One of the great things about Pestilens is their Plague Monks. The Glottkin and the Plague Monks has such a tremendous synergy, it's crazy. Glottkin buffs gives 1 HP per model in their Fleshy Abundance spell, and his command ability allows them to change their attacks from 2 for the Blades to 3 and their Staves from 1 to 2. The Plague Monks can take both the Staves and the Blades, meaning you go from 3 attacks with Staves and Foetid Blades dual-wield to 5. The other thing is that Plague Monks have Massive Regiments, allowing them to become cheaper. Another fun note, is that if you run blades only [for the buff I am about to mention], which allows them to re-roll all hits [period] and on successful charges they gain an additional attack. So if you get the charge off, you are getting back 1 attack. In addition with the Feculent Gnarlmaw, you can now run and charge with your Plague Monks. The rats, already fast due to their Skaven nature are moving at 6". Having the option to now also run to get potentially up to 12" and another 12" after that [rolling like a god] means their maximum distance is now an impressive 24" run and charge, or at minimum a charge of Move+Run+Charge of 10". Add in a Great Unclean One with the Doomsday Bell, and you can add 3" flat to that, jumping it to 27" max/13" min. Add in the Movement buff on the Wheel of Corruption, +2" Movement in that cycle phase, and you have 29"/15". I feel that the Plague Monks are a great pick up, even more so with the Glottkin and having a Great Unclean One. They win by throwing overwhelming numbers of dice to their enemy, and nothing is scarier then watching one model have 2 HP [in a group of 40 that means the entire unit is now worth 80 wounds and has an impressive 3-5 attacks per model, and with customization, the Rats can offer more things [AoE Mortal wounds, Rend on 6's, Mortal Wounds on 6's, they explode when they die, potentially dishing out more mortal wounds, etc.] On a good day, an average day you're throwing out 30-50 dice. On a good day, 60-80+. On a bad day, 20-30. And something *will* stick. I'm a hardcore fan of mixing Pestilens with Nurgle, I feel as if the Maggotkin tome is going to empower them, more so in a way that Pestilens is now going to be better playing as Maggotkin, rather then Pestilens. As much as I love Pestilens, Nurgle now pumps out just as many mortal wounds as they used to, and I can now pump out more by just slapping my Pestilens units under a Maggotkin allegiance. A sad day for rats, but a good day for Papa Nurgle.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

pinning this, I love it when folks contribute so much helpful info. I could not agree more! The monks really are the star here. I like the idea of adding priests to keep the pain train going but you are absolutely correct!

@kaukipickersgill8508

6 жыл бұрын

Super useful

@ZodiusXx

3 жыл бұрын

I know this is years old but if you could please give me a competitive list at 2k points (that works for today's points) then I will love you forever!

@ZodiusXx

3 жыл бұрын

@@2Tough If the OP is unable to give a list for this, could you please help me build one? Super new to AOS and have no idea what I'm doing but I plauge a pure Nurgle Chaos Daemons list in 40k

Hey there, great content. Really appreciate the calm breakdown. Easy to listen to and very clear!

The Verminlord Corruptor actually has the nurgle, daemon, and wizard keywords, so he has access to the daemon spells, artefacts, etc

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

just saw that from another comment, absolutely incredible and glad your pointed it out. i plan on doing a video dedicated to pestilens as maggotkin soon PS: watching WW now, loving your take on the book! :)

Amazing video and very helpful :) Do you have any advice on maggotkin beastmen?

Probably gonna be my next army, just need to finish my Ogers or Ogors as its now called. The Great Unclean one looks amazing.

Just bought a slaanesh army box set but ive been slowly collecting nurgle so great video mate

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

Solid Choice! :)

Thank you for making this I was deciding on making a nurgle army so keep up the good work and also if you are taking lore suggestions can you maybe do something for freeguild or more skaven ok keep doing good work and may you prosper on youtube.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! Im really hoping to get more lore on those factions, I desperately want to cover them

@mathiasc8305

6 жыл бұрын

Just keep doing what you are doing and you will go far in this world " i am trying to be inspirational"

Hey man, just getting into the hobby and found your channel, thanks for eveything :) will soon buy the box,

I just bought the blight war starter set. Love the Nurgle minis. Im starting a Nurgle army. Just wondering if I could have some ideas on where to go next? :) don’t want to waste money.

