The standard frame rate for wedding videos was 30i until around 2011, and the style was more of a live video format. Before then, it was a lot harder to get a film look if you weren't actually using film.

Hey Jaired, great video! Good info on frame rates and particularly about just shooting the whole wedding in 60fps. I have done the same thing when filming a family event with 30-60 people and all of the chaos that ensues... bounced back and forth between frame rates and forgotten which shots I filmed in what rate or forgotten to go back to 60 when I wanted to slow the shot down. I'm new to filmmaking and particularly wedding filmmaking and have one at least one I'm shooting early this summer so I'll be looking forward to more content coming out.

That last tip is excellent. Thank you!

arguably the best video on FPS on youtube. subscribed!

Very informative and helpful, thank you for sharing this.

thank you for breaking this down

Just wanted to say your channel is super informative! Thanks so much, you are helping me prepare to shoot for my first wedding!

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m so glad these videos have helped in some way!

Love your channel Jaired. I've shot over 200 weddings as a photographer and last year started doing some video. So I feel as voracious about learning the technical fine points of video as I did photo 10+ years ago. I found your channel while looking for Zoom f2 reviews (great btw). Thanks for this video and breaking fps down. Cheers!

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

Thank so much, Michael! That is awesome that you are coming from the photo world and getting started with video. I love that! Glad to have you!

Dude, this is such a good video

great video,thank you!

Great presentation!

Really good break down here! I like the breakdown of how to blend different FPS for style. Also that new intro is so clean!

@Anonymous-506

3 жыл бұрын

Actually...

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous-506 🤟🏻🤟🏻 Thank you good sir!

Well done!

Awesome video Jaired! Heard you mentioned PluralEyes at the end - would love to learn more about that - I tried a trial of it but I couldn't get it to sync right (maybe it was the framerate issue you mentioned!), and it took 5ever to manually line it all up. Thought I could just use the FCPX Multicam function instead but it makes my old macbook blow up haha

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I totally understand that! That is a great idea for a video. I have tried Multicam in the past as well and I really do prefer Plural eyes. The only downside is of course the Multiple frame rates not syncing correctly. Which is just another reason I keep everything uniform on the day. Thanks for reaching out!

Great advice

Tnx master👊🏻

Great video man

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Great Video

I like to shoot in 30 and edit in 24. I like the semi-slow motion you get with that, and Optical Flow in Resolve is good enough to slow things down more if I need to. It also allows for a unified resolution and color space instead of having to make the choice between 10-bit and 4k if I wanna shoot in 60.

@visionsunlimitedvideoprodu415

3 ай бұрын

What software are you using?

@zachschermerhorn8090

3 ай бұрын

@@visionsunlimitedvideoprodu415 I use both Davinci Resolve and Premiere Pro

this kind of wedding channles are blessing for me

@WaywardNorth

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome to hear! Thank you so much!

I used to do 60 fps for everything but if you/I decide to use it for a 24 fps timeline for the normal footage the shutter speed is still at 120 from the 60 fps. Now the footage looks like saving private Ryan. Too gritty for a wedding in my opinion. But it’s a constant battle. Great video and thanks for helping the community.

@ActiveSufi

11 ай бұрын

Having this exact problem rn

@PNWMOTION

11 ай бұрын

I literally thought that when I was watching some of his wedding videos, the normal speed footage looks like saving private Ryan, it just looks like it was filmed as an action movie vs 24 fps just looks more natural. But I get having that flexibility in post to either keep it normal or slow it down.

@royaltykidstv

22 күн бұрын

Just edit on a 60fps timeline, but don’t slow anything down if you recorded everything at 60fps.

Started loving your videos... ❤❤❤

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@TheDavidlezcano

3 жыл бұрын

Same!

I flirted with 24, and while it's classic, nostalgic, traditional, I find 30 to have more immediacy, as if we re-living the wedding TODAY. So I use 30 (or 60 slowed down to 30).

I’ve got my first wedding shoot this weekend and I’m nervous as hell, so I’m seriously considering shooting everything’s in 50 (Pal as I’m in the UK) for a 25fps timeline. Just gives me one less thing to worry about on the day.

