Which Star Wars Faction has the BEST FORCE USER? | Star Wars Legends Lore

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Today on Star Wars Factions Compared, we examine the Force Users of the Republic, Galactic Empire, Rebel Alliance and CIS.
It's a battle of the heavyweights, as Clone Wars Era Yoda and Count Dooku go against Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker and Emperor Palpatine, all in a battle to determine which Star Wars Legends Character was best.
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  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder6 жыл бұрын

    Been a while since a factions compared episode - hope you guys like this one! Star Wars Empire at War Gameplay from the 2nd Channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGWXzaRyqq6vYNY.html

  • @_ziac_6048

    @_ziac_6048

    6 жыл бұрын

    EckhartsLadder ur the best KZreadr

  • @grenedge5832

    @grenedge5832

    6 жыл бұрын

    Omg I suggested this a while back! This is awesome!

  • @_ziac_6048

    @_ziac_6048

    6 жыл бұрын

    I AM THE SENATE

  • @harrysimpson1344

    @harrysimpson1344

    6 жыл бұрын

    Do a facton compared on the best home base

  • @mt.1136

    @mt.1136

    6 жыл бұрын

    EckhartsLadder thanks for picking my suggestion

  • @allanherring4207
    @allanherring42076 жыл бұрын

    "This is going to be a little controversial." + Putting Grand Master Yoda on the bottom = Understatement of the year.

  • @Shrapnel82

    @Shrapnel82

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not about who was most powerful, but who used the force best. Yoda was powerful, but really screwed the pooch by not preventing the rise of the Empire. It makes sense in a way that he's at the bottom, while at the top is Luke who... unscrewed the pooch.

  • @sneakycat67

    @sneakycat67

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shrapnel82 he kept the dark side at bay for many centuries he was 900 years old after all meanwhile the emperor was in power 20 years or so

  • @mysteriev7071

    @mysteriev7071

    6 жыл бұрын

    The high ground, Disney sequel trilogy is fucking joke. Shouldn't be taken seriously.

  • @orbitjupiter3435

    @orbitjupiter3435

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what I thought

  • @alexphilipose1351

    @alexphilipose1351

    4 жыл бұрын

    @The high ground We ignore the woke Disney crap

  • @bandit5747
    @bandit57476 жыл бұрын

    Its Ki Adi Mundi because he cared about the Droid Attack On the Wookies.

  • @HalfDemonInuyasha

    @HalfDemonInuyasha

    6 жыл бұрын

    Followed by Obi-Wan, because he knew it was system they could not afford to lose?

  • @pajamma5570

    @pajamma5570

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HalfDemonInuyasha woooosh

  • @James-lh3sn

    @James-lh3sn

    5 жыл бұрын

    well done you spelt it right

  • @ElSharko-

    @ElSharko-

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pajama Pants r/im14andthisiswoooosh

  • @luckyjim37

    @luckyjim37

    4 жыл бұрын

    But he could have had cover when he was being shot at by clones during order 66 as there was a droid tank next to him

  • @collinfossett7841
    @collinfossett78416 жыл бұрын

    Which faction had the best LEADER? CIS-Darth Sidious Republic-Sheev Palpatine Empire-Emperor Palpatine Rebellion-Mon Mothma

  • @mcstompwaffle

    @mcstompwaffle

    6 жыл бұрын

    3 of those leaders are the same person.

  • @mella4376

    @mella4376

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's the point sergeant.

  • @TK-sh7vl

    @TK-sh7vl

    6 жыл бұрын

    So no matter what a man named sheev will most likely win

  • @Calamarri

    @Calamarri

    6 жыл бұрын

    C-Foss FR-S cis

  • @user-ms9wy9to6i

    @user-ms9wy9to6i

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking about that too. And after all Mon Mothma's Rebellion wins lol so Star Wars

  • @highgroundproductions8590
    @highgroundproductions85906 жыл бұрын

    Palpatine takes the cake Canon-wise. Luke wins Legends wise.

  • @Khaliljt

    @Khaliljt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yoda is still a contender in canon

  • @wolvreigns

    @wolvreigns

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yoda is more powerful. Sirius has to survive their dual because if he didn’t then well the original trilogy wouldn’t make sense

  • @robertdullnig3625

    @robertdullnig3625

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could Palpatine beam an image of himself across the galaxy though?

  • @natem1579

    @natem1579

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@robertdullnig3625 it's not about their power in the force, it's how much of an impact they make for their faction. Luke did jack shit for the New Republic.

  • @glowhoo9226

    @glowhoo9226

    4 жыл бұрын

    Robert Dullnig palpatine cold create force storms across the galaxy

  • @thefatking3154
    @thefatking31546 жыл бұрын

    Yoda didn’t tell anakin to ignore his fear, he told him to deal with it by facing it, but his selfishness and arrogance drove him to try to take things into his own hands.

  • @silversurfer8818

    @silversurfer8818

    6 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, Yoda tried to relay an important part about the jedi philosophy that death is a natural part of life - but anakin in his grief and fear would not listen.

  • @zkapsh

    @zkapsh

    6 жыл бұрын

    THE FAT KING that's the thing people dont understand about jedi philosophy it isnt about killing your emotions it's about controlling them and not letting them control you.

  • @Sethq1

    @Sethq1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but that’s the problem. Yoda gave terrible advice. Anakin is told to rejoice the fact that Padme is passing on into the world of the force. He ignored Anakin and basically told him, ‘Don’t be sad that Padme will die, be happy.’ So he burrows his emotions deep down until he finally explodes. Jedi Philosophy destroys a person because it causes someone to reject normal human emotions. This isn’t possible, you can not reject fear, and when you do it will bite you in the back.

  • @godgus1863

    @godgus1863

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yoda basicly told him "Fuck depression, it's all in your head."

  • @therawquizshow6616

    @therawquizshow6616

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Sethq1 Sorry, but this point is always brought up and it’s always wrong. Anakin came with vague, unfocused problems, don’t be shocked when you get vague answers when you do that. Anakin only sort of sought advice. He was completely dishonest with Yoda about it. For all Yoda knew, Anakin was talking about Obi-Wan or any number of comrades in arms, they were in a war after all. Supposing Anakin came to Yoda and confessed his marriage to Padme and fears about her, he probably would have advised he leave the Order and the War Effort to focus on his family as one cannot do both. That part is speculation on my part, but Anakin asked flawed and inadequate questions and expects perfect answers...

  • @Inquisitor_Lelouch
    @Inquisitor_Lelouch6 жыл бұрын

    I like dooku, but yoda is obviously more powerful over all.

  • @loganford4797

    @loganford4797

    6 жыл бұрын

    Inquisitor Buccellati Yoda is more powerful than sidious

  • @invalidcrazy7034

    @invalidcrazy7034

    6 жыл бұрын

    He got beaten by the person who was less powerful than him?

  • @aneticus9337

    @aneticus9337

    6 жыл бұрын

    nothing is more powerful than me

  • @MrSpartanspud

    @MrSpartanspud

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Yoda sgows how much stronger he is by using the force to absorb force lightning tyrannus uses against him.

  • @stephenblanck6986

    @stephenblanck6986

    5 жыл бұрын

    Most effective not most powerful.

  • @gorkamorka41m84
    @gorkamorka41m846 жыл бұрын

    Without Palpatine there would be no Empire, so he had the biggest positive impact on his faction.

  • @matthewtylerbumgarner6669

    @matthewtylerbumgarner6669

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lukáš not really the Jedi order already had existed without yoda so someone else would just take up the rank of grandmaster while palpatine created the empire and palpating also controlled the cis as well since dooku just followed his masters plan

  • @RikkiTikkiTavi290

    @RikkiTikkiTavi290

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Lukáš Yoda basically just stood by and watched the Republic waste away and then die, all the while spouting millenia old impractical doctrine. No way does he win.

