If you found this video useful, don't forget to press the *LIKE* button. It really helps me out! Like the look of the workbench? Watch me make it here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eIx_u9mGYMmbh7g.html&t

@vasuhardeo1418

4 жыл бұрын

great vid mate , i learned a lot , many thanks.

@ronniemillsap

4 жыл бұрын

This was awesome. Do you have a video to recommend on leading us through building a desk for computer? I feel like multiple joinery types are needed. Since it will be picked up, and moved side to side? thanks!

@wesleyhendricks9375

4 жыл бұрын

What about a halflap mitered joint? Cool tutorial btw😊

@skeetorkiftwon

3 жыл бұрын

Mitered bridal scarf joint with splines. Got it.

@deedee5484

2 жыл бұрын

Mmm

Thank you. As an engineer I think your understanding is excellent. I did my final degree paper on the joining of continuous fibre composites, wood is a lignin fibre in a cellulose matrix, so I did many experiments breaking wood joints and measuring loads and deflections. Three things I learned that aren’t immediately obvious. 1. Modern glues are much more relevant to the joint than the simple geometry, the glue line can fail by fatigue but total surface area is the most important aspect of glued joints and a simple, multiple combe joint can out perform a dovetail with less pins. (Also beware that dovetailing your lap joints reduces the cross sectional area of the wood at the critical point and will probably decrease strength in a key direction) 2. Compared to a continuous horizontal bit of timber, the same cross section joined into an upright and loaded vertically will fail at a fraction of the force. A standard shouldered mortise at a little over 10%! , not actually surprising as more than 2/3 of the wood has been cut away. Wood is much stronger than most people think but the joints are usually much weaker than the wood. I got the same basic arrangement up to about 80% by design and internal steel reinforcement (beware, most people overestimate the strength of steel compared to wood as I and my lecturers continually did, expecting the wood to fail first and the steel actually did). This later proved very useful when I designed and made clarsachs (Scottish small harps) which have a combined string tension equivalent to asking 7 people to stand on your recently made product. The head joint had two 200mm x 12mm stainless steel dowels epoxy glued with a simple but joint. Other makers used a lap joint which in that situation is much stronger than a mortice. 3. Joints can fail by the crushing of grain on one piece when the load causes the end grain of the other piece to push in. This became a common failure mode of the joint in my experiments above 25% of the wood’s full strength. Any way of bracing a corner or triangulating a structure can dramatically increase the strength or allow for a much lighter structure as it reduces the point load on the vertical component of a cantilevered joint. Joints are seldom loaded so heavily but on items like chairs the crushing of fibres around joints can often be part of the ‘loose joints’ failure mode. I’ve not experimented but I suspect “wood hardener” would help in such situations. I hope that is some useful understanding to add to your video. Much appreciated, thanks.

@noelceballos8684

2 жыл бұрын

You should start making videos explaining this in detail! I’d sub!

@isaacbrooks5999

2 жыл бұрын

@@noelceballos8684 I'll second that!

@hmo983

2 жыл бұрын

When you're done with your paper, please do make a video or two. Very interested; would sub in a heartbeat!

@slaveNo-4028

2 жыл бұрын

i second, thanks for this comment, very interesting!! (Although I found it hard to understand/imagine point 3, maybe also cuz english also isnt my first language. I really hope you will make a video or a visualization of this!)

@cbinwindsor

Жыл бұрын

Agree on all fronts here. Particularly the kudos to Matt on another grate video.

I've seen a couple of videos testing the strength of different joints and surprisingly a miter joint happens to be one of the strongest one every time

@torothomassen9581

Жыл бұрын

Agree, seen this more then once. I guess having a miter joint, and just slit in another contrasting wood strip would combine the strengh with looks.

@TheEagle713

5 ай бұрын

From what I've learned the glue is almost always stronger than the wood so a well cut miter allows for excellent adhesion where as fitting joints don't always have as good of adhesion because glue is pushed out as they're assembled.

