This is the most forced debate of all time. Messi is clearly the better football player. Every person who understands this sport knows that .

@terefefeyssa877

Жыл бұрын

Tito: I totally disagree with you. Do you really know my uncle?

@ggff8385

Жыл бұрын

People who have played football know that😎

@gomessylvester205

Жыл бұрын

@@terefefeyssa877 Who ever yor uncle is, do you realy listen to him ??????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

@diegolisandror2

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, i mean Federer vs Nadal is a fair comparison, but this one is just forced and stupid tbh

@btfpl4872

Жыл бұрын

without a doubt

Ronaldo: speaks he's better Messi: Acts he's better

@dexterous0215

Жыл бұрын

👎👎👎

@naradiprabaswara8390

Жыл бұрын

@@dexterous0215 ronaldo several times has said that’s hes better then messi while messi he barely even talks about ronaldo and looking at records individual awards and stats messi is the best in all 3 of them

@dexterous0215

Жыл бұрын

@@naradiprabaswara8390 👎

@dexterous0215

Жыл бұрын

@@naradiprabaswara8390 in an interview Messi was asked where he sees Ronaldo. He replied he sees him in his own level/league/status( something like that). U don't even know what you are saying.👎

@naradiprabaswara8390

Жыл бұрын

@@dexterous0215 well then ronaldo has said many times that’s he’s better than has messi never claimed himself to the goat no,but his stats and individual awards,trophies show it not words

Messi is an organizer, he is the Architect of the team, he plans everything and execute with surgical precision, he constantly draws opponents to him to create pockets of space for his teammates to move in. Ronaldo is that guy that runs in a 4 x 100m relay as the 4th runner because he wants to cross the finish line himself, guess what, he still waiting for the stick to be handed to him. Ronaldo's biggest achievement is to be compared to Messi.

@kssam8888

Жыл бұрын

Messi might be the most overrated player of all time

@Averagewaterdispenser7223

Жыл бұрын

@@kssam8888 looks like someone has been crying since 18th December

@excelsiorproducts6569

Жыл бұрын

@@kssam8888 Looking at Messi's achievements and still be compared to the rest is the opposite of overrated, comparing the rest to Messi meaning Messi is the best, you don't compare the best to the worst, it's the other way round, to be compared to Messi is an achievement on it's own, ask CR7, he opened up in that Pierce Morgan interview, quote 'its because of Messi I became a better footballer'

@aafootballtipstv4474

8 ай бұрын

@@kssam8888 Cr7 chases Messi shadow. Messi didn't compete with anyone, he's in the league of his own. Comparing Cr7 with Messi is the most stupid thing to do. You can compare Maradona and Pele but not tapin penaldoski merchant called CRY7😁😀🤣

@giulio_yt651

6 ай бұрын

​@@kssam8888heavy drugs spotted

"There's a huge difference between being a great player and a great goalscorer.". - by someone

@RamonAcosta191

Жыл бұрын

Messi is both, the best player and goal scorer. Messi is the best Assists player, best createdr and goal scorer.

@Stoplookingatmynameowpe

Жыл бұрын

_ cruyff

@coc3startricks67

Жыл бұрын

by non other than the great johan cryuff

@Alud631

Жыл бұрын

@@RamonAcosta191 what about ronaldo

@RamonAcosta191

Жыл бұрын

@entixityy CR7 is Great Goal Scorer and Good Assist provider. But Messi is just better.

In my point of view it is not the trophies only.yes,trophies are the most valuable achievements.. But the main fact is art... And surely,surely and Again surely messi is the art,his playing activities are the art... That's why he is the magician!!! Like Maradona ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@mark7831

Жыл бұрын

Exactly I no my football Maradona was my mentor in 80s 90s and now my son has Messi as his idol

@zhangbenson5475

Жыл бұрын

can't agreed more, a race apart

@wamnicho

Жыл бұрын

Trophies are team achievements not individual,

@check4566

Жыл бұрын

ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi

@mtrajano973

8 ай бұрын

@@check4566honestly that right there should settle the debate

Messi is two players in one. Now he has shown the world he can do all the things he was unfairly critized for. Win big tournaments. Scoring and assisting. A leader in all sense of the word. As good as C Ronaldo is, I can't say the aforemention qualities. Messi clearly is better. Argentina campeones gracias seleccion! 🇦🇷🏆

@cjmarthins1128

Жыл бұрын

If messi is two players in one than Ronaldo is straight up a one man army, he’s shown the ability to just become an entire team if need be, Messi has always played with other superstars

@hefipaleburp9543

Жыл бұрын

@@cjmarthins1128 Read what you just wrote. Analyze it. Come back corrected.

@25slyfox

Жыл бұрын

​@@cjmarthins1128 so since he's a one man army what happened at the world cup 😂.

@MrEpic6996

10 ай бұрын

​@@cjmarthins1128messi is better goal scorer,better assister and better playmaker After 1000+ games and 800+ goals and 350+assists😂

@smelly6982

9 ай бұрын

@@cjmarthins1128 better player = superstars why do you think Ronaldo started at scp Porto but Messi started at Barcelona? speaks for itself.

​It was over a decade ago. This year it's just been certified in the biggest of stage.

@michaeljordan310

3 ай бұрын

it was over a decade ago cuz cr7 won 3 ucl in a row finishing the goat debate ON THE BIGGEST STAGE OF FOOTBALL, the ucl, world cup is the 2nd, and still cr7 is bigger with national teams.

@ebaka4639

3 ай бұрын

the world cup is 100 percent bigger than the ucl the world cup happens every 4 years and the ucl happens every season the world cup is clearly more prestigious.@@michaeljordan310

@ABADDON521

3 ай бұрын

​💀💀 UCL>WC @@michaeljordan310

@M_maara_chozhan2969

3 ай бұрын

​@@michaeljordan310 Average ronaldo fan 😂😂😂....how tf UCL is ahead of world cup?