  • @cricketandcurry7823

    @cricketandcurry7823

    4 жыл бұрын

    No without yoda there would be a Jedi order without sidious there would be no CIS and without him aswell the republic would be weak af

  • @kungolaf4499

    @kungolaf4499

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dooku created a faction able to match the Republic from thin air. Palpatine abused an already established powerbase. If that is the criteria, Dooku had a much more productive impact on his faction.

  • @irmaosmatos4026

    @irmaosmatos4026

    Жыл бұрын

    And Luke basically destroyed the enemy faction (the empire).

  • @kingnaga619
    @kingnaga6196 жыл бұрын

    Dooku is underrated. He personally taught very notable individuals, such as Greivous, Asajj Ventress, and Savage Opress. He was also capable of overpowering the likes of Anakin and Obi-Wan on two separate occasions, and was able to hold his own against someone as powerful as Yoda. Yet another case of the CIS going under appreciated.

  • @maxignatius4355

    @maxignatius4355

    6 жыл бұрын

    King Naga I love Count Dooku as a character!

  • @mick2998

    @mick2998

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think Dooku was one of the best leaders of any faction in Star Wars. He didn't really have much in the way of ulterior motives, as the CIS needed to function well, and who's to say if he had the chance, he wouldn't have bested the Republic if he had the chance anyway and fulfilled his dream of removing the bloated bureaucracy of the Republic. Not to mention he was a skilled tactician and leader, and was considered for Jedi Battlemaster, meaning he was at the very least one of the best swordsmen of the Order, if not the best, having mastered all of the forms, and he is the ONLY force user we have seen incorporate the force in melee combat, which is shown to be nigh impossible.

  • @Ratty01394
    @Ratty013946 жыл бұрын

    Of course, Luke also displays a mastery of the most powerful force ability...Plot Armour. Truly a Wondrous ability.

  • @mrver427

    @mrver427

    5 жыл бұрын

    well, if rey was on this list she'd be right at the top by that logic

  • @user-yj3ti9rg7n

    @user-yj3ti9rg7n

    5 жыл бұрын

    Luke as grand Master could make force black holes

  • @vergilsplasticchair7888

    @vergilsplasticchair7888

    4 жыл бұрын

    Дарт Ксенос he meant at the time of return of the Jedi, Luke I agree is the most powerful later but not then

  • @psychoticpurse6579

    @psychoticpurse6579

    4 жыл бұрын

    If hat was taken into consideration. Rey would be on this list

  • @djdoesgaming8282

    @djdoesgaming8282

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes but he forgot to were his plot armor when he went to watch the last Jedi

  • @cirmothe9
    @cirmothe96 жыл бұрын

    I can accept Yoda not in first or second. But beneath Dooku? C'mon.

  • @DraculaCronqvist

    @DraculaCronqvist

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, beneath Dooku. Dooku was a charismatic leader who was almost as powerful as Yoda. Yoda had more power in the force, but his leadership skills are almost non-existent. He flat out *sucks* at leadership.

  • @DraculaCronqvist

    @DraculaCronqvist

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Fictional Subliminals Which is exactly why Clone Wars is a piece of shit and why anybody would hold it up as an example of good Star Wars is a complete mystery.

  • @SweatCookienese

    @SweatCookienese

    4 жыл бұрын

    cirmothe9 because dooku is a beast and is a wise and a great leader

  • @tishaflorence1009

    @tishaflorence1009

    4 жыл бұрын

    I could see dooku being a better lightsaber duelist but not a better force user

  • @qgqsrg1

    @qgqsrg1

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@tishaflorence1009 no one is saying dooku is stronger than yoda but that yoda was a shit leader. in other words he was a strong and wise jedi but a poor leader fixated on past traditions in an era of change. had the jedi been more flexible in their ways, sidious would have never turned anakin nor would he have gotten that much political power.

  • @harleyokeefe5193
    @harleyokeefe51936 жыл бұрын

    Me cause I have the high ground

  • @gregory4349

    @gregory4349

    6 жыл бұрын

    GENERAL KENOBI !

  • @harleyokeefe5193

    @harleyokeefe5193

    6 жыл бұрын

    General Grievous hello there

  • @kiwimid1887

    @kiwimid1887

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not for long. "Blast him!" *At-te fires at kenobi*

  • @thejocker105

    @thejocker105

    6 жыл бұрын

    General Kenobi!!!! You are a bold one.

  • @thesenate9617

    @thesenate9617

    6 жыл бұрын

    Obi-Wan Kenobi no the high ground is a separate entity more powerful than even abeloth you just had a sliver of its power

  • @hexmachine8263
    @hexmachine82636 жыл бұрын

    I still think count dooku is the most interesting out of the bunch.

  • @dillonfeazel3117

    @dillonfeazel3117

    6 жыл бұрын

    GENERAL KAEL I believe he's also more powerful than Yoda. Maybe not as powerful as sidious. Yoda has to use both hands and more concentration to block Dooku's lightening. Yoda struggled to duel Dooku. Dooku's force ability and dueling skills put him above Yoda and Luke in this list.

  • @izzyisdizzy5847

    @izzyisdizzy5847

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dillonfeazel3117 um no yoda toyed with dooku

  • @izzyisdizzy5847

    @izzyisdizzy5847

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dillonfeazel3117 u have Dooku confused with sidious, Yoda only used one hand to block Dooku's lighting

  • @RikkiTikkiTavi290

    @RikkiTikkiTavi290

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dillonfeazel3117 lol sorry but no. Yoda is clearly much stronger.

  • @psychoticpurse6579

    @psychoticpurse6579

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dillonfeazel3117 sorry but you're wrong m8, Yoda only used one hand to block Dooku's lightning and barely exerted any effort and it's clear in the novelisation that Yoda was overwhelming Dooku with a lightsaber as well, hence why he had to distract Yoda too retreat. Plus if Yoda stalemated Dooku with the force, only lost to bad positioning on the senate pod and beat him in the lightsaber duel. So how can Dooku be more powerful than Yoda and not Sidious when Yoda was just is strong if not stronger than Sidious

  • @davidpeters4334
    @davidpeters43346 жыл бұрын

    For your next factions episode, you should do "Which Faction had the best Warrior". For example, the Empire would have Darth Vader, the CIS would have General Grievous, the Rebels would have Luke, and the Republic would have Mace Windu.

  • @jennytalia6724

    @jennytalia6724

    6 жыл бұрын

    arguably the rebel warrior is Leia

  • @davidpeters4334

    @davidpeters4334

    6 жыл бұрын

    how so?

  • @Wallow11
    @Wallow116 жыл бұрын

    I think Palpatine should have had the #1 spot. The points about Luke were good but I really think his attachments were weaknesses as well. Also he was quite careless at times, ignoring promptings from his masters, and I think, the force itself. The fact that Palpatine did all he did and ruled an entire empire really speaks out about his force control. That's just how I feel

  • @dizzydial8081

    @dizzydial8081

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know I'm late on this but if we consider the prequels, Palpatine ruled for quite a long time. Whatever his strategy was for dealing with corruption and cronyism within his empire seemed to have worked quite well.

  • @bobnub8194
    @bobnub81946 жыл бұрын

    "Big Papa Palpatine"

  • @uniwaffle6190
    @uniwaffle61906 жыл бұрын

    it would be good if you did best tactics Rebels: Hit and Run Empire: fear and superior rescourses CIS: sheer numbers and blockades Republic: Heavily skilled soldiers trained from birth.

  • @TK-sh7vl

    @TK-sh7vl

    6 жыл бұрын

    Uniwaffle 61 It depends on the battle scenario

  • @uniwaffle6190

    @uniwaffle6190

    6 жыл бұрын

    Imperial Mapper good point. i guess it depends on attacking/defending. e.g hoth in empire strikes back.

  • @lenkagamine4145

    @lenkagamine4145

    3 жыл бұрын

    Separatists have the best naval and defensive strategy, I'd say republic has the best assault strategy also everything you listed is strategy not tactics I believe.