If you want to play AoS and WH40K: 3 x start collecting Demons of Nurgle + Epidemius ... 230€ for one 1000pts army for both games that as well includes decent units

@2Tough

5 жыл бұрын

great idea!!!!

Nurgle year

I'd love it if you could review my army, i've included all the models that i thought were really cool and had some teamwork with the rest of the army (except horticulous slimux i just thought he was really cool): - Morbidex twiceborn - Poxbringer - Spoilpox scrivener - sloppity bilepiper - horticulous slimux - 20x plaguebearers - 3x plague drones - 3x plague drones - 3x nurglings - 3x nurglings - 3x daemon pox riders - 5x putrid blightkings - 5x putrid blightkings 2000/2000 points, 5/6 leaders, 3 battleline, 1 behemoth

keep in mind that playing maggotkin makes plague priests non-battleline units

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

a very solid point

You can take everchosen battalions for the Slaves to Darkness. 100pts and nurgle one is pretty good! Now you have the potential for a one or two drop army and lots of synergy. I take fatesworn for my Tzeentch STD army.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

hadnt even considered that before this, great call! It actually inspired me to go for the tzeentch and nurgle battalions in everchosen with my StD. Thank you!

Awesome vid, would a verminlord corruptor be a decent addition to a Maggotkin army?

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

totally! The have multiple ways of dishing our mortal wounds, are a wizard (which i missed when i recorded this) and have a nice, beefy wound stat. Nurgle has several things to buff wound rolls, but he has a built-in reroll of hit rolls, so good synergy there! not sure if its the top-tier competitive choice but it fits nicely into the army

@ANGRYFACE118

6 жыл бұрын

2+Tough Sweet, I've been trying to give myself a reason to pick one up. Such an amazing kit.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

I was just corrected in another comment, the Corruptor actually has the daemon and nurgle keywords, so he can be a general, get a unique spell, command trait and artifact! Great choice!!

I and doing Rotbringers but I bought a daemons of Nurgle start collecting box just for the summons.

Been playing Nurgle Warriors since fantasy. love this book. however quick correction, and I hate being that guy, you only gain the points at beginning of hero phase. So Gutrot sailing in during movement won't net you turn one points.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

I thought I had edited that out! good catch, I must have mentioned it twice and not caught it. You wont get the points for him turn one, but if Gutrot still has dudes in the opponents area turn two hero phase you still will though right? Thats what I was intending after editing.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

And I always encourage corrections!

@TheBraggen

6 жыл бұрын

yeah if you get good ol Gutrot back there you get the points in following hero phases. I've only had two games with the new book but I'm in love with it. can't wait for the new releases this Saturday. the Lord of Blights batallion that gives all your blightkings a rend seems so nasty

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

yea dude, we have a maggotkin player here just drooling over that one.

So if I had a mixed rotbringer, clan pestilence army. Is it worth it to bring the plague furnace and/or plagueclaws?

@jwass696969

4 жыл бұрын

Kirt Jeppson rule of cool my dude

Soooooo I'm just getting into Age of Sigmar and wanting to start with nurgle. Is this video still up to date for the most part

What if I want to play nurgle for 40k? Could I start with the first box set you mention for age of sigmar? Any chance of you making a video on this?

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

I can certainly do a video on that! But to answer your question quickly, all daemon models can be used in both games. So the Nurgle Daemons starter box is perfect for that!

@ghc9425

6 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated, would love that video! Keep it up and ty for the fast feedback

@robertm6005

6 жыл бұрын

If you're starting nurgle in 40k you should also buy the deathguard half of dark imperium or know no fear. If you want to stick to pure daemons, buy a couple start collecting nurgle then pick your favorite daemons and consider buying a handful of feculent gnarlmaws

if you like the daemons of nurgle and have a friend or know someone who wants stormcast then i suggest picking up the blightwar box. you easily get around 150$(cad) worth of units for around 80 bucks if you split with someone. follow up with a few big baddies and the start collecting box and you have yourself a nice army

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

Great point! I wasnt sure if Blightwar was here to stay, so I held off on mentioning it. Then again, GW has done the temporary box sets less and less.

