Set our eyes upon Christ. I can’t control what goes on in the church but I can stay faithful and never take my focus off my Lord. He alone sustains me.

@creedy8612

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolynkimberly4021 hahahaah I have a KZread to watch videos not to have subscribers. I have my profile for a few years never to get subscribers. You’re funny. I guess no one can have any opinion on the internet or you call them names, or trolls because it doesn’t fit your way of thinking. Many people have a KZread to just watch videos. Take a chill pill Carolyn. 😂

@creedy8612

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolynkimberly4021 loosen the chapel veil. I think our conversation is done. You attacked me calling me a liar to start this conversation and then accuse me of saying outrageous things against the church. Keep doing you Carol.

@claire111

2 жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏🏽

@ritablanchard8133

2 жыл бұрын

That’s how I feel. I’m saddened by the trads often disparaging the Novo Mass. when I witness it, the parable of tax payer & the Pharisee comes to mind. If the trad could only see the comments through Jesus’s eyes.

@knguyen6061

Жыл бұрын

@@ritablanchard8133 The problem of the trads is They think that forms trumps all substance like the Phrases, and looking down on the authority of the pope (the power to bind and loose)

Traditional mass made me come back. No lukewarmnes. No sympathy for the Devil. Viva Cristo Rey

Ай бұрын

Christ is King 🙏🏻 there’s nothing wrong with the OG Rite, if it’s good for the early Christians it’s good enough for me -I’m a Kvid convert to the TLM, Praise God 🙏🏻

As I have found myself trending toward Traditional Catholicism, my disappointment/anger typically stems from two things: injustice towards the Eucharist and a feeling of being deprived of the riches of our predecessors. It does not help that current pontificate seems ready to purge us from the pews.

@apalsnerg

2 жыл бұрын

You ought to see the Pope as God, my friend. He's supposed to be representing Christ Himself, after all. Stop questioning, start obeying.

@isabellamarie722

2 жыл бұрын

@@apalsnerg the pope isn’t God Himself though, so it’s not right for us to look at him as such. yes, he’s the supreme head of the church but the pope is still human and imperfect just like all of us. he still makes mistakes and isn’t correct towards lots of things, like trying to take away the traditional Latin mass.

@jacobflaherty6985

2 жыл бұрын

apalsnerg’s reply to your comment is demonstrative of why and how KZread and all social media is not a good barometer for discerning the truth. The pope is not God, but neither can he steal the peace of God. I would suggest that a life of prayer, a good deal of it being mental prayer and personal conversation with Christ, along with a sturdy, heaping portion of scriptural study and reflection, will be the remedy to the legitimate pains you are feeling. For the last seven years I have been an organist at a traditional Catholic parish. But this video clip is timely and accurate; it can happen that a hardening of one’s heart can happen subtly, and cause you to find that anger replaces a joy and peace in God.

@ntmn8444

2 жыл бұрын

@@apalsnerg he is not God himself. I hope you’re being sarcastic, and even then, I would hope you don’t think that’s the issue here.

@apalsnerg

2 жыл бұрын

@@ntmn8444 I am, because I am highly skeptical toward the devotion many Catholics seem to have for the pope himself. His authority, from what I understand, on spiritual matters is unquestionable and absolute, which I find disconcerting. I dislike the concept of rather than simply respecting his judgement as a learned and obviously very pious man, he is to be seen as an ecclesiastical despot whose decrees on the Faith are absolute. He is obviously a very clever man, who is very in tune with the Lord. That does not, I reckon, make him the premiere authority on interpretation and understanding.

I didn’t experience traditional Catholic masses until I moved to Baltimore and I absolutely became more interested in my faith. The reverence was beautiful and I wanted to be part of it

@joncerda351

Жыл бұрын

St Alphonsus Shrine? The FSSP does great work there

Fr.Ripperger has a good talk about this. It is called "Traditionalist Problems ~ Fr Ripperger" on Sensus Fidelium youtube chanell.

@alexanderbrown2717

2 жыл бұрын

♥️Know♥️ 1 John 5 KJV 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Ephesians 1 KJV 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 1 Corinthians 15 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 KJV 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

@eals255

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderbrown2717 What are you trying to acomplish with your comment? It seems a bit out of the blue.

@alexanderbrown2717

2 жыл бұрын

@@eals255 I love how Peter got to lead the first Gentiles to Christ. ♥️ Acts 10 KJV 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. How cool is that. They heard the word of truth. The Holy Ghost descends and seals them ♥️ Ephesians 1 KJV 13 Then they got baptized. ♥️I love how powerful God is. How moved Philip to another city after he led the eunuch to Christ. Acts 8 KJV 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea. I love the word of God and the power that it holds. Ecclesiastics 8 KJV 4 Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?

@eals255

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderbrown2717 Again, what are you trying to do with these comments. My guesse is you are a non-catholic or something? If thats so, I would strongly encourage you to do some research on the Catholic church. It is the one and only church that Christ founded. Here is a easy chanell with apologetics you can start with. It is called: "Catholic truth" It has a playlist with apologetics videos. If you have some issues with scripture passages or other information that you believe contradict the Catholic church, you should do some research on what the Catholic church teaches about these passages, becauss there are many lies and missundestandings out there. Do some profound research. If you sincerely seek the truth you will find it. "Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you." (Mat 7:7)

@alexanderbrown2717

2 жыл бұрын

@@eals255 ♥️😀 I love you SALS TY for talking with me I enjoyed this conversation ♥️ 2 Corinthians 13 KJV 1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. 2 I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare: 3 Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you. 4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you. 5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. ♥️ Jesus Christ loves you more than you’ll ever know

I can’t disagree with anything his excellency says, but, bishops have an obligation toward all of the faithful, not just those who “do what they’re told.” Also, matters in the “external forum” have a tendency to become very widely known, i.e. Traditional Latin Mass goers are, in many places, being strongly urged, or even given an ultimatum to assist at the Novus ordo, or else, while those who believe that denying Holy Communion to politicians who support abortion without limit are told that they are being unpastoral. I am very thankful that a bishop is willing to show understanding toward those who are angry, and to be authentically Christian is to accept trial, but trials put on us by a hierarchy that has frittered away its moral authority by its own actions is very hard to take. Let us pray for one another.