  • @KnightRaymund
    @KnightRaymund6 жыл бұрын

    "Not the most powerful" is putting it incredibly lightly. He's an amateur compared to any of them. His abilities do not compare.

  • @Vanithoth
    @Vanithoth6 жыл бұрын

    We all know that the Naboo Gungans had the best force users.

  • @franciscolupercio4290

    @franciscolupercio4290

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well force user/sith

  • @amymerz8880

    @amymerz8880

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah jar jar

  • @amymerz8880

    @amymerz8880

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not joking he's a sith

  • @wesleyfravel5149

    @wesleyfravel5149

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bobo Swaggins ah you speak Darth JarJar I presume?

  • @Vanithoth

    @Vanithoth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Do I speak of Darth Jar Jar? Tis but a well documented theroy. But still, tis just a theroy.

  • @datnoob4394
    @datnoob43946 жыл бұрын

    wouldn't palpatine be the most powerful force user in the republic, empire and the cis?

  • @danyheatleyall-star3677

    @danyheatleyall-star3677

    6 жыл бұрын

    dat noob well technically darth tyrannus was involved with the CIS while palpatine merely gave orders to be carried out by him

  • @datnoob4394

    @datnoob4394

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Jets but he still “ruled” the cis if only by proxy

  • @loganford4797

    @loganford4797

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oml Yoda was Stronger than him

  • @raddragon1373

    @raddragon1373

    5 жыл бұрын

    He said 'emperor' palpatine, which means he's taking the palpatine After the republic and cis.

  • @Sandwich13455

    @Sandwich13455

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@raddragon1373 sheev palpatine into emperor palpatine Republic then empire.

  • @conceivebelieveachieve9544
    @conceivebelieveachieve95446 жыл бұрын

    "If so powerful you are why leave."

  • @IIDarkForeverII

    @IIDarkForeverII

    6 жыл бұрын

    Funny how he is the one leaving at the end

  • @IIDarkForeverII

    @IIDarkForeverII

    6 жыл бұрын

    Implying I havent read the book? but thats not the point .He wouldnt have said "failed I have" in his grammatical glory if he got his ass kicked enough

  • @Tyrael1701

    @Tyrael1701

    6 жыл бұрын

    I kinda hated the fight and don't think it should have happened... why did Yoda even run? All that showed up were 2 clones and a big blue smurf twi'lek guy... You never get the feeling that Yoda fought him when he talks to Luke. Just do not underestimate the Emperor, or suffer your father's fate, you will. You think Luke would be more likely to not go if Yoda says Underestimated the Emperor I did, failed did I.

  • @callmev3531
    @callmev35316 жыл бұрын

    7:45, Luke’s victory was not just due to his use of anger and hatred, but also due to Vader’s inner conflict between being able to care for Luke as his son enough to forsake his addiction to the dark side, which had only been strengthened by his need to suppress his guilt and shame of his past life. He was adamant either way to make sure that he did not have to kill his son, but first attempted to satisfy his dark side urges to continue the Sith cycle of destroying the master with an apprentice and being focused on ruling the galaxy. Once Luke’s life was in immediate danger, he reacted by saving him from Palpatine.

  • @KJ-hr2ou
    @KJ-hr2ou6 жыл бұрын

    correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading somewhere that George Lucas said that in Luke's prime (which I guess is probably after the OT anyway) that Luke was the most powerful force user of all time

  • @thyreradim7885

    @thyreradim7885

    6 жыл бұрын

    adn that is completely legends which got retconned with the newer movies.

  • @Raptormon132
    @Raptormon1326 жыл бұрын

    Hey, EckhartsLadder. I just came up with a "Which is the best" topic you should do, and it was inspired by this one you did. You should do one on the 3 Jedi Classes. The 3 Jedi classes are Jedi Guardian, Jedi Consular, Jedi Sentinel. And you could discuss what you think the best is out of the 3 classes.

  • @alexsandoval9827
    @alexsandoval98276 жыл бұрын

    I don't think this list really addresses the most powerful force user, it's more like how they used the force.

  • @barghestblue731

    @barghestblue731

    6 жыл бұрын

    He isn't doing the most POWERFUL force user, he's doing the BEST force user FOR THEIR FACTION. He openly states that Sidious and Yoda are the two most powerful on this list.

  • @123455thatguy

    @123455thatguy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Indeed if it was power alone then this list would be a very simple one.

  • @PathsUnwritten
    @PathsUnwritten6 жыл бұрын

    6:52 "He allowed himself to BE manipulated ... and eventually BEheaded." haha!

  • @matteozambetti4373
    @matteozambetti43736 жыл бұрын

    I feel that count dooku was a strong and capable leader

  • @kennethkates3140
    @kennethkates31406 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna rate mine as Empire, Republic, CIS, Rebellion.

  • @very_smug4748

    @very_smug4748

    3 жыл бұрын

    mine is empire, cis, rebellion and republic

  • @jwb_666
    @jwb_6666 жыл бұрын

    Everyone forgets about the Sith Shrine that clouded the Jedi during the prequels...

  • @zkapsh

    @zkapsh

    6 жыл бұрын

    John W. Black but how else can they make jedi look bad.

  • @izzyisdizzy5847

    @izzyisdizzy5847

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's not Canon anymore

  • @user-ms9wy9to6i

    @user-ms9wy9to6i

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@izzyisdizzy5847 SO. WHAT.

  • @KingofChicago17.

    @KingofChicago17.

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@izzyisdizzy5847 just because Disney spent a lot of money doesn't change previous lore.

  • @Ebroglio2

    @Ebroglio2

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@izzyisdizzy5847 the Sith Shine beneath the temple IS still canon. It was referenced in one of the first novels of the Disney era - Tarkin.

  • @silversurfer8818
    @silversurfer88186 жыл бұрын

    There were more than ten thousand jedi in the order, if that large cumulative number couldn't foresee the end there would make no difference who sat as the grandmaster. Yoda was far more competent than *any* other force user before or after. Anakin was never meant to last, his memories being a slave and the loss of his mother was the ember burning in his mind till it burst and set everything aflame. The only thing that could have changed his faith, would be if the order found him during his infancy, rather than a 9 year old.

  • @SIRslipperyasp91

    @SIRslipperyasp91

    6 жыл бұрын

    Silversurfer I don't think Anakin's fall was inevitable if Palpatine wasn't pulling the strings. So do we count that against Yoda, or in favor of Palpatine?

  • @silversurfer8818

    @silversurfer8818

    6 жыл бұрын

    We could perceive Palpatine taking advantage of a weak minded boy, or even Yoda for allowing Kenobi to train Anakin by disregarding his age and the fear the entire council could sense. However, Qui-gon jinn may have caused most if not all of the disaster that led to the fall. If he never brought Anakin to the council he would never have been trained. But Qui-gon's teachings had already been imprinted onto Kenobi and would have trained Anakin without the council's approval. who would you blame?

  • @HalfDemonInuyasha

    @HalfDemonInuyasha

    6 жыл бұрын

    Qui-Gon actually would have been the best teacher for Anakin. Qui-Gon was shown to be someone with a much more open mind and someone who was willing to stretch the Jedi Code without actually breaking it. This would allow him to train Anakin and adapt to him being a nine year old with more emotional development and with attachments rather than if Anakin had been indoctrinated as a baby. Obi-Wan, however, was someone who, like most other Jedi, was a stickler for the ancient ways of thinking rather than thinking in a more progressive and modern way that allowed any change. This is why, even as an adult, he constantly clashed with Qui-Gon whenever Qui-Gon acted in a way that, in Obi-Wan's and other Jedis' minds, wasn't "fitting" of the traditional Jedi Knight, and that attitude carried over to his relationship with Anakin and that caused them to often clash. According to Obi-Wan in Episode I, Qui-Gon's methods and thinking were really the only thing keeping him from being appointed as a Jedi Council member, despite his skill and experience, because they clashed with the Council's traditionalist thinking.

