Which Tesla Supercharger Adapter Should You Buy? Tesla vs Lectron vs A2Z
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I recently reviewed three NACS to CCS1 adapters - the Tesla one, as well as the A2Z Typhoon and Lectron Vortex Plug (the links to those videos are below), and in this video, I compare the three to each other.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:42 Background information on NACS adapters
08:36 Side-by-side key feature comparison of the NACS adapters
14:50 Comments by the CEOs of the companies on approved vs non-approved adapters
18:26 Checking out all three adapters and build quality
27:24 The Lectron Vortex recall details
33:42 Lectron's comments on the replacement adapters getting stuck on the NACS connector
37:18 Use the "stateofcharge" discount code for 10% off the A2Z adapter and 15% the Lectron adapter (but only for 7 days after this video posts)
38:04 Is Tesla's adapter the best one?
40:41 Outro
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Hey you got two of all the adapters, I vote you do a tear down! Thanks for the shout out by the way! now I've made it!
My wife’s friends used my Lectron adapter (post recall) and sent me a great video of them trying to unplug it from the NACS connector with one pulling in the adapter and the other on the cable…. Texted them to plug it back into her Mach E and then unplug… presto, came right out. Instructions included with the adapter said to do exactly that.
@tonys9413
16 күн бұрын
Good one 👍
@billjohnson3344
15 күн бұрын
So why this helps is that the car is being used as another 'hand' holding the adapter securely so you can exert more force when releasing the NACS latch and pulling. When you are trying to do this with your two arms (pushing a latch and simultaneously trying to pull the adapter off the cable), this is harder to do. Even Tom mentioned this, and depending on strength and dexterity of the individual - could be more of a challenge. Seems like Lectron still has some tolerancing issues - it shouldn't be this difficult or variable.
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
It's the intuitive way to use tgat adapter anyway, put it in the car first, plug in NACS, then when finished unplug the NACS then unplug the adapter. It's easy to use.
I am an engineer, and had to manage the heat in consumer electronics products I designed. It absolutely makes sense that warmer on the outside means the heat developed in the conductors is getting out to the environment. That's a good thing.
@Johno144
15 күн бұрын
Agreed that better external transfer of heat is better, but more heat could also mean the connector tolerances are too loose and high resistance is creating excess heat. Really the test is flawed as we don’t know the thermal performance unless there’s a teardown.
@jimmurphy5355
15 күн бұрын
@@Johno144 Yes, the real parameter of interest is not the external temperature of the adapter - it is the temperature of the conductors. I wonder if there is any way to access the data from the internal temperature sensors while the adapter is in use.
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
It's better to not make the heat in the first place. This strikes me as an excuse. Could be the smaller adapter is using smaller conductors which makes more heat to begin with.
@jimmurphy5355
13 күн бұрын
@@GregHassler Considerable heat is inevitable given the physical size of the pins and the current being carried through them. It's not an excuse, merely an observation, that all other factors being equal, an adapter with a shorter or more conductice thermal path from the pins to the exterior will have a warmer case and cooler pins than an adapter that traps that heat inside.
@MLXXXp
13 күн бұрын
@@jimmurphy5355 No, the real parameter of interest is the resistance of the conduction path in the adapter, thus how much power is wasted as heat. More massive conductors and a low thermal resistance path to the outside could result in lower temperatures even though the actual power wasted is high, compared to low mass conductors and high thermal path resulting in higher conductor temperatures but actually less power wasted. So, the best measurement to take is the voltage drop across the input to output at a given known current to compare wasted power.
I've been using A2Z adapter for 2 months now for my Lightning, it's great adapter and the access to the Supercharger has been so great. Tesla has a ton of stalls and there's always a spot to charge unlike EA with 6 stalls where in my area is always busy and you have to wait to charge.
@tommol Your video prompted me to test my brand new Lectron adapter before embarking on a road trip next weekend. Good thing I did. The charging went great, until I had to disconnect the adapter from the supercharger cable. I followed the Lectron instructions and the adapter would not release from the cable as you described in your video that some others were experiencing. After about 15 minutes of trying about everything, I was about to leave the adapter connected to the supercharger cable and leave but thought I would give it one more try. With the adapter inserted to the car, I pressed the release and pulled as hard as I could for 30 plus seconds and it finally popped out. @Lectron definitely has issues and now has overcompensated. The spring on the release is way too strong and I think part of the problem is with the position of the release, you have one finger able to hold it fully compressed while using Sam hand to hold adapter against the car port and using the free hand to pull out the supercharger cable. Holding the release fulling compressed with such a strong spring with one finger while providing opposing forces to pull it out seems to be a problem. I wish I had been able to get a video to share with you.
