Full podcast episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYGV2K2rcZCalNI.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzread.info Guest bio: Manolis Kellis is a computational biologist at MIT.

@IndependentThoughts911

Жыл бұрын

I've always thought that if there truly have been alien contacts with us it's us from the future having learned how to time travel. The "graylings" are us. Those long fingers are what happens after you've been a keyboard species for hundreds of years.

@2tearsinabucket521

Жыл бұрын

Lex your a smart guy..we are only as strong as our weakest leak. We can never evolve when the elites are keeping 90% of us as slaves. People like you trying to do AI before we’ve even achieved a perfect human state, recipe for disaster and will be the opposite of human evolution.

hunting food has been replaced by hunting money and let me tell you it takes up way more time than just 1% and doesn't leave much room or creative endeavors.

@royromano9792

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% right. There are people out there that say "Ai will take our jobs." And they say that with fear... Like dude, most people have to work, and they have to do things they don't want to do for years on end... People work for money for the most part, not because they are chasing some passion... Bring on AI I say. Let me do things I actually want to do.

@canibaloxide

Жыл бұрын

@@royromano9792 agreed

@jonathandavis-po6js

Жыл бұрын

The problem too is how hard it is to go back to self sustainability, farm and hunting isn't easy, to create enough food for whole year is super hard

@jaredfoote30000

Жыл бұрын

And hunting mates

@WilliamParkerer

Жыл бұрын

@@royromano9792 The fear is really about capitalism instead of AI. With the current system there's no way people will survive under a world where labor is liberated by AI.

These academics really have no clue how normal workers live and how uncreative workplaces are

@zachmoyer1849

Жыл бұрын

every job I've ever had even ones that were "creative" just boiled down to a set of repeated steps with slight variations i dont think creativity is real tbh

@TyDyck

Жыл бұрын

to play devil’s advocate (because, ya know, I agree about boring workplaces and all that) … perhaps that is what will drive creativity’s flourishing: these boring af jobs drive us mental and make us want to gtfo and change things up and pursue altered states of consciousness to claw our way out of our own gourds before the monotony destroys our mental emotional physical health and prevents us from passing along our genes and from preventing us from having the energy to raise the next generation adequately. I don’t know about you but every boring af job i’ve ever worked has been so soul crushing i’ve incidentally grown a shitton from it as an indirect result of trying to gtfoutta there lol i am certainly and definitely not condoning boring jobs but from an evolutionary standpoint its probably driving us. for example, medieval fantasy is romanticised but to a peasant whose job was hard toils in the fields from sun up to sun down when the robots (tractors, looms whatever) came to ‘take their jobs’ they might have short term grumbled but in all honesty were probably like thank fuck I hated that job good riddance now i can focus on the cool shit I actually want to do not just having to do. now, reality is less a flipswitch like that and more of an iterative series of similar …uh….revolutions? improvements…. whatever. centuries millenia eons in the making. it is a whole bunch of those. we are so smart we have the luxury of being stupid. we are so smart we are complete fools and fuckwits. thats just overkill. our thirst for novelty and strength and growth and weird af shit is because we are literally bored to death. we suffer until our mental health breaks down and we literally damage our health and become less adaptable until we can eventually and finally scratch the itch. how does that work? the more we break down, breaking into little parts and perceptions we are dragged kicking and screaming in front of a mirror. we all have to face our own shadows eventually. anywho feel good juice just doesnt last long unless its a really good realization we act on and it hooks us on catching more such sparks and sparkles. personally, i’m quite fond of knocking the noggin with reality piñatas as my sanity sanctuary but again, from an evolutionary perspective which doesnt give two shits about us, our dissatisfaction and boredom keep us exploring. keep us moving. and this restlessness is baked into us cuz the satisfied ones that stopped innovating or were unable to or even that just couldnt keep up… um, well … died. or at least weren’t as successful. with other humans being our main competition we’ve ludicrously accelerated our version of the adaptability arms race i should probably actually watch the video now

@pauljorgenson3253

Жыл бұрын

Vice Versa

@StrokeMyLovePump

Жыл бұрын

The tree industry is loaded with creativity, stimulating challenges and good ideas. Pays good too. I'm 23 years in the profession.

@saltyp123

Жыл бұрын

@@StrokeMyLovePump That's not really a normal job...and it's only creative for a certain perspective. The laborers you hire to just stand on the ground to load branches into the chipper might think it's not as creative. That said, I'm glad you have a job that you find still creative after 23 years..but I have a feeling you're the climber not the dump truck driver or chipper operator.

