A new ETYMOLOGY STORY about the word "World"/"Mundus"/"Mundo"/"Cosmos" kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKentKuNqrquZ7w.html

@RamonGil

3 жыл бұрын

This may seem very strange, but the spiritual evolution of people will come into play here. Understanding the past gives us a clue to the future

@micharaj2041

3 жыл бұрын

And what are your sources for all of this? Because according to the latest editions of German etymological dictionaries, it is a misunderstanding to link these two words. "Sklave »Leibeigener; unfreier, entrechteter Mensch«: Das Substantiv mhd. slave, spätmhd. sclave ist aus gleichbed. mlat. slavus, sclavus entlehnt. Das auch in den roman. Sprachen lebendige Wort (vgl. gleichbed. franz. esclave, span. esclavo und ital. schiavo) geht zurück auf mgriech. sklabos »Sklave«, das über Zwischenstufen auf griech. skylon »Kriegsbeute« zurückgeht. Da das Wort im Mgriech. mit der griech. Bezeichnung der Slaven zusammenfiel, bildete sich die irrtümliche Auffassung, dass die Sklaven im mittelalterlichen Orient meist Slaven gewesen seien." DUDEN. Das Herkunftswörterbuch. Etymologie der deutschen Sprache, 5., neu bearbeitete Auflage, 2014, p. 786 "Sklave Sm std. (13. Jh.), mhd. sklafe, slave. Entlehnt aus ml. sclavus, das über *scylavus zu gr. skyleuo, skylao 'ich mache Kriegsbeute’ (zu gr. skylon n. 'Kriegsbeute’) gehört. Damit fiel die griechische Bezeichnung der Slaven, mgr. Sklabenoi, später zusammen, was zu verfehlten etymologischen Vermutungen Anlass gab. Adjektiv: sklavisch; Abstraktum: Sklaverei; Präfixableitung: versklaven." KLUGE. Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache, 25., durchgesehene und erweiterte Auflage, 2011, p. 853 Greek σκυλον en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%83%CE%BA%CF%8D%CE%BB%CE%B1%CE%BE

@Dian_Borisov_SW

3 жыл бұрын

Cyrillic and glagolitic aren't languages

@paulapprich776

2 жыл бұрын

Mundus may be from Rasna/Etruscan.

@paulapprich776

2 жыл бұрын

PIE *klewos run through the Grimm and Vernier filter gets rather HLOUD!

First time i hear you speaking english. I thought you were a native Roman from 50 BC.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I wish! thanks

@FabioLuizBraggio

3 жыл бұрын

Good one! LOL LOL

@FabioLuizBraggio

3 жыл бұрын

He is a real Roman soldier reincarnation, after more than two thousand years! LOL

@atriyakoller136

3 жыл бұрын

@@FabioLuizBraggio Rory? That's short for... Roranicus? (I had to include a Doctor Who reference)

@FabioLuizBraggio

3 жыл бұрын

@@atriyakoller136 Straight back from Rome... LOL

"Ciao" is our (Venetians') biggest gift to the world, together with Aperol Spritz! :D

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Sì!

@Vessy95gg

3 жыл бұрын

Brao vecio! 👍🏻

@aleotto5187

3 жыл бұрын

Just a little point. In the Venetian republic the complete respectful formula was “sciavo vostro” in the meaning to be sto complete disposal of the person. My 2 cents

@pumpkin91ful

3 жыл бұрын

Lo spritz non era una eredità austro ungarica?i soldati austriaci aggiungevano acqua gassata al vino veneto/ does the Spritz was a tradition of austro ungarian empire ,?the austrian soldiers used to add sparkling water venetian wine ..

@pumpkin91ful

3 жыл бұрын

to the *

As a Serbian, this blew my mind lol. In our language, Slava is also glory but is also used to describe a st. patrons day each family celebrates at specific dates in the year. Slovo also means letter. We also use Ciao as a greeting.

Cleo Patra meaning "glory of the father" blew my mind, it's so obvious now lol

@elenagasper571

2 жыл бұрын

yours too? Sure blew mine

@santilie

2 жыл бұрын

@@elenagasper571 Same as the male version Patroclus (like the supposed lover of Achilles) but inverted!

@jaklm4221

2 жыл бұрын

@@santilie Wasn't Patrokles the cousin of Achilles??

@fanaticofmetal

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaklm4221 yes, and Achilles was in love with him

This guy must feel like a romam emperor every time he says a Latin word.

@lorenzoarecco9503

3 жыл бұрын

Ahahaha if you were Italian you would notice the small mistakes of pronunciation (that is still great congratulations)

@shadowxxe

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzoarecco9503 In Latin? you do know he doesn't speak ecclesiastical Latin (the Latin taught in most school) but rather classical Latin which was spoken during a time in the roman empire's rule

@markoer

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzoarecco9503 I am Italian and, at least in this video, he has made no pronunciation error - neither in Italian nor in Latin, unless you can pinpoint them to me and convince me of the contrary.