@kamilziemian995

2 жыл бұрын

I would at, it make hierarchy looks bad. And it don't need it any more reason to look bad, just look at McCarrick.

As a “Trad” I tend to think that where some of us clumped into that tent go wrong is that, while I usually get annoyed that it seems like the modern church forgets there was a church prior to 1962, (heaven forbid we quote a council that’s not V2 or a pope that wasn’t JPII) it also seems that sometimes the trads can forget that the church continued on after 1962. I hear the bishop on the anger thing, but Jesus was angry sometimes too, I remember this famous story about Him flipping tables and whipping people out of the temple. There is a just anger. Anger at injustice is just. Many trads are angry at the watering down of the liturgy and faith. And the injustice comes when we have seen an entire generation practically disappear from the pews (except for the traditional parishes) and instead of recognizing the poor fruit of the post conciliar changes and consider a restoration, they double down time and time again on things that don’t “build the house” of faith on rock. I’ve seen many peers be “on fire” for the faith back in high school and college cause Praise and worship was fun, but have no signs of supernatural faith into adulthood. The anger is at the real possibility the salvation of souls is no longer the central mission of the bishops and has been replaced with appeasing politicians and the world to seem relevant. There are plenty of Mea Culpas to go around, trads aren’t perfect and yes it’s true even that just anger can become disordered and a tool of the devil if not tempered. But we have great joy too. I am at awe of the Glory of God when I assist at the Mass that the saints also went to. I love seeing the whole life and history of the church brought to life in front of our very eyes. More than anything I love Our Lord and Our God who bestowed upon us this most precious Bride and faith. I get angry when we see her mistreated ;). God love you!

@jend9559

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

There was also a Church prior to 1570.

@ntmn8444

2 жыл бұрын

I get what you’re saying, and I too feel there is a watering of the faith. I do. But, I doubt that traditional values will keep or bring people back. I said the same when I came back two years ago. If people knew what this actually was, they’d come back in droves. Nope. That’s not true. The gate is narrow for sure. There’s a reason why Jesus said that. People are less interested in truth and what’s good, right and just than you think. We can hope people eventually figure it out before they die, but I think the reality is that hell is very full, and that’s why Mary is very sad and upset. We need to focus on ourselves, on understanding the faith, and well, we should try reasonably to bring the gospel to people.

@taylormcanerney8635

2 жыл бұрын

Well said, YES YES YES!

@teresaegger5097

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree!

I would like to see an interview with the question “where non-Trads/Novus Ordo adherents can go wrong” to balance the discussion.

@Jayce_Alexander

2 жыл бұрын

I think he pretty much summed it up, although unintentionally.

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

Either you support existing doctrine or you don't. There is no balance between Trads and mainstream Catholics. Trads are seeking to remake doctrine to their own preferences in exactly the same way Progressives are. They are not in any way equal to mainstream, pious Catholics loyal to existing doctrine. Trads AND Progressives are the threats to the Church.

@phillipcuccia9971

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in humm, we must have different concepts of what the word “Trad” means.

@joechriste7052

2 жыл бұрын

I just really wish that sooner rather than later. Catholics would stop using these divisive terms to describe themselves. What part of the term Catholic (universal) is so hard to use to apply to all who submitted to the authority of the Church? “A house divided cannot stand”

@ndumferdy2545

2 жыл бұрын

@@joechriste7052 thank you. I do not know if it is an american thing, polarising everything, democrats vs republicans, leftists vs rightwingers, trads vs liberals, everything is polarised and pushed that way. Why cant we just be catholics and children of God?

Amid all the CHAOS..I am consoled by my faith and trust in JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU. JMJ

I feel if the rosary was preached more of there was a great emphasis on the sacramental . Many would find peace and go back to the church.

@alexanderbrown2717

2 жыл бұрын

What about the Gospel? 1 Corinthians 15 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 KJV 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; ♥️Know ♥️ 1 John 5 KJV 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

@DaveK548

2 жыл бұрын

The Gospel is IN the Rosary!

@josephzammit8483

2 жыл бұрын

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@alexanderbrown2717

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaveK548 ♥️ I love how Peter lead first Gentiles to Jesus Christ. Acts 10 KJV 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. How cool is that. They heard the word of truth. Holy Ghost fell on them and sealed them Ephesians 1 KJV 13 ♥️ Then they got baptized. Acts 16 KJV 28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. 29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

It sounds like his Excellency is implying “don’t focus on the liturgy, focus on evangelization and Catechesis.” To this, we restorationists reply: “Lex orandi, lex credendi.” Restore the Liturgy, and we can evangelize as we did for almost 1940 years prior to the Novus Ordo.

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

The Latin Mass was codified in 1570 and around sporadically for only about a hundred years before that. Why are you ignoring the first 1400+ years of the Church when Mass was said in the vernacular?

@hopefull61256

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in Yes it's strange to think of the early church in its middle eastern setting, attending a very baroque Latin mass. I think God requires an orientation of our hearts towards him. Traditions are they to help us achieve this. But they are a means to an end not the end themselves.

@blackwoodbaritone

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in The language used at Mass was never, or at least was never meant to be, the language of the street. It's always been at the very least an elevated, poetic form of vernacular language. What we see with the Novus Ordo is the implementation of translations that are essentially the flattened prose of the street.

@JohnFromAccounting

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in That is fake news. Latin Mass was said since the 2nd century. It existed for over a thousand years before Trent.

@Luminosity94

2 жыл бұрын

But people tend to forget thaaaat it was only after Vatican 2 that the Catholic Church began to spread like wildfire among the eastern side like Asia and Africa and there was a boom in the catholic population and is still increasing now... but then again, westerners think otherwise. They think Catholicism is dying. Well it is dwindling down in the western world especially in America because people there are very liberated. They dont want to listen... but yeah, just my thoughts.

