Life seemed so much simpler back in the early 90's for a basic install/swap! The flexibility of today's equipment is amazing! And...can be confusing, at first, for old farts like me!

@derekfreeman3562

Жыл бұрын

Just a bass and treble know was so simple

@markschultz1606

Жыл бұрын

HUA.

@jamescorfield534

9 ай бұрын

Yeah man I’d like a head unit that has clean signal. My kenwood Exlon is weird. There’s no simple signal to start from too many other option instead

@skippyboy88

8 ай бұрын

I remember when the zap board was cutting edge technology haha . Old school zapco amps and hifonic Orion and zeus

Dude Mark is such a beast.. literally anything I can think to ask he’ll answer it in any of his videos..

Yeah all my amps I run in full range, and let my dsp do , all my tunes and crossover setting!!!

How would you incorporate an epicenter within this exact set up?

I have a Kenwood Excelon DMX-706S that I run directly into my MiniDSP DSP and then to my amps. Before I had the DSP I would control all of the eq, phasing, time alignment and crossover settings from my head unit and it was cool but the DSP is way more powerful and adjustable plus it offers me the ability to make different presets so I can have a preset for sound quality and one for SPL. I can also add a preset for when someone else is driving and make it so that person cannot cause damage to my system even if they were to crank everything to max level because they are now being controlled by the DSP. The flexibility and features of a DSP cannot be matched!

@KvnWlsn

Жыл бұрын

​@kychristell1779heck no! But sometimes my mechanic may need to test drive it so I have a preset that actually disables my sub output and increases the high-pass to my mids and highs so that they are less likely to be damaged by someone turning the volume up too much.

I agree that keeping fade ability on the stock deck is beneficial and worth running the extra set of rcas for. Great explaination of the ideal setup.

For me it's best to have the DSP do all the work. That is the best option IMO.

@SpinningwrencheswithJ

4 ай бұрын

Would you set the stereo unit to flat? And make all the adjustments in the DSP?

@jiriza84641

4 ай бұрын

@@SpinningwrencheswithJ yes, the stereo will not control anything the DSP is the overall control.

@SpinningwrencheswithJ

4 ай бұрын

@@jiriza84641 oh man…oh man…I’m a in my 40’s and I’m also a bass head but I’ve never messed with technology like this…a little overwhelming for sure brother.!!

@jiriza84641

4 ай бұрын

@@SpinningwrencheswithJ you'll still get the frequency from the rca's in and use the amp or DSP with the volume knob. Also, I hear you I like my sound as well, and bass when needed.

Got that DM810 on it'sway, can not wait to get it hooked up.

Timely video ... I was just thinking about this last night while planning my system. Great info as always!

Mark, another great video. Your explanation is clear and concise - well done!

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching and Happy Holidays!

My dm-608 had a short but prior I channeled all 4 amps through the dsp. Def sounded A F-TON better. Now that it's just from the HU it stands out far more than when I first installed it a couple yrs ago

I presume you could also then choose a "cheaper" headunit with less audio out options and let the DSP do the work if you were planning to have a DSP. Given headunit prices are sky high or out of stock.

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

As long as the signal out of the head unit is clean and 20-20k then yes this could potentially allow you to pick something with less pre-outs as you can create what is needed via the DSP. Good observation!

@bsmbB

2 жыл бұрын

I would look for something high a quality playback. You cant usually upgrade the signal out typically it only gets "worse" from the signal source

@KvnWlsn

2 жыл бұрын

@MaXimus666789 I would still look for a head unit that is of high quality for the main purpose of having the cleanest signal possible. A DSP is a powerful tool that can do a lot but unless it comes with a line driver built in your signal is only going to be as good and as clean as what's coming from the head unit which is why I chose the Kenwood Excelon DMX-706S for my system. It has a clean and clear signal even at maximum volume with no distortion so as long as I set the gains on my amps correctly I never have to worry about blowing any speakers or even listening fatigue which can happen when listening to a "dirty" signal.