@WaywardNorth

Жыл бұрын

You got this!! I film all day in 60FPS. That way I don’t stress about switching it up

Hey great video. I'm a photographer but was asked to do a highlights video at short notice. My client knows its my first one and she's asked for music over the top anyway she sent me a video example she loved and the whole thing seems slowed down so I wondering about shooting it all at anywhere between 30 and 60 frames per second rather than 24 because it might not suit what she's after would love to hear your thoughts

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thanks a bunch. I would recommend shooting it in 60FPS. Double your frame rate to 1/125 and whenever you go to edit/process/conform in your editor, you’ll have smooth slow motion.

Great points! Fitting 60 into a 24 FPS timeline without slowing down is certainly tricky for all. In premiere there is an option called “optical flow” which smoothes out the jitter and sharp motion blur. Do U use or apply anything in final cut in this scenario ?

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! That’s true I have heard about optical flow for smoothing out 24fps. There definitely is an option for this effect in FCPX. Great tip!

@sanellibic9569

2 жыл бұрын

in my case I have tried all the tricks and I can not get smooth footage fitting 60p to a 24p timeline, it's just jittery and I hate it. Fitting 60p to a 30p timeline is another thing, that works perfectly, or even 50p to a 25p timeline.

@professionalpotato4764

2 жыл бұрын

@@sanellibic9569 That's the only way to do it. Nobody in this world owns a true 24p monitor unless they are video editors with adaptive framerate monitors. All online publishing platforms use 30p so 24 looks like crap. 25p on a 30fps screen is pretty bad too.

@Garbid

Жыл бұрын

I have a6600. Just set m1 for 24 and m2 for 60p. Hlg3. Just one turn of dial and ready)

@royaltykidstv

22 күн бұрын

@@sanellibic9569isn’t better to just leave your timeline at 60fps if you shoot all footage in 60fps? I did that and my footage without slowing anything down looks very cool.

Awesome explanation!! Can I ask what song was playing at 4:00?

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Of course, it was "Strangers Again" by Paul Moody. You can find this one on Musicbed.com!

shoot 60 in a 24 timeline is the key!

@visionsunlimitedvideoprodu415

3 ай бұрын

In FCP?

@siyanfilms

3 ай бұрын

@@visionsunlimitedvideoprodu415 yes

Hye nice explanation. Want to ask if i am using 60fps the shutter should be double but can i use 100 for shutter as 120 have light flickering issues sometimes.Thank you in advance.

@WaywardNorth

9 ай бұрын

Yes you can! I do from time to time. Oftentimes if the flicker is too dominant I’ll drop to 24 fps so I don’t compromise quality

Great video, thanks 😃 when you shoot everything in 60, for the footage that you don’t slow down, do you convert this to 24 fps? Or do you leave it in the timeline as is?

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

I leave in the timeline as is. Biggest tip is to make sure you are editing in a 24fps timeline so that on export everything plays back normal

@royaltykidstv

22 күн бұрын

Did you play around with this? If so, how do you shoot now?

Do you deliver in 4k? or 1080? Seems impractical to film at 120fps in 4k say with the as7ii?

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

I’m using each platform differently but generally I am delivering my films in 4K, 1080p for IG, Tik Tok, 4K for KZread and Facebook. I use WedFlow for delivering my wedding films and it is 4K friendly so why not give them the best viewing experience possible!

Please when shooting wedding ..Can someone increase the Shutter speed..even after you have already double it to suit the frame rate used ..Esp shooting event that has alot of movement

@professionalpotato4764

2 жыл бұрын

Generally yes. You can do it in a pinch. Up to maybe 1-ish stops is fairly unnoticeable.

FCP X does not allow me to change back and forth between frame rates in editing in a project / timeline. Any FCP users out there with advice ? 😊

question sir, so making a 60fps footages of almost the whole wedding (for example) and lay it out in the 24timeline, how it's possible to make a 60fps look more cinematic in 24timeline without slowing it down. thanks!

@Lit01Mel

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same question!

@jwate

2 жыл бұрын

It’s best to film audio portions of your footage in 24 fps. Only shoot in 60 fps when you know you want to slow it down. Remember to double your shutter speed to help with proper motion blur. I used to shoot everything in 60 fps and throw it in a 24 fps timeline thinking my editor would take frames out and it would be fine, but it looks weird unless you slow it down.

@wangmedia

Жыл бұрын

I also think it looks weird with everything in 60 fps. Like shot on an iphone. Prefer to plan ahead and know which parts will look good in slow mo and which won’t.

Are you shooting with an anamorphic lens?

