You forgot to mention how tenacious it is.

Corolla for 67k, Type-R for 77k, Golf R for 88k, these manufacturers are crazy shit enough 😂😂😂😂, So I bought Hyundai sedan N.

@dannywelsh9321

Жыл бұрын

type r kills it

@oraclemiata845

Жыл бұрын

Hardly a kill… 😂

@Carlos-nr3rt

Жыл бұрын

The Type R is the better car on paper but it is significantly more expensive. Personally I don't like that red interior and the look and feel of it is a bit "Gay". Considerably better than their last one however that was just horrible.

@politicoinutil

11 күн бұрын

@@dannywelsh9321 Type R kills your pocket jajajaja

As a owner of both the GR Yaris and i30 sedan N i would say the i30 is more fun.

@JasonISF

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

@@JasonISF ones German engineered

@kiwiklogg

Жыл бұрын

Yeah..why own both?

@liudxdx

Жыл бұрын

@@kiwiklogg two doors four doors FWD AWD why not lol

@mpsftmfw

Жыл бұрын

You are joking right?

I would go for the I30N. For its looks, fun factor, and the extra cash saved over the Corolla...a very difficult combo to ignore.

@dannnsss8034

Жыл бұрын

And sound (i30 N)

@TheSPazCORE

Жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely. It's cheaper and larger/more practical and has the auto option. I would love to see a faster AWD version of the i30n but the rumour is that it's going all electric which is sad.

@xXYannuschXx

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSPazCORE From what I found, they didnt go for AWD because they couldnt fit the LSD and AWD transfer case in the same spot; so they had to chose betwen the two and went with the LSD. I dont think that the i30N will go electric in the next generation. They will retire the aging 2.0L Tetra engine though and replace it with a 2.5L Smartstream. The question is, on which markets they will release that car. The 2.5L is Euro 7 capable, so it will only depend on if Hyundai is willing to spend pay the CO2 taxes. (this is also the reason the N models constantly are out of sale in Europe, because they wait for enough people to buy their EV cars, to offset the CO2 of the N models).

@seventystix6964

Жыл бұрын

After 10 years the Toyota engine will still be running 😁

@JohnLee-db9zt

Жыл бұрын

@@seventystix6964Would bet 10k on that? I would bet Hyundai engine in the N will still be running.

I have a facelift manual I30N with Nlight seats and can confirm steering is NOT heavy, unless you only drive in N mode. If you configure N custom to how you like then suspension and steering are perfectly comfortable for everyday driving.

Nice review, Curt. I’ve always loved your reviews, as they’re not biased toward any particular make of car. 👍

I have a Kona N. Lots of fun and better value for money than the Toyota. ,Downside I live in a town where the only dealership is Toyota. I drive 300 kms to get my Kona serviced.

@fpaThEoNe

2 ай бұрын

dang! that's dedication.

Hot hatches have always been about affordable fun with character. That being the case, The i30N is the only hot hatch on the market.

Agree with your winner. Driving enjoyment after all is what these cars are all about, so the more fun one has to be the winner. The cash saving a bonus. I wonder how the highly strung 3 cylinder Corolla engine would go long term for reliability. That's a massive amount of power!

@Carlos-nr3rt

Жыл бұрын

The Corolla needs to make stupid levels of boost at like 26psi compared to the i30N at about 17-18psi to make up for the smaller engine. My opinion is that a 3 cylinder was a stupid idea, it should have been a 4 cylinder engine.

90k for gr corolla is insane, that thing doesn’t even have electric seats as standard

@thijs5931

Жыл бұрын

Why would you need electric seats?

@samzhang5682

Жыл бұрын

@@thijs5931 because it’s hard to get a proper seat position with manual seats, they have fixed clips and nodes at the bottom instead of electric motors

@limelight777

Жыл бұрын

Toyota...makes me laugh 😆

@johngurney1069

Жыл бұрын

where did you see the 90k price tag.

@johngurney1069

Жыл бұрын

where did you see 90k price tag

In the real world the GR Corolla is much pricier and much harder to get. Added to that and a major factor which isn't covered in this comparison is the track warranty given by Hyundai. That alone puts the i30N far infront of the Corolla imo. But owning a corolla GR would not be a bad thing.

