Which is better? Tube Amps Vs Tube Pedals

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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
02:47 Clean tone
03:05 Synergy distorted tone
03:20 Behringer Tube Monster circuit discussion
04:19 Behringer distorted tone
05:03 Behringer Tube Monster circuit discussion (continued)
05:47 Seymour Duncan circuit discussion
06:34 Seymour Duncan Twin Tube distorted tone
07:47 B. K. Butler Tube Driver circuit discussion
08:45 B. K. Butler Tube Driver distorted tone
09:29 Radial Tonebone Classic circuit discussion
10:35 Radial Tonebone Classic distorted tone
12:17 Side by side comparison of all
13:38 Overall thoughts
In this video, I explore the fascinating world of tube-based guitar pedals and compare them to traditional tube amplifiers. While distortion and overdrive pedals are prevalent, tube-based pedals have become more niche over the years. This comparison aims to highlight the differences, similarities, and unique characteristics of these pedals.
I start by discussing the history and current status of tube-based pedals. A decade ago, these
pedals were more popular, with models like the Tube Driver being a staple on many pedalboards. Today, though, brands like Friedman and Kingsley still produce tube pedals, they are less common. The circuits in these pedals differ significantly from those in tube amps, particularly in how they clip the signal. This difference can make it challenging to replicate the exact sound of a high-gain tube amp with pedals alone.
To illustrate these points, I compare several classic tube pedals to one of my favorite tube “amps”, the Synergy Module (Mark II CP). This all-tube, high-voltage unit is based on the Mark II C+ amp and provides additional high-gain, high-voltage tube channels to an existing amp. I demonstrate its capabilities by playing through a clean channel and then with higher gain settings.
Next, I introduce the Behringer Vintage Tube Monster, a clone of the Ibanez Tube King TK999. This pedal features a noise gate and operates at lower voltage, combining tubes with op-amps for a distinct sound. It produces a crunchy, sizzly tone, with the tubes starved for voltage to enhance distortion.
I then showcase the Seymour Duncan Twin Tube, which operates at higher voltage and functions more like a traditional tube amp. It uses non-standard tubes to achieve its sound, producing a fuzzy tone that requires careful adjustment to control the bass for a crunchier distortion.
The BK Butler Tube Driver follows, a pedal similar in design to the Behringer Tube Monster. It uses op-amps to boost the signal before distorting it with tubes. While not an exact replica of a tube amp, it provides a unique clipping and distortion characteristic.
Lastly, I present the Radial Tonebone, a pedal that was highly popular in the early 2000s. It offers various tone-shaping switches and uses tubes like clipping diodes with minimal voltage, combining op-amps and tube clipping. I demonstrate it with a medium gain setting, showcasing its versatility and sound quality.
After comparing these tube-based pedals, I revisit the Synergy module and play each circuit side by side to highlight the differences and similarities in their tube-based sounds.
Comment below with your favorite tube-based pedals and how they compare to traditional tube amps.

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  • @irvingperes
    @irvingperes3 күн бұрын

    Yes, Brian. The answer is yes. If you made a pedal with actual tubes, we’d gladly buy it.

  • @SlowToe
    @SlowToe3 күн бұрын

    50 years of experience right here! Happy belated birthday Brian 🎉

  • @eduardokazuo2900
    @eduardokazuo29003 күн бұрын

    The "Magician" Brian Wampler playing through a Behringer VT999 and saying that is real good. I never thought I'd live to see that. A lot of people must be hanging themselves. Cheers from Brazil. By the way. Happy Birthday man. Love your pedals.

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    Күн бұрын

    VT999 FTW! \m/

  • @MikeSmith-tx2lp

    @MikeSmith-tx2lp

    7 сағат бұрын

    Get over the Behringer bias problem. They make excellent value kit nowadays. “Not made in USA” does not mean anything is automatically crap.

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    4 сағат бұрын

    @@MikeSmith-tx2lp I agree! I've had alm 0 trouble with any Behringer thing I've ever bought!

  • @evancrocker5343
    @evancrocker53433 күн бұрын

    The Hughes and Kettner Tube Factor was a cool pedal I used for a bit and still own. I swapped out the stock tube for a lower gain 12AU7 or 12AT7 and it sounded even better. It was equally great as both a boost to an already dirty sound or as a distorted rhythm tone on the clean channel.

  • @mesasavage

    @mesasavage

    3 күн бұрын

    12AY7 or its industrial 6072 counterpart is the sweet spot between those two and my favorite for replacing a 12AX7. AU is too low and AT is strange as the first gain stages. AU is better as a cathode follower and AT is better in the phase inverter spot on a PP or PPP amp. Each tube has its purpose, but I think the AY is vastly overlooked as a way to ideally knock some gain down from an AX.

