Who is Censored More? Liberals vs Conservatives | Middle Ground

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  • @ada2354
    @ada23543 жыл бұрын

    i would love to see a middle ground episode that is “leftists vs. liberals” because so many people don’t understand the difference between them

  • @CP-ir3ft

    @CP-ir3ft

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes please!

  • @aus-li

    @aus-li

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a liberal myself, what does “leftism” even mean? From my interpretation, it’s pretty much a more “extreme” notion of “liberalism” (far more progressive), but with mixed ideals.

  • @katarina9064

    @katarina9064

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whats the difference if u dont mind me asking?

  • @CP-ir3ft

    @CP-ir3ft

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aus-li leftist is a word to describe anti-capitalists/socialists (anarchists, libertarian socialists, marxist-leninists etc.). liberals are capitalists.

  • @aus-li

    @aus-li

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CP-ir3ft But I’m a “liberal” who supports socialism, capitalism, communism (not Marx’s definition), some aspects of anarchism and libertarianism.

  • @itsnatemate7697
    @itsnatemate76973 жыл бұрын

    People also really need to know the difference between liberal and leftist...cause those aren’t the same things...🤦🏽

  • @christianlopez7131

    @christianlopez7131

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think we group them together because they most liberals are leftist

  • @itsnatemate7697

    @itsnatemate7697

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@christianlopez7131 Bruh. No. There’s a difference.

  • @GregorPQ

    @GregorPQ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Today the Republicans are liberal, the Democrats are leftists.

  • @avinfrench6003

    @avinfrench6003

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@christianlopez7131 I think most leftists dislike liberals cause they're too centerist

  • @yarielvargas7011

    @yarielvargas7011

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GregorPQ democrats arent leftists, girl what? 🤚😭

  • @bootybutt9080
    @bootybutt90803 жыл бұрын

    The fact that nobody is screaming is honestly so refreshing

  • @willia3r

    @willia3r

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that’s nice, but what’s gonna come of it? Nothing.

  • @BitterJoyXx

    @BitterJoyXx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willia3r Their discussions were made into a video for people to educate themselves on what their side and the other side feels and thinks truely instead of steryotypes and assumptions. This is basically an education video teaching that people have different opinions and could help someone pick a side they identify with more. If they aren't screaming at each other and are actually RESPECTFUL, then you can understand the video better, you can focus and even empathise better with the other side.

  • @willia3r

    @willia3r

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BitterJoyXx in other words a whole bunch of nothing. Both sides are corrupt anyways.

  • @giddymadman2687

    @giddymadman2687

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willia3r Watch yourself edgelord. Your acting like anything is pure. There is no perfect perspective.

  • @willia3r

    @willia3r

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@giddymadman2687 I don’t expect perfection, but at the same time why feed into a rigged conversation?

  • @peterkerr2627
    @peterkerr26273 жыл бұрын

    The problem that I'm seeing in this conversation that was later addressed is that people get SO combative about their political stances. It becomes EVERYTHING that they care about and speak on and they end up becoming a walking political billboard instead of a human being. When somebody says something you don't agree on you don't take it out on them personally and get combative. You don't attack their values or what they believe in, everyone can understand that when it gets personal the listening stops. I really appreciated the open communication and the agreement from both sides but we have to understand that everyone comes from different backgrounds and has witnessed life differently than us. No need to get offended if somebody doesn't feel the same. More than anything as well THIS is an example of the censorship the conservatives and liberals were talking about. When you voice something that matters to you and are IMMEDIATELY shut down and told you're wrong and the name calling starts. Then those platforms label you as a problem account and remove you since all the negative comments of those on the other side. THAT is the biggest censorship we have right now, is the overall bullying mentality from entire groups where the MOB comes after you if you don't agree.

  • @Parzival_V
    @Parzival_V3 жыл бұрын

    This is the result when you put people who really want a conversation instead of a fight that doesn’t benefit anyone

  • @annonymous6827

    @annonymous6827

    3 жыл бұрын

    Idk Lawrence came out blasting

  • @annonymous6827

    @annonymous6827

    3 жыл бұрын

    +Colossal Dragon Well that's just ur opinion, not a fact.

  • @izzysavage4634

    @izzysavage4634

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@annonymous6827 what you said is also an opinion

  • @rogerquintanilla863

    @rogerquintanilla863

    3 жыл бұрын

    KZread apparently does not like facts.

  • @SkyraXD

    @SkyraXD

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@annonymous6827 56 likes to 2Likes bro....

  • @jackbarbey
    @jackbarbey3 жыл бұрын

    Only one thing in this irked me: Did we not all learn the difference between a fact and an opinion in 3rd grade? You can't just assert any random thing as a fact and then say it's "your truth."

  • @djfrashatch

    @djfrashatch

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel exactly the same

  • @Lynn-iw2ds

    @Lynn-iw2ds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ikr, i have no respect for them just because they were "peaceful and calm" in this debate doesn't mean anything, that should be common sense. Beyond them being kind, they ignore literally every good point the liberals gave and still ran with their made up version of reality

  • @Etomia

    @Etomia

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree, everyone should be able to say "in my opinion..." About anything, but once someone says "this is the truth", that's completely different.

  • @pinata111colada

    @pinata111colada

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Etomia although i agree, you also need to realise that ppl assert their opinions as truth all the time eg. when we make policies towards, let's say, climate change, ppls opinions on how to manage that are required to make the policies. This is why we shouldn't just say that all opinions are valid and fine... because some are just not based on fact and can be incredibly harmful eg. anti-vaxxers.

  • @AnthonyAllenJr

    @AnthonyAllenJr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed 👍

  • @michaelaf6580
    @michaelaf65802 жыл бұрын

    We NEED more media literacy. That would help with online misinformation

  • @bb3ll07

    @bb3ll07

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!! I tend to see people express their feelings instead of stating facts

  • @MayBlake_Channel

    @MayBlake_Channel

    9 ай бұрын

    What do you mean by "media literacy"?

  • @conservativeriot5939

    @conservativeriot5939

    9 ай бұрын

    We need more people to realize they're being manipulated by the media.

  • @rowl3t968

    @rowl3t968

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MayBlake_Channel finding fact from emotion, letting views be shared respectfully and conveying ideas in a non agressive way

  • @MayBlake_Channel

    @MayBlake_Channel

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rowl3t968 Thank you

  • @BoostGlitch357
    @BoostGlitch3572 жыл бұрын

    I'm on team "Stop playing the victim and admit that both sides are censored"

  • @kainuipenaloza9395

    @kainuipenaloza9395

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but the question is who is censored more. Conservatives win every time.

  • @fr1910

    @fr1910

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kainuipenaloza9395 conservatives wanna be oppressed sooo bad

  • @moshpitmi

    @moshpitmi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kainuipenaloza9395 rightfully so, they are spreading hate and misinformation...

  • @alinstlawrence3458

    @alinstlawrence3458

    Жыл бұрын

    Be on a team is a victim stuff

  • @agrendel9475

    @agrendel9475

    Жыл бұрын

    @@moshpitmi Nothing rightful about censoring

  • @kathleenreilly828
    @kathleenreilly8283 жыл бұрын

    Who else HATES it when people say “THEIR truth”, “MY truth”, “HIS/HER truth”, etc. instead of saying “their SIDE OF THE STORY” because one’s interpretation of a given situation is not necessarily “THE truth” at all

  • @sistagaia

    @sistagaia

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yesss!

  • @MusiColeMF

    @MusiColeMF

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can’t stand it at all. It’s absolutely ridiculous

  • @nitea.7877

    @nitea.7877

    3 жыл бұрын

    Feel u homie

  • @klauserji

    @klauserji

    3 жыл бұрын

    In a way.. that's what actually what's happening on reality.. not all people got the same access to same information; which is important to some idea..

  • @general330

    @general330

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was told once, that "Perspective is truth". Meaning, two people could see the same event, and come away with completely different explanations of what happened. Its only when we gain knowledge, that our perception changes. So until that knowledge is gained, it is absolutely "my truth".

