They are both wonderful pencils and each have their own features that shine. As a budding commission artist (both portrait and pet/wildlife) I find them both awesome. I agree, polychromos are still the detail king (but between these two, derwent LF is better)

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment Becky 😊

My two favourite pencil sets. I have the 100 set of both and together they make the perfect set of pencils. I love them both so much but the Lightfast tip it for me, they are so buttery and creamy; I don't find them scratchy at all. You can't go wrong with either of these sets.

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment!

@laylam9145

2 жыл бұрын

Ik

Brilliant video amy! you did a really good job comparing both pencils and going into all the details on them!

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching Luke! 😊

Glad I found you -- and this video! Very informative!! Thank you for sharing your time. Blessings to you from the great Pacific Northwest, Lakewood, Washington! 💛🙏🤙

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for such a lovely comment Stacy! 😊

I really appreciate these comparisons! Thank you!

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! Thank you so much for a lovely comment! 😀

This is a great comparison! I wish you had used similar colors of both brands though. Like for the xacto test, I think scartching in a brown vs warm red are actually not quite a head to head comparison as to how well the scratching would show.

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Tracy. I only have a very small set of the Derwent Lightfast pencils (set of 12) compared to my luminance where I have the set of 76, so was limited on colours. But I will definitely take this into consideration as it's a great suggestion! I can say though that the scratching method is very similar with both brands 😊

Good review. The only thing additional I have would like to see is a palette comparison. I bought the set of 24 Lightfast a while back and was REALLY disappointed because it was not a good selection of pencils, mostly earth tones and just a couple of real hue colors. But it is how I fell in love with Luminance because I decided to go to Blick and fill in the gaps buying open stock. I now have all the Luminance pencils and am saving for a box set of Lightfast. To sum up, Luminance is more wax-based and Lightfast is more oil-based and that is truly the only difference I found and they work well together like Prima and Poly Chromos. From what I can tell based on reviews the Lightfast has more vibrant colors as well.. I really like both

@LCLand

9 ай бұрын

I bought the full set of derwent lightfast and was quite disappointed at the many muted colors. I like vibrant colors so I’m also filling in the many gaps on blick. The upside is I never would buy muted colors and there are times I need them so I guess all is well 😅

Thanks for the review it was v helpful! Some other reviews I watched didn’t show the swatches up close so I cudnt see what they were like. I think when I was watching u colour I felt like the luminance were a touch more smooth and even, as if they wud be ever so slightly more comfortable to colour with. Not sure if that’s true for you, but that’s how I felt when watching lol. And I saw another review where she felt that the lightfast were a bit uneven and harder to blend. It seems the lightfast r a little more vibrant according to what I’ve seen across a few reviews. Thanks :) x

@AmyLouiseArt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for such a lovely comment ☺️ I'm really glad you enjoyed this video and it was helpful!

*UPDATE* Thank you to all the people that let me know there are 24 additional pencils to the set of 76 Caran D’ache Luminance pencils. This means the largest amount of Caran D’ache Luminance pencils available now is 100 pencils. The 24 new pencils are: Pink white LF1, Indian yellow LFI, Quinacrindone purple LF2, Herculanum red LF1, Terracotta LF1, Carmine lake LF2, Nimes blue LF2, Middle green LF1, Light flesh 10% LF1, Dark cadmium orange LF2, Hibiscus pink LF2, Dark flesh 5% LF1, Natural russet LF2, Dark indigo LF1, Ultramarine LF1, Chromium oxyde green LF1, Medium cadmium yellow LF1, Anthraquinone Carmine LF2, Violet pink LF1, Dark flesh 40% LF1, Dark flesh LF1, Indanthrone blue LF1, Chrysocolla blue LF1, Dark phtalocyanine green LF1. So in total, the total number of pencils graded at a LFI or LF2 is: Luminance: LFI - 79 pencils, LF2 - 21 pencils. (Set of 100) Derwent: LFI - 62 pencils, LF2 - 38 pencils. (Set of 100) LFI - pencil pigments last 100 or more years. LFII - pencil pigments last 50 or more years. Today, I am comparing the Caran D'ache Luminance to the Derwent Lightfast colored pencils! Both pencil sets are known for their superior lightfast rating. Lightfastness is a pencil's ability to resist against fading and discoloring in natural light over the years, so the higher the lightfast rating the more durable the pencils will be. Both pencil sets have the highest lightfast rating for colored pencils to date so I am putting them both up against each other in today's video! I'll be testing their build quality, color range, blending abilities, cost, techniques, and taking a closer look at each individual pencil's lightfast rating. Let me know below which pencil set is your favourite! 🎨

