“There’s a reason I’m not put in charge of those decisions,” was accidentally the wisest answer that person could have provided.

@Jennyfisch

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! All those people saying "But if they hurt someone I loved..." Yeah, that's why there's a justice system in place and not just vigilantism.

@bill578

Жыл бұрын

Except the fact that death penalty cases have to be decided by a jury, people just like you and me. Not legal or ethical "experts"

@TheBananaBoba

Жыл бұрын

How is that wise? Any fool could have said that

@PROVOCATEURSK

Жыл бұрын

Those people in charge shouldn´t be running a country but here we are.

@Winnas

Жыл бұрын

NONONONONO you are a CITIZEN - it is entirely your DECISION.

The thing that bothers me is that there are way too many innocent people who were executed. In those cases, justice wasn’t just especially since their rights infringed upon. The ones where evidence was ignored just to say the case was closed. Those cases really bother me.

@ulixo1132

Жыл бұрын

Yes I was about to comment this. It's too easy to forget those people

@arianam6430

Жыл бұрын

The amount of people who get locked up for life with scanty evidence is bewildering, not to mention put on death row. There's a reason why the south has the most prisons. At this time, Texas has more prisons than it has colleges and most of the people in JAIL are in jail without a conviction; they're too poor to afford bail and are left indefinitely waiting for a trial for a crime they may very well have never committed

@JadynHawkins

Жыл бұрын

i completely agree

@sharyageorge

Жыл бұрын

@Therealseth I’m one too but what does our belief has to do with innocent people being executed?

@BonShula

Жыл бұрын

@@sharyageorge They go to heaven

I don't have an ethical problem with heinous criminals being punished with death (eg: Dylan Roof). However, our system is too flawed to ensure innocent people are not being executed, and that alone should make it a non starter.

@rutealmeida3331

Жыл бұрын

exaaactly

@josearguettabitoni6448

Жыл бұрын

There’s not that many innocent people that get the death penalty

@solido888

Жыл бұрын

@@josearguettabitoni6448 oh thanks for clearing that up. You've completely changed my mind.

@PeytonPatrick

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly said

@goodenergi

Жыл бұрын

U said this amazingly

as a european, this is odd

@giumorbia

Жыл бұрын

Y’all ain’t as crazy as us

@generalshy6791

Жыл бұрын

As if europe has no history regarding executing folk lol

@dreezy1270

Жыл бұрын

@@generalshy6791 right they used guillotines in public squares 😂

@RichardHudlin

Жыл бұрын

Europe regarding execution: "Tell me, America! Tell me where you learned to do this stuff?! America: "I learned it from you! I learned it by watching you...😢"

@stivib5937

Жыл бұрын

Well as a european i think there should be death penalty in europe aswell

There is a big difference between wishing someone dead and being in favour of the death penalty.

@mrcooljay7276

8 ай бұрын

No there isn't

@cxarhomell5867

7 ай бұрын

​@@mrcooljay7276Explain how, then.

One of the biggest misconceptions about the Death Penalty is that it is cheaper than keeping people in prison for life. There was a study coming out of Washington state (where I think cut is based) a while back that found the legal costs necessary to prosecute someone with the death penalty outweigh the costs of keeping someone in prison for the rest of their lives.

@fellith4295

Жыл бұрын

That sounds unreal

@applefly8

Жыл бұрын

True the death penalty it’s not as cut an dry cost wise. The cost for them to exhaust there appeals alone

@eleum1400

Жыл бұрын

name of the study?

@trh-bee4383

Жыл бұрын

That's simply because they can appeal several times and the state needs to pay the jury, lawyers, etc. But if we simply execute them without giving them more than 1 chance to appeal, then i think it can be way cheaper in those situations. And i dont mean execute those we might be sure are guilty, but those we know they did the crime like mass shooters, repeat offenders for rape and pedophilia with concrete evidence, etc

@grapepale8446

Жыл бұрын

It takes one bullet.

It’s so surprising to me how much of them thought of it as an economical problem

@PROVOCATEURSK

Жыл бұрын

It could be cheap but billionaire prison owners want money from taxpayers.

Here in Canada, the death penalty was abolished in 1976, and we never saw an explosion in crime as a result. In fact, we're one of the safest countries on Earth (12th in the world, according to the Global Peace Index, versus 129th for the United States). Watching this video, it made me realize how emotionally-driven the debate is in the United States, rather than policy-driven. It's not really about what's best for reducing crime, it's about how much you hate criminals and how much you want to take revenge on them and make them suffer. Because in reality, there's strong evidence showing that the death penalty isn't even all that effective at reducing crime compared to other punishments like life-in-prison. It is possible to build a safe society without the death penalty, through prevention and rehabilitation. It would also be more humane.

@ghoulssz

Жыл бұрын

ya hit the nail on the head. as an american, our view of justice is incredibly warped and based in punishment rather than rehabilitation.

