Q: Is this just your previous Pikmin Versus videos compiled into one? A: 90%? Every segment has new edits, information, and corrections to a few mistakes. Basically this is the intended way to watch this series of videos.

@antonissa8345

19 күн бұрын

I miss your editing from older videos since I loved watching "top 20 pokemon that shouldn't exist" and "top 20 worst kirby power ups". Your more current videos just doesn't have the same flare.

@ciancaldera395

19 күн бұрын

What’s the best pikmin versus remastered deluxe featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series & Knuckles Day 1 edition, pre order edition

@bala11200

19 күн бұрын

​@@ciancaldera395no new funky mode?

@rare_edamimi_fangirl

19 күн бұрын

@@antonissa8345 You know the whole "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" saying? While I don't always 100% agree with said saying, I think it fits pretty well here. Nothing was really prompting you to say this, nothing in the world will improve by you saying this, really all you did is insult someone's work for no real reason. Maybe don't leave comments like this in the future?

@user-ry2sz9tn4w

19 күн бұрын

One note: the issue of not being able to throw pikmin while going up a slope in 3 is actually because the pikmin are too far away from your captain for them to reach

Gran Turismo 4, done saved you a hour

@ChadNiko26

19 күн бұрын

Ah yes, Gran Turismo 4. The peak of the Pikmin series.

@ciancaldera395

19 күн бұрын

I’d argue for Need For Speed Hot Pursuit, it’s REALLY fun playing with friends. (It’s cops vs robbers but both sides have gadgets, they share spike strips and e.m.p.’s but the other two gadgets are team specific)

@anexplosion5436

19 күн бұрын

@@ciancaldera395 Ah, I love cops vs robbers in my Pikmin Multiplayer. ...wait shit that actually sounds like a fun idea.

@Ze_Carrot

19 күн бұрын

Ur wrong its kindom battle

@BandaiNamco2005

19 күн бұрын

I love playing Gran Turismo 4

>gives the answer to the title in the first 5 seconds of the video. >1 hour explaining your point. Subscribed. Thats how you fucking do videos. Now I'm fucking invested. LETS. FUCKING. GO.

Why did Nintendo not expand on Pikmin 3's bingo battle in 4. Instead we got diet challenge mode

@Joosher56

19 күн бұрын

Yeah it kinda sucks lol. I hate when game companies backtrack with awesome concepts instead of building on them, especially in more obscure/niche franchises like pikmin

@StoryTeller796

19 күн бұрын

Maybe they thought if they released Pikmin 3 Deluxe people would have Bingo Battles there, but that's still an excuse for either laziness or time mismanagment.

@dean9472

19 күн бұрын

@@StoryTeller796 the irony that the devs poor dandori lead to 4s dandori mode.

@StoryTeller796

19 күн бұрын

@dean9472 Wait a second, modded or actual 4s Dandori mode? Oh, nevermind, I misunderstood that. What you meant is that the Devs practiced poor Dandori for this 4th game, not that the game had a four way fight mode.

@juanokug4

18 күн бұрын

@@Joosher56sonic fans: "first time?"

I’d definitely say Pikmin 3, not only bc of childhood nostalgia, but just how fun bingo battle is

I remember choosing that map in Pikmin 2 with the bomb rocks on it all the time as a kid. I found out that you could actually activate the bomb by punching it, picking it up, then running with an active bomb in your hands straight into the enemy. I got so many wins via Pikmin Extinction that way.

@chaoscasserole5990

19 күн бұрын

Kamikaze Olimar strats sound so funny that is amazing

Bro is just rubbing in how he has friends who like to play Pikmin! 😭😭😭

If I remember correctly, back when me and my cousin used to play Bingo Battle at like 14 years old we had a Gentleman's Rule where if you were going to use the Rock item, you had to loudly do a 3 or 5 second countdown to give your opponent time to react (can't remember exactly how long the countdown was) I don't think it necessarily fixed the problem but it did result in some fun counterplay.

Nobody remembers the pikmin 1 battle mode (which makes sense because it’s unlocked through a secret button combo you only see in the credits), it’s olimar vs fiddlebert, Olimar has reds and fiddlebert has the battle exclusive green pikmin (in code a carbon copy of reds). There’s about 5 maps which for the short dev time of pikmin 1 is a lot (even if they’re just remixes versions of the 5 in game maps), for perspective the resources put into this hidden sub-mode that maybe like 5 people even knew existed before it became more well-known from the internet would’ve been enough to make a whole new area as big as forest of hope or forest navel. For those who haven’t played it I recommend it if you can get someone to play it with you, it doesn’t hold up incredibly well and there aren’t any power ups or anything but it makes for a funny play session.