@TheCloveOne

Ай бұрын

​@@michaeljordan310if that makes you feel better then then ok 😂😂😂😂😂😂. This foolishness of Ronaldo's fans is turning into something else 😂😂😂

Messi dances with the ball in the same way Fred Astaire used to dance with Ginger Rogers! Such a classy act!

@JF..

Жыл бұрын

Fred Astaire died June 22, 1987 and Messi was born 24 June 1987. A day after, Coincident?

@colorin81colorado

Жыл бұрын

@@JF.. wow, wow, wow! A very interesting fact!

@check4566

Жыл бұрын

ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi

@kssam8888

Жыл бұрын

@@check4566 How many fake stats you want to create lol 😂

@check4566

Жыл бұрын

@@kssam8888 You gonna say which ones is fake?

Messi has scored hundreds of goals while also having the most assists in history, he clearly makes his team better in every aspect. Ronaldo doesn’t even have a fraction of Messi’s assists, he’s a good goal scorer unfortunately Football is more than scoring, in most other aspects of the game Messi miles better.

@Havickgamingyt

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure scoring a goal is the whole point of the game...

@steffandua2047

Жыл бұрын

Messi is the sole reason why goals are created. for a large minority of Ronaldo's career goals are created for him. thats the difference between those two

@anwaremritte

Жыл бұрын

​@@Havickgamingyt well in that case u dont know football. For u defenders goalkeepers passers dribblers have no value. Only those who score goals have value as ccording to u.

@chefizzy2238

Жыл бұрын

@@Havickgamingyt a lot more to the game than scoring, if you played you’d know. If it was just about scoring there be more than 2-3 goals a game

@Elistic4443d

Жыл бұрын

@@steffandua2047bro really just said messi the reason why goals are a thing😂😂

You didn’t mention the 2 golden ball he won at World Cup in 2014 and 2022

@BallXKnowledge

Жыл бұрын

He robbed both so it does'nt matter

@IceCold-zk9cp

Жыл бұрын

@@BallXKnowledge According to FootballXEDITZ, Messi's golden balls are robbed so he must give them back😡

@cycm5

Жыл бұрын

Simply said robbed 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Jealousy is difficult to cure 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. 5 UCL and 5 Ballon d'or by Penaldo also robbed 😭😭😭😅😅😅

@danielgedeon6454

Жыл бұрын

@@cycm5 look at Pessi in UCL🤡🤡🤡 invisible as always, we don’t see him when it’s not penalties

@yeet_editzofficial

Жыл бұрын

​@@danielgedeon6454messi has only won 1 champions League less than Ronaldo bruh and how is he invisible? In 2009 he scored a banging header in the final

I am trying to see the rational for this debate for years and I can't see it. Only those who watch sports news only would debate that CR7 is close to Messi. Everyone who watch football knows that the debate is farcical and forced. Messi is the goat hands down. Messi is night and day better # 🐐

@funnykitten2927

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@RamonAcosta191

Жыл бұрын

💯

@ChangeYourLife1122

Жыл бұрын

💯👌,

@gomessylvester205

Жыл бұрын

The debate was settled in 2009 when Messi beat Ronaldo in the UCL Final. They forced it to - until Messi wins an international, though Ronaldo didn’t win an International until 2016 that too from the bench. It should have been “Till Ronaldo beats Messi in a UCL final” ! Ronaldo-holics inflated his stats with that International achievement ( bench trophy)! When Messi won the COPA they said - not as good as EURO. Now he won the WC. Now they have nothing to say - so they are trying to tarnish his achievements.

@ChangeYourLife1122

Жыл бұрын

@@gomessylvester205 well said, truth hurts

Cr7 is simply liked through sentiments and desire of flair. Messi is The embodiment of football genius in many aspects of the sports. Not to minimize CR7 skills. Messi has the receipts.

@kaushikravi9229

Жыл бұрын

Bro teaches Peter Drury

@dexterous0215

Жыл бұрын

- pessi bot

@naradiprabaswara8390

Жыл бұрын

@@dexterous0215 if messi is a bot then ronaldo is a penalty merchant

@dexterous0215

Жыл бұрын

@@naradiprabaswara8390 - pessibot

@gomessylvester205

9 ай бұрын

@@dexterous0215 You are disastrous!

In terms of numbers, one thing always gets ignored when it is IMHO actually the tie breaker: Messi: 5.22 shots per goal Ronaldo: 6.43 shots per goal Paired with the minutes-per-goal stat and the goals-per-game stat the big picture becomes clear. Ronaldo took more shots per game (i.e. chances that needed to be created for him) while still scoring fewer goals per game. Add to that Messi's superior playmaking qualities (as mirrored in the number of assists) and the debate is settled, at least in terms of objective criteria. On a subjective level, there will always be many reasons to prefer one over the other. And that is fine. Christiano's achievements are beyond impressive. Anyone who tries to downplay that for the sake of some GOAT debate is just a hater and/or fanboy. Same goes for endless claims of Messi's achievements being marred by playing for Barcelona for so long and inflationary use of the term "farmer league". What a giant pile of BS. Cheers everyone.

@vutunglam3934

8 ай бұрын

tbh, I think Messi is just better liked, stats aside, one is a humble, family man who is liked and revered by all teammates, coaches and an entire nation, while the other is arrogant and dive a lot. His diving tendency alone is enough to tarnish his legacy in my eyes.

@giannismargaris9553

8 ай бұрын

​@@vutunglam3934i dont think that diving hurts ronaldos legacy, but he is a butthurt person and arrigant. Plus messi is simply better

@joshiler2157

7 ай бұрын

Because the shots per goal stat is so stupid that's why lmao.

@giannismargaris9553

7 ай бұрын

@@joshiler2157 not really. Ronaldo takes more chances per game thats why he scores a lot.

