Who are the next generation of ELITE managers? | Three Up Front
Since Sir Alex Ferguson left the Premier League, Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp have been the two dominant forces in English football. As Jurgen says auf wiedersehen and speculation rises around Pep’s future, the lack of an obvious successor is apparent.
In this week’s episode Simon, Graeme and Troy will be taking a look at which managers are next in line to take over from the best in the game. Whether that be up-and-coming talents like Mikel Arteta and Xabi Alonso, established veterans like Unai Emery and Thomas Tuchel or wildcards like Zinedine Zidane.
They will also explore the characteristics that define an ‘elite’ manager, whilst discussing the reputation of British coaches and their lack of success at the top end of the Premier League table.
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00:00 Start
01:00 The next generation of elite managers
05:30 Arteta / Xabi Alonso
09:34 Unai Emery / Zinedine Zidane / Tuchel
14:49 Why are British managers so far down the pecking order?
20:30 Conte / Mourinho & Aggressive management
31:00 Managers or coaches in 2024
34:37 Emery / Alonso / Zidane to make the step up?
35:58 Southgate back in club football?
Пікірлер: 278
Simon Jordan went from dissing KZreadrs to becoming a KZreadr. Life oh life!
@murzdell3087
14 күн бұрын
😁😁😁😁😁
@singhfcipswich6144
5 күн бұрын
Facts
@mpumelelobeyers957
5 күн бұрын
*GRIFTER*
@ekm3820
5 күн бұрын
Yep, Hypocrite. The way he Bashed AFTV. Smh
Troy Deeney trying to look hard claiming he was working 22 hours a day, only for it to get lost amongst a tangent 😂
Xabi Alonso would find it very difficult competing against Pep. Arteta is elite for going toe to toe with the best manager in the world
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
11 күн бұрын
No chance. Arteta's the biggest spending manager itw since being appointed. Won zilch with his own squad - average at best
@lowrider995
10 күн бұрын
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd Silly comment. The turnaround needed the spending but you still have to buy the right players and create the right culture. So many teams spent money and are nowhere near competing.
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
8 күн бұрын
@lowrider995- he's evidently not done that given the yield of 0 trophies with his own amazing squad
@lowrider995
8 күн бұрын
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd What? He evidently has turned the club into title contenders again. He's done a fantastic job. Now it's time to deliver some trophies. Still better than most other clubs in the premier league.
What Simon says at 19:23 about Arteta going to Everton is just not true at all. He has literally done that exact said thing at Arsenal, with different circumstances and financial backing of course, but still the main point stands. I don't think anyone other than Arsenal fans realise how much of rut our club was in when Emery got sacked and Arteta took over. The attendance in Emery's final game tells the story of how truly bad it was at the time. Arteta slowly had to purge out all the bad seeds at the club and has had to set foundations in slowly to completely rebuild the club. I'm not saying Arteta can go to any struggling club in the world and replicate what he's done at Arsenal, but his ultimate mission was to get us back challenging for titles again and he has done that and that itself should be highly regarded.
@user-oi4bj4cv7u
9 күн бұрын
🤦🏽♂️😂😂🤣🤣🤣 what waffle..
@user-je9ig7lr9y
2 күн бұрын
@@user-oi4bj4cv7u Good counter argument that ... What he said was 100% true. We were in the mud when he took over and he pulled us out of to challenge at the top. If you can't agree with that then you clearly don't watch anything other than your own team.
@dwaynebayes6296
Күн бұрын
Not an arsenal fan there but you are spot on, on the documentary you could see by the end he had the players fully onside. You've got a class manager there and interesting times ahead
Simon’s next interviews should be with 1- Thomas Tuchel 2- Antonio Conte 3- Arsene Wenger Let’s see how he fares in these interviews.
Big Troy always sounds like he has a cold.
@roypaul4104
27 күн бұрын
Like he's pinching his nose when talking!
@johnathanjones9785
26 күн бұрын
Needs to be on a lemsip advert
@user-pq5rj4yi3u
24 күн бұрын
Like he needs to lay off the whiff the night before
@singhfcipswich6144
5 күн бұрын
That’s what cocaine does to you
Simon Jordan is unparalleled in his role; he fearlessly asks the tough questions
@roypaul4104
27 күн бұрын
Simon the Hitman Jordan
@brono7777
27 күн бұрын
Yeah ask John Terry and bridgegate
@davidt510
26 күн бұрын
except when he's talking to John Terry... Never mentioned the Wayne Bridge situation and skirted around the Anton Ferdinand situation as well.