  • @michaelstubbs6642
    @michaelstubbs66426 жыл бұрын

    Yoda, Luke, Count Dooku, Big Papa Palpatine. That got a laugh out of me

  • @andyrihn1
    @andyrihn16 жыл бұрын

    Luke didn’t really have as much of an active role in the Rebellion though. Yoda was a high-ranking general. Dooku and Palpatine were heads of state. Luke was a middle ranked officer at best who would come and go whenever personal stuff came up

  • @Chan-qk9eh

    @Chan-qk9eh

    3 жыл бұрын

    He was the only force user thats really famous tho

  • @the_coveted_one2163

    @the_coveted_one2163

    2 жыл бұрын

    Luke was a general tho, pay attention to beginning of empire strikes back

  • @andyrihn1

    @andyrihn1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@the_coveted_one2163 commander

  • @ahopefor

    @ahopefor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well I mean he destroyed the first Death Star which resulted in a massive boost of Morale and membership and helped turn his father back to the light side and as such brought about the death of Sidious indirectly, so yeah I'd say he played quite an active role.

  • @darthauthorone6329
    @darthauthorone63296 жыл бұрын

    If you take into account the Last Jedi, Luke's flaws lead to Kylo Ren. If you understand that no one is perfect and they all gotta fall, Palpatine/Darth Sidious rules all. He made the biggest difference for the longest stretch over his lifetime (Yoda lived longer, because he's an alien, but he accomplished less with his time than Palpatine did with his). Also Darth Sidious and Yoda basically tied in their battle with each other force power-wise. Sidious is obviously more powerful than Duku. Although Luke never really turned to Sidious he would have died if Darth Vader/Anakin did not save him by killing Sidious. It was not Luke who killed Sidious but Vader/Anakin who was Sidious's apprentice and was expected to someday find a way to murder SIdious (as is the way of the Sith, so Sidious trained his the one who would bring him down - a testimony to his power).

  • @lordwhoopi9132

    @lordwhoopi9132

    6 жыл бұрын

    Terry Cupboards Because she has the most plot armour of any star wars character yet. She could probably destroy the death star single handedly, and then people would defend it by saying. " she beat up thugs in the desert so yeah, she can destroy the death star."

  • @ahopefor

    @ahopefor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lordwhoopi9132 Laughs in Starkiller

  • @ArikGST
    @ArikGST6 жыл бұрын

    I believe in one on one combat on neutral ground Yoda beats Sidious. In terms of scale both Yoda and Sidious were able to take out entire armies by themselves, both were masters of battlemeditation and both were cunning strategists when commanding armies. I personally think that Yoda is the greater lightsaber combatant, I mean there are repeated mentions that he is the greatest duelist of the Jedi Order and that he was better than Dooku and Windu, and in the novelization of ROTS he even disarmed Sidious which still makes sense when looking at the movie, and Sidious only won the fight due to positioning. On a side note I would love to see a Yoda story with him in his prime going all out so we finally get a true impression on Yoda. I know it might take away from the mystique of the character but that`s mostly gone anyways so lets have fun and show OP Yoda being OP.

  • @psychoticpurse6579

    @psychoticpurse6579

    6 жыл бұрын

    German Survivalist i doubt yoda’s a better duellist than Palpatine, considering Sidious was a master of every form of lightsaber combat

  • @ArikGST

    @ArikGST

    6 жыл бұрын

    Josh Murphy Yoda was also a master of every form and in both encounters portrait (the fantasy fight in clone wars and in ROTS) Yoda disarms Sidious. This makes me think he's the better duelist of the two....

  • @imperialfish454
    @imperialfish4546 жыл бұрын

    I have an idea for a factions compared: Which faction is most unrealistic? Like, what are the odds (using established in-universe logic) that the Rebels actually succeed? But at the same time, what are the odds that the Empire ever is founded? That the Republic lasts as long as it did? That the CIS is manipulated (or sub that one out for the First Order)? This isn't a simple "plot armor" comparison, since the rebels would win by a mile, but logically, how realistic is each faction's actions and...well, in some cases, existence?

  • @disanders817

    @disanders817

    6 жыл бұрын

    ImperialFish i second this

  • @addicted_to_strawlberrysho9697

    @addicted_to_strawlberrysho9697

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think that The Empire are the most unrealistic, why would everyone join the cause of an ugly guy who wan'ts to rule the galaxy.

  • @Dalipsingh111111
    @Dalipsingh1111116 жыл бұрын

    A Jedi Temple Guard VS. A Praetorian Guard.

  • @docilecrocodile6362

    @docilecrocodile6362

    6 жыл бұрын

    temple gaurd

  • @BuckingBadger

    @BuckingBadger

    6 жыл бұрын

    Temple Guard we haven't seen the full potential of the Praetorian guard so it's too early to tell

  • @envrnmntlsm

    @envrnmntlsm

    4 жыл бұрын

    temple guard because they can use the force

  • @badcat6628
    @badcat66286 жыл бұрын

    Galactic war flood vs Protoss, I think that would be very interesting, specially if the flood could use the other factions in Starcraft 2

  • @Monadshavenowindows
    @Monadshavenowindows6 жыл бұрын

    1. Darth Jar-Jar 2. Darth Sidious 3. Yoda 4. Luke Skywalker 5. Count Dooku

  • @seanscott5331

    @seanscott5331

    6 жыл бұрын

    1. Sand 2.podracing 3.spinning 4 Garth jar jar

  • @xxcbossxxyt6574

    @xxcbossxxyt6574

    6 жыл бұрын

    1. Darth Jar-Jar 2. Master Yoda 3. Darth Sidious 4.Count Dooku

  • @loganford4797

    @loganford4797

    6 жыл бұрын

    1. Yoda

  • @JoeSmith-zm9ur

    @JoeSmith-zm9ur

    6 жыл бұрын

    1. Darth Jar-Jar 2. Whoever Darth Jar-Jar says is second. 3. Whoever Darth Jar-Jar says is third. 4. Whoever Darth Jar-Jar says is fourth. 5. Whoever Darth Jar-Jar says is fifth.

  • @nubnub3119

    @nubnub3119

    6 жыл бұрын

    Seems legit

  • @shadowoflight1675
    @shadowoflight16756 жыл бұрын

    I would swap Yoda and Dooku, while Yoda certainly had a big hand in the fall of the Republic, Dooku was actively working against the Separatists, the ROTS novelization states that Dooku's plan was to surrender to the Republic and frame the Jedi Order for his actions, the Separatists were doomed from the start.

  • @faisalfarooq6967
    @faisalfarooq69676 жыл бұрын

    I like how all 4 of these people were trained by each other. Palpating trained Dooku yoda trained luke

  • @rustedgreatsword4902

    @rustedgreatsword4902

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yoda also trained dooku, probably more than sidous did.

  • @envrnmntlsm

    @envrnmntlsm

    4 жыл бұрын

    yoda trained dooku as a jedi. he was his padawan.

  • @bowb5880
    @bowb58806 жыл бұрын

    in the description it says "we examine the Force Users of the Republic, Galactic Empire, Rebel Alliance and Galactic Republic. ....So there's two different types of the republic

  • @jongapler4877
    @jongapler48776 жыл бұрын

    I think you're using inaccurate terminology. You should be describing these characters as the "best force sensitive leaders" as opposed to "best force users" because it's reasonable to assume that as far as the movies go, Yoda was the most powerful user followed by Sidious, then Dooku, then Luke. Your rankings are based on their leadership skills, not their force abilities which is slightly confusing when your video is titled "Who is the best force user" And also I think it's worth mentioning that Darth Bane's Rule of Two hinged on the Sith being able to evade the Jedi's perception which they did for most of their existence by maintaining distance from the Jedi and refraining from large displays of power. You can't hold it against the Jedi for not being able to find two Sith in a galaxy of hundreds of trillions, who trained specifically to avoid detection by the Jedi.