@cosmosokpighe4962

5 ай бұрын

Messi having better shots per game shows Messi as a better and more efficient finisher. Add to that Messi still has more non-penalty goals than Ronaldo. Ronaldo just has more power, more shot power. Messi has more finesse, more precision-except on penalties. Messi can chip both with his weak foot. Not sure Ronaldo can. Yes Ronaldo is better with his head. But overall, if I'm to pick a striker of the two, I'd pick Messi.

Guys, the goat debate never existed, Messi will stay as the goat until he dies, I respect Ronaldo but, the guy is best at finishing and physicality, but Messi is out of this world , regard their trophies and individual awards,but Messi is not a human when it comes to playing, you mentioned that Ronaldo is 142 games ahead of Messi, Messi has 792 goals and cr7 has 819 goals, that's 27 goals away from Messi, imagine if Messi was to play 142, probably he was going to have more goals than Ronaldo, but still the ratio is low , guys, according to my conclusion,Messi is the number one best player of all time and I see Ronaldo as someone who is doing he's best to reach the level of Messi, which he cannot and he will never😅, we always tell them the same thing, no one can defeat the God of football himself, so people let's stop putting Messi and cr7 as if they were on the same level, Messi is on other level that no one could describe, finish and clear 😎😎

@shaquillethomas1544

Жыл бұрын

Messi has 794 goals now hes wrong in this video

@shaquillethomas1544

Жыл бұрын

Messi is the Goat we all knows that

@kamilw1507

Жыл бұрын

Explain 7 goals 5 penalties then

@greninja7669

Жыл бұрын

@@kamilw1507?? Cr7 has more penalty goals than messi. What r u saying

@ameeer3

Жыл бұрын

@@kamilw1507 explain why we call that dude Penaldo first

As someone who was a huge Ronaldo fan in the Real Madrid era around 2014-2015, I can say Ronaldo has really fallen off due to his primadonna nature and I can't say I'm a fan of him anymore. He is still incredibly skilled, but Messi is much humbler and isn't out to fight with coaches/teammates/staff at the clubs he plays for. The whole Man United drama really soured my opinion of him. I have a lot more respect for Messi than Ronaldo now and do think Messi is the better player overall, especially now that time has passed and we can see how Messi has evolved.

@giannismargaris9553

8 ай бұрын

Facts. Plus messi was always better than ronaldo

@jacobin1632

7 ай бұрын

Agree

@seo9ja572

6 ай бұрын

U based ur judgment of the best player based on their character? Talking strictly about football, Messi is still way better than Ronaldo.

@Endvi459

5 ай бұрын

Now that's the real football fan not like some toxic fans can't accept the fact , well I'm Barca fan from 2009 Messi is my fav. Player he is always better but somehow I used to like Ronaldo scoring ability with some style but with his attitude overtime I don't like him anymore he loose his dignity .

@slepk7898

5 ай бұрын

Bro I'm die hard United fan I became fan of United cause of Cr7 I was like obsessed with this guy when I was little I cursed Messi and so on even prayed that he lose the wc final against Germany which it happened and I was celebrating, however I was tired defending Ronaldo like seriously when are u gonna grow up I became a man before he became one it's just constant arrogance and dives and stealing teammates spotlight he acts like a little kid but he is nothing special if you take away his teammates, I understood Messi is on whole different level and I'm glad I will die Messi fan he is just a pure example of a perfect footballer and talent deserves all the success can't hate this guy anymore Ronaldo made me like him sorry.not sorry

Messi is Maradona's playmaking and Pelé's finishing in one player!

Messi is the GOAT. Case closed.

@spicynugget_0294

Жыл бұрын

Exactly how is this even a debate

@kamilw1507

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldo.

@willrichdouwenga5173

Жыл бұрын

@@kamilw1507 why exactly?

@SouthJohnston

9 ай бұрын

@@willrichdouwenga5173 He has a six pack

@celsiusisbetterthanfarenheit

7 ай бұрын

he also works 10 times as hard@@SouthJohnston

Its 794 goals not 793,the goal he scored against Angers made it 794 and messi is the Goat,stats prove it

@manzialvinthierry3031

Жыл бұрын

tell him because this guy is a cristiano fan he can't end the debate

@kamilw1507

Жыл бұрын

Pessi

@greninja7669

Жыл бұрын

@@kamilw1507 cry

@juulutpoulsen3018

Жыл бұрын

Remove all stats, and you just watch Messi. Pure art.

@shaquillethomas1544

Жыл бұрын

@@manzialvinthierry3031 yea bro majority of them are just delusional

It was never a question for me.. for me Ronaldo perhaps the most complete scorer.. cz he doesn't have any weakness in terms of scoring goals.. but Leo Messi is simply the best.. way ahead of others.. forget world cup or UCL or any awards.. someone who is undoubtedly the greatest dribbler of all time.. one of the best passers.. one of the best free kick taker .. probably the best playmaker n one of the greatest scorer aswell.. how do u wanna compare him with anyone... Leave messi alone then compare others.. basketball Michael Jordan.. cricket Sachin tendulker.. boxing Muhammad Ali.. football Leo Messi... Goat

@ujjawalsingh7530

3 ай бұрын

Ty for describing this perfectly brother. Cristiano Ronaldo for me is probably the best scorer brilliant positioning, shooting, weak foot. Messi is overall complete football player. Pretty much does everything on the pitch and at a good rate. The trophies are team achievement and should not be counted for saying about individual performance.

You don't have to see stats.. You have to see how he plays... Messi always way ahead..

@bigsmoke6805

10 ай бұрын

Both manner of playing and what they gave to their teams - Ronaldo is clear.

@19nope

7 ай бұрын

the stats say messi is better too

@akash2100

7 ай бұрын

@@bigsmoke6805 Yes Ronaldo gave WC to his team..

