So I spent about $120 buying shells to pattern a few years ago and that exact same Kent ammo shot the best of the bunch out of my Benelli and happened to be the cleanest shooting ammo too. Now my Browning seemed to prefer the predecessor to the black cloud, Blind Side ammo and it shot pretty good. High pellet count for both at 30 yds. Cant remember the numbers but it was impressive as hell, the Kent was about 10% denser than all the others

Another great video brother. Thanks for doing these. I have been shooting the #2 Kent Fast Steels for almost 15 years and love them. I shoot a bit better with the 2 3/4" #2's but its because they are 100+fps faster than the 3"and it helps my shot because i dont lead enough. Nice job dude.

Great Video I just bought the Remington hyper sonic. A bit pricey, but sure am glad you do ammo reviews, so I can see what I just bought, and what to kind of expect from my ammo.

God Bless everyone reading this and everyone you know.

Appreciate what your doing here. Thanks.

Great video. For ducks I use kent 2 3/4" BBB and set up to shoot at 50 to 70 yards. Amazing result in my 12 gauge weatherby pump with improved choke. For geese I use federal 3" mag T size pellets. Results also amazing. I routinely drop geese beyond 70 yards. Extremely tight pattern in my gun. These are the only 2 shells I use.

I love Hevi-Shot but it patterns terribly out of my new Remington 870 express so I moved to Remington Hypersonics and they pattern amazing. (I’m using factory choke btw.)

Just bought some remington hypersonic 3.5 bbs they have a bite to them but great knockdown power

Great test. Interesting results.

used the Kent Faststeel all last fall in central AB and ill defiantly use it again. its cheap, patterns well and gave me no problems

Great information thank you sir!

These videos are awesome. I wanna try Kent now this season

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I thought I had before but now I’m not sure. Patterns really well

Thanks for confirming I used fast steel , got best results with #4 for ducks and, BB for geese , stoeger M3000 sport

@brettheary

4 жыл бұрын

Kent Faststeel in #4 & #2 is a great shell

I love these shell pattern videos! You should do it again, but with your 20 and 28ga!!

Shot Kent's with my 20 gauge and always liked them. Going to have to try them with the 12 this year.

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Ya I’d like to see how they do

I have to say that I've been shooting the hyper Sonics for a few years now. Now that I've seen this video. I'm really beginning to question weather the price that I pay for them is worth it. I agree with you. The kent leads do seem to have a better kill zone.

Give the Hypersonics a try in 1 1/4 #4s with an improved modified high quality aftermarket choke, BIG improvement!

@BeatRock253

4 жыл бұрын

Russell I just ordered some Hypersonic in #4's. I have read that the extra velocity makes these #4's hit like #3's but with better pattern density. I am excited to try them through my Carlson Cremator Modified choke and Remington V3.

Good stuff. Hey one thing that will help is shoot a 30” circle. That really paints a better picture and a good standard for 40yards is like 80-90% of your pattern is inside 30” at 40yards.

Would like to see a test on #8 or #7.5 for clay shooting

Kent #3s for me for the last 15 hrs tried other loads but always go back to Fasteel they pattern consistently out of all chokes I've tried even factory . I'll stay with them for clean kills any day.

Awesome video i have been shootibg the winchesters for years. But might be looking at kent now. What about maybe using like a led sled?

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Ya same here Winchester super x is what I’ve always shot. Got lots more to test. Very interesting to do. A led sled would be nice. Just need to buy one

Does anyone know what is the barrel length that Remington tests their Hypersonic with to get 1700 fps? I can't find a review online.

