I adore the fact that that author of “Who Censored Roger Rabbit” loved the movie so much that he retconned his own book as a bad dream.

@johnsensebe3153

Жыл бұрын

I think it was more due to the fact that the movie was a tremendous hit and his book wasn't, so he went where the money was.

@allighast9714

Жыл бұрын

I looked up who fucked Roger rabbit and just got porn, idk what I exp xted

@iand4374

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsensebe3153 its probably both

@treborkroy5280

Жыл бұрын

One of most cherished items is a signed book by him my brother bought me.

@KaneRobot

Жыл бұрын

The book is definitely worth a read though. I think I hated every character in the book besides Eddie by the end, and I don't mean that in a bad way at all.

Kudos to them mentioning Jessica Rabbit and "Rack Focus" in the same sentence without making the obvious joke.

@Endocrom

Жыл бұрын

Huh?... OOOOOH! Nice.

@rxstarscream

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic.

@alfias7316

Жыл бұрын

I dont get it..

@3coldcapricorn227

Жыл бұрын

@@alfias7316 godbless you

@jubeaumont6305

Жыл бұрын

@@alfias7316 >profile pic Everything checks out

The "dropped a piano on his head" line is so great because it's such a classic Chuck Jones cartoon gag, but actually doing that to a real human being would be unspeakably horrible.

@normalgraham

3 ай бұрын

I won't even subject you to the horrors of our 3 Stooges ward

In regards to 'the dip': during the early animation years (30s-50s), as a cost saving measure, Disney, Warner Bros. and their contemporaries used to reuse the animation cels from finished productions by scraping off the artwork and giving them 'the dip' to clean off the cel so it could be used for a new production (since every frame of animation required its own cel). It isn't just some crazy idea made for the film, its based on a niche part of animation history!

@KairuHakubi

Жыл бұрын

oh maaan. imagine wiping the classic cels like that.. all just to save on celluloid. they had no idea how much those were gonna sell for later.

@mxbravo3108

Жыл бұрын

@RedLetterMedia Pin this comment already!

@emmy8526

Жыл бұрын

That’s amazing!

@sparda9060

Жыл бұрын

@@KairuHakubi Yeah but they needed the money then, they not going to wait 50+ years lol

@KairuHakubi

Жыл бұрын

@@sparda9060 people live a long time, gotta plan for the future.

I appreciate the extra effort of hand-drawing Rich Evans into this episode. So much better than the CGI version from the Star Trek: Picard reviews.

@homestuck_official

Жыл бұрын

You guys will say anything about this poor man

@somethingsomething8511

Жыл бұрын

He's still got those dead eyes though. They creep me out

@FrankDuffner

Жыл бұрын

I didn't really buy it as the shots were all static and he wasn't interacting much with any real world objects.

@Lemon_Inspector

Жыл бұрын

Not interacting with the real world is just part of Rich Evans's tragic character.

@timberinternational2377

Жыл бұрын

@@somethingsomething8511 Black, like a dolls eyes.

A true classic. I hope Rich will not someday laugh himself to death, like one of the weasels.

@thepickles8833

Жыл бұрын

If he provides the footage of him trying to keep his angelic ghost from flying away, we will animate it

@Avatar_of_Chairness

Жыл бұрын

Mike would be doing his Palpatine laugh

@gabbyprincip1575

Жыл бұрын

@@BRBMrSoul Bold to asume Mike still has a soul

@aaronsarchive82

Жыл бұрын

Rich's laugh is the stuff of angels.

@hennaoctopus

Жыл бұрын

Wish i could like this comment more than once

It's a real shame they didn't mention Richard Williams, the animation director. They credit Robert Zemeckis for moving the camera but in the beginning he was told any scenes with animation had to be a static shot. When Zemeckis asked Williams about this, Williams told him "you were told that because the animators are lazy," he went on to tell Zemeckis to film it like he would any movie and they'll animate with it because their job was creating movement. So it should be Richard getting the credit. There's also a story Andreas Deja (animator on Roger Rabbit and the animator of Scar, Gaston abd more) tells about working on a shot he thought was static but after Roger was moving out of place slightly, he had an assistant take the background prints and track a wooden beam in the shot. They took the tracked paper (simple traced pencil line) held it to a window and sure enough, the line was jittering. It was a hand held camera he needed to animate with. He found a cheat that is used in programs today. He tracked a object in the scene, moving the paper so it always lined up with it. Punched the paper so the traced line stayed in one place. Then he'd animate on what in the end looked like an unstraightened stack of paper, but once lined up, the rabbit would jitter along with the camera.

@cyber_person

Жыл бұрын

That’s a amazing solution; real genius move by the artists

@damenwhelan3236

10 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@Chernobog34

10 ай бұрын

We can also thank Richard Williams for Jessica Rabbit, and his never ending war on the female waistline. Seriously, he's a genius of an animator, but the man could not draw more than a 1cm wide waistline for women.

@TRUTHANDCONSEQUENCESWILLNEVER

9 ай бұрын

Zemeckis asked about this because he was planning not to, it was a lot of work for him too so its not wrong per say to say they both made this decision, he was told it was _possible_ by Williams, Zemeckis still had to direct and make a lot of other decisions around this. Static shot is easier for the director too you know

@MCHellshit

6 ай бұрын

Bruh Jessica Rabbit is a cartoon character married to a rabbit. Its not meant to look realistic at all@@Chernobog34

“No, not at any time. Only when it was funny.” It sets the basic rules of human/toon interaction. It explains why Roger doesn’t go 100 ft tall and takes the city hostage. It states the “anything for a joke” nature of the very medium of early cartoons. It’s a perfect line.

@BassLineProductionsI

2 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@martyjehovah

Ай бұрын

I wonder if this line is the origination of the concept of "toon force", or if the line is describing an existing writing rule known to animation pros. I mean, the writers for bugs bunny (for example) certainly KNEW he could do anything they wrote for him, but it would only make it to production if it was funny, but were they conscious of it as a pseudo law of physics?

"bump the lamp" is actually a term in traditional animation that basically means going above and beyond in ways that only a small part of the audience will actually notice. This movie is iconic

I saw one person say something like "if Roger Rabbit is a love letter to the golden age of animation, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers is a death threat to the animation industry," and I think that's very accurate, not even in a bad way. Maybe in a little bit of a bad way, but only a little.

@Malygosblues

Жыл бұрын

Ah, I see you're a watcher of TeamFourStar as well

@themarkktv

Жыл бұрын

And Ready Player One was a dick pic sent to every IP available

@loziclec.1295

Жыл бұрын

@@Malygosblues Was it them? I heard it second-hand.

@alvarodiazrodriguez2603

Жыл бұрын

@@Malygosblues link to it?

@DarkWizard83

Жыл бұрын

To me, the Chip N' Dale movie represents the worst aspects of modern pop culture and movie making - everything is meta, nothing is played straight, and actual humor and storytelling has been replaced with references that tricks audiences in to thinking they're watching something enjoyable because they go "OMG THIS IS A THING THAT I KNOW!!!!"

R.I.P. to the most adorable cartoon shoe in cinema history 😢

@just_somebody_on_the_internet

Жыл бұрын

😭

@ixtiander999

Жыл бұрын

he was just trying to be friendly :(

@dennissullivan6700

Жыл бұрын

That scene ruins the movie. The entire thing is obnoxious and mean spirited in a way classic WB cartoons never were, but that cold blooded murder was pointless edginess.

@MelancoliaI

Жыл бұрын

@@dennissullivan6700 Agreed...it makes me freaking sick every time I watch it. I genuinely loathe that scene, putrid and unnecessary. And you're right, for all the violence, the old school WB cartoons never had anything so awful.

@realbartsimpson

Жыл бұрын

Hated that scene as a kid and always skipped it.

As a kid, that entire climactic sequence with Christopher Lloyd was absolutely terrifying

@EUROPAMusicOfficialChannel

Жыл бұрын

Pure horror. Oh the nightmares I had from that...