@richiesworld1

Жыл бұрын

"Not be a bad thing"?? In 5 years, the Corolla will still be worth at least twice as much as the Hyundai.

@ajow2828

Жыл бұрын

@@richiesworld1 I guess some people buy cars to drive them instead of investments? I wouldn't say the I30N isn't holding value at the minute. Sure Toyota's typically have strong resale value, I believe the Yaris GR will be considered more valuable than the Corolla over time. Also, if you pay twice the price of a i30N, for a Corolla or Yaris GR in a mere 5 years time, you're an idiot.

@ArmySigs

Жыл бұрын

@@richiesworld1 If you can get one, 700 examples for the entire world market means it's just a pipe dream for most people anyway.

@kenwong3719

Жыл бұрын

And they discontinued i30N hatch now

@limelight777

Жыл бұрын

​@@richiesworld1there you go just go for it bro😂

Never thought I'd say the i30N would be a bargain but in 2023 it is...

This review was quite tenacious if I don't say so myself.

Don't forget if you get the GR you need to get a better sounding exhaust.

I wanted the i20n but Hyundai aren’t taking any orders.until further notice 😢

@xXYannuschXx

Жыл бұрын

"Sadly" these N models are so incredibly popular, that Hyundai has problems with CO2 taxes. They literally have to wait for people to buy their EV offerings, to offset the N sales. Says alot how popular these cars are, which is no surprise at how much fun they offer at their price point. Even not considering price/performance, I would say that the i30N is one of the best hot hatches on the market, it feels raw and not as tame as a Golf GTI.

@MeltingRubberZ28

Жыл бұрын

​@xXYannuschXx I wonder if that's why the Elantra N is still so hard to come by here in the states

It's no fun when the cheapest gr corolla you can get is 90k thanks to mark ups.

I personally like the looks of the i30N more, I have it in Shadow Grey and it’s just stunning

Brilliant review!

Let's see that Sedan N review

Strange it wasn't a comparison with both in manual guise.

GR Corolla is on a different class

@chasingcars

Жыл бұрын

Eh, yes and no. It’s got AWD, it’s got higher limits in some areas, but they run the same pace (as tested) and are very comparable in many ways… and attract similar buyers. Hence: a comparison…

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

How? AWD? Everything else the N is better

@VintageRKO

Жыл бұрын

GR Corolla is the more special car as it feels like an homogolation car, a future classic. 10 years from now it will be more valuable. The Hyundai is a great car but for my money I'd go for the Toyota

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

@@VintageRKO a corolla a classic in 10 years ? Lol good one.

@paulklp8262

Жыл бұрын

​@@VintageRKO GRC is NOT a homologation car. Yaris is.

Woulda been cool to include the new Type R as well.

@purplehazeffc

Жыл бұрын

At close to $75k drive away. Which makes it $17k more than the I30N. From reviews it is a better car, but $17K better??

@550r

Жыл бұрын

and throw in a Golf R as well, then you have all four hot hatches that no-one can actually buy at the moment without a significant markup, or hoping for a cancelled order

@purplehazeffc

Жыл бұрын

@@550r Exactly. They are all just so hard to get atm. I was lucky to be able to get my I20N

@appu1jz

Жыл бұрын

@@purplehazeffc it's not 75k it's $72400 driveway Honda have a fixed price. May as well include it if the corolla which is $67k is included. People definitely cross shop all three.

@appu1jz

Жыл бұрын

​@@purplehazeffc tried to buy gr corolla dealer said no guaranteed spot may get a car in end of 2026 rang dealers everywhere no chance. I30 n hatch not available to order new, i20n not available to order new the dealer wanted $46k for an i20n demo. Almost bought a GR Yaris until I realised I need space I ended up ordering the Type R.

Well I'm jealous as hell after hearing you say the warranty is 5 years and unlimited Km. Here in the USA it's 3 years or 36,000 miles, whichever comes first. So for me a new car warranty lasts about 16 months 😢 In 5 years I would have around 150,000 miles on it. That's a great warranty.

