"When They Saw the Red Flags, It Was Too Late" | The Case of Kay Baker & Michelle Rogers

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March 17th, 2017: a woman calls 911 in Michigan after hearing strange noises from across the street. As she steps outside to see what’s going on, her neighbour cries out so loudly that the operator can hear it on the other end of line. May 28th, 2022, Five years later, two calls come in to 911 in Florida - a woman is frantically alerting the authorities that something strange is happening across the street. What the cops find when they arrive at the scene of the crime will reveal a connection that will finally catch a violent attacker, who has been getting away from the law for years.
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  • @CBrown86
    @CBrown862 ай бұрын

    The fact that she is still fighting for full custody against a murderer shows you exactly how corrupt the system is.

  • @tlcetc4506

    @tlcetc4506

    2 ай бұрын

    I was going to say it made sense she wasn't heard after realizing the family/custody court was involved- I know from experience especially if that was in MI (kind of lost track with the jumping back and forth between victims).

  • @kostasvrionis781

    @kostasvrionis781

    2 ай бұрын

    Βρομάει το σύστημα πάντα και παντού

  • @divawendy

    @divawendy

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed, it's definitely insane

  • @edwincastillo8280

    @edwincastillo8280

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@tlcetc4506I agree. It's late for me but, that jumping around was a bit annoying. I had to rewind a few times in order to keep track of each victim 😂😂 I'm not even sure but, we're they both friends already & Kay knowingly, still dated him?!

  • @James-gk8ip

    @James-gk8ip

    2 ай бұрын

    That's not what corruption is.

  • @DizzyIzzy.
    @DizzyIzzy.2 ай бұрын

    What the actual fuck is wrong with the American legal system?

  • @AquariumWizard

    @AquariumWizard

    2 ай бұрын

    Most things.

  • @Wiikidmicky

    @Wiikidmicky

    2 ай бұрын

    money is the only thing that speaks. Our country has turned prosecuting criminals into a game.

  • @doctorshortiecx

    @doctorshortiecx

    2 ай бұрын

    It is set up to benefit the men that created it and punish poverty.

  • @jaysmith179

    @jaysmith179

    2 ай бұрын

    Sad the Liberal Democrat judges and D A s are letting these folks out of jail. Just like what happened to the collage girl in Georgia.

  • @HillaryBTV

    @HillaryBTV

    2 ай бұрын

    *Canada Justice system is terrible too.*

  • @thatonegirl299
    @thatonegirl2992 ай бұрын

    who the hell would you bail your kid out of jail if they just tried to kill someone, that’s absolutely ridiculous.

  • @aromaladyellie

    @aromaladyellie

    2 ай бұрын

    You think he’s innocent. You think he’s being framed. You think there’s no way your son would or could do anything like that. No matter the proof.

  • @marbleherogaming735

    @marbleherogaming735

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@aromaladyellie i still would not bail them out, let them prove their innocence in court

  • @effaroundfindout

    @effaroundfindout

    2 ай бұрын

    My exes parents bailed him out every time he tried to kill me. He had them convinced I gave myself black eyes and broken noses. Even with witness statements. It figures though, parents have to be pretty screwed up in the head to create a monster like that.

  • @patedwards8844

    @patedwards8844

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@effaroundfindoutyes, evil exists 😢

  • @jackieacheson4928

    @jackieacheson4928

    2 ай бұрын

    Lots of parents defend their effed up kids like that.

  • @hylianflower9681
    @hylianflower96812 ай бұрын

    If my kid did this to anyone im not bailing them out. How the fuck do those parents have no dignity

  • @smolexfundie6458

    @smolexfundie6458

    2 ай бұрын

    rich people tend to not have many morals

  • @darkblondewatch8652

    @darkblondewatch8652

    2 ай бұрын

    money and power talks.

  • @A_N_E_T_A_GLITCH_I_DONT_SIMP

    @A_N_E_T_A_GLITCH_I_DONT_SIMP

    2 ай бұрын

    👁️👄👁️🚬

  • @tencentpistol1

    @tencentpistol1

    2 ай бұрын

    Nobody gets rich by having morals or conscience. In fact, you need the exact opposite to achieve that.

  • @beevonerd

    @beevonerd

    2 ай бұрын

    Nbs you're dead to me. Foh, that's insane. The mother of the man who killed my brother tried to apologize to me in the courthouse bathroom and I told her to go to hell bc my mom could never raise a kid who did what hers did. BOTH of hers. Her older son killed someone on the same fkn street 10 yrs prior. 😭😭

  • @jbmaitre5758
    @jbmaitre57582 ай бұрын

    Michelle is STILL fighting for full patental rights of her son with Matthew Terry???!!! HOW?? How is a convicted murderer able to keep his "parental" rights after what he inflicted upon her and mudrering Kay??!! MIND-BOGGLING I hope you win this battle too Michelle...

  • @esctruecrime

    @esctruecrime

    2 ай бұрын

    It's truly mind-boggling. Michelle's determination is admirable. I hope justice prevails, and she wins this battle for her son's sake.

  • @audreym3777

    @audreym3777

    2 ай бұрын

    Welcome the just-us system. My ex was a meth addict, in rehab after his 2nd felony and miles of FV reports and RO’s…and was given visitation in rehab, supervised by his parents who had RO’s against him as well..🤬

  • @blondegiraffe2023

    @blondegiraffe2023

    2 ай бұрын

    I believe if a parent has been charged with strong evidence against them that they have heavily assaulted the other parent of their child... they should forfeit all custody of their child.

  • @morganablackwater2017

    @morganablackwater2017

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah but mra will be crying how men lose custody over nothing...

  • @jbmaitre5758

    @jbmaitre5758

    2 ай бұрын

    @@esctruecrime ABSOLUTLEY!!!!

  • @anntares172
    @anntares1722 ай бұрын

    If another woman tells you a guy is a red flag, believe her. It's not worth the chance this happens to you.

