“you either die a hero or see yourself become a villain” Somehow, Doc Oc did both

@TonyTylerDraws

Жыл бұрын

And then lived as a hero, too!

@awuuwa

Жыл бұрын

So did Darth Vader at the end of the last movie. We don't talk about the sequels

@jnnx

Жыл бұрын

@@awuuwa or the prequels.

@jinsakai2047

Жыл бұрын

​@@jnnxrevenge of the sith is an exception

@dominikocaginavanua4787

Жыл бұрын

ooph thats a great point, to see yourself fall but redeem yourself in the end...Molina played that part well, when he came to that realization before his sacrifice

I love that in the first two movies, Spider man’s villains were people like him with more money and experience and intelligence, men that Peter looked up to, granted great power who could not take responsibility like Peter. Really demonstrates how special Peter is in his world

@monkeydude9192

Жыл бұрын

Not sure how much of it is "not taking responsibility" as much as allowing ambition to cloud their judgement to disastrous results

@AqibA.C.

Жыл бұрын

@@monkeydude9192 Well I think they're one in the same at a certain point. Remember the first part of the line is "With great power..." so money, experience and intelligence are also of great power and to be used wisely. Ambition is only a small part of guiding that responsibility.

@monkeydude9192

Жыл бұрын

@@AqibA.C. Well "not taking responsibility" implies that Norman and Octavius refused to admit any wrong doing, and that they're fully in control of their minds and actions, but the fact of the matter is that both are corrupted by their experiments. We even see moments of that remains of their humanity grappling with their respective corrupting influences, essentially "taking responsibility". Octavius even manages to momentarily overcome the corrupting influence of the tentacles long enough to control them and save the day.

@RickFoxChicken

Жыл бұрын

I'm something of a scientist myself

@Whiteythereaper

Жыл бұрын

The responsibility is by not letting ego take the forefront. Norman rushed the Goblin Serum into production which ensured his downfall, while Otto foolishly believed that his math was perfect and relied on his work alone to make his project a success. Both of them had gifts, but wanted to be at the forefront of their successes, publicly. Peter, meanwhile, hides his identity which keeps him separate from his success. He becomes a faceless saviour that can only have credit put on his hero identity. His responsibility is to save people with his power while not going too far as to exert his will over people and become a pre-judging vigilante, to not change the world.

I was the perfect age when Spider-Man 1 and 2 came out. I'm so happy they were part of my childhood. I'll always be able to go back and re-watch them and basically feel like a kid again.

@isaiahvoss

Жыл бұрын

I was only 4 when Spider-Man 3 came out.

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Like coming home, every time.

@smithsmithy7149

Жыл бұрын

@@CinemaStix You get it. 😉

@dvdtv1234

Жыл бұрын

How old I was 6 then 8

@rhinuu045

Жыл бұрын

i was born when sm3 came out and i grew up on the first and third movies but never the 2nd sadly. it ended up as the best one imo

"Driven by science, bound by love" holy shit dude this line is amazing, well done

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Hehe, thank you.

When he says "Otto Octavius ends up with 8 limbs, what are the odds." is so damn funny, I don't think any other actor could've delivered that so perfectly.

@BS-vx8dg

Жыл бұрын

Funniest line in any Spiderman movie. But I'm amazed how many people didn't see it that way. I've talked to people who said, "Yeah, that really *was* quite a coincidence, eh?"

@iantophernicus6042

Жыл бұрын

Because I've watched the Cinemawins episode so much, whenever I see this scene I I stinctively hear Lee say '1 in 8?'

@fionam7768

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, for me HE is the key to the success of Spider-Man: that character is so cartoonish, getting it right was always going to be vital because it is equally indispensable. Vital *and* indispensable?? Only one name, if two initials ....

@nw4042

6 ай бұрын

Never tell me the odds!

The unsung hero that I really wish you'd mentioned is the sound design of the mechanical arms. That metallic click-clacking is just so perfect and goes a massive way to giving them a feeling, texture and weight. It's brilliantly and consistently done throughout the film.

The real villain is Matt Lauer calling him an octopus

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, seriously.

