You didn't mention the MVP glow being far and away the brightest glow on the market.

@volitionsin9607

3 ай бұрын

Came here to say this. And Streamline, without the overmold, has solid options.

@rogerjones332

3 ай бұрын

I concur. The MVP, Total Eclipse glow colors are the best, brightest, and longest lasting.

@evanstanek5838

3 ай бұрын

I've built half of my glow bag with MVP. Great glow. Kasta glow is also consistently outstanding. My newest fave is the recent Glo DD from Discmania, the glow is awesome and the disc flies really really well

@curtisridenour

3 ай бұрын

@@evanstanek5838 what do you put with? I was thinking of getting an eclipse envy.

@BigJuice77

3 ай бұрын

@@evanstanek5838 "Consistently" Might not be the best word. I have a 2022 GrymX that has pretty bad glow. Maybe they improved though? I don't run a lot of Kasta

Good video , especially for newer players trying to figure things out. This is a summary of the basic consensus opinion of the companies.

As for small companies, Doomsday Discs are pretty unique and super fun to throw.

@durtydan420

3 ай бұрын

Agree. I throw the blackout and cataclysm alot.

@FinallyFastDotcom

3 ай бұрын

I found them randomly a few weeks ago, they were my first discs so I can't compare a lot(and I'm terrible), but I've really enjoyed them so far and feel the quality is better solid.

Love it Trev, keep em coming!

I throw a lot of MVP just cuz pretty much all their discs are flat, have smooth edges and good rigidity. Molds fly pretty consistent from run to run and flight doesn't vary too much between plastics. As a rec player it's nice to know what I'm buying is gonna do what it should

@derpderpin1568

3 ай бұрын

Really true for every brand. The people that claim massive differences in the same mold are the same people that can't throw the same shot twice in 10 tries.

@OvertPumkin

3 ай бұрын

Mvp feels so good to forehand.

@serenityinsilence

3 ай бұрын

I haven’t bought an mvp/axiom disc that matches what the flight numbers would suggest. They have all been consistently more overstable than I’d expect. It may come down to how flat the discs are, but they sure need to figure that part out.

@OvertPumkin

3 ай бұрын

@serenityinsilence just means you throw at a different speed/rotation than they measure.

@alwolschleger7242

3 ай бұрын

@@serenityinsilence Flight numbers are a) a joke and b) different from ecosystem to ecosystem. Trilogy always way overstates their stability (there's no Stag ever made that's a -1/2!). MVP understates their stability. Innova invented flight numbers but their discs basically make their flight numbers a range.

Solid ratings Trev! Thanks for the vid!

Trevor: MVP is newer and has a smaller lineup MVP: Has a lineup of 80 molds (some out of production) across their three in-house companies

love what you're doing on this channel

Respect the grind brotha💯💯💯

This was fun! It was good to see someone who has seen a lot of discs, molds, plastics, etc. to rate them against each other, and I mostly agree! I would love to see a similar video about a lot of the smaller and newer companies which are breaking onto the scene, even if they are manufactured by another mother company. I LOVE Clash and Mint, and I’d love to see companies like Doomsday and Lonestar on here

I think you were pretty spot on with these top companies. Would've liked to see Clash get a shout-out. I think they have a top 5 or better plastic & feel, although some of their molds are hard to get a hold of up til now. Also the Royal line from Lat 64 is a top plastic imo. Great video Trevor. 👍

@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER

3 ай бұрын

best clash molds to try? I got a steady cookie coming

@cspunisher5774

3 ай бұрын

@@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER a Soda for a fairway, a Berry for a midrange & even though the Wild Honey is a 12 speed, slower arms can still get great flight & distance from it throwing at different angles.

I love Thoughtspace and I’m glad you mentioned them at the end. Just wish a disc or two would have been featured but I get it you can’t be throwing all day. They’re discs feel so great and look amazing and funny enough I only bag one mvp disc right now but hope to try more soon.

Trevor, outstanding job on this video. Very judicious review and rating system, on top of a nice little history for each company. I’d love to see a part two of this where you dive into the “niche” manufacturer market. It’d be cool to see each of the attribute rankings, for companies such as: - Gateway - Legacy - Clash - RPM - Viking - Divergent - Finish Line - Elevation - Doomsday - Yikun And Prodiscus! A lot of those brands have been around for a long while - several of them longer than MVP.

Good job Trev! I agree with what you are saying.

great video trev!

Great information fro people interested in discgolf (even when they "re not playing the sport)!!