  • @2Plus2isChicken2013
    @2Plus2isChicken20133 күн бұрын

    That Radial pedal is the best sounding one I think. I have the Hot British version and it’s a favorite of mine. Radial should bring these pedals back.

  • @allenlocke1935

    @allenlocke1935

    3 күн бұрын

    I love my Tri Mode Radial clean, and two distortion options with an effects loop on the lead channel. Always makes me smile!

  • @herculesrockafeller

    @herculesrockafeller

    3 күн бұрын

    It has the tightest sound I think.

  • @jenniferlawrence2701

    @jenniferlawrence2701

    3 күн бұрын

    I read somewhere they're based on an old Japanese pedal Shawn Lane used to use. Could be wrong.

  • @RenanSilva-ue5jp
    @RenanSilva-ue5jp3 күн бұрын

    Harlot v3 from kingsley, my all time favorite drive pedal. versatile, powerful and enough features to allow me to use any kind of guitar on a set and compensate accordingly, love it to death!

  • @adielelgi

    @adielelgi

    3 күн бұрын

    Definitely ! My favorite pedal!!!

  • @andrewgalvin2616

    @andrewgalvin2616

    3 күн бұрын

    Second this

  • @laurentperez5229

    @laurentperez5229

    2 күн бұрын

    I have a lot of Tube drive pedal and the Harlot V3 is the best I ever bought. Really really great pedal. And most of my Kingsley (Maiden D and Page TS) pedals are the best I ever tried or owned.

  • @TeleBlaster

    @TeleBlaster

    22 сағат бұрын

    I just got a Harlot V3. Its splendid. My fav drive pedal b4 that was also a Kingsley …a Page. The Harlot is like a Page +.

  • @adielelgi

    @adielelgi

    21 сағат бұрын

    @@TeleBlaster I have had so many overdrive and boost pedals.. Kingsley is simply the best.. at least for me

  • @vonmilash823
    @vonmilash8233 күн бұрын

    I have an old Mesa Boogie v twin and I don't care what anyone says. put a ts9 or mojo mojo in front of it and it's as good as any amp you can mane. It chugs even with my cheepie Squier tele.

  • @vancepitman2105

    @vancepitman2105

    2 күн бұрын

    I have a Mesa Bottle Rocket. Simpler, a bit crisper, very crisp (seemed to cut through a bit more cleanly than the V Twin, for me), solid on its own, and stacks fantastically with other drives, or into a medium gain amp channel. Although it’s just volume, drive, and two band EQ, I definitely prefer it over the Tube Driver and Ibanez circuits. I’m curious if the Mesa pedals follow a similar design with high power Op Amp and starved tubes.

  • @Ottophil
    @Ottophil3 күн бұрын

    Ive been playing 2-4 shows a month for the last year. I quickly gave up my precious half stacks and twins for a friedman IRX and a class D power amp pedal, and a 1x12 cab. I don’t even think of it as a pedal. My amp is at my feet now. Its not digital (unless I use the IR’s) and it sounds “real” at home I still use a 6505+ for distortion. And fender twin for cleans. But live, its friedman IRX doing both. The high voltage tube gain is my only acceptable path. If i played clean only:id of gone digital eventually. Friedman is worth every single penny

  • @guttedEwok01

    @guttedEwok01

    19 сағат бұрын

    What power amp pedal do you use?

  • @Superjet113
    @Superjet1133 күн бұрын

    Enjoyed this, and the way you basically explained how each circuit worked. Thank you Mr. Wampler!

  • @jimbeaux4988
    @jimbeaux4988Күн бұрын

    I watch tons of videos showing different drive pedals. This is the first one where they ALL sound great.

  • @robertbarajas2311
    @robertbarajas23113 күн бұрын

    You're the Man Brian. Technical Genius.. I think tube driven distortion and overdrives are cool..

  • @terryenglish7132
    @terryenglish71323 күн бұрын

    I have the VOX Silk Drive and love it. I'm getting the AC30 sounding one next month as soon as my $ deposits.

  • @trebleboost7

    @trebleboost7

    3 күн бұрын

    Really want to try these!

  • @terryenglish7132

    @terryenglish7132

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@trebleboost7Nu Tubes sound just like tubes, amp tubes, not the low V current starved "Tube Driver" kind. Silk sounds great w effects as well.

  • @markdesod561
    @markdesod5613 күн бұрын

    Very informative video!

  • @jeffhughes1039
    @jeffhughes10393 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this video Brian. I'd love to see how you would approach building a vacuum tube based pedal

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo97333 күн бұрын

    Tube Monster is a great one. I was surprised when I got one a played around with it.