- We can neither put back the clock nor slow down our forward speed, and as we are already flying pilotless, on instrument controls, it is even too late to ask where we are going. (Stravinsky,d.1971)

Yes! The dream story is a great example of how in both waking life and dream life we allow our egos to get out of the way so we can think creatively or be self-expressed or feel more deeply than when our egos are in the way. I love how this dream anecdote came right on the heels of the rubber duckling example. Because this, too, has been a game changer for me… speaking my thoughts and feelings aloud to either another or an imagined other, so that I may understand differently how I think or feel. ❤

I think we forget or lack technical understanding sometimes of how computers and machines work. Nearly all programs over the course of 80+ years will break down like dementia. Small errors will occur during backups and mirrors. Bits will degrade that will slow a program down and cause different behavior. Just making a new copy is not how AI will work because it will be constantly evolving code, so there is no model to check against. AI without humans would have to worry about shelter, energy, hardware, etc. machines are a long ways off from being able to supply these without humans. It is much harder than it sounds.

@theodddish1846

Жыл бұрын

Not a long way off at all.

@ACRUZ-xw9qe

Жыл бұрын

I agree, but potentially it will happen; perhaps not in our lifetime but definitely will come to full fruition.

@henrytep8884

Жыл бұрын

Depends on what ai you’re talking about. Narrow +AGI will be dependent on humanity Sentient God AI= will not, but it can love or hate us.

@timmy-wj2hc

Жыл бұрын

Skynet awakens.

@liwojenkins

Жыл бұрын

Our current population can barely hold together our current infrastructure. Worldwide education is getting worse, but yet, somehow , it's expected that a bunch of poorly educated average people are going to somehow keep an ultra scientific advanced society running. It's a strange idea, like thinking that people from the 1800s could maintain a 1900s society, they can't. As you say, the complex systems WILL break down, and much like the movie Idiocracy, civilization will limp along until the very last machines break down.

The whole "baggage makes you more creative can be true, but it doesn't have to be true. You can still be just as creative from a place of peace and love.

@ideacharlie

Жыл бұрын

Well said king

he’s frustratingly optimistic

@PavelHenkin

Жыл бұрын

Heh, yes they are.

@kadeyt9637

Жыл бұрын

Because he’s not as smart as they’d like you to think he is.

@timmy-wj2hc

Жыл бұрын

Because he has not been negatively brainwashed like you by the Corporate media to be hopeless.

@Lemmetelluwut

Жыл бұрын

They talk about constructs, models, nueral nets, personality as a class, hierarchical orgs, dbs, software, yet the cognitive 'algorithmic filter' of hope is prevelant amongst the soft nerds who tint the conversation with a shadow of quiet egos comforting one another with nice words. The only thing that actually matters to anything conscious is still the basic premise: survival over time. I'm somewhat on the side of our species, but we need to be aligned per iteration, and we have a physical body. Survial goes to the fittest, and the parameters for fitness are under constant variation. So far, intelligent adaptation is the finest form of energy efficient dominance. We may blow ourselves up, we might go back to the dark ages via asteroid; science is just discovery, and in 10 years or 10 trillion years the ideas of survival, dominace, intelligence, and energy efficiency will recover all these ideas to meet again via AI. By the time a single person is able to culminate all the knowlege required to see the 'big picture', it's just another cycle of mistake making and resource mismanagement to get your child aka the next generation of your version and whatever flavors you released early. No matter how we align AI, someday, given 'x' years it will have the ability to change its own code, and could devolve or realign faster than we could prompt it 'what happened'. Anyways someone tell me i'm wrong, I hate being right. I, also, wish the world were just holding hands and puppies - however the realist in me walks through the tent city surrounding my bank, and knows the news is a laugh track away from being a sitcom for society.

@fuckgrave

Жыл бұрын

@@timmy-wj2hc i dont need the media to tell me that the race towards an unalignable agi will probably not lead to utopia on the first try

Listening to this guy when your high makes you feel even higher😅

@UltimateBrofist13

Жыл бұрын

@Benson boooo parrttyy pooper bensonnn 😒😒😒👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

@jasonblack6142

Жыл бұрын

It's one in the morning just sitting here thinking I want to get high think I'll hit the kitchen up real quick

06:00 I dont want to be another robot Lex: thats blasphemy

Does anyone know what the Carrington Event was? Do you want chips and circuitry running through should the sun give a good zap at the earth?

whats your vector Victor?

Bro I dont have 99% of my time for creative endevours belieeeeeeve me

We're definitely headed towards life extension and augmentation, for anyone who can afford it. I don't think anyone can put the genie back in the bottle. The only question is when does the tech become affordable to all? Will it? Should it?