@damianstack8460

2 ай бұрын

100%!!

One of my favorite little incidental scene, Richard Williams talks about it in his famous book (The Animator's Survival Kit). Bob Hoskins was apparently amazing at acting at nothing. He was able to fully focus on the cartoon characters he couldn't see, while the other actors sort of seemed like they were looking past them. Hoskins could look Roger dead in the eyes, and the animators worked with that great. But there was one scene where he was talking to Roger backed into a wall. Hoskins was supposed to look down at him, but instead for some reason he looked straight ahead. A rare blunder. So what did the animators do? They had Roger back into the wall stretched out and on his toes to meet with Bob's eyes. It's so genius, that you wouldn't even notice it was there to fix a mistake.

@aaronsarchive82

Жыл бұрын

I love that too. You wonder how many scenes did that in post. It was an Invisible Man movie completed later on. Let's not forget that Bob started seeing cartoon characters everywhere as a weird side effect of making this movie.

@btr3k

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was a glaring oversight that Richard Williams (RIP) isn't mentioned in this entire video (I don't think so, anyway)... but somehow Ralph Bakshi IS? Williams definitely deserves credit for the animation side of this movie. Maybe a mention of other movie intros he worked on, or the sad story of the ill-fated Thief and the Cobbler / Arabian Knight... Also, I had successfully forgotten about Cool World. Thanks a lot guys, for bringing that back into my mind!

@uknownada

Жыл бұрын

@@btr3k I don't think RedLetterMedia generally respects or cares about animation. This is like, the first time they ever talk about it, besides jokes with Looney Tunes or Simpsons, and when Rich talked about Danny Phantom, or when Mike said "taken for granite" from Rick & Morty. Anyways, they probably wouldn't know or care who Richard Williams was. Which is a shame, but that's the way it is.

@darrengordon-hill

Жыл бұрын

Beautiful. Made me smile

@syex1999

Жыл бұрын

@@uknownada The video's description reads "Rich and Jay discuss the classic 1988 film noir zany animated groundbreaking visual effects masterpiece Who Framed Roger Rabbit while somehow never once mentioning the name of animation legend Richard Williams."

Roger Rabbit's animation director Richard Williams (best known for his insane unfinished film The Thief and the Cobbler, may he rest in peace , etc. etc.) was probably the one responsible for the attention to detail with the animation. He was a notorious perfectionist and would take forever to finish stuff if left to his own devices. The scene in the prohibition room with the lamp actually inspired the term "bumping the lamp" which is used in animation and film to mean "going above and beyond expectations/requirements".

@123lorajane321

Жыл бұрын

Animation is concentration.

@GraysonAnimation

Жыл бұрын

Strongly appreciate this comment. Also aspiring animators should read his book "The Animators Survival Kit"

@Azarian

Жыл бұрын

THE BALL IS LIFE. THE BALL IS EVERYTHING. YOU WILL FUCKING LOVE THAT BOUNCING FUCKING BALL.

@carolynmain

Жыл бұрын

Yes! He wrote a/the book on animation, The Animator's Survival Kit. There are cuts of the Thief movie, recobbled is much more faithful to the artist than uh the Matthew Broderick version. Wristbreaking beauty in every cell.

@Andrew-lc3lo

Жыл бұрын

For the animation Zemeckis told Williams he wanted the look of Disney with the humour of Warner Bros, or something like that

Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a stone cold masterpiece. And you guys are right, it's so much better viewing it as adult. I played my vhs copy over and over growing up. But I notice so much more now. One thing I spotted to make Judge Doom just a tad more off as a human was his duster. Every time he is on screen it's moving ever so subtly like there's a slight breeze. Even when he is indoors! Like Plinkett says. You may not have noticed it, but your brain did. Pure brilliance!

@southernstar4353

Жыл бұрын

i still have my copy of the VHS in my parents attic. Still has the original sleeve too. that thing was probably watch 300 times easy.

Roger Rabbit is authentic. The cameos complimented the story and built the world. They weren’t treated as cameos for eye candy but as real living characters.

Storytime: Bob Hoskins' kid was angry at him after starring in this movie. Later he found out his kid told him that a dad who wouldn't introduce his kid to Bugs Bunny was a real arsehole.

It bugs me a bit that in this 50 minute discussion, Richard Williams’ name wasn’t mentioned once. Not only is he a massive part of this movie’s success and creative vision, he’s also a complete nutjob who would have made for excellent fodder for the boys. I guess chock it up to these being film buffs; not animation buffs. But still.

@shmunkyman33

Жыл бұрын

Just to be that person, it's "chalk" it up. But I totally agree, Richard Williams really was an indispensable part of that project

@dillflynn

Жыл бұрын

@@shmunkyman33 Well let me be that person, I graciously accept your correction and commit to doing better in the future

@shmunkyman33

Жыл бұрын

@@dillflynn No worries man, if you've only ever heard it out loud then it makes perfect sense to spell it that way :)

@lucamckenn5932

Жыл бұрын

Film buffs to a T. They still think cartoons are for kids. Angel Cop laughs in bloody bullets.

@bredrick.

Жыл бұрын

well i mean they acknowledge that in the description

Eddie murphy was orginally asked to play the lead in this movie.. in an interview he says it was one of the only roles he regrets not taking. But i think this was one of the times it worked out for the best since this movie is perfect in so many ways as is.

The connection between the Valliant Brother's death and Judge Doom bothered me until I noticed the subtle hints laid out. The Eddie's brother was killed by a toon robbing a Bank (a toon that is never found) which the toon then used to start the Cloverfield company and ultimately use that power to destroy toon-town. Yes, it's a bit of a coincidence that Eddie is attached to the case (although not really since he is one of, if not the only, the most famous toon-detectives) but it's not a coincidence that the the toon who killed his brother turns out to be Doom.

@Hydrogue

Жыл бұрын

Doom is also said to have "spread a bunch of samolians around Toon Town" in order to buy his way into having it under his jurisdiction. Obviously taken from that "zillion samolians" he swiped the night he killed Teddy Valiant.

@TheGoodChap

Жыл бұрын

I also love how judge doom is cartoonishly evil its so clever to make his character that way

@KairuHakubi

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it actually works great. you're wondering who this guy is, what bug he got up his butt about cartoons, and then it turns out.. nah he's just a murderer. just a guy who kills people and steals money and does shady deals to make more. After the saccharine treatment of toons as this subtly oppressed minority, it's good to see actually they can just be jerks sometimes.

This film not only saved disney from bankruptcy and the animation department from being shut down, but revitalized American animation in general.

@Nat3_H1gg3rs

Жыл бұрын

bro this movie cured cancer we just dont know it yet.

"Remember me Eddy?!!!!" Who Framed Roger Rabbit has a better story and character development than 95% of big Hollywood releases over the past 5 years.

@charlottecorday8494

Жыл бұрын

*25 years

@motherplayer

Жыл бұрын

I think the best thing about that twist is that while Doom may seem unquestionably obvious as a bad guy, who would have ever guessed he was a toon in disguise? I certainly would not have.

@thepickles8833

Жыл бұрын

@@motherplayer I also think it’s amazing that it was revealed many years later that Doom’s true identity is alluded to in Maroon’s office.

@aaronsarchive82

Жыл бұрын

"WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER??!!" You'll never forget the first time you see that.

@TheInflicted

Жыл бұрын

Plus is there anything more evil than destroying America's public transportation infrastructure in favor of endless cars?

You're absolutely right, this movie makes me miss "movie magic"

the segment of the space jam 2 rap battle genuinely filled me with rage. that movie is the real life equivalent of the anti-life equation i swear to god

I get more baffled by Roger Rabbit as time goes on. It's impressive to a point that I feel its biggest failing is that there's a 100% lack of Tom & Jerry in it.