Thanks for sharing. Already hv the FS of Luminance & Pablo Polychromos. Derwent LF is tempting but not an artist I should get a grip 😬😅

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 😊

Two years later, last night Amazon had an offer on the lightfast pencils. €40+ less than the regular price. Mine comes today, they also had a good discount on the luminance but that is where I draw the line. For no reason because I have never used either but the lightfast was only €2 + in the offer. I love the Derwent brand and I have the pablos etc. I’m good.

Very thorough and well-made comparison! I’m so happy you made this one as derwent lightfast are a fairly new line and a few years ago there wasn’t really any competition for the luminance (lightfastness-wise). I’ve actually only tried a few derwent lightfasts open stock but I love the lay down maybe a teeny bit more than the luminance laydown! They’re so pricey but maybe one day I’ll invest in a set. Did you see that luminance released a new portrait set last year and now there are 100 pencils total but I’m not sure if you can buy them altogether yet or just separate? For my birthday I bought the extra 24 portrait colors:) it’s a nice addition because 76 colors was definitely on the lower end of what pencil sets offer. Thanks again for the in-depth comparison💜 and by the way I love your new profile picture!😊

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Alexis 😊 I completely agree with you - I’m so glad luminance finally has some competition now! I’ve just seen this too which is amazing! I think there’s a set of 20 pencils and an extra 4 individual pencils according to someone else’s comment. I’m trying to find out what the lightfast rating is 😊 and thank you for saying about my profile picture 💕

@darelleknight

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt I also came here looking into colour pencils with better lightfastness. So thank you!

@1Letter23Numbers.

2 жыл бұрын

The luminence are now available in a set of 100. The lowest price I've seen them for is $269 at either Cheap Joe's or Jerry's Artarama. I ended up getting mine at Blick because they were giving away a $25 coupon. I paid $289 before tax.

@AlexisCassandraArt

2 жыл бұрын

@@1Letter23Numbers. now we just need to wait for the lightfast to be available in a set of 100 (not the wooden box, but a tin set). Tbh that’s what is holding me back from buying them😂

Do share the 4 singles sold in Luminance, only hv 76 + 20. Thanks 😊

There are now 100 Luminance pencil colours. They added a 'skin tone' set of 20 and 4 singles.

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nathalie! I’ve just seen this myself and trying to find out what lightfast rating they are 😊

@mariaglassman4832

2 жыл бұрын

What are the 4 singles ? Hv the 76 & 20 portraits only 🧐

Hi Amy Do you think you can do a similar video comparing the Polychromos to the Derwent Lightfast? Since they are both oil-based and should be direct competition?

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peggy, that is a great suggestion! I’ll definitely work on a video!

Nice

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😊👍🏻

QUESTION Which brand is better for a wider range of muted colours. I’ve personally got the chance to try both, and I didn’t like how the Derwent light fast felt on paper, but I am looking for neutral and muted colours.

@AmyLouiseArt

10 ай бұрын

Hello Jess! sorry for my late reply. Honestly, you should find that both sets offer a wide range of colours in their larger sets. However, if you are looking to just purchase a small set of say just 12 colours, I personally prefer the luminance. I find their colours are very rich and opaque and also I prefer how they feel on paper. I hope this helps!