I’ve been shooting Kent’s for years. Good shells for the money. Not waterproof but if you take care of them that isn’t a problem. Price is better and they throw consistent patterns. I patterned them long ago in all my Invector Plus choke guns and they patterned well. Finding the right shell-choke combo takes some experimenting. I’ve found most guys want to get too tight of a pattern and would be better served in many cases with a nice uniform spread that is more forgiving for the average wing shooter. Good topic Kevin

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Ya I agree I really don’t want it tight I just want a good spread

3 years late... But I saw on Randy Wakemans write up about the A5 that Browning provided basically skeet, IC And full/extra full WHEN you measure the amount of constriction from the factory provided chokes, so those are basically IC (mod = ic in this case) patterns which are very impressive at 40yds still

Last year opening day, my buddy tossed me couple of shells. I shot at a mallard at at least 60 yards above my head to my surprise, brought it down crashing the water I front of me. They were Rem. hypersonic shells. I bought two boxes the next day and then thats at all I bought last year 2s 3s and 1s. But they say that 1700 FPS takes a toll on the shotgun specially gas op semi autos. Shoot them through pumps or o/u s and your shoulder will feel it. With semi auto Record yourself shooting hypersonics and play your gun action movement in slow motion see how hard it comes back and cocks the hammer. I have a box and half left from last season and I don’t think I’ll be buying more of them. I’ll try Kent 2.0 this year.

Nice video! Definitely going to have to get one of those hats

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Let me know

This is great info and videos. My dad has an a 5 the same one u have but wood. Kent patterns the best I love their sells. Would u consider patterning a full choke like pattern master, etc? I think they pattern better at 40 yards for sure. I have a Browning silver and bps and they use the invector plus system which I believe is better than the ds chokes.

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

I’ve tried pattern master, but I’m not big on buying aftermarket chokes. That’s just me though. I did like how the Kent patterned.

Dear sir, i have been enjoying your every part of this video. Why dont u use full choke...is it a problem to shoot steel shot through full choke? Would benelli give a better pattern? Why most american like benelli over other semi-autos. Please make a comparing video between browning a5 and benelli sbe3. ..enjoyed your videos a lot. Thanks.

Great videos. Could you shoot like 5 shells at each distance to prove the patterns. Rule out a pulled shot and prove consistency.

I have used the black cloud before and it works great

@chadsykes2067

4 жыл бұрын

Black cloud seems to have the same problem as prairie storm, it crushes @20yrd but it doesn't do shit @40 I just wish they would put round steel shot in the flight control wad

Some have patterned Black Cloud and had good results.

this is aswesome man i used kent shells thats y i dont like black cloud i miss everytime thank u for uploading video man

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that!

Damn I just got some black cloud today size 3 shot. Could you maybe do some videos of whatever ammo you chose the pattern difference in the different shot size may be 2, 3 and 4? I'm just curious how that's going to effect pattern density.

@brentbusick2245

5 жыл бұрын

Dave Perala I use Black Cloud with a Kicks Vortex choke tube. It shoots great!

Good review..I shoot tne Black Cloud i might get a box of kents and try them out..

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It’s gonna be interesting to try out all these during the season

Good to know, I love the Kent and estate at about 1450 to 1550 fps bb

I pegged a speck at 65 yards with Kent 3 1/2 inch 4 shot and found about 17 bb's in the bird and 5 of which hit the head and neck. I trust my kent shot, and affordable

@MidValleyMercenaries

4 жыл бұрын

It’s good stuff 👍🏼

I have an A5 and I like shooting Kent it’s shoots well in everything I shoot. Never tried hypersonic out of that gun but they crumple geese at 50 yards with my 20ga. It’s just depends on the gun and how you shoot

The black clouds were a bad joke for me out of my Bps. But out of my Franchi the same 3 inch black cloud shell shot great out to 30 yards and that is with a Carlson mod choke Great Video!! keep up the good work.

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

That’s crazy how different every gun shoots ammo

New at still shot simalar to buck shot? Worry it might hurt my new 12ga.

I shoot a stoeger m3500 with a Carlson’s black cloud choke mid range and a long range my pattern I get shooting black cloud is a huge difference compared to other shells I’ve patterned with it

Kents were trash through my a5 for some reason.. Good vid idea. A count of hits and a running leader board would be pretty cool.. just an idea. Keep it up!

