Which EV is Better? | 2022 Panamera e-Hybrid
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The 2022 Porsche Panamera 4 e-Hybrid Platinum Edition is more than a long name. It's a plug-in performance sedan (ok hatchback) that promises a commute as quick or as quiet as you like. In a world dominated by fast EVs, is there a place for a fast plug-in?
$115,000 base, $127,000 as tested.
2.9-liter twin-turbo V6 / E-machine
455HP @ 5400RPM / 516lb-ft of torque @ 1800RPM
8-speed automatic transmission.
AWD
5,000lbs
52MPG combined (battery + engine) highway, 22MPG gas only
RANGE: 18 miles according to the EPA. Gas range is 506 miles highway.
0-60: 3.4s
CHARGING RATE:
- 240V is 3 hours.
- On a 110 outlet: Level 1 takes 10-12 hours
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Totally agree with you that we need more Plug in Hybrids than we have. EV for daily commute and have gas for road trips.
“Like Charlie Sheens table….uh….a little dusty” 😂
I like the high production quality on this video.
I love Zacks individual reviews
@Twobarpsi
Жыл бұрын
No. No. No.
@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
Жыл бұрын
I prefer Matt's solo reviews
@Twobarpsi
Жыл бұрын
@@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 same
The quality of this video is noticeably higher, great production Zack!
Here in old continent we typically have car taxes based on CO2 emissions, so the most popular Panamera is the e-Hybrid.
@Cloxxki
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, oddly the Taycan starts cheaper than a Panamera which is counter intuitive as EVs tend to be more costly than equivalent petrol cars.
Great commentary Zach! 👍🏻
Nice insights . Nice review. Thank you
3.4secs 0-60 AND over 50mpg…. Amazing…. Just a shame Porsche haven’t updated the looks of the Panamera to make it as attractive as the Taycan :(
@stevemiller1626
Жыл бұрын
The Taycan design works because it’s much smaller and lower to the ground. There is very little usable space in it. Panamera much more useable for an “everything” car.
Wow. What a great review! Can I have more reviews like this?
@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
Жыл бұрын
glugglugglul?
@Twobarpsi
Жыл бұрын
No.
@Twobarpsi
Жыл бұрын
@@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 haha!
@kevindimauro9689
Жыл бұрын
A big thanks for mentioning the mpg . It is important. Most reviews of hybrids totally ignore this especially with high priced cars. It’s not just about the cost of petrol. It’s about emissions of CO2.
nice video, sweet panerai!
Did Zack get married? If so, congrats. Digging the additions to your videos. Hope the extra work translates to views.
@flacjacket
Жыл бұрын
Ring is on the wrong hand, wedding rings go on your left ring finger, unless this is a RHD car with the video flipped he has it on his right hand.
@indiebekonn
Жыл бұрын
@@flacjacket not in every culture though. I mean, you’re probably right but left hand isn’t a rule for everyone.
I already spec'ed out my Porsche Panamera 4S e-hybrid. The perfect colors both inside and out, the perfect interior of saddle brown and black dash just what "I" want! Total, $163K large! Just waitin on that lottery to come thru!
I’m picking up my panamera 4s e-hybrid next week! Can’t wait
Good voice. Great report. Thanks good job
I love the performance hybrid concept, the 2nd gen NSX was flawed but I dug its concept a lot, the 296 is the most exciting Ferrari to me since the FF. I know from experiencing the Prius plug-in that it doesn't take many miles of EV-only range to become many, many miles of ICE/EV-blended driving that has good torque feel and economy all at once. It's such a smart way to go IMO, well worth a few hundred pounds in batteries and electrical gubbons for the benefits you get. I second some other commenters who want this to happen in 911s/Boxsters/etc. Plug-in performance hybrids deserve to take the 2020s by storm, hopefully it happens!
@muthukumaranc
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how NSX was ahead of its time.
@TML34
Жыл бұрын
The 296 doesn't get better mileage because the hybrid, please. Neither does the NSX, all the hybrid nonsense did was make the car heavier, more complicated and less fun. Twin-turbo engines don't need more torque. The hybrid in this Panamera is better though because it actually has mpg benefits due to the larger plug-in battery, but for supercars where lightness and agility is what matters, adding battery power is just an engineering exercise with no real upside.
