Driver was 100% correct waiting for the green light.

@aleloAT

29 күн бұрын

in austria you are supposed to enter the crossing if it is possible & safe to do so if an emergency vehicle needs to get through

@bumpkinrocks

29 күн бұрын

@@aleloAT in England you'd could get a fine and 3 points on your licence, 12 points is disqualification mostly. Unless you're directed to by a Policeman in uniform it's illegal.

@OleGitRule

26 күн бұрын

@@bumpkinrocks 100% correct - plod also know this but try to bully cars out of the way, fight it and go to court and get told you should have waited

@gary63693

5 күн бұрын

I would of waited to. Should of judged that junction better. You would know it like the back of your hand if you patrol round these parts

@ZXC5000

4 күн бұрын

Driver is correct here. Police should have shut the siren off and waited.

Another 30 odd seconds doesn’t really matter when you consider they are responding to an in progress burglary called in three weeks previously.

@David-xp7sr

3 күн бұрын

Judging from the auditing videos I've watched they are rushing to a report of a man taking pictures of an industrial estate.

Police totally in the wrong . If the car had gone through the red light he would be committing an offence and risk putting himself in danger by emerging onto the other road .

Police drivers are not allowed to use siren/horn to push other road users to pass stop lines at a red signal, this should have been reported.

@c00sto

Ай бұрын

Bullshit, a warranted officer can push you through an ATS at red. They are the only service that are allowed to do so, fire brigade and ambulance service can not.

@butterfatrat1226

Ай бұрын

They had there sirens on. That being said they did not only use there sirens to push him out of the way.

@westfieldracer

23 күн бұрын

Correct, at first I was happy that the 'cop' car silenced his siren & waited but then he had to become Mr.Bully boy.

0:31 the responder was late cancelling the tones but did eventually just to reactivate them ten seconds later at 0:41 defeating the whole point in cancelling the tones in the first place, no driver is exempt from running reds, what the officer should have done is continued ahead then turned right and gone on his way much faster, what the police and courts think are two different things, police think you should move for them regardless where as the courts say you shouldn't run reds or enter bus lanes etc for them and will prosecute you for it, my advice would be to pass this footage on so the officer can be given words of advice and is told not to try and force drivers to commit offences. I know people will say "if this was your family bla bla" the responder even if it was a ambulance could have continued ahead and cut right instead they went behind the white car which clearly had no where to go so that's on them, they created the situation by not thinking ahead which is apart of blue light driving, uniformed officers can take control of traffic and direct vehicles but they have to be out the vehicle and in uniform which this officer was sat in his car with no way of judging risk or directing traffic if needed making it dangerous neither did he give any instructions to the driver in front.

@mrnumbskull2048

20 күн бұрын

I agree, just poor forward planning by the police driver.

Rule 219 of The Highway Code states: 'You should look and listen for ambulances, fire engines, police, doctors or other emergency vehicles using flashing blue, red or green lights and sirens or flashing headlights, or Highways Agency Traffic Officer and Incident Support vehicles using flashing amber lights. When one approaches do not panic. Consider the route of such a vehicle and take appropriate action to let it pass, while complying with all traffic signs. If necessary, pull to the side of the road and stop, but try to avoid stopping before the brow of a hill, a bend or narrow section of road. Do not endanger yourself, other road users or pedestrians and avoid mounting the kerb. Do not brake harshly on approach to a junction or roundabout, as a following vehicle may not have the same view as you.' Therefore, as outlined above, if there is an emergency vehicle behind you with its emergency warning signals on, it might be possible for you to manoeuvre out of the way to allow it through. Ideally this should be to the side of the road without encroaching into the main area of the junction (see below). It should only be done when it is safe to do so without putting yourself or other members of the public in danger and it should only be done slowly and carefully. If you do cross the stop line at the junction whilst the lights are on red, you will commit the offence of contravening a red traffic light. It's important to remember that in committing the offence (crossing the stop line) the onus will be on you to provide evidence that you did so to allow an emergency vehicle through. That may be considered as mitigation, but there is no guarantee that it will be. If the police decide to prosecute you for the offence and you choose to challenge that decision, it will ultimately be a matter for a court to decide.