"There is a great danger for the enemy to take what is a good desire and twist it into something [bad/evil]". The bishop summed up what happened with the Liturgical reform without seeming to realize it. 😐

@joelpenley9791

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking how this statement could be used to cut both ways. I think the bishop was saying it to only be applied to Trads, but I think it should be applied things like communion in the hand while standing or the music at NO masses.

@Spiritof76Catholic

2 жыл бұрын

They have had 50 years to fix the Bugnini protestant errors he built into the new order Mass and done nothing. Come on Bishop, dead mens bones and whitewashed tombs…

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelpenley9791 Christ distributed to the Apostles in the hand. Case closed.

@joelpenley9791

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in the Apostles were all priests. So yes, case closed.

@daenithriuszanathos9306

2 жыл бұрын

Time and again, we find in therapy that once a legitimate (and sometimes painful) ciriticism of the self is presented, the individual (sometimes subconsciously) deflects that to point at the other. I didn't have to scroll very far to see it manifested here. Listen to the entire interview. Bishop McCaig admitted that there was something that went wrong during the liturgical reform. The topic being discussed at the moment, however, is how the fervour of "traditionalists" can be turned for the devil's purposes. Instead of going for a jab at the "NO camp" (yet again), how about we take the time to actually reflect on how the devil has warped our passion for right praise and worship of God into an idol. Just my two cents.

What's Christ's mission? Saving souls. When the rubber hits the road, lousy liturgy which is the norm is detracting from our faith in Christ. I say this being a Trad who is super open to different perspectives and understanding others. I feel like I've been listening so long and that it comes down to cowardice. I watched adults tuck their tails and go with the flow as a child victim of a 10 year divorce battle, told "it's not my fault" and "it's okay" when none of it was. I sat in pews while my trans dad and lesbian mom lived their lives and no priest spoke about any of this. Everything was shuffled under the couch. I feel like that's the liturgical debate. Casual mass, weak faith, lay people who aren't invigorated by countercultural liturgy... in practice learning to go with the flow and not make others uncomfortable.... And we're losing our identity. I lost my family, I can't lose my Catholic family. I tried the casual stuff for years, trying to understand and be open but I felt my faith dying with it. Sorry, it's time for the Bishops to educate, defend, and spread the faith. No more politics. Fathers defend your families. I don't agree.

@alexanderbrown2717

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus loves you Bernadette. ♥️Know♥️ 1 John 5 KJV 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Ephesians 1 KJV 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 1 Corinthians 15 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 KJV 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Mad, jaded and angry sounds like Pope Francis.

I don't know that Ralph Martin would agree with how he was just characterized. Mr. Martin is speaking VERY directly, but with charity, about problems as he sees them and not backing off to only a softer, joyful approach. I don't disagree that we need to live in joy as best we can. On a second point, I'm not saying this is what this clip was about BUT... I always find it interesting that when cultural liberals are in charge and pushing damaging agenda's there is a "sit down and shut up, we're in charge" attitude. But when there are conservative people at the helm then it's "Hey, we all need to work together and get along and tone down the rhetoric and anger." Cultural or church liberals NEVER give ground on anything without a furious fight but conservatives seem to always be put into a position of "You're so angry! You have to compromise"

@MisReal05

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say he’s saying to compromise as much as he’s saying that the anger we feel can turn is into something we shouldn’t be. Living in constant anger will only lead to more sin, more uncharitableness and more damage to the Church. Sure our enemies might be a bit more furious in getting what they want, but if anything that’s more reason to not follow them down that route and stay true to Christian charity while still trying to achieve our goals. Of course a bit of ferocity and courage is needed but you get what I mean.

@wishIwuzskiing

2 жыл бұрын

@@MisReal05 you make a very fair point. And I wouldn't recommend living in constant anger at all. It is definitely difficult to find charity and forgiveness through that. My concern is that we are facing quite direct and damaging attacks on the traditions of the church and it takes a very, very mature faith to fight that in calm and peace which is not as common today. When those with less mature faith don't see firm, clear, strong responses, they can become discouraged or confused. These are eternal souls we are fighting for!

@MisReal05

2 жыл бұрын

@@wishIwuzskiing I agree with you wholeheartedly. Let’s pray we can all become those mature souls that the Church needs right now.

@wishIwuzskiing

2 жыл бұрын

@@MisReal05 we must pray, pray, pray. Mary told us very clearly that this is THE most important thing we can do which will not only change hearts around the world, but also give us the right judgement, the right courage, the right words to act properly when the opportunity arises or situation demands.

@MisReal05

2 жыл бұрын

@@wishIwuzskiing again, I agree.

Amen! Thank you! I loved this!

I always find it interesting when Matt Fradd criticises Trads over liturgical issues when it doesn't affect him because he attends an an Easter Rite Catholic Church. He has the privilege of participating in a Byzantine Rite, which at least for the time being isn't being undermined by the Novo Ordo supporting leadership.

@user-xr7qn3rs4v

Жыл бұрын

Fradd is nothing more than a charismatic huckster. His fans call themselves "Fraddismatics" and he sells his cult of personality, like smilin' Scott Hahn. What's good for Fradd, is good and what's good for you, is your choice because he hucksters for the counterfeit Novus Ordo sect. "There are many so-called apologists and theologians online using the crisis in the Church to make money." (Fr. Isaac Relyea)

Let’s walk the path of holiness together.

The house is on fire and the father is abusive. But the "problem" is with those pointing it out. Sheesh.

Great conversation!

I am just sadden how I go to masss and barely hear people sing or respond when we are suppose to respond.

@ntmn8444

2 жыл бұрын

So sing and respond! When no one else does I go in extra loud.

@nathaniellathy6559

Жыл бұрын

At TLM you don't have to respond. Silence during the Mass is needed. Novus Ordo lacks reverence

His excellency's criticism is fair but I don't think this is just a criticism for just Trads but all Catholics. By targeting the Trads only you just make them become more defensive. When you back someone into a corner they lash out; it is instinct.