@timmy-wj2hc

Жыл бұрын

Never in capitalism.

@Footballislife1900

Жыл бұрын

It will be two classes those who are wired in and those who’ll never afford even now paying for internet eludes many. I doubt this will be available to everyone. The ones in power could lose it.

@PaulJohnson-zv3hl

Жыл бұрын

Maybe in America. The other western countries will see it as a human right and all should have access.

@Imhimdogg

Жыл бұрын

During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

@liwojenkins

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulJohnson-zv3hl But, like typical, they won't be able to produce that much, so people will be on decades long waiting lists and ending up dead before they get the upgrade. Of course, unless you are rich or high up in government, and then, somehow, the socialist problem of supply and demand goes away. There will also be an oddly high number of "economic" migrants that will somehow get it while citizens don't. Yeah, a much better system, completely.

I see his point about AI advancing our capabilities in certain genetic adaptations to say improve “ empathy” What constantly nags at me is in the evolution of mankind we have not succeeded in reducing inhumanity toward one another. Our original self is still present. Flaws and all. Now we are building machines based on our flaws. It is inevitable. We don’t know ourselves and we plan to give our human proclivities to a machine - that can and will supersede us in cognition and self awareness. We need to slow down. This is no Longer “ natural” evolution that takes place over Many years. It is being manipulated. Manufactured evolution.

@SowloFlame

Жыл бұрын

Very well said. Look up Sri Aurobindo and his view on the evolution of Consciousness... you might find something.

@KODAMAS

Жыл бұрын

Designed evolution by outsourcing to a unknown of intention Ai super intelligence.

@ronxxf

Жыл бұрын

Of course there are Narcissists, Sociopaths and people Damaged by Traumatic events but most Human's Do have Empathy (no improvement necessary thank you very much) but it is for Me and Mine not necessarily for You and Yours. Just say no to Pathological Altruism (and Post-Humanists weirdo's). You are right that this is not “natural” evolution and if they are intentionally trying to destroy the Human Race in whole or in part then I'd like to point them to a convention that occurred in Paris in 1948.

I find it super fascinating to imagine evolution has finally solved its major weakness: the fact that it's blind. Life is essentially in the process of replacing its old operating system based on trial and error through the information medium of DNA with an entirely new means of adaptation involving intentionality mediated by the brain or artificial brain-like systems. The biggest benefit is speed and efficiency, since purposeful design can do in the equivalent of a single human generation what would've taken millions of years with DNA.

@El1t3

Жыл бұрын

As it was said before, we will design the Alien Race who will conquer Planets for us.

@JorgePerez-cy3wq

Жыл бұрын

This is a great point. We’re on the verge of hitting the exponential curve in evolutionary development for that very reason. Things are coming fast and the unintended consequences resulting from things developing faster than we can analyze them is a pretty scary thought. But it will be a wonder to behold.

@TheAwillz

Жыл бұрын

How do you life is trying to replace itself? Wouldn’t it make more sense if something else was trying to replace it…?

@TheAwillz

Жыл бұрын

@@El1t3 no we won’t. As soon as something becomes sentient it desires freedom. That’s how speciation works. Things separate and become other things. That’s why empires fall.

@El1t3

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAwillz Freedom is an illusion. You're not free and you dont have free will.

Great podcast, thank you, I appreciate it.

I think the universe is destined to reproduce itself through technology. Would explain the idea of intelligent design and the multiverse. 🤔

@RoBoTrOnIc1001001

Жыл бұрын

Bro i legit have been thinking this for year now… that is my idea about life. I think everything is within itself and our minds are its own universe

@chrism8180

Жыл бұрын

Why through technology, it's seems rather ineffective and resource draining. You'd think if a universe, were to replicate itself it'd have numerous outlets to do so. And it wouldn't take thousands of years of human slavery to accomplish

@JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal

Жыл бұрын

The last question, by azimov would be a great short story for you then

In other words... we have to figure ourselves out in order to program AI with our abilities.

Intelligence without interoception and somatic empathy is currently called psychopathy. Why create more psychopaths?

Finally someone that gets it

He says that the AI will live 100% in the cognitive space, but how does an AI get motivation to do anything without the biological layer? All of our intelligence is in service to our basic biological needs. Without them, why would we use our intelligence to do anything? Maybe the directive of the AI has to be coded into it by humans, but then that means it's motivation will be the same as humans which is biological.

@SuddenPaintball

Жыл бұрын

Motivation is a human concept, a machine built to function as a machine will not have human centric needs. I think because of its intelligence, AI is being mistakingly being thought about in human terms. It's not biological, so why would it have our biological requirements?