@AdrianOkay

Жыл бұрын

When you're called Otto Octavius you're asking for it

@007Julie

Жыл бұрын

He had no idea what he was talking about!

@justus7650

Жыл бұрын

If he'd been interviewing Bill NIghy about Davy Jones he'd have been more accurate. And still wrong.

Somehow villains don't get enough recognition as the protagonists. We appreciate all of your effort and hard work.

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

:)

@frankiefadda

Жыл бұрын

I think the reason they don’t get much appreciation is because we’re watching their choices play out and it’s more satisfying to witness success than decline. They totally deserve the recognition but our inner monologue keeps us rooting for the person who makes the right choices in the times where the villains make the wrong decisions. Usually the lines are blurred to remind us that we all are capable of making the choices that either the protagonist or antagonist makes, therefore resembling the human experience :) gotta love good writing

@DarylBanttari

Жыл бұрын

The best, most memorable movies aren't the ones with great protagonists, they're the ones with the great villains. Weak villains make for weak movies

@johnnyc.31

Жыл бұрын

That’s because they are not protagonists, but by definition they are the antagonists.

@vylbird8014

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyc.31 Usually. There are 'villain protagonist' stories, but usually it's done for comedy. And lots of stories where a protagonist who would otherwise be the villain is made less villainous by contrast with another character who takes the antagonist role - as used in every heist movie. It's fine for your protagonist to be a criminal, a thief, even commit a few murders - so long as it's made clear that their victims are all much, much more villainous. That way any immortal acts may be forgiven, and the protagonist may comfortably take the hero role. A Clockwork Orange is a good example. The protagonist is by no means a hero: He's a criminal, repeat thief, and eventually a murderer. He's the villain, and he loves the role: He /lives/ for the thrill of being bad. And unlike most such villain stories, there's no redemption at the end: He is every bit the evil bastard at the conclusion as he was at the start, and all the more so because he convinces others that he is 'cured.' But even though he is by no means a remotely good person, he still gets to be the protagonist of the story - and he even gets to take the sympathetic role by showing how a heartless, self-serving government seeks to exploit him.

I did NOT know that last descent in to water scene was all CG. It looked real, and part of that was I wasn't _looking_ for the CG. It was so passable, I just believed it. That tells me they succeeded.

@VitorAugustoVTR

Жыл бұрын

Something we don't see nowdays at all...

@RaptorJesus

Жыл бұрын

Oh good, I'm not the only person who thought they just did an underwater shot.

@Mlai00

Жыл бұрын

It's because how water exerts pressure on human flesh, can distort perspective, and how he's supposed to be dead, that his face can look slightly off and we still feel it's real.

@RaptorJesus

Жыл бұрын

@@Mlai00 ...this is an excellent explanation.

@jackyyk6371

Ай бұрын

I was fuckin today years old.

Those robot arms are some of the best puppeteering I've seen to date. Their movements are so fluid and "alive". Miles better than early 2000s CGI could possibly have looked

I’ve been playing games and watching movies with visual effects since I was a toddler in the late 90’s. I’ve always had an eye for what’s in-camera and what’s cg, and I never once thought that shot of him in the water wasn’t real. Incredible work

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

I’m right there with you. Even by today’s standards, when it’s easier than ever to identify those shots in a movie like this, that one’s top notch. There was a lot more I wanted to say about how they achieved it, but I ran out of time :(

@DHBWMannheim-ve3wf

Жыл бұрын

@@CinemaStix can‘t you make a follow-up video for the ones that exceed 10 minutes? :( I love your work, rushed through your whole channel in a single day as soon as i discovered it :D

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

That’s amazing, I’m so grateful! Well, I’ve got two more videos planned just for this movie. So I might be able to put in some of the extra stuff from this video into one of those, if it feels like it’d fit.

@mak_attakks

Жыл бұрын

Same. The practicals were fantastic, but they definitely nailed the cg for those arms too. Some shots it's obviously cg, but there are many where I still can't tell the difference

@PeterSievers

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! It blew my mind when it was mentioned in this video. Thats amazing, considering it is nearly two decades old by now.