  • @denastrackeljahn1250

    @denastrackeljahn1250

    2 ай бұрын

    You are not kidding.. My grandchildren's mother is now married to my daughters abusive ex. It just happened so fast. She told me she wasn't dating him three days later she posted that they are married. The next day she is pregnant. She knows exactly how bad things got. I honestly just don't know what she's thinking I'm absolutely terrified for my grandchildren. And she thinks it's funny that we are concerned. .

  • @raphk9599

    @raphk9599

    2 ай бұрын

    Hush now. You would do the same. He was rich. He was handsome. He had power. He came from money. You would have let him shit in your mouth.

  • @donnaroberts4565

    @donnaroberts4565

    2 ай бұрын

    @@denastrackeljahn1250 Oh dear.. This sounds like danger for all involved. You be careful yourself if he see's you as a threat you could very well be first on his list of things to do... Be safe hun xxx

  • @denastrackeljahn1250

    @denastrackeljahn1250

    2 ай бұрын

    @@donnaroberts4565 Thank you I know you are right. It scares me, I am very worried about my little grandchildren I know we can't let fear control us. But when children are being harmed at an alarming rate. How am I supposed to feel. Where I live we just found out ( due to mother turning herself and her crime in) that on Valentine's Day a mother in our tiny town repeatedly stabbed her five year old to death. I'm devastated our town is shook . I can't imagine what her daughter was thinking, poor baby definitely didn't understand why her mom was doing what she did. I just, well it's actually why I'm still awake tonight..I can't get that little girl outta my mind. I'm sorry I just started crying and trying to get it out of me. I'm just going to stop now. Thank you for your concern and kind words.

  • @Britttanyy

    @Britttanyy

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@denastrackeljahn1250swear I'm not trying to be funny, just trying to understand.... so one of your daughters is dating your other daughters ex?

  • @smolexfundie6458
    @smolexfundie64582 ай бұрын

    god damn michelle is so strong to testify in court after what she went through. I’m glad she survived. It is sad that she “couldn’t save” the other woman, but i hope she doesn’t blame herself. it’s not her fault.

  • @meganlangreck2488

    @meganlangreck2488

    2 ай бұрын

    She tried. And it is sad and chilling to see how sad and haunted she looks because it didn't work.

  • @JoBlo321

    @JoBlo321

    2 ай бұрын

    I know I'm not saying the politically correct thing here, but if someone sends you pics of what the guy you are with is capable of doing...you run...you don't ignore the warnings! That boggles the mind. I too tried to warn a woman who was dating my narcissistic ex to no avail...she had to experience it firsthand in order to understand. I don't get it. I didn't bother after that!

  • @moimoi2994

    @moimoi2994

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@JoBlo321exactly!

  • @themevrouwdewi

    @themevrouwdewi

    Ай бұрын

    Fr, at the VERY LEAST you hire a private investigator.

  • @ultimatums1

    @ultimatums1

    21 күн бұрын

    Jodi Arias says hi.

  • @rickallen1908
    @rickallen19082 ай бұрын

    Judge was right. He should have already been in prison. As a 66 year old male with 5 sisters, I'll never understand the mentality.

  • @jaysmith179

    @jaysmith179

    2 ай бұрын

    Sad the Liberal Democrat judges and D A s are letting these folks out of jail. Just like what happened to the collage girl in Georgia.

  • @moyamontgomery1468

    @moyamontgomery1468

    2 ай бұрын

    As a 61 year old with five brothers who had an enabling mother I understand the mentality all to well.

  • @musakui

    @musakui

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@jaysmith179🤡🤡

  • @KatieKillsjoy

    @KatieKillsjoy

    Ай бұрын

    @@moyamontgomery1468sorry can I ask what you meant by that? Understanding the mentality

  • @honeyflower2782
    @honeyflower27822 ай бұрын

    Did they not HEAR the 911 call?? How on EARTH is that possibly self-defense? As a woman in America, I am terrified that if something bad happened to me, the judicial system will let me down, like it does so often

  • @magical8013

    @magical8013

    9 күн бұрын

    Especially if the other person has money

  • @AquariumWizard
    @AquariumWizard2 ай бұрын

    Imagine how invincible he felt after being bailed out that first time. When the legal system is pay-to-win, justice cannot be found

  • @apriljk6557

    @apriljk6557

    Ай бұрын

    It's no wonder parents with money in this country raise pathologically entitled people who believe (and are mostly correct) laws and the social contract don't apply to them. What are the moral and social consequences for a person who cares so little about others, even their "loved" ones, that they're willing and able to resort to violence, if they have SOMEONE ELSE who'll post bond and pay for their lawyers?

  • @yup_its_ME.512
    @yup_its_ME.5122 ай бұрын

    How can that *animal* claim self-defense??!

  • @morganablackwater2017

    @morganablackwater2017

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly... Its mental

  • @BenitaBoo-xw6yx

    @BenitaBoo-xw6yx

    Ай бұрын

    And he won. Like wtf

  • @yup_its_ME.512

    @yup_its_ME.512

    Ай бұрын

    @BenitaBoo-xw6yx our justice system is mind-boggling for sure!

  • @missmicheleeexo2269

    @missmicheleeexo2269

    Ай бұрын

    Happens every single day. People will say anything they have to (true or not) to get out of going to prison.

  • @user-ll6zn3xv9v

    @user-ll6zn3xv9v

    25 күн бұрын

    Money talks

  • @rejanedesevigne
    @rejanedesevigne2 ай бұрын

    His parents should be in prison, too. How dare them use money to get their pathetic, poor excuse for a human, low life son out of trouble. I'm so sorry to hear of all the sadness these families had to endure because of him May he rot in prison.

  • @sunshine3914

    @sunshine3914

    2 ай бұрын

    They should at least be on trial for murder accomplices.

  • @lesliebean4594

    @lesliebean4594

    2 ай бұрын

    How this wasn’t classified as obstruction of justice, or harboring a fugitive I’ll never understand.