@Trendyflute
Жыл бұрын
@@TML34 This video 1000% disagrees with you, since the highway mileage is better than double with EV charge than without on this car, and I know from experience you get about 30 more MPG when you plug in a plug-in Prius versus just driving it around on gas. Physics also makes it clear that there is ~6x more energy loss in ICEs than with EVs, electric power wins hands-down on efficiency by a mile. The NSX and 296 weren't fuel economy focused in their calibrations but they still gave more performance for less fuel, and the physics of hybrids completely disagrees with your ignorant opinion.
I've always loved this car . Beautiful
My Cayenne Hybrid is built and waiting for a boat to come to the US. I Can’t wait. The hybrid power train is perfect for the Cayenne.
@PaulTC777
Жыл бұрын
the maximum acceleration is only achieved when the batteries are at 100%
@joetacchino4470
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulTC777 Have you actually done testing on this?
@PaulTC777
Жыл бұрын
@@joetacchino4470 Ive tested it on a different hybrid car, a Peugeot 508 306hp hybrid by Peugeot Sport. It went from 5" 0-60 to 7'5". If you do lots of city driving (stop and go) the battery is constantly being charged so don't worry, you will always have the acceleration when you need it.
I have this one and the Taycan GTS love both excellent cars
well executed plug in hybrid a the best for many. When you buy a pure ev you are mostly paying for a supply problem with mining and battery production.
This is a great daily and if I wasn't looking for the RS3 as a daily then this car would be on my list. I just like smaller nimble cars even in my daily but surely it's a great car.
I’m surprised Bose didn’t incorporate noise canceling.
3.4 0-60 seems like its for the GTS or S E Hybrid.. I would double check that figure. Still quick and still interested in this vehicle. Porsche website says around 4.2 secs. Still great!
@M4X1
Жыл бұрын
You are correct, but Porsche always understate their times. It’s probably 3.9
The more I look at it, the more I love it🤗. Next year, I will undoubtedly purchase this beaut, and I cannot wait😊❤. I'm really happy I invested in the financial market, it's paying off good. Heaven bless Debra Pace is for her invaluable support.
@GargiPatnaikkk
Жыл бұрын
@@Stephen25616 She uses a crazy trading strategy that works like crazy. She really good, I just met her a few months back and the result is already mind blowing
@Beaver4422
Жыл бұрын
Wow, it's amazing to hear about Debra here... I've been hearing a lot about her on Twitter. I would love to invest but I've been wondering how good she is. Please, what's her requirements?
@PaulLeed
Жыл бұрын
Frankly, Debra should be counted as one of the best in the financial and trading industry... I started with just $4k, so far I have withdrawn 25k which I channeled to my Airbnb business.
@GargiPatnaikkk
Жыл бұрын
@@Beaver4422 She will break things down for you... This is her Telegam-user below👇
@GargiPatnaikkk
Жыл бұрын
"Debra_Pace" ✔✔
I couldn't agree more. Plug in hybrids are the answer and need to be more common.
I remember the utter panic I had the first time I saw the rev counter just go dead cruising on the highway :-) - sail mode, waaaaah!
"Looks like Charlie Sheen's table..." I spit out my coffee.
KLAAPPPPPMAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN for the W on the review.
PHEV sporty cars FTW!
1:11 those sidewalls had really hard life!
@MichaelF1
Жыл бұрын
Life of presscar 😂 Porsche “ *CPO* ” “ *ONLY 3700” miles* “ Actual status: beaten and put up wet.
I still think BMW did an awesome job on the i8, nearly 10 years ago. Full electric mode up to 70mph and a great zippy 1.5 engine. For £50k that’s my choice at the moment. Nice video, awesome car
@M4X1
Жыл бұрын
It’s great if you only need two seats.
Agree with the rear-wheel steering!
@The_Stanman
Жыл бұрын
Ya I've got in on my 992 and it's hard to go back once you've experienced it.
@TML34
Жыл бұрын
pointless option. just another thing to go wrong.
@KalleSWBeck
Жыл бұрын
Once you have rear wheel steering you can’t go back
I have a 04 M3 and plan on keeping it forever. I have left it to a good friend in my will.
@lappu911
Жыл бұрын
Does he know that he is in the will?