@mewtwo255200
6 күн бұрын
I would be afraid of breaking the charge port on the car by doing that.
As always , great job on the informative video. Take care Tom . Thank you
Another informative video. Thank you so much.
I tried my Lectron adapter that I received earlier this week. I too had issues disconnecting from the Tesla Supercharger wand and almost gave up and left it there. I'm not happy at all.
@tonys9413
15 күн бұрын
Clearly Lectron have a real problem on their hand; I’ve been using other adapters from them with no issues.
@normanlucas4414
14 күн бұрын
Same, took an hour to get it off.
@docallah
10 сағат бұрын
Same here. I just sent an email to Lectron and waiting to hear back.
%15 off the Lectron for ONLY 7 Days? Man Lectron does not know how to do customer service. They need to sell this for $125 to gain customers back. I cancelled mine and order and received a A2Z one. took 4 weeks.
The Lectron adapter does consistently release on the J3400 side when the trigger is depressed and pulled out with a slight pressure placed downward and the J3400 handle releases easily. The trigger release spring is strong so keep a steady pressure while disconnecting. The A2Z adaptor works nicely in my Rivian however, the A2Z adapter is slightly short when inserted in the CCS1 port on my GM Lyriq and the release latch is a tight fit for my finger to engage the top latch on the CCS1 port due to the top of the GM port design on the Lyriq. I use my index finger to engage the latch and it does work but snuggly. (Not an issue currently but a concern until GM is granted super charger access). The Lectron and Tesla adapter do not have this CCS1 port fitting issue on the Lyriq because their release latches are longer.
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
I have both and find the slide lock on the A2Z to be extremely difficult to use, I have yet to have it work successfully on the first try. The Lectron has been flawless, but I sent it back for the recall and I'm waiting for the replacement.
Was expecting the Tesla adapter for my Mach-e in May. After following up by email was told their were production issues at Tesla and that no ETA could be provided. To me that meant many months and likely increased demand for 3rd party adapters. I have some long road trips planned for the summer so I ordered the A2Z as it was available faster than the Lectron. Received it in 10 days and tried it a few days ago. Read some reviews that some people had difficulty getting the Tesla plug far enough into the A2Z to be able to engage the locking slider. I experienced this problem and almost gave up after many attempts. However, I was eventually able to engage the lock and was able to do so easily on the first try when testing the lock/unlock 3 or 4 times. I think it just needed to wear in a bit. It came with a great case and seems extremely well built. I also knew about the position Ford was taking on 3rd party adapters but felt comfortable enough based on the adapter's specs relative to the pending standards. Hope this helps.
Tommy Molo your videos are great, thank you 🙏
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got the ford nd lectron adapter. both work great but the lectron has a better feel to it. I agree with tom that the nacs switch on ford is too clunky. wish i ordered with the lectron code though hahah🤣
I don't tend to take on unnecessary liability, but using the 3rd party adapters you're recommending are well within acceptable risk tolerances for me.
Tom - FRESH NEWS on ADAPTERS FOR GM - GM EV Concierge told me: “Expected” Roll-Out 👉🏿JUNE 19th👈🏿. Love the show! 🙏🏻👊
Thank you for the valuable information. This is encouraging. I ordered my complimentary adapter from Ford back in February. So I'll use my ICE vehicle for road trips until it arrives from Ford. I'm the meantime, I absolutely love my Lightning for normal, everyday, "50-mile-radius" errands and commuting. It's comforting to have the FCSP and HIS features at home. I love it!
I got my Lectron charger about 8 days ago. Post recall. I had the same exact issue the first time I tried a week ago. I could not release the charger from the adapter. Finally, after 20 minutes, I was able to get it unreleased. Was a scary situation. I almost had to leave the adapter attached to the charging cord, just like the example video you had where it was just left attached at the charger. I tried for a second time yesterday at a different Tesla site and it worked well. I think it can be the difference in how the Tesla site cords may be slightly different from one to the other with wear and tear. I did follow the instructions Lectron says to unrelease the cord first, before the adapter from the vehicle.