@Grovester77

Жыл бұрын

I read somewhere there was supposed to be a scene where Tom and Jerry were in attendance at Marvin Acme's funeral, but no one could get the licensing for their involvement

@KasumiKenshirou

Жыл бұрын

@@Grovester77 Popeye was supposed to be there, too. There are storyboards out there on the internet. Some studios would only let them use a certain amount of their characters for some reason.

One of the greatest speeches in film history: "Of course not. You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night. Soon, where Toontown once stood will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food. Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful."

What KILLS me to think about as an animator is not only are all the characters hand-animated. They're hand animated ON PHYSICALS CELS WITH INK AND PAINT. The sheer monumental level of effort that went into this movie on a technical level that we never even think about is enough to keep you awake at night.

@palmereldritch_6669

10 ай бұрын

At the time is was the most expensive movie ever made. Fortunately, it paid off and gave us a classic.

The CGI Roger Rabbit test is a lot more exciting when you consider that it was made in 1998. To replicate the look of hand drawn animation they actually did animate him traditionally, and then modeled the CGI Roger frame by frame on top of the drawings so his character could still have the same squash and stretch that toons did. This process for this was so time intensive and cost prohibitive that the movie was never made. As cool as the technology was, I agree with Jay and Rich's sentiment that we do not need a sequel.

@troy2351

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that is pretty impressive for 98.

@derbeleidiger4500

9 ай бұрын

1989

Boy that Batman review must be amazing if they’re making us wait this long!

one of the most ironic moments in red letter media history is rich evans struggling to pull the word “speakeasy” out of his head, speaking very difficultly.

They originally had a much smaller budget for this film. Robert Zemeckis went back to the studio and got more money. They were originally going to go with no interactions, static camera work to make the animation easier but Zemeckis insisted on making his life harder. It paid off so hard for the studio!

@Baustakar

Жыл бұрын

Just searched for the box office - i don't know if this is true but - holy moly about 250 million $ revenue. in 1988! Good god.

there are actually newer Mickey cartoons that are great because they realize that any character who has to spend his entire life never being selfish or even mildly inconveniencing anyone would be a neurotic ball of anxiety issues, and it's hilarious

@toastedt140

Жыл бұрын

They also brought back old school jerk mickey from the older cartoons which I loved.

@Thedrunkenodyssey

Жыл бұрын

​@@toastedt140 Indeed. Mickey Mouse cartoons were awesome before his cartoons were made in color. Check out The Karnival Kid, everybody!

@spimbles

9 ай бұрын

holy shit is this why im the way i am

@oomusd

6 ай бұрын

the new shorts (produced under Paul Rushdie) of Mickey and friends, understands that and how a toony characters should be written. The characters are both hilarious and at the same time relatable. The characters are written in a way their goals and feelings are serious to them and still they are "toony" and they also knows that. Mickey is a loveable friend and also a wreck, a ball of stress, on the verge of collapsing and at time he knows and try to change :) Goofy is totally random, over the top, and because he knows that, he's thankful for his friends. Donald knows it can explode like a volcano at any minute and so on. It also succeeds in giving to Minnie a distinct personality from Mickey...

@CountOfMonteCristo_

Ай бұрын

I agree! I adore the newer Mickey Mouse cartoons, it really gives so much life and personality into all the characters, life that’s been sorely needed as of recent.

The crossovers in Who Framed Roger Rabbit were a collaboration between companies. Now it's a reminder of how many IPs megacorporations own.

@felixdaniels37

Жыл бұрын

Honestly it's one of the reasons Smash Bros. still has appeal. So many characters are third party that just imagining the red tape Nintendo had to go through just for something like Smash Ultimate to exist as all is mind boggling.

@petergriscom3431

Жыл бұрын

People criticize 80s cartoons for being glorified toy commercials, yet that's what these huge crossovers really are in essence.

@willowism

Жыл бұрын

@uNnHkP8mza fortnite is easy because it's all SO clearly a cashgrab

Bob Hoskins is literally one of the best casting decisions of all time. Disney really wanted Harrison Ford or Tom Hanks and they turned it down. Meanwhile, Bob had a bit of cultural clout thanks to The Long Good Friday and an Oscar nod for Mona Lisa, so it was a textbook case of right place, right time.

@ninjalokust

Жыл бұрын

Now imagine they replaced Bob Hoskins with Whoopi Goldberg. And Roger Rabbit with a T-rex. And now you are stuck with the knowledge that Theodore Rex is a remake of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. You are welcome.

@sethkeown5965

Жыл бұрын

had he been younger, he would have been a great wolverine.

@cullen4847

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic actor. Unfortunately for Bob, he also took the Super Mario Brothers gig. I can't imagine taking that role even if you WANTED to ruin your career.

@strawberrylotlizard

Жыл бұрын

@@cullen4847 alcohol fam

@aexcezz9573

Жыл бұрын

True, but now I really would have loved to see Harrison Ford in that role.

I feel like the Daffy and Donald on piano scene might have been inspired by Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keatons pianist and violinist scene in Limelight. Two comedy rivals trying to out do each other on stage

Jay has one of the best, most consistent hair-cuts I have ever seen.

My favorite scene is when Eddie finally goes to Toontown, and it's got this huge serious dramatic build-up, with the super scary music in the tunnel, and he's clearly terrified, on edge, pouring sweat, psyching himself up for it... And then the red curtain opens into a Disney vault acid trip musical where the sun is shining, all the old cartoons are running around, every inanimate object is smiling and singing; the sudden shift in tone never fails to make me laugh.

@Imgema

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that tunnel scene especially, with the dramatic music... So good.

@corruptofficial8638

Жыл бұрын

"Smile, darn ya, smile!"

@danbam3411

Жыл бұрын

You know, not a lot of people give the movie credit for that particular moment. To me, that scene was just as groundbreaking as Judy Garland stepping out into the colorful world of Oz from her sepia toned Kansas home.

@MichaelPlatson

Жыл бұрын

That scene was a massive payoff for how hard it was built up throughout the movie. It's horrifying really, to go from a world where the tree you carve your initials in is just a tree to a world where that tree has a face, a name, a personality and probably a wife and a grove of saplings at home.

@Lewbie

Жыл бұрын

Love that shift also but in a completely opposite way, for some reason that always made me feel uneasy. It gave me a disturbed feeling.

In case anyone doesn't already know this, a "cattle call" is how producers refer to the process of casting featured extras and other bit parts open to public audition.

@askthepizzaguy

Жыл бұрын

I remember it was a legit movie thing that had zero to do with cows. But couldn't remember exactly what, thanks.

The guys have to do a re:View of 'Brazil' from 1985. That movie fits this show perfectly!

Who framed Roger rabbit is one of the most intelligent family films I've ever had the pleasure of watching. It's witty, moving, exciting, funny as hell, timeless, it can be rewatched many times, and it isn't so complicated that children can't follow the story or too simple that adults feel like they're watching a kiddies film. The sad part is that this kind of a movie would be impossible nowadays...

@All4Tanuki

7 ай бұрын

Did you see The Last Wish? Very different tonally, but there are still great animated family movies that everybody can enjoy.

@ShawnBettasso-rn9kk

2 ай бұрын

I like this movie and I seen it when I was little and it's my favorite movie from my childhood and it's a good movie but not funny about this movie and it's still a good movie but not funny about this movie and do you agree with me about what I say

Judge Doom being the toon that killed Eddie's brother is not a conincidence. It's very baked into the plot. The money he stole from the robbery where he killed the brother, he used to buy up all the land in toon town, to facilitate the entire scam. There's a throughline for the entire thing in the story. It's insane how good the script is. I also love the little touch of the poster of pistol packing possum when RK Maroon dies. The shot of the gun matches the gun on the poster, and the eyes of the possum basically give away who he really is. It's a really great bit.