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I thought Kent’s didn’t shoot good through mine either but maybe I’m thinking of something else. Ya I’m gonna keep all papers till the end and see the best preforming overall

All the guys trash talking probably bought there first duck call last weekend awesome video much appreciated you saved me from probably ever buying a box of black cloud again

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

Lol. Prob so. Have a good one

there is a brand out there called "spectra shot", and they shoot colored BBs. you can choose between a couple of different color options. i love my hevi-steel and i am very satisfied with how they treat me, BUT, i have a buddy who loves claiming my ducks and i never have a way to prove him wrong, which is why i'm curious to see how the Sprectra shells shoot, but I've looked them up on KZread and i couldn't find any videos of anyone pattern testing them.

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

🤔 hmm thank you for this wonderful idea. I’ve seen those but I didn’t even think about doing a pattern test with those. I’m for sure doing it now. Also I know people like that too, always claiming birds 😂

@EthanSmith2398

5 жыл бұрын

Spectra shot is garbage from what i have heard. Just a marketing gimmick

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

I’m sure it is but it’d be fun just to try it and see

@tuckerrogers410

5 жыл бұрын

that's dissapointing to hear. i kinda figured it was just a marketing tool. it's a great idea, but if it doesn't pattern well enough, then there's really no point in buying any. especially for the price they are.

@sweetwater_fowler4960

5 жыл бұрын

Tucker Rogers get a new buddy

I just came upon this video. I just want to share my experience with a couple of these brands. 2 years ago I bought several boxes of the Remington Hypersonic 1700 FPS #2's. I hunted with them for 3/4 of the season and I was missing so many ducks I almost threw my gun in the marsh. I thought to myself you have lost your touch, (it was the difference between two ducks and a LIMIT on some days with the misses). The last two years I went with Kent Faststell #2's at 1300FPS. Quite a difference on FPS. My kill ratio of ducks went thru the roof. My opinion on this drastic change is this. Any shell above 1450 FPS equals a tremendous increase in recoil and blown patterns coming out of the gun at that muzzle velocity! I have no scientific testing on this, but I will never purchase a shell above 1450 FPS ever again! Loved this video boys.

@MidValleyMercenaries

4 жыл бұрын

That really is great information Tim. Thanks for that. Thanks!

@brentniedermeier5272

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Benson a lot of people get mixed up in and fall for the whole “speed kills” scheme. Payload and shot density is what matters. I have seen some patterns from 1300 FPS that blow away 1550 FPS patterns.

@timbenson279

4 жыл бұрын

@@brentniedermeier5272 Good to know.I just hunted the opener with the New Kent 2.0 3 1/2 inch #2 1450 FPS. Very impressed with this shell!! Just folded ducks at 45 yards. I know that sounds like a far shot but I shoot VERY crowded public refuges! Good luck this season.

Thanks for sharing.

Ive herd different things on the hypersonic ruining barrels when you shoot to many of them because of the velocity factor not sure if it's true or not but something to think about.

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that too

@bobgordon1754

4 жыл бұрын

I would seriously doubt it.

Funny I bought the Kent fast steel on sale on accident but wow that shit hurt my shoulder definitely a good round

I heard some chokes don’t like to have high velocity rounds going through it. I have a Carlson’s choke in my benelli nova and it specifically says not to shoot anything above 1600fps. Hypersonic would be nice if you aren’t good at leading.

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

That’s interesting to hear about the Benelli nova. Hypersonic would def be nice for someone like that for sure

@sansaeteurn5027

6 жыл бұрын

Mid Valley Mercenaries yea. I have an older gun though. That could be the reason

@EthanSmith2398

5 жыл бұрын

You dont need to lead but about 6 inches anyway. Shells today are fast enough that you pull the trigger its at the bird before they move far enough

@timm.6391

2 жыл бұрын

@@EthanSmith2398 yup, aim and hold at the beak with most birds... hit body and wings... lead 3 inches chest and head... fast or diving birds like wood duck or dove..4 to 6 inch lead with full choke... wiggle room of a couple inches on modified

I always shoot a full choke when I duck hunt and with black cloud I smoke birds I think it might be a choke thing but that’s hot it works for me and I will continue to use ot

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

Ya they will shoot better with chokes made for that shell. This test was to find the best shell for my mod choke. I still think black cloud did ok.