  • @meganlangreck2488

    @meganlangreck2488

    2 ай бұрын

    They should not be able to do what they did. But our legal system loves its loopholes that work for violent monsters.

  • @donnaroberts4565

    @donnaroberts4565

    2 ай бұрын

    Hope he gets the special kind of prison justice everyday.

  • @kingjoseph5901

    @kingjoseph5901

    2 ай бұрын

    Blame our government and court system

  • @matrixiekitty2127
    @matrixiekitty21272 ай бұрын

    How a jury saw his bruises in comparison to the brutalizing of that woman, and still ruled it was self defense, unreal. The lack of value of women’s lives in the eyes of the justice system is unreal and disgusting.

  • @joanodom2104

    @joanodom2104

    2 ай бұрын

    Femicide is rampant; it's a global epidemic.

  • @whatintheheck4692
    @whatintheheck46922 ай бұрын

    There should be no bond for DV. My sister almost died because her ex posted bond, ignored the protective order, and came back for her.

  • @raythornton8578
    @raythornton85782 ай бұрын

    This is our American injustice system. Money buys the cops, the judges, and the attorneys. I love my country but hate what it’s become. Our society has become disgusting. I did two tours in Vietnam and thought that I was fighting for justice and all the other crap. I would never do it again knowing what our country and politicians would turn into.

  • @benmcreynolds8581

    @benmcreynolds8581

    2 ай бұрын

    I totally agree (Thank you and I'm sorry you went thru experiencing Vietnam. Especially when your views & perspective on things have changed) It's frustrating how lost America is right now. It's become so unaffordable & dysfunctional. Our country is capable of so much greatness yet idk why it's not being utilized? There's so much potential. Yet Our gov. seems to have zero interest in improving these issues & improving the lives of its citizens. Our cities feel disconnected, soulless, bland, unaffordable, etc. I really don't like the direction modern America has gone. We could do so much better. I love this country. I just want to see things improve. The 90's at least had a range of prices & places where people could live, unique things to do & places to go. Poor People, middle, upper class. There was places for people of all economic ranges ~Nowadays we have universally unaffordable cost of living, rent prices, shop rent prices.. (unless you are wealthy) I don't understand how long we can continue to function in this extremely dysfunctional manner?? I hope things change. People stuck in poverty need places to live too.. it's ridiculous how our current system pretty much requires everyone to be financially well off or you are screwed 👍🏻 It's so realistic 👍🏻 it's completely impossible for everyone to be financially well off. We need living options. We need places that average people can live, poor people can live.. Raising wages just continually makes things worse because our country says "it Has to increase things" So it does nothing but make things worse. We need places people can live even if they make below average $ (look at all the rent prices right now? The same goes for the rent of local small businesses too. It's absurd. I know this because my mom runs a local small business in Oregon. So that's 2 insane rents to pay per month! It's the biggest challenge to afford rent. Profit isn't even a thing. Its can we make it to next month? How stupid is that? What kind of quality of life is that?) This is Modern Day America 👍🏻 and when you look at our government, it doesn't seem like anything is going to be addressed or improved anytime soon.. Maybe multiple generations from now, idk? All i know is vast change needs to be done. I'm tired of either side of our government. None of it is working. Hopefully motivated people will come in & help adapt this amazing country so it doesn't collapse in on itself. I don't get how our current situation can be acceptable?

  • @daltonsnow5855

    @daltonsnow5855

    2 ай бұрын

    It's just as bad in europe, brotha, lemme tell ya.

  • @alyssahamlett

    @alyssahamlett

    2 ай бұрын

    I couldn't agree more, Anybody? I know that talks about getting into the military. I always try to talk them out of it. The world we live in today is not worth giving your life for they're just using people as pawns. In arridiculous game to line their pockets. There is no such thing as Justice.

  • @tlcetc4506

    @tlcetc4506

    2 ай бұрын

    Even worse, sometimes its not even for money or personal gain (directly anyway) but just the meeting of equally depraved minds, cowardice, commradare, etc

  • @that.ll_do_pig

    @that.ll_do_pig

    2 ай бұрын

    "Become"? _When_ was it anything else?

  • @jonalynbaldoza5508
    @jonalynbaldoza55082 ай бұрын

    The parents should also be jailed.

  • @rashigoyal6434
    @rashigoyal64342 ай бұрын

    How can you justify self defence when one person is completely unharmed and the other is beaten to death 😮

  • @tinasnewzealand
    @tinasnewzealand2 ай бұрын

    I was in a relationship..it was great..we did so many things together I fell pregnant and the father of our son acted like he was going to be the greatest Dad on the face of the Earth Things changed the moment I brought our son home from the hospital...After 4 months he became manipulative then abusive..when he threw his first punch...he walked out to cool down I walked straight out of that relationship that day No ifs buts maybes I was gone I haven't had parents as they passed away in my early years of 13 and 15yrs respectively I had no family as they had passed or lived overseas except my sister who was living in a different city and had a job that called her up all hours of the night ..I was not going to put any strain on her However I left and went to a motel until I moved into a new house and restarted my life.. I had no contact orders and the father did not know where my self and my son was.. No way in this world would I put up with the tiniest bit of abuse I can't STRESS enough..leave these fools and don't look back Aroha nui from Aotearoa New Zealand ❤️

  • @tlcetc4506

    @tlcetc4506

    2 ай бұрын

    Think of how that might have gone if you had to go through the family courts who state things like "well we don't know what she has been doing to him" and the abuser finds a new legally sanctioned way to abuse you through that court system and filing motions, manufacturing evidence through emails referring to things that never happened (or they twist in their practically supernatural ability to manipulate), using your child on top of that and forcing you to still have them in contact and in your life....this has been happening for decades and their are attorneys and other professionals (who get forced paying clients) who know and utilize this game well, especially with completely trumped up parental alienation claims all while they are the ones actually committing that and more.