@furtim1

Жыл бұрын

I understand and knew the connection when Rich said it, but I think I see what Rich meant. It had to be Doom that stole the money and killed anyone that followed him, but it didn't have to be Eddie Valiant that hunted Doom. That said, I think he is wrong. I think it is just tight story telling.

@happytrails151

Жыл бұрын

Was the money angle from the robbery mentioned in the movie or was that in the later comics?

@MrNside

Жыл бұрын

@@furtim1 Eddie had a reputation among toons, which is why Roger went to him in the first place. It's all connected as well as it can be in a movie, especially one like this where most of the time the plot and continuity take a backseat to the gags. Rich sometimes misses a lot of stuff in movies, just watch the "Joker" HitB. He missed the entire civil unrest subplot happening throughout the movie. Edit: I was reminded that it was Jay who missed the subplot in Joker. My Bad. The rest still stands.

@Weazel1

Жыл бұрын

Holy crap, I never noticed the poster before. The fact they hid Dooms identity in a "background" image blows my mind. They even mention in the end of the film "Gee, I wonder who he was?" and as an audience member, that never gets answered unless you pay close attention early on.

@DrFaustisDead

Жыл бұрын

@@happytrails151 When Eddie tells Rodger the story of his brothers murder he mentions the robbery. When Eddie's friend from the LAPD let's him on the Acme murder scene he mentions that Doom bought the election to become Judge of Toontown.

Jay is such an attention to detail person, how did he miss on the desk that Eddie and his brother were acrobats, there is a photo of them as kids with their family. So him doing the backflips and such is explained through subtly

@loopholesloopy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah isn't there a bit about their father working in the circus? He has a background in silly theatrics that ties them well into toons.

@cybelli80

Жыл бұрын

Because he’s old and has dementia

@h.a.9880

Жыл бұрын

I think it's kinda part of his character, that he used to be a super fun and easy-going type until his brother was murdered? I thought the woman in the bar makes such a remark...

@thecluckingassassin

Жыл бұрын

Did they work as clowns before they were cops?

@charlesward8632

Жыл бұрын

Unless you're talking about a different part, I believe Jay's issue wasn't that Eddie was jumping around, it was specifically when he jumps too high on the pogo stick and gets his head stuck in the lamp and cartoonishly gets electrocuted.

Actually, over the last decade, we've had a bunch of really excellent Mickey Mouse animated shorts by Paul Rudish. They're actually pretty good, and some of them are actually really funny! It honestly warms my heart a little that some kids today will grow up remembering quality mickey cartoons from their childhood.

@All4Tanuki

7 ай бұрын

Cultural stagnation

I graduated high school in 88 my dad and I were hanging out, kinda for the last time really, and we went to see this movie. My dad and I LOVE old 30's/40's Warner Bros. cartoons and we laughed like hell during this show. It was the last movie dad and I went to see, he is 82 now and suffering dementia, but he still loves WB cartoons from the Golden Age, and I will always remember seeing WFRR with him.. Thanks, Roger.

I'm glad Who Framed Roger Rabbit never got a sequel. It's perfect on it's own.

@claymathewselevator8121

Жыл бұрын

It’s like The Nightmare Before Christmas and The Iron Giant better because it never got a sequel

@richarddecredico6098

Жыл бұрын

It's the third and final film in the Chinatown trilogy

This is actually where the term "bumping the lamp" came from: when an artist/animator/team goes above and beyond and delivers something ridiculously amazing.

@troy2351

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the animators brag about working on that scene

@buildings_and_food

Жыл бұрын

I have never heard that term anywhere in my life but am sure as hell going to start using it as often as possible

@alexsilva28

Жыл бұрын

Never heard it before. That's awesome

I watched this movie so many times as a kid and Christopher Lloyd's character was always the most horrifying and terrifying! The eyes and his melting just so scary! I don't think I've seen it as an adult so I'll definitely need to watch it again.

@allp84

Жыл бұрын

Remember me edddieeee Always brings chills down my spine

@st0rmforce

Жыл бұрын

One little thing I never picked up on when I was a kid, was that after the judge got dipped, they pointed out that it was a rubber mask. So you never actually see what the toon underneath looked like.

@claymathewselevator8121

Жыл бұрын

@@st0rmforce it’s implied he’s the hunter who shot Bambi

@st0rmforce

Жыл бұрын

@@claymathewselevator8121 Not in the film. It was an idea that was dropped and never made it into the final script.

@TheCOZ

Жыл бұрын

For me it was the voice that made it frightening.

The french dub can be seen as one step more "meta", the voice actor voicing Roger is the usual french voice actor for Michael J. Fox. So we have a loony Marty against an evil Doc Brown in another Zemeckis movie - sort of.

My head cannon on why Mickey Mouse is more characteristically "cartoony" in this movie is because much like Disney he's a legit psychopath who will perform whatever role he needs to on camera to make money, but in real life he's soulless and inflicts suffering wherever he can.

@darrengordon-hill

Жыл бұрын

AMEN

@shinote4

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was established with baby Herman in the first scene that a toon's real personality could be completely different from his performance while working.

@DarkAcolyteNZ

Жыл бұрын

That's the south park canon

It’s one of those movies you look at and say “Nobody in the filmmaking industry has the time, money, or drive to make anything like this ever again.”

I'm so glad they mentioned Cool World. I have the biggest love-hate relationship with that film. Like, the dark cartoonish architecture of the buildings were AMAZING. So many shots of this movie belong to a much better story. But it just kinda dissolves into nothingness in the end and kinda breaks a lot of its own rules like they just kinda gave up lmao

@gmann6269

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's one of those high concept films that has interesting little bits in it but sucks overall. Like it's funny at the end when pre-superstar Brad Pitt turns into a goofy-looking cartoon version of himself.

@UglyKenHart

Жыл бұрын

The best story about Cool World is that it was originally meant to be a much darker and R-rated, but when Kim Basinger came on board, she and the studio wanted to take enough edge out of it so it could be a PG film. Apparently midway through production Basinger told Ralph Bakshi that she wanted to be able to show the movie to sick kids in hospitals.

Christopher Lloyd’s scene at the end of the movie was genuinely the most terrifying thing I’d ever seen as a child

This is the last movie (or one of) that my grandma, Lorraine Davis, worked on when she was in the animation dept. at Disney, so it warms my heart to hear the boys hold such a special movie to my personal childhood in high esteem. This movie had heart.

@bessithor1571

Жыл бұрын

Wow, any behind the scenes deets you could share? 🥺

@gevaliaamalia6350

Жыл бұрын

✨ Animators are truly the unsung heroes of Hollywood ✨ I often think of them when I see hand drawn animated movies - the skill and talent is amazing to me. Hats off to your grandma and all artists in the animation profession through the ages. 🌹

@sneakyking

Жыл бұрын

That's cool

@drewg4261

Жыл бұрын

Seriously? That is so neat

@jenelaina5665

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome. Respect.

I always felt that Goofy and Donald were way more likeable because they're flawed, and Mickey's sanitized corporate logo status kept writers from really doing anything interesting with him at all. My generation knows him as the mindlessly smiling Disney World logo, and the younger generation think of him as a CGI toddler character.

@pokcow01

Жыл бұрын

"Mickey Mouse Shorts" fixes the blandness in ways that I'm surprised they were allowed to do, but it should not have taken 90 years to make him entertaining.

@KasumiKenshirou

Жыл бұрын

You're right; Mickey actually was sanitized. At some point (this was when Walt Disney was still alive) he became the corporate logo and they restricted what Mickey was allowed to do. All the "bad" stuff he used to be able to do was reassigned to Donald. The same thing happened to Popeye. He became popular with children so he was toned down, and they introduced Popeye's dad to do all the stuff Popeye used to do that would be a bad influence on kids. (Popeye could still fight, though. They didn't go too nuts toning him down.)