@C-lr9ce

Жыл бұрын

ty, i think we need to remove our human response of disgust and subjective morality from the picture and look at whether or not death penalty actually solves our problems (it doesnt, and non of us are god)

@bulelanibotman

Жыл бұрын

do you think its due to the "abolishment" of the death penalty that you never saw an explosion in crime or its due to the country being economically stable that people would rather have a profession than commit crime?

@antoinetremblay4449

Жыл бұрын

@@bulelanibotman why crime goes down is a complicated question, based on a whole host of factors (including, as you mentioned, socioeconomic factors). My point is simply that the death penalty is NOT one of those factors. By and large, it does not contribute much to crime reduction, and seems to me more based in moral disgust than anything (I mean, I get it, I hate mass shooters as much as the next guy, but it's still not a very rational reaction as a matter of policy). Plus, of course, all the other issues already mentioned in the video, like the discriminatory effect of the death penalty, the risk of wrongful condamnations, the financial cost (which is higher than life-in-prison), etc.

@Northstander

Жыл бұрын

Similar situation in Europe, where most states abolished the death penalty many decades ago...I would say it is safer living here than just about any country on the planet where they still execute their citizens as a means of punishment...sounds really bad when you look at it like that. As an outsider, so maybe not the best to pass judgement, it seems like the US has serious issues tackling the causes of crime, such as poor mental health, poverty and easy access to lethal weapons...if they can get on top of those things then the number of crimes where they currently consider applying the death penalty should fall. I don't have total confidence in the legal system in my country (UK) to correctly convict every time and, even though I am totally opposed to the death penalty, think the risk of executing one person by mistake makes it a totally unsuitable form of punishment...you can't pardon a dead person!

Makes me happy to see others brought up the unfairness of the Justice system as well🙌

@QBWALKER3

Жыл бұрын

Let Pancho cook

@SchwarzSchwertkampfer

Жыл бұрын

The Death Penalty is Right. No exceptions. Even God made hell for the dead an damn, an unrepentant sinners.

@Monitice

Жыл бұрын

@@SchwarzSchwertkampfer Jesus said, cast the first stone if you have nothing to reproach yourself for. But you seem to be perfect and sinless since you're throwing judgment all over.

@SchwarzSchwertkampfer

Жыл бұрын

@@Monitice He also said an eye for eye an tooth for tooth; last I checked humanity does not adhere to "He who is without sin; case the first stone" . Last I check humanity is not Christian they only give lipservice to Christ, while the countries allow the manufacturing an distribution of drugs. A conscious allowance even if it is ignoring the illegal actions of its citizens [the numerous Cartels for example an all manner of puppets groups from all back grounds that serve them]. List goes on; Show me a real Christian that can tell me "He who is without sin; cast the first stone" ; last I checked God thoroughly tends to cast this wretched universe an Sodom an Gomorrah planet into the Lake of Fire an brimstone. People only like God so long as he promotes peace; they turn a blind to how disgusted he is at the state of the planet he made. People tell Christians to forgive only to sin against them again until it becomes nauseating. My opinion on such matters is whimsical, when compared to the corrupt justice system and the radicals groups that champion the system that serves them. It is easy to worry about my opinion. Because it is a nightmare to realize you cannot change Trump's opinion an power; nor the voice he gives to those that have been wronged. I am black I do not pretend life is fairytale; my opinion is only the reality of society. Reality is if society can exercise the death penalty it does. Regardless of society's morality, a morality that is based on popular opinion an the passing of time. Humanity's Morality is a joke.

@user-bk9fk2tq2z

Ай бұрын

@@Monitice Jesus is not real.

Here in the states the death penalty has been abused to target marginalized communities rather than use it for any actual justice. The only way it would be useful is if there was a complete overhaul of the entire death row system.

@aedanhetling101

Жыл бұрын

Cap

@BlackRose-rp7kv

Жыл бұрын

Bullshit alert 🚨 bullshit alert 🚨

@ivy8483

Жыл бұрын

Oh please same old “ minorities are victims “ mentality cry me a River - immigrant Hispanic

@sofiarou7603

Жыл бұрын

bruh what?

@Kxkzful

Жыл бұрын

Doubt it. A lot of these rhetoric sounds like revisionist ideas brought on by bad or manipulated statistics.

I think self defense isn’t murder. It’s self defense.

@jannaschindler6064

Жыл бұрын

It is killing. Its just not murder.

@stinkygremlin267

Жыл бұрын

It's killing. Self defense is getting the other person away safely for both of you. Shooting someone because it's self defense is just murder

@stinkygremlin267

Жыл бұрын

Or not murder but unintentional killing

@user-bk9fk2tq2z

Ай бұрын

Murder is pre-meditated/planned out.

Morals aside, as long as there is a possibility that you are executing an innocent person, the death penalty should absolutely not exist

@ezay8694

Жыл бұрын

I think if morals were truly aside, if the number of innocent people executed is small enough, it’s justifiable.

@Shinzizzu

Жыл бұрын

@@ezay8694 Just because it was a small amount does not mean their lives weren't extremely important. Innocent people still died. I think you would feel differently if you or someone you loved, or someone who would have made a big impact on the world got the death penalty as an innocent person.