@slepk7898

5 ай бұрын

​@@bigsmoke6805ye gave dives and arrogance

@bigsmoke6805

5 ай бұрын

@@akash2100 So you want to say a month-long competition matters more than *five* of the most difficult trophy in the world to obtain?

The Goat is the world cup winner. No bias and no other contest.

@Elistic4443d

Жыл бұрын

Okay then mbappe

@SENPAI_12

Жыл бұрын

@@Elistic4443dtill now he's not but he got the potential he will be in future if he's consistent

@rafamessi3867

Жыл бұрын

@@Elistic4443d pendu fans becoming mbappe and pele supporters suddenly

@Elistic4443d

Жыл бұрын

@@rafamessi3867 no i am just using his logic

@dexlus7593

Жыл бұрын

@@rafamessi3867 real Ronaldo fans will support Ronaldo till he dies and won’t shift to support mbappe lol

Player-wise not a debate, goalscoring-wise it was a debate

The difference between the two one is a team player while the other one is an individual player and less team work . Hard work pays for real but natural gift is a blessing that pave way for greatness . Lets appreciate the two best players who has dominated football for decades

Messi without trophies would continue to be better than the rest. Just watch him play.

@sppedben6095

Жыл бұрын

Watched him play now i want to redebate but actually ronaldo wins

@giannisms1861

Жыл бұрын

​@@sppedben6095 cope

@cjmarthins1128

Жыл бұрын

Watching them play only reinforces my belief that Ronaldo is better

@gomessylvester205

Жыл бұрын

@@cjmarthins1128 I don't watch Camel league,! As long as they were in Europe Messi was light years ahead ! 2009 was already the deciding factor and I knew there and then Ronaldo would never come close to Messi ! 2022 WC was the Testimony to my opinion formed in 2009. Ronaldo warmed the bench and Messi won the Cup and the Golden Ball !

@25slyfox

Жыл бұрын

​@@cjmarthins1128 one player after 2014 only scores tap ins and if he can't score he doesn't do anything else on the field unlike messi who can score and create

The debate is over now , let's compare LM10 with Maradona & Pele . They belong to another level.

Yes, Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo, but don't forget that he also has a much better assist ratio. He even made more assists than anyone in history. Messi is the complete footballer. He doesn't just score, but he's amazing at creating chances. that's why he is still shining at this age.

Its pretty simply. In goals they are fairly similar so we can take that out of the equation. In all other aspects of the game I claim Messi is superior and I dont really know how anyone who understands football can argue against that.

This isn’t a debate please. No player should be compared to Messi respectfully.

@RatnaRoy-sm9br

Ай бұрын

Who is the top goal scorer of all time ?? The debate is not ended

Lionel Messi Greatest Player Of All Time. Ronaldo really tried hard to reach Messi's level we admire his passion. But media only forcing this debate and utilizing this for long .

@sentm7362

Жыл бұрын

No media is forcing its all ronaldo fans

@bigsmoke6805

10 ай бұрын

Such a blatant lie eh?

Ronaldo and Messi honestly gave the football of the world a real battle and everyone's heartbeat with them for two decades. But the Goat debate never existed cause we were watching the things that we never seen before from Messi which is impossible to believe if the moments were not filmed and Ronaldo was showing what other players can do but with much hard work. As the world was defending Ronaldo by criticizing Messi at his national career especially after Ronaldo won the Euro 2016. So, Messi was calm and made these debates to settle by winning over the South America champions Brazil at Copa America, the Euro champions Italy and finally the World champions France at the world cup in a row. After this there is nothing to say except accepting the real GOAT and respecting Ronaldo because they gave football something special for history.

@cosmosokpighe4962

5 ай бұрын

In simple Summary, Ronaldo does things other great footballers can do, goals, long shots, headers, acrobatics and all. But he does them more consistently than everyone else. Messi does things that makes you ask questions, that makes you wonder, that are unheard of, that has never been seen or done before, that makes you wonder if you'd ever see them again. Messi, I have never seen a goal scorer with so many assists than a playmaker. I have never seen a playmaker with so many goals than a striker.

@TheScholesEra

5 ай бұрын

Good comment, too much disrespect to ronaldo in this comment section.

MESSI IS CLEAR

CR7 has worked so hard and has kept his level of discipline in a so high level that sometimes he even manages to equal Messi. Prime Messi was an anomaly in football that wasn't seen since Pelé.

@bigsmoke6805

10 ай бұрын

It's more like Messi sometimes reached the regular Tuesday heights of the GOAT. Fr, his best achievement is having ever been compared to Ronaldo.

@petersylvester23

10 ай бұрын

@@bigsmoke6805 What are you even talking about, the "GOAT" top score in a year is 77 goals, Messi keeps the record with 91. Messi has a 122 less games than Ronaldo and still has only 30 less goals. Messi has a bigger g/a rate than Ronaldo. Messi is more victorious than Ronaldo, holding 40 titles while CR7 has 33, 7 less titles. Messi is also greatest than Ronaldo in terms of individual achievements, holding 31 prizes against Ronaldo's 21. It's PURE LOGIC, Ronaldo for sure is Mr. Champions League and the greatest player from Portugal, but Messi is the GOAT.

@bigdane8828

10 ай бұрын

​@@bigsmoke6805other way around my friend

@bigdane8828

10 ай бұрын

​@@petersylvester23ngl I don't even think CR7 is the best player in Portugal. He underperformed a lot in international football, not saying he's bad, but not as good as expected. I mean, he did score a hat trick against Spain which is his best international performance but that's about it

@petersylvester23

10 ай бұрын

@@bigdane8828 Yeah in fact he had the some of best generation in Portugal's history with him but still didn't manage to achieve a WC semi-final (as Eusébio did with Portugal).

Ronaldinho told Kobe Bryant that Messi is the best player in the world. And Ronaldinho was the reigning Ballon D'Or winner that year in 2005. There was never really a debatw to begin with. Social media hyped one guy up so bad. Initially it was just his great body, chiselled good looks then the useless comparison to a true footballing genius, Messi.