Best winning streak in the history of La Liga: 16 games (shared with Pep Guardiola)[326] Most consecutive away wins in the history of La Liga: 13 games[327] Manager with the lowest number of defeats after 100 games (in Spanish football): 8 losses[328] Manager with most trophies after 100 games (in Spanish football): 7 titles[329] Longest unbeaten run in Real Madrid history: 40 games[330] Longest unbeaten run in Spanish football: 40 games[330] First French manager, except the French-Argentinian Helenio Herrera, to win UEFA Champions League: 2015-16[331] Longest scoring run (all major competitions) in European football: 73 games[332] Only manager in history to win two consecutive UEFA Champions League trophies in its modern format: 2015-16, 2016-17[333] Only manager to win three consecutive European Cup/UEFA Champions League finals: 2015-16, 2016-17, 2017-18[334] Only manager in Real Madrid history to win four trophies in one season[335] Only manager in Real Madrid history to win the UEFA Super Cup twice[336] First manager to win two consecutive UEFA Super Cup titles since Arrigo Sacchi[335] Quickest manager in the history of the Top 5 Leagues to win 7 titles with a single club: 19 months[337] Quickest manager in the history of the Top 5 Leagues to win 8 titles with a single club: 23 months[338] Quickest manager in history to be named FIFA Football Coach of the Year: 653 days[337] Most The Best FIFA Football Coach awards: 3 in total[339] Only person in history to win the Onze d'Or award as a player and as a manager[340] Only person in history to win FIFA's Player of the Year award and Coach of the Year award[341] Only person in history to win the IFFHS award as the best playmaker and as a manager[342] Only person in history to win the FIFA Club World Cup trophy successively as a manager[343] Only manager in Real Madrid history to win five trophies in a calendar year[344] Only person in history to win the FIFA Club World Cup/Intercontinental Cup twice as a player and twice as a manager[345] Only person in history to be named French Player of the Year twice and French Manager of the Year twice[346] Highest score for a manager winning the IFFHS World's Best Club Coach award: 326 points[342] First manager to reach three consecutive UEFA Champions League finals since Marcello Lippi: 2015-16, 2016-17, 2017-18[
These discussions are good, keep them within an hour unlike what we're seeing elsewhere and this is easily gold
'The next city manager will succeed.' 'Why?' 'Because they've got great players.' 'Ok.' Scintillating
Love the banter great chemistry between the three guys
Another good episode 👍. I’d like to learn more about the priority process in signing new players - is talent the #1 requirement, or work ethic or mental toughness?
Great stuff guys
Brilliant, a longer episode
I think you should be setting proper parameters for "elite coach". A successful coach doesnt necessarily mean an elite one, and sometimes they do go hand in hand. Im my humble opinion i think if a coach has his team in and amongst it consistently and has a real understanding of tactics and a gameplan, and/or can adapt to more expensive opposition, and shows can consistent progression, that would fall under elite.
Fantastic show
Bring back the interviews
@bigduphusaj162
28 күн бұрын
... is a nice way of saying get rid of Deeney the wet lettuce
@luca99191
27 күн бұрын
@@bigduphusaj162 nah, I’m happy for this show to be here but they should still keep Simon’s interview. They can easily do two shows a week
@UpFrontWithSimonJordan
27 күн бұрын
Don’t worry, Up Front hasn’t gone anywhere. Stay tuned for another episode later this month.
@dootwoot
27 күн бұрын
@@UpFrontWithSimonJordan thanks but get rid of deeney and add gabby
@LHBH8
27 күн бұрын
@@dootwootWhat next, add Clinton Morrison?
My one stop shop if I want a football take on anything. A player, an owner, a manager. All angles covered. They know their onions.
@moluther2826
25 күн бұрын
They don't. Especially Simon, he's just a professional contrarian
@user-si3rc4ut8s
25 күн бұрын
@@moluther2826 with respect I disagree. When you look at the layout and the direction of travel of the pundit sector, and price in the characters that are in it, I think you’re left with a very different picture.
@L.Drizzle
25 күн бұрын
@user-si3rc4ut8s This was a phenomenal impression. Sounds so Jordan, but isn't a direct quote. Kudos to you, sir.
the stare Souness gives Simon when he takes the mick out of his managerial career is priceless
great stuff
Great set of pundits. Love Troy Deeney!!!
Simon Jordan - ELITE Graeme Souness - ELITE Troy Deeney - Championship level footballer with a permanent cold
@dootwoot
27 күн бұрын
Haha yes how have I just seen this for the first time he DOES always have a cold 😂
@mansnotbot4160
26 күн бұрын
I'm sorry, how does owning a Championship club, for the most part, make one elite. He and Troy operated at the same level in their respective fields.