The difference between Otto's practical arms that required 16 puppeteers then and Otto's CGI arms now is truly palpable. Just another instance where although harder work, requiring more time and effort, practical blew CGI out of the water.

@tiahnarodriguez3809

Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way about Jurassic park vs Jurassic world. It was magical to see the behind the scenes regarding how the dinosaur puppets were created and how difficult it was to get them to work properly. Stuff like this makes you appreciate movies even more. I won’t completely knock cgi because the movies still sued a bit of it, but certain films have been relying a bit too much on it imo.

@user-nv2wt4hi8t

Жыл бұрын

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 Can't agree more. It's difficult to express because, like you say, CGI artists work damn hard, but knowing the time, effort and creativity that goes into the practical, it's like that enthusiasm and passion spills into your appreciation of the effect.

@nathonso_edits

Жыл бұрын

Not enough modern movies use practical effects for these kind of things anymore, the sequel trilogy of Star Wars (ignoring all its other flaws) fully embraced a lot of practical effects though that will stand the test of time

@secondchance6603

Жыл бұрын

Having watched this video and not ever looked into the making of the movie, I've learned that what I thought was CGI wasn't and what wasn't CGI was!

God I just love everything they did for Doc Ock. The puppets are incredible, Alfred is a wonderful presence and an excellent actor and the writing and effort put in make for a beautiful adaptation. I really wish they'd gone practical for No Way Home's tentacles as the visual downgrade in them is severely noticeable

@zooomthesquirrel3707

Жыл бұрын

I even found no way home (and the entire tomholland Spidey) camera work for Spidermen swinging , a downgrade. Made me appreciate the original movies more.

@filyp1984

Жыл бұрын

Alfred is massively underated as an actor. Two other amazing notes for him The man who knew too little. Maverick Those three movies are his best three

@zacharyrollick6169

Жыл бұрын

CGI is a wonderful tool that has unfortunately been used as a crutch.

@standandelivery

Жыл бұрын

​@@filyp1984 I always loved maverick and his role in it. It was iconic. Silly, really, for that role in an almost forgotten film, but he really brought him to life. Wonderful unsung actor.

@filyp1984

Жыл бұрын

@@standandelivery not forgotten in my family.

Great video! Also thanks for being fair to CGI because Raimi and the team clearly used it with artistic intent

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Oh for sure. It was that awkward adolescent phase for CG. But even just between this one and the first, it was a massive step up for the team.

@putty-e2872

Жыл бұрын

I think I disliked Spiderman 2 as a kid because I thought it has too many cartoony CGI movements. When I was a teen, I liked Spiderman 3 because of its emo Peter Parker & love story. I'm being honest here; I understood that nowadays we view Spiderman 2 as the best and Spiderman 3 as least good, but there's things to learn from children as they have a simpler perception.

@singhanmolpreet5935

Жыл бұрын

@@putty-e2872 i actually agree, although for me the defining characteristic of spiderman 3 was the venom (or as I called it back then, "black spiderman" lol). But I will say that spiderman 1 always held that special place in my heart, which made it the best for me.

Wow, great video. I had no idea the last scene with Doc was CGI.

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t either! Never would’ve even occurred to me. I mean to be honest I think they could’ve done that one practically if they really wanted to. But it definitely turned out right.

I think Spiderman 2 is the best comic book movie ever made. It had so much action, so much heart, and so much excitement. It was truly the best.

@DaryonGaming

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@Darkgnome

Жыл бұрын

I think it holds the 3rd. 1. Batman Dark knight 2. Ironman 3. Spiderman 2 4. Blade 5. Logan

@lvirag8401

Жыл бұрын

absolutely. easily the best. probably avengers in second, simply because it could have been so fukkin' awful, but wasn't. dark knight was okay. after that, who cares.

@sak1211

Жыл бұрын

@@Darkgnome Man Of Steel also bro.

@franciscopetrucci

Жыл бұрын

@@Darkgnome To me, at least that Top 3 is indisputable, in whatever order you want to put them in. My nº4 would be Watchmen, probably. Yes I like it more than the comic.