Messi is the most complete player of all times, he have all the skills and trophies. And he can add another Copa America and another UEFA Champions and balón d’or while Ronaldo is buried in Al-Nassau

It's always Messi the GOAT

Undeniably Messi

You forgot to highlight that, while Messi was the best player in the world cup, Ronaldo had a disappointed tournament. And Messi still playing at the highest level. He has the chance to win a Champions League title and another balon d'or. Ronaldo, well... Ronaldo has been great, don't take me wrong. But the debate between who's better between them is over. And of course the debate between Messi and Maradona is also over. The debate between Pelé and Messi is another kind of monster.

@bigsmoke6805

10 ай бұрын

This is called recency bias. Ronaldo has proven everything, including the most competitive football tournament - UCL. WC or no WC, Messi can't reach him.

@samplingmastersxlr8660

7 ай бұрын

with no WC he has failed and flopped period , the UCL doesn't compare to a WC @@bigsmoke6805

Both great and its been a great 20 years watching them destroy teams and grace us with there undeniable wonderful talent ❤

lol, The Brazilian Ronaldo de Lima and Ronaldinho were better than portugal Ronaldo. Please stop make stupid comparisons because Messi is in a league of his own.

@kssam8888

Жыл бұрын

They were better than hgh goblin too

The debate is over. Messi is the best

Messi is the GOAT. The debate is over

Ronaldo fans who respect messi and have still like ronaldo while accepting messi as the GOAT are few to none Even after all the statistucs and clearly better play and trophies they would still call it robbed or rigged Or how ronaldo had injuries or how the invisible media is abusing ronaldo They never got an argument

I agree with many that the debate is forced due to business money. Messi is GOD and CR7 tried to become the best and became the second, but the gap between them is clear to everybody when Messi goes past 7 defenders regularly and CR7 does some nice fashion trick just before passing the ball backwards. Messi is better footballer, better finisher, better dribbler, better passer, better teammate, less selfish, less egocentric, less polemic, and overall better person which makes me happy to see him succeed. And this last World Cup is the pinnacle of his amazing career. I would lastly propose what it could be a nice debate for CR7. Who has been the best "Ronaldo" in history? (The one that has two World cups, the one that has one World cup or the one that never played even a final?)

@RonaldoHater777

6 ай бұрын

I agree Messi is the goat but CR7 is the best Ronaldo ever, stop acting like a child.

MESSI is by far the best, the greatest footballer of all time. The only one in football history to have won EVERYTHING, BOTH INDIVIDUALLY & COLLECTIVELY.

MESSI IS DEFINITELY THE GOAT. He is better in nearly every category. Goals are the main thing that keeps Ronaldo in this conversation but he played much more games. When it is all set and done messi may have more goals and a better goal ratio. Ronaldo is amazing but messi is just a little bit better.🤝

Always the king will be messi

Most unbiased and fair: Messi has the best goalscoring ratio of all-time. Most assists as well. Ronaldo has the most goals atm but needed more games than Messi to reach that amount. But even when you remove the goals out of the equation, you'll see Messi dominate every stat. He has more successful dribbles, passes, assists. When you apply the eye test Messi is also the better player. He can score, but also build up towards a goal. He can dictate the game but also finish it. Ronaldo is a great player, one of the best ever. He has lots of flair, amazing skill moves in his prime, a big personality and scored so much. Also assisted a lot (but not as much as Messi and not of the quality of Messi's assists). When you look at awards and titles, Messi also wins. He has a world cup, most trophies in history of the game. Messi has 7 balon d'Ors, the most ever. He scored 91 goals in a year. Nobody has ever reached that number and he didn't do that as a classical striker. He also assisted a lot. Only competition Ronaldo has won more than Messi is the CL, but he only has 1 more CL to his name. You can also say as an argument against that, that Messi beat Ronaldo a bunch in the CL as well. Messi's Barca beat Real in the CL and United in a final. With Messi being very important and incredible in both those matches. Messi has also humiliated Ronaldo's Real quite a bunch. In their head to head confrontations Messi won the most and displayed the better football. And at the end of the day you shouldn't even compare trophies or the Balon d'Or. Because you need teammates to secure that. Just use your eyes. Messi outdribbless entire defences by himself. Prime Messi had to be guarded by the entire team. While prime Ronaldo was being covered by 2/3 players. I've seen Dani Alves hold his own against Ronaldo in 1 on 1s in El Classico. At the moment Messi just had 1 player in front of him it was game over. Messi dribbles better, passes better, gives more complex passes, has better vision, is deceptively strong, the strongest defenders failed to push him off the ball. Seen Casemiro struggle to use his body against him. Even at 35 Gvardiol was unable to push him off the ball, Messi is agile, fast on the ball, always makes the right decisions, in his prime he'd also press like no other, re-cover the ball, help out in defence, he was a powerhouse. Its so painfully clear to me how much better Messi is. It was already clear to me in 2009 after following him for 4 years since 2005. Back in 2009 me and my friends would say he merely has to prove himself for a year or 2-4 more and his legacy would be cemented. Look at us now. He went above and beyond.

@OnlyOneFootball-og9rc

8 ай бұрын

Fax

@user-oj4mu9dz8k

5 ай бұрын

Thanks bro😂

Messi not doubt from start till now...this debate was never a debate from start...