Good info here

What choke you using?

u just need to use full choke with blackclouds, thell be fine. the other ones have fancy wad that opens the shot midway thus compensating for mod choke. also, I think the velocity is important since the penetration of those 11 bids is way different for 1700 ft/sec vs 1400 ft/sec thanks for video/review!

Very interesting. Good video.

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

If you pay more than $20 for a box of shells chances are you own 2 or more Yeti’s and have a Salt Life sticker on your pristine, $75,000 “truck”.

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

Haha. Well I have none of the above but I’m Gonna have to agree with you that that is prob true in most cases

@chriscabe2838

5 жыл бұрын

Gotta add “that your dad paid for” to the end of all of that

@mikemurawski8112

5 жыл бұрын

You're probably right in most cases but a lot of cheap guys like me have 2+ yeti's they bought from rich assholes selling their coolers, own really expensive high-quality guns bought dirt cheap from similar assholes, but spend that $23 on a case of shells because that's the only thing we can "splurge" on that's readily available.

@andrewclaassen6730

4 жыл бұрын

Well played 😂

@metal_mo

4 жыл бұрын

I live in Ohio near the western end of Lake Erie, and you would not believe how many "Salt Life" stickers I see. It's hilarious. Do you think people that live near the ocean have "GREAT LAKES LIFE" stickers on their windows? 😆

Excellent

I think it's good that you challenge people to pattern a shotgun. more often than not, people just go out there with whatever shall they have and shoot away and wound Birds, I would like to see you do a side-by-side comparison between the A5 and the Beretta a300. Good video

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Ya we’ll have to do that too Ken. We’ll grab my brothers gun and do maybe a 1 video comparison

@jacobcrowe2374

5 жыл бұрын

I’d like to see it go against the Winchester sx4

My boy has used cheap Kent steel in his cheap 20 gauge 870 youth model for 2 years with legendary results. It makes me wonder why I’m shooting bismuth out of my 12 gauge.

Are you going to take the ones that pattern the best and make a video on what patterns best out of those ones?

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

Yes sir

Your awsome keep up the great work.

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks my man. Will do 🤙🏼

ONE THOUSANDTH LIKE!!!! WOOOOT!!! Great videos guys!

Would you be able to do those three brands with a full choke in

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

I’d have to buy an aftermarket choke. Can’t shoot steel through a factory choke

its almost like you should be using a full choke at 40 yards or something. lol

@haris75

4 жыл бұрын

full chokes and steel shot bigger than #4 is usually not advised

@XAVargasX0206

3 жыл бұрын

3:55 got away with a hole in his beak 😆

@troypowders4312

3 жыл бұрын

@@haris75 Says who?😂😂

Cool video...we shoot full and extra full choke and use Winchester 2 3/4” 1oz. 6 shot for the majority of the season...like $.30 a shot haha we call em economy loads...deadly as well

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Lol. Winchester super x has always been what I shoot since I started duck hunting. Was curious to see what all the other ones were like

@outinthewoods7973

6 жыл бұрын

Hell yea can’t go wrong

Love them kents

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Ya they did pretty good

Grew up on faststeele and continue to use it

I shoot a Winchester super x 2 black cloud 3 1/2 BB With the anaconda mid range choke tube for geese and I've never had a problem with that ammo killing birds.

I like the Remington hyper Sonics shells I’ve had really good luck with them how ever I do not recommend shooting them out of and older gun they have broke my Remington 11-87 multiple time because of how strong they are

Have shot kents for years. Good shells.

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

Whinchester blind side 3in #2s Carlsson mod mud range choke

I shoot blackcloud out of my Stoeger m3000 with an extra full choke (made for steel) and it patterned better at 50 yards then the shells I put it up against. It’s a tough but every time but I love shooting em and haven’t had a problem yet. Switched from Winchester super X and huge difference in my accuracy

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

I was pretty happy with black cloud. Just curious what made you want an extra full choke? Knockdown or just the ability to reach out there and touch em?

@nickstevens2432

5 жыл бұрын

Jumpshooting and Knockdown. When the birds jump a little early and are at 50 60 yards when they do and for hunting geese in the field and they don’t quite wanna do it fully or when they flare

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

Ok gotcha. Makes total sense. I’ve did jump shooting. That would def come in handy

@nickstevens2432

5 жыл бұрын

Yes sir!