Is the GM NACS to CCS1 adapter (Part Number: 85090442) priced at $25 + sales tax be available soon? I called my Chevrolet dealership the other day and in fact it is on the parts database though it is not yet available for pre-order. The A2Z Typhoon and Lectron Vortex Plug are great options once GM gives the green light to charge at Tesla’s Superchargers. Another great and informative video from @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
Thank you for all of your great videos. It has really helped to get a clear understanding of what to do when charging these vehicles. our son currently has a 18 model S Tesla we recently traded our model S for the Lexus RX plug-in hybrid. right now we are using a 50 amp outlet and the Teslamobile charging plug with an adapter to go between the model S and the Lexus Rx 450 h +. Also we plan on getting a f150 lightning either used or wait for them to change the plug We also have a friend with a Mach E that charges when they’re visiting We have a 200 panel for our home We want to have a dedicated 60 amp breaker and the Tesla universal wall charger installed. is that what you would recommend ? Or is there a different direction you would go?
@ST1300PA
15 күн бұрын
I have the Tesla Universal Wall Charger. After "trading" one of our Tesla M3s for a Rivian, being able to instantly switch to J-1772 was super convenient. It meant not having to replace the box, or using an adapter (sort of). If you have another Tesla wall charger, as we do, another advantage is that you can load-share. Although we have two independent circuits that can each handle 60 amps, we have them each drop to 30 when both vehicles are connected. Although this doubles the charging time of each vehicle, it's rare that they both need to be charged concurently. All the while lessening the immediate load on our electrical system. Zero issues as of yet and recommened.
I received my Lectron unit this week and tried it out at the local Supercharger. I was unable to remove the Tesla connector while attached to the Lightning. I removed both the cable and the adapter and with enough wiggling around, final got the cable out. Based on my experience, I think the A2Z folks made a good decision to go manual, as they can tolerate more variance in the Tesla connector. (Next time I will try to push down on the connector as suggested by others, to see if that helps. In principle, that will increase the distance from the pin to the connector.)
36:30 "It just so happens that we are more in the public eye." Not the kind of wording I really like to see, especially in writing.
I got the A2Z adapter for my Rivian, suddenly went form barely being able to DC charge, due to lots of broken unreliable chargers in my area to 100% reliable SC charging. Difference in experience is awesome , literally not having to worry if a charger will work or not. We just need the extension cable for the V3 chargers to mitigate the charge port location issues.
On a related topic, on the universal wall connector in the back, is the j1772 latch metal on yours? You mentioned in your other videos that the latch felt cheap and could possibly break, but i just got mine and its a metal latch that seems very durable. I'm curious if maybe since you got yours early, maybe they used a plastic latch and then switched to metal.
I had the problem with the Lectron adapter getting stuck to the NACS cable/receptacle. It took several minutes and a lot of effort before releasing. I almost gave up and was about to leave it attached. It released perfectly fine from the vehicle, a Rivian. I also have an A2Z adapter and it was worked perfectly.
Hi Tom, thanks for all your hard work and your videos. I would gladly pick up one of these adapters. Do you know if Mercedes EQE can charge on Tesla yet? There was talk about it a while back ago. Them and Rivian was supposed to be already going I know riven is already working thanks.
Ford shows my adapter coming in October, so I've used your code for a Lectron adapter; thanks Tom!
i feel like the lectron one being 2 inches longer will benefit us f150 lightning owners because of how tought the cord has to be
Where in the US does Tesla produce their NACS to CCS1 adapter?
I received a Lectron adapter in early to Mid May. Seemed good until I tried to disconnect from the NACS connection. IT Would not release until I got really rough with it using a big wrench to force it apart. Contacted Lectron and they said it was my fault and I should have disconnected the NACS connection from my truck before I released the NACS connector. Which was BS. I did a little modification to the lock pin and reduced its size and now I can get it to disconnect, but with still some difficulty. I would like to note that when I had to get rough with it the first time I disconnected the pin inside had some plastic shavings inside from my rough disconnect.
For the Tesla adapter, can you remove the NACS cable while the adapter is in the car, and then remove the adapter? That might be a more seamless way to remove the adapter than what you're showing.