@DanielaLopez-te1tv

2 жыл бұрын

Of course, this warning to be charitable and not to get demotivated is for people in general. But the fact that this is what is alleged about Trads just confirms that what we've got to say hasn't met open ears as much as it should and just the violent roar of the misguided minority has. What a shame.

@turlinen

Жыл бұрын

It is a criticism directed to all, but especially for Trads. That was the topic of the conversation at the moment.

Trust me, Excellency, Traditional Catholics are indeed focused on Jesus. And we're ready to die a thousand insults, calumnies, presumptions and actual deaths for Him.

I am South African and was always taught that priests come and go as do popes. We go to church for the sacraments not aesthetics. Been asking myself lately what would say do if he were here in person. It changed the way I teach catechism. Sadly what I see is people becoming more and like the pharisees and forget the poor spiritual or material.

Ok I needed this. I need to keep my focus on Jesus.

This just struck me as a lot of word salad to avoid and misrepresent actual issues.

Excellent

Here’s my take on the church problems. The church is a bureaucracy. Unfortunately it has become self-serving, corrupt, and inefficient, you know bureaucratic! Meanwhile we the sheep are being neglected by those bureaucratic shepherds, hence all of the infighting on Catholic media. I need the Church to be a stabilizing force in my life and I feel like it has failed miserably in that regard even at the local level! There’s no sense of community that there should be and the church leaders don’t seem to care either. It’s very sad! Also with so much chaos there’s confusion! I need spiritual counseling out of all of this and I would like to turn to my priest but I can’t because he like the one before him seems to be burned out of the vocation. I am now going to my former priest (two priests before my current one) who is retired and lives an hour away for such counseling. But let’s just say I am not really happy with the Church right now.

@rickdockery9620

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you find peace.

@quiricomazarin476

2 жыл бұрын

That's because of the secular world & it's choice to work with JMB Satan's helpers in destroying christendom... Our church has been infiltrated & indoctrinated with lies. The Church is still Holy & will triumph.

@imeldataaffe433

2 жыл бұрын

Don't stress. Keep your eyes and heart on Our dear Lord, pray and trust. Live the best possible life you can. Jesus said" All will be well, in all manner of things, all will be well." Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I love you . Save souls, save Priests souls, save the dying.☘️

@mikeb9396

2 жыл бұрын

After many years of being away from Mass because there was just "nothing there", I decided to go back because Jesus CALLED me back home. I walked into my parish last November, and was absolutely blown away because the pastor was preaching the Word of God. His homilies have not been 3 minutes, and a cloud of dust with a pass of the basket, peace be with you and off you go. On the contrary, his homilies are long, but inspiring; heartfelt, but teaching at the same time. We even have a Transitional Deacon whose homilies are cut from the same cloth. There is hope for the Church, but WE have to be part of it. Volunteer with whatever you can do to help. Don't leave the load for the pastor to haul by himself. Our parish, and the school are growing, and we have a ton of volunteers. The repair of OUR Church starts at the parish level. Do NOT wait for the Pope to do everything; don't wait for the Cardinals to do everything; don't wait for the Bishops to do everything: Get involved.

@edwardbaker1331

Ай бұрын

What's wrong with the Church is that it has tried to be a "community" instead of a Church, which should not be a community. The religious life is not about the pursuit of happiness.

Well said Bishop Scott McCaig 👏👏 Let us as Catholics all get along with each other and stop judging. Instead let's pray for peace, faith, love and unity. We are all God's children and loved endlessly. God bless 🙏✝️

@marshallluddite

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree Tony, but when a creature (a human is a creature) is boxed in it often fights to get out, lots of trads feel like there being boxed in and however much you try and talk all fluffy and fuzzy like a dear bishop such as this does it doesnt calm the creature down.

@joanmaltman9580

2 жыл бұрын

This is the usual type of weak livered comment one gets when people do not understand what is at stake.

@joelobe187

10 ай бұрын

Ts..... judging????? jorge bergoglio's lingo????? ex bar bouncer from argentina.

Nah you are so off point. We "Trads" hate the way people treat the Lord in the Tabernacle. That's our biggest worry.

@linz8422

2 жыл бұрын

Yea big time off point this video is SAD

@QuinnBlessed93

2 ай бұрын

Receiving on the tongue wasn’t a thing until the 9th century and wasn’t codified until the 13th century. Prior to that the early church received it on the hands. I think both forms are respectful as long as people are doing it with love and faith in the true presence.

Your guest shared on how he has seen people start out on fire with our lord only to become jaded. He says he feels like shaking these people and say can’t you see what’s happened. I think he should have as is that not part of accountability. I think about myself experiences and how often someone could have helped me avoid bad decisions by helping me become aware. I think that is part of the problem we are more interested in being like vs the right and moral thing.

McCaig: "Pope Francis comes along and people have a lot of questions about Pope Francis. It feels like he's doing a lot of questionable things or things that we would think are wrong." Talk about an understatement! Here is the only acceptable description of a legitimate Successor of St. Peter: "The Pope has the divine promises; even in his human weaknesses, he is invincible and unshakable; he is the messenger of truth and justice, the principle of the unity of the Church; his voice denounces errors, idolatries, superstitions; he condemns iniquities; he makes charity and virtue loved." (Pius XII, Address Ancora Una Volta, Feb. 20, 1949.) Remember: this is not a description of what the pope should be, but what the pope actually *is*.

@alexk48

2 жыл бұрын

Then by the definition you give, Francis is not the pope.

The movement back to Tradition is the movement away from Cardinal McCarrick’s boys! How ‘bout we get an investigation and a cleaning of the house!!!

Bishop I’m on board!

Yes, someone can be a devout Catholic and have confidence in the Norvus Ordo form. Though I don’t attend the Latin mass even though it’s available to me, I do appreciate the perspective traditionalists bring and I think it has a good influence on those that have gotten lax as Catholics as it reminds them that being a Catholic isn’t passive .I don’t believe TLM is the only way to go about becoming a serious Catholic.