@SaiyanShoto

Жыл бұрын

The new Mickey Mouse cartoons definitely fix that. I’ll even argue 2000’s Mickey stuff like House of Mouse fixed that too

@JDelwynn

Жыл бұрын

In Europe, Mickey is nothing but a logo, but Donald Duck is huge. Like really huge, the Donald Duck comic books released weekly for almost 60 years and Carl Barks and Don Rosa are legends here.

@swanpride

Жыл бұрын

Mickey Mouse was always my favourite, because I don't really like stupid characters as a rule (and while Goofy is likable, he is pretty stupid), and Donald's temper put me off. Thus said, the Mickey I had most contact with as a child was the version from the early shorts (in which Mickey still had his own misadventures instead of always being forced to pay the straight man to the other two) and the Lustige Taschenbücher, in which Mickey was a smart detective (and I LIKE smart characters as a general rule). I was very glad though that in the more recent cartoons Mickey has been allowed to have more misadventures again. And naturally House of Mouse did a great job playing with Mickey's "perfect guy" image.

I can imagine Mike standing behind Jay in the editing room. Mike intensely watching every keystroke until Jay clarifies his "Space Jam" catchphrase.

17:51 Rich Evans being familiair with r34 confirms once again that he's hip with what the youth are into these days.

“Mickey would never do something funny” is such a perfect summation.

who framed roger rabbit pretty much reinvigorated the american animation industry - it triggered not only all the disney afternoon shows, but also stuff like nickelodeon shows, warner animation like tiny toon adventures and animaniacs, and also a renewed interest in the history of american animation, all the way back to the really old stuff. it also very likely inspired the next thirty years of children to become animators and artists who grew up to make all the more modern shows. it's a really impressive work technically, but it's had a serious cultural impact as well.

@btr3k

Жыл бұрын

Let's also not forget that Disneyland built an entire new section "Toontown" which was inspired by the movie - that's a pretty big pull.

@mongoose1billion

Жыл бұрын

Just look at how stiff 80's cartoons were compared to 90's cartoons.

@aarondavis8943

Жыл бұрын

I was so glad to hear Jay elevate the genius of Warner Bros Looney Tunes above Disney. Bugs Bunny and Daffy and co made me laugh so many times as a child and adult and brought me so much joy. But even as a child, Disney cartoons made me want to puke with their sickly sweet sentiment. Disney was technically brilliant but utterly uninteresting as far as entertainment goes. It's easy to see the Loony Tunes inspiration behind early Spongebob and even The Simpsons and I'd bet the artists behind such works were avid Loony Tunes fans.

@btr3k

Жыл бұрын

@@aarondavis8943 Same here - everyone felt this way, right? As a kid I didn’t really know anything about Humphrey Bogart, Peter Lorre, etc but when their caricatures appeared, I still knew it was creative and funny. It shows the timeless nature of these shorts. I’d put the black and white Fleischer cartoons in the same category.

@Imgema

Жыл бұрын

Donald Duck is the only good thing Disney made. And the Scroodge McDuck comics by Carl.Barks and Don Rosa.

I helped interview Charles Fleischer at a comic convention in CT. I was the cameraman for my Buddy's coverage of the con and we met Charles and attempted to do an interview with him. It was planned and not meant as a gotcha, we had done research and wanted to ask him questions about Roger Rabbit specifically. The interview was going well for a few minutes and he was very well spoken and friendly. Suddenly Fleischer's whole demeanor changed and he turned and looked straight through the camera and into my eyes. "I know who you are...Stop it. STOP IT." Then he just clams up and points at us, backing away and leaving. Never gonna forget that, it was creepy.

@russellroberts6220

Жыл бұрын

@@Scripture-Man i chalked it up to being sleep deprived, or medicated and on a busy schedule...until I saw this video and heard that he may be more than a bit eccentric

I'm sure someone posted somewhere else in the comments, but Jay and Rich were asking if Mickey Mouse was voiced by someone known in the movie. Mickey was voiced by Wayne Allwine, who voice Mickey Mouse from 1977 until he died in 2009, so this movie definitely went all out in getting the actual voice actors to voice the various cameo characters.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit gave us the ground-breaking technology for merging animation and live-action, that allows us now to see the iconic Rich Evans come to life in these RLM videos

@lookoutforchris

Жыл бұрын

I like how they’ve evolved his animation model. He’s starting to look distinguished.

@EricLeafericson

Жыл бұрын

It's amazing how much this rendition of Rich Evans blurs the line between his current reality as a tragic and real alcoholic, and his unforgettable origins as a buffoonish cartoon character. The animation department deserves an Annie.

@lookoutforchris

Жыл бұрын

@@EricLeafericson the dedication RLM shows to put all of Rich’s beer bottles on strings is really remarkable. They could have just made it all CGI.

The Lego Movie is the only movie that's come close to being this good in terms of the novelty of mixing multiple properties together but still remembering to tell a really good story.

@charlottecorday8494

Жыл бұрын

Especially when you see how LAZY the Lego Movie 2 is.

@dajokahbaby1506

Жыл бұрын

The Lego Movie and The Lego Batman Movie were pretty much the last IP crossover movies to actually be fun, like the whole crossover aspect didn’t even happen in Lego Batman until the last act

@OliviaCLTFC

Жыл бұрын

the live action segments of the lego movie i’d even argue is one of the strongest aspects to it. they’re short and emotional without being too saccharine and will ferrell has always had the dramatic range to pull those kinds of scenes off. the way i look at it, the lego movie is a family-targeted version of stranger than fiction. same relationship with the fourth wall, same ultimate moral, same importance of sentimentality and sincerity as a filmmaking technique.

@Joe90h

Жыл бұрын

I think the Lego Movie's solid, but like the new Chip And Dale one, the message falls apart when you stop to think about who is delivering it. Disney's going to criticise nostalgic rose tinted glasses? And something connected to Lego is going to champion creativity when they've been making very deliberate model kits with not a brick out of place for decades?

@robertwild9447

Жыл бұрын

@@Joe90h I think Phil Lord and Chris Miller made the message in the lego movie work. If anything, they got away with somewhat criticizing the product they were selling in a way I don't think Lego fully realized.

Just rewatched with my wife, who’d never seen it. When Acme was killed she said, “was it the same guy who killed Eddie’s brother?” And then when Doom showed up, she said, “Is that the guy that killed Eddie’s brother?” I was like, “are you sure you’ve never seen this?” It’s just a simple story, but the effort is what made it.

I watched half of this while folding laundry and they convinced me to turn the video off and watch the entire movie just as a refresher because they made it sound so good all over again.

That Chip and Dale movie was a production nightmare: 8 years, 3 directors, two different teams of writers and a last minute re-write to replace Pluto with Peter Pan as the villain. Remnenats are still left over from the original plot of creating the “ultimate toon” using different character’s signature features like hair, mouths and accessories which made no sense in the re-write’s plot about making bootleg movies. The plot about toons being kidnapped and the Rescue Rangers trying to uncover who’s behind it actually had promise, but the rest of the movie is just slapping the audience in the face with references, then explaining those references.

@SPRidley

Жыл бұрын

Just asking, whats special about creating the "ultimate toon", becuase that seems some shit storytelling in the vein of creating the perfect dinosaur in Jurassic World. What are you accomplishing with creating the ultimate toon, who wins with that? The bootleg part may be a rewrite, but then, is a better excuse of why someone is actually kidnapping cartoons that plays well with real life happenings (just like toontown being destroyed parallels to motorways and the car mass transit los angeles got in that era). The bad guy being pluto, completely understand the reference (but then, why also not donald) but damn if it isnt harder to explain in a good manner. And i say this as someone who hates that in the movie chip and dale are kids from the 80's, just to cram some modern school kid cartoon references, instead of actually making them be 1930's kids that then worked with pluto and donald on the disney short, maybe you can make then they went into theater after that and that didnt work, until their gig in Rescue Rangers. I dont even think it would have altered too much the bootleg plot at all, its clear as movie rules go toons do not grow if its not funny for them to grow (like peter pan), just like roger can get out of handcuffs, so it makes sense they stay the same age for nearly a 100 years.