  • @nothingnew8770
    @nothingnew87703 жыл бұрын

    The level of civility in this conversation, even though they were all passionate about their beliefs, was admirable. Society should strive for THIS not a cesspool of Twitter debates.

  • @redrobby9939

    @redrobby9939

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s because they are talking face to face. I find people have an easier time to bounce off the walls when they’re typing their minds out in their dark rooms in the middle of the night. That, and I’m sure jubilee probably asked them to keep it at least somewhat civil.

  • @jamesmoriarty3877

    @jamesmoriarty3877

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funny how people are beginning to see that conservatives are more reasonable when *allowed* to speak. Maybe if "fact"-checkers, "community guidelines" strikes, and cancel culture didn't exist, people would realize that we'd be a lot more personable. We don't like the endless arguments anymore than you do. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion, not just woke celebrities and their hive mind of followers. Thanks to the censorship that leftists will no doubt deny exists, I don't see notifications from replies, so we'll see if I happen across this again.

  • @akarshshekhar5233

    @akarshshekhar5233

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nobody speaks in real life in the manner that they speak on Twitter. If they did, a lot of people will get smacked in the face. Twitter language is free of consequences. And people take advantage of that.

  • @michelleheegaard

    @michelleheegaard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was literally going to write a comment on this 😂 it's amazing how they all really try to keep the conversation civil despite having different opinions. They all showed such a good example of how it IS possible to talk about different political opinions without the conversation turning sour.

  • @TheFanaticFein

    @TheFanaticFein

    3 жыл бұрын

    My theory is that it was more civil because they weren't trying to convince the other to share beliefs. Imo, I don't think it's just human interaction or realizing that "we're all part of the same race - the human race." Usually leftist are viewed as aggressive and pushy, while the right are viewed as stubborn and set in their ways. When you go into a conversation with the simple goal of just hearing the other side, and accepting that the other individual won't change no matter how much evidence you provide, it can produce this civility. I absolutely agree that it was admirable. I'd say even beautiful.

  • @justindickinson4269
    @justindickinson42693 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see Ben Shapiro and the young turks as well as crowder all in the same room. Y’all should make it happen

  • @shortstuff780

    @shortstuff780

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes and no. Issue is there bad blood w Tyt and Crowder (crowders a moron). Let's have Kyle and Kystal Ball debate Crowder and Ben. That would be an fun match up plus I think Ben will cry, which would be funny to watch

  • @poundface1597

    @poundface1597

    3 жыл бұрын

    They need to have a boxing match lemme not lie

  • @braces11111

    @braces11111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jubilee likes to bring on centrists to debate in this series. Crowder is too far right but it is concerning that they are trying to ban crowder now.

  • @map2001luvskitties

    @map2001luvskitties

    3 жыл бұрын

    please no

  • @map2001luvskitties

    @map2001luvskitties

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@braces11111 is it concerning tho 💀 his sense of humor is literally minstrel shows

  • @ZionBarnette1
    @ZionBarnette13 жыл бұрын

    “Even if it’s a lie it’s your truth” bruh what? 😂

  • @themoonreadmydiary
    @themoonreadmydiary3 жыл бұрын

    I thought this was gonna be really messy but they were actually listening to each other wow

  • @zoenicholson1776

    @zoenicholson1776

    3 жыл бұрын

    No they weren't listening to each other they were hearing each other, which is completely different. No one walked away from that conversation with a true understanding of the other side

  • @TransparencyandMerit

    @TransparencyandMerit

    3 жыл бұрын

    When does that ever happen ? Are not people stuck in their beliefs it is very hard to see the world from a different perspective

  • @NastyNas1608

    @NastyNas1608

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tyler B #2 the removal of a parasitic non-sentient cellular life form is not infanticide.

  • @yolo-vl4wz

    @yolo-vl4wz

    3 жыл бұрын

    right I'm so proud

  • @yolo-vl4wz

    @yolo-vl4wz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tyler B #2 mass what? 😭🙏

  • @noahkane2408
    @noahkane24083 жыл бұрын

    You guys should do minority conservatives vs white liberals

  • @kuggacouragegx6093

    @kuggacouragegx6093

    3 жыл бұрын

    The white liberals wont listen and just try to shame and tell the minority what to do

  • @abbygriffin9105

    @abbygriffin9105

    2 жыл бұрын

    For real.

  • @aaronrodgers5852

    @aaronrodgers5852

    2 жыл бұрын

    White Liberal: “You need my protection whether you like it or not and I will tell the whole world what you are thinking and exactly how you are thinking it so that they are able to hear your voice as a “minority”. I will commit myself to socially attain justice for you.😀” Me: Bruh, you’re scaring me.

  • @ilikepancakes2368

    @ilikepancakes2368

    2 жыл бұрын

    Minority conservatives is an oxymoron.

  • @abbygriffin9105

    @abbygriffin9105

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ilikepancakes2368 Not really.

  • @cheyennereardon9736
    @cheyennereardon97362 жыл бұрын

    “On liberty” by John Stuart Mill should be a required reading for every high school. Especially if it’s read with “the social contract” by Rousseau as well, they both show what we think we have versus what we actually have

  • @delphine5260
    @delphine52602 жыл бұрын

    I love that they're so respectful and civil in this conversation, it's refreshing to hear a civil conversation where they're willing to hear each other's ideas

  • @YoungRell
    @YoungRell3 жыл бұрын

    This is literally what America needs. People with opposite beliefs that can sit and have a rational conversation without arguing/name-calling, etc. I'd love to see more of this tbh.

  • @alainad6364

    @alainad6364

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should check out more of the videos on this channel--they're all geared at having those difficult conversations in a civilized manner :)

  • @GarnetsWeb

    @GarnetsWeb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alainad6364 Not all of them are civilized, but I agree with the rest 😂

  • @cmillertime7477

    @cmillertime7477

    3 жыл бұрын

    We elected trump. Most people in this country are not like this.

  • @buttertoast1146

    @buttertoast1146

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed this was really good

  • @trialone5691

    @trialone5691

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yet twitter, amazon, and disney don't let this happen

  • @RainzUp
    @RainzUp3 жыл бұрын

    This is about the only time I’ve ever seen liberals and conservatives having proper and respectful discourse. It was actually quite refreshing to watch.

  • @Charlii931603

    @Charlii931603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Literally watch a college video from 1960 or an interview. This isn’t new

  • @RainzUp

    @RainzUp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Charlii931603 I am a part of a younger generation so yeah, I haven’t seen “a college video” from 1960 or remember seeing any interviews relating to a debate between democratic and conservative viewpoints from that time period. If you are willing to be specific on what videos I should watch, go right ahead and state them. Both parties have changed significantly over time and while I hate the idea of relativism, so has their moral stances. This has caused many violent clashes between them seen all across the media platforms and if violence isn’t a factor, disrespectful behavior often is.

  • @Charlii931603

    @Charlii931603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RainzUp yeah I'm 28. I'm pretty sure we're not that far apart in age. You're on KZread and those videos do exist on KZread. You made a statement about seeing this for the first time. Granted that's speak to your exposure which is not your fault at all. This act isn't uncommon. Which goes to show you how we as a people don't pay enough attention to history or politics. I'll find a link of a conversation I had seen around that time with conservatives debating a Democrat or liberal.

  • @RainzUp

    @RainzUp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Charlii931603 thank you brother. I will definitely take a look and thank you for giving me the opportunity to expand my knowledge surrounding this topic of debate between both parties 🙌🏼.

  • @maximusrl2095

    @maximusrl2095

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish my ex friends were more like these people :(

  • @wb2435
    @wb24353 жыл бұрын

    "people my age get their news exclusively from social media".. and there's the problem.

  • @nhlsens3880
    @nhlsens38809 ай бұрын

    Leah gives off the vibe that she thinks she is smarter than everybody else

  • @eliseed8276

    @eliseed8276

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah? The only woman? Huh.