@billjohnson3344
15 күн бұрын
Yes, but that isn't the way Tesla or Ford/Rivian advise. Oddly, the UL method is opposite - and that is what Lectron says to do - disconnect NACS cable while the adapter is still fitted to the car.
@jasonwiltjer9
15 күн бұрын
@@billjohnson3344 Ah okay, that's interesting.
Bought a Lectron Adapter for my (CCS Equipped) Ford Focus Electric. Unfortunately the Ford Focus isn't supported yet (despite being a Ford) but I'm keeping mine in anticipation since it seems like good quality and isn't a recall unit. (Mine does seem to be one of the units that has trouble disconnecting from the SuC, but I'd rather have trouble disconnecting it than be able to pull out the handle while charging lol)
Tom, any news when a2z extension cable coming out?
Tom, My Lectron Vortex adapter arrived today. It feels substantial and fairly heavy. We have a BMW iX M60 and a Volvo C40, neither of which are a part of the Tesla network yet. My son has a Ford Lightning and we plan to get together on Father’s Day and charge his truck at a Tesla V3 Supercharger to see how the adapter works. Since his “gifted” Tesla adapter from Ford likely won’t arrive until late in the year, he’ll use this adapter until then. I’ll let you know if there are any issues.
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
The Lectron has a great feel.
Easy to get used to the A2Z manual latch if you're not switching between the others. When dealing with a scraped up and tight-fitting NACS connector, the manual switch is nice so you can get a better grip for removal.
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
I have yet to have that slide lock work on my first try, the A2Z is frustrating to use.
@JamesDoebbler
13 күн бұрын
@@GregHassler That's too bad, I have had zero issues locking and unlocking first try every time (~10 Superchargers). Have only had a couple I've had to tug on to get the NACS end out. Seems like all of these adapters have some variance, guess I got lucky.
I had a question. Could you use one of these adapters in place of a "Tesla Tap" on a Tesla destination or a wall charger for a CSS vehicle?
I just tried my new, unused previously, Lectron Tesla to CCS adapter at a v3 supercharger in Vero Beach, Florida. It charged okay, after some horsing around. But when I attempted to withdraw the Tesla nozzle, the adapter wouldn't let go. I followed the instructions--shoving the nozzle into the adapter while still connected to the vehicle and squeezing the release trigger to the maximum extent it would allow--and could not remove the Tesla nozzle from the adapter. I tried this many times. A couple of guys saw my struggles and came over to help. They couldn't remove the Tesla nozzle either. ( I thought maybe I'm not strong enough to depress the unlocking trigger sufficiently. These other two guys were a lot younger and stronger. So I thought they maybe could do it. But they couldn't. And they did follow instructions.) The three of us must have worked on this for 15 minutes, trying dozens of times. The Tesla nozzle wouldn't come loose. I emailed Lectron explaining the problem. They emailed me the instructions. So I tried again several times, following the instructions. Still no good. I've emailed Lectron, asking them to send me an adapter that works and to send a technician to remove the adapter from the Tesla dispenser. (I'm sure I'm on a surveillance recording, and I'm likely liable for taking down that dispenser for an indefinite period of time.)
Measure the ambient air temperature. Probe not in the sun. Then calculate the difference in temperature Tadapter-Tair=delta T
I don't understand the delay in shipping adapters from Tesla. My Ford adapter has been delayed once already and, as I read my order page (Est. ship by June 2024 Order Placed: 2/29/2024), they are now late on the revised ship estimate. If both Lectron and A2Z were able to increase production to meet increased customer demand, it feels like Tesla has been dragging their feet on the manufacture of their adapters. It feels like they had sufficient lead time to ramp up production (5/2023 until 2/29/2024). Based on my order number, it looks like I was one of the first 2000 orders but I still don't have a firm ship date. This problem of no "authorized" adapters is only getting worse so kudo's to you, A2Z and Lectron for identifying and providing options to fill this need.
What about the Lyriq. Will it get an adapter as well
Your slide with comparisons has a different temp change for the Lectron than you verbally said??
Manual switch might make a difference to some user with dexterity issues.
Hey Tom, can you please confirm that even if these 3rd party adapters get UL certification, they will not work with Tesla Level 3 chargers (supercharger) until Tesla approves access? Only Levels 1 and 2 .