@Aaron-kj8dv

Жыл бұрын

They give a false choice of right or wrong. It's not an either/or, you can put parameters on it and support it for when there's video evidence or say like 10+ witnesses but other than that you can say no

@ComedyGlor

Жыл бұрын

@@ezay8694 lemme guess you're a utilitarian?

@Monitice

Жыл бұрын

@@ComedyGlor lemme guess you're fodder?

I would rather a thousand people who did deserve the death penalty get life in prison, than one innocent person get executed

@greebishm8

17 күн бұрын

Great! Thanks for signing up sir, your spot is right there. Hold tight!

I think the people who said "everyone can be reformed" or something along those lines are too naive about what some humans are capable of. Sometimes, certain people need to be kept away from society.

@jermaarj

Жыл бұрын

Exactly like not everyone deserves a second chance some ppl are just evil

@Syncmarios

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, people that steal or do some minor crimes - yeah, they can change. People that do bigger and awful crimes? I dont think so.

@JordanSamonelol

Жыл бұрын

But does that mean those people deserve death, though? I'm advocating that they get a second chance, I'm just wondering what you think? I used to be for it, but after doing more research, I'm against it.

@michaelag8256

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanSamonelol i don’t think rehabilitation is possible for certain people. That thing that destroyed the Groene family was in jail multiple times for doing sick stuff to children. He was “rehabilitated” and went on to do some unspeakable shit. For a one off murder, maybe rehabilitation can be possible. But for repeated patterns of behavior? No

@arianam6430

Жыл бұрын

​@Jordan Samone I wouldn't compare life in prison without possibility of parole as a "second chance". Especially life in a max security prison.

“everyone deserves a second chance” oh I beg to differ

@vommir.

Жыл бұрын

Most people saying this wouldn't say the same if one of their family member was taking away from them..

@SgtNoPants

Жыл бұрын

@@vommir. ikr it reminds me of the dude that killed a mother, 24 years later the daughter of the victim gets killed by the same dude after he got released. The worst part of it is that she forgave him for what he did

@AnimeProduction101

Жыл бұрын

A guy (Jim Lee or something like that) went to jail and was on parole for murdering his girlfriend and then 5 years later when back to jail for SA a 3 year old. All because "he deserves a seond change."

@vommir.

Жыл бұрын

@@SgtNoPants that's mad!

I highly disagree with the man who said that everyone can be reformed. People who mess with kids will never change and need to be thrown into a dark hole in the middle of nowhere.

@laurahill5732

Жыл бұрын

Right? The people saying they can be reformed are crazy.

@jennosyde709

10 ай бұрын

Not everyone can be reformed, but that does not mean that we should not try.

@cinders2894

10 ай бұрын

@@jennosyde709 not with people who mess with kids. Their minds are broken and they should never be released back into society.

@jennosyde709

10 ай бұрын

@@cinders2894 Rehabilitation does not necessarily mean that they have to be released back into society. It is about making a conscious effort to reform their behavior and make them come to terms with the nature of their actions. If a person poses a threat to others, then they should not be released back into society. This is still not a justification for the death penalty, but again, it is no excuse not to try to rehabilitate them. Whether or not a person can reasonably be rehabilitated should be determined after numerous attempts have been made, with the assistance and discretion of psychological professionals.

@Astrophile2345

9 ай бұрын

Well they can be reformed too, killing someone unnecessarily even after being caught as a murder is not always the option . The person should be sent to psychologists and remain in jail as long as he doesn't recover from that mental sickness. Death is no joke man please understand 🙏.

2:40 That guy literally looks like an angel and talks like one too

I can recommend the book "The sun does shine" by Anthony Ray Hinton who tells his own story about being on death row for 30 years while being innocent

the last input is very enlightening. thank you and i'm so sorry for your loss.

I think the problem is not with the death penalty it’s but with the judicial system. A person can be wrongly convicted and eventually put to death for crimes he didn’t commit. It happens in states that have the death penalty, so I think a person should be put to death only in a case where’s there isn’t a chance in the slightest that he’s the wrong guy. Other wise I think that the death sentence is a conviction that should be put on the table in a serious enough case

@Aaron-kj8dv

Жыл бұрын

I love when people dive deeper into problems. The death penalty itself is just a tool, that in itself is not right or wrong, it comes down to how the tool is used.

@lauslora6511

Жыл бұрын

but some will argue there might always be a 'slight chance' what about if someone murdered you closes friend of family member or physically messed them up. im sure u like alot of others would want them to be hurt back

@rodrigosantosvaleriano1859

Жыл бұрын

It might sound harsh, but I think it depends on how much weight it feels to you to know there are people wrongly convicted. For sake of fairness I tell that I don't support death penalty regardless of it, but if you are like me to think that a single execution of an innocent is something nothing will ever make up to, which is reasonable, then death penalty shouldn't even be considered on a presumed perfect judicial system, because any "turns out it's not that perfect" makes it unworthy.