@Solid_Jackson

Ай бұрын

“I’ve seen a couple of videos” vs person with years of experience 🤮

@EvLSpectre

Ай бұрын

@@Solid_Jackson Even more videos out now with woodworkers testing joints. And all of them were surprised that the miter was coming out above dovetails and box joints. A rabbet actually ranks very high too. The trick is to also test the joint itself and not just rotating it. Because the forces applied are different when it's assembled compared to just two pieces of wood.

@Solid_Jackson

Ай бұрын

@@EvLSpectre I don’t disagree It’s just coming at it from the pov “I’ve seen some videos” is 🤮

It's mental how good of a teacher he is especially considering he is quite young

@davidmoye2354

Жыл бұрын

Once you get the hang of it and have the right kind of intuitive mind, you can imagine all the different stressors and think about the best joints

Surprisingly, miter joints are extremely strong when you add glue. You would think that the end grain on a miter joint is weak, however just by simply cutting the wood at a 45 degree angle makes the glue bond almost, if not, as strong as if it were glued long to long grain. There are many videos on KZread of woodworkers testing miter joint strength with surprising results.

This is the most comprehensive yet concise joinery guide Ive ever seen.

Dude, your explanation is so spot on. Using physics to explain the strength of a joint just made my day. I am just starting woodwork but am an engineer so just want to say thank you so much for making this. Now the woodworking world makes sense to me hahahhaha

Thank you for the video. There is a non-glued joint especially designed for the wooden frame onto which artists (picture painters) stretch their canvases. It is very difficult to explain in a few words, but people into wood joints might find it interesting. It is a hybrid between a four-layer bridal joint and a miter joint. Part of its purpose is that it can be enlarged later, when the canvas sags. To see one, look in the artists paint (oil colors, acrylic colors, canvas and stretchers) area of a craft store. They are called stretchers. They are so difficult this is the only application in which I have seen them.

What a great explanation! Finally I fully understand the meaning behind every choice. Amazing. Thanks a lot for this tutorial, very well edited and explained. 👍👍👍

I am a mechanical engineer. You have trained me in basic wood working and given me a love for the whole idea of the strength that wood can supply. I thank you very much,

I watch many woodworking videos from many "woodworkers" who are not the best "teachers". This video about Joints and when/where to use them - is EXCEPTIONAL! Thanks for the simple explanations and for your quick but effective teaching method! Well done!

You should really watch Mathias' video on testing joints. You'll find you were mistaken in the first 5 minutes several times. Even Mathias we surprised by the weakness of a dovetail and the strength of a box joint.

@OScarTheWhat

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the thing with those joints is when Dovetails were needed they didn't have access to wood glue. now we do have access to wood glue the mechanical strength of a dovetail is kinda moot because its not stronger than woodglue.

The best video I have seen on the differences in joints. Thank you!

Matt, been into wood working for about 2 years now and my subscription list is quite large but I found your explainations very well spoken and kept on point. Thank you for your efforts and I look forward to viewing more of your videos!

I find you to be the most comprehensively bound woodworkers. So much information from techniques for tool use to kinethestetics. SO much useful information with the how and why. Invaluable. For such a young man, you have the knowledge of much older workers. Your videos have been so technically and aesthetically valuable to me. What a brilliant woodworker! I can't imagine the beautiful things you make.

Best tutorials on KZread! Thank you!

I’m having a marathon of your videos. I learning much! Thank you!

Very nice. Love your straightforward style. Saved in my home improvement playlist for later use.

Very informative, and you explain it in a way that makes sense. Especially for those of us who woodwork on the weekends, and learn by doing or watching videos. Well done.

Great job. Thank you for your time and effort to produce this.

OMG! I should have watched further before my last post. I absolutely LOVE that you take a break to say there are no rules in woodworking. As an "also" artist, that's the mantra by which I teach art. I stopped taking official art classes in the 9th grade when I was told that how I was doing something was "wrong". Woodworking is very much the same as long as you take into consideration what you want to make and how much pressure/usage/weight it will take. So many options. Mix and match as necessary. I'm so glad to hear you say there are no hard and fast rules. It warms my heart as a multimedia artist.