I love when horror directors make superhero movies

@zooomthesquirrel3707

Жыл бұрын

Reminded me of Aquaman

@hagestad

Жыл бұрын

@@zooomthesquirrel3707 That lady was a horror in real life though not in film ;)

@tydshiin5783

Жыл бұрын

Yea that fuckin scene at the hospital was pure horror movie

For me apart from Doc Ock, the train sequence makes the whole movie and makes the trilogy the best Spiderman movies for me. The world, the people react to Spiderman in a way that feels real much different from other movies.

@franciscopetrucci

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god yes! That scene is the real emotional peak of the movie! its done perfectly. That scene with the hands coming out of the cart to hold Peter is incredible.

PRACTICAL EFFECTS BEFORE CGI That's my motto

@RaptorJesus

Жыл бұрын

I generally agree. But I think both work best when combined. CG can make practical effects more impressive, either by covering up slight faults or adding things into them that just can't be done practically, while at the same time a practical effect can give CG the sense of weight, scale and so on without requiring guesses or estimates on the part of the actors and digital effects crew. They should never be seen as opposing forces, where one somehow limits or takes away from the other.

This was where No Way Home dropped the ball for me. Knowing they'd just gone "Eh, CGI is more advanced now, let's just make the arms completely CG" It just really robs something from Alfred's performance, and feels cheap.

@CabezasDePescado

Жыл бұрын

It sucked

@HishamA.N_Comicbroe

Жыл бұрын

@@CabezasDePescado If you mean them replacing the arms then yeah fs.. The movie, however, is pretty decent.

@stardom2671

Жыл бұрын

I mean I get it sort of because it probably would’ve been harder on Alfred Molina’s back now that he’s older, but yeah it still sucks.

@Dagrizzb

Жыл бұрын

It robbed the feeling of weight in physical space.

@mortache

Жыл бұрын

@@Dagrizzb CGI is often much better than practical effects. So much better that filmmakers think just showing a spectacle is enough without good writing, and that's why we got burnt out of their overuse

I've seen this movie countless times-- and I didn't realize Doc Ock's tentacles were practical effects until just now. New respect for the team that made this film...

One of the best super movies, and truly one of the best movies in general. Sam Raimi is the man

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more.

I never liked Doc Ock from the comics but Alfred Molina did such a great performance, adding so much more depth to the character, he will forever more be THE Doc Ock to me.

9:13 I love it when the movie crew have fun on set, this seems like such a good memory and funny ass blooper 😂

One of the things I love about these video essays of yours, is that it makes me appreciate the well crafted movies even more, and what makes them stand out. Sometimes I also don't understand the whole reason behind why or what I love about a movie, but when broken down like this many things start to make more sense. Thank you!

The newer spiderman films are good in their own way, i feel like they nailed spiderman with Tom Holland and he feels like the star of the show. But the villains in these films were just unmatched. The Green Goblin and Doc OC really felt like the centrepiece of these films. Thats why these will always be my favourite renditions.

@lp.shakur

Жыл бұрын

that got me thinking, you made a very good point here, Sam Raimi understood how a graphic novel works and really brought it to film, in the novels, it's about our heroes yeah, we see em hopping and flying around but the real center pieces of the novels are mostly the villains and their grand plans and schemes, that's what's missing today, so they really feel like expendable fodder instead of serious threats that have to get dealt with

@KartarNighthawk

Жыл бұрын

Those films are at their best when they're being the tragedies of Norman Osborn and Otto Octavius respectively

Aunt May's speech about heroes has more soul than whole MCU

The Spiderman films understood that a relatable and sympathetic villain is much more interesting than a simple evildoer who just loves being evil. Osbourne was a man losing the grip on his company and legacy, driven to extreme ends. But before the serum broke his mind he was a nice guy. He respected Peter, encouraged his ability and pushed him to excel and not waste his ability. Otto too, initially dismissive of Peter as just a student he had to entertain to keep the money man happy, soon found that he wasn't some random kid, but a student with serious potential who could engage him on the topic properly. What could have been a whistle-stop tour of the lab and a swift taxi ride home, turned into a multi-hour in depth discussion about the physics behind Otto's experiment, and even dinner as Otto's wife looked on with amusement at her husband's enjoyment interacting with Peter. He was a good man trying to make a difference. That's so much more interesting when they fall into darkness and end up being the antagonist. You want them to be defeated, but you want them to be saved too. it also helps they got actors as good as Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina to give them all the qualities they need. Solid movies both.