@freddielizzard5467
26 күн бұрын
Deeney couldn't last more than a few weeks managing objectively the worst professional football club in the country.
@user-pm8uc5dc3e
26 күн бұрын
Columbian flu?
@Cynthia20043
26 күн бұрын
Racist
100 views in an hour.. The Troy Deeney effect.
Do more interviews....this format has been done better by others and is done to death.
These are very hard to watch. Bring back a new interview every thursday
@fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502
27 күн бұрын
Well don’t watch then.
@lawrencekingyt
27 күн бұрын
@fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502 I'm a fan of the channel I just want to see interviews come back as do many others
@philipezra8671
26 күн бұрын
Such a typical internet comment🤦♂️ I watch every week but it’s hard to watch 😂
@lawrencekingyt
26 күн бұрын
@philipezra8671 the one on one Interviews i watch every week yes they are fantastic. These 3 up fronts are hard to watch
@davidg5305
25 күн бұрын
@@lawrencekingytWhat makes them hard to watch???? I find it very easy to watch. 3 football men talking about football.... It isn't hard. An owner, A world class footballer, and a standard footballer from a slightly lower level. You've got the perfect mix for insight.
27:37 'aint got a scooby' Fair play to Troy, no hesitation!!
Great show guys
Another question is ownership and how it has changed. Clubs who’s owners have other major commitments stretches their hemispheric approach towards their club. In recruitment or commercial services and identity and politics which at times puts the clubs as a mere part of a larger scheme of events
Xabi Alonso for sure
Glasner at Palace,marriage made in heaven,Simon......
Love your show guys, keep it up! Such big opinionated personalities, something that is diminishing nowadays.
Sir Simon & Souness = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts and Troy
@GamerFrisco
27 күн бұрын
Sir LFC Spectre, Sir Simon Jordan & Graeme Souness = top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts 👌
@lfcspectre4335
27 күн бұрын
@@GamerFrisco Sir GamerFrisco = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
@sammybeck4855
27 күн бұрын
Sir GamerFrisco and Sir Spectre = Top LADS Proper Clobber
@sammybeck4855
27 күн бұрын
Sir Spectre and Sir Simon = Top LADS Proper Clobber
@lfcspectre4335
27 күн бұрын
@@sammybeck4855 Sir Sammy Beck = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
brilliant lineup owner , manager, player
Just like players managers need confidence and there is a fine line between accountability and lack of confidence by the questions put forth. I believe with the modern increase of levels of administrative personnel the management or the coach is the easiest scapegoat. Another point is there is only a handful of clubs who can win the major trophies and if one cannot manage an elite club they are evidently less likely to be an elite manager.
How do you not mention Eddie Howe when talking British Managers? The highest placed British manager the last two seasons.
I like this trio
Simon actually goes easy on "his mates" lol.
The disrespect to Eddie Howe is unreal
@Yewchewb
25 күн бұрын
Overrated relegation pro
How do you rate Brendon Roger and Big Ange guys?
I would suggest if, 3 upfront Martin O’Neil & Paul Ince
this is basically the overlap reserves team
isn't Eddie Howe a British manager in a top half team in the Premiere League....🤔
what souness says about zidane, not taking a job with at a smaller club, can be thrown at pep...... yet pep is an elite manager?
@zaidahmed9527
26 күн бұрын
Exactly...and Zidane has won la liga and 3 UCLs.... Even pep just about won 3 UCLs....
@alandunne2728
26 күн бұрын
Hypocrisy. All you'd expect from people that smell their own farts
@philipezra8671
26 күн бұрын
Pep has changed football as we know it.
@De3dSh0t
25 күн бұрын
@@zaidahmed95272 La Ligas, people forget he also coached a Madrid team in transition in the 2020 season and won all 9 cup finals throughout his time at the club. Sure he had a great team for most of his run but he also won a lot.
@zaidahmed9527
25 күн бұрын
@@De3dSh0t agreed...pundits are just rubbish these days..
unai emery - taking villa to multiple league titles and champions leagues - it's already written in the stars
Surely Howe could well come under this bracket
@Stretcharmstrong_
27 күн бұрын
Not a single mention
@ericengleby265
27 күн бұрын
@@Stretcharmstrong_ the smuggery and snobbery is farcical amongst these 🤡🤡
@user-nf4yv8xk4z
27 күн бұрын
Howe is nowhere near that level
@ericengleby265
27 күн бұрын
@@user-nf4yv8xk4z What is an Elite manager someone who has had a bottomless pit to spend like people mentioned?? Or Howe who worked miracles getting Newcastle to the Champions league with so many bang average players. Also a guy who makes players better??