@MRHEY

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzoarecco9503 he didn't make any errors, he's using a different latin pronounciation

@klol3369

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzoarecco9503 i feel like i constantly hear people who live in a bubble not realize ecclesiastical latin is not roman

He switched from his typical Classical Latin w pronunciation of v, to actually sounding as v since he was referring to Medieval Latin etymology. What a badass.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I’m so glad you noticed when I switched! 😃

Here in Brasil, "tchau" - inherited from a large italian comunity here since XIX century - work only as "bye".

@sandrothenecromancer6810

2 жыл бұрын

Now we say "falou" instead of tchau

@AnaCaruso9

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandrothenecromancer6810 flw, vlw kkkkk

@Nat.ali.a

2 жыл бұрын

To think this simple small word come from a whole expression from Latin...

@buioso

2 жыл бұрын

In Italy we say "ciao" basically always but the formal situations

@terminallyonline5296

2 жыл бұрын

Ugh I love linguistics

The three words for Slave are still used in portuguese: •Sevus - Servo🇧🇷🇵🇹 (pronounced like servu) •Schiavo - Escravo🇧🇷🇵🇹 (pronounced like shcravu) *(sometimes in southern brazilian portuguese pronounced like iscravu)* •Ciao - Tchau🇧🇷🇵🇹 for bye

@franzliszt8957

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes? I’m pretty sure that’s the most common way to say that, except for Rio, the Northeast and North.

What I find interesting is that nowadays "ciao" is one of the most informal greetings in italian ("Salve" being the more formal and roman-esque), while in fact coming from a very formal and polite greeting meaning essentially "your most humble servant". Fascinating.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Isn’t that funny?

@kingjaehaerystargaryen

3 жыл бұрын

That's interesting because, in Brazil, "salve" is considered informal.

@davidgalindez4856

3 жыл бұрын

In Spanish salve is very archaic, it’s only used in very old literature.

@Claroscur0Astral

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingjaehaerystargaryen isso...isso

@Ichnos76

3 жыл бұрын

I'm italian and i like to use 'Salve' instead of ciao very often 😊

In southern Germany/Austria, you might wish someone goodbye by saying "Tschau, servus!" one after the other.

@MaxMustermann-go8xf

2 жыл бұрын

In the Future I am going to extend this to Ciao, Servus, bin dein ergebener Diener! Just to make sure.

@shark753ac7

2 жыл бұрын

I think this stuff is also related with the german word "tschüs"

Im Brazilian and i found very interesting when i went to Bavaria in German and ive heard some friends saying "servus". Immediately i knew the meaning of the world, although asking them they just use the world to salute each other, without even realizing it means I'm your humble servant.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Olá e servus!

@Delibro

4 ай бұрын

Yea, in Bavaria this greeting is used very often/mostly, apparently cus of its proximity to Austria-Hungary. In the rest of Germany it is used very informal and occasionally only.

I have never experience being mesmerized by just looking at the screen and learning etymology at the same time.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome to hear! Thanks!

Another Italian-Venitian word has spread internationally: GHETTO. In the XVI century the Venitian Jewish people was forced to live in the district of Cannaregio. This district already had a huge copper foundry, "geto" in Venitian dialect (from "getar", "to pour", "gettare" in Italian). Thus Venitian Jews used to call this area "GHETO", and not GETO. They had mostly Ashkenazi roots, so they germanized and harden the original Venitian pronounciation of the word.

@greenmachine5600

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, also roman Jews have an even older history and are not ashkenazi

@rab0664

3 жыл бұрын

also, quarantine is an Italian venetian word and practice

@lorenzoarecco9503

3 жыл бұрын

@@rab0664 yes! I'm Italian "Quaranta" in Italian means 40 "Quarantena" (quarantine) means "40 days of isolament". Isolament (isolamento in Italian) come from "isola" (that means island). So "isolamento" means "being alone as an island"

@justanorange3168

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzoarecco9503 Guarda che isolamento in inglese si dice "isolation" non "isolament"

@lorenzoarecco9503

3 жыл бұрын

@@justanorange3168 hai ragione, mi sono confuso con l'inglese di Malta

Fun fact: The city of Schiavi d'Abruzzo takes its name from his founders, a slavic community, and the etymology of its name is similar to what you've described in this video.

@ciaotiziocaius4899

2 жыл бұрын

I thought about that place the moment he said "schiavo"

@adrianacabrera4262

Жыл бұрын

Fantásticooo!!!No lo sabía...a mis 65 años escucharte en inglés, dando la etimología de"chau",es estar "De bem com a vida".Me llamo Adriana,soy de Uruguay, haciendo uso de mi tiempo jubilatorio.Gracias, Luke...

I am italian from Venice...and I endorse this video! Very well explained!!!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Grazie, Daniela! 🇮🇹 ❤️

Very good Italian 👌🏻

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Grazie, Elena! 😃

@Yorgos2007

2 жыл бұрын

Il Sig. Luca Ranieri parla benissimo l'italiano :)

@martincassar5927

2 жыл бұрын

Noi maltesi diciamo ciao anche noi ma per dire arrivederci

@ziopino3761

2 жыл бұрын

@@martincassar5927 Even in Bulgaria. Ciao "чао" is used only when friend/s are/ is living .