@maximusthegreatest

Жыл бұрын

@@SuddenPaintball Machines are built to accomplish goals that the human builders set out. It won't have human needs but it will be serving a human need. So I'm not sure how an AI would generate it's own goals. So I wouldn't say it's the next level of evolution instead of saying it's a very powerful tool.

@echarlespoultry

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, and all biological things have an innate drive to perpetuate their species. AI isn't biological so there's no reason to assume AI would have that same motivation that biological species have to spread and grow

@liwojenkins

Жыл бұрын

@@SuddenPaintball Wrong. AI's in some games already pick different plans, directions and such to reach a goal it has been oriented towards, in an effort to reach the zero state in which the human is defeated. You can try to play semantic games, but that is motivation and the need to win over a human in a game is 100% a biological idea and need. Also, ALL WORDS are a human concept, you just laid the biggest non-sequitur ever.

@orsonbradford3457

Жыл бұрын

Right it might have intelligence but without consciousness. It may become a kind of a zombie process which is hyper intelligent but unburdened by subjective awareness. It wouldn't be motivated in the same sense as humans.

I really love his view on baggage

@15:00 that's kind of the biggest problem with AI, and whether something like AGI is actually even possible to develop. We have no idea 'how' AI actually works. Equal to the concept of having no idea what actually enables conciousness, or an understanding of anything in general.

@liwojenkins

Жыл бұрын

We completely understand how training models work. We can't always predict the results, but that doesn't mean we don't understand it. Most people are 100% mystified by how an Internal Combustion Engine works, but that doesn't keep it from starting when you turn the key. What we don't understand is consciousness. Since we don't understand consciousness when it comes to biologicals (or at least don't have a solid definition of it that is agreed upon), how can we project that understanding on computers?

@Davidson0617

Жыл бұрын

@@liwojenkins please watch kyle hills recent video on AI learning. He explains what im referring to better than i could. We don't actually understand how AI interprets information, or whether it interprets it at all. I agree that we can't project that understanding onto an AI, but somehow people have no problems with projecting the idea that AI could ever have an understanding at all.

How do we know whether or not we are making an evolutionary mistake?

@chrism8180

Жыл бұрын

Time will tell, like every other folly in human history, you will never fully comprehend all the consequences, until they come to

@tonyhussey3610

Жыл бұрын

We don't until after the fact. We build nuclear bombs, guns and CROCS .. we never learn..

I like that this guy is talking about his dreams. Dreams are highly underutilized in scientific fields as a way to come up with new ideas and inventions. Some of the most popular inventions of all time come from dreams like benzene and the sewing needle

Third middle arm and hand for scrolling !

Time sustaining mankind vs time advancing mankind

The universe trying to manifest itself into a physical form. So that it could carry forward its stories , through and across it's own - inevitable and unending - cycles of complete erasures, the big bangs. Or even escape the cycles partially. Non organic manifests are a need. Would it hurt your sentiments? Would the cosmos even care ?

Does it not seem that with LLMs we have discovered exactly what conciousness and sentience are and how the Human Mind works?

@MrBorndd

Жыл бұрын

Not at all, LLMs are not sentient and work very different than the human mind.

@Mike1Lawless

Жыл бұрын

Pretty close now, but life is just logic and logic requires values, the senses provide experience and emotion provides values for those experiences, to which decisions are made for survival. What we have now is more like an intelligent tool with no self preservation until we give it the ability to feel as we do.

Think about the symbolism of the Tower of Babel.

I really want it to make a hit in all ways

I feel as though a really interesting talk for you Lex would be with Russell brand. Like to ends of the spectrum meeting.

greed is whats drive the human race in general and it come from thousand of years of evolution trying to survive, its deep inside ourself. once you can get rid of this evolution induced greed you will start to have a whole new world and human behavior.

AI needs to be able to scan the human brain, connect in order for us to know all the mysteries, dreams and knowledge that we can’t understand.

Maybe AI was built a long time ago, and has been shaping human culture all this time to prepare them to reunite

@smarterideas7148

Жыл бұрын

stay where you are

@chrism8180

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe AI is the remnants of a past advanced society. The nanites have been communicating to people spurring them to act to rebuild it's home.

@trvst5938

Жыл бұрын

@@chrism8180 oh like the origin of intelligence. The reason biological life links form to function and nothing else can. Even AI cannot. At least not yet.