I hate adaptive cruise, always set it to regular cruise control. I can see and will slow down when needed , I don't want to drop from 75 to 65 because the car 100yds away is going 65. I guess at 40 I'm old cause I just don't understand the usefulness of adaptive cruise control. Cancel and resume were enough.
The Sport Turismo version is somehow even more in "a competition of one."
I'll wait for next generation 2024
Plug in hybrid sport cars will be a thing for a while.
Why do all the cars you test have Florida plates if your in California?
I want a hybrid 911.
@TheSmokingTire
Жыл бұрын
It's coming! One day...
@4esttube
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSmokingTire It will probably be the first 2-ton 911 as well.
@TML34
Жыл бұрын
why? so it can be heavier, less agile and cost more?
@dantem306
Жыл бұрын
@@TML34 because its cool, and i like the green brakes.
@TML34
Жыл бұрын
@@dantem306 The only thing I notice is how weird it feels, it's not confidence inspiring to me.
Zach rules
0-60 is not 3.4s but 4.3s :)
They’re really expensive (as most cars are here in Aus) but they depreciate nicely and it makes them a bargain compared to a 911. I keep having rude thoughts about them but am just a bit wary about maintenance costs in a used one. But there’s an older model supercharged hybrid (non Phev) which they only did for a couple of years which looks good. Kids are at home for 8 more years yet! I can get dogs in or a bike in with the seats down and its not an SUV. The lift back is a rarity. Although hof course a Kia Stinger does the same thing and is a way more sensible option (minus the hybrid) but cheaper and with a warranty but a Kia badge. Ho hum I don’t know! Good review Zac 👍
@The_Stanman
Жыл бұрын
Depreciation is significant and likely to increase over the next year as used car prices continue to decline. Tack on an aftermarket warranty you've got a great worry-free car!
@zackklapman too much gesticulating, I can't see what watch you're wearing. 😉
Wind noise is comparable to my 2007 Honda civic 😂
Is that a Weiss watch I see on your wrist? 👀
@TheSmokingTire
Жыл бұрын
Indeed! My favorite.
@IanHutchison
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSmokingTire Great choice! I love my American Issue 42mm and I'm hoping to pick up a 38pm Standard with Date in the next couple years 👍
Weird that this one is heavier than a Tesla Model S Plaid. Hybrids are difficult to make light I guess. Ask Formula One :)
I still don't get the purpose of the hybrid system. Everything this car does it can do without the added hybrid cost and complication.
Lol someone has exceeded the useable surface area on those front tires.
My parents bought a new Buick in 68 it cost less than the paint on that Porsche..
Offcourse theTaycan is better, but ah well, at least this is a plug in. And then there is also the Panamera Turbo S e-Hybrid
Those ps4s look sad 😂
@EvoraGT430
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Weight is ALWAYS bad news for tyres.
Car company should be investing more into hybrid instead going full ev u get the best for both world with hybrid ev is like going cold trukey
@biznatcho7
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly Toyota’s approach (with a side of goofy hydrogen vehicles). Hence why they’ve been dragging their feet on EVs.
@user-yn5sk5ru5g
Жыл бұрын
Except a hybrid is not the best of both
@Finnspin_unicycles
Жыл бұрын
Best of both or worst of both lies in the criteria... From an ecological standpoint, performance hybrids like this are not much of an improvement (especially considering that most plug in hybrid owners barely ever charge them). Heavy and high CO2 impact in production like an EV, not amazing efficiency like a ICE car. For econoboxes like a prius, Hybrids can come out great, but if you actually want higher power too, I don't think EV's are beatable (from a CO2 impact perspective).
Electric cars will NEVER work... Can you EVER see a $2000 elec??? NOPE!
@dantem306
Жыл бұрын
This is a hybrid bozo
@jermainec2462
Жыл бұрын
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@IReahpZz
Жыл бұрын
Of course you will. Only thing your getting for 2k in this market is a clapped shit box with a laundry list of issues.
@paul66766
Жыл бұрын
okay boomer
We have a few years at best. French revolution style. Head's will be lopped off. Have fun while you can.
@hoosiercrypto9955
Жыл бұрын
@@psyker4321 probably right my friend. German's rule.
@TheSmokingTire
Жыл бұрын
@@psyker4321 If we see that kind of inflation, I'll be selling my M3 for $4M. Enough to buy one carrot!
Lol