has not made music haram). JZK

@najmu49

2 жыл бұрын

Qur'an e Sharif is allegorical, esoteric and the light to guide humanity at all places and at all times. It is a "clear kitab/book". Those grounded in knowledge - 'ulil amr' can interpret it, the Holy Book tells us. It allows for a range of interpretation. Most Merciful Allah will forgive us if we err in our understanding.

If Quran were from God, it would have provided context from the life of the prophet, just like the Bible does for Abraham, Moses, David, and Jesus. As it is, Quran written in 6th century, context written in 3 centuries later! Even the Quran acknowledges this. It recounts the NARRATIVES of the prophet as recorded in the Bible, not the SAYINGS. God's ultimate revelation for mankind has always been the Bible. True before the Quran. True after the Quran.

@strawberry-fj7zu

3 жыл бұрын

that can't be true because the bible has been changed a 100 times so it's not Gods words anymore.

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

Manuscript evidence shows that the Bible has not been changed. Textual analysis of the Quran is starting to show the same textual variants. Please be consistent in your standards.

@vanHansdebaer

3 жыл бұрын

​@@strawberry-fj7zu Do you have proof of this? Or are you just parroting what the Muslims say? I mean I understand why Muslims say that, because otherwise they would have to acknowledge that the Quran cannot be the truth. Do you know the story "Seven Sleepers"? This story also appears in the Qur'an (18:9-26)? This is a story from the year AD 250 to which was written by a cleric of the Syrian Orthodox Church. The same story appears in the Qur'an. How can this be? The Quran is the word of God but it takes a story from a cleric of the Syrian Orthodox Church? Also, the Quran uses many Aramaic words and the Quran claims to be pure Arabic. Did you know that the Quran

@savanasymbat3165

3 жыл бұрын

@@strawberry-fj7zu Christianity makes no sense. How can you defend the Bible which is full of racism and violence?

And another scholar showing the Qur'an was not preserved. 😂😂😂 Aah but people could not exactly remeber the verse completely or forgot for what it was revealed. 😂😂😂 I expected nonsense, but I did not think it would be this bad. Ffs I can't stop laughing 😂😂😂. This so dumb.

@zavar3485

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see how this question has any relevance regarding preservation. Your statement is just diverting to another issue (red herring fallacy) and is also relaxing on insults (ad hominem).

@talisupremacy7176

3 жыл бұрын

@@zavar3485 😒 Islam is rotting your brain.

@MyFootYourFace

2 жыл бұрын

@@talisupremacy7176 thanks, off you go!

Dr. Ally claims the Quran is for all humankind. Was not the New Testament also for all humankind? The theme of the New Testament is that of God's love for mankind whom he made in his own image. The New Testament explains God's plan of reconciliation for mankind "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." 1 Corinthians 15:45. " For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16. Why would the Islamic god deceive millions of Jews and subsequent Christians, into believing Christ was crucified only to claim hundreds of years later that he only made it "appear" that he died??? Without being coerced, what appeal does the Quran have for a female audience?

@sukaisnaini1843

3 жыл бұрын

and what about old testament? does it wrong? or its not from god? thanks

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

@@sukaisnaini1843 Both Old and New Testaments are from God.

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr The Trinity is presented in the Old Testament and New Testament. You don't really know the Bible, do you?

@phun1901

3 жыл бұрын

​@AB Nr You can't claim to actually know what prophets taught before Mohammad if you are also going to insist that we can't trust their scriptures. All you can assert is that Mohammad claimed to know what the previous prophets said. If you were sincerely convinced that people have come along and corrupted the messages of previous prophets you would need to be skeptical of Mohammad's claim to be the sole source of reliable information. It makes no sense to say history is fraught with lairs and heretics, and let one man edit and overrule every account of history.

@sukaisnaini1843

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterhwang1860 so the correct statement will be like Was not the "Old and New Testament also for all humankind?"

Its for Mankind. How difficult is it to understand. Muhammad SAW was a universal prophet such prophets like Adam AS, Noah AS, Abraham AS , and Musa AS. Other prophets such as Jesus AS, Lut AS etc are sent to a particular people and nation, town and city.

@rolandboston48774

3 жыл бұрын

Watch trajectory hermeneutics of Mufti Abu Layth

@camilla_cruncheee

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolandboston48774 stay away from this guy. He has no understanding if the Quran. This guy is explaining something he has no grasp of. It is different what law of the country is and the law of God is.