You leave a question open ended enough to allow creativity and yet informative enough to teach us a lesson before we have to learn it the hard way. Thank you for that, it takes some real finesse to dance between that kind of line, some experienced teachers haven't even attempted to dance that line let alone become adept at it.

Great comparison/explanation. I like this kind of thing other than strength tests you often see.

The lap joint does have a significant strength advantage over just glueing endgrain together though, so while it has no strength on its own it drastically increases strength when glued. Because the glue doesn't get soaked up like it would with endgrain.

This wasn't the first video i saw about joinery, but it is by far the best. You have my subscription Matt.

Great video. You're right; I've found people telling me which joints to use and saying the others are wrong. Thanks!

What a fantastic presentation. Great knowledge, presentation, attitude and props. I'm sharing with my friends.

That little frame made out of 4 joints is a great idea! I'm fairly new to woodworking, might make that my next project to get practice on each of those..

Wonderfull explanatory video again Matt! Very educational and non-pushing. Like it a lot and will look @ my joints in a different way from now on!

Nice job Matt; you are a gifted speaker. I enjoy your videos.

This was very good to watch Thanks for the useful info! Straight to the point and some good pointers about the stress and direction on those dovetails.

giving me flashbacks to my nvq years and years ago. although saying that its useful to know that a well glued and tightly fitting joint is often stronger than the wood its made from.

This is a great video and not just because of the well-crafted joints, but also because of your patient, logical, step-by-step instruction on the subject of strength vs. decorative, when and where to use each. You look young which gives me hope that you will continue creating these wonderful videos for years to come.

I truly appreciate that the "Side Note" was shot from a SIDE camera angle! :) Keep up the great work!

Wow. So much interesting and useful information given out there. You're my 'go-to' woodworking channel now - I've learnt sooooo much from your videos Matt, thanks :-)

In the next couple of years I'm planning on making an 8 seat round dining table and this video gave me some new insight into joints. I was going to use mortise and tenon on the chairs and still am but I never considered the decorative use of a joint. Didn't even think of the downward force of the table legs when you lift it.

Surely, dovetails are pretty; fun for showing off - if it is hand made. But a slight space between boards renders it "not pretty, and for sure "faulty". But, Matt, I think you've given them unnecessary oversell. A previous comment told the truth, "Glues nowadays are so superior they are seldom the cause of failure and perhaps the TIME doing complicated joinery, over that of easier, equally-as-good more-conventional joinery, would be a valuable constraint to include in their description, I contend that dovetail joinery evolved out of the hide-glue era where it, or some other complicated wedge, link-pin, driven end-grain wedge were about the best one could do. I prefer a tight, perfectly-fitting clamped spline in any case. We know that End-grain to end-grain is week joinery, but with a spline (of a harder wood) sandwiched in, it is easily stronger than a cute dovie tail. Check this out: Look at any dovetail joint closely - it is ALL end grain to end grain, albeit at a low angle. It's through-tensile-strength is only as strong as the narrowest parts of the tails. Superior glues render the "wedge advantage" of dovetails insignificant. Consider this, too, if you're choosing joinery to avoid chances of glue or wood failure, your design is your problem: - you need to start over.

Terrific job comparing the different types of joinery! Keep it up.

Thanks ! As a newbie woodworker, i stumbled on your chanel an man i'm not disapointed ^^ I've watched like 1/4th of your video and i learned so much, i'll to practice before the next set of videos ^^

Thanks! This was exactly the information I was trying to find!

This is the best informative video I have watched as a beginner. Now I can use wood joint properly, Thank you !

Thank you for a comprehensive coverage of different joinery

A good communicator with knowledge is a good teacher. Thank you.

Love that you brought up that there's no rules in woodworking. I once had a guy tell me that my carving technique was wrong. I then asked him if a nine year girl walked in and carved a perfect replica of David with a dull spoon, was her technique wrong? Did she use the wrong tools? Shut him up really quick. I tell people the exact same thing...if in the end, you're happy with the results, you did everything exactly right.