@thatguywiththeSV

2 жыл бұрын

I like sky high car audio

@ekimandersom4478

5 ай бұрын

Other than for radio, you don’t need a headunit at all, just buy a flac player or use the bluetooth directly in the dsp

I use the Head unit to control the subwoofer volume. Still letting the DSP doing crossover and time alignments for the front rear and sub.

This has been on my mind a lot lately. Would you lose any signal "strength" by using only 2 rcs inputs? I've decided to bypass my factory HU. Tomorrow I'm installing a 2.1 volt USB dac out of my phone into a LC1i line driver and then to the DSP. I tried a SoundblasterX G6 dac/amp as a line driver and the very low sub frequencies were way stronger. Hoping this Dragonfly Red usb dac can do the same with less bulk.

Mark, when bought my current car I went to install a new HU and my amp and sub set up from the old car. This is when I found out about the factory amp for the mids. I used the regular output from the head unit to the factory amp. Should I have used the pre-out for the front and rear instead? I did eventually have to go into my sound settings and turn down the gain for the front and rear channels to improve the sound quality. If you need more info just ask. Thanks for vids!

Thank you mark for all your efforts.. I have a question: How can I implement and wire a center speaker 🔈 for my car which doesn’t has one , what type of speaker to use and how to wire it .. please I need details

Quick question! For the “Output configuration” for a subwoofer would you select “Mono” or leave it as stereo output? I have the DM608 and have my subwoofer RCA’s going into channels 3/4 stereo of the input section and out of channels 5/6 stereo of the output section.

I have the DM810. I use RCA line out 9 and 10 linked to the left and right on my mono sub amp. Is this OK, or should I just use just one of the mono lines from the DM810 with a "Y" adapter to the JL RD1500/1's left and right? Any pros or cons? Always wondered about that

Thanks for this info, question if I am using a dm 810 do I still need an epicenter for the subs and do I still have to use a preamp?

Really nice content! I usually dont run the back speakers from an amplifier, I have the impression it messes with the music stage of the system. Would you recomend PA them or just leave hooked to the main unit? I usually only drive with one passenger

Hi Mark, can you make a video that shows the order of operation from the head unit to the dsp with multiple amps. I'm building a system from scratch and I want to go with 2 sets of highs, 2 sets of mids and 4 subs. Do I need the 10 channel dsp from audio control? That's what I'm looking at.

I have the same setup but why didn’t you use channels 9+10 to output to the subwoofer amp? Instead you used the 7+8? Thanks for the explanation

I would bridge mid and bass just to not feel like I'm leaving something out ...so basically id have all 3 bands going to the DSP instead of just the highs and mids, because I feel like im leaving something out

Hey Mark, One thing I was wondering is when you make the front rca work as the “sub” preouts aswell what happens if you fade the signal to just the rear like in your example for the kids. Would that also cut off your subwoofer since the signal has now been turned down??

I have a question; what if I use the sub out of my 9887 direct to amplifier, effectively freeing up 2 channels on my dsp408 processor. Would I need to increase the TA/delay on the sub outputs coming directly from the HU to accommodate whatever latency in the DSP? Just a cheap way to get 10 active channels for me without going Helix or MiniDSP

Would you rather use an external LOC to covert high speaker inputs or get an amp with built in function which accepts high level speaker inputs?

So would you also want to use the output on the 4 channel amp? Or stay with the HU sub output?

So noob question if you run all 3 sets trying to keep the fade option. Can you still run all your speakers to one amp from the dsp? And then your subs to another amp?

Since the DSP is feeding the signal to the amp would you still set the crossover on the amp or just set it to full pass? Active system.

I really need to get a new head unit, any budget ones that I should take a look at? Need one that has outputs for mids and highs too, my current dinosaur Pioneer HU only has sub outputs

thank you for explaining that. i did not know what you just taught me.

Hello !! Do you know how manufacturers connected the center speaker in to the 4 channel amplifier ?? My car has a center speaker but original headunit has only 4 channels ??

Sooo I have a question if you have a head unit with 2.5v pre outs and you hook it up to a sound processor will you get a better voltage signal going to the amps?