Mvp and axiom alone have 69 (59 in production) molds Discraft 52 Innova 79 and people only use the same 7 molds

@MegaLaban12345

3 ай бұрын

Aviar, whale, aviarx3, pig, toro, roc, roc3, gator, jay, mako3, teebird, eagle, TL, leopard3, thunderbird, firebird, sexton firebird, tern, shryke, wraith, destroyer and Xcal all see play in professionals and casuals bags. 22 molds, with tons of people liking sharks, wombat3s, polecats, teebird3s, chargers, mambas, savants, novas, Rhynos, max’s and whatnot. 7 molds aint it.

@kroggee88

3 ай бұрын

@@MegaLaban12345 aviar roc teebird thunderbird firebird wraith destroyer.

@kroggee88

3 ай бұрын

@@MegaLaban12345 the good ones were classic roc cro viper sl teerex. Those are hard to find.

Lattitude royal / DD supreme is top of the line imho. Also MVP's artwork with multiple foil colors as well as their colors/swirls are killer!

Another great video👍

I've been an Innova Boy for over 35 years and have all my slots filled (phrasing) with discs in various states of wear. But I've struggled with finding consistency in fairway drivers. I just don't have the time to break in 3 or 4 to have enough to practice with. I found the Arrow from Gateway for that "flat-to-flip and not burn over" slot. I also found a nice disc for longer anheizer shots that will still fight to stay fairly stable in the Oxygen by Element, a new company. And you can't go wrong with Prodigy's F7 for rollers. I gave up dicking with new putters and currently bag a beadless Aviar that's close to 30 years old. This old dog is always willing to learn new tricks.

OG disc golf fanatics - Innova People with inheritance from Sweden - Kastaplast Solid competitors - Latitude 64 Love the sport for what it is - Discraft Slept on GIANT - DGA The people that love being dissipointed - Prodigy The true king pins - MVP The people drinking at the event most likely shirtless - Franklin The wealthy collector - Vibram The guy getting into the sport trying to buy the coolest looking discs - Streamline The guy who’s actively looking for his disc in the woods - Clash discs The guy who always throws his dx plastic water discs - Mint disc These last two were FOUL😂

I prefer small local innovative companies made in the USA.

@MegaLaban12345

3 ай бұрын

Shameful

Thanks for this video. Educational. I’m an Innova guy with some Discraft sprinkled in but I’ve been getting into Westside and MVP discs lately. I agree that Westside is often overlooked. I find their discs have great grip and glide well.

@alwolschleger7242

3 ай бұрын

I started with Innova like everyone else. My bag's purely MVP and Westside these days. MVP started bumping Innova molds long before Conrad even knew they existed, and I have enough Bears and Swords to start my own shop.

@GoManGoDiscGolf-he5ho

3 ай бұрын

@@alwolschleger7242 you’re a little head of me on MVP and Westside but one day …

I throw every brand. 😂. Got probably 12 different brands in my bag.

The innova R pro pig is the most unique disc I’ve ever thrown. It is reliable, overstabl, and once it hits the ground it just stops on a dime. Amazing disc. I have a few other approach discs but this is a must have in my opinion. A solid overstable mid or zone type disc is a must have to pair with the pig just to have a slide in os disc because pig doesn’t slide at all. Which is lovely if you have the air space. I also bag a berg-x for forehands. The prodigy pa-5 rounds up my approach discs as the understabls e compliment to the berg-x.

You forgot to mention Streamline as part of MVP. Their discs are legit.

Great video! I think kastaplast K1 plastic is very unique. Even compared to the other house of discs plastic.

You can get effectively the same thing from any of them, even if the flight numbers vary a bit. Every needed bag slot can be filled with an absolutely viable disc in a variety of great plastics.

Started out with a Discmania starter set. Really decent set to begin with but I lost all the disc 😂. Now I’m throwing mainly Innova and Discraft. Have a lot of MVPs now as well, I find it doesn’t really matter what brand they all make good discs!!

Ever since I’ve started playing all I ever heard was prodigy was trash got my first pa3 and it’s now my favorite disc

@MegaLaban12345

3 ай бұрын

Not a good look

A local shop has a library card type idea and I’ve tried out lots of prodigy discs. The a3 pa5 pa3 m4 x3 and x2 all have a home in my bag. Their plastic feels amazing as well.

@joeydupont7664

3 ай бұрын

(I’m partially bias being on their street team) but the 400 plastic for prodigy is the best plastic I’ve felt, perfect amount of flex & great grip. I think 90% of my bag is 400 or 400g.