@MattEstlea

4 жыл бұрын

Haha I might have to steal that one for next time! Thank you Brian! :)

@way2white4az

4 жыл бұрын

@@MattEstlea All yours my friend. Steal away!

Great information as always Matt good work

I’m brand new to woodworking and just stumbled across your channel. Based on this video, it clearly appears you are an excellent teacher, so I’m going to go and review your past videos which will hopefully give me some good guidance into woodworking. I’ve purchased most of the basic machines and tools I’ll need, so now I’m ready to learn. Thanks for this video…very informative.

I've worked with wood all my life. I'm 58 and like your woodworking style. Keep up the great video

This was excellent for me! Many thanks Matt!

Great presentation. You did a great job explaining why certain joints are commonly used - it's not arbitrary that doors use blind mortise and tenon joints. That lap dovetail joint is beautiful - the contrast of two different species - whether pronounced or subtle is just pure art.

I waited almost 17 minutes to hear you say "biscuit joiner". There is artistry and there is practicality. Before I retired one of my main jobs in the woodworking shop was picture frames and cabinets. As you accurately stated, the miter joint is not that strong. However, I had a high quality biscuit jointer. Once you placed that compressed beech biscuit in that miter joint and glued it up it was extremely strong. The other thing missing from your video was end use. I made a lot of cabinets. The lap joint is not that strong, however, once it was fastened to a cabinet carcass with dowels, nails and glue, biscuits or whatever, the strength of the joint is now multiplied. I made a seven foot tall corner cabinet for tool storage. I mitered the framework at a 45 degree angle and used the biscuit jointer to glue up the frame along the miter and then joined it to the carcass. The doors held all manner of tools and cutters for years with no failure. You would have to break the wood itself to cause it to fail. I use dovetails in my beehives exclusively. However, I drill holes in the tails and install dowels through to the pin side. That joint will not come apart unless you destroy the hive. In fact, when a bear wrecked my hives, he broke the wood but the joints held. Your video was good and contained some good information. Although the information you left out was very important also. I did press the like button.

finally someone who explains this... i have been asking this question for year... even to my woodworking instructor who would only say it is a balance of strength and appearance... thank you very much...

That was helpful, thank you for the clear simple explanation

I've just started watching your videos, Matt, and have to say, they are superb. Thanks for taking the time and effort for making them and sharing them with us. So I'm about to build a guitar speaker cabinet using some hundred-year-old oak planks I have lying around. Basically it's a box with no front or back (in the initial construction), 51cmx46cmx30cm with 19mm wood thickness. The most common quality joints are finger/box joints. So if I understand you correctly, as there are no load-bearing sides as such, this would work, but dovetails would be both more attractive and more secure? On a 30cm joint edge, how would you calculate how many dovetails or fingers you need, and if it's dovetails, how do you determine the size of the pin and tail? Keep up the fantastic work, mate, and most importantly right now, stay safe and healthy!

Ur lecture gave us a better understanding about the strength of joints. Excellent

I would like to see you venture into Japanese/Chinese joinery.

Very informative. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Thanks for this video Matt. I held off on a project when I saw you mention this upcoming video on instagram, and I'm glad I did. Plenty of food for thought here! Great stuff.

@MattEstlea

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing! Hope it goes well for you!

Awesome information and really like what you said at the end. Take care my friend

Excellent video with great explanations as usual, thanks!

Great video. Well spoken and very informative. Thank you

Hey. Great video, learnt a lot about dovetails that i didn't before With door construction and the use of tenons. Mortice and tenon joints are unique in that you can cut into the tenon and hammer a wedge into it, locking it into place. So on most doors and windows, that's primarily what keeps it together. Bridal joints are actually much less strong for a couple of reasons. Because the tenon goes all the way to the edge, the joint and the glue is much more open to any temperature changes or water damage that the joint will face. So if it is exposed to any changes in temperature or any water damage it'll quickly warp and fall apart. Plus, if the joint is twisted at all, the timber is much more likely to split.

and breath ..... Loads of mega info there Matt... Cheers Paul

Thank you for all of this wonderful information, your presentation was amazing

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3 жыл бұрын

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Love you bro ! thanks for reinforcing my confidence, yes there are no rules , depends on application and common sense

Always very in depth teaching, love your advice.