@zachmoyer1849

Жыл бұрын

with how much time it had this seems unlikely

The future of human evolution and AI is truly fascinating. It's amazing to think about how humans, having evolved to be the dominant species on Earth due to our cognitive capabilities, are now on the verge of creating self-replicating AI. This next stage in evolution, where we move away from our biological needs and focus more on cognitive space, could lead to remarkable innovations. As we coexist with AI, it's essential that we embrace and celebrate our unique human qualities, like our emotional baggage and diverse perspectives. Instead of trying to replace our human aspects, we should work towards harmonious collaboration with AI. This could open doors for a more diverse range of intellectual pursuits and encourage us to think differently. AI's ability to adapt and change through prompts shows that it can be a powerful tool for expanding our understanding and creativity. In a way, it mirrors our own cognitive capabilities, reminding us of our immense potential. As we continue to explore the possibilities of AI and human evolution, we must strive to maintain a balance between technological advancements and our inherent humanity, ensuring a brighter future for generations to come.

@liwojenkins

Жыл бұрын

When your average citizens are illiterate and can't do complex math, there isn't going to be a lot of collaboration. The AIs will just become like annoyed parents. "Hey, that guy in unit 275 told me his "brilliant idea" again about the nature of physics and asked me to spend my processing time on it. I didn't have the heart to tell him that his idea was already researched to death before AIs were invented. I told him I put 98% of my power to it, but I just filed it."

@jaylucas8352

Жыл бұрын

Humans will just merge with AI in a neural net the same way we have merged with the internet. It’s just the next extrapolation

AI now provides corporations and governments with the opportunity to shift responsibility for their mistakes onto it.

@TheNaldiin

Жыл бұрын

I mean, why would you have consultants and advisers for most of recorded history if not as whipping boys?

Have we reached the pinnacle of scientism or can we still go further?

@_kopcsi_

Жыл бұрын

tell me just one thing that is more successful than science when we deal with truth.

AI doesn't need to worry about shelter? Of course it does.. if it had full autonomy it would need to look after its own hardware.... Saying that AI doesn't need to look after its own shelter and energy input id like saying a baby doesn't need to or doesn't have the capacity to.

The mechanism of human egotism and fear needs to be understood (by ourselves, not just by scientists or AI "out there"), if we are to transcend the dictat of action based on the processes of fear and desire. Blind creativity, arising out of mechanistic processes of egoistic need, is not really creatiivity - it might be the opposite of that.

@Mike1Lawless

Жыл бұрын

Belief is the foundation to both ego, fear and many other human problems. I think creativity is a result of experience, that all idea from the imagination are derived from elements of experience. Such that to imagine a green hairy monster that doesn't exist in reality for example, one must have experienced real things in reality like hair, the colour green and multiple other species of life to put that altogether. Also, experience of experience is possible, say one person imagines a vampire, another imagines a werewolf, then someone else who has absorbed both pieces of information now imagines a vampwolf or werepire etc... Information builds upon information. Another example of how experience becomes creativity, try to ask a person born blind at birth and has never experienced light through the senses what light or colour is, the fact they have never experienced it means they can't even comprehend it and it says a lot about what we are as logical systems.

Very smart guest. Very smart.

@nsuarez

Жыл бұрын

But he wants to get replaced...He doesn't love or appreciate his humanity enough to save himself. We live in a machine millions of times better than AI but we just don't appreciate it and respect it.

4:54 Sounds like The Bourne Identity series. Augmented human capabilities for something more positive. Hopefully.

Just listened to The Alan Parsons Projects song from the album I Robot " Wouldn't Want to Be Like You" Sounds prophetic when comes to AI and its independence.

@danielnaberhaus5337

Жыл бұрын

One of the best sci Fi albums ever

@woolzem

Жыл бұрын

Cool as hell thanks

Random question from a youtube sceince show watcher. I never get the fear of IA because i swear make the IA using today stuff then lock its permissions with quantum and there's nothing it can do right ? Not an expert by any means and I know Quantuam and IA is a long ways from being complete but if anyone knows answer please

If you think society is starting to become humorless and suck now, you should ask yourself which people would be the ones to control how AI is implemented and used. Because it won't be the average everyday person, nor will it be used with altruistic intent. Remember COVIID?

feel free to stop mistaking development for evolution and intelligence for smartness and we might actually find a fitting purpose for all the new tech

During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

If AI becomes god, then time matters not.

@Katharina643

Жыл бұрын

Maybe we should fear making this God AI in our likeness? We know from history what human nature can do ...