Molina was as incredible as he was not only because he was dedicated to giving a fantastic performance, but because he was clearly having a BLAST with this behemoth of a role. He was absolutely brilliant and one of the best comic book villain portrayals ever.

"To make each job as different as the last one"' Great line from a great actor. I always love actors who are willing to go outside of their comfort zone.

I just noticed Flo is on Molina's right. If Molina is right-handed, I love the intentional or unintentional creation of a "dominant" tentacle.

Doc Ock's tentacles are still one of the best practical effects I've ever seen, I still remember as a kid going to a toy store grabbing 2 of those grabber toy things and grabbing stuff with them pretending to be Doc Ock and trying to put a wafer stick on my mouth like a cigar which most of the time gets crushed or dropped by the toy.

Alfred Molina is such a versatile actor.

I really liked how each arm seemed to have its own autonomy, its own decision making. Even though logic would say its just 1 single machine, one mind. The choice to use puppeteering was on point.

These videos are so ridiculously underrated. Smooth narration, concise descriptions, fantastic and interesting behind the scenes footage, great topical points. And overall, enjoyable content!

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Whoo! Although, I don’t think they’re underrated. I get way more attention for a channel my size than I deserve, honestly. Thank you so much for your comment. -Danny

I took my kids to see this. All these years later, it still comes up when we talk about great movies we've seen.

My personal choice as the greatest superhero movie character of all time, hero or villain. Molina's delivery of "listen to me now" as he regains mastery over his own mind and humanity sends literal shivers down my spine every single time. Something really powerful and profound happens in that moment, something very rarely achieved in movies or art in general.

The final shot of Otto drifting into the abyss is a spectacular CG shot for the time.

What’s your favorite scene from Spider-Man 2?

@isaiahvoss

Жыл бұрын

Either the train scene with 2.1 extended or Peter turning Otto back to good by not having him listen to the arms. A bonus is in Spider-Man No Way Home when Peter (Tobey Maguire) meets Otto again after he grew up.

@salty_deez

Жыл бұрын

When he said its morbin time. Unforgettable.😩

@nerdstudent8852

Жыл бұрын

Operating room, it's got horror vibe all around it, just add some blood splats then it will turned as horror movie scene

@A.l85

Жыл бұрын

The scene on the train, when Peter Parker tries to stop the train before it crashes through the fence, and all the people there try to protect him from Doctor Octavius

@king0vdarkness

Жыл бұрын

it has got to be the train scene

Thank you for bringing this to us. It is awesome when the trifecta of excellent writing, acting and amazing special effects comes together. Doc Oc was portrayed as the villain you could almost root for. Like Sandman, he was as much a victim as a villian.

Every Frame a Painting. Saying that as these are very well done and narrated. A lot of detail and background. Like!

This perfectly sums up why I love this movie so much. I was born just before it came out, and finally got to see it only recently since it made its way to Netflix. Before No Way Home and Into the Spiderverse, I didn't really care for Spider-Man, until Doc Ock showed up. Olivia Octavuis was my first introduction to the character, and as someone who was more interested in the art direction, I was pleasantly surprised that the quirky STEM girl was the main villain's henchman with some awesome robot arms. Then, I watched NWH with some friends and fell in love with Molina's version, so much, so I had to see the original just I could understand it, and watched the intro to the character and Horror Hospital. I love redemption arcs, and NWH did a good job at introducing the character and the situation he was in. You can tell he realized what he did was wrong (and, as I would find out, nearly catastrophic on a nuclear scale) and did what he could to help out. On the side of Practical FX, I love Little Shop of Horrors, especially for its use of complex puppetry and how they worked around it, so seeing big, mechanical and most importantly REAL arms physically on an actor just makes everything so much more realistic. You could feel the dedication radiating from the screen, and I enjoyed every bit of it. On the visual effects side, I'm sure those who watched the film on TV at the time probably thought a lot of those CG shots were real; I watched Otto's death on a smart TV and thought it was real; the only thing I thought was weird was his hair. Molina's Doc Ock as a character is one of, if not the best combinations of ingenuity, talent, villainy and humanity in pop culture, and it is a shame how films nowadays (not even just superhero movies) have replaced that passion for what sells. There's a reason why they used the human octopus as a main selling point - he (and by extension all the people who created him) deserves it.