Will I still need the audiocontrol matrix to boost the input signal if I'm using the audiocontrol dm-810 and if so will the matrix go in front of the dsp or behind it to the amplifiers?

This was a good video. this question is a big topic glad you made it.

Can you sum the front and rear channel input to increase voltage output or doing that would muddy the sound.

So im confused on the whole thing with component speakers and the wiring for those with the dsp do the tweeters and mids near separate rca lines and if so where would they go ?

When would you change the voltage output on the dsp from 5v to 10v ?

I literally was thinking about this today. THANK YOU!! I appreciate you elaborating this topic especially for me. I’m always “experimenting” & end up having to either go back and fix something or replace something. So again, thanks a lot Mark 🙏🏾

Do you have a video showing your recommendation for a beginner set up for router router table and what bits to get first? If not could you do one please

My problem is from time to time when I have my hu up to the highest clean volume no clipping my dsp will either stop play sound until I turn off and back on or sometimes it will just make a loud screech sound until I turn it off

Question. I have a Honda 2021 that I cannot change the head unit on (yet) it has a factory 8 channel amp front mid high and centre, rear full range and sub with factory subwoofer in the boot can I use the high lvl wires to that sub to run into an aftermarket amp to get a better sub in the boot

Hello sir I have a helix v8 dsp amplifier And head unit is oem Should i use hi lo converter to give input to dsp amp or just use hi level speaker signal input to dsp amplifier? Plz help me

So if i get it right, if we are to use fade front/rear, and sub is connected to front. You would turn sub down along with front if you fade onto rear channel? So basically always connect sub to sub to sub when using a dsp and your hu got a sub output?

They also make 6 channel rcas. I would use the sub out on the headunit. Yea it’s cool to use the dsp but definitely redundancy.

I don't why but I had all 3 outputs, left and right from behind the headunit going to the every imput channels on my DM608. Then on my output I had all three input sources enabled and highlighted in blue on every output channel.

Factory head unit sub out to mono amp? Or amplifier line outs into mono amplifier? ... don't have a DSP but have 2 options and I don't know what is best.

could yo do a setup on dodge and ram steering wheel controls , 2 wire, jack, restance and rams what? i have not gotten this to work yet in my 2019 ram promaster city i am useing a dmh-1500nex which does not show in settings, the steering wheel control settings. any help is awsome thank you! happy new years.

I've noticed now some of the Chinese aftermarket head units that are direct replacement have DSP software built into them have you had any experience with this new technology? Love your videos btw. Have had alpine F1 set up previous and alpines processor which required a laptop and RTA for the shop to set up

If my head unit is only 2 volts on the rca outputs for the front and rear speakers. Can a dsp increase that voltage. And what is a good voltage output for a sub rca?

I like the audio control DSP, however I don't like having to rely on the computer software necessary for tuning. It would be nice if it had an app with Bluetooth for phone connection to make adjustments as well.

@darryndewar

2 жыл бұрын

Like with the AC-BT24 and the DM-RTA app?

@Technotranceism

2 жыл бұрын

@@darryndewar Ah I see said the blind man to the blind boy with the saw.

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

The DM-RTA app is for the DM-RTA. But yes you could add a AC-BT24 and tune via a mobile device with the DM Smart DSP app

@jonclemons8463

2 жыл бұрын

Is there one for your phone?

@Technotranceism

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonclemons8463 apparently it can be adapted so

Do headunits save the crossover settings when disconnecting the battery?