This is the best and most nuanced video you’ve ever produced imo and I’m happy to see it. This sort of content makes me perceive this channel as legitimate and thought provoking as opposed to a dating channel.

I love watching these videos. I have very little down time and when I get the chance I sit and watch through these opinion videos. The topics are amazing and the different perspectives shared really bring a new awareness. These videos make my brain tick and I love it😆 Thank you cut & cast, you’re amazing 🙌🏼

2:35 Lady with the pink/purple shirt is my exact thoughts. I’m surprised so many people were okay with it when rehabilitation in our country is so god awful

@Noah-xf4mf

Жыл бұрын

100%. And people will say “what about this scenario where they are past rehabilitation” and my thing is like how do you know? Our society doesn’t even try in the first place

@AnimeProduction101

Жыл бұрын

@@Noah-xf4mf Do you trust someone like Dylann Roof or Nikolas Cruz to be rehabilitated? I sure as hell don't. Those monster's should be put down. If you believe they can be fixed then you can welcome them to your town and you can live within the same town as them.

@olivia_zzzz

Жыл бұрын

to quote another comment: “the death penalty is only given for capital crimes. capital crimes are always horrendous crimes of murder. can include rape, kidnapping, and torture that lead to death. so it’s not like everyone gets a death sentence.” so i disagree with that woman’s take, because those types of people really do not deserve a second chance/ rehabilitation. i think when people are capable of doing such horrible things they should not be around society in general at all. it’s really pretty naive to just be like “oh but they’ll be good again!” like no they won’t, not if they had done such horrendous things in the past. this isn’t just a petty crime like robbery, it’s murder and rape

@stinkygremlin267

Жыл бұрын

​@@olivia_zzzzwell you would be ignorant because there was this man that raped a woman and now they did a Ted Talk about that experience

@ryanjohnson8960

Жыл бұрын

@@olivia_zzzz people put on death row for capital crimes they didn’t commit

Where there is a chance that the justice system gets it wrong (which is always as no system is perfect), the death penalty is not right. You can exhonerate an innocent person wrongly incarcerated, but you cannot unkill them.

@interuniverse2393

Жыл бұрын

The comment I was looking for. To err is human.

@IsraelLlerena

Жыл бұрын

What’s your opinion on LGBT ?

@DZ-jm1my

Жыл бұрын

@@IsraelLlerena what do you mean by this

@Theoneandonlybish

Жыл бұрын

​​@@IsraelLlerena its 2023 you should accept everyone. We already had this conversation about lgbt move onnnn

@colemanroberts1102

Жыл бұрын

You can't give them back their time spent in prison either. Even if we developed a miracle drug that could extend their life by the length of time served, we couldn't give them back the specific period of time lost and the resulting damage to livelihood, relationships, etc. If we have an objection to irreversible punishments, we need to shift to a fine only system. No public service, no imprisonment, no death penalty. Money can be paid back, but, as you point out, time and life cannot. If we feel some crimes deserve more than a simple fine, we have to accept the possibility of miscarriage of justice. This doesn't necessarily mean we ought to use the death penalty (justice is served whether you lose your life at a gallows or in a concrete box for the rest of your life), but I disagree with this specific argument.

I believe that there are people that will be dangerous forever and should be kept away from society at all costs, but I do feel like the death penalty can be really hard on survivors or loved ones of victims. It usually drags on for decades with lots of appeals and stays and I think that's really stressful and prevents people from getting closure. So personally I'm for life sentences with no possibility of parole or pardon

@DA-js7xz

Жыл бұрын

This. It also doesn't bring peace to people.

@C-lr9ce

Жыл бұрын

I think when we talk abt moral questions like this, we have to put aside our automatic response of disgust. Pedophiles can’t help but be pedos and are sometimes that way bc they were abused as children. People commit heinous crimes bc we live in a capitalist society which values profit over human life, well being and mental health. Put a person with ASPD in a situation where they have access to wealth and connections, and they will react very differently than someone born to poverty and obscurity. And the justice system is not always fair or just- ie marginalized individuals are more likely to be charged with death penalty. I just don’t get who state-sanctioned murder benefits in the end . Those crimes and those lives will not be brought back. And death would be the easy way out for them. When perps commit these heinous crimes, sometimes they are just psycho but sometimes they are hopeless, so letting them live with that despair (and regret if they are capable of change and reflection, and can admit that they were wrong) can be an even greater punishment and avoids the case of human beings wrongfully playing god. Like you, I feel like the best option is keep these individuals away from the people they can harm and/or society at large-- rehabilitate the ones who can be rehabilitated, and for those who commit crimes like mass killing, keep them away from people forever, ie life w/o possibility of parole.

@jessicaredmond6770

Жыл бұрын

!!!!!

@haileyparsons3844

Жыл бұрын

​@D A Depends on the person, I know for me it would. My taxes aren't going to someone who can get married, have kids, get an education a degree have a place to stay, and food to eat. Knowing that person is gone would give some form of a closure, that person won't hurt others and not just me.