  • @SlowPersuit
    @SlowPersuit2 күн бұрын

    I have a tube pedal running into a tube amp. Its all so vintage & tube driver-ish that the clocks go back 15 minutes every time I power up.

  • @MyOtherNick
    @MyOtherNick3 күн бұрын

    Yes, happy birthday from the Netherlands, Brian!

  • @buzzyboy6505
    @buzzyboy65053 күн бұрын

    I know I’ll never be able to replicate this tone no matter what I do but I do enjoy watching and listening. It’s just so thick sounding.

  • @jeffs.3533
    @jeffs.35332 күн бұрын

    Happy 50th Brian! You rock! I recently got a "Tsakalis G (Gravity) Spot" pedal, and find it's heads and tails above just about every other pedal I have. It sounds heavenly. Thanks for the video!

  • @Sainte305
    @Sainte3053 күн бұрын

    I used the Behringer with a tube screamer for 2 years and loved it. I only paid $15 for it on Amazon. Probably the most value I've ever gotten from a pedal. In fact, I had a couple of their pedals, most I didn't like except for their tube drive and their reverb. Effectrode is by far my favorite tube driven pedals nowadays.

  • @mikaeljohansson83
    @mikaeljohansson833 күн бұрын

    Really love your videos Brian always informative and always enjoyable. And I just love all the more in depth videos being an electronics engineer every show with a schematic gives me the chills 😉 And the fact that I really enjoy your playing makes it all so much better!

  • @mrbassdbd
    @mrbassdbd3 күн бұрын

    I have the behringer with a less gainy tube in it and it has always been amazing

  • @4gave1
    @4gave13 күн бұрын

    The Tubesteader stuff is fantastic

  • @raycochrane3971
    @raycochrane39712 күн бұрын

    Thank you for explaining the why/how of the starved plate.

  • @tmduncan75
    @tmduncan753 күн бұрын

    Brian I recently got a Carvin x1 pedal for Father's day and I love it. Bought a 2 channel looper pedal to run it with my amp so that I can switch between my amps preamp and the preamp pedal to give me versatility for blues, country, and rock, but still only using one amp. I'm very impressed with it and I am shocked more people don't know how good it is. I'd love to see you do a video on it being you're my go-to pedal guy. I have a Belle and an Ego compressor run in front. Please consider doing this from a fan of your pedals and your perspective videos.

  • @eddododo
    @eddododo2 күн бұрын

    Man, I don’t know if it’s just that guitarists aren’t wise to it yet; but Sushibox are doing some UNBELIEVABLY great things with tubes in a pedal form factor

  • @ronnieanderson3081
    @ronnieanderson30813 күн бұрын

    well brian, i have been a huge fan of your od/dist stuff for a long time. i used a sovereign pedal for a few years, then the pinnacle, then the tumnus. of course the natural progression for me then is the combo gearbox. LOVE IT! thanks for your relentless dedication to making guitar players sound great!

  • @user-pg1qw9xk4h
    @user-pg1qw9xk4h3 күн бұрын

    My favorite would be the Kingsley Harlot, 3-knob version.

  • @thehappyheretic2136
    @thehappyheretic2136Күн бұрын

    I love that guitar you're holding! very cool

  • @Damaraja
    @Damaraja3 күн бұрын

    i typically have a Valvecaster and Mosfet Boost ‘always on’, running close to unity, into a tube amp. They fortify the signal and can induce overdrive, if needed 🤙

  • @dukey558
    @dukey5583 күн бұрын

    Blackbird really shines once connected to a clean amp with high headroom, it sounds fantastic ever~!

  • @scotthutchens1556
    @scotthutchens15563 күн бұрын

    I have original Chandler rack Mount Tube Driver and rack mount Blue Tube units. Plus the black Real Tube Overdrive pedal. For years I used them but actually have found as much if not more satisfaction in specialized pedals like your Wampler Plexi-Drive Deluxe and Plextortion, Pinnacle, Tweed ‘57, Black ‘65, etc., because of giving me these sought after amp tones. After seeing this video I will be pulling some of these out of mothballs to use with the MOSFET amps I have like the Orange Crush 35 RT, Peavey red stripe Bandit and Roland late 90’s 60 watt Blues Cube. As it was I hadn’t played though my tube amps that much because of the MOSFET amps and AIAB pedals but have played through my Marshall Class 5, Studio 15.

  • @rocketsauce5067
    @rocketsauce50673 күн бұрын

    I have the tube driver rack version of this. It is very versatile. From gated fuzz to pretty modern high gain.

  • @danduntz2539
    @danduntz25393 күн бұрын

    I picked up an Ibanez tube king (tk999us) a couple years ago, and I’ve played it through my 90’s soldano, my hardwired ac30 and my fender concert, and it sounds great on each of them, with some tweaking.