  • @tinasnewzealand

    @tinasnewzealand

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tlcetc4506 I thank God that our court system is not run like that in the USA He had his chance He missed out on a fantastic son who is now 28 years old I've asked him over the years if he wanted to get to know his Dad but as time progresses he heard about the women that followed..were abused nastily by his father...Nothing I said that's not my place..my only comment was we were not right for each other and to answer him truthfully if anything comes up now he is in his adult years Funnily enough my son has never wanted to interact with his father I see a lot of your Family court programmes..however because I think your courts are dealing with so many cases..they get a dam lit wrong Children that should be with their Fathers and vice versa are ignored...People with a lot of money can usually bias the judge as they think the child will be better off...are you kidding me. And the money you have to pay for a good lawyer is ridiculous in the US...God Bless anybody who has to go through your Family Court

  • @xxxxbuttxxdragon

    @xxxxbuttxxdragon

    Ай бұрын

    Good job 😢❤❤❤❤ stay strong ❤❤❤ you did what you have to.

  • @mistymountainhopper

    @mistymountainhopper

    Ай бұрын

    I didn't even know it was abuse cos it wasn't as bad as what I grew up with. Good for you to get away the first time but we're not all so lucky or confident to do so

  • @Ingaforagingandgrowing

    @Ingaforagingandgrowing

    Ай бұрын

    Kia ora, good on you dear, sending lots of love from Chch🌻💚🌼

  • @sincitysinnermike
    @sincitysinnermike2 ай бұрын

    His parents are the epitome of enablers.

  • @rebeccamc2686
    @rebeccamc26862 ай бұрын

    Michelles end point is so true about somebody not needing to be physical to be abusive. I was in a 3 year relationship, emotionally and mentally manipulated until I had had enough. I ended the relationship and 3 days later, when returning home from visiting family in the evening(I was living in another city studying at university) when I got out of the taxi there he was, he pulled me to the floor and started kicking me all over. Thankfully the most he had inflicted was a broken jaw, it could have been so much worse. I then received a message a couple of hours later from HIS SISTER no less, apologising on his behalf and how “he didn’t mean to kick me in the face” followed up by a message from him of how much he loved me and reiterating “I wasn’t meant to hit u in the face, I was meant to only get your chest & stomach” ….

  • @CameronElyseStarlol

    @CameronElyseStarlol

    2 ай бұрын

    the "..." is cinematic bc was that text meant to make you feel better?

  • @sarahholland2600

    @sarahholland2600

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@CameronElyseStarlolCinematic? Wrong word. She's using speech marks because shes quoting someone else.

  • @RepentAndBelieve43

    @RepentAndBelieve43

    2 ай бұрын

    🙏🏽

  • @mariahalbannawi8968

    @mariahalbannawi8968

    2 ай бұрын

    She is abuse enabler shame on them may Allah protect you

  • @hyuncloudd_

    @hyuncloudd_

    Ай бұрын

    What? Oh so it’s okay because he “accidentally” hit you in the face. I would sue his but and sisters for assault and milk him for everything he’s got.

  • @denisenoles3159
    @denisenoles31592 ай бұрын

    I love my son more than anything, but if he ever did some shit like this, he knows not to ever call me again.

  • @winged500
    @winged5002 ай бұрын

    My first husband used his fist and when I called 911 his cousin the police officer came and threatened me with jail, but told my ex-husband that if he ever wanted to get rid of me to let him know because he knew where they could hide my body and nobody would find it.

  • @joanodom2104

    @joanodom2104

    2 ай бұрын

    I completely believe this.

  • @winged500

    @winged500

    2 ай бұрын

    @joanodom2104 Why would I make this up? What would I get out of it? He worked for the Joplin Missouri Police Department if you don't believe me. Last that I heard he was in charge of giving polygraphs.

  • @hkfiorill

    @hkfiorill

    2 ай бұрын

    @@winged500I believe you. I hope you are far away from this person. Continue to tell your truth. It is your story!! Light and love from me to you. 💜💜💜🙏🏼

  • @gracelou91

    @gracelou91

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@winged500I don't think they meant you were making it up just more or so that the people that are supposed to protect the vulnerable (basically their job) the most are corrupt so it's believable that the police system is like that. There are so many let downs within the police department, children's protection services it's hard to know where to go when the people that are supposed to help, don't❤

  • @xxxxbuttxxdragon

    @xxxxbuttxxdragon

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@winged500that person said, they believe you. I also do to. That could happen.

  • @smokejc
    @smokejc2 ай бұрын

    how the hell does he beat someone to a pulp and get a slap on the wrist

  • @jaysmith179

    @jaysmith179

    2 ай бұрын

    Sad the Liberal Democrat judges and D A s are letting these folks out of jail. Just like what happened to the collage girl in Georgia.

  • @tinkapookie

    @tinkapookie

    2 ай бұрын

    Parents are wealthy

  • @missmicheleeexo2269

    @missmicheleeexo2269

    Ай бұрын

    Money. That's how.

  • @sabrinatscha2554
    @sabrinatscha25542 ай бұрын

    Seeing the footage of him right after he assaulted Michelle, with his shirt soaked in red… who tf could possibly believe that was self defense?

  • @laureenjewett3828
    @laureenjewett38282 ай бұрын

    His parents are the reason he's a psychopath

  • @captainbaekho
    @captainbaekho2 ай бұрын

    i feel terrible for michelle... she tried so hard to save kay but everyone failed these women and one even lost her life for it.

  • @yup_its_ME.512

    @yup_its_ME.512

    2 ай бұрын

    that "man" failed them!

  • @kingjoseph5901

    @kingjoseph5901

    2 ай бұрын

    They also failed themselves

  • @zabustifu

    @zabustifu

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kingjoseph5901 Ah, I was worried there'd be no victim blamer in here. There you are.

  • @moimoi2994

    @moimoi2994

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@zabustifu I don't think it's blaming the victim....it's facts! She was warned with proof but ignore it.