What would be your advice if an audiocontrol epicenter was added into the mix? I currently have a pioneer avh-3500nex and run front and rear rca straight to audiocontrol dm-608 and sub rca to epicenter then to dm-608. The crossover settings for subwoofer on head unit are set as high as can go to feed epicenter as much signal range possible. So I end up with 3 control knobs one for sub amp, one for epicenter, and the dm-608 knob I have set to control my midrange from 400Hz-2800Hz. I run 3 amps a sub amp, a 4 channel for mid bass and midrange and another 4 channel for 2 sets of tweeters. The sub amp is NVX VAD2700.1, mid bass mid range amp CT Sounds CT150.4D, and tweeters powered by CT Sounds CT80.4D. In your opinion do I have the setup done right? If not any advice or suggestions are welcomed as this is my first build that is 100% done by me and I learned by sifting through youtube videos(a lot of CAF ones so thank you for that) and online forums so I realize that there is so much that I don't know but want to learn. Keep the outstanding videos coming and thank you

In my current situation W/ my Factory Bose system. I have 8 Speakers. I have 2 Front Tweeters, 2 front doors, 2 Back Door and 2 Rear Back. It looks like the 4 front are connected together and the Same with the Rears. So I only have 4 pairs coming out of the factory Amp. When connecting a DSP W/ Amplifiers like the AC D-5.1300 would you recommend leaving the Speakers connected the way they are, or would it be better to have them all separated?? Thanks

Came out just in time I’m planning on using my head unit jvc kw-z1000w to my ac d6.1200 to my sub amp sfb-1000d to power 2 jl10tw3-d4 subs

Through a d series amp/dsp (audiocontrol) and the epicenter is the best way👍🏼👍🏼

I just use dual controllers, the DRC-205 and my subs amp controller gives me granular control

have watched this over and over if u used all three f/r/s or just front and sub, would u not put the sub from radio to the mono input on dsp instead of stereo where u have them

i like to run 3 RCA's front, rear n sub to the processor, keep the setting on the deck flat and tune the DSP, that way when i want to adjust a song like it needs a little more of something or less i can use the setting on the deck cause at the end of the day we all listen to different genres of music and not all music is recorded correctly. so the deck/head unit is to make minor adjustments, that way when the DSP is set you always have the flexibility to still tweak from the head unit individually. Its the same like using a Preamp, example a head unit that have front rear and sub , you got 2 amps one for mids and highs and one for sub , then using 2 preamps makes more sense, front output from head unit to one preamp and sub output from head unit to next preamp, now you have setting for mids and higs alone and with the sub you can adjust for bass alone and as it runs through from the front and read signal the settings for front on the deck is added adjustments to make as with the sub setting on the head unit , maximizing everything, and this can be done in many ways as long as you know what front-rear or sub will be powering, With the processor its easier as long as you got everything dial in and less equipment, with more than one preamp you can always adjust on the fly.

So does a say audio control EQ do kind of the same thing but not digitally??

Hey Mark, where should I put the Epicenter after or before the DSP?????

Awesome info and channel! So, using connection from the DSP to AMP, we make the frequency settings on DSP side, then do we do anything on Low Pass on the amp side? (I.e. leave it wide open or mirror the setting on DSP or doesn't matter?) Still need to set the gain?

@ryanjames2962

2 жыл бұрын

Technically it doesn’t matter… BUT, to be safe yes I personally would match the DSP, if you ever altered something on the DSP by mistake then it would be a backup so that the wrong signal wasn’t sent to the subwoofer. This is more of an issue with mids and highs, but the same principle would still stand

Love the video! I had a question, is it fine to configure time alignment and speaker levels on my headunit, and perhaps a little bit of eq too. While doing the bulk of the eq adjustment on the dsp. (My dsp does not support a remote to change presets) I drive with passengers in my vehicle half the time, and I love being able to quickly adjust the listening position (which sets the time alignment and speaker level based on the number of passengers) on my headunit without an app or a computer. I want to have the best possible listening experience in the drivers seat, but quickly change to a very good experience if passengers are in the vehicle. So I’m happy if the dsp is optimized for the drivers seat, and the headunit can be used for quick tuning.

@Bobcatspiritdude

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense to me 💪😎👍

Is buying a audiocontrol matrix worth the money if you have a head unit with 4v pre outs. And what do the audiocontrol matrix do for that price point. Please help.

i find that depending on what music im listening to that sub settings are constantly having to be changed. volume and crossover point. is it just me? would removing that option from the deck cause this to be a problem for many?