@ameddayr

Жыл бұрын

@@SPRidley sounds like toon eugenics to me, makes sense to me if you want to make the evil toons akin to Nazis. Haven't seen the movie, so I'm just guessing.

@homersimpson90210

Жыл бұрын

@@SPRidley Creating the "ultimate toon" is mostly motivation for the villain to kidnap famous toons and excuse to shove as many references into the movie as possible along with some plausible deniability for recognizable characters. But even that is lazily done in the lab, with things like Jimmy Neutron's hair being taken from one of the first google images that comes up when you search Jimmy Neutron hair. I think the kidnapping plot works, but the villain and their motivation needs to match it.

@kurowasanabe

Жыл бұрын

Peter's bit is also kind of fucked when you think about how Bobby Driscoll ended up.

@homersimpson90210

Жыл бұрын

@@kurowasanabe Very much so

There will literally never be another movie like this. Who framed Roger rabbit is a once in a lifetime opportunity for such an amazing work of art.

@nepdisc3722

Жыл бұрын

what about MONKEYBONE :^)

@alexanderbrambila8274

Жыл бұрын

@@nepdisc3722 I see you're a man of culture. I saw that movie in theaters at age 12 and I loved it. Fell in love with the cat lady

@nepdisc3722

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderbrambila8274 monkeybone is a 2/10 film, thus the :^)

@pjalne

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly the thing, it could only come about in this little window between the advent of motion controlled cameras and digital movie making. Before motion control, you couldn't have this dynamic interplay between live action and animation. And ever since digital animation/CGI and non-linear editing took over, there are so many shortcuts available to film makers that there's no way they'd be able to justify sticking to traditional cel animation all the way through. Animators still do great work today and it's never easy, but that hardheaded stylistic purity is a huge part of what makes Roger Rabbit sing (The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down).

@alexanderbrambila8274

Жыл бұрын

@@nepdisc3722 nah I'd give it atleast a 5/10. Perfect weirdo movie for a Sunday afternoon. Or a gift for that furry friend/relative

The Roger Rabbit shorts: Rollercoaster Rabbit, Trail Mix-Up, and Tummy Trouble are some of the greatest cartoons of all time. If you haven’t seen them, go see them.

My favorite line in the whole movie is right after the *horrific* scene where the shoe gets dipped in The Dip, you can hear one of the weasels say "That's one dead shoe, huh boss?"

When I was in like 7th grade Charles Fleischer had a website called monkey dog. It was an awful little geocities style thing. But there was his email address there. I told him I loved Roger rabbit and he sent a very nice response telling me about a planned sequel involving ww2 and nazis. Definitely a strange guy (why i like him) but I'll never forget that and how nice that was of him.

@paroxysm6867

Жыл бұрын

There was a real script with this plot called Roger Rabbit II: The Toon Platoon. Spielberg refused to sign onto it because how it cartoonishly depicted Nazis.

I was told that "swing the lamp" became a winged word among animators. It is supposed to mean that an animator always should try to overshoot the boundaries of animation.

@KenoshiAkai

Жыл бұрын

Yes, there were a number of hard rules that animators held to in having interactions between animated and live action characters. Fixed camera, flat lighting, characters didn't move around each other, characters didn't touch each other, the angle of the lighting never changed, etc. The creators of Who Framed Roger Rabbit made a point of breaking every one of those rules just so they could push the art as far as possible.

@geozop

Жыл бұрын

kaptainkristian made a high quality video about doing this animation the hard way, explaining the term and idea.

@sepixsound

Жыл бұрын

@@geozop ha, yes! had thought i heard it from somewhere else but i definitely picked this up from our kaptain too!

Rich Evans mentioning Beauty and the Beast a couple times makes me hope that he likes that movie as much as I do. Such a classic Disney animated movie!

u guys are definitely my comfort channel

In terms of profit, Roger Rabbit was the actual start of the Disney renaissance. It literally saved the studio (for better or for worse)

@gabrielhersey5546

Жыл бұрын

Best being the 90’s animation studios Worst being everything after that (except for Tron legacy)

@man.inblack

Жыл бұрын

​@@eleSDSU different strokes for different blokes ones man suckage is anothers particular pleasure.

@dajokahbaby1506

Жыл бұрын

@@eleSDSU I can’t imagine out of all of Robert Valley’s animated projects, someone would choose Tron Legacy over Motor City

@aaronsarchive82

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Little Mermaid gets too much credit.

Richard Williams along with Ralph Bakshi are some of the unsung heroes of animation. It’s a shame that Williams passed away before what would have arguably been his magnum opus - Thief and the Cobbler - got released

@nedhopkins2945

Жыл бұрын

One of the most heartbreaking stories in the world of animation. the assholes who gutted his masterpiece deserve a special place in toontown hell

@grover7531

Жыл бұрын

Honestly wondering if you mentioned The Thief and the Cobbler as one hell of an RLM deep cut reference.

@ariabramovsky1235

Жыл бұрын

I am glad that the thief and the cobbler has been mostly restored and released on KZread for free so that everyone can see it. I love the final confrontation between the thief and cobbler fighting over the the last golden ball and how in the end the thief for the only time in the entire film...just gives us and lets it go cause its just not worth the trouble. its a great character beat and a wonderful conclusion to his arc as this thing just determined to steal everything he can, damned the consequences.

@touristinreality1110

Жыл бұрын

Ralph Bakshi's Wizards is an amazing visual film. Silhouetteing classic movie battle scenes with psychedelic backgrounds is phenomenal. Really suggest checking it out, even if it's a very strange and weird film

@TBRP99

Жыл бұрын

@@grover7531 I think most of that drama predates a lot of fans. The channel has grown quite a bit

On the whole Cars universe and them having rebelled against humanity, I can't help but imagine Toe Mater's rampage and that cheery attitude of his.

"They had to build a platform 8 feet high for Jay to stand on so he looked normal height next to Rich, Mike, and their guests."

Rest In Peace Richard Williams, the director of animation. I know a lot of people know of his book "The Animator's Survival Kit," but I'd highly recommend it even if you have no interest in actually animating. He covers the history of animation and the industry titans that he worked with as well as a "how-to" on, well, everything. Its worth a read if you're interested in understanding how animating is actually done. "Simple to learn, hard to master" type deal.

@evilinterpol

Жыл бұрын

I picked it up by accident at my library because it’s so much better than most modern animator guides out there. Serendipity

@asyourgm

Жыл бұрын

He was chosen for Roger Rabbit specifically because he was comfortable animating "on ones" (every frame), which made it easier to match his animation to the acting.

@gurthang667

Жыл бұрын

100% this, every student at my animation college was issued a copy on the first day as required reading! Truly an inspiration

@Scribbled_Death

Жыл бұрын

The Theif and The Cobbler being his biggest legacy for better and worse, he was an absolute one man powerhouse with a mind for animation. RIP a legend

@pluckyduck11y

Жыл бұрын

Isn't The Animator's Survival Kit a series of books with a total cost of over $1000? His work is amazing and I'm sure each volume is well worth the cost, since it's basically academic textbooks by a master. I just haven't been able to justify such costs yet personally. If only the internet had come sooner, he probably would have had a popular and lucrative KZread channel where information/education is more democratized. But there are others like Jazza with popular 2D animation channels.

Just watched this with my 9yo, a week before this video was released. Still holds up so well. A bloody masterpiece.

@maxrebo8455

Жыл бұрын

The guys are right that the motion capture trilogy in the 2000s broke Zemeckis’ brain somehow. This is the same chap who made that dreadful The Witches remake.

Hands down best foreigners doing American accents are in *The Wire* , because they don't do just any default accent, they do very specific accent from Baltimore, with all minute differences from American one. They are so spot on that you can't differentiate roles played by real people from Baltimore apart from UK actors.