My camera at 4K 60fps goes into a super 35 crop. Would you recommend I use it and get wider lenses or stick to full frame at 24fps?

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

I say embrace the crop! If your style fits shooting in 60 all day opposed to mixing up frame rates per moment. I say let it lead you through the decision making process and lean into it. I used the GH5 for years and got very comfortable with the crop factor. Full frame or not, as long as we are being intentional with our framing and composition, we have two legs and feet to move around and compensate where we need to!

@ChrisFlores22

2 жыл бұрын

@@WaywardNorth I’ll give it a shot with a wedding I’m filming tomorrow! I used to film 1080 60 all day on the a7iii and that was so much easier lol with Panasonic 60fps is supposed to give me better AF performance anyway. Thanks!

@Koala.Lumpur

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisFlores22 How did you find the end quality for 60fps 1080, particularly in low light. The A7iii 4k is soo much nicer, but caps at 30 fps which is frustrating haha.

For ceremony you prefer 30 or 60p?😋

You can SOMETIMES shoot in 60fps and then convert it to 24 or 30 fps, BUT, keep in mind that quick camera movements that look good in 60fps often look really bad in 30p or (especially) 24p because those frame rates aren't fast enough for those kinds of movements and they'll look stuttery. You might also need to add a motion blur effect after you downconvert the frame rate (to simulate the 1/48 second shutter speed that you would often use on a camera while shooting at 24 fps).

@setphstudio6

Жыл бұрын

How?

@AJ-on-youtube

Жыл бұрын

@SETPH STUDIO because 24p and 30p don't have as many frames per second as 60p, things that move fast will either look choppy or get blurred (depending on the camera's shutter speed). When you move your camera quickly at these frame rates, EVERYTHING in your shot becomes blurry or choppy. This is more noticeable with telephoto lenses because more things are moving through your lenses faster when you pan at a tight focal length. It's less niticeable with wide-angle lenses. Because of the higher frame rate, 60p is less prone to motion blur or choppiness, so you can move the camera more quickly and still have a smooth, relatively clear shot. If you convert one of these shots to 30p or 24p, it will no longer have enough frames per second for smooth movement at that speed, and because shutter speed is not a factor once the video has already been recorded, your footage could become choppy.

@royaltykidstv

22 күн бұрын

@@AJ-on-youtubeso just leave your timeline at 60fps right? That’s if audio doesn’t really matter.

@AJ-on-youtube

22 күн бұрын

​@royaltykidstv your timeline should be set to the frame rate you want to deliver. If you shot your video at 60p, and you want to deliver a 60p product, you should use a 60p timeline. If you shot your video at 60p and you want to deliver a 24p product, use a 24p timeline (you may have to apply an effect to simulate the kind of motion blur that is often used at 24fps, because 60p has less motion blur). If you didn't shoot your footage at 60p, there's not much advantage to using a 60p timeline unless you're going to use interpolation software to fake 60p (which can sometimes look unnatural), or, sometimes if you're deinterlacing 30i content (which uses two interlaced "fields" per frame, which gives it the motion look of 60p). 60p or 30i will give you a "real life" or "live TV" look (or you can use the extra frames of 60p to create smooth slow motion). 24p looks more like a film production, and 30p is kind of halfway between.

@royaltykidstv

22 күн бұрын

@@AJ-on-youtube I see, I recorded at 60fps and edited 60fps timeline and exported at 60, it looked great.

If you shoot everything in 60fps with a 180 shutter angle of 120 doesn’t that ruin the smooth motion blurring if and when you bring the clip into 24fps on the timeline?

@royaltykidstv

22 күн бұрын

What did you figure out on this?

Should i Edit 60fps, 30fps and 24fps in 24fps timeline for weddings?

@WaywardNorth

5 күн бұрын

I edit in 24fps and film in 60fps

so it's best to shoot it all in 60fps and then process on 24 for more optional results? Never heard you mentioned 30fps, is that not an option?