@generic_account2138

6 ай бұрын

Like clown masses? Alphabet pastor Jimmy of the Jesuit Synodal way"masses?", your avg crappy Peter Paul and Mary boomer band " Mass. ".. Yeah...nah

@zsedcftglkjh

2 ай бұрын

@@generic_account2138 How about your Latin priests who say daily Mass in 15 minutes...but it's super reverent because muh Latin. BTW, Latin wasn't a liturgical language until the fourth century. The first Masses were in Greek.

God bless for the truth!

Amen, Father 😌

Amen truth!!

Misguided or overly-zealous "Trads" are a small issue compared to the problems they are reacting against.

@msj5885

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment.

@macroglossumstellatarum3068

2 жыл бұрын

So true

@futuresaintapparel5501

2 жыл бұрын

But together they make one heck of a scandal of our beautiful faith!

@DanielaLopez-te1tv

2 жыл бұрын

And just a minority. I have found in Trads far more charity and hope and guidance than anywhere else, far more violent than Trads are the forces trying to extinguish their voices. Wonder why...

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Condescending Trads seeking to remake doctrine to suit themselves are exactly the SAME PROBLEM they claim to be fighting against.

Praise Be Our Lord Jesus Christ!!!

Sheesh. Minute 2 gets you going. Great discussion! Encouraging and charging.

In my experience, having been involved in catholic and protestant charismatic circles, a crowd or indeed a self proclaimed ‘guru’ always floats to the top.

@user-xr7qn3rs4v

Жыл бұрын

I sincerely hope you are no longer involved in what is, in its essence, Protestant heresy. It comes from Evangelicals, is based on emotion/experience and implicitly denies the power of the Catholic rites of baptism and confirmation. No charismatic huckster can PROVE that the words 'God put on my heart' come from the world, the flesh, the devil or the Holy Spirit. Priests have gone to charismatic "Catholic" gatherings and have words of actual demons in the babble of "tongues." Paul VI, destroyer of liturgy, allowed the infestation of charismatic heresy as he allowed so many evils. Real tongues involve one person speaking in his language and the other hearing in his own. Ralph Martin is a fraud and so is Matt Fradd; they make money from the ignorance and sloth of the average NO "Catholic". Martin works for a pink palace seminary and has NEVER spoken of the reality of sodomites in the NO clergy. Smilin' Scott Hahn, Martin, Fradd all have made much hay while the sun shines, writing puerile books written to a sixth grade comprehension level. Most post-modern people don't read as a norm, and most NO's have NEVER read a Church Doctor, the life of a saint and certainly not the encyclicals of pre-Vatican II popes.

Amen!!

🙏🏻🕊❤️‍🔥AMEN!❤️‍🔥🕊🙏🏻

Yeah...I have no idea what the Bishop is talking about. We have error, we have sin, we are lost. Go back to basics. Go back to what previously worked. Go back, get the fundamentals correct and then try. That means post Vatican II.

If you are NOT angry then you are NOT paying attention

He’s so right.

Many of us who aren't trads needed to hear this also. It's so easy to be focused on everything wrong that you lose the joy and peace of Christ. Amen.

Church is the place to save the souls when the world is getting chaotic, it should be timeless and unchanged.

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. That's why I prefer the Ordinary Form. It corrects many of the confused, baseless and alienating additions from the 1500s and sources the Liturgy as instituted by Christ.

@hiuszenoom809

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in TLM and Divine Liturgy are both apostolic and authentic, I don’t know where is your confusion. St Chrysostom, St Paul and all apostles instructed their followers performed same sacrifice since then. Mass is never for how you feel, is how God feel. You are mere sinner will be damned in hell without our Lord’s salvation. Mass is for you to repent and pray, your soul will be lift up by his body and blood. Don’t think what you prefer, is what God prefer. You need the grace from God to live every moment.

@hiuszenoom809

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in I don’t understand mindset of Catholics now…why “you prefer”? Vatican II has created self-serving attitudes toward the faith, which totally contradicted selfless, being holy and surrendered to Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ died for our sin, he is not worth for a extraordinary form for worship? Also, you are not his apostle, why you have right to be in front of him? You are not direly consecrated with Christ.

@JohnFromAccounting

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in Novus Ordo is not like early Church Mass at all other than a few details taken out of context. It has zero continuity with ancient liturgy. Pope Benedict wrote about this in the 90s.

When you work in intelligence, there is a concept known as "bleeding". If you want to hinder or eliminate a movement, you subvert the elements of that movement that are most dedicated to its cause, usually by convincing the majority middle that those zealous elements are actually bad for the movement or even traitors. In this way, support for the true goal is "bled" out and the movement becomes an inert force, like a pressure release valve. This is what people like Matt are doing to the traditionalist movement. By trying to appeal to what seems like a "rational majority" and discrediting the "fringe", he is actually shunning those most dedicated to the shared cause and dividing the church further.

@northwestdestiny1388

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent assessment. Amen!

@brianmchale5304

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting comment. I did notice that during a recent episode Matt inferred that his initial enthusiasm for statements about the Church made by Archbishop Vigano and Father James Altman was waning.

@RealAugustusAutumn

2 жыл бұрын

@@_t_w_s Popular Catholic personalities like Bishop Baron, Breaking in the Habit, Jimmy Akin (and the rest of Catholic Answers), etc.

@RealAugustusAutumn

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianmchale5304 Yeah, about a year ago it seemed like he was getting a lot more sympathetic towards Trads. Given his very zealous opposition to pornography and masturbation, something most Catholics won't discuss, it seemed like he was primed to be the foremost personality on the TradCath scene. Unfortunately it seems now that he's folded into compliance with the mainstream like the rest of them.