Better check with Lectrion again. I am not the only one who got one that wouldn't disconnect. When I contacted the company they said return it and they would replace it immediately. That was about 10 days ago and still no replacement. I had sent back the bad one and requested a refund, but they are balking on that, stating that they will send a replacement. I personally would stay clear of them
I originally ordered the Lectron since they advertized "In Stock ready to ship" This was not the case. After 2 months I cancelled, was refunded and ordered the A2Z. A2Z website has accurate delivery data and I should have gone with them in the first place. For Lectron to issue the statement deflecting that A2Z issues have been reported as well and the only difference is that Lectron is more in the Public Eye is laughable. With Lectrons design of the automatic locking they obviously have a poor design issue. I have had no issues whatsoever with the manual lock on the A2Z and gladly use a manual robust lock over a weak automatic lock.
Any insight on what maybe happening with Chevrolet and Tesla superchargers? Starting to worry it’s just not coming for the bolt.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
16 күн бұрын
I'm hearing soon
28:16 Anyone who applies that much force to the connector is intentionally trying to pull the plug out. I can understand why they needed a recall, but I think the original design is good enough.
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
My original one worked great, I sent it back for the recall but I'm wondering if I should have just kept it.
Honestly my decision strictly came down to which one I could get first. I ordered a Lectron adapter first but went with A2Z because even though I ordered about three weeks after the Lectron I got it first and canceled the other order.
I've been happy with the A2Z adapter and works well with no tolerance issues. I don't like Lectron's statement blaming wear and tear issues on the NACS chargers because that will happen, and don't also have A2Z in this as well. Just focus on what your corrective actions are and move forward.
I ordered an adapter from both A2Z and from Lectron, as both companies were experiencing backorders and I figured that once I received notification that one was shipping, I would cancel the other.. Murphy's Law dictated that of course I eventually received shipping notification from both within minutes of each other. Both adaptors are due to arrive the day after tomorrow, one by USPS and the other by UPS. You just have to laugh at life sometimes...
I guess the manual release is slightly worse UX but the automatic release is no end of problems
I had issues with the Lectron CCS adapter. I tested one a couple of weeks ago and just to see how it connects. As of yet, my car isn't authorized to charge yet, so this was just a connection experiment. But I had the hardest time disconnecting and almost abandoned it. Being newer to this, I didn't know if the charger itself were doing something that was holding the NACS in place or if the adapter was faulty. It took me a good 20-minutes to get the thing disconnected. Add to this that the Tesla ToS states that you can't use third party adapters unless they were made by one's car manufacturer, I don't see that one can actually use one in a non-violative state. It feels like a quality adapter, but that experience totally damaged my perception. I am going to complain to them next.
Add me to those who couldn't detach the adapter. Finally got it loose with a crowbar. Lectron immediately sent a return label and indicated prompt replacement. Fingers crossed! Follow up “prompt replacement “ never came. All I received was a notice that a shipping label had been created but no unit was sent. I’m canceling the order.
@n41gt26
7 күн бұрын
Further follow up: promised immediate replacement never sent. All I ever got was notice of a shipping label. I contacted Lectron advising them that they had received my return and requested a refund. No luck. They said (if and) when I got the replacement, I could return it. I advised them that I was disputing the charge. All I can say is buyer beware. I notice on the Rivian website. There are many individuals with similar problems related to the electron unit. They are obviously having serious problems.
Yes, I use Teslas, but I was wondering are there level2 chargers with easily removable cables like used in the EU?
Which adapter would be good for a Mercedes Benz EQB 350?
I notice you are now discussing Chevy as next, where before you were saying GM. Is that a change? Are we Caddie owners not going to be included ?
My new lectron adapter could not be removed from the Tesla cable this morning after its first use. We spent a half hour twisting, tugging, squeezing the nacs release switch very firmly. Then plugged it back into my ford, and charging some more, and attempting to disconnect the Tesla cable first. No luck, I eventually had to leave it on the cable and go home.
@marlonhoward5483
7 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear. This doesn’t bode well for me as I just received mine yesterday 😕
@StevePodell37
7 күн бұрын
@@marlonhoward5483 As I was (embarrassingly) struggling to get the adapter off, dozens of teslas came in an charged and then left. So it is unlikely to be Tesla's fault. Imagine the situation if a tesla NACS connector would not release from a Tesla car!
A2Z implies that their adaptor should keep the pins/electronics cooler since it has trick insulation to carry heat away from them. Can you test to see if that is so?