  • @nhlsens3880

    @nhlsens3880

    Ай бұрын

    @@eliseed8276 what?

  • @sophiagunner4984
    @sophiagunner49843 жыл бұрын

    Please do a middle ground between americans and english people. I think it would be super interesting because we are supposed "sister" countries but we are actually very different. For example guns, healthcare, laws, views on government etc

  • @beansontoast1759

    @beansontoast1759

    3 жыл бұрын

    as an english person that would be so jokes i wanna see that😭

  • @kay-wj3jx

    @kay-wj3jx

    3 жыл бұрын

    i wanna see this. i don’t even live in america or europe. i’m a canadian lol

  • @imlikett5293

    @imlikett5293

    3 жыл бұрын

    YUHHHHHHHH

  • @beansontoast1759

    @beansontoast1759

    3 жыл бұрын

    @C D yes us northerners need representation😔

  • @scadwea9109

    @scadwea9109

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@beansontoast1759 imagine some lass from leeds shows up and people don't understand her accent

  • @larrythesociologist
    @larrythesociologist3 жыл бұрын

    Y’all stop making fun of my “Ben Shapiro” pronunciation 😂

  • @sorandomandquirky9425

    @sorandomandquirky9425

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol, I thought I was the one who was mispronouncing his name for a second

  • @gettriggered_ian3269

    @gettriggered_ian3269

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg it's actually you lmao.

  • @Ray-dx2pf

    @Ray-dx2pf

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its to good though

  • @franktranks9445

    @franktranks9445

    3 жыл бұрын

    I though you were joking till I went on ur channel lol

  • @yuritardid7761

    @yuritardid7761

    3 жыл бұрын

    You made some great points my man

  • @lillyannavillarreal
    @lillyannavillarreal2 жыл бұрын

    That girl is so wise!! And holding it down for the ladies. I love the way she talks

  • @Ulsaf

    @Ulsaf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Big yikes, I wouldn’t look up to someone like her if I were you.

  • @shinjayzilla8553

    @shinjayzilla8553

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ulsaf As soon as Brown was brought up she said "we dont need to talk about that"

  • @akhost3929

    @akhost3929

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think so

  • @Dino2GunZ

    @Dino2GunZ

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@shinjayzilla8553 she said that after somebody challenged her narrative with the facts

  • @moshpitmi

    @moshpitmi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shinjayzilla8553 it's because of who she was talking to, it'd be hopeless lol

  • @TzaddikMedia
    @TzaddikMedia2 жыл бұрын

    This was very civil and amicable. Thanks for another great episode!

  • @anniem251
    @anniem2513 жыл бұрын

    As a non- American person who is nether a Liberal Democrat nor a republican, I found this conversation surprisingly civil and agreeable- much eloquence and understanding from either side!

  • @OneRandomVictory

    @OneRandomVictory

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what we need more of.

  • @kallenmurphy

    @kallenmurphy

    3 жыл бұрын

    This logic of Middle Ground needs to implemented in like schools and communities, we need to stop demonizing the other side

  • @jasondmello428

    @jasondmello428

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kallenmurphy facts

  • @phanatic215

    @phanatic215

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kallenmurphy that speaks to what Joseph said. People are in these echo chambers and receive no push back, so they dive deeper and deeper into rhetoric.

  • @chasingstars5614

    @chasingstars5614

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not american but I am leftist and I could agree with both sides sometimes, the conversation was pretty civil

  • @raynefelix2775
    @raynefelix27753 жыл бұрын

    Oop this is gonna get heated edit: that was actually pretty mild and civilized

  • @sam-ls7cp

    @sam-ls7cp

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah. i enjoyed this conversation a lot

  • @RiFit

    @RiFit

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was scaredddd lool but it was pretty decent.

  • @thebrinksf69

    @thebrinksf69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everything heated happens in the comments

  • @feorgenotgloyd7624

    @feorgenotgloyd7624

    3 жыл бұрын

    Da

  • @spencerjonesvo3973

    @spencerjonesvo3973

    3 жыл бұрын

    right? I was shocked.

  • @6thgraderfriends
    @6thgraderfriends Жыл бұрын

    This is fun to watch after learning what twitter has been doing for years.

  • @aemezu
    @aemezu2 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this. They all had something to bring to the conversation and contributed to the dialog. Solid conversation.

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    they were all liberal. none of them were conservative and none of them were leftist.

  • @ImLehwz
    @ImLehwz3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this conversation got progressively more harmonious when both sides started to validate each other.

  • @defaultlogos2976

    @defaultlogos2976

    3 жыл бұрын

    Politics at its finest

  • @veddiinspires

    @veddiinspires

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. We need more togetherness.

  • @ImLehwz

    @ImLehwz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@veddiinspires agreed!

  • @TheDiscusserOriginal

    @TheDiscusserOriginal

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's because if we sit down and have a discussion without others (or even ourselves) attempting to divide us, we'd come to a middle ground. There's too much liberal this and conservative that, which leads to people thinking that if they're under X party or X wing that their inherently bad and not worth talking to. It's why I've tried to be a centrist and be open to a discussion for any topic.

  • @defaultlogos2976

    @defaultlogos2976

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheDiscusserOriginal Hello my centrist brethren

  • @aram-the-slug
    @aram-the-slug3 жыл бұрын

    Can we please get more comfortable seats for the guests siting on a stool is like the worst form of seat

  • @CreepyXD12

    @CreepyXD12

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the still forces them to engage and stay up vs a chair or a couch for comfort lol

  • @socksmccox1025

    @socksmccox1025

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CreepyXD12 good point. they would just sit there and do nothing if they were more comfortable

  • @lonewolf95-__-

    @lonewolf95-__-

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CreepyXD12 changed my opinion

  • @Omnimon101

    @Omnimon101

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it might be for video astetics. like chairs have arms and backs and it might block the view of the peopel

  • @Lgo559

    @Lgo559

    3 жыл бұрын

    like badass officve chairs at a meeting table setting. for the aesthetic

  • @goodwork887
    @goodwork887 Жыл бұрын

    This was the smartest group of people I've ever seen on this channel, including among more recent videos from the past year since this one came out. I'd listen to these people discuss any topic.

  • @jp99301
    @jp993013 жыл бұрын

    I really wish they would actually fact check the participants in these. There are many times when they'll say something that's just objectively false, it sucks that it gets to stand most of the time when it's clearly a big part of the basis of their ideology.

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree. both sides said completely false statements. This is also extremely one sided. It is just somewhat moderate liberals vs. regular liberals.

  • @aitothechamp7263

    @aitothechamp7263

    2 жыл бұрын

    Alright, let it be conservative fact checkers tho ;)

  • @FirstLast-gk6lg

    @FirstLast-gk6lg

    2 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree

  • @FirstLast-gk6lg

    @FirstLast-gk6lg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jmailmonopolis6296 100%

  • @niksalah3625

    @niksalah3625

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aitothechamp7263 you mean someone who will let conservatives getting away with telling lies because that’s the only basis their arguments have? You’re seriously pathetic dude

  • @maddyroybal7656
    @maddyroybal76563 жыл бұрын

    I identify as conservative however I couldn’t agree more with what the liberal man said about social media networks dividing us through conflict. Great video. Much appreciated

  • @pascho1057

    @pascho1057

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are probably libertarian

  • @maddyroybal7656

    @maddyroybal7656

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pascho1057 I’m a conservative leaning libertarian. But what makes you say that?

  • @pascho1057

    @pascho1057

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing I am right it reminds me of the meme where the don’t tread on me snake is being stepped on by big tech

  • @maddyroybal7656

    @maddyroybal7656

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pascho1057 I’m not sure what you mean but okay, have a nice day

  • @whatsgood6440

    @whatsgood6440

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ewww a dirty conservative

  • @Official_Dave
    @Official_Dave3 жыл бұрын

    the ppl in this video handled this so well and had an actual intellectual debate. props to everyone who was involved in the video

  • @olistan1918

    @olistan1918

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tyler B #2 relax tyler

  • @nija387

    @nija387

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@olistan1918 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @randomplaceinruralamerica9618

    @randomplaceinruralamerica9618

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tyler B #2 You do you Tyler Keep using fActs aND loGIC to own the libs

  • @Lebronwski

    @Lebronwski

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@olistan1918 good argument.