@martincassar5927

2 жыл бұрын

@@ziopino3761 thank you

In southern Germany and in Austria servus is a common greeting. In the northern parts of Germany, above the wall that marked the Roman Empire border (I forget what it’s called), servus is never used.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Parts of Germany that were connected with the Austrian or Austro-Hungarian Empire tend to use "servus," or once did.

@dvdbrdnvcz6722

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke ich komme aus Polen, aber jetzt wohne ich in Sachsen, Deutschland. Sachsens Deutsche sagen auch ganz oft Servus.

@VoicePassion

3 жыл бұрын

polýMATHY hi Luke! My neighbours all greet me and each other with Servus, which I have not yet dared to use in reply. The v is not like a w. I live in Bavaria. My husband has family living in Hungary and often heard the servus from the Hungarians with the soft w sound. Fascinating video- but I was shocked when you started to speak English at the beginning, I forgot which channel I was on!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

@@VoicePassion Haha thanks so much! Yes, it's weird for me too when I'm not speaking Latin. 😂

@adrianvscaesar2798

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke No Brasil Ciao se escreve Tchau , um cumprimento de despedida .

Molto interessante, complimenti per l'accuratezza della spiegazione! È stato affascinante seguire il percorso etimologico, attraverso i secoli, di una parola che uso tutti i giorni.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Grazie, Francesco! 😃 Sì, una storia sia strana che interessante.

@miovicdina7706

3 жыл бұрын

Assolutamente! Incredible job.

@alessandrodonadi1368

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke cioè parli meglio l'italiano di me, complimenti vecio (wink wink)

@puntinoedit12

2 жыл бұрын

@@alessandrodonadi1368 wow

@gauntlettcf5669

2 жыл бұрын

@@alessandrodonadi1368 find the Lombard-venetian 😂 Ciao da Brescia, gnaro! 😁✌

OMG! I'm italian and I've always wondered what the etymology of the word 'ciao' was. Thanks for the clarus explicatio ♡

" I remain your humble and obedient servant" as an archaic and formal way of ending a letter exists in English as well, definitely makes sense now

@jeremias-serus

2 жыл бұрын

I first read this as Alexander Hamilton’s verse when he’s saying this to Aaron Burr lol

@kadmii

2 жыл бұрын

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 verily!

Bravo, perfetto!! Deriva dall'antico saluto veneziano "S-ciao suo!"="Schiavo suo", cioè "a sua disposizione!". Da lì: "S-ciao suo" - "Ciao (suo)" - "Ciao!" :-))

@lorenzoarecco9503

3 жыл бұрын

Vai che le sappiamo tutte

@JuanPyro

3 жыл бұрын

Grazie Gabriele :)

@miticogabry68

3 жыл бұрын

@@JuanPyro prego! :-)

@wallacesousuke1433

3 жыл бұрын

@@miticogabry68 "prego" in Portuguese means "nail" (as a noun) or "(I) preach" (as a verb)

@sebastianozambon4862

3 жыл бұрын

Gabriele mi permetto di correggere una cosa,i veneti non usavano la terza persona singolare come in italiano ma la seconda plurale per cui era sciao_vos sciavo vostro

In Portuguse we have: eslavo, escravo and tchau.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Sim!

@isaac4273

3 жыл бұрын

You mean: Lingua lusitanica?

@ricardolichtler3195

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaac4273 Vel língua latina hodierna Lusitaniae.

@TammuzMC

3 жыл бұрын

servo tbm

@ricardolichtler3195

3 жыл бұрын

@@TammuzMC Sim, sim. Quis frisar as palavras derivadas de "slavo"

2:01 Missed an opportunity there to drop a mad bar like "Their fame, their name, it's all the same" lol

i' m italian i studied ancient greek and latin and i did not know that!!!!!i have a new respect for the word " ciao"!💖💖💖💖💖

From what I understand slavic people call themselves "slowianie" in contrast to their germanic neighbours with they call "niemcy" - which means mute

@TheSpadaLunga

3 жыл бұрын

Right!

@tijanahajdari8223

3 жыл бұрын

True, I'm from Macedonia and we were taught in school that we were called SLOVENI. And the other word, NEMCI, was a name for the german soldiers in the second ww...and yes, it does mean mute, but until you mentioned it, i never realized. Maybe it means something maybe it doesn't...

@dougr.2245

3 жыл бұрын

Polish spelling makes it confusing. In pronunciation for English speakers Slovak spelling makes more sense; Slav is "Slovan," Slavic is "Slovansky." In Czech & Slovak slovo means word & Nemecky is still the word for Germans.

@AristoKan

3 жыл бұрын

@@tijanahajdari8223 This might seem innapropriate but since we are both interested in the origin and specificity of what we say i would like to clarify that Macedonia is not the optimal way to refer to your country since the term Macedonia alone refers to a region which includes parts of six Balkan countries and one which is stated in nothern part of Greece. From your comment i believe you have slavik origin which makes me assume you must mean N.Macedonia. If im incorrect accept my sincere apologies.