Hyundai NACS approval is where in the queue?
Do any of you know if either of these allow you to charge at non Supercharger Tesla destination chargers? The Lectron website seems to say it doesn’t but A2Z website doesn’t really say either way. Do I need two different converters to make use of every kind of Tesla charging station?
Tom, on the chart, the “Temp change” for the Lectron is not correct (at present it’s the same as the Tesla). Cheers!
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
16 күн бұрын
Thanks
@charliesullivan4304
16 күн бұрын
Good catch. Also, what matters is the rise: 25.5, 40, and Lectron, 76 to 91, so that's only 15 rise.
@charliesullivan4304
16 күн бұрын
But ideally we'd want an internal temperature measurement - the case staying cool could be good or could mean the heat is contained inside.
I have a Level 2 Tesla adapter for my J-1772 Fiat 500e. I understand that Tesla destination chargers are FREE, except visiting a brewery and you spend $44 on beer!
It appears that the magic dock adapter is identical to the separately supplied one. I think ioniq vehicles also work using the tesla app.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
15 күн бұрын
Yes, it looks the same
@billjohnson3344
15 күн бұрын
Not identical, as the Magic Dock adapter locks to the Tesla cable and cannot be unplugged - no release lever. Is only able to be dislodged when in the charging station dispenser.
@LarsDennert
7 күн бұрын
@@billjohnson3344 it's been shown that people can disconnect magic dock and walk away with it. I think the two are more similar than you think. There is only a small difference in the locking mechanism.
@billjohnson3344
7 күн бұрын
@@LarsDennert Yes they similar. They are not identical (per your post), as the supplied adapter has a release lever, and the Magic Dock does not - with different latching performed by the dispenser.
I've been wondering why manufacturers don't build cars with both US changing standards. Seams logical to expand access.
I saw a new Fiat 500e using the Tesla DC Fast Chargers.
Looks like you may have a copy & paste error in your table showing the specs re: Lectron temperature delta.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
15 күн бұрын
Yes, that's an editing error that I missed when I reviewed it
When will Hyundai and Kia have access?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
13 күн бұрын
Yes, eventually, but there; no set timeline
I just received my Lectron adapter yesterday, after watching this video I am a little hesitant to try it….
I think with reduction in Tesla Auto sales there might be some second guessing on opening up the Superchargers. If I was Tesla I would slow down the opening of Superchargers to other OEM's. Maybe another reason the supercharger team was gutted.
Companies should have had a stock of adapters before granting access, ready to send out to the owners.
Oof. Those replacement Lectron ones is a really really bad situation. Could set back the possibility of these being ‘approved’ by Tesla. If they have to keep forcing them off the superchargers, it just proves why they don’t want third party ones. That said the A2Z one is great so far!
What about Tesla Tap charging device?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
13 күн бұрын
That will not work
@lowfuel6089
Күн бұрын
Those are for slower level 2 AC charging, not DC superchargers
Lectron discount code is not working, within 7 days of your video.
So when would i be able to charge my ionic 5?
@lowfuel6089
Күн бұрын
Next summer most likely
@reviewsandstuff4447
Күн бұрын
@@lowfuel6089 source ? Electrify America is trash, stations are always down
@lowfuel6089
Күн бұрын
@@reviewsandstuff4447 previously the timeline was early '25, but given how slow the rollout has been and Elon firing the entire supercharger team, summer '25 is my guess. I hope I'm wrong, but all we can do is wait and see
31:06 it sounds to me that, while A2Z’s locking solution is a bit annoying since it’s a 2 step process it has eliminated the issue with locking pins that are too short or too strong or not sturdy enough. Sometimes simple is better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Car adapter aka dongle life for cars
Wish Tesla would publish a master plan for authorizing the additional auto makers.
@tonys9413
15 күн бұрын
Master plan?! This is Elon’s company, he can turn the entire company over its head on a dime 😂
@billjohnson3344
15 күн бұрын
Not up to Tesla alone - the OEMs have to make various changes to their ecosystem to hook into Tesla for authorization and billing. But agree better communication on schedule would be helpful. The Tesla firings definitely did not help this.
Do a drop test. See how they hold up to being dropped on pavement. The tesla adapter is awkward to hold and slippery.