@danielpajor2539

Жыл бұрын

Supposedly, heavily region-specific accents are easier for foreign actors to get right, since the annunciations are easier to lean into and focus on. Southern accents and New England/New York accents are easier because there are clearly defined patterns and cadence. It's the generic American accent that's difficult to nail. That's what makes Hugh Laurie's "House" so good. He sounds like an average American, no specific accent or dialect.

@Deadhammer218

Жыл бұрын

​@@danielpajor2539 You said that " *New England* / New York accents are *easier* " and "it's the *generic American accent* that's *difficult* to nail" . I am in no shape or form an expert on this (I've lived in Poland my whole life :P) so I wanted to read about it, and on wikipedia it states: "Americans (...) from (...) *Western New England*, and Western regions of the country, are the most likely to be perceived as having *General American accents* " That goes against your statements, because it can't be easier to do New England accent than General American accent, when General American accest is mostly percieved in people speaking with New England accent :P Assuming the wikipedia article is true you have contradicted yourself. As I said, I'm no expert in this field, and if you want to contest that point from wiki article, I'm happy to hear your counter :) PS. It's a shame that we can't ask professional actor from UK to settle this matter :P PS2. I don't want to take anything away from Hugh Laurie, he was brilliant in House M.D. and recieved 2 Golden Globes and had 6 Emmys nominations and the Wire (in total, including individual awards) has... 0. And The Wire and Breaking Bad are at all times competing for the first spot among TV shows/series on IMDB. That's a travesty, because actors gave their all on that series. They were really in the projects and the story is loosely based around real people and situations. If you watched the show, there is real "Bunk" who was on the set and copied his mannerisms etc.

@APettyJ

Жыл бұрын

@@Deadhammer218 unless someone is from New England, when someone in the US refers to "New England" they are talking about the accent found in the city of Boston, the most prominent city in New England. It is a very distinct and famous accent. Boston happens to be in the eastern part of New England.

@Deadhammer218

Жыл бұрын

@@APettyJ Oooh, I didn't know that at all. I googled it and first line that popped up was "New English may refer to: Modern English.", so I went with that. If he would have written "Boston accent" I would have agreed. For me the Anglo-Irish and Scottish accents are the most difficult ones (for me the latter was harder to master, cause I remember ~10y ago being able to watch early Guy Richie movies without subtitles before I could do the same with "Trainspotting"). Thanks for clearing things up, man and have a nice day!

@Deadhammer218

Жыл бұрын

@@danielpajor2539 Sorry for reply 2 months after, but in your first message you wrote about Hugh Laurie in House "he sounds like an average American, no specific accent or dialect". I would agree about accent, but the writers are responsible for dialect. I don't know if you saw Hugh Laurie on Ellen, where they throw words/phrases that only American and Brits (respectively) would say :P Also I was always curious about House's origins I read somewhere that people (through his dialect) deduced that person using this accet and words would probably originate from mid-west part of USA. I remember a joke made by Joe Rogan about accents and the punchline was that people trying to make fun of Cali accent can only say that he speaks clear and concise. Again, as a guy from Poland, would you place House's accent origin as mid-west or Cali (If I remember correctly, there is no mention in the show where House is from)? Thanks, mate and have a nice day :)

The Fat Albert movie also has some interesting cartoons and reality interaction; with a clear break between realities, but a fuzzy break (and thus advancement) of their personalities.

One of my childhood favorites and at the same time the fuel of many of my childhood nightmares.

@AK-lg8fj

Жыл бұрын

I'll never forget Christopher Lloyd's fucked up face as long as I live

@richarddecat3417

Жыл бұрын

why would you have nightmares about jessica rabbit?

@imnotkatheryn

Жыл бұрын

same here, guy

@hoonterofhoonters6588

Жыл бұрын

I watched this at an age where my fear of the uncanny turned into morbid fascination. The Judge was great for that. It's impossible to look away.

@thepickles8833

Жыл бұрын

@@richarddecat3417 Not Jessica Rabbit, “Lena Hyena”

I hear that Jack Nicholson was actually one of the casting choices they considered for Valiant before they settled on Bob, which would *really* create some mind-bending confusion with Chinatown. I also heard that Tim Curry was one of the potentials they were looking at for casting as Judge Doom, but the producers thought that his performance would be too scary. In my mind there now lives a version of WFRR starring Jack Nicholson as the depressed alcoholic loser detective, and Tim Curry as the creepy maniacal cartoon villain in another IT-esque performance.

@tweeeeeex

Жыл бұрын

Tim Curry would've been an interesting choice, but I think Christopher Lloyd definitely brings the spook factor in his own right. He's got that creepy gaunt, pale look about him-he always reminded me of Arnold Ernst Toht from Raiders (though that's probably more because of their similar costumes and the fact that they both get melted to death).

@deejaymalta

Жыл бұрын

I love this alternate universe idea, I'd pay way too much to see it.

@09daniscool

Жыл бұрын

Interesring to note that Curry did end up getting the opportunity to deliver a solid performance as an animated villian with FernGully, only 4 years later.

@gmann6269

Жыл бұрын

@@tweeeeeex Lloyd is tall as well and this works nicely because he looms over Bob Hoskins. Whereas Curry was roughly Jack's height, probably an inch shorter. There wouldn't have been the same physicality.

@jacksoncheng3070

Жыл бұрын

Eddie Murphy said he turned down the role as well

Videos like this are the reason Redlettermedia continues to remain the best film analysis channel on youtube, point blank.

All of those post-Roger Rabbit mass crossover movies (from Ready Player One to Ralph Breaks The Internet to that Space Jam thing from last year) are basically Jay's joke summary of the Seltzer/Friedberg movies: "oh look, it's the Incredible Hulk! Oh no, he just stepped on Paris Hilton!"

The animation director Richard Williams was an amazing animator. He had a talent for making hand drawn animations that look like they're being filmed by a movie camera on a rig, not unlike how CG is handled now. The cartoons in this film are always captured at the correct perspective as the camera moves around the set.

@kjduncan1

Жыл бұрын

Richard Williams' influence on the animation industry is really difficult to emphasise. Almost every single animation student of the past 15 years has had a copy of his "Animators Survival Kit" on their desk... it's like a bible for animation. I even know high end VFX artists working on Star Wars, Marvel, etc, who all started their journey from learning to animate a bouncing ball from his book.

@APesquera

Жыл бұрын

Special mention to Dale Baer that lead (iirc) the second animation studio working on this movie.

@loadcartoons

Жыл бұрын

we know.

@jessehcreative

Жыл бұрын

I’d love a Re:View on The Recobbled Cut

@ericjohnson9623

Жыл бұрын

@@jessehcreative Considering who made it, that's probably a no, LOL. (The guy who made the Recobbled Cut, Garrett Gilchrist, used to be friends with Mike and Jay and had a big falling out with them.)

Glad to see Richard Williams getting the recognition he deserves in the comment section. Genius animator, everybody should look at his work for his unreleased magnum-opas 'The Thief and the Cobbler'. Some of the most visually stunning 2D animation ever put to screen.

@pokcow01

Жыл бұрын

"Recobbled Cut" specifically. It omits the terrible musical numbers and bad dialogue added after it was picked up for distribution, and reinserts pencil tests of scenes Richard was never able to complete.

@alexsilva28

Жыл бұрын

I will. Never even heard of it before but looks intriguing

@mawbts530

Жыл бұрын

@@pokcow01 interestingly, the guy who made that has some history with RLM. He worked on Gorilla Interrupted with Mike, Jay, and Rich.

@reikun86

Жыл бұрын

@@mawbts530 Oh really? That’s cool!

@necrosadotor

Жыл бұрын

it's truly insane

I love the mickey and bugs scene because it exemplifies their personalities and while brief is something that only could happen because two mega corps shake hands

I remember watching the making of this film and it felt like a labor of love more than anything. Plus Super Mario is the main character.