@neiljohnson8589

Ай бұрын

Spoiler: in pretty much all cases of prosecution due to causing a traffic offence whilst allowing an emergency vehicle to pass, end up with the driver being convicted.

@TheScunneredMan

24 күн бұрын

Veer off into bus bay for Blues & Twos and cameras pick you up and fine you. NO COMMON SENSE.

Police car had an alternative route to the left and seems to have missed it. We all make mistakes but doing it on blue lights is embarrassing.

They cannot force a vehicle through a red light….protocol is to leave the blues on, and turn sirens off, till the green is showing.

Driver was correct. I got a fine for being in a bus lane because I moved over and went behind a bus to let a couple of fire engines go past. Only move out the way or pull over when it’s safe and legal to do so.

@gary63693

5 күн бұрын

Emergency vehicles have been told to use the bus lane, as no one else is allowed in there. Makes progress better

the cops is obviously stupid...

@AttitudeCharter

2 ай бұрын

The policemen ARE obviously stupid Mr. Clever.

I don't think it would have been that hard for the BMW to climb the curb to get around if it was a real emergency call.

driver is doing the legal thing, unless the officer told him to move he cannot go through a red.

@Nox1234567891011

2 ай бұрын

HMM MAYBE THE BLUE LIGHTS AND THE SIRENE IS A GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT HE WANTS HIM TO DO ?!?!?!??! OMFG

@PokerMuppet

2 ай бұрын

@@Nox1234567891011 that is actually illegal from the police vehicle as was mounting the pavement! Maybe you need to learn the rules of the road too?

@petercdowney

2 ай бұрын

Furthermore, a police officer can only direct a driver through a red light when in uniform.

@africansinclair

2 ай бұрын

it is illegal to go through a red light to move out the way of an emergency vehicle, unless directed to do so by the police who are directing traffic.

@petercdowney

2 ай бұрын

@@africansinclair Directing traffic is also one of those police powers that can only be exercised when the officer is in uniform.

This is on the police though. Drivers are not allowed to go through a red light even if an emergency vehicle is behind them trying to get through. What the cop car should have done instead is take the lane to the left (Where there were no cars as the lights were green) and simply turn right through the turning lane or whatever that lane is and pass the traffic lights like that.

In South Wales, the cops use only their lights without sirens just to cut through traffic and not wait like everybody else. They stop for red lights, slow down for speed cameras but they don’t care about abusing their positions.

@1tonyboat

15 күн бұрын

I thought the cops were limited to 20 mph like every one else in Wales !

Its up to the emergency vehicle to pre see the route they need to take around the red, there was an easy route around had he not gone straight up the arse of the white car. Had the white car gone through the red with a gatso camera, he'd get points & a fine so car was legally correct to wait & the bully knew it which is why he first waited & silenced the wailers but became impatient

Under old rules the driver could move but now new rules, Driver is correct to wait for green light.

I'd go through the red where I live (somewhere in West Mids) because there's no red light cameras, etc. I sure as hell wouldn't somewhere like London.

Driver cannot go thru red even if emergency services are behind them

Cops probably going to pick up egg an bacon barm

The fact that it's illegal to move out of the way, by crossing the line at a red light, or for the officers to mount the pavement, makes me sick to my stomach. I hope that's changed soon! What's wrong with you? 😪

@c00sto

Ай бұрын

Wrong, police officers are able to guide traffic through ATS showing red, comes under same powers they have to close and redirect the king's highway.

@mortgagewizard40

4 күн бұрын

@@c00sto A constable in uniform..

Driver couldn’t have did anything. Red lights. Oh by the way, that motorcyclist camera resolution is outstanding

Had he gone through the red, in the UK, he could have got a camera ticket which he would then have to pay.

its worrying that you dont understand the basic traffic rules isnt it

That copper was trying to make his problem become the car in front's problem.