Arcing because of unplugging under power should make everyone cringe at least a little. It's worse if the load is reactive. Unplugging stuff under power is just so 20th-Century. But preventing it is not necessarily so simple.
@GregHassler
13 күн бұрын
It shouldn't arc, the comms pins disconnect first and the power should drop within 200ms, and should be substantially dropped faster than that.
Lectron used to be a good company and they make quality stuff, but their customer service or the lack thereof is frustrating and as much as I like them, I would never buy from them again.
30:00 that's just ridiculous.
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LECTRON gave me a VORTEX for Free and a J1772-to-Tesla NACS Free as well. THANKS LECTRON!
@jasonwiltjer9
16 күн бұрын
How did you get it free?
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
15 күн бұрын
@@jasonwiltjer9 I'm a Youtubber. I make videos for their products. Same with the vbox and portable level 2 charger.
Frankly I’ll probably be done with the last two years of my lease before Hyundai is added by Tesla and even then it will be using non-NEVI compliant charging cabinets. I’m not buying an adapter at any price to charge at 500V. I would have bought a cheap EV if I wanted to charge slowly. Besides, the new SAE J3400 standard plugs are currently being deployed on chargers that already put out NEVI required voltages. Tesla’s network is vast but even more so has become dated. Maybe someday they’ll make cabinets that’ll produce 800V-1KV NEVI complaint voltages. Until then the NACS (Tesla only plug when coined as NACS) bilingual cabinets are mimicking the J3400 standard but are still the only J3400 like plug that’ll communicate to an old Tesla. That’s why NACS will always and only be NACS and isn’t J3400. 40:42
Tesla’s plug converter has a crappy build quality shocker ⚡️😂
It would be nice to not be being paid by the companies you are using. I have a hard time thinking u r not subconsciously influenced by the dicount codes...
Error on chart! The temp rise on Lectron adapter is not correct!
Amazing how SLOW EV charging change goes. Over a year many car manufactures made the announcement and only 2(Ford and Rivian) can access Telsa SuC today. And what % of Ford and Rivian Owners can actually charge on a SuC? 10% ,20%?.
shhhh....hope GM car get delay because the volt and bolt are going to sit at a charger FOREVER.
The non-Tesla adapters are not approved for use on superchargers. Tesla and OEM’s are providing these for free. There is no legitimate reason to be using or promoting third-party unapproved adapters unless you’re getting a financial kickback. The electron recall is just evidence on why third-party adapters should not be allowed. please stop promoting the use of unapproved third-party adapters. The reason no one can buy the adapter on Tesla‘s website is because the OEM’s that are approved and authorized to charge on the supercharger network are shipping them out for free to their customers. The customer should be waiting patiently for those adapters to get shipped to them instead of using unauthorized unapproved adapters. By using the unapproved adapters, they’re risking not only damaging the supercharger or the car, but also causing physical harm or death to the user or other people around the supercharger station.
Buy a different EV fixed it!
Once the switch to NACS happens all these adaptors will be an failed products. The sooner that happens the better.
Only buy or use Tesla approved adaptors, and you won't have a problem. Support America and don't buy the Chinese made knockoffs. Will $50 or $100 dollars make a difference if your vehicle burns up using a NON approved adaptor. Be smart. Use the one that Tesla sells.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
16 күн бұрын
Except, they don't sell it.
@davidws5439
16 күн бұрын
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Tom, they will. Give them some more time. It's much better than burning up the vehicle or a lawsuit with the vehicle manufacturers and / or Tesla for damage to the supercharger equipment. Tesla will know who used the equipment to send the bill to fir damages. I, too, have a Bolt EV that I am waiting on an adaptor. I also have a Y. Thanks for your response.
@MrJinske
16 күн бұрын
@@davidws5439 But of course Tom wants to make a buck, anything for a buck.
@mariano3113
16 күн бұрын
I am awaiting Tesla's CCS2 (J3068) to NACS adapter. Any idea what the timeframe is?
@davidws5439
16 күн бұрын
@@mariano3113 Sorry, I do not know anything about CCS2. In North America
Good content but Tom says the same thing over and over and over, it gets old. I assume he is turning small amounts of content into long videos to increase his ad revenue.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
13 күн бұрын
No, not really, the ad revenue is only a tiny revenue stream and not worth worrying about. The sponsorships are where the $$ are. I need to work more on not repeating myself. Thanks for the feedback