I'm going to try and get into age of Sigmar after just recently getting into 40k. Been debating either Nurgle or Stormcast eternals. Eternals mainly cause I love the lore of them, and Nurgle is my favourite of the chaos gods.

@2Tough

5 жыл бұрын

both are fantastic armies!!!

@glendawe2597

5 жыл бұрын

@@2Tough went with Nurgle after, picked up both start collecting boxes for Daemons of Nurgle and Maggotkin of Nurgle, along with 2 extra boxes of Nurglings and Blightkings.

What's a good place to start if I want to get into the lore? I feel like it's all over the place and a bit confusing. Also, great vid.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

What factions are you interested in? The realmgate wars series by Black library has been great for getting caught up in general, but there's better books depending on if a specific faction interests you.

@OldWitchDoctor

6 жыл бұрын

Mainly the different greenskin factions, Orcs and Goblins were my main army in WHFB, but everything is interesting in my opinion.

@bobbydadude2488

6 жыл бұрын

OldWitchDoctor I have read some of the realmgate wars books and to be honest there not that great, at least at the beginning. I've been told they get better but I haven't gotten that far yet. If your okay with reading stories set in the old world then I HIGHLY recommend the new Warhammer chronicles series there doing. I don't think there are any ork ones coming out soon but the Von carstein one is really good.

Hi Doug, thanks for the video! I’ve been watching a ton of your videos and trying to learn as much as I can. Super helpful! I’m considering getting into AOS as a store just opened down the road from me. I’m most fascinated by Nurgle. However I don’t love the look of the Nurgle Daemons starting box figures and am leaning towards Slaves to Darkness. Do you think it would still be worth getting the Maggotkin battletome if I only had the slaves to Darkness starter set? I can’t afford much else right now, but am def interested in getting some models like the Glotkin and Gutrot Spume down the road. I’m kind of just going off what I think looks awesome, but still want to be smart about it gameplay wise as my resources are limited.

@fledge31

6 жыл бұрын

Also, it sounds like Slaves to Darkness can be marked as belonging to any of the 4 chaos gods, but in order to get those specific rules do you need to purchase the battletome of that god rather than find free online?

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Matthew, welcome to my channel and the hobby!!! Slaves to Darkness is an incredibly versatile army, and one that I use myself! Here's how the keywaord thing works in relation to a battletome: All Slaves to Darkness (StD) units cant take a mark for no charge. The individual battletomes for each god have that deity's name as the keyword. Therefore, you can buy the StD start box, mark it all nurgle and boom, you have a maggotkin of Nurgle army. Tired of Nurgle? Just say they all have the mark of Tzeentch and boom, a Disciples of Tzeentch army. Going further, the Glottkin has a stellar command ability that lets all NURGLE units get +1 attack, which means your StD also get that if they have the mark of NURGLE! If you dont like the Plagueberaers (and I totally understand) really consider the StD set. Warriors of Chaos are a great battleline, and so are marauders. The sorcerer will be allowed to take a spell from the "Mortal,NURGLE" spell list and there are some nasty things there. Maggotkin is a very new army so it army take a while to learn, there isnt a ton on the web just yet. Based on what you've told me, grab teh StD starter box and the Maggotkin battletome. Also download the app/print off the StD warscrolls so you can just stick them in the maggotkin book. Comments tend to get buried very easily, so if you have more questions feel free to head over to our facebook page and message me through there :)

@fledge31

6 жыл бұрын

2+Tough Thank you!

Can’t you also use beasts of chaos?

No call out to Blightwar for Horticulous? Especially if you can split a box with a friend.

@2Tough

6 жыл бұрын

A solid point, my reason is that the Blightwar set is really the Nurgle daemon box plus Horticulous. didnt seem vastly different enough to call out. But I do plan on having "Where to go from here" videos for each starter box where I'll cover this topic more, thank you for watching!

@mrmortonblogs

6 жыл бұрын

Sure. It also includes one of the first 'pointed' battalions that are playable in matched play solely with the contents of the box. Not sure what the total cost of blightwar is with the new costs in Maggotkin, but obviously you'd need at least 2 battleline for a 1000 pt game.