Try the Rio steel very interesting shots.....but with 2 1/2 choke🇬🇷🤘🏻

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

As soon as I can get my hands on them I will. Nobody around here has any 😢

Plus I shoot patternmasters code black goose so reverse wads are out of the question anyways and the hypersonic steel really just burns your chokes up quick if you can’t aim then you can’t hit them dosent really matter what shells you shoot it’s what you get use to shooting consistently

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

I shoot rem hypersteel and if you hit the bird you basically don't even need to worry about it being crippled. The impact is impressive. However the impact on your shoulder is equally as unforgiving. Plan to be sore after shooting 10 of them hahah

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

That’s good to know and yes I could def feel the force behind those shells

Gotta love Kent 😂

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Lol

Good video! I assume you are shooting the same load on all these shells? 1 1/4? Or 1 1/8? Those hypersonics surprised me. I've read they blow out at longer distances, but they held together in your gun. I'd agree, the Kent's won that round. The price is just a bonus. I should do this with my Beretta, my dad's Remington 1100 and my buddies Franchi.

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

I believe they were all 1 1/4. I never even heard of hypersonic until I did this vid. Ya you should totally do this with your guns and make vids

@Bwanar1

6 жыл бұрын

Actually they didn't. At 20yds pretty much anything shoots acceptable. At forty, where this extra speed would matter, the pattern was thin & there were few pellets in the body.

@SomewhereInWisconsin

6 жыл бұрын

@@Bwanar1 Should have been more clear. Comparing that pattern to the 5 other he did it with was decent. Also modified choke at 40 is about max distance either way.

@Bwanar1

6 жыл бұрын

I'm Sorry....what was I unclear about? I'll be happy to elaborate.

@SomewhereInWisconsin

6 жыл бұрын

@@Bwanar1 I was unclear. Haha. Not you. :)

That’s why i use a extended full choke

@conradhansen5869

3 жыл бұрын

Factory chokes work just fine I would never shoot 40 yards anyway lol

In the next video I would like to see tested “Dakota duck and goose” which is made by fiochi “hevi shot snow” which is significantly cheaper than hevi shot and “estate” simply because they are the very absolute cheapest shells I’ve seen

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

I’ll check it out!

I wanted Black Cloud to work for me but it just won't do the job.....Thanks for all the videos

@MidValleyMercenaries

3 жыл бұрын

👍🏼

U shud make a video testing chokes, kicks and pattern master and cremator… with different shells like this series,,,, gonna take a lot of time and money though… hahahaha

@riverrivers250

Жыл бұрын

7:27 …. Oh btw you and ur brother?? Sound exactly the same. Hahahaha

I really need to pattern my shotgun

@donhech2010

4 жыл бұрын

Wish I had a place to do it.

Wondering if the black cloud had the flight control wad??.

@ricomock2

3 жыл бұрын

It would have. It was also the old variant with the flight control designed for cylinder bore barrels, not the newer flight control flex designed for traditional waterfowl chokes

If you can't get the Black Cloud to pattern well something is wrong. I haven't been duck hunting in a while but that stuff always patterns super tight and knocks birds clean out of the sky.

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

I believe you every gun is different. It didn’t shoot bad here. Remember this is a small paper and just quick test to go further in testing which we do in later videos. Check them out. My buddies Benelli Vinci shooting black cloud was not impressive. A lot of birds still alive when they hit the water. Anyways, I don’t write any Shell off this is just a simple backyard test with a factory choke

If you patterned on a 4’ foot square target you would probably see that the faster shells are blowing a hole in the centre of the pattern ( 1700 fps is ridiculous) whereas the Kent at 1425 does not do this but retains the energy at 40 yards to down a duck

Should have put bigger paper or cardboard behind to see if your gun was high or low patterning at 40 you may have been missing with most of the shot

I think black cloud requires a special choke. But i dont buy them so what do i know i could be wrong.