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

All I know is, I don't want you making edits to my doctrine anymore than I want the Progressives doing it.

only when I came to the TLM did I start to take my faith and the Eucharist seriously

It’s difficult to see the Novus Ordo mass as the solution to the problems that Matt brought up. Maybe that’s not what the bishop meant, but it seemed to be heavily implied that those who attend the TLM are the ones who are getting away from Christ while those who are comfortable with the Novus Ordo aren’t in danger of going astray.

I think it’s this kind of criticism of “trads” that made me stop tuning into Pints with Aquinas. It was great for a while until it seemed like Matt tried to distance himself from the “trad” or TLM world. Why? Of course there are sinners in each camp. We are all sinners. But at a critical time, shortly after Traditionis Custodes came out, Matt chose to distance himself from the trad/TLM movement (which in my opinion has been organic and fruitful)-sitting on the fence and throwing “trads” under the bus. Not all of us live in Steubenville and have access to beautiful and reverent Novus Ordo masses.

@rickhnat9641

2 жыл бұрын

Even Scott Hahn quietly started attending the Traditional Latin mass. 😉 Just treat us like a different rite, which we are, and let us see who has more vocations per capita in 20 years. It just seems like in the modern Church you can do what ever you want just don't be a traditionalist!!!

@user-xr7qn3rs4v

Жыл бұрын

@@rickhnat9641 It's all about money with smilin' Scott and Matt Fradd (whom I think has had far too many pints, not with Aquinas). Both of these hucksters are Protestant in both spirit and conduct: they sell their cults of personality and have been very successful at it. It is a simple fact: there was no "new evangelization" or "charismatic renewal", they were the vainglorious aspirations of the failed Modernist heretic: JPII. What Fradd and Hahn have remained mostly silent about is the sodomite infestation of the clergy, that has been widely known for over TWENTY years to those who pay attention. It is rumored that Hahn is a member of the Opus Dei cult, the "brain trust" of the Novus Ordo. Get the facts straight: these two are paid to prop up the Novus Ordo counterfeit faith.

Trad view: "the Church is always correct right up until I say it isn't."

@edwardbaker1331

Ай бұрын

You are making it clear your hatred and bigotry will not allow you to resist forming Eighth Commandment trashing carricatures. Name one single time traditionalists deny magisterial authority when they criticize, let us say, a bad pope for resisting the magisterial authority of immutable truth and doctrine, which said bad pope mocks and ridicules from his atheistic leanings? The Church is not a tyrannical dictatorship. Got it?

“…just maybe some of our security was in things that are here today and gone tomorrow”. 👏🏼😌⛪️

Sounds like you don’t understand the traditional Latin Mass if you think people’s desire for it has to do with an “inordinate fervor.”

@kell_checks_in

2 жыл бұрын

One mark of inordinate fervor is calling people who disagree with you stupid, which is what you just did.

@linz8422

2 жыл бұрын

@@kell_checks_in actually no, the word stupid is no where in my comment above, nice way to jump to conclusions and mind read though. If you asked me “Are you calling Matt Fradd stupid?” That would’ve been charitable, but since you did not do that I will still repay you with charity by clarifying for you what I meant since you do not seem to understand…I do not think Mr. Fradd is stupid nor his guest. I simply think they do not understand why people are returning to the Traditional Latin Mass nor the Traditional Latin Mass itself. If they truly understood it then wouldn’t have made the suggestions they did because the reasons for its revival would be obvious to them…but….obviously, it’s not obvious to everyone.

Like the Eucharist, accessible today, not accessible tomorrow…so why should we strip ourselves even from that because we are attached too much?

Very insightful. Thank you.

Traditional Latin Mass brings back more people to the church than the devices of the liberal bishops. Thanks to Traditional Latin Mass. let's not sum up that all trads are judgemental. I am not a trad to judge others, But to save souls and my own soul.

@ragejinraver

10 ай бұрын

I'm a traditional Catholic And I'll tell you this from personal experience . Most trads are extremely judgmental . In my opinion most are about larping not being humble .

@generic_account2138

6 ай бұрын

Who ​@@ragejinraverare " most trads "?

Yep, we are angry, Vatican II foolishness has hurt all Catholics. Please your Grace don’t white wash this issue. 🌺✝️🌺

He did not address the changes and if the trads actually have a point. Why can't he see its his and others who are changing things, causing anxiety. So have joy in your changes is what I'm hearing... 😢

The Latin Mass Society was not about a safe space let alone 'going back' to something long gone; in AD 1965, when the Society was started, the very foundations of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass were under attack, nothing much has changed today. And seeking to provide this Holy Sacrifice of Mass offered in the Roman Rite - unaltered in essentials, forms, and customs, as required by the Second Vatican Council (but already being ignored) - shows that little has shifted since then (though now mostly coalesced around the Missal of Pope St John XXIII and the Missal promulgated by Pope St Paul VI). Indeed genuine charismatics (in the Catholic sense) are to be found in communities offering one or other, or both, of these Rites (once assumed to be the same Rite now admitted to be quite different, or more or less incompatible, theologically). Where the Faithful - those committed to Sacred Tradition, aka The Faith - go wrong is .. in allowing the discussion to be reduced to a matter of taste rather than truth. This shift in focus is wholly at odds with the founding principles of the Latin Mass Society etc .. and, moreover, what most Charismatics seem to regard as their common denominator. Great stuff as always PwA. Cheers! Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek. God bless. ;o) P.S. Our devotional life (of prayer et al) is where taste comes in. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is a matter of fact rather than emotion, and therefore requires the truth. So, if the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the once-for-all Sacrifice on the Cross, re-presented at the altars of the Church, then something more than what we like is the crux of the matter; and our beliefs about it, attitudes towards it, and participation in it require a great deal of careful consideration (certainly more than whether or not to have bubbles, liturgical dances, talk-show host celebrants, or songs from a 1968 CE Peter, Paul and Mary* LP). * Long before 'my time' but I do like the pop versions of folksy music by P, P and M, played on my grandparents' radiogramme; but where they fit into the Divine Liturgy, I have yet to be shown, other than as a jolly sing-a-long in memory - of Christ's bloody death .. on the festival Day of His Resurrection, honouring the Blessed Virgin, or recalling the witness of some worthy soul or other.