  • @Lebronwski

    @Lebronwski

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@randomplaceinruralamerica9618 facts and logic always destroy leftists

  • @val3454
    @val34549 ай бұрын

    Never seen such a civil and empathetic discussion on Middle Ground before. The amicability in this room was smothering, heavy political thematics considered. I love how understanding each political side looked at the other one, I've never felt like two totally opposing views actually tried to understand each other to this degree before on this series.

  • @AdoptionLawSourceTrinity
    @AdoptionLawSourceTrinity2 жыл бұрын

    This is one of my favorite channels. We need forums like this to hear both sides on issues, but in an open, civilized manner.

  • @cameerkat
    @cameerkat3 жыл бұрын

    i like how their main goals weren’t to change the other sides’ ideas, it was just to find *middle ground*

  • @peeps0i

    @peeps0i

    3 жыл бұрын

    BA DUM TSSSS :D

  • @tommatt2901

    @tommatt2901

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peeps0i lol nice

  • @gamequeen641

    @gamequeen641

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @jonathanademi2439

    @jonathanademi2439

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cuz they ain’t white liberals in there

  • @naomiisdark

    @naomiisdark

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peeps0i my first though

  • @jaleihajoseph2505
    @jaleihajoseph25053 жыл бұрын

    I am a black American from Cali and identify as independent when it comes to politics. I don’t believe in censorship because I would rather know that someone is a racist/homophobic/bigot etc than pretend to be friends. I feel safer knowing their true intentions and then deciding if that’s someone I want to be around or associate with. I believe Censorship hurts people in the long run.

  • @bablumalla5190

    @bablumalla5190

    3 жыл бұрын

    👍 agree

  • @brandipityha9457

    @brandipityha9457

    3 жыл бұрын

    This reminded me of a video i saw where someone said they have a black square profile picture to show they arent racist and support black people. The funny part is, to me anyways, is if you werent racist to begin with wouldnt your friends and other black people you know know you arent racist by your actions?

  • @camgotvaslee16

    @camgotvaslee16

    3 жыл бұрын

    its only when it puts others safety and wellbeing at risk when i think banning/censoring is necessary

  • @jaleihajoseph2505

    @jaleihajoseph2505

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@camgotvaslee16 I agree with that. When it leads to physical harm to others, that is no longer free speech, that is hate speech. I definitely do not support that and I don’t want to pretend that hateful rhetoric and racist speech don’t harm people, however I just see no point censoring people views. I don’t like that Democrats and Republicans will both try to censor what each others parties believe in/value based on what offends them. Nothing was ever solved in history by being offended and ignoring/avoiding topics that make you uncomfortable like abortion, free speech, legalizing marijuana etc. it’s feels like when either party doesn’t agree with something they want to censor it from media and schools but I don’t think that does anything to solve the issue.

  • @jaleihajoseph2505

    @jaleihajoseph2505

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandipityha9457 that’s very true sometimes. Unfortunately some people will engage in performative activism and go out of their way to make it look like they are not racist which in turn makes them look a lot more racist than someone who just tries not be prejudiced and racist in their daily life. The only thing that solves racism is how you treat other people. At the end of the day a black square doesn’t do much.

  • @KK_CityGirl
    @KK_CityGirl Жыл бұрын

    Excellent conversation! Love how everyone listened and engaged without hurling insults...

  • @chantelcaprice4119
    @chantelcaprice41192 жыл бұрын

    Censoring what people say and altering the first amendment is a very slippery slope. Where do you draw the line?

  • @kenaanderson7512
    @kenaanderson75123 жыл бұрын

    Truest comment that needs to be talked about more: "you don't realize how many people of my generation get all their news from social media."

  • @Thesdr666

    @Thesdr666

    3 жыл бұрын

    That actually holds true for a notable percentage of all living generations. For instance, I get the vast majority of my news online- I don't even Have a TV- and I'm a baby boomer.

  • @illegitimateotaku794

    @illegitimateotaku794

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Thesdr666 Agreed. I'm pretty sure this applies to all generations. I don't even think it's necessarily a bad thing to get all of your news online, so long as it comes from credible sources. You don't *have* to get your news from a pundit on cable news for you to be well-informed, so it's kind of annoying when people say that to bash young people.

  • @katherineanderson3694

    @katherineanderson3694

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Thesdr666 there’s a difference between social media and online, most people get news online but if your getting on social media you have algorithms at play

  • @badacc

    @badacc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@katherineanderson3694 Algorithms engineered to show you what you want and keep clicking in order to generate user attention. Often times resulting in a giant echo chamber for yourself.

  • @Thesdr666

    @Thesdr666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@katherineanderson3694 I use social media for Some of my news, but I have a news feed that draws on news sources from pretty much everywhere- except that, after finding little to no factual news on them, most of the extreme right websites. I like my news to be factual, not propaganda.

  • @violinlover200
    @violinlover2003 жыл бұрын

    This conversation was a breath of fresh air. Educated people with different opinions having a discussion without attacking each other's throats.

  • @StardustSpiritDragon

    @StardustSpiritDragon

    3 жыл бұрын

    I swear I did the same thing with my female accquaintence and it was S T I M U L AT I N G.

  • @endsdio4834

    @endsdio4834

    3 жыл бұрын

    This convo didn’t go anywhere. It was calm...more hearing than listening.

  • @udhav423

    @udhav423

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StardustSpiritDragon seek help

  • @grootygroot6351
    @grootygroot63512 жыл бұрын

    Glad there was a space for them to talk and have an actual conversation. I feel like that went well. We need more of this.

  • @cortalina8617
    @cortalina86172 жыл бұрын

    I think people should be allowed to say what they want online because if they're assholes I'd rather know about it. Then they can face the consequences for that.

  • @marleewells6
    @marleewells63 жыл бұрын

    I really wanted to hear more from Bennet, I think he was drowned out a little by everyone else

  • @bennetkelley

    @bennetkelley

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's more that was edited. Thanks.

  • @iss9958

    @iss9958

    3 жыл бұрын

    holy smokes the real dude replied

  • @micahkiyimba634

    @micahkiyimba634

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bennetkelley HAHA why is this so funny

  • @meirchaimo6960

    @meirchaimo6960

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bennetkelley You were great!

  • @jennyinouterspace

    @jennyinouterspace

    3 жыл бұрын

    TOTALLY AGREE! As an older gentlemen identifying as “liberal” I’m sure his perspective is quite unique and I would have loved to hear more!

  • @spxdel8520
    @spxdel85203 жыл бұрын

    That guy had a fair point when he said you’d be surprised the amount of our generation that gets their news solely from social media but the thing is that all mainstream media outlets have an incredibly prevalent bias and there’s really not many places that we can get an opinion off that feel objective and free of bias and that’s the problem with it

  • @TheLizardofOzzz

    @TheLizardofOzzz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what those “ideas” where that he wanted people to hear him out with

  • @badacc

    @badacc

    3 жыл бұрын

    The problem is any source, including social media has bias. Social media is literally engineered to give you content you want to see! It's one massive self confirmation bias regardless of what side of the political spectrum you are in. The reason we all fucked is cause its so hard to know what is and isn't true on the internet but there's no real way of seeing that.

  • @spxdel8520

    @spxdel8520

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@badacc absolutely I’d definitely say that social media normally has more bias and less educated opinions aswell for the most part

  • @Maperator

    @Maperator

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only real solution is to listen to both sides of the spectrum and decide for yourself but never forget that youre only human and so might be wrong. In other words, be willing to change, as you can never really know anything for certain

  • @badacc

    @badacc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Maperator Exactly most people cannot understand the concept that they themselves have their own biases and they are more likely to ignore stuff that disagrees with them. Its really hard to get around that. Idk if I can do it successfully. Its a lot easier said then done.