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that having their choke makes a huge difference but I’m not big on buying anything outside of stock chokes personally

@adirondackrebel5215

6 жыл бұрын

@@MidValleyMercenaries ported chokes don't allow the black cloud wads to work properly and tighter chokes also blow out the pattern I watched I guy use cylinder bore with 3" bb black clouds and the pattern was fantastic out to 45 yards check out brobee223 it's his video

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@brentbusick2245

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong. The new Black Cloud can be shot out of ported choke tubes.

Mine patterns great with Black Cloud. I’ll stick with that. Then you say that it may pattern great in yours but this is out of the Browning A5. No that’s just out of YOUR Browning A5.

Black cloud makes a snow goose shell that may be a trad faster than 1700... But it may only be 1600fps

@joshlewis2312

4 жыл бұрын

1670fps is that snowgoose shell. Its a good one if you can find it in 1 shot. Perfect for geese

I used to use the Hypersonic steel and it broke my guns link assembly cause it’s so hard on your gun wouldn’t recommend it to use on a gun you love

@a.a.6132

3 жыл бұрын

Jackson Williams shotguns were designed around low pressure rounds. The explosion pressure of a shotgun round is much lower than a shotgun round. Using a high pressure shotshell in a regular shotgun may damage it.

Switched from Blackcloud to Rio Bluesteel last season. 3 in 4 shoot and killing more birds than I ever had. I buy 2 boxes for less than the price of one now.

@bandedcalls

3 жыл бұрын

I shoot rio 3in #3s (32) and does pretty good

good!

Try federal blue box dirt cheap but I've had thee best results with them

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Ya were trying those in the near future!

@kevintimson6591

5 жыл бұрын

Same results here man, they're a DIRTY load but they shoot tight.

@adirondackrebel5215

5 жыл бұрын

@@kevintimson6591 never had problems with dirtieness they're the cleanest loads I shoot tbh love federal

@kevintimson6591

5 жыл бұрын

Don't get my wrong I have cases and cases of federal blue box it's all I shoot, but look down your barrel after a couple boxes. At least my experience in my benelli they're dirty compared to other rounds, but they are my go to shell for sure.

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

You guys will be happy to see the results tomorrow when part 5 drops

I’m able to get a heavier load in a 3” shell with the Kent’s.

@jameshersom2536

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like Kent has better ammo in general their steel is good but cheap, the bismuth and the tungsten. They're all amazing

Each gun is different so unless you shoot some paper with your gun you don't know. I would like to see 40 yard test of different shells through different guns.

Nice vid

@MidValleyMercenaries

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Kent is the winner with the Browning A5, if it has the energy at 40 yards. I see the Kent went through the paper, then it must have the power.

Pattern rio royal blue

I think you need to retake the shots with the black cloud

Black cloud does not shoot good at all with regular choked that come with the gun. I just picked up a choke specifically for black cloud and so far it’s pretty good

@MidValleyMercenaries

5 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard a lot of people say that

@ricomock2

3 жыл бұрын

The old flight control wad was intended to be used with cylinder chokes. There is a newer flight control flex that is supposed to work better with the more typical chokes found in bird hunting guns

Black cloud is also meant to be shot with a BC choke because of the flight stopper wad

@brentgraves9410

5 жыл бұрын

5.56 Hero the orange box yes the new black cloud can be shot out of any choke tube

you at least need to shoot the same shot weight (or if not made as close as possible and state that) to get the same number of pellets for the same pellet size. If you can't get as close as possible and state that. It doesn't say much to compare a black cloud load with more pellets except that it should have more hits than others and it didn't. They make several shot weights and speed of black cloud. I saw where you were using modified choke but is it a screw in? If so what make of choke ? Inside of 40 yards #3 or #4 kill as many as 2 with higher speed shells say 1550 fps or more. Since pattern is denser they have better chance of hitting head and neck etc. Remember though speed kills since speed determines energy of pellet and its penetration to vitals. Contrary to intuition. Given the same amount of energy a smaller pellet penetrates much better and kills much further . The problem is you have to have a more dense pellet to do that effectively at longer range like lead or Tungsten. The energy of a pellet is its mass or weight time Velocity squared . Steel shot even at higher velocity still slows fairly dramatically over 40 yards.