@ultimate8125

19 күн бұрын

I guess you could say its LOST MEDIA

@paichni3474

19 күн бұрын

@@ultimate8125 maltigi reference

Finally, a new video to rewatch endlessly, instead of jumping between the 3 separate ones

You know, i was just about to binge all of your pikmin battle mode videos back to back, but i guess if there's a definitive version, then i'll just watch this 3 times instead. Sounds reasonable.

I didn't even know pikmin had multiplayer outside of nintendo land

Great review, you hit all the important points. This is the first time I've seen a review of pikmin by someone who has actually played the battle mode enough to understand the strategies and balance.

@bobboberson8297

19 күн бұрын

I think you could have been harsher on the controls in pikmin 4. It's so hard to do what you want to do in pikmin 4. Losing the wii/wii u pointer controls is already a huge downgrade, but the buttons don't do what you want either lol. It's like the game has already decided how it will be played and you just have to deal with it

When my friend and I play, we just tell each other when we have a boulder and they drop their Pikmin and move away. Making them stop what they are doing and wander in a direction for a few seconds, maybe have their captain take damage, and move back to what they are doing, seems like a fair enough item usage so it's not like it's completely wasted, but not also too broken.

@Kimarnic

18 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏻 I was yelling "just leave the Pikmen and run away!!!!"

My memories of versus mode consist of convincing my friend to play one round, having a ton of fun, and then stopping right after cause he got bored. I still love this mode in all the games but where the hell are you gonna find another person who likes Pikmin?

My opinion on the versus modes are that. Pikmin 2's is the most nostalgic, As thats the one I played over and over again with friends. Pikmin 3's is the most thought out and well designed. The bingo mechanic was a fun way to give incentive to go for specific things instead of just stretching your forces too thin going around grabbing everything, but also to go after especially specific things to stop your opponent from finishing a line they're working on. While still keeping the victory macaroon/marble from pikmin 2 as an alternative option. And Pikmin 4's is probably the most integrated with the rest of the game, with the actual story mode making use of the dandori battles and in a sense preparing you to face off against your friends.

I honestly like the 2 battle mode the most

@Octav2000

19 күн бұрын

But we can all agree dandori battle is the worst one

Any possibility of a Mario Kart Retrospective? I love just listening to your videos when I mow the lawn!

I didn't realize how many problems Pikmin 4's versus mode had. I've never had anyone to play Pikmin with, so Pikmin 4 was the first time I could actually play a battle mode since it has CPU opponents. I thought it was fun, but I didn't have anything else to compare it to. Still wish that 3 had online Bingo Battle.

Wii tanks guy to Pikmin versus mode guy What a leap

59:00 Also, I would like to note that "Pik" is LITERALLY IN THE TITLE! You'd expect plucking Pikmin to be more integrated into the game.

Every time I've played this (which is quite a lot with 5-6 different people) we always truce the rock item, and either give a warning we will use it in 2-3 seconds, intentionally only use it when the other player has 10 or fewer pikmin nearby, or sometimes say the rock means you can no longer use cherry items and have it as a hindrance. I don't know anyone who thinks it's ok to just use it and let it carry out carnage on the other player cause we all think it's not fun to just upset the game that much.

The answer is Pikmin 2 4 player battle. One of the best mods for Pikmin.

thanks for giving me an excuse to rewatch these! good videos!

Bingo Battle is Peak! P2 2 Player Battle holds up Surpringsly well & Dandori Battle whilst not being anywhere as good as the other two, still can be a decent time.