*THERE WAS NEVER A DEBATE TO BEGIN WITH!!!*

*** Number of career penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 151 - MESSI: 109 *** World Cup goal contributions excluding penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 7 goal contributions in 22 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) - MESSI: 17 goal contributions in 26 appearances (not including his 4 penalty goals) *** Copa America/European Championship goal contributions excluding penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 17 goal contributions in 25 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) - MESSI: 27 goal contributions in 34 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) *** Goal contributions excluding penalty goals in World Cup/Copa America/European Championship KNOCKOUT games *** - RONALDO: 5 goal contributions in 19 knockout stage appearances (not including penalty goals) - MESSI: 25 goal contributions in 28 knockout stage appearances (not including penalty goals) These numbers tell us something about why Ronaldo has helped his national team reach only 2 European Championship/World Cup finals (and played only in one that he lost and made 0 goal contributions) while Messi has helped his teams reach 6 Copa America/World Cup finals and won 2. Messi has 1 goal contribution per World Cup/Copa America knockout game, while Ronaldo has 0.26 goal contributions per World Cup/European Championship knockout game 😂😂😂😂

About equal: goals scored, goals per game, pace Messi: assists, dribbling, passing, free kicks, left foot Ronaldo: penalties, right foot, diving

Lol even when they attempt to exclude important statics like Assists .... Messi still comes out on top. 😂😂😂

Ok since people are still dragging on this unnecessary debate, let's decide a match between 11 Messis and 11 Ronaldos... result will be landslide victory and you know very well WHO is winning.

To say who is better between Messi and Ronaldo you don’t need stats, you need eyes. And Messi is overwhelmingly better. The real debate should be between Messi, Maradona and Pele.

@kssam8888

Жыл бұрын

Eyes said Ronaldo better He's way more complete player than Messi. Messi is just a g/a

@GhuruThePesGuy

Жыл бұрын

@@kssam8888 🧢

@mercurialnemesis3120

Жыл бұрын

@@kssam8888 can ronaldo run the midfield and a game? without camping in the box theres literally nothing to his game

@skyriselimited7

4 күн бұрын

​@@kssam8888 wtf😂

At the end of the day it's extremely hard to find a goat in a team sport since there are just too many variables.

Once their careers are over and they have retired we need this debate put into a 3 part video 1st part Europe where it talks about there club careers playing for man u barca real Madrid juventus and psg 2nd international talking about there times playing with the national teams and 3rd retirement talking about there times playing in the mls and Saudi league and where ever else they may play in these last few years

Let's be fair tho; For me Messi is the goat and always has been but Ronaldo was a hell of a player and deserves respect. He is not number one but definitely number two.

@steven_wise

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@matsungtemjen3999

7 ай бұрын

​@@steven_wiseI'm a Ronaldo fan too bro😅. Our life is miserable now😂

@seo9ja572

6 ай бұрын

​@@matsungtemjen3999lmao 😅

@nikitamandawat

6 ай бұрын

Not number 2. There were players who played better football than him. Hes a great goalscorer though.

@kingjahad100

5 ай бұрын

​@@matsungtemjen3999Nice try Messi fan

Stats mean jack really, you only need eyes and a minor common sense to notice the insane amount of natural, effortless talent that Messi possess.

This debate ended long ago. REST.

In the future, 40 years from now, if we are still alive, we will all remember Messi. I can't say the same about Ronaldo.

No doubt, Messi is the real Goat in Football history. Thank you,

Messi True GOAT. 🐐❤️🇦🇷

Lionel Andrés Messi Individual Awards Ballon d’Or: 8 FIFA World Player of the Year: 7 La Liga Player of the Year: 9 European Golden Shoe: 6 Laureus World Sports Award: 2 World Cup Golden Ball: 2 UEFA Men’s Player of the Year: 2 Copa America Most Valuable Player: 2 Club Records La Liga titles: 10 Copa del Rey titles: 7 UEFA Champions League titles: 4 Most goals for Barcelona: 672 Most trophies won at Barcelona: 35 Most games played for Barcelona: 778 Most goals in La Liga: 474 Most hat-tricks in La Liga: 36 Most goals in El Clasico: 26 Most goals in a La Liga season: 50 [2011-12 season] Most goals for club and country in a year [Guinness World Record]: 91 [2012] Most goals in the UEFA Champions League with the same team: 120 With Barcelona - Over the course of 778 games with the club, Messi scored 672 goals, ahead of Brazil great Pele, who scored 643 goals while playing for Santos. At Barcelona, Messi leads Cesar Rodriguez, who scored 446 goals for the Spanish giants. With Argentina FIFA World Cup 2022 Olympic gold at Beijing 2008 All-time leading goalscorer: 106 Most international caps: 178 Most goals for a South American nation: 106 Youngest Argentinian to score at a World Cup: 18 years 357 days First player to score in four different World Cup tournaments for Argentina Most individual World Cup appearances: 26 Most Argentina World Cup goals: 13 Only player to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarterfinals, semifinals and final The talismanic captain has played 178 matches and scored a record 106 goals, 13 of which have been at the World Cup since 2006. Although a leading player for Argentina, Messi is surpassed by Ronaldo in records for a national team, with 127 goals and 203 matches played. In Argentina, Messi is followed by Gabriel Batistuta, who scored 56 goals for the Albiceleste. In South America, he leads with 106 goals - the most by any player on the continent. I am pretty sure I am missing out on many things. This is an unnecessary and forceful debate. Messi is clearly THE GOAT.

Messi has the most golden balls as well as more golden boots compared to Ronaldo as well as having the better stats and even though Ronny has the most goals , Messi isn’t far behind and since Ronaldo did have more games and started his game earlier which shows how good Messi is and he has the most assists 🐐

CR7, and many others are World Class. Then… you have Messi Class. CR7 and others are amazing. But Messi is magic. You can describe goals scored by others. But you can’t describe a lot of what Messi does. You have to watch them. They are indescribable. The Magic Man.

Comparing Ronaldo to Messi is like comparing Haaland to Mbappe today. Haaland's an absolute goal scoring machine, but simply not in the same stratosphere as Mbappe in terms of what he can do with the ball away from goal.

ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi

Ronny won keague titles with juventus who won 7 in a row before he arrived

In the debate of goat 🐐 status between Messi Vs Ronaldo my opinion is simply that Messi is the best natural born footballer (ie natural ability) whilst Ronaldo is an example of the levels achieved by dedication to one’s craft (ie obsession to be the best via hard work), both goats in their respective ways!.

@deonarayan7679

7 ай бұрын

Penaldo with zero WC ko stage goal is your goat? 😂😅😂😅

@diegovelo

4 ай бұрын

Ronaldo no se obsesiono con ser el mejor, solo se obsesiono con meter más goles, y si eso lo hace feliz está bien. Pero no lo hace mejor.

For me one is a difference between right and left.creativity vs logic, intution vs rationality and so on. Both of them work in a different way..

Its crazy that ronaldo put up a career that is better than 99% of everyone who has ever played this sport, but messi just outclasses him. And i am not saying this as a diss towards ronaldo, its a compliment towards messi. He has the better stats, team trophies (i mean messi won everything even an olympic gold medal for playing football), the better individual trophies and the better prime. And if you take eyetest into consideration as well, than its not really a debate. Messis ball controll is as close to perfect as you could possibly be. He is simply the best

Messi won also 2 wc golden ball.. it's a dream for cr7

@BallXKnowledge

Жыл бұрын

Nope,ronaldo doesent dream to rob awards like goldenball,ballondor,world cup.

@TheRoby9078

Жыл бұрын

@@BallXKnowledge f You crying ueeeeeeeeeeeee

@sickomode9523

Жыл бұрын

@@BallXKnowledge robbed ok 👍 messi is the Goat.

@cycm5

Жыл бұрын

@@BallXKnowledge .. . Its easy to say rob bcoz ur side was lost 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Penaldo also won robbed 5 ucl n 5 ballon d'or🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤑🤑🤑

@BallXKnowledge

Жыл бұрын

@@cycm5 first you should fix your vocabulary. both should have 5 ballondors

Messi is better

Messi already won the debate during the Messi vs Ronaldo definite comparison a few years ago. The only category ronaldo won was winning and it was due to international preformance but now Messi wins that with coppa America and World Cup

The Goat debate is over for sure, not only has Messi has a higher goal per match average across all competitions both national and international 0.81 over 0.71 but more importantly Messi has a significant higher assists per match average 0.35 over Ronaldo’s 0.20 finally Messi won everything a individual football player can win…international level -> FIFA under 21 worldcup in 2005, Olympic Gold medal 2008, Copa America 2021, Finalissima vs Italy 2022, FIFA Worldcup 2022, 7 ballon d’or (8 to be added for 2022 performance) , MVP FIFA 2022, Golden boot 2014, National level: 7 golden boots , Uefa player of the year x 4, 10 league titles, Spanish cup, Spanish supercup, uefa supercup, Barcelona league worldcup , best player Spanish league, I guess Ronaldo knows the debate is over as well. And for the real soccer fans, it is not how many goals you score but a how you score. Almost 80% of all Messi goals are individual works of art, compared to Ronaldo, percentage which by experts is put in the range of approx 29%

The UNDISPUTED GOAT, Lionel Messi!!

This Debate is still insane

For me Messi is No. 1 vision, pass, assist, goal, dribbling, Ronaldo machine goal scorer, 2 typse of players and they are both special bc we can see perfect player, and perfect goal machine. 1.Messi 2.Ronaldo - - - - - - - - - Then the rest for sure❤

Ronaldo is a real GOAT and among the other GOATS. And.... Messi is a real legend among the 3 legends. Pele Maradona Messi PMM - The 3 legends.

@Averagewaterdispenser7223

Жыл бұрын

Tf mean?

@Averagewaterdispenser7223

Жыл бұрын

Messi is above all

@hasanbasri3001

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldo need WC to qualify to legendary list

No doubt Leo is the GOAT

@chetanraikar7055

Жыл бұрын

Agreed bro Messi the GOAT 🐐

Messi and Ronaldo have given more to football than many in history. For 10 years, they provided us with the best football ever seen. That is what we all should appreciate. Individual trophies will always be unfair. This is a team sport. We must set aside narcissism and stop ranking these players above each other. It's like debating whether a Da Vinci painting is better than a Picasso one. We all appreciate based on our perspective and knowledge.

It's crazy really. When ronaldo had more balandor his fan didn't complain. As soon as messi had more it was rigged. Pele said in an older video cr7 was better than messi. They praised pele. Then in a later video he said messi better. Literally people saying pele is a nobody who didn't play against good players. World Cup rigged. UCL aslo rigged. They talk about the paying referee part but nobody is talking about Juventus salary scandal. Where Ronaldo name Came about. Fifa best player award rigged? How ? It was voted by players and managers. Don't tell me messi bought the players and managers.

The next 4 years will be more telling as Messi continues at the top shattering every Ronaldo record has left as he watches on TV Messi possibly retiring at USA in 26 being the first playing 6 WCs with a long "forgotten" Cristiano

messi is goat🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

The comment section just shows how much immature and insecure messi fans are i am not a fan of either but I can certainly say these rivalry between these two players was the best in history and fans of messi here claiming how their opinion is a fact is nothing but pure joke, CR7 and Messi both had immeasurable talent and hardwork and achieved what they deserve imo no one come close to these two They are the best in history 🐐🐐 Fans claiming Ronaldo doesn’t come close to messi is either delusional or they are watching American football

calling the Ballon d'Or Ballon Dior at two occasions is a dead giveaway that you don't watch football 😂