I expect that the Hyundai i20 N would be coming in 2024 with a DCT transmission as well!.

Getting another facelift in 2023 we'll see what that brings.

Hyundai hands down. GR Corolla is no where near Hyundai i30N, Toyota chasing clout 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

my kona N feels good. also

Is that a centre muffler tip ? What is it in the middle ??

14:24 THIS is what I came for 😮

The fun and excited hatch would be Honda Type-R and GR Corolla. And they discontinued i30N hatch now

Does Hyundai still warrant the N for track use, if so that trust in their product.

@chasingcars

Жыл бұрын

Yes, non-competitive only

So the N30 stills the better car , just like I expected

I love the feisty i30n ❤

Would love to see the i30n vs the fl5

Does Toyota offer warranty if you use the GR on the track?

You have to factor in that the GR Corolla is basically unobtainable from Toyota New Zealand and you are getting robbed NZD$85,000 from a re-seller for a car of unknown origin. The i30N is way cheaper and a slightly bigger car gives it a much bigger more "Normal" size interior. Also forget about just the Hp, the i30N has way more torque due to the extra cylinder and its much lighter as it has no 4WD. When I took and i30N for a test drive I have to confess I didn't notice any torque steer and other reviews pretty much say the same. I think you need to research the i30N E-Diff, it basically eliminates torque steer and I think you are automatically assuming it has torque steer because its a FWD. I have ordered an i30N manual but the wait time is at least 12 months but its $20,000 cheaper than the GR Corolla which is pretty much priced here for what a Honda Civic Type R. I'm pretty sure that when spending $80,000 buyers will go Honda.

Corolla all the way❤ quality, resale performance, handling and quite inside unlike the i30 which can get trashy over rough roads and the tire noise is borderline unbearable. Great review.

I'll take the Corolla thank you. Cape Town South Africa 🌍♥️

So if you want to track your car and go hard, modify it, get the Gr, engine can handle over 700hp with stock internals. I have the g yaris Rallye. If you want quick zippy fancy car not looking to modify i30n and want to drive it till the next new thing is out.

Laughs in Kona N top of the range for $54k new 😂 You can keep your GR Rental Range for 67-87k

@richiesworld1

Жыл бұрын

...and in 5 years, it'll be worth half that. The GR will still be highly sought after, and have FAR higher resale. 🤷🏿‍♂️

@JC94

Жыл бұрын

@@richiesworld1 if you’re buying a performance car for resale, you can fuck right off, let’s be honest

@JohnLee-db9zt

Жыл бұрын

@@richiesworld1 ⁠ Oh do you know Mr Genius? both are rental cars at its core. Only brainwashed fan girls like you will overspend for a 5 year old econo box Toyota with factory mods. At least Hyundai won’t try to rip you off from the outset.

@RRR_Motorsports

Жыл бұрын

And have shaken itself to bits with a 3 cyl

I've never heard a man say tenacious so many times in one video. Also, 9 grand? Haven't seen a single corolla sell for "MSRP" haha

Yes 🙌 ❤

Fizzy? What does that mean?

Tenacious

N❤❤

You guys are lucky to get the i30N because Hyundai doesn't offer the any hot hatchback. We only get lane Sedans!

GR Corolla is a lot more fun than the N in my preference but the N is still fun in it's own way😩

Hey, kids who are going to buy a GR are not interested in flummery, they want fast furry, that’s it…… I have a GR Yaris….and I LOVE IT !! Full stop …..😁😁👍

The i30n sedan is better than both of them

@eponymous7910

Жыл бұрын

It's sooooooo ugly though

@BenGoodbrand

Жыл бұрын

Just have to close your eyes until you're seated in the drivers seat

@steeley_

Жыл бұрын

@@eponymous7910 As an owner... I have to agree. It makes up for what it lacks in looks by being an absolute hoot!

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

@@eponymous7910 subjective. I think it looks better than both of these cars. Especially in white.