@charlottecobb1823
27 күн бұрын
took bournemouth from the bottom of league 2 to the Premiership
Emery is ELITE!
22 hours a day?
What about Howe?
As if you said David Moyes is the only British manager not working at the bottom , Eddie Howe doing a great job at Newcastle
Liverpool have the business model of a transfer committee and a Director of Football !!!!!!
What’s with the breaks? There’s no adverts🤦♂️🤦♂️just looks daft
@ukbanter1907
5 күн бұрын
There is elswhere
Three Up Front drinking challenge: do a shot every time you hear the word ‘pivot’, see if you can make it to the end of the show without requiring a stomach pump.
Gary O'Neil Thomas frank are both very much capable ❤
The flaw in Souness' claim that success occurs when decisions are made by 'football people' is that he only considers the cases when the football people are successful - Wenger, Ferguson. He does not consider the times when 'football people' mismanage clubs, buy bad players and bankrupt clubs.
This group are a perfect fit … anytime I hear any of these speak, it always feels like they have a chip on their shoulder. Troy mmm maybe not as bad as them two
Graeme’s face at 9:22 😂
@user-ob4wo9po2y
27 күн бұрын
Because Jordan made a stupid comment as usual
@azdownunder
27 күн бұрын
Stupid or truthful?
How does Alonso only get a 10 second mention?
My favourite moment was when Simon Jordan thought he had a brainwave with the whole Statistics vs Facts argument. Stats are literally just a way to represent the facts. They're codependent.
Its hard for any manager in the Premier league to become elite by the standards of winning things because of thee most elite manager in pep. The most you can hope for at the minute is to get close to them.
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
8 күн бұрын
Ten Hag isn't elite yet he's won 2 trophies in 2 years
Turn the microphones off
Kieran Mckenna
Troy! Again? Fs
It’s really not working this bring back upfront with Simon jordan.
THats true the structure doesnt quite work. Arteta started aas a coach and very swiftly Arsenal made him a manager because he had to be able to call the shots
Arteta, Alonso!
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
11 күн бұрын
Why is Legohead being mentioned in the same breath as Alonso?
😂😂😂 thought this was a skit. These 3 discussing who is the next elite manager writes itself
Gary O’Neil
Up front not 3 up front. Thank you
Tuchel needs a smaller club where he can get complete control
You have to give credit to Arteta, Most of the players he has now weren't "good enough" players to help Arsenal compete, he changed that by getting rid of the so called "best players" at the time in Auba and Ozil and retaining the "not so good" players, look at them now, I say he's the model manager and Coach, am still pissed off about Ramsdale but at this point, let him(Arteta) cook.
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
8 күн бұрын
Look at them now? Zero trophies since ditching the best players
@ekm3820
5 күн бұрын
@@Contextualiser16-tn8nddelusional. I wonder what Team you support. Arsenal will eventually win trophies. They are knocking on the door. Next season they will even be better.
Who the f. Put Dyche in contention😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I suppose there is a reason why Kompany can get relegated with Burnley and land a job at Bayern, while Dyche isn’t even top 50 on such a list. Dyche at City? Come on
Who let them cookkkkkkkk🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
He’s won nothing outside of a FA cup so Arteta has won something so tells you how Simon perceives Arteta which is from a negative 🤷🏾♂️
If these views get any lower then youtube will demote them. A massive kick in the face for Jordan
Last year 'Arsenal would not challenge City again'. This year; 'Arsenal will win it next year'. Mr 'All or Nothing' Simon.
Its harder to create, then to destroy Its like when kroos is sold by real madrid, or just leaves, real madrid will not have that player that was most important in them winning all these champions leagues all this past decade, since barcelona cycle ended in 2015. Teams are more then just managers, but its upto to managers to understand how football works in terms of humans, and create a situation where there team can compete. The next city manager winning will depend on how he sees the players he has got, and can he redo them in his image of what a team is, and whether he can keep the cycle of winning going, or will it end with who ever that is. Winning cycles have many many factors, and every new generation of humans brings a new way of looking at things, and analysing based on there world view and intelligence.
Does Troy have a constant cold?
This notion that Liverpool hasn't spent money is BS, Net Spend is BS as well.. Liverpool sold Philippe Continho for like £142 million ponds so add that to their Net Spend and so their spending goes up.quite a lot and without that they probably wouldn't have got Alisson or van Dijk and prices now are different to what they were in 2015 so if you are building a team now you ae generally going to more spending that one would started building their team in 2015 and has also sold good players since too so their outgoings is good too.