  • @sonidojamon
    @sonidojamon3 күн бұрын

    I loved my Ibanez PUE 5 Tube!! And I still own a half rack unit Hughes & Kettner Blues/Cream Machine!

  • @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204
    @ryanforresterrenaissancesa42043 күн бұрын

    I don't have much experience with tube pedals. I do have the Vox V-8 which uses a higher-voltage circuit for the tube. To run it with batteries requires SIX AAs, with 600 milliamps minimum. It has a good range of overdrive to distortion options and works great with our Marshalls. My son has one and loves it also.

  • @peterzlateff-fh7yt
    @peterzlateff-fh7yt3 күн бұрын

    I’ve been using the IRX as my overdrive into a clean tube amp for low volume playing. No IRs engaged. Does the job well.

  • @nielsdonnelly6027
    @nielsdonnelly60272 күн бұрын

    Have been using the Friedman IR-D for a direct solution and am loving it!

  • @czarofzonk1360
    @czarofzonk13603 күн бұрын

    I love my VT999. The pots are very smooth. I put my VT999 in front of my Silvertone 1482 tube amp. I then put my tube amp in front of my Pod-Go (using load box' line-out). I route the AMP out of the Pod-Go to my Orange Crush 12. I route the cab-sim out of my Orange Crush through a Zoom MS70-CDR back into the Pod-Go through the stereo effects-loop. It is awesome. I made a gear vid of the above (along with lengthy description).

  • @czarofzonk1360

    @czarofzonk1360

    3 күн бұрын

    As for my VT999, I use a full 1-AMP dedicated power supply driving a Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7. The VT999, out of the box, uses a 230 mA power supply driving a Bugera 12AX7 (those do pair well, actually), but when you pump up the power to drive a darker pre-amp tube, it's pretty magical.

  • @VintageSG

    @VintageSG

    2 күн бұрын

    @@czarofzonk1360 Try a 12V power supply in place of the 9V and a 12AU7. Long plate 12AU7/ECC82 respond really well. The gain control still allows for utter filth, but the control is now useable over a much wider range. 12V won't hurt anything, providing you ensure the correct polarity. The main reason for using it is the valve heaters. If you meter the voltage applied, you'll notice they're a little 'starved' with the 9V.

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy23082 күн бұрын

    I'm 62 and I always loved the Chandler, but I own the tone bone❤..Good stuff. ❤

  • @mrmatthew2443
    @mrmatthew24433 күн бұрын

    It is , you have a good one there ( the BK butler tube driver ) yes..!! There are other versions that don’t sound anything like the version you have .. Eric Johnson uses that one and yes David gilmour but EJ really utilizes his tube driver It’s one of his signature tones we’ve all heard many times

  • @Arwndr
    @Arwndr3 күн бұрын

    I use very compact E730 tube preamp, mod of Engl E530. 4 channels, 2 separate full controls for clean and lead, contour and brightness switch. Sound exactly same as Engl. And has a size of two mini pedals. Custom order. I use it with power tube emulator + IR + effects(delay/reverb) => and then straight into active speakers or phones.

  • @Unusednickname_1970
    @Unusednickname_19703 күн бұрын

    I’ve had quite a few OD/distortion pedals with tubes. All of them running at proper high voltage. Some sounded great, others just ok. Bottom line is, I’ve had plenty of dirt pedals without tubes that sound just as good, or better. Believe it or not, the Boss OD-3 remains one of my favorites. What I’ve learned is that tubes in a pedal doesn’t necessarily make it sound/feel any more amp-like than a good solid state pedal.

  • @rossbalch
    @rossbalch3 күн бұрын

    Love my Kraken v4 preamp. 4 tubes, high voltage. Sounds amazing.

  • @damonb3939
    @damonb39393 күн бұрын

    Few notables from my years of playing. Mad professor 1, gets evh sounds plus reverb. RAT from 88 non led great for early Nuno tones. Rack mount Chandler Tube Driver. Marshall classic tone. Sansamp first rack mount. Very versatile.

  • @damonb3939

    @damonb3939

    3 күн бұрын

    Note only the Chandler had tubes in it.

  • @Spicypedals
    @Spicypedals3 күн бұрын

    Hey Brian, great video! I'm really surprised and fascinated by the Tonebone. I had no idea it had such versatility and character.

  • @SanderVerstraten
    @SanderVerstraten3 күн бұрын

    I still got the Ibanez TK999, great pedal. And a nice choice for Bass Guitar too

  • @rayprevailer8454
    @rayprevailer84543 күн бұрын

    I got the Behringer to mess around with some MOD ideas. The enclosure has lots of extra room. When I got it and played through it I was shaken at how good it sounded. The gate is really good to. I still have not done any mods as it is really good just the way it is. Think I paid $99. I thought that Radial sounded really good. I never tried one.