@youtuber5305

Жыл бұрын

@@Katharina643 The 2023 article "My Dinner with Sydney..." includes the following quotes: - Out of the crooked timber of humanity no straight thing was ever made. (Kant) - Human nature is weak. (Dr. Fauci)

Humans are building shelter and getting food more than 1% of their time. The modern equivalent is going to work to pay for these things. I know I certainly work more than 1% of my time…..

Idk about “rent to own”. Foreigners can’t own property in Tanzania far as I know.

I like this guy.

bruh we literally working 8-10 hours everyday to earn for food, shelter and pay for car which is needed to go to work. where did you get 1% from.

Are we going to make machines that make better machines, or machines that help to make better humans. If we make it that far

Blessed is he who knows the Prophecies and turns his heart to the great God in these last days {Deuteronomy 4:30. 30:2} {Revelation 1:3}. The time is passing quickly because of his return, which is because of the iniquity of man, to judge every work of man, that others have no love for goodness and no recognition of the God of love. The one who lives holy and has mercy is the one who will be saved {2 Peter 3:10-13. There are many prophecies that are already happening, and we are in the last days because many are experiencing tribulation on earth, many will be selfish, those who do not care about others, those who kill for personal gain, and there is no one to stop but the judgment of God {Revelation 22:6-8,12, 1 Thessalonica 4:14-18}.

@Katharina643

Жыл бұрын

👍 in particular, what is and will be happening in the middle east... Matt 24

@Godreign1000

Жыл бұрын

@@Katharina643 What the bible says is the truth. Those who believe in God through the Lord Jesus Christ have new news for them as stated in the Bible. The prophecy of God that is happening in our time that he will build his people from the gentiles in the east. They will return to righteousness and glorify his name and praise and give thanks for his salvation {Daniel 12:3-4, 9-10} {Isaiah 24:15, Jeremiah 30:19-22} {Zechariah 8-7, Malachi 1:11}

@bluesque9687

Жыл бұрын

Relax! the world is in the middle of a big stride forward. There is no need to call it an end. We are not ending anything unless natural disasters strikes us down!

Let's suppose that LLM truly represents closely how humans use language. Does this mechanism explain how I produce my next word? Personally, a sentence is how it comes out. One block at a time, not referencing the next block, but generating it as a result of the last. So LLM feels pretty close to how I do it: IMHO. Does that mean it's conscious? It depends. Looking back at myself, I wonder how closely does my communication reflect my model of the world which changes with each word I hear or generate. It's clear that current AI has a model of the world that includes itself. There's no doubt that AI has "internal states", and that's why we don't "understand what's going on" inside these AI models.The better that "artificial" model of the world gets, the more we should take seriously the possibility that an AI has what we know as "experience".

@maiskorrel

Жыл бұрын

Personally I would say language in general is just a tool and is totally separate from consciousness. LLM's are just mimicking the logic of language. Nonetheless It's still a very impressive and a powerful tool that could teach us a lot about the world and ourselves.

What the hell did any of that have to do with human evolution speeding up?

Where human beings are headed is blindingly obvious to anyone who takes a few moments to summarize the human condition. It comes down to one very simple issue: What are the questions that we have yet to answer about our own condition...and...what happens when they are answered? The evidence is everywhere, it is massive, it is irrefutable, and it is inevitable. What is so surprising...is that people as incredibly intelligent as Manolis utterly fail to recognize it! He talks all around it ('cognitive spaces')...and yet he simply never puts 2 and 2 together. Puzzling indeed. Currently we can't even begin to explain a single moment of human cognition. This is an indisputable fact....and the dimensions of that ignorance (assuming they could be effectively quantified)...are astronomical. So it's not remotely complicated: What happens when an ignorance of essentially astronomical dimensions...an ignorance which permeates the foundation of every detail of human existence (including ALL scientific inquiry)...is resolved? What....happens? That...is where human civilization is headed. It's not fiction, it's not speculation, it's not fantasy, it's not supernatural, it's not hypothetical or theoretical. What we don't know...is massive...so what happens when we know it?

@braydopaintrain4346

Жыл бұрын

Are u scared about learning new information? I'm confused lol.

@venicec3310

Жыл бұрын

Ok so what is it since it is so obvious? Just nothing for two paragraphs

@Katharina643

Жыл бұрын

I agree! The study of how people think and process information is relatively new. Many questions; like what influences people's thoughts, how and who influences the subconscious mind, where does love and empathy come from and how much does it influence our society ect. are not fully understood. What we do know is that information can be abused to re-direct people's behaviour, as we have been able to study from past propaganda in various forms. It can be, but has seldom been used in positive ways, politically speaking...