@rozierfilms

2 жыл бұрын

No, only shoot your broll at 60 or 120 fps, film everything else at 24 fps...30 fps wont look cinematic, needs to be 24 fps...one other note, be sure to double your shutter speed when changing your fps, so if you are shooting 24fps, use 50 then change it if you shoot 60 fps...plan your shots, dont just film the whole thing at 60 or 120 fps...your files will be too big, will be inefficient when editing

@professionalpotato4764

2 жыл бұрын

@@rozierfilms That's what you've been led to believe. The huge problem with 24fps is the jitter. 99% of all screens in the world run on 30 fps intervals. All social media platforms playback at a base of 30fps. When you upload your 24fps video (or 25p), it is transcoded into 30p, throwing in 1 duplicated frame every 4 frames. This creates a lot of jitter and shake in your footage. The best way to do it is work with a 30p timeline, and 60 or 120p for slowmotion. I work with Disney, cutting, QC-ing, redistributing shows shot on REDs, ARRI, doesn't matter. All 24p footage looks like crap when it is not delivered in true 24p monitors. Monitors that adapt frame rates are still extremely rare and will be for the next decade or two.

@professionalpotato4764

2 жыл бұрын

Shoot in 60p or 120p and edit in 30p timeline. 99% of the world runs on monitors with refresh rates divisible by 30, not 24. Always shoot in the framerate best suited for delivering to your audience. Nobody brings a true 24fps monitor or projector to weddings. It's all going to be on commercial 60hz screens.

Maybe I missed it but what are exporting in? 4K or 1080 or both?

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Yes, I do export in both resolutions. 4K for KZread/Client Viewing and 1080 for IG. Until IG can support 4K video, this has been my process so far.

How much memory would you need to do whole wedding day at 60fps 4K?

@WaywardNorth

Жыл бұрын

In this day and age a 256GB should suffice for the entire wedding day! Here are a few of my favs: amzn.to/3VcxHje amzn.to/41FHNLY

if I shoot 60 fps, what will be my project setting 29.9 ?

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

You can set your project timeline to be whatever you would like. I prefer 24p so that you get a smoother, more cinematic playback.

if you record in 60fps , export in 24 fps ?

@WaywardNorth

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed

Couldn't you also shoot in 120 and then speed it up in the timeline as well? 4k60 always look janky when slowed down to 24 in my eyes.

@WaywardNorth

3 жыл бұрын

As long as your shutter speed is double your frame rate - when slowed down it should all look smooth. I guess technically you adjust the percentage to fit your needs. 60 for me serves best for normal speed and slow motion within my edit.

@glennparker8247

3 жыл бұрын

@@WaywardNorth I shoot on a bmpcc4k and 6k, both which have shutter angles set 180 so I don't need to worry about adjusting the shutter speed. I am only just now getting into weddings and have my first shoot next weekend. I was thinking of doing it all 2.6k 120fps and speeding up whatever other parts I want in post.

@rozierfilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@glennparker8247 film all non slow mo shots at 24 fps and change shutter speed to 50, then shoot all slow mo shots at 60 or 120 fps with double the shutter speed...you have to plan your shots, its too much to film an entire wedding in slow mo, your files will be too big, its not practical...shoot your broll in slo mo only basically

can you shoot at 60 with 1/30 shutterspeed?

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

You can but you'll create a lot of motion blur and slowing down in post will look stuttery. Its always best to shoot double your frame rate for your shutterspeed.

@JesAbella

2 жыл бұрын

@@WaywardNorth thank you so much! 🤗

Can you put a 60fps shot in a 24p timeline and not slow it down? Will it look ok?

@WaywardNorth

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this is what I do all the time. It looks normal!

@chrisserino9757

Жыл бұрын

@@WaywardNorth awesome thank you! We just upgraded from the 5dmkiv’s to the R6mkii’s. 4K/60 will still over heat but filming 4K/24 for the ceremony and speeches will help. Thank you! Great content!

@ennis437

Жыл бұрын

Mine looks very jittery when playing 60 FPS in a 24FPS timeline.

@WaywardNorth

Жыл бұрын

@@ennis437 what does your shutter look like? Generally, you want this to be double your frame rate.

@ennis437

Жыл бұрын

@@WaywardNorth I am using an 180 Degree shutter angle

Me listening to the intro: Jarid? Lower Third: nah fam. “Jaired”

@WaywardNorth

2 жыл бұрын

Haha 😂

24fps should never be used unless you have projectors or some sort of screen that can playback in 24fps. The problem is that 99% of playback devices run on a 30fps intervals. This results in extremely jerky footage as there is 1 duplicated frame every 4 frames. Record in the native playback setting of the device the film is going to be watched on. Shoot in 60, edit in a 30p timeline for best results.

I highly disagree. If you shoot 24 you'll find issues with temporal based repairs.