@svansy

3 жыл бұрын

Germáni in Czech. Němci are specifically Germans. it stems from němí, meaning mute. same logic as the background of 'barbarian'. it's used in West Slavic languages. neighbors have better imagination when naming each other after all. Danskjävel is another good example of this tradition. there is no such pettiness in how other Germanic nations are named (in Czech at least). just a lot of random pastries and meat dishes being named after random nations.

I already knew this, but I watched all the video because you have such a pleasant voice

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Aw thanks!

@erikaterlini3093

3 жыл бұрын

Mi associo 😁😁

@Silvianamo

3 жыл бұрын

Anche io : )

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

@@Silvianamo :)

Very interesting 🧐 And today in (slavic) Serbia we use Ciao as regular way to say Hello. Full circle is made. 😅

Wow! I'm Italian and it didn't even (ever) crossed my mind to look it up! Thank you for this! 🙏🏽 P. S. As someone else already said, very good Italian pronunciation! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@polyMATHY_Luke

2 жыл бұрын

Grazie mille

It's true that the name "Slavs" (or in Polish, "Słowianie") is derived from the word "słowo". It's from the times when all the different Slavic languages hadn't differentiated yet. Moreover, the name for the Germans in almost all Slavic languages is a form of word "Niemcy", derived from the word "niemy", which means "mute", "someone unable to speak", because while one could communicate with fellow Slavic nations without any major problems, the people who lived further West spoke completely different, Germanic language.

@AndreiIorgulescu

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting thing, though not a Slavic language, in romanian we also use "nemți" (reads similar to the Russian version) for Germans, but only informally.

@ArghastOfTheAlliance

3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreiIorgulescu Yeah, it may be a borrowing from the surrounding Slavic languages, just like in the Hungarian language.

@marcusr4399

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreiIorgulescu yes, your language has adopted some slavic words.. like nemți and slava=honour

@zeljkokuvara6145

Жыл бұрын

And slovo means? In modern Croatian = letter in older versions word, speech

In Catalan we say “siau”, clearly derived from “ciao”. We normally use it in compositions such as “Adéu siau” (bye bye) or “Apa, siau” (alright, bye). In Danish we still say “e’ens” (“ens”) meaning “even”.

@carlesviader6262

3 жыл бұрын

Viggo I think your theory is wrong. In catalan we say "adeu siau" or "siau amb deu" clearly coming from the verb "èsser" but not the italian "Ciao". This is another possible origin of Ciao simple the verb " to be" with god in this case. Regards

@gavinomura391

2 жыл бұрын

"Adéu siau, Messi!"

Loved this. Sensational

This was like watching a movie for which you had already had the end spoiled but the story still captivated you. Ciao!

And here I am - a Russian (=slav) who knows English, likes Italian, learns Japanese, and likes your videos. Thank you!

@marlenapallido3575

3 жыл бұрын

Тесен мир, ciao

@fabiocabral6574

3 жыл бұрын

ultimate chad

@Demetris59

3 жыл бұрын

@Bengu Wengu says who? if we are not slavs, then no-one is.

@eratm6266

3 жыл бұрын

Раб

Re the etymology of the word Slav, it does indeed come from the root word "slovo", i.e. "word", but in a different way than described in the video. The original form of the word "Slavs" was "sloveni" - "people who have the word", i.e. "people who can speak [properly]". The antonym of "sloveni" in this context was "nemtsi" - "mute people", which is still the way German people are called in most Slavic languages. My apologies to any German people reading this. :/

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly right! I decided to skip over this detail for the sake of simplicity. Perhaps I'll cover it in a future video.

@viamedia2704

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke Yeah, that's a fair point, I can see how it can get confusing and distract from the main point of the video. :)

@CrisSelene

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, neamț, nemți is still used in Romanian as an alternative for German. I didn't know what it meant and where it came from

@isancicramon0926

3 жыл бұрын

I learned this too, when I looked for the origin of the Arabic name for Austria/Austrians, nimsa, nimsāwi نمسة، نمساوي. How ‘nemtsi’ found its way into Arabic though, I don't know.. yet!

@CrisSelene

3 жыл бұрын

@Aa9 we had Slavic tribes which settled on our territory and assimilated . We are and we never were slavs.

Hai dato la spiegazione più esaustiva possibile. Neppure un professore di dialettologia italiana sarebbe capace di tanto. Complimenti.

I remember hearing many times in Goldoni comedies the use of "servo vostro" when saying goodbye. Using "servo" which is a synonym for "schiavo".

Being Slavic myself I never really considered "slava" as "fame" to be related to "slovo"(word). But after your research I realized that back then - being talked about was considered being famous or "slavny" in Slavic language. So "slovo" and "slava" are so related to each other. Thanks man. Another blind spot in my vocabulary eliminated!