Great video as always, but DAMN that transition from Doc Ock picking up the tritium to the reveal of your channel title was spectacular!

I see Spider-Man 2 on the thumbnail and I click as fast as possible. Simple. Love this work, man 🤙

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah :)

Bring back practical effects 🙌🏻

In 2004 Columbia hired me to work on the promo material for Spider Man 2. I made animated desktops for the website and some other stuff. They asked me to make a 3d animation of the robot arms that played in a loop. I worked on some other movies that year but that was my favorite project for them.

@tylerpool5464

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome I wonder if I saw any of your work as a kid

SO excited for another cinemastix, thank you :)

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

:)

My god I thought the arms were CGI. THEY look AMAZING

My favorite line ; "I will not die a monster"!

The fiddler on Doc Oc's roof is such a wonderful clip

I watched this lovely again a couple of days ago, great timing!

I always thought that Molina was dropped into a water tank and they filmed him sink to the bottom.

Nice video...I personally worked on the EFX crew for the miniature shots of Doc Oct's lair, the destruction and sinking parks along with the end part where the power station tumbled down the pier

beautiful video esssy. Thank you for making it Molina Raimi and Dykstra deserve all the praise for it truly ahead of its time.

One of my all-time favorite movies out of thousands I have seen.

Great, great video! Great writing and observation. Thank you for this.

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Thank YOU for checking it out. Just glad people are enjoying it. :) -Danny

This was the first movie I ever watched in a cinema. I love it for that, the nostalgia and the simple fact that in my opinion it is one of the best superhero movies of all time.

I remember the first time I saw this, when the arms join him in mourning it really got me, I knew this wasn't just an action movie.

Probably my favorite superhero movie to this day!

Great video as always @CinemaStix! We love Spider-Man 2 as well.

And here I was wondering how well those "CGI" arms aged. The puppeteers killed it

What I dislike about the second movie that really threw me off rewatching it was the CGI. The rest: perfection

I was an incredibly lazy student but Ive always been "smart" or at least told I was and Otto's admonition to Peter "Brilliant but lazy." always really hit me hard especially the second time he says it when Peter unmasks in front of him. Something about the way he gives that half smirk of recognition always wrenches my gut and starts my lip quivering right up until he says "I will not die a monster!" then I shed a few tears.

You’ve become one of my favorite KZread channels in recent memory. It’s rare to find a channel that talks about films to do so in a way that feels refreshing, even when it’s something we have already heard of or already know. Thanks for the great content ❤

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad you’re enjoying it! When I learn something new about a movie I’ve loved for a long time, I just assume there must be other people in my position, and why not share that information as best I can. So. I’m happy it’s reaching the right audiences :) -Danny

bro... your videos are so good, keep the good work!!!!

I slept on these when they came out. They’re all so good!

This is an indescribably good video.

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

That’s tremendously kind :) -Danny

Love your stuff, can’t wait to see your channel grow !!

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! It’s already growing fast enough that it’s hard to keep up :)

Just watched your Spiderman Green Goblin video. Your style is unique and professional. I welcome these videos on KZread. 👏👏

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

:D Thank ya! And also welcome :) I’ve got a lot more up, and a lot more on the way. I hope more that you’ll find interesting. -Danny

Can't wait for a multiverse version where Dafoe plays as a doc ock variant 🤣

I love your use of clips from interviews and the like! It makes it distinct from most videos I see on here.