  • @zabustifu

    @zabustifu

    2 ай бұрын

    @@moimoi2994 Yeah. She made a bad choice or two. She's still a victim. It's still victim blaming.

  • @boardwalkbw7130
    @boardwalkbw71302 ай бұрын

    Our system is so corrupt

  • @KatieKillsjoy
    @KatieKillsjoyАй бұрын

    Idc how high the bond is, you shouldn’t be able to buy your way out of attempted murder

  • @Maruchanmeyer12
    @Maruchanmeyer122 ай бұрын

    How could the caller be so damn calm? Damn.

  • @basmataher905

    @basmataher905

    2 ай бұрын

    Ikr!!

  • @maker0824

    @maker0824

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s how I’d be. I’d be too scared to act any other way

  • @SirHumphrey498

    @SirHumphrey498

    2 ай бұрын

    would you like her screaming and not be able to give precise information to the dispatcher i dont get what you are saying

  • @CandyCoated7779

    @CandyCoated7779

    2 ай бұрын

    @Maruchanmeyer12 the way they are calm is the best way so they can get all the info and hear you clearly . people who are loud and freaking out crying and yelling it makes it way to difficult for disbatch . being calm dont make someone always guilty of anything or anything wrong with it.

  • @aromaladyellie

    @aromaladyellie

    2 ай бұрын

    Shock?

  • @eternity7477
    @eternity74772 ай бұрын

    The rich parents should be held responsible too. The fact that they were prepared to hire very expensive lawyers the SECOND time, is sickening.

  • @missmicheleeexo2269

    @missmicheleeexo2269

    Ай бұрын

    If he was manipulating his friends and partners, what makes you think he wasn't manipulating his parents as well? Plus that's their child so there's probably some denial going on. But he probably has his parents fooled just the same as he did everyone else.

  • @Katlego.Makinita
    @Katlego.Makinita2 ай бұрын

    Rich peoples kids 🤢🤮 who bails someone for attempted murder ?

  • @CBrown86
    @CBrown862 ай бұрын

    He almost murked someone and was out 2 months after the trial??? WTFFFF

  • @brendatodd5288
    @brendatodd52882 ай бұрын

    This is so sad, that not just the parents bailing him out. But that money plays a big part in putting an abuser behind bars. Until they actually commit murder.😢

  • @tlcetc4506

    @tlcetc4506

    2 ай бұрын

    I would almost bet that from what I have seen with the attorneys and judges in family court, it wasn't the money factor alone, but connected to having involvement with that side of the system at the same time

  • @kingjoseph5901

    @kingjoseph5901

    2 ай бұрын

    Rich people suck

  • @tlcetc4506

    @tlcetc4506

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kingjoseph5901 many perhaps, especially the political and celebrity type, but not all and we shouldn't treat it that way because this is the type of division they want and encourage in order to divide and manipulate us. (Just what was used in China, now here they have many other ways to add in and have even invented new ones).

  • @helpis0ntheway
    @helpis0ntheway2 ай бұрын

    There must to be stricter laws helping DA victims as the abuser gets away 95% of the time ends up killing another later on. It's insane there's nothing to protect these women by now. *Edit: It shouldn't have taken ending a life to put the abuser behind bars*

  • @esctruecrime

    @esctruecrime

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely agree. The current system fails to protect domestic abuse victims adequately. Stricter laws and better support mechanisms are crucial to prevent further tragedies. It shouldn't take a life lost for action to be taken against abusers.

  • @Trailblazer162
    @Trailblazer1622 ай бұрын

    Just shows how corrupt, ignorant, and greedy out justice system is. This woman survived an attempted murder and they let the guy go and when he does it again and finally gets convinced, they still won't give her full custody of the child....are you f'n kidding me.

  • @needsmorecowbell1758
    @needsmorecowbell17582 ай бұрын

    “This is Florida…and you’re going to prison for the rest of your life”--I felt SO MUCH relief when I heard the judge say that. As if it was an uppercut punch, but in justice. That did something. That affected the rest of his life.

  • @micadean1600

    @micadean1600

    Ай бұрын

    This is FLORIDA, where Casey Anthony & George Zimmerman walk free after a murder 😂😂😂

  • @moe3741
    @moe3741Ай бұрын

    I went through one relationship of verbal abuse until he threw a cupboard door to my head. That's when I said this is it, he's going to kill me. Our basement neighbors called the police and they saved my life. I hid for 3 years so he couldn't find me. It was the scariest time of my life.

  • @Real.deadly.666
    @Real.deadly.66622 күн бұрын

    When kerri said "i miss my sister" hit me so hard. Ive said that same exact thing with the same pain so many times i cant even count. My big sister was murdered by her boyfriend when she was only 17. I despise weak men that feel they have the right to take a womans life because they cant regulate their childish emotions.

  • @chishimauchiha3292
    @chishimauchiha32922 ай бұрын

    It's as the saying goes, protect the rich and guilty and arrest the poor and innocent

  • @coffeewine7087
    @coffeewine70872 ай бұрын

    Wait there's still a custody battle after all what the sick sob did to michelle? They (criminal dad and his sick family) shouldn't have the right to see her kid.

  • @sorayae84
    @sorayae842 ай бұрын

    Narcissists don't have empathy as they are always the victim.