@aryyancarman705

3 жыл бұрын

random fact its related to Greek kleos and Sanskrit srava

@bigfairy321

3 жыл бұрын

in Polish, Slawa, also means fame/glory.. ie Jestem slawny (i am famous/known). Funny thing is about this video, in Polish we say "czesc" for hi/bye like "ciao" in Italian.... so Slawa become servent, which became ciao, which in now czesc in polish, heh

@pawelharutiunow9622

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigfairy321 nah, cześć is cognate with Russian честь (pronounced cieśť), I think both come from proto-slavic ċьstь

@bigfairy321

3 жыл бұрын

@@pawelharutiunow9622 ok, didn't know that..

@blinski1

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigfairy321 I always thought 'cześć' as greeting has also Latin origin, but in a different way: it is just a direct translation from Latin greeting. 'Cześć' means 'ave', and just like in Latin you can say 'ave (someone)!' - 'cześć (someone)!', which means 'hail (someone)!', and you can also say bare 'cześć', just like 'ave' in Latin, to greet someone.

I remember letters to my parents from various public officials, in the 1950s, which ended 'Your humble servant' - which was the last thing they actually were. It seems like a different world!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

How impressive!

I really need this guy to read everything to me. There is something soothing about his voice but is also just perfect.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Aw thanks is so much! What books would you like to see on my audiobooks store? 😊 I have mostly Latin at the moment: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com

This just blew my mind!!! I've been living in Austria using Servus on a daily basis for decades and I NEVER knew this. You weren't exaggerating when you said studying Latin is like seeing the matrix! Thanks for putting me on this exciting adventure! 👏👏👏

I didn't know Saitama studied languages. Anyway, your italian and latin pronunciation is excellent!

@cutebunny6690

3 жыл бұрын

Mi sa che è italiano

@thesicilygamers

3 жыл бұрын

@@cutebunny6690 nono è americano ma parla perfettamente latino, italiano, giapponese e altre lingue, uno dei motivi per cui mi piace la linguistica è proprio averlo potuto incontrare

@richardblackhound1246

3 жыл бұрын

He speaks Latin like a native ancient Roman!

@leonardofonseca4598

3 жыл бұрын

He looks like an italian

@hijodelaisla275

2 жыл бұрын

They is.

Wow your pronunciation is really satisfying. Glad reddit sent me here!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Oh thanks! You mean my English pronunciation or my Latin pronunciation?

@Amethyst11ln

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke Latin, I assumed you were a native English speaker

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

@@Amethyst11ln Ah thanks! 😊 In that case you'll love the videos on my Latin channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJZ1zJqMoNSye5M.html

Wow! You have a new subscriber. I am an old, grisly, British near-monoglot who has been aware that he's missing something from his education. Fascinating video and I'll be browsing further. Ciao!

Every time you talk in an other language than English you remind me so much of Age of Empires 2. And that's a compliment from me.

I never imagined the origin of this word. In my country, Argentina, the extensive italian immigration leave a huge mark in our language, and one of this is the use of 'ciao' as a greeting. Thank you Luke for this ilumination!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

¡y gracias a ti!

Now I know where the English habit of ending letters with “I beg to remain your most humble servant” comes from, it’s almost a direct translation of the Latin. It always seemed strange to me that, especially in the Victorian era, where they were everything, but definitely NOT humble, they should end their letters like that!

@DavidFraser007

2 жыл бұрын

It was required when writing a letter to my Commanding Officer. Just accepted protocol.

@hijodelaisla275

2 жыл бұрын

Pretending to be humble was considered good form.

I can listen to his voice all day.

I am so glad that KZread recommended your channel to me! This is my first visit. I will be back.

I'm brazilian and was curious about the origin of the word not only because it's found around many latin languages (like portuguese) but because when was studying a bit of vietnamese I got surpised to find out that Chào is a interchangeable word for hello and goodbye, as in Italian.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

That's right! The Vietnamese word is the same by complete coincidence en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ch%C3%A0o#Vietnamese

@pile333

3 жыл бұрын

Crazy!

@RECAMPAIRE

3 жыл бұрын

May be a word brought there by Marco Polo :D

@pile333

3 жыл бұрын

@@RECAMPAIRE Let's just imagine if you were right! 😁

@thevannmann

3 жыл бұрын

@@RECAMPAIRE Very very unlikely lol. There are a number of Vietnamese words that people mistakenly believe come from European languages. Some others include: phở and bánh mì, which both have Chinese roots too.

As an italian learning serbian I can say that these 2 languages have lots of words in common.

@redflower2827

3 жыл бұрын

I am from Serbia and yes that is true we have lot of words that we share and Italian prounansiation (sounds/phonology) is very similar to Serbian. Greetings!

@coolborndj

3 жыл бұрын

@@redflower2827 Yeah I noticed that. For me it was so easy to start speaking it because lots of the sounds are basically the same(like lj, nj, ćč, š and đ dž). the only problem is the cases which we used to have in latin but now they're absent.

@coolborndj

3 жыл бұрын

@Blue WindThe R too. Also for me, learning the Cyrillic script wasn't that hard, but reading it is sometimes complicated if it's written badly😂

REALLY INTERESTING!! ❤️❤️

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

¡Gracias, Elena!