For cheap pencils before use I might would "bake" to cure any potential breakages. I.e. leave them in a hot car during the summer for a few hours should "reseal" many defects. Just an idea.

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow! I never thought of that! That’s a really interesting idea and I would prefer doing that then putting them in the oven 😊

Lightfast ratings are based on very tightly controlled museum conditions, not natural light, which could mean anything from a normal north facing window with no direct sun to a huge south facing, drenched in sun all day window, the latter of which would be far more detrimental to any displayed work. If you're planning on displaying work, you should do your own tests to see how the pigments hold up as everyone has a different idea of what things mean.

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I have read through many lightfast rating charts and some state museum conditions whilst others state resistance to fading is measured by exposure to natural light. I prefer to state natural light as that is what I’ve read the most in lightfast rating charts, websites, articles, and other peoples videos. I only briefly cover lightfastness as I think it is important for people to do their own research and tests to see where they think it is best to store their own artwork. I don’t intentionally spread misinformation - there’s lots of conflicting information online.

@mydogeatspuke

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt oh I don't think you're doing anything misleading or on purpose, nothing like that! The ASTM tests in direct sunlight and under UV light in a lab but guarantees lightfastness up to or over 100 years in museum conditions so that may be where the confusion comes from? Their ratings are the LF1 and LF2 form. Blue Wool is the other industry standard, with ratings from 1 to 8 and 8 being the highest, but they only test in a lab with artificial light. So whilst a pencil with a high lightfast rating may fare better in direct sunlight than one with a lower rating, it isn't guaranteed to remain unchanged in direct sunlight for any duration and the guarantee only applies to museum conditions. It gets even more confusing when you move away from pencils and into paints as then the ratings are based on the specific pigments used rather than the way those pigments are delivered so you can't even trust a lot of the ratings haha.

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment 👍🏻 that is probably where the confusion is coming from so thank you for explaining it to me, I’m sorry I took your comment the wrong way - I understand what you are saying now, and I’m glad you commented because it will help other people understand lightfastness better too! I’ll refer to museum lighting in my future videos now 😊

@karlstuck6772

2 жыл бұрын

I do a swatch and gut the Sheet in halbes. One Half is exposed At a southern Window, the other is store in a draws. Time by Time I compare both.

My Luminance left crumbles really bad and I use a light hand because of my arthritis. It did not layer as well on my Smooth Bristol either. Some of the pigments like Mineral Violet just clumped. Didn't go down smooth at all. Even my Prismacolor did a better job on that surface. I wonder if something was wrong with them.

@talkinpictures1903

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried Turmeric for your arthritis? As a jewelry maker I feel it's really helped with the inflammation so just thought I'd share 💚

@treasurespastnpresen

Жыл бұрын

@@talkinpictures1903 Tumeric with a tiny pinch of fresh black pepper to further activate the properties. I put in my coffee every morning along with a pinch of cinnamon. It has really helped me.

Hi, Can you please let me know which sharpener did u use to sharpen these Derwent litefastpencils ? Bcz their size is wider than usual pencils size.

@AmyLouiseArt

Жыл бұрын

I use the Derwent superpoint manual sharpener or the Swordfish ikon sharpener 😊 they can leave little teeth marks on the pencils though, but most sharpeners do this 👍🏻

@SharifD-PaletteAnArtdsb

Жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt Oh my god! Just now checked the swardfish ikon sharpener price on Amazon, it is 10,000 Indian rupees. 🤯 So much expensive. Anyways thank you very much for your response Louise! 🤝

@SharifD-PaletteAnArtdsb

Жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt Today i explored nearby shops in Bangalore, found DOMS X1 CRYSTAL SHARPENER . It is compatible for DERWENT LITEFASTPENCILS. 😊

Can I buy 36 set of derwent lightfast for human portraits?