As a surviving family and friend of 4 murder victims, I support the death penalty. However, I didn’t want it.

Only for the fact that many innocent people have been exectuted, i am not for the death penalty.

@abiola33

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree.

@josearguettabitoni6448

Жыл бұрын

But a lot more of guilty people die due to death penalty

@egyptiansushi

Жыл бұрын

​@@josearguettabitoni6448so? one innocent is too many

@Shinzizzu

Жыл бұрын

@@egyptiansushi Thank you. People seem to not understand that. Maybe they would if it were them or someone they love.

@AnimeProduction101

Жыл бұрын

Only 4% of people on death row may be innocent. So if 100 people are up for death row; 96 are guilty and 4 MAY be innocent. So you're okay with 96 murders just chilling in a cell with the possibility of getting free? A life sentence doesn't alway last until they die. 15% are on probation, 13% on retrial release, and 8% on parole. There is a 66% likilihood of them comminting a crime again. Jimmy Lee Gray murdered his girlfriend, got paroled, and then ended up SA a 3 year old. If you are okay with it then you can welcome them to your home and not put others are risk.

my opinion is that not everyone deserves another chance

@ignismaniaco9935

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. A second chance after missing the hoop? Sure! A second chance after the dark things humanity does for their own pleasure, that I’m not so sure of.

@randomthings8720

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Kept hearing everyone can change and grow. I truly don’t believe a r*pist or p*dophile is going to stop being a sick and disgusting human being. If you can look at a child that way, or treat another person that way, what’s gonna change that?

@AnimeProduction101

Жыл бұрын

Second chance to the 16 year old who robbed a bank. Not to the 19 year old who murdered 17 people and injuried 17 more.

@lauslora6511

Жыл бұрын

yes this is true

@YJiang-vy1oq

Жыл бұрын

Not school shooters

Thanks for showing all those different opinions on such a difficult subject

As someone who works in corrections and firmly believed in rehabilitation, I feel there are some crimes just too heinous to have any other options to preserve the safety of the general population.

This video was such a journey. I have never had such conflicting thoughts in my life.

@TREVASLARK

Ай бұрын

Agreed !

Thinking everyone can be rehabilitated is some insane mental gymnastics.

@lux2094

Жыл бұрын

not everyone can be but everyone should be given the opportunity

@Alex-wg4xd

Жыл бұрын

@@lux2094 Sure, Dahmer, Kaczynski, and mass shooting terrorists should be rehabilitated. C'mon man.

@keke555788

Жыл бұрын

​@@lux2094 no matter how you slice an dice it pedophiles an serial murderers cannot be rehabilitated.

@avatarreusi.2509

Жыл бұрын

@@lux2094 While I am fully against the death penalty this arguement confuses me. A second chance would imply a reintegration into society. When a criminal was wrongly judged to be rehabilitatable it had terrible consequences.

@lux2094

Жыл бұрын

@@avatarreusi.2509 well I don't mean let every murderer out of prison once I mean that programs aiming to rehabilitate should be done with great effort for every inmate until it is clearly proven that no progress will be made.

I would be interested in a counter on screen for how many people chose which side!

“ Two thumbs up for the death penalty “ took me out 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

THANK YOU FOR THE LAST ONE! It just shows what a warped idea of justice is prevelent in the USA. Jails as torture chambers, killing as satisfaction after terrible injustices. What a perverted view of the world

@meganaxeliar

Жыл бұрын

We live in a world where there have been cases of NEWBORN babies being ravaged and beaten to death by men. That’s the world we live in. I’m sorry, but if you don’t support the absolute destruction and purge of such perpetrators, you’re as evil as them in my eyes. You have to hate to protect what you love.

@ifureplyurgay56

Жыл бұрын

@@meganaxeliar well said

@elizabradbury7266

Жыл бұрын

@@meganaxeliar not supporting torture makes someone evil? 🤔

@meganaxeliar

Жыл бұрын

@@elizabradbury7266 Not supporting inflicted misery on a newborn baby ravager makes you good?🤢 FYI, something as simple as prison is a form of torture, locking someone in an inescapable, small cage.

@elizabradbury7266

Жыл бұрын

@@meganaxeliar I don't support inflicting misery on anyone unless it is necessary for the protection of others. For example, yes it's necessary for them to suffer in prison because it's the only way to keep them from harming others. But I don't see the point in inflicting suffering on someone just because.

3:12 “I just don’t believe that humans should decide who gets to die” - Yeah, tell that to the murderer. Then wait for them to laugh at your face.

If you look at the history of the death penalty many judicial systems have found that it is an inherently biased system. There are also no credible studies that show a real deterrent effect from the death penalty. One of the main characteristics of an offender is that they do not consider the consequences when commuting a crime. It is also significantly more expensive because they essentially have unlimited appeals and the court costs are much higher. Most states also do not have qualified legal representation for offenders facing the death penalty.

State sanctioned murder is still murder.