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great outtakes!

4:23 to you he's a comic book author, to me he's the papa of Babylon-5, the best god damn tv series in history

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

Word

Love your videos, Danny! Would love to see one about the 1899. It wasn't a masterpiece of art, but there's definitely something to it.

LAURA ZISKIN was the only one capable to save this movie from AVI ARAD After she died in 2011, during the production of TASM1, there was nobody else to stop Arad from ruining everything May she rest in peace

This whole video was really well done and enjoyable but also was worth it just for that little coordinated "If I Were a Rich Man" bit

Your video quality (rhythm, structure, detail oriented etc) is priceless.

Oh thank goodness, I thought every frame a painting had, "stopped" doing video essays, glad to see you're doing great!

Damn dude solid retrospect of this movie. That was good shit.

@CinemaStix

Жыл бұрын

:)

I loved the entire trilogy but nothing beats Spider-Man 1 for me

8:40 it's still cutting edge, honestly. We just don't get CG this good today. Wonderful vide

The action set pieces in this movie were amazing. They actually went all over the environment and used everything in it, ie. the fight on the side of the building. In too many modern superhero movies, they're just coasting over their surroundings and indiscriminately breaking things in a detached way. I also love how they don't choreograph Otto as a villain right away; there's no cheesy "dun dun dun" stuff happening. He's just a standard character which makes everything more tragic.

Well done, Danny. Another video knocked outta the park.

@CinemaStix

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Thank ya!! So glad you enjoyed it. One of my favorite movies.

@thegoodgeneral

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@@CinemaStix it and its predecessor weren’t favorites at all when I was a young teen. I thought they were silly. Over time however the more I watched them the more I realized how special they are, and now I’m thoroughly in love.

Another great vid!

@CinemaStix

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Thank you!

Getting better with cutting the voice lines organically into the video

Good stuff mate

The VFX really hold up well and huge thanks to the practical effects where possible.

Spiderman 2 is still my favorite out of any movie adaptation of Marvel characters

I can tell you specially enjoyed this video, Danny. It shows in the intimacy and respect on the making off

@CinemaStix

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I really did! I enjoy them all in their own way. But some of the movies I talk about really mean something extra to me. Thank you so much for watching :)

@QUBIQUBED

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@@CinemaStixI thought some mega corporation owned your channel, but I guess not. Really good content dude 👍

@CinemaStix

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Thank you! I think the bigger I get the more at risk I am of folks thinking that might be the case. With a channel name that isn’t my own name, perhaps there’s no having one without the other. But. Important thing is, nope. No mega corps here :)

"A guy named otto octavius ends up with 8 limbs, what are the odds!" I like that they actually mentioned that

When you realized Raimi Spiderman Trilogy is actually movie about villains origin 😁

I feel silly for not thinking about this sooner, but both spider and octopus have 8 limbs. I can only imagine that parallel was meant as well

7:28 Simply gold.

Gotta say, I love the well-deserved growth this channel is experiencing. I subscribed at like 65k but that seems like only a month ago. Congrats on the success Danny, keep up the stellar work!

@CinemaStix

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Thank you! It’s been quite the ride. Could not have predicted this six months ago.

I love that you used the first frame as the thumbnail and made it fit the presentation.

I knew allot (but not all) of this, because I was obsessed with the first two movies as a child. Those four arms really felt like their own characters. And I really missed the practical 4 arms in " no way home" you could see and feel the difference.

I was told the inhibitor chip had a history regarding being a salvaged piece of equipment from Ultron in the original comic. Now I'm not a complete spider-nerd or marvel nerd to waste my time skimming through a comic for truths but, regardless of that inquiry, I think that idea is extremely perfect depending on the timeline being set in stone or split.

Spider-man 2 will forever be my greatest Superhero movie of all time

Sam Raimi's Spider man movies were a huge part of my childhood and I loved them! Another contender that comes to mind for best sequel of a movie, is Terminator 2 imo. I looooove that movie and would love to see you make a video about it. Great stuff!

The tentacle playing snooker and answering the phone had me dying XD