As somebody who loves reverence and tradition, the modern day trads are overly focused on the method of worship than the worship itself. “Don’t worship the worship, worship God.”

‘We become mean-spirited.’ Who is more mean-spirited than Francis? These banal explanations of ecclesial disaster are more than trying. The bishop sounds like a Protestant half the time.

Honestly, I had a hard time grasping the real meat of what he actually said there. It seemed like a lot of feel good sentimental talk that isn’t really very helpful in our real concrete situation. I’m not mad; I just want to raise my family in a traditional authentically Catholic way, and (largely because of the current hierarchy) that’s very difficult to do currently.

@teresaegger5097

2 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@thatright4985

2 жыл бұрын

No it isn't. Most of your time isn't spent in the church building with your family. Choose to live simply...way beneath your means, even though you could afford more. Replace "fun" with plenty of nature and pray daily out in nature and public. Have only three outfits at most. Teach your kids the same. Don't follow the American constant consumerism and reaching for more material things. Visit the sick, imprisoned and homeless and share with them. Fast and give alms. No one is stopping you. Jesus and Mary lived under way more unjust and dangerous circumstances than you. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

@antoniofelis8291

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatright4985 I can't believe how easy it is to forget these simple Christian values. What is happening with people?

I have problem with ‘trad’ label. There are Catholics and non-Catholics in one common space. That is all!

@ntmn8444

2 жыл бұрын

Same! Catholicism is in its nature traditional

"reject vatican ii! reject novus ordo! we need to go back to tradition!" and the tradition in question is less than 500 years old.

I think where Rad trads can go wrong is where they become so set in their ways where they basically become sedevaticanosts. I’ve seen this trend on KZread which is sad because then they cease to be Catholic. The TLM and community are great for the most part but sometimes I think they forget that God is still revealing more of himself to the Catholic Church like he has to his people through out all of history.

@RealAugustusAutumn

2 жыл бұрын

Being a Sede doesn't make you non-Catholic, it means you recognize the heresy of the modern church. JPII believed people of all religions could be saved, a blatant contradiction to Church teaching and central part of the Vatican II council

@R.C.425

2 жыл бұрын

I think making yourself sound so right/perfect that you have no clue what a trad is I attent both NO and TLM when I can. I HAVE NEVER COME ACROSS THE KIND OF SENTIMENTS YOU SPEAK OF

@joecardone4887

2 жыл бұрын

@@R.C.425 I’m not sure if you misread my comment but I don’t understand where you’re coming from. I never claimed to be perfect or anything like that. I do know what a trad is and have some friends that are trads. Generally being a trad is a really good thing. I’m saying it becomes bad when they become rad trads. Rad trads seem to ignore the current Pope altogether and that’s when it comes bad. I like some of his content but go read the comment section from any Dr. Taylor Marshall video. Now it seems like the majority of the comments are just bashing Pope Francis and saying that everything that he does is demonic.

@joecardone4887

2 жыл бұрын

@@RealAugustusAutumn Yes they can. Part of it says that people can be saved if by no fault of their own they don’t know Christ and the Catholic Church. What if someone lives in a town where everyone is Muslim and they’ve never heard of Jesus and his Church? There are conversion stories like this. But if they die and never hear about Jesus do you really believe God would just condemn them to hell?

@RealAugustusAutumn

2 жыл бұрын

@@joecardone4887 You're literally talking like a Protestant, hence why Trads have such a problem with that position. Do you think nobody thought about this in 2000 years of Catholicism? God already knows everyone that will be saved, and knows that some people in other cultures and religions can come to know Christ through their own hearts. When they seek the truth, the truth will being them to the church. If this view wasn't true, there would be no point in evangelism, or a religion at all...

It’s hard to be evangelical as the good bishop suggests, when our priests and bishops, and sadly even our Pope not only oppose our doing so, but even send messages to the public that are antithetical to the Church and her gospel.

Judgement begins with the house of God. But doesn't finish there.

The Magisterium has failed in its duties for the last 100 years. I ask all to join me in praying daily that Our Father in Heaven would manifest The Holy Spirit to and in all these descendants of the Apostles of The Church of His Son Jesus The Christ. That The Holy Spirit would bring all these Bishops to repentance from their finacial corruptions and homosexual predations and all the apostosies and heresies they have promulgated in their pursuit of modernism and power. That The Holy Spirit would make ALL of these Bishops good and faithful shepards of The Church of His Son Jesus The Christ. That The Holy Spirit would protect and raise up all the bishops and priests that have remained faithful to the teachings of His Son Jesus The Christ.

What a wise Bishop! I wish there were more Bishops like you. I hope that Matt Fradd now understands that his desire for something "standard, that doesn't change, that is reliable" is to be found in Jesus: Matt's great need for "something" ...... that something is someone: Jesus. As for the Pope; he is Christ's representative on Earth. I believe that he is closer to God than any of us will ever be. Who are we to put ourselves above him, and think we know better than the man to whom God has entrusted the seat of Peter. To my mind it is an arrogance and a vanity to question God's wisdom. I don't believe that there is a man (or woman) alive, who by sincerely praying in great humility and acceptance of the wonderful and mysterious wisdom of God, remains confused as to the role and actions of the Pope. This Pope suffers greatly, and needs all our prayers as his suffering escalates. Some people are blindly clinging to tradition instead of putting their trust in Jesus. Fighting about which Mass is best is distracting from where the real war is being waged. I believe that God is allowing His humble servant to be used in order to separate the wheat from the chaff. But this is just my discernment. Each one must pray for their own discernment and put their trust in The Lord, who is the Head of the Church. The Old Protestants couldn't destroy it, neither will the New Protestants. Viva Cristo Rey

In trying to keep it together..what I have seen among world religions..especially the ancient ones..is the mistake of worshiping the religion instead of God. it's such a fine line to cross...that most don't know they've done it!

