The wire bridge is not necessary, the diodes are on the same lead so just one wire each will do it

I successfully completed this mod on my own Rat pedal and it sounds so, so fantastic! Thank you Poison Noises so much!

I just did this mod on my Wife's rat 2, it sounds awesome. I decided to only use 2 leds for the mod and its a lot easier to just wire the switch off of one of the diodes instead of the bridging. Great video!

I'm starting to get into building and modding pedals. Very good video. Very informative and not boring! Thanks!

Man love your videos! Super high quality!

Yo dude, thanks for making this video. Its really helpful for someone whose apprehensive about making expensive errors. Subscribed and excited to learn more.

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for following! More to come.

Just found your channel. Great info & presentation. Thank you,

Probably don't need four wires going to the board. One end of both diodes will be going to ground so there would be continuity between the two pads at that end. I'll bet that the other two pads have continuity as well as they'd both have to be in the AC signal path. Multimeter would confirm...

Very helpful, thank you for the clear filming and explanation!

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

Totally! Thank for watching

In the process of building a clone. This most welcome knowledge!

Thanks for the advice, Can you please advise where to get the blue plastic ring spanner and what its called ?

@Loscha

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I came down in the comments to try and find out! I have Tony Peper's Rocket Sockets, and they're amazing, but that blue one looks useful, too

Im about to install the mod myself, and i was wondering if its possible to add a second LED (not as a clipping source) to indicate which mode it's on, so it only lights up when it's on "mod mode" pls do more of these, it's really helpful to get into to whole diy mod thing, thank you!

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you could. You would need a 3dpt switch, and to have the ground of the LED connect when in the flipped position. Similar to a stomp switch on a true bypass pedal.

Great video, if you had the LED's coming out the front of pedal, you would have best looking rat on planet. Just 3 extra holes 🤔

Loving the mod videos

I buyed a rat pedal today and when i tested it with low gain idk why but theres like a ultra distorted sound on the background of the normal sound, can someone help me?

An off topic question, but what are you playing and what into. Can't get that sound even with the stock sound demo you showed.

Poison Noises! Love the name lol

Last time I had a €100 pair of strippers was back in the 70s at my 18th birthday bash !

could you do this mod with any other kind of diode in place of the LEDs?

@PoisonNoises

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutley. Very commonly, some folks use a pair of 1n34a's.

If I don’t have a switch, can I individually replace each stock diode with a led in its existing place on the board? Thanks!

@PoisonNoises

2 жыл бұрын

That will absolutley work. Just make sure that you match the polarity positions of the original diodes.

@orion10x

2 жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises Thanks, good vid!

using 2 LEDs will make it more similar to a turbo rat right?

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

You got it! I'm not sure if the configuration in symmetrical or asymmetrical in the stock turbo rat though. Turbo usually means LED clipping diodes in just about any pedal

I love you Jordan…I’ve told you before😊

What would be the difference if i only used 2 LEDS for the diodes? Great video by the way

@PoisonNoises

11 ай бұрын

It would have less headroom and perceived volume. Clipping harder in a way that would be closer to the original.

You should try using an on off on switch too, so there's another no clipping mode.

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! That middle position is loud in all the right ways.

@RasCuban33

2 жыл бұрын

Same wiring configuration as shown here only with a on off on? Any difference using green instead of red LEDs?

@MrWsaenot

8 ай бұрын

So, with this wiring, the "off" position off the switch would let the signal just run through ? Or would it act as a "kill switch", not letting any signal go through ?

@crimson_sun7274

7 ай бұрын

​@MrWsaenot I'm not that familiar with the Rat circuit, but you still have gain stages in the pedal, so it should act as a boost pedal. Again, not familiar with the circuit and I do not know if there are any clipping in the LM chips. But the presence of clipping diodes suggests that the chips act as gain stages.

Is this close to the JHS mod? I have a packrat, but only use the mod setting. The tone is perfect, but a pedal with top jacks would save space on my pedal board.

@PoisonNoises

3 ай бұрын

Closer to the turbo rat

@donovancogswell8646

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate the feedback.

If i do this, and change the OP07 to a LM308, can i get a Big Rat (Vintage Rat) mod?

@PoisonNoises

Жыл бұрын

The audible difference between an Op07 and an LM308 is completely unnoticeable.

where can I get one of those fancy, blue multi-socket tools?

@PoisonNoises

2 жыл бұрын

Music Nomad makes them. Sweetwater and GC have then.

@brainbonkk

2 жыл бұрын

​@@PoisonNoises i've been looking for one of these for YEARS with no luck. thank you!!!

would this be a good mod to make the rat more bass friendly ?

@PoisonNoises

Жыл бұрын

Definitley to some degree, yes

Ok but there is not reason to solder double cables in the diodes points, just using one diode place (+ / -) would be enough ;)

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

This is true. Thank you for pointing that out.

@percyhornickel

3 жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises That´s ok, Great Channel.

Would this mod also work on a lil Rat? Same 3 LEDs on the switch or 2?