  • @xavierprotocols

    @xavierprotocols

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not really the Emperor kicked Yoda's ass so bad he went into hiding.

  • @sergeantquackers7815

    @sergeantquackers7815

    4 жыл бұрын

    xavierprotocols ...thats not what happened at all🤦‍♂️

  • @Crispy_9678

    @Crispy_9678

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@xavierprotocols its explicitly shown in the movie that sidious was trying to run away from Yoda. You could see the look on his face that he was dealing with someone clearly stronger than him

  • @gradh3123
    @gradh31236 жыл бұрын

    Your rundown of Yoda's pros and cons was great

  • @HalfDemonInuyasha

    @HalfDemonInuyasha

    6 жыл бұрын

    And it clearly shows how, by becoming one with The Force, Yoda gained a much greater understanding of things, which is why he is so chill about the old Jedi texts supposedly being destroyed (actually weren't, but yeah) and whatnot. What a lot of Jedi (and Sith) had forgotten is that The Force doesn't pick sides. The whole "Light" and "Dark" labeling is simply stupid because it's ALL part of the same neutral Force. It comes down to the individual and how they utilize their abilities with it. Like the Force Push is largely seen more as a "Light" side move, but it can still be used in an offensive manner, not just defensive. Heck, Obi-Wan used it as such against General Grievous in Episode II, so does that suddenly make it a "Dark" side move? If not, then that's a big double standard. The fact that Jedi can fall to become Dark Jedi or Sith shows that just because you practice the "Light" side doesn't automatically make you "good", and that Sith can turn away from the "Dark" side shows that using the "Dark" side doesn't automatically make you "evil". At least in the Legends timeline, it's actually been shown several times that those who do get involved with both sides (without losing themselves) actually become *much* stronger because of it - ones like Luke himself, Kyle Katarn, Corran Horn, and other New Jedi Order members.

  • @jminatorgaming1494
    @jminatorgaming14946 жыл бұрын

    Wait a second isn’t mace windu more powerful because he actually beat sidious and took out an entire army of droids in Star Wars clone wars

  • @johnchoi4473

    @johnchoi4473

    4 жыл бұрын

    No windu is way below everyone mentioned here. If you read the books you will see why. Windu is still a badass though. My favorite

  • @birbddhaGodOfBirbs
    @birbddhaGodOfBirbs6 жыл бұрын

    I have an idea. Military Leaders compared (General Grievous, Grand Moff Tarkin, Captain Rex, Admiral Ackbar)

  • @holoqofholoqqia9503

    @holoqofholoqqia9503

    6 жыл бұрын

    Birbddha Could you have used someone else other than Rex? I mean, he is just a Captain in the end after all his amazing tactical abilities. Cody would have been a better pick because he is an actual strategist. He also could actually be compared to the others you stated, because he isn't completely out ranked by them. Still, the best pick for the Republic should be Obi-Wan.

  • @thesenate9617

    @thesenate9617

    6 жыл бұрын

    Birbddha nope thrawn should take tarkins place tarkin sucks

  • @towldllr4854

    @towldllr4854

    6 жыл бұрын

    #KrennicyousuckImgonnatakecontrolofthedeathstarfromyoulikeItotallydidnthavecontrolofitinthefirstplace

  • @darkwolf4434

    @darkwolf4434

    6 жыл бұрын

    Birbddha Tarkin was more of a politician than a tactician he was working with expanding the imperial militairy in the Outer Rim

  • @birbddhaGodOfBirbs

    @birbddhaGodOfBirbs

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ok, fine. (General Grievous, Grand Admiral Thrawn, Commander Cody, Admiral Ackbar.) That better?

  • @bobkrachit7774
    @bobkrachit77746 жыл бұрын

    This is about how people lead their faction, right? Luke didn't lead. And you make the point about how Luke was "everything you would want from a light side user". Then by the same logic, Sidious would be everything you could ever want from a dark side user. He was ambitious, cunning, powerful, and totally evil. On the other hand, Luke ignored Jedi doctrine, gave into his anger at times, and his impulsiveness almost ruined the whole plan in Episode 5.

  • @izzyisdizzy5847

    @izzyisdizzy5847

    5 жыл бұрын

    He said "Luke is everything you want from a force user" not "Luke is everything you would want from a light side user"

  • @jeffersondemott2125
    @jeffersondemott21256 жыл бұрын

    I think that Palpatine didn't actually positively influence the republic or empire, and in his hubris he set up the empire to self-inpload upon his death.

  • @reece7324
    @reece73246 жыл бұрын

    I feel like one of the few people who actually REALLY likes the Confederacy

  • @sc_art5408

    @sc_art5408

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rad Reece Yes. All hail the Empire!

  • @user-ms9wy9to6i

    @user-ms9wy9to6i

    5 жыл бұрын

    Confederacy is awesome. I like how it's not following that black or white formula which other factions are following. For example it wants freedom like the Alliance but it's violent like Empire

  • @samenneking7930
    @samenneking79306 жыл бұрын

    Which faction had the most polite etiquette/protocol droids?

  • @DenDhur
    @DenDhur6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I wish more of the Jedi were like Luke in the prequals. His order in Legends really connected with the galaxy and his disciples had a more open view on life in general.

  • @Comet5551
    @Comet55516 жыл бұрын

    For a vehicle vs episode: All Terrain Anti-Aircraft (AT-AA) vs Type-52 Anti-Aircraft Artillery (AA Wraith) For a factions compared episode: Which faction had the best repulsor lift tank

  • @sicmanjmg1348
    @sicmanjmg13486 жыл бұрын

    I have an idea for faction compared. The best pilots. Which faction has the most skilled and well-trained pilots for their ships(x-wings,tie fighters,republic ships,etc.) but I think it would be hard for the separatist.

  • @wolfgangvonriva7168

    @wolfgangvonriva7168

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rebel Alliance, Republic, Empire, CIS. ;)

  • @sicmanjmg1348

    @sicmanjmg1348

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thyre Radim yea now that I think about it this was easier than I thought it would be.

  • @grayagent5846

    @grayagent5846

    6 жыл бұрын

    1)imperials 2)Republic 3)Separatists 4)rebels

  • @thyreradim7885

    @thyreradim7885

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Gray Agent, your so dumb XD or just a fanboy, like have you never seen an imp pilot?? most rebels had literally no flight experience meaning that imps suck so bad that they lose to untrained pilots who are just naturally better. (it almost seems like the empire only accepts the worst of the worst, as in the worst shots and the worst pilots and the worst officers literally ever.)

  • @grayagent5846

    @grayagent5846

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thyre Radim Man your so stupid XD. You need to read the comics and lore about the imperials. Please don't talk about star wars with the knowledge you have. I bet you never watched the movie's and went with the bandwagon and if you did, the movies don't give the full details. The main reason why the tie pilots die is because they're in the tie fighters. It has no shields and hyper drive, it was made to be cheap and fast so it can be deployed in mass numbers since that's the navy's strategy. Please read the comics so your small knowledge about star wars can be expanded idiot. 😑

  • @kennethkates3140
    @kennethkates31406 жыл бұрын

    A list for you to choose. Like and comment your choice. Thanks 😁 1) Could Halo's Reach survive a Zerg invasion?(Galactic Versus) 2) Behemoth Battlecruiser vs Venator Star Destroyer. Who would win? 3) 2 Harrower Dreadnaughts vs 1 Imperial Star Destroyer. Who would win? 4) Top 5 Imperial commanders from canon. 5) Best Military Commander. Factions Compared. 6) Imperial 1 Star Destroyer vs Imperial II Star Destroyer. Who would win?

  • @norad_clips
    @norad_clips6 жыл бұрын

    While the Emperor was undeniably more powerful when Luke confronted him, I think you made the right choice given the criteria for this video.

  • @SirSpangler

    @SirSpangler

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't the criteria which force user was the best leader? I still don't get how Luke won, he never led the rebellion!