I thought of Taylor Marshall when bishop was speaking.

If it's NOT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!!!!

If it’s not love it’s not of God 😢

I don't know where I fit in anymore. I see the "Trads" and hear them talk about the "beauty and reverence" of the latin mass, but when I watch the latin mass, I see no place for me. Likewise, I can not abide the "bubble mass," the "guitar mass," nor the "gay dads" mass. Can the bishop not see the "great danger (of) the enemy to take what is a good desire and twist it into something bad" applies to the mainstream (for lack of a better term) Catholic church as well?

I am a Roman. The Church is visible and ordained but also it’s Wordly power is not it’s life. We must constantly turn our attention, call it back rather be called back to the crucified Lord.

Normie Caths who only attend NO hear of my Trad parish, which is the only one in my diocese of 100 parishes, and they always comment on how beautiful the liturgy is. Many have been to the parish at least once but regularly attend NO. They would be open to more TLM but the Bishop and their pastor never lets it happen. Until my cardinal nukes the TLM here, I will continue to bring my family to the best mass we have available.

It's hard to hear this. My birthright has been stolen and disfigured. My children have abandoned the faith. I am angry.

The road to Hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests, with bishops as their signposts” - ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM.

Just don’t have the priest face the congregation, have everybody get a sign of peace and hugging each other, joining hands, etc. If you must have English, then change nothing of the Extra-ordinary form except the language.

I am known as the "Bible Priest," but there was a time forty years ago when I was known as the "Latin Priest." I have taught Latin, and I love Latin, because it is the glorious rayment in which the Roman Rite has been vested for 1600 years. But, as I look back, I see that it also for many centuries veiled the glory of the Gospel proclaimed in the church. There is a point in the marriage ceremony where the veil is pulled back, for the benefit of the bridegroom's kiss. The new rite, with the expanded lectionary, has opened the riches of the Bible, which have given greater nourishment to the people of God now for fifty years. Latin and the Bible should be able to coexist with each other in a truly Catholic Church. The Baltimore Catechism taught that the two pillars of the faith are Scripture and Tradition, and it is erroneous to set them at odds with each other. I will fight for the essential unity of all truths until my dying breath!

@turlinen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Father, for your encouraging words.

@TheLincolnrailsplitt

Жыл бұрын

But the Latin Mass is being eradicated by the ardent 'spirit' of Vatican II proselytisers. Co-exiting isn't part of their plan.

@thebiblepriest4950

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLincolnrailsplitt Tell me about it! I was ordained in 1974, when Pope Paul VI responded to appeals from figures in the musical world to keep a lifeline to Gregorian chant. I obeyed my Pope by leading the congregation in simple settings of the Kyrie, which appeared in both the English and Latin missals. Well, I have paid a heavy lifelong price for that act of obedience. I was designated the "Latin Priest" by people who didn't seem to know that the Kyrie is in Greek! I pray that the good Lord, whose mercy I have implored for his church in the language of the New Testament, will in the end fill up the measure of his mercy for me.

Glad Trads are way more attractive and healthy. No one wants to listen or deal w/ whiners or doomers who look like losers. We have Jesus Christ. That’s endless joy.

Focus on Jesus and less on th battle. GOD never losses. But that doesnt mean we shouldnt have judgement. Neccessary is to separete GOD eternal from the shaft.

Coping gymnastics

Bloody means… ?

And Ralph Martin is ALWAYS full of the love of Christ!

Did the enemy not move in at second Vatican council? What is it St.Peter speaks of in 2nd St.Peter 2? He writes lying teachers who bring sects of perdition, and denying the Lord who bought them?

@zsedcftglkjh

2 ай бұрын

You're a doctor of the Church?

Surely he made a point that trads are must more needed inside the Church but within a true spirit within our Lord for overcome other kind of spirits, like the ecumenical one, how Christian we are called for loving and save other souls and share to them the truth about the life in grace of God.

Put your cassock on, your excellency

Very wise words!

Marshall just making his comma’s

Gal 2

If people like the TLM then great! Although the church still needs to respond to what God wants for the Mass following Vatican II. We need more Masses that have reverent sacred music and keep traditions that would be universal. Obviously the Holy Spirit wants the Church to bring all of God’s children to holiness. We need to throw out the crazy liberal liturgies and fulfill what the Holy Spirit intended.

@JohnFromAccounting

Жыл бұрын

Sacrosanctum Concilium said to preserve the use of Latin and to give Gregorian Chant pride of place. Where was that in the liturgical reform?

@cherylcadigan6086

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnFromAccounting Yes the Masses after Vatican II should have some Latin and Gregorian chant in them. I’m still waiting but I have found some churches that have beautiful Masses that do include Latin and Gregorian Chant

A: See the Dominicans. They have a clear understanding of the purge that's happening.

@msgoody2shoes959

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolynkimberly4021 perhaps, Dominicans have left judgment of Bishops to God.

Our human expectations sim to me to be the problem or at least part of our issues just saying

You see, Matt - this shake from the bishop (at 2:50) is also for you. Please see what is going on. Please see that in every other episode of PwA the subjects of "liturgical chaos" and "ambiguity and errors of Pope Francis" come up, and the stance taken here is that of critique, accusation, bitterness, even despair, all politely finished with a debate covering. The acts and words of Pope Francis are interpreted in the worse way, the Church's guidance on contemporary topics is received with suspicion or not received at all. Your great work from the past six years cannot find its way through bitterness and result on mistrust against the Holy Father and the Church. Please, allow yourself to be shaken by Bishop McCaig. We all need that.

May the will of our Father made known by His Son through the power of the Holy Spirit triumph and reign in all hearts through Ever Virgin Most Powerful Mother of God Mary - crush evil! Jesus, I trust in You to throw to the ground all corrupted Catholics in Church and government off their asses like you did with Saul so we can witness your forgiveness, justice and mercy all over again! Vengeance is Yours!

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