Some notes on Pikmin 3's Bingo Battle that might improve your enjoyment with it, as written by the asshole who wrote the Pikipedia strategy section on it: -The game unequivocally encourages screen-peeking. The game is at its most enjoyable when players are able to know exactly what is going on with their opponent; hence the really pronounced SFX for things like cherry roulettes and item triggering. This is slightly more clear if you play the game with the originally intended Wii U gamepad and dual Wii remote setup. This is also a major shortcoming of Pikmin 3 Deluxe, since its map blocks your screen but leaves your opponent's screen clear. -A lot of the items make more sense with the context of screen peeking. For a start, lightning is actually quite useful in disabling your opponent while they're engaging enemies. It also has some use in triggering opponent bomb rocks (although keep in mind that electrocuted Pikmin are unaffected by explosions due to what I can only assume is a programming error that doesn't allow status conditions to overlap). -The boulder storm is a pressure item, and you're supposed to keep an eye on your friend's roulette to notice when it's being readied. There is no way to avoid it consistently due to its massive spawn radius around the player and speed, as you demonstrated. There are, however, ways to be clever about it. Standing near enemies when it's used against you can result in some easy kills, and standing near any raised objects can potentially offer protection. The reason it's a pressure item is because it effectively prevents you from starting any new tasks that require large groups of Pikmin to be carried around. The major disadvantage for your opponent, however, is that they can only keep the pressure on you so long as they DON'T use the item; preventing them from getting items that may benefit them. If you're clever, it can actually allow you to put pressure on your opponent, by restricting opportunities where they would want to let it go to waste or give you an advantage. -Pikmin brawls are, unlike in Pikmin 2, greatly discouraged. They are messy and hard to control; and effectively only good for biding time. Since Pikmin respawn after being killed in brawls, they are also heavily weighted in favour of the player whose Onion is closest to the fight. This is intended game design; you're supposed to fight as an absolute last resort. Battles are weighed heavily in favour of the defender, not the aggressor; sometimes regardless of how large their armies are compared to each other. This is a big change from Marble Battle, but it is part of Bingo Battle's greater encouragement of planning and strategy over brute strength (Marble Battle's major weakness, in my eye). Additionally, Pikmin are actually quite simple to control in fights since they act by very simple rules. They will prioritise brawling over items or enemies, and will thus always attack other Pikmin when thrown. When CHARGED, however, they prioritise the item being focused on. The reason they may still end up in brawls after this fact is as a result of Pikmin attacking THEM, instead. I'll also note that Ultra-Spicy spray does actually improve the chances of winning brawls, but maturity doesn't. -The stages are a lot more balanced than it seems. My Bingo Battle buddy and myself are still constantly not sure if the fortress or the floor is the better location to spawn in. The fortress essentially gives you full access to most treasures from the start, and a significant amount of control over the map. The disadvantage of actually carrying items back to base being a nightmare is the major hurdle, but luck and good strategy can assure a lot of consistent wins. Rusted Labyrinth also isn't entirely broken due to the fact that the lower player can still gain access to the upper floor, but it's not quite as balanced regardless. In all my time playing, I never found that any of the maps present a significant advantage to one player that the other doesn't have. That's just me, though. -This is sort of a personal opinion, but I see Deluxe as a pretty major downgrade in a lot of ways. Even beyond the somewhat confusingly designed map display, it's just very obvious that the game wasn't designed to be played in this state. The controls are clumsy and confusing, there are FAR more bugs for some reason, and the changes to things like charging can severely affect the complex balance that items have, as well as the nature of brawling with other Pikmin entirely. -Buried Pond sucks.

@bobboberson8297

19 күн бұрын

The castle style maps definitely give a big advantage to the person on the bottom (outside the castle) across pikmin 3 and 4. I have several hundred hours logged on pikmin 3 and the person on top of the castle in that game sometimes just has no chance of winning. We just don't even play on it anymore since it's not fun for either player. In pikmin 4 the maps are smaller so it's a smaller advantage to be on the bottom, but there's also multiple maps like that so overall the balance is still bad.

I like how they saw how deadly the rocks were in Pikmin 2, and just said "okay lets make them even more deadly" for Pikmin 3.

Saying that Pikmin 4 has the worst one so you don't have to

@Topdoggie7

13 күн бұрын

Oh no.

A well written pikmin video of the modes I love with lots of splatoon music in the background? Have a new sub

What makes Pikmin 4's lacking Bingo Battle even MORE atrocious is the fact that its _part of the main story._ That means they put more effort into Pikmin 3's bonus side mode than they did an integral part of Pikmin 4's story mode.

thats pikked up

this kinda makes me wish someone tries to make a pikmin battle fangame combining the best elements of each mode

i do appreciate how at least we have 3 very different vs experiences, rather than just 1 formula nintendo keeps reusuing. It helps make each game feel different, and it's why I like each vs mode for different reasons rather than having one clear favorite.

The preface was exactly what i was thinking when i clicked the video lol

Fun Fact: Pikmin 2 versus was the first time my sister(older than me) won against me in a game in a really long time.

I still have great memories playing bingo battle with my cousin during family gatherings, but that makes sense because it’s so dang fun!

How about Pikmin 3's Bingo Battle with the map design philosophy of Pikmin 2 using themes from the story mode of Pikmin 4 with Pikmin 4's item competition (without the permanent laying down when knocked off part, obviously) and sneak bomb that causes half of your opponent's bingo entries to be ejected from their onion for you to collect?