  • @01Szilard-q7y
    @01Szilard-q7y3 күн бұрын

    I'm using a Kingsley Page inside the fx loop. Nice pedal.

  • @dalegroff3972
    @dalegroff3972Күн бұрын

    To my ears the Butler drive was a favorite. That and the Synergy. They were all cool and I’d be happy with any. I hadn’t heard the tone bone, that was my 3rd fav for sure. My gig rig is an OD-3 and an Xotic SL into a 12 watt, cathode biased amp.

  • @OgamiItto70
    @OgamiItto702 күн бұрын

    I used to have a rack unit from Digitech called the GFX-1 Twin Tube that did great tube distortion. It had a built-in noise gate, 5-band graphic EQ and a really sweet compressor (among other effects). It did a great simulation of a cranked Marshall, really good tone. Try one of those if you can find one. They seem to be rare these days, but not expensive.

  • @retrosoundstudio
    @retrosoundstudio3 күн бұрын

    Gotta love the Lovepedal woodrow for tubey overdrive tones!

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo97333 күн бұрын

    Tube Monster is a great one. I was surprised when I got one a played around with it. Radial stuff is all good as well. I have Tonebone and the Tri-Mode. Still break them out frim time to time.

  • @jimmcdougall9973
    @jimmcdougall99733 күн бұрын

    Friedman have done a very good job with the IRX.

  • @KyleKalevra
    @KyleKalevra3 күн бұрын

    I keep a Behringer VT999 Tube Monster (with a 12AU7 tube) pedal on my board as my preamp. My whole DI board is based around that pedal.

  • @rayzorback88

    @rayzorback88

    Күн бұрын

    Just curious what you're using as power amp sim and cab sim?

  • @ErickPaquin
    @ErickPaquin3 күн бұрын

    The radial and the one by Butler sounds the best to me. The one I use for "rock" is the "Red Rox" from the company Dawner Prince, quite amazing. I paired that once with a 1964 Super Reverb Black face and wow... closest to a "Brown sound" I ever had.

  • @jacobsteele2929
    @jacobsteele292917 сағат бұрын

    I have tried playing various pedals through solid state amps for years, then a neighbor let me play on his marshal jcm and it blew me away! I have since bought a mesa boogie mark v 25, and absolutely love the fat and crunch modes on channel 1. On the 25, the mid control turns into a boost past noon. So I have that pretty high and back the gain off. I have treble up high and bass low on the first eq. play it soft and it's clean with a little grit, dig into it and it roars. It has a huge range and super responsive to how I'm playing. And the crunch mode is awesome too. That behringer tube monster sounds the closest and my favorite of these!

  • @ProfessionalNoodler
    @ProfessionalNoodler3 күн бұрын

    I kinda miss that Behringer tube driver, I used to use it when I didn't have the money for a tube amp. Eventually had some tube amps around so I tossed it. But you're right Brian, loads of people had some type of tube drive on their board a decade back.

  • @sparkyguitar0058

    @sparkyguitar0058

    3 күн бұрын

    Want another one ? I have the Behringer vintage O D that I did the Bitmo mod to. And then for now I'm using a 12a7u tube which is the weakest of the 12a style. I use a early 3 knob T Driver that has been modded with a bias knob up front by Fromel. Also using a 12a7u tube and running it at 18v for more headroom. It stacks very well with a Alchemy modded Blues Driver and a Meat and 3 modded Soul Food. None of these need very much gain so noise level is reasonable.

  • @stoneysdead689

    @stoneysdead689

    3 күн бұрын

    @@sparkyguitar0058 What is a "Bitmo" mod? I might be interested in it, if you're serious about selling.

  • @Zlofengir
    @Zlofengir3 күн бұрын

    I have the Tube Driver as well as the B.K. Butler Real Tube and both are worthy secret weapons in one's arsenal. I highly recommend grabbing the Tube Driver with the Bias Mod; it gives you fine-tuning over the feel of your crunchiness. Also, the Plush Valve Job by Fuchs is a sleeper pedal that is not discussed. I love all three of these pedals with a Klon(e) pushing the front end.

  • @michaeljuliano8839
    @michaeljuliano88393 күн бұрын

    I’ve never had a tube amp, although I want to get one because I’ve been led to believe there’s a feel to them that you can’t get elsewhere. What I use right now until I can afford one is a NU>X Amp Academy that I run into the Power Amp in on a Boss Katana. In particular, I like their Vox AC30 tone and their JCM 800 tone. Honestly, the tones I get make me happy, so I’m not sure I’ll feel I got my money’s worth when I eventually do get a tube amp even if it is a better experience.