  • @itwasntriggedyourejustaloser73
    @itwasntriggedyourejustaloser73Ай бұрын

    What is wrong with this country that a mother has to fight for custody with a man in jail for murder 😡🤬😡🤬

  • @jaysea802
    @jaysea8022 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this coverage and powerful testimony to realities of DV. As a survivor, it was hard to get through this. Yet also, as a survivor, it made me feel less alone: particularly when it comes to not being believed, and the link between verbal, mental, emotional abuse leading to physical abuse. To all other survivors: I am proud of you. Whether you’ve won your freedom or are desperately trying to or are just realizing the reality, I’m proud of you. To those just starting to realize their reality and questioning themselves: denial is the first part of escaping. Please don’t let that stage last long - watch videos like these which speak to your experience, research signs of abuse, and build yourself a support system because even if it’s small, it’s a lifeline. Find at least one place you can run to immediately when you are in fear, danger, or being abused in any way. I had my things intentionally placed so that when I had to run out the door with no time for even looking for my purse, I could grab them on my way running out the door. I also kept spare clothes and such in my car, if you have that luxury. ❤

  • @laureenjewett3828
    @laureenjewett38282 ай бұрын

    I hope these girls sue the crap out of his parents

  • @TheonlyA.P
    @TheonlyA.P2 ай бұрын

    I was a victim of abuse with 3 of 3 of my exs and when I tell you each time was no different from the first , second and 3rd time. AND yes for all of you thinking how could I have possibly fall for it each time and why I didn’t leave sooner. I was vulnerable each time and they made me believe I was never going to find anyone that would love me for me and once you’re in so deep it’s so hard to get out. Yes the signs were there and I stayed each time thinking I could change them. Prior to all of them the woman they were with before were also assaulted and love truly can blind you and I’m terribly sorry for what each and every woman that this Matthew had put them through. Michelle Rodger’s , (also my name) Kay , Jessica and whoever else has came across this inhumane human I’m so happy for the justice but deeply saddened that money will take the system towards injustice

  • @anntares172

    @anntares172

    2 ай бұрын

    I completely understand. 2 back to back also.

  • @ThatMontanaMom

    @ThatMontanaMom

    2 ай бұрын

    I am glad you go out. After I got away from my physically/mentally abusive ex, I finally got the time to reflect on what had led me down that path. I know it started in childhood, with a narcissistic father who wanted sons and not the daughters he got. Raised being told I was stupid and lazy and generally being made to feel like an unwanted burden. Moving on into trying to please others, sacrificing all my own needs or desires to make sure others we "happy". Never realizing this is how you trained yourself to become an abusers target. Every relationship was worse than the previous, until I was with a man who made the others almost look like saints with his level of lying, manipulation, and violence. After I got out and moved two states away I started researching and learned terms like love bombing, hoovering, and cognitive dissonance. I learned that boundaries are things you NEED to put in place and NEVER COMPROMISE because boundaries are the fortress around your heart that keep the predatory animals from tearing it to shreds. I finally began to accept that I had far more to offer, that I WAS worthy of the respect I so easily gave away and that respect had to first be given to MYSELF before I gave it away to a potential partner based solely on the words they spoke that I wanted to believe. So many people seem to think they can treat intimate partners with contempt, disrespect, dismissivness, and devaluation. Like they believe people's hearts are disposable. Not to mention their time and efforts. It hurts my heart to see this and know it could be different if people chose to deal with their issues, not look to others to fix everything. Please stay safe. You are worth keeping well. 💜

  • @-xxMelissaxx-

    @-xxMelissaxx-

    2 ай бұрын

    It's often a subconscious pattern of people we are attracted to and it takes a lot of work to break the cycle. It's hard but it is indeed possible.

  • @lesliebean4594

    @lesliebean4594

    2 ай бұрын

    I understand completely. Been there more than once myself. We are attracted to what’s familiar. And, almost all abusers start out pretending to be Mr. Right.

  • @ktmualem

    @ktmualem

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow, I'm really sorry you went through that. Have you gone to therapy? If not, please go so you can figure out how to break the cycle. I hope this does not come out the wrong way but it isn't normal to have 3 out of 3 abusive relationships. That's not a coincidence, that is a pattern. I hope you find whatever it is you have internalized that doesn't allow you to be in healthy relationships. You deserve to be happy and to have a healthy relationship with a significant other. I'm glad you had the strengh to walk away from your previous exes. I wish you the best. Good luck.

  • @angelagreen3642
    @angelagreen36422 ай бұрын

    I don't understand why they give bail to jerks who have highly significant and incriminating evidence that they have attempted murder and are violent.

  • @RizziCGaming
    @RizziCGamingАй бұрын

    I’ve dated a manipulative person before. He didn’t hurt me physically but he did what a manipulative abuser does best-they will gaslight you then they’ll love bomb you. After all of that, their abuse will cool down for a couple of weeks or months, then when they feel like you’ve relaxed enough, they’ll hurt you once again. It’s a never ending cycle. It’ll go on like that until you’ll finally snap out of it. Sad thing is, it’s too late for some victims because they’d be dead before they snap out of their situation. It gives a totally different definition to “love is blind”.

  • @ThePreachersDaughter559
    @ThePreachersDaughter5592 ай бұрын

    “This is Florida, you’re going to prison for the rest of your life.”

  • @Daisy-hi4sg
    @Daisy-hi4sg2 ай бұрын

    Those "parents" are pathetic

  • @sldj15
    @sldj152 ай бұрын

    I absolutely hate our current judicial system. No justice for victims.

  • @samanthabusch750
    @samanthabusch7502 ай бұрын

    HOW CAN SHE STILL BE FIGHTING FOR FULL PARENTAL RIGHTS THATS CRAZY so glad that F****R is where he is

  • @Tinasburrito666
    @Tinasburrito6662 ай бұрын

    He never should have been able to have bail. Two tiered justice at its finest

  • @summxo777
    @summxo777Ай бұрын

    If a woman messages me with graphic photos warning me about a man you better believe I’m not going near said man 😅 that’s insane

  • @heatherbowlan1961
    @heatherbowlan19612 ай бұрын

    What a narcissist,kocky , the way he holds his head makes me sick ! He thinks he is something!

  • @ruqayyahqadri8180
    @ruqayyahqadri81802 ай бұрын

    Michelle is incredible, going through those terrible experiences twice. She is an inspiration.

  • @lorigustin3613
    @lorigustin3613Ай бұрын

    His enabling rich parents should NEVER have access to the grandchildren. Shame on them, they are complicit in the murder.