What is a better unit overall mortals from slaves to darkness or Rotbringers in a Nurgle allegiance.

Do slaves to darkness lore

hey i recently got into watching a lot of warhammer games and really get the urge to get an army myself. The first character that really got my attention was the great unclean one so i went to a army building site (no idea what i'm doing) but trying to get an 2k army with the great unclean one in it and accidentally made a 2k army (dont know if its correct or good or even allowed) so i wanted some tips and wanted to show you what i made on the site; Leaders: Morbidex Twiceborn The Glottkin Great Unclean One Spoilpox Sloppity Bilepiper Poxbringer Artillery: Plagueclaw 2x Units: 10 Plaguebearers 3x 10 Plague Monks 2x i wasnt sure first if skaven were allowed with nurgle, but i guess you can according to this video :p If you have any tips that would be great i would like to create an army with some unique models and are often used to save money.

@GumshoeClassic

3 жыл бұрын

There are are few things I'd suggest looking into this: You most likely wont need as many heroes as you out in here, I suggest taking some out for more troops. Plaguebearers are best in big squads of 30 (they get a discount at 30 guys and an extra ability at 20). But they are your only Battleline choice besides Blightkings, and you need 3 squads. Secondly, you have some dead ends in here, specifically Morbidex and the Bilepiper. Why? Because their abilities specifically work with Nurglings and you don't have any (you could summon them, but I wouldn't recommend relying on that). Morbidex looses half of his abilities without Nurglings and the Bilepiper would only have one target for his second ability, the Great Unclean One. If you were to take these two out, you'd have 330 more points to spend, which is enough for a full 30 squad of Plaguebearers. That way you have a full 30, a set of 20 (not optimal but at least they get the buff) and another 10 to get 3 battleline units. Or you could just take 3×5 Blightkings and be done with it, they cost about as much as 40 Plaguebearers (160 for 5 Kings, 120 for 10 Bearers, or ca. 107 if you take 30 of them). Another tip: Pull the Plaguemonks into a single squad. They synergize amazingly with the Glottkin, but their abilities can only buff one unit of Monks at a time, so putting all the eggs in one basket is the way to go. However, I have some suggestions for lists you might like (Note: going by what you put together I assume you're not super fond of Rotbringers, so I mostly avoided them here). You mentioned you're a fan of Great Unclean Ones, and, low and behold, there's a battalion that includes.... drumroll please.... 3 of them and gives them extra abilities! One can be Rotigus, a named character. It's a hefty chunk of points at 1080 though, meaning that the rest of your army becomes somewhat of an entourage for your big council of fat dudes. A Herald, so either Poxbringer, Bilepiper or Scrivener, plus 30 Plaguebearers and two squads of 20 Plaguebearers (3×5 Blightkings plus 30 Plaguebearers and a Herald is another option) would round it out, *HOWEVER* this list is *very* one-sided and somewhat of a Death Star. Also... while you get cool spells via the chonky trio, they don't get any bonuses to cast. So, depending on who you are playing against, they might completely shut down your sorcery, which you are banking on (plus a lot of your stuff casts on a seven, so you're more or less looking at coinflip, even if there's nobody to throw a club between your legs). A more balanced list, in my opinion, would be a stacked Tallyband of Nurgle: 1 Great Unclean one (or Rotigus) 1 Bilepiper 3×30 Plaguebearers 3 Plague Drones 2×3 Nurglings (to synergize with the Piper. Also they're cute) This would give you a proper Nurgle daemons list. Whether you want to take Rotigus is up to you since then you'd be wasting an artifact (you get 2, one by default and one for the Tallyband, Rotigus can't take one), but you could cut down on one of your Plaguebearer squads to slot in a Spoilpox Scrivener or Poxbringer if you wanted to have Rotigus and 2 artefacts. Now, this doesn't include rats, but the Battalion would be complete with the Piper, the Bearers and the Drones, so you could swap out the Nurglings and Great Unclean one for Rotbringers, Rats, the Glottkin (though you'd probably have to cut down on some of your Plaguebearers, the Glottkin are expensive), or even swap out the GUO for Morbidex and another pack of Nurglings if you want to go more in that directions. Just note: if you take out Nurglings, swap in a Scrivener for the Piper. These list are not necessarily super optimal, but they're fun in my opinion. Oh and don't forget about the trees, one for free and in my opinion it's generally good to have one to summon.