Another great video Mark

Just out of curiosity what if you had like 4 sets of speakers front, 4 speakers back including 8" midrange, 6'5" component set in the doors then lets say like a small coaxial in like kickpanel or dash front and same type of a speaker behind the rear passenger area each side, plus a subwoofer in the trunk as in a lot of wires 2 amps front and rear how would you go about connecting those.

Thank you. For sharing your knowledge.

Hi Mark. Is an excelent video. Thanks. But, how to connect a Epicenter using a DSP too?

To be honest the last system I had I always changed my crossover settings on my subs depending on what type of music I was listening to. Buts that's just me, I listen to all kinds of music

Hey man so I got a pioneer as well is their any specific way way the channels in the back of the head unit are supposed to go cause it starts at FL FR RR RL would FL be 1st channel or FR ?

Can I use a rca bass knob with the rca signal from dsp to amp

I've set up the dsp and mids and highs are working but no output is coming from subwoofer. Any ideas?

I just ordered a epicenter micro. It asked for full range signal. Are aftermarket sub out puts full range until I turn on the sub crossover on the head unit? Or would I have to put a Y spliter on one of my rcas to get signal to my epicenter?

Love your videos Mark very educational and great content . Here's another question. I run a DD Audio system, and have a DSI-2, DSP. I run my sub out of 7-8 just as you showed here. The DSP gives me all these controls you just mentioned therefore, I wonder if runing a bass restoration such as The Epicenter gives anything additional that I would miss out on with the DSP?

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Epicenter does things DSP does not. But perhaps we can explore more in a future video. 👍😎

@rudeboyrudyrd

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarAudioFabrication do u recommend an epicenter along with this same audio control dsp ? Will it help sound quality at all in the subwoofer end ? Just woukd like to know your thoughts on having an epicenter along with dsp or would i be just fine running an audio control dsp alone no epicenter ?

@rudeboyrudyrd

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarAudioFabrication just looking to get the best sound quality out of my truck setup as i can my next step is buying this audio control dsp in this video

@cesardiaz9439

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarAudioFabrication That would be great. I know it restores bass signals that the music doesn't have. However, I also made a setting on my DSP with raised db on the sub stage and that helped with those type of songs also. But I don't know how that affects the sound quality or how it differs.

Do most stereo company's/installers know how to do all this, including using the mic to tune a DSP system?

I love this video man but I have a question can I still use my epicenter? And how can it be conect

My son has an s10 with a pioneer head unit, an amplified 8" sub and a small amp with a dsp built in for the front and rear speakers. The head unit only has one set of outputs. We're wondering if it would be best to use the dsp app, the built in crossover settings on the sub or the head unit to tune the system? The rca's go from the head unit to the mids and highs amp then from the amp to the amplified sub.

what does it mean if my xav-ax3200 doesnt output anything through the subwoofer output, with it disabled and enabled (its not the amp)

Hey bro can you show a video of how to tune the bass and mids trough an prv DSP please

I can use the factory stereo and another stereo separately for rca

Might be a dumb question but if I use a DSP I wouldn’t need a bass restorer? Can that just be done with a DSP or would I need both?

Would this bypass the H/U set up also work with an Audison AP8.9 & AP1D system? I'm about to order my system and Audison is the route I'm going. I haven't installed a system like this since my teenage years... about 30 years now :( If I bypass the head unit sub-out go directly into the AP8.9 bit (which is where I plan on connecting the DRC), would the software that Audison provides to control the DSP allow me to split the input frequencies to share with the sub out from the DSP amp to the mono block?

I have a pioneer 7600nex, should I get a DSP for my subs?

Can I just use a single Digital Coaxial cable for full range signal to the DSP? Is the Coaxial cable better than toslink?

i have a diffrent idea, i have some music with very heavy base and some with out, and i don't have a subwoofer(i need my trunk very often so i need the space). kann i split my front and rear bass to the sub channel to control the volume of the Bass if i set the crossover right than can i easy control the subwoofer output over the fast menu on my HU, only to clicks. on my dsp that i will buy i can control master and subwoofer, but i don't have one. only 2 way bi amping in the front and rear

where would you hook up an epicenter in this chain?