  • @shawnkurtz4424
    @shawnkurtz44242 жыл бұрын

    This was probably one of the better conversations they've had. Thoughtful and insightful from both parties involved.

  • @gabrieltanguay9695

    @gabrieltanguay9695

    4 ай бұрын

    This one and the vegan vs hunters one

  • @johntrauscht3122
    @johntrauscht31223 жыл бұрын

    This was really refreshing to see… People with different points of view having a sensible conversation. We need more of this. A lot more. Well done, Jubilee.

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think they had more the same point of view rather than different. I wouldn't say anyone here was conservative it was just varying levels of liberal. no heavy leftists and no conservatives its just liberals of varying degrees.

  • @belowaverageluke1369
    @belowaverageluke13693 жыл бұрын

    I think that this video turned out better than I'd hoped.

  • @rorymarcel228

    @rorymarcel228

    3 жыл бұрын

    same I thought they would be yelling and screaming

  • @chillmemes5865

    @chillmemes5865

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would have just been telling them facts

  • @ncrveteranranger2368

    @ncrveteranranger2368

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chillmemes5865 to who?

  • @ziiiiiiii754

    @ziiiiiiii754

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chillmemes5865 ok “chill memes”

  • @ziiiiiiii754

    @ziiiiiiii754

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@deetz23 ok “danamon”?

  • @H0lyMoley
    @H0lyMoley3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I'm shocked at how much I agreed with both sides. Especially with the point regarding social media companies having an incentive to profit from "drama" that divides people, not brings them together.

  • @lolarose8973

    @lolarose8973

    3 жыл бұрын

    except the fact that michael usually doesnt get his facts right lol

  • @apsinthos5439

    @apsinthos5439

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, sob stories of oppression are their favorite even though they are only the small fraction of social issues

  • @jellynellye

    @jellynellye

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tyler B #2 A clump of cells is not alive.

  • @nickd2296

    @nickd2296

    3 жыл бұрын

    Liberals and Conservatives have a lot in common. Woke people and white supremacists also have a lot in common. Politics is a circle people. Not the square that you normally see.

  • @alansands256

    @alansands256

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jellynellye people like you used to say a clump of cells is not HUMAN. Now you've actually convinced yourself that its NOT ALIVE?

  • @buckysgirl4945
    @buckysgirl49452 жыл бұрын

    One thing that was not addressed in the first statement was the fact that Conservatives were told to get their own platform if they feel censored, so Parlor was created, and you can't download it. They basically said make your own platform that no one can access.

  • @torymason5143

    @torymason5143

    Жыл бұрын

    But apple is a private company

  • @DayumQuitPlayin

    @DayumQuitPlayin

    6 ай бұрын

    @@torymason5143- Apple was pressured by the same people who told them to make their own platform.

  • @violetnadine9091
    @violetnadine90912 жыл бұрын

    this is one of the best most productive discussions I’ve seen on this channel, in depth and well thought out points from everyone

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think because they are about the same and they don't have any actual conservatives.

  • @miadiaz9043
    @miadiaz90433 жыл бұрын

    The moment Leah brought up “to stop deflecting, what do you think should be done,” i knew she would be wonderful in steering the conversation in this video. *chefs kiss*

  • @LuffyDshanks

    @LuffyDshanks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea it's straight up just like Bill Burr explained. When women are arguing and they're right, they argue the point, they stay on point, and they make you stay on point. She was like, " Shuttin that down now. Like NOW now."

  • @lorikaisirfogle2903

    @lorikaisirfogle2903

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely a chefs kiss 🤌🏾

  • @theannouncer3423

    @theannouncer3423

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LuffyDshanks Typically the opposite

  • @snowgrass210
    @snowgrass2103 жыл бұрын

    Everyone in the comments: tHiS VIdEo iS GonNA bE a mESs The video: 6 people having a civil conversation with little to no shouting, insults or personal attacks.

  • @bishbosh4815

    @bishbosh4815

    3 жыл бұрын

    *impossible gif*

  • @gwennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    @gwennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    3 жыл бұрын

    💀

  • @scarletwarlock3261

    @scarletwarlock3261

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am honestly surprised and proud. They all acted like civil adults who were able to express differences and opposing opinions in a respectful constructive manner

  • @jwrs6292

    @jwrs6292

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought that until someone said Alex Jones was right about the frogs.

  • @bishbosh4815

    @bishbosh4815

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jwrs6292 frogs?

  • @VictoriasUniverse
    @VictoriasUniverse3 жыл бұрын

    This was a a amazing group! Usually throughout these videos I get annoyed cause one side tries to over speak the other or slander the other. I feel there was great communication and that each side actually took in what the other said

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    They were on the same side. They had the same opinions.

  • @gabrielgutierrez889
    @gabrielgutierrez8892 жыл бұрын

    Now this is what being a Liberal and Conservative should look like ❤️ I came across this page yesterday and I LOVE IT!!!

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    none of them were conservatives and none of them were leftists. It was only liberals with slight differences in viewpoints.

  • @Lee-qu4ce
    @Lee-qu4ce3 жыл бұрын

    I hate this notion of people having thier "truth". Well, a truth is based in fact and reality. Don't get opinion and truth mixed up. It's one of my pet peeves. 😆

  • @dimitrifranck

    @dimitrifranck

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why do you assume that all facts are universal ? If I am not married, it’s a fact. If you are, that’s a fact too. Both are facts and both are true but they are different from each other.

  • @amitav5908

    @amitav5908

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dimitrifranck science

  • @janemeyers3799

    @janemeyers3799

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@dimitrifranck Sweetheart. No. There is objective fact and there is fiction. Truth and lies. Not everything is subjective. WHEN did this become so confusing to folks. It's almost as if half of this country has been utterly brain fucked by the Murdoch propaganda machine.

  • @dimitrifranck

    @dimitrifranck

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@janemeyers3799 you completely missed what I meant. Not ALL facts or truth are objective. There even are different categories of facts. Just because you and I do not share the same realities doesn’t mean that on of us is living the truth and the other one is living fiction. You should drop that self righteous attitude. I never said that everything is subjective or that everything is a matter of point of view. I just said that not everything factual is shared by everybody because of multiple factors. If you spin on yourself at a high speed and you stop, you’ll have the impression that everything is spinning around you. You can even fall if you don’t have anything to hold on. The dizziness that you feel is real. But is it true that everything is spinning around you? No. So yes, there are plenty of objective truth but there are areas of life when it’s not that black and white.

  • @vp9549

    @vp9549

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dimitrifranck Give _one_ example of a non-objective fact. If someone’s “reality” isn’t the same as *the* reality, that’s called delusion.

  • @kiaraetsuko3523
    @kiaraetsuko35233 жыл бұрын

    "If you cause lasting damage then you need lasting consequences" YES YES YES

  • @TransparencyandMerit

    @TransparencyandMerit

    3 жыл бұрын

    Does that not cut both ways ?

  • @Callisto_52Hz

    @Callisto_52Hz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TransparencyandMerit who said it doesn't

  • @TransparencyandMerit

    @TransparencyandMerit

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Callisto_52Hz Nobody but if you look at social media punishment and cancel culture punishment seems to flow primarily in one direction if one examines the facts the left gets away with things the right could never get away with

  • @feimai-angelos3250

    @feimai-angelos3250

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Free Speech Bot when has* that *ever* happened

  • @wdwgirl9206

    @wdwgirl9206

    3 жыл бұрын

    What exactly constitutes “lasting damage”? Directly ordering the murder of someone is of course. Saying something on Twitter that someone doesn’t like isn’t lasting damage.

  • @immortanrex5325
    @immortanrex53252 жыл бұрын

    I used to be a mod on a discord server that is for different political stances. All it really did was make all parties hate one another even more and turn one another into even more of a caricature of their beliefs. If the users were seated with one another like this however, it would be much more simple to find a common ground.