This is my favorite movie of all time, so I’ve got a few things to say… A nitpick about Rich’s nitpick: Doom being Teddy’s murderer AND the villain behind Cloverleaf isn’t a contrived coincidence. The movie states outright that Doom bought the election that made him a judge and it’s heavily implied he did so with the simoleons he stole in the heist the Brothers Valiant were trying to foil. It’s set up and paid off in the script. As Jay pointed out, the Ink and Paint Club is an allusion to a real life situation at an unfortunate point in our country’s history. Specifically, it is a reference to The Cotton Club in Harlem, and it existed more or less as he described. To my knowledge, all the recognizable voices in the movie are THE voices. Whoever was voicing those characters in official licensed works at the time, that’s who they got for Roger Rabbit. The dueling pianos scene was developed in part by Chuck Jones himself. However, he disavowed the film and talked endless trash on it until the day he died. This is because there are two recognized versions of Daffy Duck: there’s the original, wacky, off-the-wall Daffy created by Bob Clampett and there’s the self-important, indignant, “you’re dethpicable” Daffy popularized by Jones. Chuck wanted to use his version for the film but Zemeckis and the rest of the crew wanted Clampett’s Daffy, as they felt he was a better fit for the tone and period of the film. To appease Jones, they allegedly made two versions of the scene, one with each Daffy, promising to use whichever one played better. Of course, they then went ahead and used the Clampett version as they always planned and a lifelong grudge was born. As for Mickey being mean, I assume he was just smiling and playing along so Bugs wouldn’t big league him. We all no what an insufferable people pleaser that mouse is…

@willigagbob8243

Жыл бұрын

Never knew that about Jones. I agree with Zemeckis, original Daffy definitely fit the tone better, Chuck's Daffy only works when he gets to be the butt of the joke.

@chrissullivan6403

Жыл бұрын

Do you happen to know if the alternate Daffy take was ever released?

@user-kj2fj8qr9l

Жыл бұрын

Even if judge's earlier run in wasn't related to the main plot, it's still not much of a stretch if murderous mastermind toons are a rarity. A detective of all people IS going to have run ins with criminals.

@deadpanjelly2913

Жыл бұрын

There are a couple of instances in the film where the looney tunes were not Mel Blanc due to his age, The woohoo's for Daffy in the ink and paint club scene was an animator. The second was Yosemite sam, Mel recorded the lines but the audio engineers couldn't quite get it to sound right, so they had Joe Alaskey fill in. Mel Blanc apparently didn't notice it wasn't him.

@tiberseptim37

Жыл бұрын

@@deadpanjelly2913 Yeah, there's a few exceptions. For example, some of Donald's lines in the piano duel are old audio of Clarence Nash, with the rest done by Tony Anselmo, the primary voice at the time. The general rule, though, was that all the AAA voice talent was on board.

I worked for Disney for like a year. People generally like Mickey for a few reasons: -They want to give their kid something Disney themed and he’s basically what they choose every time -Tourists see him as an American icon -he’s collectible and people just collect his stuff They don’t really like him for his character- cause he doesn’t really have one

@waltermh111

Жыл бұрын

Yup, hes an icon, not a character.

@mzaite

Жыл бұрын

Mickey is just Hello Kitty. A Stand Alone "character" that's more logo than anything.

@noahs150

Жыл бұрын

I've only seen him as a full character in like Kingdom Hearts.

@violenceisfun

Жыл бұрын

@@noahs150 Weaboo hot topic Mickey Mouse is the only canon Mickey Mouse personality then.

@notme222

Жыл бұрын

Does Mickey play the "straight man" character, or not even that?

The amount of effort that went into the tiniest of details. Rewatched it today with my parents and it holds up magnificently.

I’m so glad they have never replaced the voice artist who performs Rich Evans.

When I first saw Roger Rabbit in the theater, a young girl started crying so much when Judge Doom dipped the shoe in The Dip, that her mother had to take her from the theater and they never came back. I always think about that when watching this movie and feel sorry for her. It was a strange movie to try to guess if you could bring your kids or not.

@eblatz80

Жыл бұрын

Fox and the hound! I remember going into the washroom following and sobbing and another woman trying to comfort me

@Bensonders

Жыл бұрын

Honey I shrunk the kids was the first movie I saw in the theater as a child and I cried so much when that damn Scorpion killed the Ant, but my mom was mindful enough to tell me to shut the hell up because I disturb the other viewers. So I just cried in silence like a good citizen. In retrospect it seems like that wasn't the best parenting, haha. Ah childhood, I miss you.

@ZillaTheTegu

Жыл бұрын

@@Bensonders Nooo I had completely forgotten about Anty, and you just reminded me. Damn you feelings.

@rottingcorpse6565

Жыл бұрын

I remember my sister absolutely bawling her eyes out when it seems like the old dogs not gonna make it in Homeward Bound. There's probably an argument that older kid's media was better at letting kids feel a wider range of emotions like fear and grief in a safe environment.

@ameddayr

Жыл бұрын

@@eblatz80 yes, first movie I ever cried to!

They cast Amy Irving as she was both 1) great for the role and a talented singer and 2) just so happened to be Spielberg's first wife

Avatar: Huge Box Office hit, massive budget, no cultural impact Morbius: Bombed so hard it bombed twice, massive cultural impact

@GabAssbreaker

Жыл бұрын

@uNnHkP8mza its a perfect way to summarize how predictable entertainment has become, the main character came on screen and did his thing and then he said "is x-thing time " and everyone clapped because they know what that is... VERY COOL.

This was one of your best re:Views. It felt good to see Who Framed Roger Rabbit shown some love and respect. Thank you so much!

Watching the behind-the-scenes footage, I can never tell if Charles Fleischer is legitimately insane... or if he's just fucking with everyone because he knows everyone else _thinks_ he's insane. Either way, his interviews for the movie are absolutely hilarious because he's so damn serious about it... while wearing a cartoon rabbit suit.

@FredCracklin

Жыл бұрын

There's a bit on Norm MacDonald Live (his KZread talk show) where they talk about Fleischer and Norm's sidekick Adam Eget thinks Fleischer's a bit crazy after dealing with him at his (Adam's) comedy club.

@shmunkyman33

Жыл бұрын

I think it's possible to both be clever enough to play up your craziness while also being genuinely crazy, almost like Andy Kaufman

Talking about the voice actress for Betty Boop Mae Questel, it's so funny to me that many anime voice actresses are also of a similar age as she was during the filming of this movie and they're very active. The voice actress for Goku (Masako Nozawa) for example is 85 and she still screams like a lunatic into microphones voicing those scenes.

@samworf6550

Жыл бұрын

I watched Pixar's "Turning Red" a few weeks ago and when the character Mr. Gao showed up I said to myself "wait is that James Hong" before looking it up - I was floored to discover that not only is Hong still around (he's 93) but he's still working!

@DirEnGay

Жыл бұрын

@@samworf6550 Yeah he's in "Everything Everywhere All at Once" that also came out this year which is a great film if you haven't seen it yet. He has some mild action scenes too lol...

@dimebag124

Жыл бұрын

It's too bad I hate how Goku sounds in Japanese. God bless Masako Nozawa but with her voice acting Goku he sounds like a crazy Japanese grandmother screaming while taking a hard shit. Not for me...

@AndyAnonymous

Жыл бұрын

June Foray was still working until a few years before she died in 2017; her last performances are from when she was 96 years old, when she again performed Rocky the Flying Squirrel in a short. The year before she returned (alongside a 93 year old Alan Young) to voice her DuckTales characters in the Remastered version of the video game.

@DirEnGay

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyAnonymous Legends.

As for the "Roger Rabbit" film itself: It is a shining example of why I will always cape for us 80s/90s kids growing up in the perfect pocket of media and pop culture.

The third act of this movie used to give me actual nightmares when I was a child. The wild eyes, the voice, the giant saw arm....still kinda freaks me out