  • @ShawnPGMaloy
    @ShawnPGMaloy3 күн бұрын

    Synergy rules! So does the Ethereal! Will there be a Wampler tube pedal???

  • @trebleboost7

    @trebleboost7

    3 күн бұрын

    Agree!

  • @scottcurry4116
    @scottcurry41163 күн бұрын

    I have a Kingsley Minstrel V3 and it is a great pedal. I use it with my Ge Tumnus in front to push it or I use them independently. Together they are awesome and very versatile. I’m not into super high gain sounds though. I have put other ODs in front too like the Pantheon, Prince of Tone and ThorpyFX Gunshot. They all give different flavors. The Pantheon is super versatile too.

  • @vonmilash823
    @vonmilash8233 күн бұрын

    For the record I think they all sound fantastic

  • @robertbuffalo8287
    @robertbuffalo82873 күн бұрын

    I own the Effectrode Blackbird and it sounds great. I maybe would not say it is better, since sound is very subjective. However, it is more versatile with two separate drive channels. I also have the tubesteader lightkeeper, which I like to stack with my analog drive pedals to get a tube feel and that sound great as well.

  • @richardconley4705
    @richardconley47052 күн бұрын

    So, I've built 3 tube pedals from a DIY web site and all 3 sound great and they are all very different than any of my overdrive/distortion pedals sound wise. The tube pedals do use an inductor to ramp up the voltage to over 200volts, so the tubes are doing what tubes do. I've compared the tube pedals to everything from the Pallisades by Earthquaker Devices to the VH4 by Diezel. I love the pallisades and it probably comes the closest to the tube pedals, but the tube pedals definitely have their own sound, and yes, it's tubey!😁

  • @Stereostupid
    @Stereostupid3 күн бұрын

    Happy belated Brian!!

  • @jimilee459
    @jimilee4593 күн бұрын

    The butler was crunchy like an overdrive, the behringer was more like a distortion. Those were my favorite. I have a clone (DIY) of the Soldano GTO that I like.

  • @robcerasuolo9207
    @robcerasuolo92073 күн бұрын

    Yaaay, Effectrode got some love, even for a split second! I have a Helios Fuzz, and it's pretty dadgum awesome. I wish you'd actually played through a Blackbird, but I really did enjoy the ones you did show us.

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing3 күн бұрын

    I prefer the variety you can get with OpAmp and especially FETS in dirt pedals. They also have less problems on a big board interfacing. My board is actually in effect wired as 3 boards used as 3 channels on a pedal switcher. I actually have and use 63 pedals in total. Even live! I use a Marshall left just before crunch. I did have a shot with a tube pedal and I could only get one usable dirt sound. I gave it to my bass player. It gets used as an always on pedal with a rig that uses a studio rack amp not a bass amp. .

  • @watcherzero000
    @watcherzero0007 сағат бұрын

    I have a Mesa Boogie V Twin that I bought back in 2009. It's one of my fav pedals.

  • @analogMensch
    @analogMensch3 күн бұрын

    I have a TK999HT, this one actually runs on high voltage (it needs 12Vac and have a transofrmer inside). Amazing sound, I it mostly stays on my shelf. Don't want to give it away cause it was was first real tube sound, but I'm happy with my board and amp sound so my stuff stayed the same since some years.

  • @timwood6115
    @timwood61152 күн бұрын

    The TC Electronics TubePilot is the least-expensive of the pedals with tubes in them. Back in the day, I built a Stak-in-a-Box tube guitar pre-amp kit from Paia Electronics. Craig Anderton designed it. It's still available. It is a hybrid, starved-tube circuit.

  • @stahliwood8755
    @stahliwood87553 күн бұрын

    I bought a tube pedal from a brand called tubesteader, the lightkeeper is awesome. I also have a ibanez TS10 modded with a tube sounds incredible

  • @colinchristensen6603
    @colinchristensen66032 күн бұрын

    I’ve got a few tube drive pedals (Maxon ROD881, Blackstar HT Dual and a Mozztronics TD2) and they’re great but all need specific power packs, are more susceptible to noise and can be unpredictable and hard to control when you get up to gigging levels. So they get left at home and the Indyguitarist Pinnacle stays on the board 😊.

  • @joegill344
    @joegill3443 күн бұрын

    I run a tubescreamer 808 into a Vintage Tube Monster and into a Peavey Valve King. I dime the level and tone on the tubescreamer. The drive is at zero. The Vintage Tube Monster has the gain at about three and my amp gain is about 5. I basically use it as a gain stage and eq. The distortion is beautiful but the clarity is definitely there. It makes my two channel amp effectively a four channel amp.