Except the whole video concept... Why is his voice so good to hear?!

En castellano tambien usamos chao....pero solo cuando nos despedimos de manera informal....saludos

@josegabrielvizuete3071

3 жыл бұрын

Aún se me hace extraño que chao sea saludo en algunos países pero los españoles lo convirtieron en despedida 😂😂

@ultras_fino_alla_morte

3 жыл бұрын

@@josegabrielvizuete3071 en italiano ciao se utiliza siempre que sea para despedirte o cuando encuentras alguien.

@ultras_fino_alla_morte

3 жыл бұрын

@@josegabrielvizuete3071 saludos desde Italia 🇮🇹

Great job on this video Luke. Really enjoyed it, going to share it with my students!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Weilà Tom thanks so much! Tell them I say ciao! Much obliged for your stellar videos over the years, by the way.

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke Thank you Luke! You're doing a great job with your channel. Latin is fascinating and we're lucky to have people like you sharing your knowledge of it!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Weilà Tom troppo gentile! Grazie mille. 🇮🇹

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

@ eccone un altro che forse ti interesserà: l’origine di “mundo”! kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKentKuNqrquZ7w.html Appartiene a Halloween 🎃

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke Perfetto, grazie!!

I could listen to him speak Latin all day long

I’m so glad I stumbled onto this channel. I’ve always been obsessed with etymology and now I speak Italian but somehow I never took Latin. It’s incredible but true. My Italian great grandmother spoke 23 languages, was the first woman to get a degree in languages in Italy and I clearly remember near the end when she had a stroke she would speak many languages in one sentence. Sometimes Ancient Greek and Latin would make an appearance. This channel is encouraging me to stop being lazy and learn more languages and particularly Latin. Maybe it’s too late to be a polymath like yourself or my ancestors but… I’m going to give it a try.

Interesting! they still use Servus as a greeting in Austria today.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that's right! 😃Long live the land of Edelweiss kzread.info/dash/bejne/naWr07ltdLS1k7A.html

@AndersGehtsdochauch

3 жыл бұрын

In Bavaria too! Servus! (for hello & goodbye)

@Paul-vk7bx

3 жыл бұрын

Not just in Austria and Bavaria, but in most of south Germany, at least so i think. in my region (Pfalz, or palatinate in English) it's commonly used. but we belonged to Austria from 1815-16 and to Bavaria from 1816 to 1946, maybe that's why xD

@AndersGehtsdochauch

3 жыл бұрын

@@Paul-vk7bx yes, i suppose so 😉

@andreidumitru6473

3 жыл бұрын

In Romanian we use all 3 versions presented: servus, salve, ciao ( sometimes spelled&pronounced ciau) plus "salut" which is the main word we use for an informal hello.

In Brazil we use the word tchau as you would say goodbye in english. It's really common around here. Cool video!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Obrigado! Tchau! 😃

@gabrielpisciottano6077

3 жыл бұрын

Aqui en Uruguay tambien saludamos con CHAU

@andrebrait

3 жыл бұрын

And only "goodbye". It's really confusing when you walk into an italian place and they greet you with ciao. Seriously, it gets me every time. I just stop there, trying to process what the hell is happening, only to remember half a second later thay they also use it as a greeting.

@carloslandeo932

3 жыл бұрын

In Perú, we also say «chau» or «chao» as a common way of saying «goodbye».

@thadeusgaspar224

3 жыл бұрын

actually "tchau" is just "bye", "goodbye" would be better translated as "Adeus", since it might have the implication that those persons will never see each other again, or depart indefinitely

Here, in Argentina, we say "Chau" (that sounds pretty much the same) to say "bye". We even use the italian accent to speak spanish... too many italian immigrants! haha! Great content in your channel BTW!!

@hijodelaisla275

2 жыл бұрын

Careful about that "too many." Many of my Italian relatives emigrated to Argentina in the early 20th century.

@nycbass78

2 жыл бұрын

Im Ecuador we also use Chao/u as an informal goodbye also.

@felicepompa1702

2 жыл бұрын

Lol i think you are part italian since your last name "fassino" is i think northern italian

@PADARM

2 жыл бұрын

@@hijodelaisla275 We are very proud of our Italian-Argeninian people, Like Messi, Maradona, Manu Ginobili and the great Dr Rene Favaloro

@hijodelaisla275

2 жыл бұрын

@@PADARM Los italianos están entretejidos en la tela de Argentina y contribuyen a su carácter particular.

Fun fact, in Venezuela we use Ciao (Chao) to say goodbye. Due to the influence of Italian immigrants in the history of the country. Actually, the Spanish we speak in Venezuela has many words with Italian, French, African, English influence, etc. We are a really cultural mixture 😁.

@georgenahas54

3 жыл бұрын

@Charles Yes hahaha, my grandpas are from Syria. We have a lot of Arabs too.