If the Police officers were in uniform, one of them could have exited and directed the front vehicle through the RTL,otherwise 100% correct by the car driver ,not to cross the line, imagine if a car had timed it slightly too late coming the other way and a crash ensued, the police car would have had to wait there. Having said that, there should be some protection in law for vehicles that cross the line on a RTL to allow emergency vehicles a free passage

See you're supposed to be able to go through but, if the lights have a camera you'll get a fine and you'll have to prove in court that there was an emergency vehicle behind you at the time, which you likely wont be able to

Hey mate ? Is it okay to use it please ? Credited of course, thanks in advance.

You might want to re-edit the title

Imagine being trusted the uphold the law but not knowing basic road rules. Trying to encourage or force another road user to break road laws is illegal, even if it's the police doing it.

You first see if it’s safe to proceed, then move forward and over to the side. Don’t sit there like a bump on a log. Those lost moments cause cost a life.

@gary63693

5 күн бұрын

Highway code says stop, so we stop. End of. Were not getting a ticket because you know nothing about traffic offences

This is officially too much for me to handle.

The police car could and should be reported. They have no right to encourage a vehicle to break the rules of the road even if they are on an emergency. Furthermore they are not allowed to mount the pavement that way either. Just goes to show that you don't know the law either as you're making fun of the driver!

@ThexSvns

2 ай бұрын

well hopefully it's not your family member in an emergency needing emergency intervention while a first responder is being blocked in a situation that could safely and easily be avoided.

@astronomy171

2 ай бұрын

Rules of the road, the police even publicly announce that emergency vehicles should not be 'bullying' other road users through red lights and to commit a road traffic offence, unless the officer has instructed the driver to do so. Rules apply to all situations unfortuantely, regardless of the priority. I don't agree with it, however it prevents traffic collisions and much more.@@ThexSvns

@PokerMuppet

2 ай бұрын

@@ThexSvns 1, it's a Police vehicle, not an ambulance or fire engine. 2, the above doesn't matter... as emergency vehicles are told not to sound sirens or encourage vehicles to put themselves in danger (including going through a red light even if it looks clear). If there had been an accident, no matter how slight or small, then the emergency vehicle would be forced to stop and attend... AND the driver going through the red... well they are legally responsible, not the emergency vehicle. You can be snotty all you like, but you are in the wrong.

@ThexSvns

2 ай бұрын

@@PokerMuppet If there's sirens sounding near an intersection, then all opposing traffic should be pulled over and yielding which would clear the car to pull through the intersection. Police have a faster response time than ambulances to clear the scene. You're wrong.

@PokerMuppet

2 ай бұрын

@@ThexSvns you're still wrong... moving traffic doesn't always see or hear the lights and sirens and especially in cities it can be difficult to tell where it's coming from. Regardless of opinions though IT IS THE LAW so even if you think you make sense, you are WRONG! Deal with it.

Could have gone on low kerb

I believe you can go through a red light, safely, if you are letting an emergency vehicle past, however I am not sure if not going through red constitutes obstruction…. I‘d imagine if you blocked them normally it would be a problem, but here you can‘t expect someone to put themselves potentially at risk by going thru red. Just a thought

@DB-dx8xu

2 ай бұрын

Nope going through the red light commits a traffic offence only emergency vehicle's can and in our city they turn off the siren's until the light changes amber to green and then you must move to allow the emergency vehicle past even police road safety websites will answer on this

@zygimantasgasiunas2791

2 ай бұрын

In Europe, you give a space to pass doesn't matter what kind of light you see. Because already everyone see and knows that emergency services is going through the crossing. Also, cameras have the footage proof.

@DefaultMale_

2 ай бұрын

@@zygimantasgasiunas2791 in the EU, not europe :P Im nitpicking however

@laudnunoo1915

2 ай бұрын

Not in the UK you can’t.

@PokerMuppet

2 ай бұрын

@@zygimantasgasiunas2791there are lots of things you can do in Europe that isn't as safe as it should be. The UK has these rules directly because vehicles used to do exactly as you are suggesting and often caused accidents... to which the emergency vehicle is obliged to cancel their 'red call' and attend the accident they just caused instead. Oh and the vehicles going through a red are held responsible.