  • @margauxmarzuoli3304
    @margauxmarzuoli33042 жыл бұрын

    this is the best middle ground ever!! educated people actually listening to each other and being constructive!!!!

  • @purpledragonfly8608
    @purpledragonfly86083 жыл бұрын

    This was super respectful + everyone seemed willing to listen to and understand the other side. 10/10

  • @stop9273

    @stop9273

    3 жыл бұрын

    @semi thats a good thing no?

  • @killjeffrey

    @killjeffrey

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. It was pretty good. You can definitely have normal conversations about politics.

  • @jerryxdaave

    @jerryxdaave

    3 жыл бұрын

    being respectful/speaking in a calm tone isn’t a marker of a good conversation. i hope we let go of this idea

  • @stop9273

    @stop9273

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jerryxdaave no but it is the base of a good productive conversation

  • @purpledragonfly8608

    @purpledragonfly8608

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jerryxdaave it’s not a conversation without respect. Lack of respect turns it into arguing and talking over one another. Lots of politicians can’t manage to have as calm and respectful of a conversation as they had in this video. The respect isn’t the only thing that made this a better conversation but it’s the most important factor (especially with contradicting political opinions). Respect is a green flag in a conversation but it doesn’t guarantee that it’ll all be good

  • @amaraduran3589
    @amaraduran35893 жыл бұрын

    Me watching this as a German and haveing no clue about American politics: 👁👄👁

  • @amaraduran3589

    @amaraduran3589

    3 жыл бұрын

    Having*

  • @lukestrauss6224

    @lukestrauss6224

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trust me u don’t wanna know ab American politics. Keep your brain cells

  • @gilbertorodriguez7949

    @gilbertorodriguez7949

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you ever chose a side GO RED !

  • @randomdude3646

    @randomdude3646

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lukestrauss6224 and don't watch the debates lmao

  • @Toinkity

    @Toinkity

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amaraduran3589 It's a train wreck

  • @OfficialTrevorHirsch
    @OfficialTrevorHirsch3 жыл бұрын

    LOVE these conversations… this is how we should talk with one another… understanding one another…

  • @SupremeRulerChaos

    @SupremeRulerChaos

    2 жыл бұрын

    You think? Do we really need morons condoning political violence aka terrorism?!?!?

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    its easier to understand one another when you all think the same and there are no actual conservatives or leftists present.

  • @juliandeleon6107
    @juliandeleon61072 жыл бұрын

    "Who decides it's a lie?" Bro the FACTS

  • @jamorains

    @jamorains

    Жыл бұрын

    our political beliefs have to do with our INTERPRETATION of the facts, not the facts themselves.

  • @anasalcido2604
    @anasalcido26043 жыл бұрын

    Ben Shapiro is going to go on a 20 minute rant on the guy who mispronounced his name.

  • @christianlopez7131

    @christianlopez7131

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hate speech 😂

  • @cameerkat

    @cameerkat

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@christianlopez7131 KSJDJD😭😭

  • @Trisiton

    @Trisiton

    3 жыл бұрын

    @RoastWorthy True, like trying to get his wife off and miserably failing.

  • @Trisiton

    @Trisiton

    3 жыл бұрын

    @RoastWorthy Actually, sweaty, hypothetically let's say we were watching "Ben Shapiro critiques WAP" right now. We could hear him say "Women don't do that, that's not how female anatomies work, I would know, my wife is a doctor!" Regarding the explicit music video "WAP by Cardi B" which stands for "Wet ass p-word."

  • @frankalmanzar3492

    @frankalmanzar3492

    3 жыл бұрын

    “Wet ass P word” 😂

  • @jimmyTooFreshh
    @jimmyTooFreshh3 жыл бұрын

    Michael: who said Kung Flu? Lawrence: President Trump Michael: did he say directly though? Everyone: yes he tweeted it Michael: he tweeted it? 😲 😂😂😂💀🤣🤣🤣 my favorite part ☝️

  • @Ray03595

    @Ray03595

    3 жыл бұрын

    For real. People really just need to lay it on that table some of the awful things Trump has said. There's no excuse for it. You can't tell me he wasn't saying racist things for the entire country to hear during the whole duration of his presidency...

  • @johnbriggs2862

    @johnbriggs2862

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ray03595 he said some touchy things but nothing racist . People just ridiculous .

  • @iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774

    @iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Shredda That dude is hated beyond belief, no reasonable measure will be placed on his behalf. Any attempt to do so will get you labeled alt-right.

  • @BroJo676

    @BroJo676

    3 жыл бұрын

    At this point, these Conservative men had me side-eye them because I could feel a bit of hypocrisy and absence of facts in their stances. They were just wiling to defend the American right-wing identity instead of coming through with cold-hearted facts.

  • @BroJo676

    @BroJo676

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnbriggs2862 When he would call African countries, Haiti, and many other Caribbean nations "shithole countries," was he not racist? When he said right-wing evangelicals shouldn't ever vote Ted Cruz because "him being Mexican would help Mexican undocumented immigrants" cross Rio Grande, while Cruz is of Puerto Rican, Irish, and Italian descent,was he not racist though? When in 1973, Black potential tenants were systematically denied and refused renting opportunities in Trump Management's building, was he not racist? When Trump would call for Obama's background and nationality check in order to deny his predisdency, was he not racist? When Trump criticized American-born Mexican-American Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel's ruling, citing the latter's Mexican heritage would make him biased, was he not racist? When he blamed the 2019 El Paso shooting on Hispanics but couldn't have the same energy for the 2017 Las Vegas shooting (the all-time deadliest American shooting) caused by a White man, was he not racist?

  • @randomgraham4302
    @randomgraham4302 Жыл бұрын

    Can you please have this conversation again with Twitter where people discuss the user experience of before and after Elon Musk bought Twitter…

  • @monsterwatchtruecrime

    @monsterwatchtruecrime

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol people are having too much fun on Twitter to discuss the nonsense that came before Elon

  • @TheyCallMeBennyBoy
    @TheyCallMeBennyBoy2 жыл бұрын

    Lawrence at the beginning like: “we should only let certain people have free speech” 💀💀

  • @zack2144

    @zack2144

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @bentobench8295

    @bentobench8295

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe I missed it…He said ‘discern’, no?

  • @diamondw1858

    @diamondw1858

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do y’all pick and choose what you comprehend often or

  • @orome9793

    @orome9793

    Жыл бұрын

    Total hypocrite.

  • @trackatlas6626
    @trackatlas66263 жыл бұрын

    "Your truth" is a personal thing, like not enjoying mustard. THE TRUTH is that mustard exists. See the difference?

  • @LoveyourzAF

    @LoveyourzAF

    3 жыл бұрын

  • @rannyleemorgan

    @rannyleemorgan

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree, Just like when a man says and identifies as a women but in reality he’s a man

  • @stickyjo8449

    @stickyjo8449

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rannyleemorgan bb that is not the same thing at all. Take your transphobia somewhere else.

  • @mantabsekali920

    @mantabsekali920

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rannyleemorgan man and women are a subjective sociological term lol. Male and female are an objective biological term

  • @mantabsekali920

    @mantabsekali920

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lucareineke9245 imagine politics is exclusive to only scientific community

  • @cameerkat
    @cameerkat3 жыл бұрын

    “but he said that directly?” “yeah... ya he tweeted it...” 😭😭

  • @RiFit

    @RiFit

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment. Like...did anyone catch that? 😂😂

  • @mahasina.k.5963

    @mahasina.k.5963

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahah

  • @ShelbieMua

    @ShelbieMua

    3 жыл бұрын

    Out of all the things he has said publicly... are you seriously surprised?