@PoisonNoises

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if the Lil rat is surface mount or not. The schematic should be the same though. 2 LEDs can also work, but will sound different.

@RasCuban33

2 жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises Sweet, going to give it a shot. Saw one modded with a 3 way switch, rather have the smaller footprint. Thanks for making the video👍🏽.

@PoisonNoises

2 жыл бұрын

@@RasCuban33 Try it with an on-off-on switch. That middle position will scream without clippers.

@RasCuban33

2 жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises yep, also I’m going to repaint the side/bottom enclosure with color shift galaxy blue spray paint and change out the knobs if those small black ones come off easily. Swap the center red LED to Green.

@RasCuban33

2 жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises next to near impossible, it’s top mounted and all of the components are microscopic. You need Jewelers equipment to work on the Lil Rat. Going to get a standard size one now.

This is great…absolute beginner here, but when you change the clipping to the LEDs does it actually make them light up? I’m guessing no but if so it would be really cool to see…

@PoisonNoises

2 жыл бұрын

If you put a strong enough signal into it, yes they will. You will notice that one LED will light up brighter than 2 of them in series due to the forward voltage drop.

Boards usually use 3mm LEDs, you use 5mm. Is there any difference, or is it just for convenience?

@PoisonNoises

2 күн бұрын

Just what I had lying around

no need to have four wires going to the LED spot on the PCB since they're electrically connected. Two wires are enough.

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@ChasingTone666

2 жыл бұрын

Can you expand a little more on what you mean. Thanks.

@etrou4

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTone666 The operation that starts at 8:40. You don't need those 4 wires. The pairs that are connected inside the heat shrink are already connected anyway. If you test with a conductivity tester or if you analyse the diagram, you'll find out the + of one diode is connected to the - of the other one.

@thechilibrian7

2 жыл бұрын

@@etrou4 So I could technically run my hookup wire from the two holes of D3, leave D2 blank, and it would work the same?

JHS put your face to your name for me. Your stuff is sick and cool vid

Can we so same thing with spst switch???

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

There are some configurations that can easily be found on Google to swap clipping diodes. However it is usually more convenient to mount them directly to the switch, as is done here.

@lordrahulcool

3 жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises well my questiom is do i really need dpdt switch or i can do same thing with spst switch?

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

It is possible yes, but this video will not show you wear to connect in that context.

@lordrahulcool

3 жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises ill manage that.. thankyou..you are he best And i like ur videos longer. :)

@elmo7sharp9

2 жыл бұрын

SPST VERSION: With the LEDs permanently installed in place of the original diodes, a SPST switch can be used to connect the 1n4148 diodes in parallel WHEN THE SWITCH IS ON. With the 1n4148 diodes switched-in, the signal gets clipped at a lower voltage, so the LEDs (which clip at a higher voltage) have no effect, even though they're still in-circuit. On the circuit board: Replace one original diode with the LED circuit, replace the other original diode with the 1n4148 pair in series with the SPST switch.

Do different coloured LEDs produce different sounds?

@PoisonNoises

Жыл бұрын

They actually do to a degree. Different amounts of compression and headroom.

@martinabe9406

Жыл бұрын

@@PoisonNoises Can you use a LED COD (cluster of diodes) with this mod?

@PoisonNoises

Жыл бұрын

@martinabe9406 I have never done it, but I image it would work. At a certain point the forward voltage drop would be so high that you wouldn't even hear a difference.

What are the specific diodes and LEDs used in the mod?

@PoisonNoises

3 жыл бұрын

The diodes are 1n4148s, the LED are just some common red 5mm.

Waited 14 minutes just to hear what sounded pretty much like a fart in the end. Did you just recorded direct without any cab filter, speaker simulator, IR or any other type of speker??

@PoisonNoises

4 ай бұрын

No I just played it through your phone speaker

@SamVieiraGuitar

4 ай бұрын

@PoisonNoises i was using headphones btw.

@PoisonNoises

4 ай бұрын

@@SamVieiraGuitar Awesome! Thanks for the view and interaction!

@SamVieiraGuitar

4 ай бұрын

@PoisonNoises you should use some kind of amp or speaker simulator because it sounds really bad the way you recorded.

@PoisonNoises

4 ай бұрын

@SamVieiraGuitar Thank God you came here to say this! What's a cab filter? Does it filter out negative comments. And what does IR stand for? Is it an abbreviation for "irrelevant reactions".

Are you saying soddering iron, rather than soldering iron?

@PoisonNoises

2 ай бұрын

Here in upstate NY they sound the same

Sounds like straight in the daw no cab on 🤨

@PoisonNoises

Жыл бұрын

I believe you are correct. It has been too long for me to remember.

I like to focus on my playing and practicing rather then fucking with pedals .

@PoisonNoises

3 ай бұрын

This certainly isn't the video for u then

@EvilBlakey

Ай бұрын

And yet here you are, writing pointless comments on KZread videos.