One of the only videos that has made me tear up. Such a hard question to answer

@greebishm8

17 күн бұрын

sad

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind

@Panzer9

19 күн бұрын

This logic doesn't apply to murderers

omg im writing a 15 page research paper right now on the death penalty for history class! my youtube recommended page really said "for you"

3:44 lady Yes, I absolutely 100% agree with that.

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

Reasons why I don't support the death penalty: (1) There have been people put to death for crimes that (after their death) it has been proven that they were not guilty of. To me, that should be a full hard stop to the practice. If someone has been wrongfully convicted and held in jail for decades, there isn't a way to go back in time and fix it, but there can be monetary restitution that can help. For those who have been put to death, there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to make it right. (2) It is not an effective deterrent for crime. States/jurisdictions with the death penalty do not see lower violent crime rates than those who do not have it. (3) It costs taxpayers more to put someone to death (most of which is the cost of litigation for appeals) than to keep them in jail for life.

@aqm776

Жыл бұрын

2- That is not true, u literally just assumed that is the cause when its just a correlation

Brave of them to answer. Such a long and complex debate about society, cut to a few seconds of answering a controversial question to be put into just yes or no

The death penalty is only given for capital crimes in states where it’s legal. Capital crimes are always horrendous crimes of murder. Can include rape, kidnapping, and torture that led to death. So it’s not like everyone gets a death sentence.

@ericjohnson5617

Жыл бұрын

Where it's legal? The voters of WA state say yes, the governor says no... a female corrections officer was killed and the perp. Didn't face his sentence...

@Fishyface2424

Жыл бұрын

I dont think half the people even understand that...

@KD-bf9og

Жыл бұрын

It should be that way but 1. A lot of people are wrongfully convicted for crimes they didn’t do on a regular basis 2. There are instances of people getting the death penalty for smaller crimes. It’s not always just murders who receive the death penalty and sometimes the people who most deserve the death penalty don’t even receive it

@dejuhvu1793

Жыл бұрын

According to these people, we’re executing people for “petty” crimes 😂

@MillerDPOY2024

Жыл бұрын

@@draedonapotheosis I agree that false convictions are a problem however, we have way better technology then we did before. Also, its not that "bad things are good when they happen to bad people" I think that it's that the death penalty insures people who commit the most heinous of crimes will never victomize anybody ever again.

That last one hit me...

the one with the police officer killing those kids made me cry 😭🤬

If sb has murdered a person it doesn’t bring the person back when you are killing the murderer.

@nguvu4838

Жыл бұрын

It can bring a sense of solace to the victims family, however, and prevent any and all possibility of repeat offenses.

@lau3843

Жыл бұрын

But you are getting rid of a murderer which is good

1:25 probably talking about the 2022 Nongbua Lamphu, Thailand Nursery attack (36 dead + perpetrator)

@parinuser

8 ай бұрын

I’m Thai so that’s what I thought but I was just checking the comments to make sure

As an attorney, I can tell you that the death penalty is not a deterrent. It also costs more to execute someone than to incarcerate the person for life when you take into consideration all their rights to appeals. If it worked, I would support it. But it doesn't.

To the young man that got shot over a dumb argument on the bus, 5:10 I’m so sorry. 😖❤️

The death penalty is the easy way out. Let them rot in prison

@hecktavlad666

Жыл бұрын

facts

@soIve_et_coagula

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why do so many of these murderers commit suicide before they’re caught? Easy escape from the consequences.

@justven24

Жыл бұрын

factsss this is why i’m against it, make them suffer how they made others suffer

@earthalien2584

Жыл бұрын

@@soIve_et_coagula " commit suicide before they’re caught?" Do they?

@magsg8477

Жыл бұрын

I never understood how death is the easy way out...? It's literally horrific. As opposed to waking up everyday, getting 3 meals, getting outside time, socialize and other basic activities. That's too much living and luxury for a person who committed such horrible crimes.

Living is 10x more painful than death. And Thinking all can be rehabilitated is naive. Especially for those so convinced they did nothing wrong. Some are too far gone… at least from what I experienced those are my thoughts.

Many good points this video. Interesting.

I am for it in some situations but that last girl has a good point. It’s such a tough subject.

Not everyone deserves a second chance. Some people are just beyond hope and irreparable and there is no rehabilitation for them.

7:00 best perspective: the death penalty is the final straw and with how the western justice system works we have no guarantees of justice. with no death penalty the rate of wrongful executions drops to 0%

@Goobagoo

Жыл бұрын

It's only at 4% brother

@bengarland9666

Жыл бұрын

@@Goobagoo 4% is far too high when you consider how executing someone who would otherwise spend the rest of their life behind bars accomplishes next to nothing

5:42 I feel the same!

this is chilling to watch

this is a very jarring question to ask. i go back and forth on this all the time. i believe that some of this evil in this world should be eliminated but i also feel like that’s way too easy on someone who did something so horrendous. either eliminate, put into solitary confinement til death ,or somehow we rehabilitate them if they seem like they learned and wanna do better and actually put actions into doing better.