In spanish: 1) Muy interesante como degeneró la palabra desde "servus" (siervo) hasta "ciao" (hola / chao); en la actualidad en español puedes usar fórmulas parecidas a "Servus humillimus sum, o domine sectabilis" pero en la despedida, frases como "a su orden" o "a su servicio". 2) Siempre me llamó la atención la semejanza entre "esclavo" (slave) y "eslavo" (slavian/slavic), pero pensando como romano, tiene sentido. Congrats by your channel, my thanks to you for the awesome work you are doing (re)floating the latin, matriarch language of our western languages, even english like our cousin. Ex Venezuela Salvete!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

¡Muchísimas gracias! 😃

@mikicerise6250

3 жыл бұрын

En inglés, de hecho, a menudo he escuchado aquello de "I am your humble servant," supongo que como traducción directa de la fórmula latina. Ciao, de un hispano-eslavo. ;)

@NexusMJ

3 жыл бұрын

Creo que todos los idiomas del romance mantienen vocabulario relacionado con servus? En Portugués tenemos "servo" y también expressiones con la palabra como "ao seu serviço" y "o seu humilde servente" quando hablas con personas de respeto. Y pués que tambien utilizamos ciao pero lo escribimos xau y solo para decir adiós y nunca hola.

I'm from North Macedonia, bordering Serbia. Yes, at school they made us read books from the 10th ,12th century, of course, adapted from old slavic to a comprehendible slavic language. The titles were SLOVO FOR this person or that person...meaning praise for this person or that. Glorifying a person in those books whose title was SLOVO FOR CYRIL for eg.

Man, when you speak Latin you leave me lost for words. Total respect !

Dude, your content is amazing, "Ciao" from Florence Italy

Interesting stuff as always, as an Italian myself I had no idea of the origin of Ciao until now... Grazie! 😃

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Grazie a te!

Damn, you didn't skip your phonology classes I guess. How many languages were mentioned in this video? You pronounced everything with utmost perfection, wtf

@Rob-wl8dy

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too ... simply amazing 👏

@marcusr4399

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, also the russian word слово was pronounced correctly (second o=a) Good job!

While there is semantic overlap, in Japanese normally "language" is 言語 (gengo) while "word" is 言葉 (kotoba). The same -go suffix is seen in "Japanese" 日本語 (nihon-go), "Latin" ラテン語 (raten-go), "English" 英語 (eigo) etc.

impressionante! non ho mai sentito alcuno parlare così bene latino , italiano e greco. Sei un alieno! Complimenti!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha grazie! 😃🇮🇹♥️

I had not thought about how close the words for “word” and “glory” are to each other in the Slavic languages.

In greece we say ciao only when we leave a place , never when we enter. (I dont know why though).

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Ναί! Σε διεθνές επίπεδο, αυτή είναι η πιο κοινή χρήση, για να πούμε "αντίο."

@hliask903

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke Μιλάς και νέα ελληνικά!! Μα πόσες γλώσσες ξέρεις πια;

@pierocioni7417

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that is the way. Ciao should be said when we leave. Ciao

@wdg2736

3 жыл бұрын

Same in Germany

@spiritusIRATUS

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke As a Greek ultra-fan of etymology and languages you blew my mind with this, I never thought of such a connection. Also, I love the delivery and your greek pronunciation is impeccable. You have earned my subscription. Συγχαρητήρια για το κανάλι σου!

No doubt that u are our Servus humillimus sum teacher :)....for sure, am now part of the "Sclavus" group to your "κλέος" channel!! Ciao Sir :)

Greetings from a Venetian. The etymology of the word ciao is one of my favourite stories I tell abroad. Thank you for the nice video

Very interesting, your videos have grown my interest in Latin again. I love Latin now.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

How nice to hear!

Ottimo video, maestro!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Grazie, Davide! 😃🇮🇹

And a big region in Croatia is called Slavonia (Slavonija).

As hungarian. I can tell that we use this mostly while texting or chatting on internet to say good bye as "cscs" literally "csáócsáó" "ciaociao". It is a short cut. In real life if we use Eurpean origin greetings. It would indicate that we are not in a close relationship. This is an evolving process that has been keeping my attention. So if we say "hello" or "ciao", "servus" it is not as kind as we would greet you with "szia". (it is pronounced as "see-ya")

Absolutely fascinating, I was definitely surprised by where it took me. My friend is from Latvia and they use it there to this day; thank you!!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

How cool! They say "servus" in Latvia?

@Ears324

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke My apologies, they say ciao!😅

@Ears324

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke However, considering the legal entity that is Riga, was established by the Hanseatic League, Id absolutely believe thats where it came from.

Una curiosità: conosci anche il sardo? Impararlo dovrebbe essere una passeggiata per un individuo come te, che possiede una conoscenza vastissima di latino e italiano. Probabilmente il problema più grande che incontreresti sarebbe quello di trovare dei testi adatti alle tue esigenze.

Funny how "Ciao" comes from such a formal greeting, whereas in modern-day Italian it's considered an informal one, only to be used with people you are acquainted with or who explicitly allow you to use that word with them

@hijodelaisla275

2 жыл бұрын

I understand the informality, but not the "explicitly allow." You have to ask permission to say "ciao" to acquaintances?