Pikmin versus modes are all great, even if some are better than others! I wish I had friends who also liked pikmin 😢

Ok Dubble whistle is to prevent you from accidently just removing all your picmin when you didn't want to that's why I like it

I wish they kept the pikmin being able to fight each other

ANOTHER SILOKHAWK VIDEO :D

I'm surprised you didn't point out how cheap it is to just take the pre-existing battle mode from Pikmin 4's story and just make it the only option for VS, when the bingo battle is a completely new, fully fleshed game mode built from the ground up for VS.

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I thought this was a video ranking the Pikmin based on how good they are on the VS Mode, forgetting you already did that lol.

I think the answer is that multiplayer is not the core of Pikmin. Of course, the battle modes made the games more robust in what they could offer to players. But it is not the thesis of Pikmin, like it is for Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart and Splatoon. Still, I would love to see an attempt at a versus mode that has almost as much billing as the story, because as an RTS there is so much possibility for a good competitive game.

the way that you described the 2p battles is exactly how I feel about the games themselves with 2 being my favorite 3 being probably the best and 4 being so close to being perfect that is upsets me. I wish there was a way to turn off some of the really annoying things that are in 4

But which pikmin is the cutest?

@pancakedud69

14 күн бұрын

imo yellows

My brother and I just warn each other when we get the boulder

Did you know that for 3 and 4, winged pikmin usually don’t instakill 1 pellet posies instead of flying and attaching on to them, but if you go under the pellet and throw a winged pikmin it’ll instakill the pellet

"im going to head to bed" pikmin silokhawk video : wsp

The best rock defense is to throw your Pikmin like a mad man all over the place

I really scream “ OMG I LOVE YOU “ as I saw the video’s title and thumbnail, what is my problem 💀💀

pikmin 3 multiplayer is kinda like troll face simulator. me or my sister begging eachother not to use the boulder item and then using it was the funniest thing at the time

peak video

I just loved collecting gold and killing bosses in Pikmin 3

They removed the picking from pikmin?! That’s like removing the pockets in pocket monsters.

Man I so wish i could find more people playing bingo battle. Its such a great game and i can only find like 3-4 KZreadrs who played it and only did lke 1 rounds most of the time which i understand but i love to see the caos

Honestly, your thoughts on P4s battle mode reflect a lot of my thoughts on the game in general. Almost every change to 4 (and even 3 Deluxe to a lesser extent) simplifies the game and discards what the first 3 games introduced and evolved on. Combat, which was once incredibly nuanced and dynamic was completely killed, now being reduced to nothing more than a glorified cutscene or worse, a 5 second inconvenience. Caves have undergone so many changes that they might as well be like the Pikmin 3 "caves". I could go on but it was just a huge disappointment for me, especially with how previous entries chose to evolve concepts rather than remove them.

in bingo battle just go under the onion if you're close enough because it breaks the boulders

I would 100% play a dedicated Pikmin multiplayer game. Call it PIKMIN DANDORI BATTLE!

I LOVE PIKMIN!!!!!!

You oughta do a vid on mario wonder cause despite what it looks like its functionally nsmb 6 so im curious how you think it fares compared to the rest of the series

I wouldn’t have minded if they just made bingo battles the pikmin thing So every future game would be have bingo battles

with the blue bois in vs battle having a higher attack strength, if they were to have this 1.5x damage boost in the base game in pikmin 2 onwards, how drastically would the tier list change? Also great vid, here’s to hoping for pikmin 5 before the heat death of the universe

When I was a boy - all the neighborhood children would play pikmin 2 battle mode. This one kid was an absolute prodigy - undefeated. But only when he put the controller on the floor and played with his bare feet. Whenever it was toe boys turn he would peel off his putrid socks and yell “it’s tootsie time!” I prefer bingo battle personally.

I really like these versus modes, but if only they can be play online. Also, Dandori battle needs more maps. 6 is too small and that's saying something when Pikmin 2 versus have 10 maps and they're random.

Anyone else think that wing pikmin should be immune to falling off of the map?

i REALLY hope someone at nintendo sees this before they make 5.

I'm hoping for bingo battle in the DLC when they add in challenge mode.

Tbh i think the biggest flaw of pikmin 3's pvp is lack of any sort of online play.

Fun fact: in pikmin 4 dandori battle you can hit the opposing captain when thow pikmin at them

Hi silowhawk, I know this is kind've unrelated, but I remember you mentioning that you were gonna make a Pikmin 4 review. Do you still plan on doing that or nope?

Me, I’m the best Pikmin battle mode.

Pikmin 1 has the best vs mode

we already know its pikmin 3. nothing beats the bingo mode

Really hate the Switch for making the worst titles in nearly every respective franchise become record-breaking best-sellers.