@crue-xx

9 ай бұрын

Your view is scewed by your lust for revenge and violence. People like you are the reason policies are so wrong.

I'm shocked and upset by most people's answers here...

@jermaarj

Жыл бұрын

Same some answers were stupid

@laurahill5732

Жыл бұрын

Right? Death penalty all the way

@TREVASLARK

Ай бұрын

Explain why.

I watched a video of a killer telling a judge that if they let him out he would do it again. There are some people that can NOT be helped.

last statement hit deep

I don't think the question is "Is the Death Penalty right or wrong". The question should be, "Is the Death Penalty justified and if so, in what instance?" That would open up a wider conversation. I feel some of the people answering are just saying "it's not right" because it's such a narrow question - they have more to say. Also, even if we do not have "the right" to take others' life away - how do you address someone forcefully taking someone else's life? A criminal deserves to still be treated like a person no matter how shitty they are? Try saying that to the victim. Oh wait, they're DEAD.

@lawtraf8008

Жыл бұрын

I'm against the death penalty but just because it's too easy

@mangodaguiotango

Жыл бұрын

@@lawtraf8008 Too easy? As far as I know, people spend years on death row and sometimes die in death row without being given the lethal injection. I'm not sure how it's exactly, "too easy." Some would argue the death penalty should be done immediately but our system prevents that - it actually gives time for the inmate to appeal and in some cases, overturn the verdict due to newfound evidence.

@lnvr

Жыл бұрын

If there is even the smallest chance that an innocent person can be killed (and there always will be), the death penalty cannot be justified.

@mangodaguiotango

Жыл бұрын

@@lnvr If we applied this logic of what ifs to every situation in our lives...we'd be at a standstill. It's like saying, "if there is even the smallest chance I could get hit while walking on the sideway, I can't justify using the sidewalk over the walking on the road." Sounds dumb, right? That's because it is. We can't live in a world of what ifs and never taking action to find out the answer. At some point someone will have to weight the risks and make a decision. But you see, your statement is just as bad as the "right or wrong" answer because it stops any kind of dialogue. Lastly, you may think it can't be justified but I can guarantee you that there is someone out there who feels the exact opposite. As such, the dialogue goes on - in what instance is the death penalty justified? For you, none. Thanks for your input.

@lnvr

Жыл бұрын

@@mangodaguiotango When it comes to the intentional killings of criminals, the risks that come with it outweigh the benefits by a lot. The possible death of innocents should be incentive enough to remove the death penalty but there are so many more reasons. There is so much evidence to show that the death penalty is not a deterrent for crime so the argument of reducing crime rates doesn’t work. The majority of people on death row are of minority ethnic backgrounds, which shows how corrupt the justice system is. It actually costs more to put someone on death row than to imprison them for life so the argument of it taking away people’s tax money isn’t valid as well. And if you want to go into the emotional reasons, because of the long drawn out process of the death penalty, it does not provide closure for the victim’s families, at least for a very long time. I could go into these reasons with more detail but this is a YT comments section and there’s plenty of research and evidence available online that back up every single reason I’ve given. I can’t think of a single valid benefit of the death penalty still existing that holds a candle to any of the reasons I’ve given. It’s an outdated practice that should have been removed a long time ago.

I feel like the questions were biased against the people who were against the death penalty. They didn’t ask people who were for it about whether people could be rehabilitated, issues with the system, etc., but they asked people who were against it further questions (“what if it was a family member”, “what if you know they did it”, etc.)

i love cut

For this topic just one quote comes to mind "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."- Gandhi

@ahopp3629

Жыл бұрын

Life without parole is better than the death penalty

Lots of folks live in this idyllic world where everyone can just sing kumbaya and everyone is deep down inherently good. That is until their lives are touched by a monster who takes pleasure in doing the most inhumane acts to your loved ones.

@Whirlbee

Жыл бұрын

I'm a survivor of many things, I have friends who are also survivors - I am 100% against the dealth penalty.

I think it's morally ok, but not practically. There's always the chance you've got the wrong person

Ahhh I'm so happy to early🎉😂! Love y'all

The last person was so influential.

Let poncho cook

What she said at 7:22 on this video , it’s right if it’s crystal clear !!! Absolutely. If all evidence is not there why would you take a life ? It’s either for whichever departments sake or for the public and the news

4:51 I love her voice

oh man my heart sank at the mention of Damien Echols. haven't heard his name in years, but it's such an important story, the West Memphis 3. god help us

Death penalty is nothing but sick satisfaction for the people participating and the victims affected by the crimes that the “criminal” may or may not have committed. If they didn’t I guess all we can say is “oops! Well we’ll try to be better next time

@Goobagoo

Жыл бұрын

You say this because you haven't experienced the cold dry asshole that is the world. When a 3 year old gets raped, mutilated, and raped again once there body is cold, would you not say the perpetrator deservers the death penalty? Do you think they deserve the chance to become better? Describe "sick" for me would you? I'd just show you a picture of a death row inmate. Humans have brains, we also have the ability to make decisions.

i would recommend tortures of middle age instruments for some cases

All these people thinking “what am I supposed to say?”