  • @usmale49
    @usmale492 ай бұрын

    Unbelievable, to say the least! This "MONSTER" should have been kept in PRISON for the rest of his natural life to begin with. Pictures of that monstrosity made me stomach turn. Can't believe that Michigan did not do it's legal and civil duty! Shame on MICHIGAN!! And it's so sad that it took an actual loss of life to put this heathen away for life! Thank you for uploading this horrific story and sharing!! EDIT: He looks very much like actor Michael Douglas in the movie: "FALLING DOWN'!!

  • @jimhenderson387
    @jimhenderson387Ай бұрын

    The smugness of this guy is infuriating! He might be the worst human alive, though im sure there is a lot of competition.

  • @pippa3150
    @pippa3150Ай бұрын

    How is it no one believed that poor girl when there were actual witnesses? She is amazing.

  • @TAGMZs63
    @TAGMZs632 ай бұрын

    People who have an explosive temper are so dangerous, despite any other good qualities they may have. Stay away!

  • @DaBaltimoron
    @DaBaltimoron2 ай бұрын

    This jumps around too much chronologically.

  • @La_Ru-yg8es
    @La_Ru-yg8es2 ай бұрын

    Michelle 🙏🏻🙏🏻 May the rest of her life be filled with joy and peace. You are that rare breed: brave, selfless, and compassionate.

  • @SKISAY
    @SKISAYАй бұрын

    There was definitely a MOLE jury in the first trial….

  • @light5978
    @light597812 күн бұрын

    Money comes first than lives. What a rotten place

  • @oxenrat
    @oxenrat2 ай бұрын

    When a parole board gets it wrong, the people on that board should be held to account. They failed to make sure that anyone is safe therefore they should pay.

  • @Hayhayw
    @Hayhayw2 ай бұрын

    I can’t believe he got away with attempted murder! And a poor lady had to die for him to go to prison what is wrong with the system !! X

  • @Justintime619
    @Justintime6192 ай бұрын

    Anyone who looks up someone in prison who’s there for violently assaulting another woman needs to look at their lives….people tell you xxEXACTLY who they are…. Some people choose to ignore it.

  • @mackenzielawver4457

    @mackenzielawver4457

    27 күн бұрын

    All about money

  • @cdcdogs4961
    @cdcdogs4961Ай бұрын

    Michelle, you are a HERO to so many people, especially for your children. THANK YOU for your courage! 🙌🏼💪🏼❤️

  • @ChristineChasty-tx9ys
    @ChristineChasty-tx9ys2 ай бұрын

    We need to start teaching this in schools. It has to stop❤

  • @huggychu6784
    @huggychu67842 ай бұрын

    Shivers down my spine……NOT EVEN IN A MINUTE-😓

  • @QuinSteph
    @QuinSteph2 ай бұрын

    It's not domestic violence it's domestic abuse because you don't have to physically touch someone to abuse them.

  • @esctruecrime

    @esctruecrime

    2 ай бұрын

    You're absolutely correct. Domestic abuse encompasses a wide range of behaviors beyond physical violence, including emotional, psychological, and financial abuse. It's crucial to recognize and address all forms of abuse within relationships.

  • @QuinSteph

    @QuinSteph

    2 ай бұрын

    @@esctruecrime thank you the sooner we get away from the belief that abuse is just physical the better. As it will only help more victims sooner so they ask for and receive help in a non violent situation or before a situation becomes violent.

  • @ezfree.z651
    @ezfree.z6512 ай бұрын

    911 operators: *where* is the location of your emergency? person calling: gives every bit of information about the situation _aside from_ where it’s happening at. the first thing out of your mouth should always be *WHERE* you’re at so the operator can send someone your way _while_ you’re explaining the problem.

  • @sunshine3914

    @sunshine3914

    2 ай бұрын

    Usually the first thing asked is “What is your emergency?”.

  • @kazu_thorn

    @kazu_thorn

    2 ай бұрын

    They can access your location through your phone. What they don't know is the kind of emergency you or someone is in

  • @castlebrookkennels8549

    @castlebrookkennels8549

    2 ай бұрын

    Not if your location services are switched off, which many people do to keep privacy from ads, google etc ​@@kazu_thorn

  • @Jess-vk6mp
    @Jess-vk6mp2 ай бұрын

    I was in an abusive relationship with a manipulator, that fucked with my head, that isolated me from my friends and family, controlled who I spoke to, what I wore, what I did, stole money from me and made me feel like I was the crazy one for being mad about it, and so many other things. Not once did he ever hit me. But I knew back then, it would most likely escalate to that when I didn’t want to bend to his will any longer. I broke up with him, and kicked him out and it was like the weight of the world off my shoulders, and I cried from happiness and relief it was finally over for days. I hope other people in abusive situations can feel that same level of relief and leave these horrible people before things escalate. If you’re someone in a situation like that, don’t let anything they say hold you back. You are worthy of love, happiness, and to be with someone who doesn’t treat you like that. I didn’t believe that for the longest time and that’s why I stayed in that relationshit for years. And now I’m married to a wonderful man who is my best friend, and would never treat me like that. It can get better!!

  • @skatardrummer1
    @skatardrummer125 күн бұрын

    As a Michigan resident and DV survivor, Michigan could do a better job in some places. I waited 2 weeks out of fear to report that my ex husband threatened my life. The first office mocked me and said if that was true, I wouldn't have waited so long. The second said that I couldn't just file a report in case something happened, that the DA would take over and press charges. I was scared away from ever filing that report. He was arrested after threatening his second wife, and he was released. I'm kind of ashamed of the accountability my state holds abusers to. And they never get enough of a punishment to keep them from hurting someone until they kill someone, and sometimes not even then. Abuse can take many forms, and it didn't click for me until he threatened to kill me. He never "hit" me. He grabbed my wrists, he threw objects "not at me," he beat dents into appliances, holes in walls. All it does is get worse.