The problem is that the Quran provides no context. This was extrapolated centuries later. The Quran was written at a time when Arabic was just an oral language, and Nabatean Aramaic was just starting to be used as a written language to represent it, as occurs when Christian missionaries try to invent a new written language for a people group they are trying to reach. As such, there was a mismatch between the oral and written language, and the written alphabet of Nabatean Aramaic did not adequately sound out the spoken Arabic language. Later, diacritical marks were added to make the distinction. However, by that time, people did not know what the original intent of the Quranic author was. This led to a proliferation of Arabic versions, called the qiraats. Kind of an interesting choice of language for God's eternal uncreated word for all time, no? All of this points to a date of writing earlier than 600, because diacritics were already commonly used, as attested by ancient Arabic non-quranic inscriptions. Of course, the Quran lagged behind because nobody knew what diacritics to use. The very early date for the Quran is supported by recent carbon dating. The most likely date for the Birmingham Quran manuscript is 605, which pre dates the supposed prophetic career of Muhammad. And it is no first draft, containing extra consonantal markings, verse separators, and the modern ordering of the surahs. Older manuscripts have been dated from Sanaa, but these have not been as well publicized. So we have no idea who actually penned the Quran and under what circumstances. We do know that the kingdom of Himyar worshipped ar Rahman as its chief deity who had many similarities to the Jewish God. We also know that the last king of Himyar attacked Christians in the 6th century and tried to rally the Arabs and Sassinids behind him, insisting that ar Rahman has no son.

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

All of it is based on evidence. Just look it up. Look up the origins of written Arabic, carbon dating of Quranic manuscripts, the kingdom of Himyar, and Dhu Nuwas. I am not making this stuff up.

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr You guys were not the first to come up with the all-powerful transcendent God of the Bible. But the amazing thing about this God is that as special revelations throughout human history he has lowered himself into creation to reveal himself to the people he loves. He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden, he spoke to Abraham as a friend, and he appeared to Moses. The greatest of these revelations was the life of Jesus the Messiah. Please do not blaspheme by calling unholy the kindness and gentleness of God.

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr The crucifixion and resurrection of the Messiah Son of God were proclaimed by the apostles immediately, founding the Church in Jerusalem. Christians were persecuted by the same enemies of Jesus, which included Paul, scattering Christians across the Mediterranean world. All of this is recorded in the New Testament, which is supported by archeology and history. This is real history recorded as it happened. Surely if you want to question this, you would also question the stories of Muhammad that were only written down centuries after his death?

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr No eyewitnesses to the crucifixion? There were a million Jews in Jerusalem for the Passover. He spoke to his disciples and his mother from the cross. This was a very public spectacle. Where do you get the idea there were no eyewitnesses? From the Quran, written 500 years later?

@peterhwang1860

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr There can be copyist errors when biblical books are transcribed, just like the Quran. Is this what you mean? One number here, a different number there...

Please watch Christian Prince channel to see how islamic doctrines holds scrutiny👍😌🙏

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr We are waiting for Mr. Ally, but his phd has been in doing the latest 10 years😌😌😌that was his excuse. Other dawah guys wants to see his face😌😌😌it seems to be for me that islam is not even daif

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr Firstly Mohammed said to Aisha that a angellke small child who was not in the age to do sin in whose funeral they attended may enter either place in hereafter. Aisha thought otherwise. In christianity the child will enter heaven. Mohammed said to you to not to do your own interpretations about Bible but to ask people of the book. You throwed your prophet under the bus right away. Look for the hadith yourself.

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr We have a loving god, who goes ahead of us and leads us in front of us.He humbled himself and lived amongts us. He solved the issue of sin.Only almighty god can do it. A pagan god cannot do it. Who does pagan god love⁉️⁉️⁉️

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr Thirdly Al-Lah is eternal, uncreated, physical and he cannot cease to exist. Al-Lah has though 3️⃣ eternal uncreated physical shapes. Is he then 1+1+1=3 or 1+1+1=1⁉️⁉️⁉️

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

@AB Nr 1️⃣st shape, Al-Lah of parts: 👀👅👃chin💪💪2 right hands🦶 one foot. Is he not then many not one⁉️⁉️⁉️ Al-Lah is more strange than Frankensteins monster, jumping with one foot and always in imbalance due of 2 right hands.

Abc

@fragrantrose2238

3 жыл бұрын

Abc