  • @AA-cl3ps

    @AA-cl3ps

    3 жыл бұрын

    No because it was sooo cunny

  • @sofiuzz4375

    @sofiuzz4375

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RiFit Hahahahahah it was so funny because I was yesss he said that i was there

  • @wawawawawa634
    @wawawawawa6342 жыл бұрын

    This conversation has shown me that, depending on your political leaning, social media and news networks will make you believe the otherside is insane and your side is the correct side.

  • @ishmael802

    @ishmael802

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats how they make their money

  • @joeymckinney
    @joeymckinney Жыл бұрын

    That was the most confusing pronunciation of Shapiro I’ve ever heard in my life

  • @julianbenjamin1552
    @julianbenjamin15523 жыл бұрын

    Ladies and gentlemen this is why education reform is pivotal for American sustainability.

  • @grammaticalchainsaw7318

    @grammaticalchainsaw7318

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen

  • @msharp6887

    @msharp6887

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea these liberals really need re education

  • @grammaticalchainsaw7318

    @grammaticalchainsaw7318

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@msharp6887 yikes! Thats incorrect

  • @msharp6887

    @msharp6887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grammaticalchainsaw7318 yea sure man

  • @grammaticalchainsaw7318

    @grammaticalchainsaw7318

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@msharp6887 😂😂

  • @kristianmir9783
    @kristianmir97833 жыл бұрын

    "We need to be able to discern who gets a voice and what they're able to say" is one of the scariest sentences possible

  • @kristianmir9783

    @kristianmir9783

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@victorli7081 Discern means to differentiate, the word itself is not authoritative but in the context of the sentence it is. He's saying that we should be able to find out who gets a voice and who doesn't... it's not that complicated

  • @AJ-lm5dl

    @AJ-lm5dl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the fascist left, where free thinkers are labeled as "fascists" and totalitarian dictators are labeled as "empathetic heroes".

  • @Bookworm51485

    @Bookworm51485

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @cdog3828

    @cdog3828

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @map2001luvskitties

    @map2001luvskitties

    3 жыл бұрын

    i think it was poorly worded. we’re talking about privately regulated social media companies. i don’t think anyone here is advocating for legal repercussions to any speech, but socially discouraging certain speech has always been a thing?

  • @Lgo559
    @Lgo5593 жыл бұрын

    i hate how each side tries to slightly change the narrative of the question just to get out of saying the wrong thing and knowing you said the wrong thing. Causes less conflict

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    they were all liberals no conservatives and no leftists were present.

  • @isaacsaiz6934
    @isaacsaiz69349 ай бұрын

    Did he really say we need context behind buring a building? No reason ever to burn a building!

  • @onedollarbleach6891
    @onedollarbleach68913 жыл бұрын

    This was a civil conversation but it really wasn't that productive, they were really just politely clashing with one another.

  • @vinhpham1701

    @vinhpham1701

    3 жыл бұрын

    sometimes, conversations end up with either side not agreeing. rlly cant change that

  • @iceblaze3043

    @iceblaze3043

    3 жыл бұрын

    Their words will influence each other more over time or they'll become more grounded in their own beliefs.

  • @onedollarbleach6891

    @onedollarbleach6891

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Colossal Dragon lmao

  • @emmyjr1231

    @emmyjr1231

    3 жыл бұрын

    you can't change minds in minutes, you can only plant a seed that may foster change over time.

  • @onedollarbleach6891

    @onedollarbleach6891

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emmyjr1231 This wasn’t minutes though, this was a whole half hour and they’re actually there for even longer bc this is edited down. I’m not saying they have to change minds, I just wanted them to have more actual discussion as they weren’t really

  • @pikachuuprising637
    @pikachuuprising6373 жыл бұрын

    "Ben Sha-Pyro"

  • @lc5929

    @lc5929

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right? Lol, I could not stop laughing.

  • @ranip7644

    @ranip7644

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @kdizzle3890

    @kdizzle3890

    3 жыл бұрын

    I died lmao

  • @williamswiniuch7527

    @williamswiniuch7527

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha yes I needed to wait for the picture to make sure I knew who he was referring to

  • @elijahrivera2858

    @elijahrivera2858

    3 жыл бұрын

    B E N S H A P🔥 R O

  • @DClike
    @DClike2 жыл бұрын

    Im sorry but it is absolutely unquestionable whether you're right or left that the right are censored wayyyyy more

  • @tylerthomason9461

    @tylerthomason9461

    Жыл бұрын

    From my experience I agree, however until there is a peer reviewed study focusing on this topic, I hesitate to make that call

  • @nostep3966

    @nostep3966

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tylerthomason9461 things keep falling to the ground around me, but, until i read a peer-reviewed study, i remain unconvinced on gravity.

  • @tylerthomason9461

    @tylerthomason9461

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nostep3966 false equivalency

  • @nostep3966

    @nostep3966

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tylerthomason9461 fallacy fallacy

  • @tylerthomason9461

    @tylerthomason9461

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nostep3966 I’m not going to give in to a Gish gallop , you made a fallacy so I pointed it out

  • @ssteph22
    @ssteph22 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who has an extensive amount of family living close to Ferguson and owning property in that area, I completely agree with Leah.

  • @VishtheFish101
    @VishtheFish1013 жыл бұрын

    They should have a four way convo conservation between leftists, liberals, centrist (moderate), and conservatives. Thats sort of how I see the major breakdown of americans in politics. Conservatives can even be broke into libertarians and social conservatives. Please do leftists vs liberals and libertarians vs conservatives.

  • @johnP0908

    @johnP0908

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tom Marvolo Riddle that's a very "black and white" point of view. there are nuances. that's why they exist. they don't commit to one side because each ideologies have their own flaws.

  • @RachelDee

    @RachelDee

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's helped me a lot to keep learning the differences between left liberal/libertarian, left authoritarian, right conservative/libertarian, and right authoritarian.

  • @jarred110

    @jarred110

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnP0908 actually no, theirs a good Quora post on this explaining the differences. I think it’s labeled under the difference between American and European politics? Or how the right is different in america than in Europe.

  • @Olivetree80

    @Olivetree80

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tom Marvolo Riddle ok voldemort...

  • @wanderingkernel5002

    @wanderingkernel5002

    3 жыл бұрын

    Idea: Political Compass Debate Have an Auth-Leftist, a Lib-Leftist, an Auth-Rightist, and a Lib-Rightist, and have them debate it out.

  • @daenerystargaryen1440
    @daenerystargaryen14403 жыл бұрын

    I wish the older gentleman spoke out more

  • @orlandoblooom

    @orlandoblooom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but he dropped some facts when it came to the laws which is good. He put the conservative in a suit in his place.

  • @marleewells6

    @marleewells6

    3 жыл бұрын

    DUDE i said the same thing and he commented that he did but it was edited

  • @aristoadalbert6210

    @aristoadalbert6210

    3 жыл бұрын

    He said it was edited out

  • @PVilla27

    @PVilla27

    3 жыл бұрын

    The little he said was great

  • @ghog4792

    @ghog4792

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orlandoblooom not really, I think both sides had great facts

  • @melissamelodies3729
    @melissamelodies37292 жыл бұрын

    Loved this discussion. A bunch of great people.

  • @humanramp9502
    @humanramp9502 Жыл бұрын

    It's unfortunate that when everyone was talking about the burnt businesses, not one of them brought up David Dorne.

  • @Worldofpg
    @Worldofpg3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate Jeromes willingness to listen and honesty. He seems to genuinely care.

  • @orlandoblooom

    @orlandoblooom

    3 жыл бұрын

    He’s the one who said he said something in the past that came off as controversial though.. which makes me think it must have been racist or something.

  • @whimbrella

    @whimbrella

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orlandoblooom but if he changed why would it matter... ?

  • @eddd2932

    @eddd2932

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orlandoblooom he mentioned that when he was younger he didn't see extreme views challenged which is why he thought that people shouldn't be censored so people could challenge it instead of hide it. He could of had stereotypical views on other races and religions but he changed which is great.