@Proud_Indian_88

8 ай бұрын

Dumb guy it is also called ballon dior

The man with the world cup. Please stop asking,Messi was always better

statistically speaking Messi is the beste . Messi goal/match ratio (0.79 ) Ronaldo (0.72 ) Messi goal+assist (1144) Ronaldo (1053) Messi man of the match (308) Ronaldo (168) Messi outside the box goal (87) Ronaldo (61) Messi inside the box score (539) Ronaldo(554) Messi match played (1,004) Ronaldo (1,145) Messi scores every (103.mnt) Ronaldo (113.4 mnt) Messi total shots attempt (2,844) Ronaldo (3,447) Messi shot on target (1355) Ronaldo (1,418) Wish make a percentage of Messi (47.6%) Ronaldo (41.1%) Si Messi is even more precise with the ball Messi (3,126 )successful dribble Ronaldo (2,024) Goals chances created Messi (393) Ronaldo (176) Key passe Messi (1,324) Ronaldo (890) Assist Messi (350) Ronaldo (234) Free kick Messi (60) on (446) attempt Ronaldo (58) on (532) attempt The free kick conversion makes it Messi :(9.0%) Ronaldo:(6.2%) Now ronaldo is best at only one thing and that’s penalty 😂 Ronaldo (146/175) Messi (108/139) Ronaldo has (819) goals Messi has (794) if we get off Ronaldo penalty and Messi penalty Messi has (685) goals Ronaldo (673) while Messi still had less minute and less match’s 🤣🤣 Now I’m keep it respectful .. but the name penaldo wasn’t created for nothing im juste saying but I’m keep calling him Ronaldo And that right there was statistically why Messi is the best. So Ronaldo has 2 years advantage more game played more minute and Messi still beats him in the most important aspect of the games And to top it all the individual awards just destroyed him Messi (7)ballon d’or Ronaldo (5) ballon d’or best scorer of Europe Messi (6X )soulier d’or Ronaldo (4X )soulier d’or World Cup ballon d’or Messi (2) Ronaldo (none) The GOAT is Lionel Andres messi.

@sekiro2858

Жыл бұрын

Dude you just earned my respect

@NishanT_ACM

Жыл бұрын

@@sekiro2858 and bro just stats messi is way more than just STATS And goals are the things that make ronaldo close to messi But MESSI IS THE GREATEST BEAUTIFIER OF THIS BEAUTIFUL GAME He is an artist YOU CAN'T WATCH RONALDO GAME AS WHOLE UNLESS IF YOU ARE TRUE FAN OF THAT TEAM IN WHICH HE PLAYS HE US MOSTLY A HIGHLIGHT PLAYER but messi he us just different he makes you stick to the game With his drribling,passes,through balls, fks and many more

@zhangbenson5475

Жыл бұрын

can't agreed more, only blind tells in opposite

@souravdutta6300

Жыл бұрын

W bro !

@carnagefxmarketslayers7795

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldo makes 12moves to beat no one Messi makes 3 moves beats 4 to 5 players and makes it look so easy. It's not even a debate

The Champions League is a joke compared to the World Cup! The debate is 100% over, but do not forget Pelé!

More of a Messi fan but please let’s not disrespect Ronaldo. He was equal back in the day.

@pratapr1515

8 ай бұрын

Never except for stats; this just like except forwards, the other field players can never be greats; Stats r not for who know the game; Ronaldo R9, R10 & Zidane, Iniesta were better than CR7; CR7 is a great goal scorer, that’s it

Real Goat One & Only Messi ❤❤❤❤

Best footballer - Messi10 Best influential footballer - CR7 This is why this debat in even alive in the first place because Ronaldo is far influential than Messi therefore he has more fans and they are gonna argue even after all the statistics and games!!

We are fortunate enough to see those 2 players. It should be a show of great football & respect for the beautiful game. Both have inspired people worldwide & has entertained us for a long time. But facts - * Messi is the most decorated team player, has won every team trophy he could. * Messi has the highest goal contributions ever. * Messi has better passing & playmaking abilities. * More disciplined player, has less red cards than CR7 * 1 VS 1 in any competition, Messi has the edge. i.e El Clasico or any other fixture. * Messi has Won U19 WC, WC 2022, Copa America, Finalissima. Has more Player of the Tournament awards. * Had better ratings than CR7 when they both played in Spain. * Messi's overall game is superior, he can score goals, creates chances, provides assists & make key passes. While CR7 is more of a finisher. * Messi has won more Playmaker award than playmakers. Just freakish.! * Messi has won 2 Laureus World Sportsman Award, the NOBEL of Sports. * When asked about GOAT ques MESSI wins by 2/3 margin. Messi makes people's jaws drop. Plays beautifully & magically. FOREVER MESSI #BEST #GOAT 🐐 #GOD ⚽

It's not a fair debate Ronaldo is a great striker 👏 but Messi is everywhere dropping deap amazing passing ability just like Maradona complete different levels 👏

Reality (League+International): Dribble: Messi 3019; R7 1646; Non-penalty Goal: Messi 686; R7: 673; Assist : Messi: 393; R7: 176; Key pass: Messi: 1325; R7: 890; THROUGHBALLS: Messi: 430; R7: 81; World Cup Best: Messi: 1 Champion 1 Runner-up; R7: Semi-final Messi had 796goals in Only 1004 games, while R7 had 819 goals in 1145 games.Goal efficiency: Messi better.

@jgosal1981

Жыл бұрын

And in less games played

@thegamingwolf73179

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldos best World Cup is actually semi finals

@davidlynch1263

Жыл бұрын

@@thegamingwolf73179 2006 ? R7 is not the captain.

@thegamingwolf73179

Жыл бұрын

You didn’t say anything about captian

@davidlynch1263

Жыл бұрын

@@thegamingwolf73179 ok amended

Most forced debate 💯, this was media debate not real debate. And now its finished and rested after world cup.

Whoever knows about Futbol and is no just a fan boy knows who is the best without questions! A player that is naturally gifted and that makes elite Futbol look easy. That's the Goat 🐐

Messi es el mejor jugador del mundo, Ronaldo no existe !!!.

Messi goat

This GOAT thing ended up being worse than the Console wars between PS and Xbox, my god.