The answer is pikmin adventure's.

Throwing those Pikmin 3 cartridges was not necessary 😢😢😢

Interesting that the Pikmin Wiki section was taken out from the Pikmin 2 section. Was it taken out due to it being fixed after the video was made?

I think its called leafy showdown because in the story mode leaflings have leaves

how do I pick up the bombs in pikmin 2, I don’t know how to on Wii or switch.

Are you still doing a full Pikmin 4 review?

Wait you can’t force the what stage you want in the switch version? I knew it was random by default but I didn’t know if was always randomly generated

@lukers9819

18 күн бұрын

I have tested it on my switch. You can force the maps. But it does default to randomly generated.

31:35 I just... never had any issues with the boulders, they were always really simple for me to avoid? though I watch my opponents item roll, if I see that then they use it I know the timing for it, but I was trained by pikmin 2's caves

My favourite is still Pikmin 2's but Pikmin 3 is also very much enjoyable. Pikmin 4 I haven't personally played as I bought it for my little sister instead of myself. I look forward to playing it with her next time I visit my family's house.

not pikmin 4.

1:17:31 r.i.p. all the pikmin

Pikmin 3 is one of the best co op games of all time

Its 2 but 3 is also epic

Super Smash Bros. Brawl is the answer

i wish i could play these modes but nobody wants anything to do with me when it comes to multiplayer :(

@zapunknown

15 күн бұрын

Same, and if with a stroke of luck someone does, they’re always too busy to do so

hello silo

during this video i went to ebay and bought pikmin 2

33:13 just go under onion this is run save or go to other capitan when you see the rocks

@silokhawk

8 күн бұрын

1. What if you're nowhere near your onion? 2. You shouldn't drop everything you're doing to run and hide every time your opponent rolls the boulders. That's practically handing them the game. 3. How long are you expected to hide under your onion? Again if you're going to hide under your onion instead of working towards the objective; You're basically handing your opponent the game.

@hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh1

8 күн бұрын

Ok 1. When you dont use other capitan just have it under onion to collect pikmin you can after it switch your capitans 2. But you can go to your oponent when pikmin army to kill self pikmins or hide under objects or map (like bridge or tunel) 3. After some matches you can predict your oponent or just go under onion whisle all pikmin under onion go outside of onion and when the oponent use you can go under onion (you cant go far from onion)

@livinlikeeli6785

7 күн бұрын

@hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh1 I play 1 vs 1, no second captain to switch to. Maps can be big, I'm far away from the onion often and far away from the other player. Items are random, you can't predict when someone gets the rock item and drops it. I've played a game with two rock items spawning in two minutes and a game with no rock items in about ten minutes. No matter how you spin it, rocks suck!

@silokhawk

3 күн бұрын

@@hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh1 1. Assuming you do have 2 captains on, if you're hiding under your onion, you're not working towards your objective; And all your opponent needs to do is use the boulder the second you switch back. 2. You're assuming you'll be in reach of your opponent anytime they randomly roll the boulder; Even if you are, you're not going to get anything done if you hover around them the whole game. Sooner or later you'll need to go back to your onion to get more Pikmin. 3. This point doesn't make any sense lol. The boulder is completely random. You can't _"predict"_ anything. Not to sound like an ass but have you actually played Bingo Battle? Everything you've suggested boils down to letting your opponent take control of the entire game because they rolled boulders. You do realize there's no timer right? You can hold onto items for as long as you want. The more time you hide and wait for someone to use boulders, the longer you're getting absolutely nothing done.

it’s 3

@Mad_Mew224

19 күн бұрын

It’s 3

@Pyrodiac

12 күн бұрын

It's 3?

Pikmin 1.

Pikmin 4 multiplayer in general is just disappointing. First off, there’s no second captain. You can’t use another custom character, you can’t use olimar.. nothing. Basically removing the element of multitasking. Then, even after that.. they give you the dog, which is more like playing as a Pikmin than a captain.. and it’s a heavy afterthought. And even after that, the second player in the story mode doesn’t control the dog.. IT CONTROLS A ROCK THROWER.. literally, it’s just “little brother mode”.. since all you can do.. is throw a tiny pebble that does 2 damage. And that’s not even starting, on Dandori.

Reminder that Pikmin is single player and only 4% of the fans will play the multiplayer This video won't make Nintendo make a better MP in 5

@livinlikeeli6785

17 күн бұрын

4%? Oddly specific

You called Olimar, Olimer, at the start of the Pikmin 2 section 💀

27:31 huh?