  • @reaputnam

    @reaputnam

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know him personally! Great guy

  • @saranguyen2788

    @saranguyen2788

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Kerim Games He never said his previous extreme views were about racism tho. It could’ve been his previous views on LGBT maybe stemming from religion. A lot of people had very extreme outdated views on LGBT community in the past liberal & conservative

  • @KermitDominicano
    @KermitDominicano3 жыл бұрын

    The way Lawrence said Ben Shapiro LMFAO

  • @israeltijero7685

    @israeltijero7685

    3 жыл бұрын

    You mean Ben "Sharparo"

  • @RobertZemeckis2025

    @RobertZemeckis2025

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@israeltijero7685 its king shapiro left soy wing destroyer

  • @larrythesociologist

    @larrythesociologist

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leave me alone 😂

  • @bogo_wanderlust3692

    @bogo_wanderlust3692

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RobertZemeckis2025 he is the first soy boy with that voice..nothing masculine about that guy

  • @nicolejohnson5358
    @nicolejohnson53582 жыл бұрын

    Before I even watch this, I believe conservatives are censored more and I'm as liberal as they come. But I do think in some cases the censorship comes from the stigma that comes with it. The racism, sexism, and lgbtqia hate is what's being censored. The question is, should it? Also, some conservatives are censored before they get a chance to speak and are immediately attacked for an opinion that's not rooted in hate or offensiveness

  • @jmailmonopolis6296

    @jmailmonopolis6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    Democrats are majority racist. Also none of the people on here are conservatives.

  • @nicolejohnson5358

    @nicolejohnson5358

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jmailmonopolis6296 lol sure

  • @sofiasofia-em
    @sofiasofia-em2 жыл бұрын

    As a liberal, the phrase "We need to be able to discern who gets a voice and what they're able to say" is terrifying. That's the opposite of the left that's the extreme right, that's fascism...

  • @forsetiaxe6784

    @forsetiaxe6784

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not really. Both the extremes on the Left and Right can occupy that space.

  • @kristinrichmond8185

    @kristinrichmond8185

    Жыл бұрын

    What he said is truly terrifying.

  • @sillytiktoks9849

    @sillytiktoks9849

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kristinrichmond8185 I think it was just a poorly constructed statement. He's argument in the whole video goes beyond, his wrong choice of words

  • @whateveriwant8039
    @whateveriwant80393 жыл бұрын

    We all know this is gonna be a mess Well I was wrong Edit 2. I know people hate this but I sinisterly thank you all for 2k likes

  • @itsnatemate7697

    @itsnatemate7697

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep! The minute I saw the notification that was my first thought.

  • @shaded389

    @shaded389

    3 жыл бұрын

    Especially the comment section

  • @ileachoffeverything6535

    @ileachoffeverything6535

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah itz abbout to gett messi

  • @bunille

    @bunille

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only reason it's a mess is because of the censorship, it's ironic.

  • @xboxfullauto1000

    @xboxfullauto1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... and it turned out that it wasn't a mess

  • @evdogg9186
    @evdogg91863 жыл бұрын

    Free speech doesn't equate to being free from consequence.

  • @apsinthos5439

    @apsinthos5439

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly Edit: and anyone should judge it objectively and not swayed by their emotion or mere group pressure, else some major power will snowballed and unchallenged.

  • @mementomori1749

    @mementomori1749

    3 жыл бұрын

    true people keep forgetting that!

  • @the_cappybara

    @the_cappybara

    3 жыл бұрын

    That also means anyone can hold any idea, even if it is horrific. They can face consequences, but its pretty simple. You censor it, it gets worse. Even if they hold that idea, if you push it away from a space that allows everyone to talk about it, then it forces people into a bubble, and boom, their ideas become entrenched.

  • @drunkduck9854

    @drunkduck9854

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who's giving out the *consequences* though?

  • @il967

    @il967

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, Twitter banning you isn't suppressing free speech. It's just either a shitty TOS, or a deliberate shittty interpretation of it, or both. Twitter has every right to ban anyone because they are a private company and they own their platform. It's best to just boycott Twitter.

  • @jayghale
    @jayghale3 жыл бұрын

    “I feel safer” girl😂 feeling safe and “being safe” are two totally separate things.

  • @jailonbailey2149

    @jailonbailey2149

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s what I am saying

  • @notlookinforahug

    @notlookinforahug

    2 жыл бұрын

    Feelings matter to these snowflakes. Truth is she absolutely DOES NOT support real free speech. They want to redefine it

  • @snorriivan6365

    @snorriivan6365

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just like an ostrich burrying it's head in the ground, can't see the danger but it still exists, you just won't see it coming or have a chance to defend yourself.

  • @thee_rarest7201
    @thee_rarest72013 жыл бұрын

    4:00 he brutally mutilated his name holy sht how do you mess that up

  • @jonathanrivero3424

    @jonathanrivero3424

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @abbygriffin9105

    @abbygriffin9105

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol.

  • @camilleboudville3043
    @camilleboudville30433 жыл бұрын

    "There is true and untrue and if we begin to link those two with political affiliations, then it's dangerous." Couldn't have said it better myself, love Lawrence!

  • @Peace8267
    @Peace82673 жыл бұрын

    "He [Alex Jones] was right about the frogs, though." I CAN'T

  • @josephpugh1331

    @josephpugh1331

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look it up lol it’s kinda awesome. There was a chemical in the water that caused the frogs to grow female characteristics.

  • @wheatandtares9764

    @wheatandtares9764

    3 жыл бұрын

    its called atrazine(herbicide), which feminized frogs(in a study) and caused male frogs to become feminized and copulate with other male frogs. Those are also called xenoestrogens and affect the endocrine system and are possibly, among other chemicals, a reason for lower sperm count rates today.

  • @josephpugh1331

    @josephpugh1331

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wheatandtares9764 yeah, super cool

  • @Peace8267

    @Peace8267

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wheatandtares9764 oh cool lol.

  • @compa6251

    @compa6251

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wheatandtares9764 so, at the end, the friggin' frogs really were gay

  • @VWGG1
    @VWGG1 Жыл бұрын

    “I feel” is a huge detriment to conversation

  • @sagardia8891
    @sagardia8891 Жыл бұрын

    I'm getting addictet to these Jubilee meetings!

  • @marianacastro1134
    @marianacastro11343 жыл бұрын

    This was such a balanced and respectful conversation. Gives me hope

  • @rorymarcel228

    @rorymarcel228

    3 жыл бұрын

    same I almost cried after watching this because of how peaceful it was. I thought it would be a screaming match.

  • @Wowowowowowowowowowowowow
    @Wowowowowowowowowowowowow3 жыл бұрын

    Shaun king didn’t get banned, he got a suspension in 2015. He is still on twitter. Still censorship, but the conversation seemed to imply he was deplatformed.

  • @larrythesociologist

    @larrythesociologist

    3 жыл бұрын

    I said temporarily and repeatedly banned

  • @rwilson9759

    @rwilson9759

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@larrythesociologist I thought twitter had a 3 strikes and then you were permanently banned ? Maybe Vijaya and Jack changed that or maybe Shaun was not banned and simply suspended.

  • @larrythesociologist

    @larrythesociologist

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rwilson9759 yeah temporary bans. I should’ve said suspended

  • @thewand3r3r45

    @thewand3r3r45

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@larrythesociologist suspension is not the same as being banned. Permanently banned is what happened to Alex Jones or Donald trump meanwhile the racist Shaun King is still allowed to practice his hatred and racism online

  • @larrythesociologist

    @larrythesociologist

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thewand3r3r45 TEMPORARY SUSPENSION is what I said. Also, Shaun King doesn't practice hatred. This is the end of this conversation.

  • @ariannadadarrio68
    @ariannadadarrio689 ай бұрын

    Thank you Jubilee for helping people connect.. Especially during a pandemic that was so wildly important. Much love to the crew

  • @animallover2476
    @animallover2476 Жыл бұрын

    19:03 ... People were referring to people with heart and/ or lung conditions! It can easily lead to a heart attack or stroke

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