@paulklp8262

Жыл бұрын

​@@eponymous7910 Cockpit in Sedan N is better than both hatch N and GRC.though

GR Corolla definitely better. 🚙

@spacepatriots6163

Жыл бұрын

Bulshit 😂

@misamisatv

Жыл бұрын

@@spacepatriots6163 Check the leaderboards on some pro and amateur competitions 🏁

@youcangetsum6871

Жыл бұрын

@@misamisatvthey put down the same times they’re not even 1 second apart on trackthat’s how close they are that’s if the gr doesn’t over heat it’s diff.

@kenwong3719

Жыл бұрын

GR is is definitely better

@misamisatv

Жыл бұрын

@@youcangetsum6871 source?

Three cilinders, 300 cv is a bad combination

Do you know that EU and NA reviewers disappointed to Corolla.

GR Corolla is $87K drive away here in Melb.....😭😭😭

@chasingcars

Жыл бұрын

Big cash for a Corolla.

@richieduck67

Жыл бұрын

What planet are you on its 62k plus onroads

@purplehazeffc

Жыл бұрын

@@richieduck67 It's call Dealer mark up. The $62K is Toyota's RRP.

@ArmySigs

Жыл бұрын

@@richieduck67 What planet are YOU on? When they are only making 700 this year for the whole world do you think anyone is going to be paying RRP?

@drsnowmon

Жыл бұрын

@@richieduck67 Which dealer gave it to you for that price?

Its data not daata!

Ridiculously overpriced. I bought a Corolla brand new 10 years ago for under half that price. Is this really worth that much more 😂

@limelight777

Жыл бұрын

it's bullshit price for Toyota! They think they are the same level as BMW or Merc😆

Hyundai I30N >>> GR corolla

The GR Corolla really needs a better gearbox. I'm all for manual only, but give this thing an 8-Speed dual clutch systemm.

If you want to appeal to the UK please also provide mpg etc ❗️🧐

@purplehazeffc

Жыл бұрын

Just like us who use L/100km. No car reviewers that use mpg (UK, USA) provide us with L/100km That's why we have to use Google to calculate.

The GR is for a driving enthusiast. Its not built for value for money folks. The Hyundia looks Beautiful. At this moment, a 3 cylinder pssses a GTI or R line. Unheard of and given if you have the funds.

The GR YARIS is my pick over both

@JohnLee-db9zt

Жыл бұрын

Even with the 10k difference in msrp? 20-30k more irl?

Is saying tenacious every sentence a chasing cars contract clause? 😖😔

america with no I30N

@Carlos-nr3rt

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but you guys get the Golf R in a MANUAL over there the rest of us get the DCT that I refuse to buy. If we had the Golf R then I definitely would have taken one for a test drive.

You need to drive the GR hard to appreciate it it's like an angry Pitbull waiting to be let off the leash

I prefer the look & feel of the Hyundai I30. With a proper 6 speed manual, non of this automatic nonsense not happy about the I30 being an auto in this test. Arrr bugger the auto a proper drivers car can never be an auto.

The GR Corolla will heat soak on track. The engine is peaky, and its tail won’t rotate as well around the corner like the N.

@Carlos-nr3rt

Жыл бұрын

What heat soaks on the GR Corolla is the centre diff coupling clutch pack. This overheats and drops out leaving you in 2WD. Known problem just Google it.

First of all its kind of pointless bec ause you cant buy either, the Hyundai is great value compared to corllas price though both are expensive, although not a hatch, the wrx seems very good value in comparison, but the corolla will hold its value better and be reliable and durable, id go with the corolla

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

WRX lol?

Poor review ,all weather fun v only good in the dry= more fun on any given day.

What a stupid comparison. FWD vs AWD

That corolla seems ridiculously overpriced.

@akotoada

Жыл бұрын

Because it is

@seannedelko3497

Жыл бұрын

Similar priced to type R

@Carlos-nr3rt

Жыл бұрын

Its WAY overpriced because they hyped the hell out of it and then told everyone they are only making a few hundred. The problem with AWD is that it automatically adds like $10K to the cost of the car. Technology has moved on now with the E-Diff and torque vectoring so any advantage AWD had in the dry is now gone and so is much of the wet advantage. The price should be about the same as the Subaru WRX, its simply not a way better car.

@seannedelko3497

Жыл бұрын

@@Carlos-nr3rt with similar price as type R then the AWD becomes the value.