  • @norad_clips

    @norad_clips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cameron Spangler He held the rank of commander. If the criteria was that he had to be the highest authority for his faction, only Palpatine would even be on this list. Yoda was a grand master, but he certainly wasn’t the Republic’s leader, and Dooku took orders from Palpatine.

  • @marioguy640
    @marioguy6406 жыл бұрын

    Love the list, but in my opinion I think Yoda and Dooku need to be switched. At least Yoda wasn't just a pawn in a bigger leaders game like dooku was

  • @SkiddyGaming

    @SkiddyGaming

    6 жыл бұрын

    marioguy640 Yoda was also a pawn in another leaders big game... the same one as Dooku in fact, lol. He and the jedi order served "Chancellor Palpatine" and the "Senate of the Republic"... the only difference between Yoda and Dooku in that regard is that Dooku knew he was a pawn, he just didn't know the end game... Yoda knew neither😂

  • @AJ-jn5oc
    @AJ-jn5oc6 жыл бұрын

    The most powerful force user of all time is George Lucas.

  • @generalgrievous4341
    @generalgrievous43416 жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing as a Jedi who doesn’t shackle himself. They are unfeeling fools. The scourge of the galaxy, pawns of a corrupt Republic. And that fool Sidious could hardly run without his precious force. He was as bad a leader as he was an athlete. My master Dooku, however, was a noble man, representing everything a warrior should be. He was not a coward, nor was he as full of himself as Sidious and Yoda. He used his emotions to fuel himself, yet kept a calm demeanour. He offered wise council in how to adapt to my new life, and was generous to my people, saving them from the poverty the Jedi forced on them.

  • @thunderspark1536

    @thunderspark1536

    6 жыл бұрын

    General Grievous both sides of the force are shackled. The light side needs immense concentration And as the video said, refuse to acknowledge fear and other emotions. The dark side is heavily negative to the brain and body, and they are so evil as only used negative emotions. Using a combination of both would remove the flaws of both sides.

  • @lancetennenbaum2509

    @lancetennenbaum2509

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dooku is my favorite force user.

  • @SuperWindsage

    @SuperWindsage

    6 жыл бұрын

    he actively helped kill your wife and destroy you. also he kept on doing changes to your brain.

  • @generalgrievous4341

    @generalgrievous4341

    6 жыл бұрын

    SATmaster728 Scholly The Sith embrace nature, using their emotions both positive and negative to free themselves. The very Sith code says as much.

  • @generalgrievous4341

    @generalgrievous4341

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wind Sage Dragon *It was the Huk who killed Ronderu! It was the Jedi who destroyed me! Dooku saved my life! He brought me salvation and vengeance! You know nothing of my past and are not worthy to even speak of it!*

  • @natepolidoro4565
    @natepolidoro45656 жыл бұрын

    You should add the Resistance and the First Order, especially that we now have two movies and some books to draw information from.

  • @ylh2019

    @ylh2019

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think that'll have to wait until after Episode IX.

  • @tchop6839
    @tchop68396 жыл бұрын

    Yoda 4th? He had many flaws, but he was extremely powerful in the force. And Luke is not that powerful. Sure, he doesn’t have political flaws like the rest, but he wasn’t that good of a Jedi. He had the right mindset, but that’s it

  • @Benjamin1986980

    @Benjamin1986980

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yoda was a great Jedi Consular but he was not what the Republic needed. And it was the flaws in the order that he built that really caused the downfall of both the Republic and the Jedi. Dooku may have been a pawn who was used, however Yoda was the one who actively failed.

  • @jameson1239

    @jameson1239

    6 жыл бұрын

    George Lucas said that in Luke's prime he was the most powerful force user ever

  • @thyreradim7885

    @thyreradim7885

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Jameson Dymond, legends luke and that was retconned after SWTOR KOTOR and the newer movies, with legends luke being able to literally get hit by a turbolaser and survive and also being able to destroy planets and the most canon luke can do is fucking project a hologram, de f***.

  • @RikkiTikkiTavi290

    @RikkiTikkiTavi290

    5 жыл бұрын

    Legends Luke > Yoda. Disney canon Luke and the sequels are so thin and ill-thought out they might as well not exist for real Star Wars fans.

  • @ericwalsh2954

    @ericwalsh2954

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you forgetting the fact legend's luke could literally fight at such speed it looked like he had 1000 lightsabers and use basically every force ability he wanted

  • @rulingmoss5599
    @rulingmoss55996 жыл бұрын

    1. Palpatine 2. Yoda 3. Luke 4. Dooku

  • @bankable3574

    @bankable3574

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dooko is the best with a light sabers, but that's about all. Luke has amazing control over his powers however his powers are also weaker. Then comes Yoda and Palpatine they are both equally powerful in the force and in leading a faction, Yoda peacefully, and Palpatine brute fully. So I would rank it like this. Palpatine and Yoda are tied for first, then Luke is right behind them, and Dooko is... well let's not hate on him too much I mean to be fair he was probably in the top 3 if not number one light Saber weirder in the galaxy. 1. Yoda+Palpatine 2. Luke (right behind them) 2. Dooko

  • @UncleMikeDrop
    @UncleMikeDrop6 жыл бұрын

    With this new trilogy I have trouble watching The Return of the Jedi. Knowing what the official Canon has done to his character.

  • @UncleMikeDrop

    @UncleMikeDrop

    6 жыл бұрын

    Terry Cupboards funny how we never see any of that except for brief anecdotal flashbacks. He spent the majority of his screen time being a cantankerous sniveling coward. Instead of having a good sequence react she trains Rey. And then when he saves the day he doesn't even bother to show up. He just sent a projection and doesn't matter no because he dies anyway so why not show up in person? I don't care what happened off screen. There used to be a time when characters actually had to be developed over the course of the actual movie. I never said they ruined his character, but they did tarnish his Legacy.

  • @thyreradim7885

    @thyreradim7885

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Terry Cupboards, Mark Hammel and George Lucas both have said blatanly that this new luke is not the one they had planned and was very different and "off".

  • @UncleMikeDrop

    @UncleMikeDrop

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thyre Radim I agree Mark Hamill and George Lucas are blameless in this. If you look at Mark Hamill during the interviews for both the force awakens and The Last Jedi he looks like he feels dirty. I thoroughly dislike how the studio has treated the Old Guard. Oh well I guess Mark Hamill can still have the credit of being the best Joker. No Studio can take that away from him.

  • @TheDemigans
    @TheDemigans6 жыл бұрын

    I really can't understand why you would think that the legends numbers of the laser canons are stupendously OP and shouldn't be used (and they shouldn't because it's ridiculous), but that Palpatine's force-storm can be used. It's more over the top than the "my laser canon fires mini nukes", especially since it actually is able to actually heavily damage and destroy capitol ships in one go compared to the hundreds of shots that the lasers need. From best to worst: Yoda, because the fact that Sidious rose to power wasn't his fault alone. Yoda is around 900 years old when he dies and has trained Jedi for 800. That's a long time of peace and prosperity. But even as a force user when you have to look through the dark side of the force on a GALACTIC SCALE and try to find 2 Sith between millions of planets and billions upon billions of people it becomes nigh impossible. Also keep in mind that the force tries to find balance, like we see in the latest movies where the force even just dumps power on someone to balance out the dark side. Now imagine that in reverse: the entire Jedi order balanced out vs 2 Sith. The fact that Yoda kept peace for so long and even held his own somewhat during his confrontation with Sidious is a testament to how good he really was. Vader, he might start out as a whiny little crap but by the end of his life he's accomplished a great deal, such as hunting down Jedi and betraying his master (which he has been working towards since very early, there's a ton of questionable things he does unless you realize that he's actually intending to harm the Emperors plans). On an individual level, Vader could arguably beat Yoda, but Yoda has some more years of duty behind him and less faction-switching. Palpatine. Yes he toppled the previous republic, but the groundwork for this was a thousand year planning by other Sith. Once in power Palpatine did create a ruthless state but he was unable to stop the Rebel alliance, in fact he fosters so much hate and animosity that the Rebel Alliance is formed in the first place. He also focuses his attention to arguably wasteful projects, like the Death Star. They could have doubled or tripled the Star Destroyer fleet for the same cost, or build weapons that wipe the planet's surface clean instead of obliterating livingspace. Palpatine is arguably incompetent, his only reason for gaining power and staying in power being his immense force strength rather than his political prowess. Luke. What does he actually do in all of the canon? He destroys the first Death Star, sure, but he does that with a single force-shot, rather than some extreme competence in the force. He ignores Yoda's advice, he brings himself and his friends repeatedly in danger by his actions, he misjudges people like Jaba, despite saying he's a Jedi Master he get his hand shot on Jaba's barge... The only big thing that Luke really manages to pull off after the Death Star is convincing his father to come back to the light. He has no hand in the destruction for the second Death Star (although for some reason many people state that he does).