@Sanfordtime

3 ай бұрын

I love the new fractal plastic and color glow. I bought so many of the KJ PA3s in color glow and I will never switch from those putters

Gateway discs! Underrated which is mind blowing since they've been around 94

I like them all . I throw more innova than anything else. I do have some latitude 64 and westside disc as well

so jealous of your chris dickerson tour series, mine came in the throw up pink 😢

That AB color glow Teebird3 is a collector and my favorite run of any disc.

@soldieroftheway7979

3 ай бұрын

Ohh I have one of those, never really throw it cause I bought it for glow rounds. How much are people paying for them? Not that I’m gonna sell it

Love me some Westside

Love Lat64 but picked up the peppermint to fill a slot and it feels and flies so good

When I first started in 2013 I used champion plastic starter pack. Then I found mvp and I’ve never turned back. MVP all day

Nice video. I tend to agree with your sentiments.

Axioms neutron plastic is my favorite feel, period. But in general, I just grab an Axiom/MVP disc and they feel at home in my hand

Lat 64 royal and their cheaper medium plastic has the best feel to me. And always consistent molds.

Trilogy FTW!

I love you trevor

You should check out Essential discs out of Michigan… they have their over stable approach called the honey and and under stable fairway called the oxygen…. Both great discs!!!!

MVP's a newer company in contrast to Discraft and Innova, both of which have been around since the '80s, but MVP's been around for 14 years already. To be fair, they really broke out when Conrad hit the Holy Shot. All in all, I appreciate your ratings and you justify them well. Personally, I'm not a fan of Innova plastic, but give me MVP's neutron or Westside's VIP and I'm there.

Nothing feels better than K1 and Royal.

Anyone ignoring Gateway is suppressing the pinnacle of their experience - start with Magic, a straight hovercraft of an approach. Then get spellbound with the Wizard. Well thought out presentation Trevor, enjoyed it - Foundation plus Gateway Wizard collab on tap, really...... you'll like it now, and love it later ! Unlimited Konnor cos-play on the Wizard.

What kind of plastic would you like MVP/Axiom/Streamline to produce?

Prodigy is and always will be.

You should try out the new orbit king!! Such a good disc

I've always thrown Innova, but I've noticed some sharp edges underneath the disc. That's why I'm here because I want to branch out. I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that as well. Great video btw

The biggest thing I've learned transitioning from competitive (league) Ultimate to disc golf is that there aren't any great discs/companies, only great players. Fix your form, and any disc will do the job.

Make a video of manufactures who have the best putters, mids, fairways, drivers, utility discs

I just recently got a buzzz, not my favourite. It was the one from the Ice Bowl this year.

I swear fission waves does have that effect that goes further. I can throw it 50ish ft further than any other distance driver that I have. As for the other molds I’ve tried from mvp, I can’t say that it has that effect lol. I think it’s just cuz the fission wave is understable and I love throwing on hyzer. For reference I normally throw 280-300 and the fission wave I can throw around 325-340ish

Thought space athletics is my number one disc golf brand. Don’t get me wrong I have a mixed bag. But thought Pace athletics is definitely overrepresented in my bag. I all of the companies you talked about here. But thought Pace athletics does really cool stuff with the art on their discs. They also have some really good discs like the Mana or the pathfinder.

As for a small company in Finland I just love Prodiscus Ultrium plastic

I’m a brand loyal guy. Discraft is all that I bag with some Trash Panda stuff. Started with Innova but leaned more to Discraft. Love Dark Horse marketing…….go head and roast me lol

House of discs isn't examined correctly my guy. House of discs OWNS Trilogy, Discmania and Kastaplast. Trilogy is still manufactured by trilogy with trilogy plastic, Discmania is manufactured independently and so is Kastaplast. House just owns these brands now, but their molds and plastics are unchanged outside of in house innovations.

Gateway has some pretty sick molds, especially their new drivers

@BryceRogers_

3 ай бұрын

Yeah he really didn’t give the smaller companies more than a glance. But tbf the video is gonna be about the top dogs because of their consistency

Old innova plastic is the best and it got pretty bad for a few years but I think the halo plastic really saved them

@cavitous9815

3 ай бұрын

Old, as in 94 and earlier... mid to late 90s was terribad. Hit a tree square and you made a taco!