Excellent video, i enjoyed this thoroughly, very helpful

2022 and the miter joint is actually one of the strongest joints there is

I usually glue butt joints directly and follow up with dowels for reinforcement. It is fast, easy, strong, and I like the dowel pins showing on the outside. But I have to say that dovetails are quite pretty and a nice way to up my woodworking game.

great explanations and great workmanship on all those joints Thanks

Fantastic presentation of the important parts of the craft. Thank you!

that bench is so beautiful!

Great video. Thanks for explaining these joints.

Matt, so glad I found your channel, this is my second video from you tonight and I like your style and explanation of things, which for me just make sense. I have no training in woodwork but my mates who are trained are telling me I’m doing a great job with things I make, they just laugh because I don’t know or use the correct names of things. I have a project coming up, a new dinning table, big piece, centre piece for our home but I am confused with what joints to use for the legs and the connection of the table top to the frame, I will be using mortise and tenon for the cross supports on the frame, I know that much but I’m interested in your thoughts? If you can reply with your thoughts or names of joints I will have a look at them further. Thanks again, excellent content and I have been taught something again tonight. Keep up the great work mate!

As a new woodworker this is one of the best videos I’ve seen!

@dustinburroughs5918

2 жыл бұрын

His videos are great! I’ve been doing this as a hobby for 10 years and I still learn things from Matt’s videos. Very knowledgeable and also a great teacher.

thank you Matt that is something i had not thought of

Great Matt! Thanks for sharing. Not sure if you have a different video about which joint to choose according to the use. For example for cabinet doors, table legs, chairs, table top, cabinet frame....

Great video. Very detailed and nicely explained.

I'm a complete heathen and have become much enamoured with the neat spots of through dowel joint made with sawn flush insert dowels. My joint of choice arm, especially on birch ply

Excellent as always Matt

Thanks mate. This video is right on point. No bullshit, just the facts. I don't have a lot of knowledge about woodworking, but you go through the basics so that I can understand. And also make me feel confident to make my own decisions based on many other variables like what materials or tools I already have. Or if I'd like to experiment to learn. Knowing all these details gives me a lot faith on my ability to carry on.

Great explanation and excellent video. First time seeing your video and it will not be the last.

you're so right about there being 'no rules' (as long as it actually works and stays together). we should be prepared to break with tradition when it works (but biscuits and dominoes are IMO a step too far) as for dovetails: I like them but I'm increasingly using a Greene & Greene style pegged finger joint as it saves a lot of time - and is still decorative

A very useful video! I'm surprised nobody is talking about cross-drilling some of these joints, and driving through some dowels and glue.

Great work. Very informative. Best on wood joinery. Thanks Matt.

I found one of the best explanation and looking forward to see more technics..thanks

Like your work Matt, keep it real.

Presentation done well. Good luck.

First video I've seen of yours. Subbed quickly. Appreciate you and lookin forward to more content from you, Matt.

Great video Matt. Very useful. Cheers

Definitivamente voy a ver tus otros videos. ¡Saludos desde México!

Very Nice video. Well explained especially for beginners like me. Thanks Bro!

Wow I love this content, but the moment I decided to subscribe was the moment you used the book to illustrate the joint for the bottom.. that book just fit so well and was extremely satisfying.

Cool stuff man, thank you!

That was one of the better explanation videos i have seen viewing KZread, congratulations young man. Your education shines through on this one. Thank you

Then add drawboring to mortise and tenons to make them even stronger! Brilliant video Matt!

Some really good tips, thank you.

Really well explained - a very helpful video, thanks

Another great video Matt. Thank you.

Another video tested the joints with weights and the miter joint was the second strongest behind the splined miter. Have you tested the strength of these joints?

great video mate, keep up the good work.