  • @zkapsh

    @zkapsh

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul Verbeek if people are going to criticize Yoda not being able 2 sith we should be able to do the same with the Sith not being able to fi d Yoda and obi one after being able to kill so many other jedi. Not to mention Yoda and when Luke gets older they are able to except their failures and learn from them, Yoda explains this in tlj.

  • @applechomper6514
    @applechomper65144 жыл бұрын

    Rise of Skywalker: comes out Palpatine: UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!

  • @NintendoRiit
    @NintendoRiit6 жыл бұрын

    You should include the first order in some of your videos

  • @mella4376
    @mella43766 жыл бұрын

    I think your premise is fundamentally flawed: if we are taking Luke at his best (before he could go on to become the mess he was in VII), then we should take Palpatine at the end of ep III, his finest hour, rather than after 20 years of incrementally trickier management of the empire.

  • @shadowwarrior2371

    @shadowwarrior2371

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lilin agreed

  • @allnamesaretakenful

    @allnamesaretakenful

    6 жыл бұрын

    He wasn't taking Luke at his best. He made that clear.

  • @mella4376

    @mella4376

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's an assertion he made, clearly somewhat in clash with what we see in canon. The point his that he said that Palps started out great and became sloppy in his last days, but didn't analyse the same arc with Luke and just looked at his successes, so the comparison isn't really fair :)

  • @infinitesheldon5710

    @infinitesheldon5710

    6 жыл бұрын

    You bring up the mess Luke was in VII, but apparently you forgot that this list was Legends only. Luke goes on to become the most powerful Jedi of all time in Legends, with some truly impressive feats to his name. So while Palpatine slowly worsened the Empire, Luke only continued to strengthen the Rebellion-turned-New Republic over time in Legends.

  • @mella4376

    @mella4376

    6 жыл бұрын

    Legends still includes canon though, as shown in the video, otherwise the stuff displayed in the movies shouldn't count... I suppose our definitions of Legends differ hence my confusion.

  • @jedisaurus7765
    @jedisaurus77656 жыл бұрын

    Factions-based, I agree with your list, but from an individual perspective, removing the context of the factions, I would put Palpatine at 1, Yoda at 2, Luke at 3, and Dooku at 4.

  • @muscularclassrepresentativ5663

    @muscularclassrepresentativ5663

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justin Cloeren We're talking about legends dude, if you are assessing individual power, then Luke always wins every time, he was basically God there by the end

  • @jedisaurus7765

    @jedisaurus7765

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tom Danner You’re ignoring the fact that Eck is looking at these characters at specific times in their lives. I am too. Luke in his prime is obviously the most powerful, but at the end of Return of Jedi, he’s not nearly as strong.

  • @gavinbroderick7066
    @gavinbroderick70666 жыл бұрын

    You're videos are so well made and are consistently good. You earned my sub

  • @SirSpangler
    @SirSpangler6 жыл бұрын

    But...Luke didn't lead. The video was about which force users were the best leaders. Luke never led anything. So how is he first?

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden46 жыл бұрын

    Dooku for the win. No one can beat Christopher lee!

  • @Erika-gn1tv

    @Erika-gn1tv

    6 жыл бұрын

    Except for, you know, age.

  • @oliverlaw8540
    @oliverlaw85406 жыл бұрын

    this wasn't really a look at the force, more of looking at pros and cons in their factions.

  • @Game_Hedgehog
    @Game_Hedgehog6 жыл бұрын

    Here’s a suggestion Venator class star destroyer vs the unsc Epoch class heavy carrier

  • @romanace3432
    @romanace34326 жыл бұрын

    Kyle katarn wipes out entire bases without using the force.

  • @benredmond8215
    @benredmond82156 жыл бұрын

    Dp20 frigate vs Brahatok gunship Rebel alliance fleet at Scarif vs Plo Koons fleet against the Malevolence Thrawns fleet at Attalon vs CIS Fleet at Kamino MC75 cruiser vs Secutor star destroyer Mandadator IV dreadnought vs asertor/executor super star destroyer 7th try EckhartsLadder plz bring back the versus series thanks

  • @generichuman5930
    @generichuman59306 жыл бұрын

    High Templar(Starcraft) vs Jedi/Sith Raynor's Raiders(Starcraft) vs Resistance Terran Dominion(Starcraft) vs Galactic Republic/New Republic Protoss(Starcraft) vs Covenant Zerg (Starcraft) vs Empire Protoss(Starcraft) vs CIS United Koprulu Sector(Starcraft) vs United Star Wars Galaxy 62nd try. I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!

  • @vexingrabbit1824

    @vexingrabbit1824

    6 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts on your comment. High templar would probably be a bit stronger than jedi and maybe even the sith because of his powers to wipe out armys in secs. Raynor's Raiders wins over Resistance since Raynor won against the Dominion which is way beyond anything in starwars. Srly, Just the Zerg alone would take over the starwars galaxy. Is this a Joke? Terran Dominion greatly overpowers anything the Republic can do. Have you seen those Space Marines in their armor and big guns? or Ghost and their nukes? I say Covenant has an edge against the protoss since they lose their home world and it's race is declining but that can go either way.

  • @generichuman5930

    @generichuman5930

    6 жыл бұрын

    Zero Human Protoss vs covenant, each at the height of their power Protoss have spear of adun, the entire golden armada, which was the biggest fleet ever assembled and had several motherships, each of which had thousands of soldiers on board and could wipe out entire fleets with black holes and destroy entire cities with a single shot, purifier project/cybros station(purifier beam), greater technological feats(creating black holes, manipulation of spacetime, etc.) Covenant probably has more ships, but superweapons and superior tech make it an easy win for protoss Also, I think republic has a chance vs dominion, based on what we see in Starcraft, the dominion has more powerful ships but a smaller fleet than the republic Anti capital ship starfighters like Vikings might make up for it tho Just because raynor's raiders beat the dominion doesn't mean they win outright The resistance did destroy Starkiller base(probably plot armor, but it still happened) and both sides have similar amounts of capital ships Other than that, I agree with your analysis

  • @vexingrabbit1824

    @vexingrabbit1824

    6 жыл бұрын

    well I'll give it 50/50. The covenant out numbers the protoss by far so they can invade and take over planets. The protoss are unable to invade and take over planets like the covenant can. They have limited manpower so the protoss would have to fight that war defensively. While a single protoss warrior would be able to probably take on multiple covenant since protoss warriors are better than Elites/Brutes but however can be overwhelmed by the Covenant's forces numbers. Mainly the Protoss would have to use defensive tactics in the ground battles and hit and run with their space fleet since Protoss space fleet is more advance and able to hit them hard and fast and run. The Covanant's fleets out numbers them so they can overwhelm them and drop their forces in large numbers on planets. Tho I do suspect the protoss having better commanders and leaders than the covanant's forces which can plan great tactics against the Covanant. it can go either way 50/50.