Arteta is the next pep
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
11 күн бұрын
Minus the trophies
@user-oi4bj4cv7u
9 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
Simon Jordan: I think back to when I bought Crystal Palace, I look at the general overarching direction of travel in the football management sector, and the characters that make up a part of it, who for me don’t have the chops, then if you price in the development of football over the last 20 or so years, give or take, I’d take that every day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Troy Deeney: I play Watford, innit.
Troy is so dense it’s unreal - where is Oodinay?!🤦♂️
Simon really hates Eddie Howe doesnt he
Daniel Levy with Jose Mourinho or Conte too many conflicting personalitites in the same room
Moyes, Mark Hughes, Potter, Hodgson, Southgate, Lampard & Gerrard. All British managers who have fairly recently been given a chance in the biggest jobs in the country. All (to different extents) have failed. They get the chance and don’t take it.
Is Souness still going back to it? Is Simon pricing it in? Is Deeney still talking about his sentence for knicking a freddo frog? Stay tuned to find out.
Very ham
Arteta can do a job at EVERTON Pep im not so sure 👍
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
8 күн бұрын
Because Everton is Legohead's level while City/Barcelona is Pep's
Get rid of deeney and bring in KEANO then you have a mega show
@frankmcloughlin7076
25 күн бұрын
Keane wouldn't come on this, too small fry for him.....
No english manager in the top half of the table? Im sorry does eddie howe not exist anymore?
Do you think Graeme would downplay his own achievements if he’d have won what Pep and Zidane won? Not sure on his judgment he thinks there’s any elite managers there. Graeme Souness certainly wouldn’t win the league as man city manager
Emery has been around a while good cup manager not so much a league manager apart from PSG Arteta is the next Pep in my opinion iniola at a bigger club could do well Xavi Alonso will come to the premier league I think and I think he would be a great fit at Man Utd in the next 18 months 2 years it all depends on how much they have to spend and the situation at the club with the likes of O’Neil Dyche good manager but not a top 4 manager also if Man City are not on -30 points at the start of next season it’s disgusting in my opinion if they get off with the FFP case again but in my opinion Arteta is the up an coming elite manager in the premier league in my opinion I think pep will leave in the next few years once KDB Walker Stones and Silva leave they are a great team but the core of it is getting on in age
@Contextualiser16-tn8nd
8 күн бұрын
Ancelotti was more of a Cup manager until fairly recently. 5 of his 6 League titles have come after 2009
This looks like it was recorded in a dungeon. Why is everything so dark and gloomy? It looks depressing but then i listen to Deeney and realize it IS depressing.
Pep overall spend 2.2B Klopp overall spend 2.16B I prefer not to speak.
If a manager has won a domestic league title. (Not a domestic cup) and any European title in their career. They should be classed as elite. That’s a perfect metric for elite manager.
Winning trophies vs who?
Re Player power, and tail wagging the dog. - That is simply down to weak owners. If the Board, say (of the manager) "This is our Manager, we back them 100%" - Then it knee caps this sometimes toxic attitude you see at Clubs. No one is going against Klopp at Liverpool, they'd be gone. No one is going against Guardiola, or Arteta or in the past Wenger or Ferguson. The difference now, is Owners/Boards, do not back the manager.
Put some respect on Zidane's name
Its hard for Sounness despite playing at highest level dont want to give credit to Pep, he is poisonious that cant digest Pep's success, he says player, Pep made the players that run for life on the pitch and i am sure with other manager, city wont have success as much as Pep. SO atleast have a gut to digest the guy is genius, and liverpool have spent when they wanted common now, how players have rejetced City, Virgil, Maguire, De jong, De ligt, ROnaldo, Messi, Jorginho, dmmbele, and more, and look how city ended with Rodri, no body knew him, Dias, talksport Alan braxzil said who is he, benardo, people took him left right and centre for hiscelebration as he was regular player Ake, Stone, Walker totenham did not wanted him, can you belive this... Akanji, Alvarez West ham rejects... and list goes on.... ENgland does not accepts good football, only Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal have right to win , SPent and even their manager wins 2 trophies they are legend... ou guys dont have balls, if pep would have taken this success in Spain or other country he would been in golden words but look in england... if this was not about football i would never watch you guys but my football passion makes me stick to as...holes like you
A waste of 40 mins of my life! Waiting to hear about these upcoming managers. Mentioned Alonso for 5 seconds. Didn’t talk about Motta, Michel, Slot, etc. It’s obvious that these pundits only watch one league. Clueless!
@adamkoz6358
27 күн бұрын
And don’t forget the time it took to write your comment 😂
@RicoTheUnknown
27 күн бұрын
@@adamkoz6358 😂