@TheDutchMusician

3 жыл бұрын

@@GumshoeClassic wow thanks alot for this massive explanation, tbh the list i made was with the warscrollbuilder and i just picked some characters that looked cool and make it 2k points, I have no clue what some of the units do i just picked them. i didnt even know about battalions :p I think i wanna keep it mainly nurgle and forget about the skaven models, i was just looking for a versatile cool looking army, but i dont need skaven for that. Tbh the 3 fat ones are really cool, is Glottkin included in those? only downside is since i have no army yet 3 big boys is a pretty big purchase, so i wanted to keep it to one for now. :p I figured out the best way for me to collect them (cheapish and easily) is to get 2 start collecting nurgle boxes and a box of start collecting maggotkin. that way i have the main units for the army and can expand from there (getting all the heroes, fill up the plaguebearers etc.), the information you gave me is really usefull, definitely will come back to this answer a lot :p. I also picked only 30 plaguebearers cause i didnt wanna overbuy units, and 3x5 looks to small for me (just the look of the army) but now i have a lot to experiment with, thanks a lot for your time and knowledge :D

@GumshoeClassic

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDutchMusician No problem pal :) The Glottkin are not a Great Unclean One, so they sadly can't be put into the trio battalion. The Start collecting boxes are a great way to start, especially due to the points they have in them (plus even if you don't use some of the units the box is so cheap that it doesn't really matter). Of course I suggest buying the rulebooks before you really commit to an army. They aren't technically required to play, but the Core Book gives you all the general stuff (including battle plans and spells) and the Battletome has everything for your army specifically like Battalions, abilities etc.. The Generals Handbook has the updated points for matched play, but you can find those online as well (Also there is most likely a new one coming out in a few months). There are also some supplements, Wrath of the Everchosen has subfactions for Nurgle and is some new stuff for them coming out soon-ish. But none of the supplements are required to play, just watch out for when they release an entirely new Battletome, whenever that might happen. Or maybe you already know about the rulebooks and I just wasted time, but better safe than sorry. Now, a cool thing about your choice of boxes: These are only a few steps away from a full 2000 point list (All 3 boxes are, at the point of writing this, slighlty below 1500 points). However, there's another option worth thinking about: Assuming that you want to have a daemon-focused army AND don't really care about the Pusgoyle Blightlords (the flying dudes in the Maggotkin box) or the Lord of Blights (the hero in that box), you could instead buy two boxes of Blightkings seperatelyand another daemons start collecting. The reason: Three Daemons start collecting boxes coupled with two boxes of Blightkings make a list that can include a Great Unclean One/Glottkin and has stuff to summon during the game. Assuming my notes on the recent points changes are correct, it would be a Tallyband consisting of: Two different heralds; A Great Unclean One; 30 Plaguebearers; 3×3 Plague Drones; 2×3 Nurglings; And additionally: 2×5 Blightkings; If the GUO and one unit of Nurglings are taken out, you can use the Glottkin (they can't be in the Tallyband). With that list you have 1 or 2 units of Nurglings left to summon (and of course the Feculant Gnarlmaws). Of course this is only a suggestion meant to inspire some ideas, so do whatever you fancy ;) I'm by no means a super expert on Nurgle, in fact I'm in the process of starting a Nurgle army as well. In the end the most important rule for building armies is the rule of cool. If you like something, go for it.

@TheDutchMusician

3 жыл бұрын

@@GumshoeClassic Thanks alot again, the thing is i dont have anyone to play with its more for collecting and i like to see an army of cool miniatures on my table :p I will come back when i made a new list with all this information you gave me :p

@GumshoeClassic

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDutchMusician Oh. Well, then I hope you find a list that you like :) And I gotta say... you have a good taste, Nurgle models are gorgeous :D

I was interested in them tell I seen, stupid trees, stupid trees everywhere.

Can you only have demons or can you have humans too?

@GumshoeClassic

3 жыл бұрын

You can freely mix mortals and daemons.