  • @aleksatrifunovic9227
    @aleksatrifunovic92276 жыл бұрын

    You could compare the support craft of each faction. For example you could compare the CR-90 (rebels) Arquintince (republic) and so on

  • @natelandherr5202
    @natelandherr52026 жыл бұрын

    *takes in a huge deep breath* WHAT

  • @Erika-gn1tv
    @Erika-gn1tv6 жыл бұрын

    I think my own list is almost entirely the other way around.

  • @nicholash3657
    @nicholash36576 жыл бұрын

    Im going to go with Darth Vader even though he wasn't an option. We never saw his full potential in my opinion. He died very young compared to everyone else on this list and he was more powerful than was Dooku for sure. Vader was also deemed the chosen one.

  • @joey8062

    @joey8062

    6 жыл бұрын

    i kind of liked the other ones more but I see what you mean.

  • @IMPERIALPTY210

    @IMPERIALPTY210

    5 жыл бұрын

    If the Emperor and Vader got in to it (say cause Vader found out how the Emperor lied to him all this time) and the safety valves blew off Vader's temper Palpatine wouldn't have stood an ice cube's chance a chance hell (and he knew it).

  • @emoeblk293
    @emoeblk2936 жыл бұрын

    Examine the chosen one through the eras. Anakin, raven, Luke, rey

  • @MrRandomcommentguy
    @MrRandomcommentguy4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, very insightful to not equate power with quality.

  • @DrewBisthebestdealwithit
    @DrewBisthebestdealwithit6 жыл бұрын

    You should hold one of the voting things at the beginning of each video, so that they can have their ideas first

  • @genewilcox6022
    @genewilcox60226 жыл бұрын

    I just can agree with luke coming over sidious... he single handedly took down the jedi order at the peak of there power and ruled with an iron fist. Only reason he even died is because he was blinded by rage and forgot about Vader. Luke is the hero but u just can't touch sidious when it comes to force users and politics!

  • @artloverivy
    @artloverivy6 жыл бұрын

    Oh I was really anticipating this one, thank you 🙏🏼

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh97816 жыл бұрын

    Eck, you always ask for new vid ideas, here is mine: A vid about those prototype ships you usually exclude from your "Best of" series. Like that Star Destroyer that carries a Death Star superlaser. You know, the unique ships that do not fit any regular category.

  • @alpha_egg2328
    @alpha_egg23286 жыл бұрын

    Could the Death Star blow up Starkiller base 1

  • @TK-sh7vl

    @TK-sh7vl

    6 жыл бұрын

    PixelGod211 Yes it could

  • @hunterknight5261
    @hunterknight52616 жыл бұрын

    Legends Luke became as close to godlike as a Force user could by the time of his death, but you are right that during the time of the Rebellion he was only on the level of a high ranking Knight or mid tier Master, at best he was Obi-Wan level, not Yoda or Sidueous. Then there is Disney Cannon (AKA False Cannon) where he was above average and that's kind of it. Not even Yoda level.

  • @shanerooney7288
    @shanerooney72886 жыл бұрын

    *Stormtrooper vs Stormtrooper* Cadian stormtroopers (40k) vs The Empire's stormtrooper (StarWars) both are humans with laser based guns. (no over powered space marine shenanigans, so it seems fair)

  • @latinvianjoint3139
    @latinvianjoint31396 жыл бұрын

    Turian vs Sangheili! Army comparison and maybe naval?

  • @Zerocookiecake
    @Zerocookiecake6 жыл бұрын

    But what about the Droid attack on the Wookies?

  • @trollzynisaacjohan1793
    @trollzynisaacjohan17936 жыл бұрын

    yoda, Palpatine, luke (he was 24 in ROTJ) and dooku. come at me.

  • @durand2153
    @durand21535 жыл бұрын

    Master Yoda was able to create a shield with the force something that others couldn’t do

  • @gups6662
    @gups66626 жыл бұрын

    I can't really say she was on a side, but, Abeloth was stronger than all of them, And Darth Krayt is good enough to be in the conversation

  • @ariesstorm9577

    @ariesstorm9577

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gups a comparison between four versions of the Sith Order and their leaders? Brotherhood of the Sith (Exar Kun); Brotherhood of Darkness (Skere Kanan); Rule of Two (Darth Bane); Rule of One (Darth Krayt)

  • @ahsokahaney
    @ahsokahaney6 жыл бұрын

    I always thought Anakin Skywalker was the most powerful of the Jedi during the clone wars. I mean the guy never lost a campaign or a battle in clone wars

  • @misterkirikou

    @misterkirikou

    6 жыл бұрын

    ESPN Journalist yoda and windu were clearly above him, obi wan could rival and even defeated him

  • @elliottknifton8902

    @elliottknifton8902

    6 жыл бұрын

    ESPN Journalist Palpatine always sent him to battles that Anakin would win in order to make him a Republic war hero as Palpatine intended for Anakin to become his heir

  • @misterkirikou

    @misterkirikou

    6 жыл бұрын

    Elliott Knifton more like his pupet

  • @elliottknifton8902

    @elliottknifton8902

    6 жыл бұрын

    Zachary Housni before Anakin got burned Palpatine knew that he would become stronger than him and kill him as when he fought Yoda he said "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us"

  • @misterkirikou

    @misterkirikou

    6 жыл бұрын

    Elliott Knifton except palpatine objective was To become some sort of immortal darkside incarnation

  • @shogun2215
    @shogun22156 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, Yoda was probably the most adept, but is definitely not the best. At least Rey wasnt one of the choices.

  • @alexiel4406

    @alexiel4406

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shogun thank the force

  • @itsyaboidaniel2919
    @itsyaboidaniel29196 жыл бұрын

    Blacklight Virus vs The Flood *106th Attempt!!! I WILL NOT STOP!!!*

  • @Louthanjen

    @Louthanjen

    6 жыл бұрын

    blacklight

  • @alexiel4406

    @alexiel4406

    6 жыл бұрын

    Flood will consume all

  • @itsyaboidaniel2919

    @itsyaboidaniel2919

    6 жыл бұрын

    Blacklight Virus wins Mic Clank Good Choice, Alexiel Black Bad Choice,

  • @itsyaboidaniel2919

    @itsyaboidaniel2919

    6 жыл бұрын

    Scenario: Both have a fresh start (so no Alex Mercer for Blacklight, and no Alien weaponry or Gravemind for the Flood), both are dropped in opposite ends of a city, the population of the city is 2 million, they cannot leave this city, they know what about the other being in the city but not where, there is no cross infection (otherwise everyone would just say Flood, which is bs), after awhile of infecting people they encounter each other and must fight as they cannot coexist, who wins? If anyone wants to ask about any more specifics then please let me know so I can clarify them

  • @creepergamer7273
    @creepergamer72736 жыл бұрын

    Wow I always wanted to know this thanks!

  • @Jay-629
    @Jay-6296 жыл бұрын

    I’ve said it before-about 5 times-and I’ll say it again Best officer corps Or maybe best military commanders

  • @Masa6x

    @Masa6x

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jay so rex/Cody/etc Vs agent kallus(I know rebels is bad but we don't see many ground leaders) maybe Tarkin, etc , Han etc that sorta thing?

  • @Jay-629

    @Jay-629

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking more Ackbar, Thrawn, Yularen (Republic), etc.

  • @jackdavis4317
    @jackdavis43176 жыл бұрын

    For another factions compared, you should do the admirals of each of the fleets. Like for the Republic, you could use Yularen and for the CIS, you could use Trench, etc. etc.

  • @EmperorMonkey35

    @EmperorMonkey35

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jack Davis well thrawn would win 😂

  • @generalgrievous4341

    @generalgrievous4341

    6 жыл бұрын

    Trench, hmm!?

  • @mRNA-qb2zp
    @mRNA-qb2zp6 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a “witch faction has the best artillery” please

  • @jlsstirbis9339
    @jlsstirbis93396 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this video bro.

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