As a Discraft only thrower I think their biggest weakness is not having premium plastic in all their putters. I would love to throw challenger. Challenger OS and SS in ESP. That or not having an Athena OS yet

@wzywgwzywg

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, the esp ringer gt is crazy underrated, and would be way a better stock plastic than jawbreaker, but they only run stuff like that for ledgestone. 😢

Prodigy D2 F whatever 9 5 -1 2 Prototype md1 Never liked any putter by them.. so i pick the colt over anything else

Let's not forget the 10/10 glow from MVP!

H7 from prodigy is my new long distance disc for my noodle arm

MINT DISCS 🔥🏆

@ZacAndoe

3 ай бұрын

Mint is made my MVP im pretty sure

When mentioning MVP, you can’t leave out the diversity with their non-overmold lineup in Streamline. Still under that same umbrella and fill a few different gaps that the overmold doesn’t fill yet

MVP > Innova > Discmania > West Side > Lattitude > Discraft > Dynamic

I thought you should have mentioned the most unique thing about prodigy disks, how easy it is to identify and compare them. Need a more stable driver than the D3? Move up to the D2. Beginners select the higher numbers, srtonger players the lower numbers. It is intuitive, but lacks aesthetics and character. Same can be said for Disk Mania?

@MegaLaban12345

3 ай бұрын

400 D2, cool name dude. Prodigy is miles below Discmania in personality, but they both blow big sausage.

There was already 1 speeds with tons of glide way before the Glitch and Watt; MVP didn't innovate that, they just replicated discs people long forgot about.

Lat 64 is awesome for newer players or sub advanced!

Are the AB Teebird3s the best feeling run of all time?

@ibanezrg7421

3 ай бұрын

Pretty much.

@jacobwitte510

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely

You didn't even mention the history of MVP and it's artists collaborations. If you go to MVP team page on their website, you will see a seperate bracket for their sponsored artists team. I'm not biased, but I'm an artists myself and this was important to me when I first noticed 10 years ago with Zam, Mike Inscho and Skulboy.

@raidonbay

3 ай бұрын

Dude I laughed when you said "recently" in your breakdown. Their current and previous art director were 1st and 2nd place in an artist competition that they held in 2014.

Ah no love for Streamline. Probably the most slept on discs from MVP. TSA has the best artwork

@codypalko2745

3 ай бұрын

I have the stabilizer and it has become the approach disc over my zone. Also the jet is such an effortless disc to get distance with

Guess you gotta do another vid talking smaller brands now

Cale leviskas prodigy discs are money. Airborne series

The venom is actually a retooling of an old mold. I hate to be that guy lol

@amburger4963

3 ай бұрын

Nope I was wondering that also too

@MegaLaban12345

3 ай бұрын

It’s a brand new mold which takes the old name, and replaces the old venom. Not a retool of the old mold. Trevor is well aware of this fact, unlike you. You truly are ”that guy”. Clueless and overconfident.

Talk to me about gstar plastic!

If you want to buy new discs every 3 months then throw any “house of discs” brand. They beat in so much faster than Innova, discraft, or mvp discs.

Clash discs are the best hands down wish the line up was a little fuller

Innova, all over the World? Have you seen their international shipping? It costs more than the discs. Meanwhile, Latitude64 ship anywhere for 20 €/$ in less than 2 days.

Innova = classic plastic and molds, ages like a fine wine Discraft = old school molds and plastic Trilogy = buttery plastic, very domey & glidey MVP = high quality plastic, very flat & stable Prodigy = haven't thrown much...

Legacy is extremely underrated

Innova Katana!!! It’s their best driver

That old berg will fetch a lot of coin.

Personally I feel like innovas plastic feels like one of the worst to me, star is okay but esp feels better, champ is pretty good but lucid or c-line feels better. Don’t love their putting plastics either, just my opinion

Never added up the scores

Kastaplast please

No Clash? No Gateway?

You rated the companies at the end and didn't show any graphics on screen. Huge miss.

I would not recommend Innova to anyone. You cant recommend a brand that makes discs that mostly needs to be modified before its in throwable condition. Obviously same goes for prodigy.

Wait…it’s not an April Fools video?

Gateway!

great vid but where discmania.

@doctorray892

3 ай бұрын

nvm now i know

Nothing about finish line?!

johananes

Hoping it’s Discraft!

House of garage 😂

What about Discmania? I think they are one of the top 5 manufacturers! And I think a lot of their plastics are a notch above the rest…

Say what you want about Lone Star’s PR, recently. But, Bravo plastic is amazing, they make great discs, and they are crazy consistent. Slow to beat in.