I was expecting the specsheets of the oil 😂

@LubricationExplained

8 ай бұрын

I wish they'd give away a little more info! But if you're interested in the technical stuff I did a podcast episode with Mobil's motorsports director. He obviously doesn't give tooo much away but there's some talk about the development work that goes into the formulations. Here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6GHtJlqdLDJf9Y.html

@xynostasos9022

8 ай бұрын

@@LubricationExplained they are using very thin oils with tons of friction modifiers, possibly thinner than 0w16. They throw the oil away after every race.

@V8Lenny

8 ай бұрын

​@@xynostasos9022monograde oils always in racing. Ofcourse they can be rated something like 0W16

@xynostasos9022

8 ай бұрын

@@V8Lenny a monograde can be thinner than a xW16 at operating conditions but as it is stated on the video, they do not adhere to SAE standards, so it could be something like 14.5wt grade. All F1 cars feature oil coolers anyway and they monitor engine coolant and oil temps at all times. In general, they need to go as thin as possible because otherwise they lose horsepower. I do expect though that they use heavier oils in hot circuits or they might suffer what Renault engines do using the crappy Castrol oils (blow up) or what Ferrari is doing when overheating the oil (RB Ring, Sainz, July 2022) which is to blow up the turbo.

@V8Lenny

8 ай бұрын

@@xynostasos9022 yes , I just meant they dont need any winter grades, so no W viscosities.

Was just looking at a crankshaft from a F1 V10 engine. Looking at most road vehicles, bearing speed is often very similar to mean piston speed, but with the F1 the bearings are running at about twice the m/s.

Link to interview with Mobil please

What is your opinion on Ravenol ?

@trannamkhuu5069

8 ай бұрын

have the same question

I'm not sure you got the Ferrari bit right. Agip - which is owned by ENI, the huge Italian petrochemical company, was a Ferrari sponsor for 22 years between 1974 and 1995.

Bare minimum- at least reveal oil grades

@LubricationExplained

8 ай бұрын

If you have access to that information, I would love to know it! The reality is, the F1 teams don't use "an oil grade" so the question doesn't even make sense. Formulations are dependent on the track, the format (race, qualifying, practice, sprint), and track/climate conditions. Most teams bring multiple formulations to a race weekend. They also aren't bound by the SAE requirements - I've heard of some F1 oils that are solid at room temperature, so they wouldn't even pass a W viscosity rating. The oils aren't standardised like in Nascar or Indycar and oil formulation isn't narrowly regulated so it's one area where the teams can be quite flexible. This video was just supposed to be a generic look at the business behind the oils - if you want a technical exploration of F1 oils I've already covered it in an interview with Mobil's F1 lead: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6GHtJlqdLDJf9Y.html

@jasonhavers5961

5 ай бұрын

​@@LubricationExplainedwhat is your opinion on Schaefer's full synthetic motor oil? Is it ok or good or great?

We would like to know which OIL companies are a Technical Partner together with engine performance and development and so on, and which are just commercial Sponsors on the paintwork. BimmerN53

Remember when Ferrari was winning races before the technical regulation that limited oil consumption? Fairly certain there must have been a power adder of some kind in Shells formulation.

@grahamh9788

8 ай бұрын

Uhhhh, ok ill try to be nice. Engine oil is what lubricates the engine, its seperate from the fuel system, or at least usually it is... Now you may be on to something regarding ferrari. Maybe they ran hotter and burned more oil.

@LubricationExplained

8 ай бұрын

Yeah so from memory (I'm a little fuzzy on the detail) they were getting around a regulation that limited fuel consumption. I believe that F1 restricted the amount of fuel flow into the engine, but did not restrict engine oil consumption. So they were effectively using excess engine oil (I guess they must have mixed in some very volatile light ends) to effectively increase the amount of "fuel" delivered to the engine.

@mosesadk454

8 ай бұрын

@@LubricationExplained I just saw a KZread video on F1 cheating that mentioned Ferrari injecting oil into the intercooler. I did not know that. There must have been a "potent" additive in the oil.

Whichever one sponsors them right ?

Putting their oil in your 'pottering round the town bucket of bolts' will likely result in early fail of your engine....... It definitely won't go any faster.

Highly doubt they use whatever sticker paid to be there. Shell has been in F1 since I was young, but again super secret blend no street machine would ever use.

@trevorgauntlett-jx8ub

8 ай бұрын

They use Shell. But the lubricants are optimised for the number of races/practices/qualifying sessions defined by the rules.

@LubricationExplained

8 ай бұрын

That's true of some teams but not others. I know for a fact that Ferrari use Shell, Red Bull use Mobil, Mercedes use Petronas and Alpine use Castrol. After that it starts to get a bit fuzzy. As I highlighted in the video, I think it's safe to assume Aston Martin aren't using Valvoline, because why would you change your engine oil mid-season? You're right in that they definitely aren't using off-the-shelf products though.

I was thinking about exactly this topic today...scary. Whatever other thoughts you have read, it's not true! xD

Kinda bit of an anti-climax as an F1/car nut but still a good watch tho'

Last two years Porsche using shell in europe

I am sorry to disappoint you, Formula 1 and vehicle racing 80 marketing and 20% technology today and on the subject of oils and greases for vehicles, more so because the products and specifications are so particular that an F1 would not be able to take to the street and go to the office for more than 2 to 3 months, they are not designed to last, they are designed to generate maximum power with less energy expenditure and the protection of the parts takes a backseat. You cannot put the oil that they market to you in the F1 in these bolidos. Your vehicle you buy is not close to an F1 sorry