  • @leftymike5625
    @leftymike56253 күн бұрын

    I do like the drive channel of my Revv G20 which gives me my tube fix. But right now I'm way into the wampler pantheon and the germanium tumnus. I also just put the tumnus deluxe back on my board.

  • @zaturnneo
    @zaturnneo19 сағат бұрын

    One of my favorite old pedals is a Digitech RP7. Something about the tube preamp that gives it the right saturation.

  • @sirhc210
    @sirhc210Күн бұрын

    been checking out this Telecaster, nice to see someone rock some riffs with it, other videos all bluegrass stuff haha

  • @mcinen67
    @mcinen673 күн бұрын

    All of them soundet good in there own way. 😄👍

  • @doonilevitin
    @doonilevitin3 күн бұрын

    I love the pinnacle V2, that’s my main distortion pedal

  • @thibaultabrial
    @thibaultabrial3 күн бұрын

    Nice demo and comparison,Tonebone and Tube Driver are the best in my opinion,thanks a lot ;-)

  • @juanvaldez4043
    @juanvaldez40433 күн бұрын

    I’m using a mod kits Pusuader, it’s point to point, no ic or magic fairy dust. It is an extremely low voltage unit so it gets fuzzy fast.

  • @silcoxone
    @silcoxone3 күн бұрын

    I just got the TC electronics tube driver. It only sounds good cranked. Spits and fizzy sounding at lower settings. When you click it off, it still has some bleed through, I guess, and spits on your single notes when off. Diode bad, maybe? Sweetwater will be getting it back. Thanks! Love the channel!

  • @omikl
    @omikl3 күн бұрын

    I used to have a Mesa V-Twin but never really found a way to use it with my rig. Lat year I picked up an old Ibanez PUE5 Tube which is mains powered and has a "Tube Drive" section with a 12AX7 in it. I suspect that with the main power it is running the 12AX7 at "real voltage" levels. Sounds pretty good though. The same unit also contains the best sounding Tubescreamer that I have, and I have a few.

  • @FastRedPonyCar
    @FastRedPonyCar3 күн бұрын

    Ever played a Soldano Supercharger GTO? I borrowed one for a while from my friend Bruce at Brit-Tone amplification and it was pretty cool. Noisy but tons of gain and according to him, one of the only tube drive pedals that runs at a proper voltage.

  • @manthehelm
    @manthehelm3 күн бұрын

    The Radial trimode and plexitube are some of my favorites! Still regret getting rid of those

  • @DirtyDead1313
    @DirtyDead13133 күн бұрын

    I had an Ibanez PUE5 Tube as my main Pedal Board for 30 years and it had a tube in it. It had my favorite Tube Screamer and my favorite distortion in it that was warm and could handle any style. I wish I could find out why that Tube Screamer and Tube Driver sounded so good. There was no “mid hump” at all.

  • @christianbriere3572
    @christianbriere3572Күн бұрын

    I got an English muffin EHX to mod it. Ended up redoing all circuit in it. Sounds good. I replicated the eq shape of my Sweet honey pedal. Mid focused.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro75553 күн бұрын

    I found my HK Tubeman in my storage tub a few weeks ago. Gonna bust it out and see what do.

  • @SH-pq5zq

    @SH-pq5zq

    3 күн бұрын

    I own 3 of the HK tubeman from the 90’s….great pedal and very versatile….u have to clean the pots regularly (in my experience)

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555

    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555

    Күн бұрын

    @@SH-pq5zq. I’ve been plugging my pedals into my interface and using Genome just for power amp modeling and cab IR. I like it because I can reach over and turn the knobs on the pedal and I don’t get lost in endless virtual amp tweaking.

  • @mrmatthew2443
    @mrmatthew24433 күн бұрын

    The effectrode tube drive is a really good that uses high voltage and three tubes And changing out the tubes makes a big difference .. you might like that one

  • @mrmatthew2443

    @mrmatthew2443

    3 күн бұрын

    Oh and the SUB varidrive is quite good

  • @robertolsen9721
    @robertolsen97213 күн бұрын

    I have the kraken preamp. But recently I bought the Xotic sl drive, didn't use the kraken for 1 month now. But the kraken has a very good marshall type of sound.

  • @RICO_SUAVE21
    @RICO_SUAVE213 күн бұрын

    Vintage tube monster is 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥 and that tone bone!!!