Definitely yes. Some people just don't deserve to live.

let pancho cook

“firing squad, *ducaducaducaduca*” LMAO

Funny to see old coworkers in KZread videos :)

Deep question but liked the perspectives

Let pancho cook

You are just trading one wrong for a lesser wrong thats the best way I can put it

Lmao that one girl who's two thumbs up for the death penalty ☺️👍👍 Never seen someone so enthusiastic of something so horrible.

@nguvu4838

Жыл бұрын

Some people really do not like heinous criminals, and for good reason.

@juanmanikings

7 ай бұрын

@@nguvu4838 you say this as if killing those people will bring justice to the victims this american mentality of revenge is so misguided

Commenting on this again since it showed up in my notifications: notice how some of these folks are quick to say "KILLING IS NOT RIGHT. NO KILLING IN ANY SITUATION!" 'What about in the case of self-defense?" "Oh...I didn't think of that..." Too many people think about the death penalty as black and white when it clearly isn't. Likewise, too many people think it's wrong because of the chance of the "uncertainty" yet fail to think about the victim and their family. Ultimately, you won't know for sure if you're really for or against the death penalty until you're the who has lost someone you loved dearly and you're staring at the killer in the eyes. It's like that trick with flipping a coin - you don't know what you really want until the moment that coin is flipping in the air...then suddenly it's all so clear.

Damn the last one was pretty emotional ngl.

Let Pancho Cook

It'll be interesting to see this in another country and see that different perspectives other than the one in USA.

There's really no easy answer to this question

2:36 worded it in a way that brings up a different thought for me. I’m curious to know what we can learn about these people psychologically if kept incarcerated for their lifetime. Possibly things that could prevent offenses in the future. Something that you wouldn’t get the opportunity to do if they are just “off’d”. I don’t care about giving them a “second chance” tbh lol I just wanna use em for science (in an ethical way)

"what is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - paarthurnax The last one made me think of this.

I'm surprised by this. As someone who grew up with several friends who suffered SA their ENTIRE childhoods, I know there are a very small % of the population who fundamentally cannot be rehabilitated. I think that in the vast majority of cases people in the judicial system can and should be rehabilitated, and that the current system does a poor job at it. Unfortunately there are some people who are fundamentally broken in a way that can't be fixed. It's not about making them pay, or making them suffer. I view it in the same way as putting down an animal with rabies, if something can't be rehabilitated or cured, it is more ethical to cull them than to torture them for the rest of their lives. Specifically I'm talking about the maybe top 1% of worst offenders with absolute evidence proving they were guilty. Serial killers, violent repeat sex offenders, etc.

@Crankhy

Жыл бұрын

It's really hard to speak up for sex offenders, because everybody will accuse somebody of being one. But I read a lot about criminal justice and rehabilitation and so on, and I do believe that a lot of them can change. Even if I think of my own abusers, i think they are capable of change.

I think the death penalty should only be used on those who commit the worst of worst crimes. It’s not like everyone in jail is going to get the death penalty, it should only be used for those who commit the worst crimes. But then again, I know there have been innocent people who have been wrongly executed, which makes me not support the death penalty. If I’m being honest I’m in the middle. I can see both sides and think that both have very good points.

@501Labs

Жыл бұрын

Who is it that you think currently gets the death penalty exactly? lol Petty thieves? lmao

@gyosob7265

Жыл бұрын

how do you define the worst of the worst? it's subjective, and that's one of the core problems

@dontpanic5278

Жыл бұрын

I think it would be better to just lock them up indefinitely. You get a very similar effect: people will no longer be affected by the criminal and they receive permanent punishment for what they've done.

@DivaGabbyGirl

Жыл бұрын

@@501Labs I never said petty thieves, that’s what I meant by not everyone going to jail will get the death penalty. I don’t think everyone who goes to jail deserves the death penalty I think people can change. I meant those who take another life, those who kidnap, those who rape, pedophiles. Petty crimes don’t deserve such a harsh consequence, but I do think the crimes I listed above are the worst of the worst.

@DivaGabbyGirl

Жыл бұрын

@@gyosob7265 I totally agree, everyone has their own view. I don’t think petty crimes should get the death penalty such as stealing, robbery, etc. but I mean crimes such as murder, kidnapping, etc those kinds, are some of the most harsh crimes

I think it has it's place in our justice system. Although I also believe if we're looking for punishments for the worst crimes, it would depend on the criminal. Some people would rather die than face life in prison. In which case they shouldn't get what they want.

@samuelkalen2971

Жыл бұрын

I understand the economic reasons for it, but if you want to make people suffer for their crimes then solitary confinement just seems so much worse, and therefore better in my opinion.

Off topic but at 7:00 minutes there’s a red head with a black bedazzled top… she is absolutely stunning, just wow!

The blond lady in purple is spot on (2:35)

I wanna be on CUT so bad 😂