@der_strange9962

2 жыл бұрын

@@hijodelaisla275 When you meet someone you don't know, or a superior at work, you usually start by addressing eachother formally, we say "Dare del lei" ("usted" in Spanish or "Sie" in German). If you become more well acquainted you might agree to address eachother with the "you" (tu) form, thus using "ciao" instead of "salve", "buongiorno" or "buonasera". Hope I explained it well enough, let me know if you have other questions :)

@hijodelaisla275

2 жыл бұрын

@@der_strange9962 Thanks for taking the time to answer. Much appreciated!

@der_strange9962

2 жыл бұрын

@@hijodelaisla275 You're welcome, man. The pleasure was all mine :)

@gi1937

2 жыл бұрын

It's a very common linguistic phenomenon in many other languages. For example if i remember correctly in old japanese the word 君 kimi was very formal. Nowadays it's very informal and it's just one example

lovely content - I'm italian, I love english, studied ancient latin and greek at school and for passion (a bit of hebrew too) and I married a polish/german woman. I'm so happy that I found you in the meanders of the internet!

That's crazy. As a language and etymology nerd, I can't believe I never thought about the origin of "ciao" and its variants. Great video!

Non ci voglio credere! Non immaginavo minimamente che il termine ciao avesse queste origini. Devo dire che più volte, studiando latino, mi so posto questa domanda ma senza mai andare ad approfondire. Grazie tante per l'approfondimento.

I did not expect the origins of ciao to be this complex wow! very interesting!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I am multilingual and found this fascinating. Exceptionally put together. Thank you

Video davvero molto interessante! Non sapevo che questa parola avesse un'origine così antica, grazie mille per averci spiegato la sua etimologia in modo così preciso!

Wow. To my minimally trained (languages in vocal music) ear, each time you say something in another language, you sound native. I'm realizing more and more that the accent and cadence of a language is just as important as the sounds themselves. Is there something like IPA that helps dictate cadential patterns in languages?

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the generous compliment! As for intonation’s importance, that’s extremely observant of you! I study this exact subject in my research into ancient phonology. I suggest we continue the discussion on my Discord - just tag me there and we chat about it in the group: discord.gg/u4PN2u2

Hi from Venice Italy, you really nailed it buddy. Ciao!

Wow, tremendamente affascinante questo video, da italiano ho imparato cose che non sapevo. Complimenti

@polyMATHY_Luke

2 жыл бұрын

Grazie mille, Fabio!

The Swedish greeting "tjenare/tjena" also means servant. It's cognate with the German "Diener".

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating!

@iamnorwegian

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my lord, that makes so much sense now, holy cow! I've always wondered why swedes said that for "hello".

@patrichausammann

3 жыл бұрын

Yes those words seem pretty related, actually there were made only some minor changes like one or two letters down or up in the alphabet and there was made a change in the direction of a letter like the "u"/"v" to an "n".

@abruemmer77

3 жыл бұрын

​@@patrichausammann In Germany people used to say "Your servant" ("Ihr Diener") or "At your service" (Zu Diensten"/ "Zu Ihren Diensten") as a humble or polite greeting.

@okaro6595

3 жыл бұрын

It originate in Greek "diakonos" which means servant. Word deacon/diakon is of the same origin.

You know all those ancient languages so deeply that I guess you could enjoying traveling much more than an ordinary person like me, since you can see cultural connections unknown to ordinary people who don't know anything of old languages.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

I really do enjoy traveling! Especially for the reason that you mentioned. 😊

This channel is GOLD 💰

Soy mexicano y pienso que tu contenido es muy interesante e informante, nuevo suscriptor. Molto bene!

@polyMATHY_Luke

2 жыл бұрын

Gracias

Also a very popular greeting in Portugal! Edit: usually said when saying goodbye!

@gobbleguk

3 жыл бұрын

Tchau!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Fixe!

We need more etymologies like this one. Loved it!

As an Italian, I guess more or less all of us know the etymology of the word. It is something we learn at elementary school (don't really know why). But I have to say, you have a wonderful way to explain it. Also you have a wonderful voice :)

In Swedish we often use "tjenare" /ɕeːnarɛ/ or just "tjena" as an informal greeting. "tjenare" comes from a Stockholm dialect pronunciation of "tjänare" /ɕɛːnarɛ/ (servant)

In Ecuador we also use Ciao but as Chao ,which sounds identical just spelled differently,it’s used as an informal goodbye only.we also minimize it as in Chausito which translates as little Ciao,therefore giving it a more endearing way to say goodbye.👍🏼

@kyonidesarkanthos7438

Жыл бұрын

In Costa Rica it could be pronounced as chao or even chau.

By far the best and most historically accurate explanation of "Ciao". I'm in awe of this young man's brain.

As an Italian teacher who lives Iin Austria, who therefore uses both ciao and servus (here we pronounce it "sevas") I appreciate a lot your video. Well done!