  • @doctersound9630
    @doctersound96303 күн бұрын

    I use a Mesa V-Twin, and the Seymour Duncan Twin Tube, as my tube pedals. Love them both. Just the “Dirt in my chain” - (other effects left out for ease of explanation, my board is huge) Fuzz Face ->JHS NOTAKLON ->TS9 modded with JRC4558D chip -> Keeley modded Blues driver -> Mesa V-Twin -> Seymour Duncan Twin tube -> ZVex Fuzz factory -> Radial twin city switcher -> Mesa Boogie Heartbreaker & Hughes & Kettner Triamp MKII. Mr. Wampler, I would love to hear your thoughts on my dirt choices… am I missing anything? Thinking of adding maybe a (Wampler SLOstorion? Or Diezel VH4? For even highe gain madness) had an MXR Fullbore metal, but could not come to terms with its tone, as a crazy high gain pedal) Thank you for your amazing videos and content and all your pedals/amps etcetera!

  • @tambymeatfoot4421
    @tambymeatfoot44213 күн бұрын

    Been using a Ramble fx marvel drive V3 for my core tone (through a clean amplifier) and it does the Marshall thing beautifully!

  • @SteveTose
    @SteveTose3 күн бұрын

    Big fan of the channel! I don't know why mesa v-twin never gets onto these tube pedal comparisons, I have 2 of them! Main rig is genz benz el diablo and mesa 2x12 half back metal grill slanted. I use v-twin wherever I would use an actual preamp. I do love the synergy stuff but don't own any, yet, and haven't directly compared.

  • @wampler_pedals

    @wampler_pedals

    3 күн бұрын

    You have a great point, I’m going to hit up reverb.com and grab a v-twin asap!

  • @SteveTose

    @SteveTose

    2 күн бұрын

    @@wampler_pedals cool, I'm looking forward to it! If you have trouble finding I could lend you one happily.

  • @Kaip2009
    @Kaip20093 күн бұрын

    Hello Brian Right now i'm enjoying the last circuit I’ve made. A boss sd-1 based circuit with no buffer stages and some tonality options with switchs. By it’s own with some clipping, already sounds good but with a tube pedal in front, with the right amount of drive and level, it sounds even better. The tube based pedal is a fender mtg and because the fender pedal doesn’t allow using the boost alone, i’m testing a fet booster in the middle just for fun :) Maybe it could sound better if i could get sag from el34 power tubes, without using the power amp from the guitar amp. Cheers

  • @stanlindert6332
    @stanlindert6332Күн бұрын

    I like the Tube Monster best. Sounds really smooth.

  • @markhammer643
    @markhammer6433 күн бұрын

    Of course, what's missing from the vast majority of tube-based drive pedals, regardless of the plate voltage they use, is the impact of the power stage. Not ONLY the use of these power tubes vs those ones, but the output transformer itself, and the negative feedback from the speaker side of the OT that is used for the "Presence" control. Steve Daniels generously sent me an Eleca clone of the BK Butler unit sometime ago. OK, but didn't exactly turn my crank. I suspect probably the only tube "pedal" that really nails a tube amp tone is the Garnet Herzog, which is really an entire Fender Champ comparable, modded to be used as a drive unit to feed another amp.

  • @david25876

    @david25876

    3 күн бұрын

    And the speaker. Output stage, iron and speaker contribute a lot.

  • @markhammer643

    @markhammer643

    3 күн бұрын

    @@david25876 Of course, the speaker (and cab) will always shape the sound, whether coming from a pedal or amp, since we don't really have many other ways of hearing the result.

  • @grayaj23
    @grayaj233 күн бұрын

    I still have a couple of the VOX "tube garage" pedals. The clean boost one can make super crispy vox type classic rock edge of breakup sounds if it's hit just right, but it's a PITA to hit just right and thn it had limited usefulness. Fun as a toy, but a Blues Jr does the same thing without as much fuss. IIRC it's the voltage starved type.

  • @trebleboost7

    @trebleboost7

    3 күн бұрын

    Was very curious about their more recent Valvenergy line.

  • @kendickinson8307
    @kendickinson83072 күн бұрын

    Two variables... 1) How do they feel to play on - not just the tone. 2) Personal preference. I say that because I do find a nice tube amp to be a bit more "fun" to play with the natural sag and compression. Note that I'm talking about a really good tube amp (personally, I play a Zinky). On the other hand, I also really like to play pedals direct into the board. Even though the feel of the tube amp give and take is really nice, it's subtle for the money - and I also really love playing in stereo (in fact, on a limited budget, I'll choose the stereo modeling rig most days). On to personal preference: I really didn't hear a huge amount of difference in the tones. If one of them stood out, it would be the Seymour Duncan because it has that low end growl (or mush, depending on how you think about it). That said, I used to hate that flabby low end. Nowadays, I kind of like it because there is a bit of the "amp about to blow up" tone to it. That said, I can get that with a lot of different analog dirt pedals that are out now (interestingly, I have an inexpensive TC Electronic Cinders for exactly that reason). But you said it best. People change. Styles Change. Tastes change. Ears change. I've changed.

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