Trying decide on my next build what amps to use. JL XD or Audio Control?

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

Both are super solid and work great!

i feel like i messed up having ordered the d5.1300 because i want to use my epicenter. i should have purchased the d4.800 along with the lc1.800 or lc1.1500 and just added the epicenter in line with them. what would you suggest?

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

The epicenter can definitely be used with the D-5.1300.

Great video only wish best way of implementing a epic center in there BEST Way

Can i connect a epicenter to the dsp?

Very informative video. I have a Pioneer DEX-P99rs as the head unit in my system. Do I still need a DSP. What can a DSP do for me?

@beardedforlife3740

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on how good you want it to sound. A DSP will allow you to tune each speaker individually meaning you can set crossover points, do time alignment, and equalizer settings on each speaker separately. Not to mention you can choose what type of filter to use and the slope of that filter for each speaker. As far as I know there isn't a head unit out that will allow for individual control of each speaker. With that being said you don't have to use a DSP if you like the sound you already have using the settings on your head unit

I would hook my amp to aux pre out on my head unit correct?

Alot of people are gonna go with a DSP in the $100-$150 range that won't have the computer stuff. So there will only be a graphic EQ, possibly with phone access, soooo my question is, on that graphic EQ does the frequencies below 120hz affect the full range speakers or the subwoofer? Does the DSP know to send 100hz-80hz and below to the sub? Now remember, this is for the cheaper DSP'S

Can you do a video that talks about interfaces you can use to connect the vehicle to the head unit? I want to change the head unit in my Ford Mondeo (Fusion) but don't want to lose the environmental/steering wheel/vehicle information I currently get on the factory head unit.

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps a good idea for a future video, thank you!

PLEASE HELP! I have a 2016 Yukon Denali threw in a 15 inch sub and 1500 watt amp sub is in a 4 cu. Ft box tuned to 30hz (i love super lows). This thing sounds nice from 43z up to 60z but anything under 43hz is nonexistent i did notice the lc2i plays the frequency that the stock speakers play. Will a dsp bring those lower frequencies in im big on my bass being from the 24hz to 34 hz and i cannot play my favorite music. Any help is highly appreciated im a cancer patient basshead trying to get back into the scene.

Can I use a audiocontrol epicenter with this application if yes where is the best place to install

Have you ever used the audiocontrol dqdx signal processor and epicenter together and would you install in your system ?

@tomasexteriors

2 жыл бұрын

Good question@eddie Telles

@CarAudioFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

Good question for a future video!

@62dobie

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarAudioFabrication, did you ever do this video suggestion? I have a installation coming soon. I was thinking about adding the epicenter.

@62dobie

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarAudioFabrication, My build is very similar. Pioneer DMH-W4660NEX head unit with Sirius HD kit, Metra Dash Kit 95-7628bhg and Maestro ADS-MRR for steering wheel/front & backup camera controls, Custom SlamPanda Raider Nation Bass Knob w/led's, Panda Cub for four DS18 Bullet Tweeters on a JP48 amp, four D4S Pro Audio 6.5 v2’s mids on a JP234, 2 Nightshades v5’s 12in's on a SALT 8, 5.5 qubic feet box by Gately Audio tuned to 32hz, 80ah of Lithium by Underground Power, XS Super Cap under the hood, Dual Volt Meter in dash for Lithium and alternator, 250amp high power Alternator by Power bastards, Big 4 install, SoundSkin Pro Plus Sound Deadening, doors, headliner, floor and hatch,, SMD Copper Fused Distribution Blocks, OFC RCA’s from KnuKonceptz, OFC 4 gauge Sky High Speaker Wire, a whole lot of OFC 0 gauge Sky High Wiring and colored heat shrink wrap. System Tuning will be at -8db. This is my set up going in June 1. I'd like to add an Epicenter. Is it necessary?

is the audio control dm 610 and dm 810 still good in 2024? or is there something better???

so, where does an epicenter fit into this??