  • @louisaklimentos7583
    @louisaklimentos7583Ай бұрын

    If you are rich then you get a slap on the wrist . So he murdered the next victim and this wouldn’t of happened if he was sent to jail in the first place . This is disgusting !!!

  • @PaperMario64
    @PaperMario642 ай бұрын

    He’s a narcissist. They escalate because they usually get away with what they do by using lies and charm. Like she said, many women will fail to recognize the man is abusive because they haven’t hit them YET. But being manipulated, being controlled with money, being trapped in a relationship by way of isolation or pregnancy are all forms of violence.

  • @jahempress26
    @jahempress262 ай бұрын

    I love how the judge say this is Florida

  • @hw5716
    @hw57162 ай бұрын

    What an absolute monster! Anyone who was on his side is also a monster!

  • @kingjoseph5901

    @kingjoseph5901

    2 ай бұрын

    Rich people are usually like this

  • @LilTdog556
    @LilTdog5562 ай бұрын

    I Didn't expect the parents to bail him out ngl

  • @suicidecereal
    @suicidecereal2 ай бұрын

    This hit close to home.. i was attacked and almost killed by my ex. He got a new girl 2 days after i left him and filed charges. He was convicted, no jail time. He never hit me before. Until he just attacked and tried to end me. His new girlfriend is still with him, even though hes a felon now. I hope every day nothing happens to her. It only takes once. You think itll never be you, until it is you.

  • @sb_official_27
    @sb_official_272 ай бұрын

    This man is disgusting. Michelle is such a fighter and strong woman. She must be such a great mother to her kids. Holy cr@p!

  • @starirose
    @starirose17 күн бұрын

    This made me so emotional. Michelle’s testimony was so moving. What a brave woman. Rest easy Kay, you didn’t deserve this 😢

  • @chrisprescott2273
    @chrisprescott22732 ай бұрын

    How in the world did the jury in Michelle's case conclude that it was self defense? I can't wrap my head around that

  • @kazu_thorn
    @kazu_thorn2 ай бұрын

    How do you win a self defense case when the witness watches as he beats her and screaming for help

  • @Kristine_202
    @Kristine_2022 ай бұрын

    Have you ever just looked at someone and thought, "I don't like him?" And I'm not saying that you should judge by appearances, but you just get a bad vibe? That's how I feel about this loser. He was exudes arrogance. I don't like looking at his face. He gives me the creeps.

  • @truthfulbeauty6491
    @truthfulbeauty6491Ай бұрын

    What a absolute monster 👹 he is a demon and I hope he rots in prison. Sending love and healing for these ladies family, children and friends ❤❤❤

  • @jimmyavpi
    @jimmyavpi2 ай бұрын

    If Kay had listened to Michelle and not dismissed her photographs, perhaps she would still be alive today. When you see photographs like that and you have children, you put the children first. You get rid of the man for the safety of your children.

  • @IlyaByk83
    @IlyaByk832 ай бұрын

    She doesn't have a full parental right after all of this... ouch... Great Story Brought by Unseen Team..

  • @lolopie3333
    @lolopie33332 ай бұрын

    The part at the end that she's still fighting for full parental rights.... what the fuck

  • @Guilty_Crown
    @Guilty_Crown2 ай бұрын

    His parents should share the same jail cell and time as they were more or less co-approved his behavior and crime

  • @Nique25
    @Nique25Ай бұрын

    I just started this, but let's shout out the lady that called the cops on that abusive jackass. I've been around men that have witnessed arguments (that could've gotten handsy in my opinion) and said, "it's not my business". That's a fucked up mentality to me

  • @mauimeowi
    @mauimeowi2 ай бұрын

    Justice shouldn't be bought.

  • @ashleemclean7929
    @ashleemclean79292 ай бұрын

    I grew up in a violent household and omg this was was a hard one to watch. A see a lot of the same jealousy and manipulation in my father.. RIP Kay

  • @gamtngirl3655
    @gamtngirl36552 ай бұрын

    Unseen never disappoints, never fails to deliver. I look forward to each episode.

  • @cindersblock
    @cindersblock2 ай бұрын

    Shivers in the first 30 seconds

  • @The_Darkest1
    @The_Darkest12 ай бұрын

    Kay's sister looks exactly like her 😢 I'm so sad that no one listened to Michelle. And like she said, someone had to die to get people to believe that he should be put away for good.

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds85812 ай бұрын

    Side note: It is PSYCHOTIC how Jealous certain people can be! It's such a toxic emotion when out of control & unhinged. Mix in someone with violent tendencies & u got yourself a recipe for disaster. I've personally experienced a hint of this behavior from a past girlfriend that I really cared for. It's a really tricky & lonely situation to find yourself in..

  • @Jay...edits.
    @Jay...edits.2 ай бұрын

    People are so evil

  • @energeticpink
    @energeticpinkАй бұрын

    His parents bailing him out is a good sign that his bad actions were probably never punished.

  • @heather-cz8yk
    @heather-cz8yk2 ай бұрын

    Thank you Prosecutor Diaz and Michelle for doing whatever she could to prevent Kay Baker's death. Matthew Terry's parents should have problems sleeping with all the money they spent in defending their sicko son. There is no way they did not see signs of Matthew's unhealthy personality and attitudes regarding women. Matthew Terry's father, Mark Terry. He said he loved his son. When asked by Hillsborough public defender Jamie Kane if his relationship with his son will continue if he's sentenced to life in prison, Mr. Terry responded positively. "We do all we can do. We're here. We're still his parents. We're still good friends actually," he explained. That followed Terry's mother, Kathi Terry, who wiped tears as she urged the jury to have mercy. "I can't imagine any mother any parent wanting their child to die. You just can't stop loving him. And I will always. I cannot love him anymore," sobbed Terry. Thy created the weak, pathetic son , possibly by spoiling him. Often it is learned behaviour witnessing the parents' relationship and domination of the father over the mother.

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