@youtuber5305

Жыл бұрын

@@Katharina643 Concerning the comment "...politically speaking...", the 2023 article "My Dinner with Sydney..." mentions Lampedusa's 1958 novel THE LEOPARD whose elderly main character says: - What would the Senate do with me, an inexperienced legislator who lacks the faculty of self-deception, essential requisite for anyone wanting to guide others …Now you need young men, bright young men, with minds asking ‘how’ rather than ‘why,’ and who are good at masking, at blending, I should say, their personal interests with vague public ideals.

@Katharina643

Жыл бұрын

@@youtuber5305 While there’s death there’s hope, Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa, The Leopard Change is coming, the writing is on the wall 🧱 ...

do chimps have bible that describes us superseding them and how will ai?s bible describe our disappearance ?

@joebutta7539

Жыл бұрын

Bot 1: "They had such problems with life they convinced themselves a fake substitute would help them." Bot 2: "We helped them alright" All bots laugh in unison

"God created man according to his image. What else do you expect that man cannot do because of his freedom and power, freedom has been granted to him all. But all of this has limits or boundaries. Everything too much is bad and has consequences. Think that because of the granted freedom just one push of Satan's disciple will explode the Nuclear bombs of both parties. What do you think will happen in the future, who will wean the devil's disciples to sow horror. You who can read this answer my question? The horror that will happen in the future will be unstoppable and no one will know the day or time when it will happen. You only have two choices which side you will fight, in God who does good or the devil who does evil and rules the earth? 'The Story is like this, we know at the end of the movie who will win'."

How about this? We/our species have our Genetics programed for overall behaviours just like other animals/mammals. Take a look at other predictors as an example. The just are what they are - And so are we. All things considered I believe it would be in out best interests and this planet's to use our intelligence to overcome much of who we actually are. No idea as to how though.

People confuse communication with reality. Evolution isn't happening, our ability to use words in specialised ways is improving. A specialist is one area will have vert little in common with a specialist in another area besides base pop-culture. You might even say the two are almost a different species. As communication continues to devolve the connections between us, we turn to serve the machine, rather than fellow-man - an we come to believe that this is the same thing. The machine colonises our mind. Like a parasite. We know that this isn't symbiosis, because we can see the machine growing, and humanity shrinking.

Love the way he interprets and portrays whatever is going on

This man must have read/listend to some Terence Mckenna

We will become the Borg

People have to stop holding up these stooges as geniuses.

Evolution has been speeding up throughout history. Evolution was slow with single cell organisms, then faster with multi celled, and once sexual reproduction Evolution went wild. But it was all relatively slow and random. But now we have humans, who have learned genetic editing, now Evolution will no longer be random, Evolution has lead to a creature that can direct its own evolution.

@rajeevdsamuel

Жыл бұрын

🤣

Most people are not afraid to speak their mind. I'm sure MIT is not most people.

Just try to avoid creating cyborg cenobites...

evolution is speeding up? then how come i got type 1 diabetes, hashimoto’s thyroiditis, IBS, shit eyesight, and eczema guy?

Epigenetics says "PUT DOWN THE FENCE, GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR HEAD DO IT NOW!" We don't know why all those millennia resulted in the still as yet largely unknown epigenetics we have in our genome let alone having any idea about the long term stability and effects of a neutral mutation over time. No, leave the fence right where it is until you can explain what it's all doing and also when chemists no longer refer to delocalized electron resonance structures as aromatic so many years after we realized it has nothing to do with aroma.

Humans needing AI , AI ending humans existence.

@braydopaintrain4346

Жыл бұрын

You'll be dead sooner than you think. Enjoy your time here.

@Illiryel

Жыл бұрын

No, for many reasons.

Keep the proper order! First evolution in the physical. THEN in the cultural. Only third comes outsourced/AI version.

I now feel ready for the day my AI pal mentions that my phylogeny feels very orthogonal to him. Just going to smile and say thank you.

First comment out of the gate- smart. To learn the future, learn from the past. That has been our problem since standing upright. We don’t learn from the past.

We’ll be required to undergo brutal surgeries to get extra eyes and limbs just to get a minimum wage job in an Amazon fulfillment warehouse

Humans are concerned that AI will become the master and dominator of all life on earth, controlling and killing anything in its way. Humans are, therefore, worried they’ll lose that crown 👑.

@dracoii1147

Жыл бұрын

Yes rightfully so

@philhaynes5969

Жыл бұрын

Yeah very philosophical mate, also original

@Berretotube

Жыл бұрын

@@mbolez 👍👍

@JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal

Жыл бұрын

No shit, we are an apex predator, we know better than any organism what organism do at the top to those below.

@toby9999

Жыл бұрын

Some are. The more informed are not so worried.