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sai, as long as the set of pencils included a lot of tones suitable for skin tones this should be fine for you to get 😊 for example, pencils with flesh tones, brown tones, grey tones, etc

Which Derwent pencils are you using here? They have many.

@AmyLouiseArt

Жыл бұрын

Hi Cat, these are the Derwent Lightfast colored pencils. Hope this helps!

Full watch

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😊

Can i get 72 derwent lightfast to finsh a whole portrait?

@AmyLouiseArt

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I would say that’s more than enough pencils 😊👍🏻

@ivanzonder5228

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt what about Derwent's 60 ? and Polychromos 60

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivanzonder5228 Hi, you would really need to check and see what colours are available in your sets as that's the most important thing. Plenty of flesh tones are needed for portraits 👍

@ivanzonder5228

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt Thanks for the answer ... i'm also curious about the Lyra Rembrandt Polycolor set of 72 , and the Koh i Noor pencils

Jackson’s are usually cheaper for the singular pencils

@AmyLouiseArt

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment!

Both nice pencils and expensive.

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they are! I like both 😀

I LOVE THIS ❤❤❤❤❤😊😊🤣

@AmyLouiseArt

22 күн бұрын

Thank you so much 😊

Why does nobody ever cover the 12 sets of both and what colours are in them? The derwent set doesn't have a primary blue for a start, it's weird, like the karmina's.

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

I already had the set of 76 luminance pencils and didn’t want to spend out on another set. I did try and use similar colors as stated in the video to make it more fair

@learnartwithme3766

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt That's not what I was talking about.

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

@@learnartwithme3766 can you explain what you mean please?

@learnartwithme3766

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt The selection of colours in the 12 sets. You would expect primaries, secondaries, black and white and whatever they want. Derwent went with non primaries. Cretacolor did the same with karmina 12, really light (and useless) blue and ultramarine (purpleish).

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

@@learnartwithme3766 okay I understand what you are saying now. I do agree that there should be a better selection of colors, especially in a small set like this where you are limited and need primaries to create new color swatches. This is something I should have highlighted better in the video so thank you for your feedback!

(If you are in a situation where you are able to,) pay that little bit extra to support a local or national outlet. It makes a huge difference to small business owners and staff. Not wanting to shame, because money is tiiiight (right?), but instead highlighting an opportunity to support those that live within your own economy. But also..... F***********k Amazon. Thank you for your video Amy Louise - it was really helpful as I start becoming curious beyond Prismacolor and Polychromos xo

@AmyLouiseArt

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Darelle, thank you so much for your comment! I really like how you’ve pointed out to support small businesses, owning a small business myself - I support this idea and love supporting other people’s little businesses. I do understand what you mean about big companies like Amazon, but one thing I would say is that Amazon have actually enabled me to earn a little bit of extra money through their affiliates programme. If a viewer purchases a product from one of my links, I earn a small commission which I invest straight back into my channel. It’s not a lot of money but it really helps my channel and enables me to buy new products. So that’s one good thing I guess! 😊

@1Letter23Numbers.

2 жыл бұрын

I shop at Amazon as they offer a supplement I need for my husband that is the cheapest possible on Amazon versus at other retailers, including Whole Foods which they own anyway. Otherwise I support Dick Blick as they have a store close to me and I want to keep that store open. The staff is so nice! I vote with my wallet. I do not shop at Walmart.

I think both are Bad pencils cause when Press it hard while painting there are gaps .

@AmyLouiseArt

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm not really sure what you mean by gaps? These pencils are some of the best pencils on the market due to their superior light-fast rating

@nervenkrank

Жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt there are White dots. ITS Not Like a marker

@AmyLouiseArt

Жыл бұрын

@@nervenkrank Coloured pencils are nothing like markers. To get smoothness with coloured pencils you need to use a lot of layers and blending methods. They are a very slow medium to work in but with time and patience you can get smooth results with them.

@nervenkrank

Жыл бұрын

@@AmyLouiseArt OK .