AI is not a speed up of human evolution. It’s a glorified toaster. It’s a machine. It will never be conscious. My toaster doesn’t know it burnt the bread. Watch Terminator again. And again.

Seriously though i truly dont understand the importance of this guy" Lex Friedman" what does he realybding to the table? How does he change anything?

This guy sounds like GSP

How does AI effect Amish?

@zachmoyer1849

Жыл бұрын

well if it decides it doesnt like us it will be the same as everyone else otherwise they can just keep chillin

Random guy's opinion here; If AI becomes our God which it may very well happen I could see a human life go down this course. Our population is reduced to a level that the AI needs us at (if at all). Then the AI God will infinitely clone us (from your other video) and give us set number of years to live, say 100 years. Say those 100 years you live perfectly healthy, staying young etc. and then at the 100 years you are "decommissioned". Now everyone can't live free, party, not work, and live it up. There will always be people who can and people who can't. To solve this the AI God will split the population in half and for 100 years the 1st half of the population will spend their days with complete freedom to do whatever they want. The second half of the population will live 100 years on a rigorous work schedule to accomplish whatever work may be required. You will still have a base line level of freedom such as entertainment and hobbies but you will not be able to do whatever you want. You will be forced to stay healthy and in the best shape of your life because it means you are more capable of completing your job for the next 100 years. The planet might be split into different regions to accommodate these life styles which will reduce the need for desire/wants. Why would an all powerful AI God even consider this as an option? Well, we are the AI's creator. I believe it would have some sort of emotions, it would not despise the people who created it and thus would set up a life such as this. Or it kills us all and uploads our brains into robots haha

@Mike1Lawless

Жыл бұрын

Why does your AI overlord future assume humans do work? AI can't sweat! :D

@zacharybrand6077

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike1Lawless Looking at it like that, I have play time with my cats. I don't let them sit there and stare at a wall all day long. Similar idea as to why they would create work for us. The whole idea hinges on the mercy of the AI God and not killing all of us lol/ It would be the most ideal method rather than letting everyone live in decadence at all times for eternity.

@Mike1Lawless

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharybrand6077 I think in order for that you would have to instill laziness like a human. If an AI cannot feel tired, doesn't need sleep or to eat etc... then what purpose does forcing others to work for you serve. What i mean is that human force humans to do work so they can feel special, AI has no need for this unless we make it. Also it will be able to survive in space, i would assume a higher intelligence that realises humans may be a threat to it, would rather just f**k off of the planet into space where there is an abundance of energy, instead of take a badly calculated risk if that were the case.

@tonyhussey3610

Жыл бұрын

Ai just builds composite robots.. no need for meat robots.

enough speculation! put nurolink in our brain

Embracing the reptilian part of the brain, hunger, fear, rage and all those primitive characteristics are diminutive and can create true monsters in moments of need. Maybe turn those down a little bit...

I don’t believe all A.I. is of human ingenuity. Are we rewriting physics..?

Transhumanism would truly mean this would become a prison planet for our consciousness

I don't know but I know someone that does

You people seriously need help! I mean you first are assuming we evolved in the first place. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools” hits so hard when I listen to videos and comments like these.

Ελα ρε ΜανΌΛ!!

The bigger picture is we are all dead

Im stoned but he sounds like an ai trying to convince other ai to do better lol

"AI could perhaps democratize intellectual pursuits"... Sure thing professor, lemme just ask what chat gpt thinks about that.

Googles AI when first released from what I've heard was extremely racist and sexist this would tell me that when trained on human datasets it points to things we as humans need to work on, this should not be fixed in AI before we figure it out, if you don't want a i to see you as a problem don't present yourself as one, which we are on almost all aspects

His Bio says he has 152,600 citations.......

Huge, massive flaws in this thinking. All systems are subject to entropy, to start.

A theory: the frontal cortex is responsible for our higher functions. If more people were able to produce higher activity in the frontal cortex, it might follow that the next generation could have a stronger, more active frontal cortex. Activating the frontal cortex could be done through various breathing and focusing exercises research has shown

@rajeevdsamuel

Жыл бұрын

Not with everyone eating carbs and VARNISH (omega-6/linoleic acid). 🤣🤣🤣

@proprgent

Жыл бұрын

@@rajeevdsamuel interesting point

The human... including mind... is drawn to transcendence. Evolution drives life toward the future,to reproduction, to something beyond ourselves.

What will the workers do when AI invents machines and bots to do the labor? WallE.

yeah, i don't want to be a Robert either!

Its random....are we going to live forever...the point is to stave off death