When The Casuals Were Right & Hardcore MMA Fans Were Wrong!

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In this video I discuss the few times where the Casual MMA fans were actually right and the so called Hardcore MMA fans were wrong. I discuss Stephen A Smith's comments on Cowboy Cerrone, David Goggins as Tony Ferguson's Cornerman, Shannon Sharpe Being Corrected by Francis Ngannou & Many More. Let me know what you think in the comments.
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Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:35 Goggins Was A Good Cornerman For Tony Ferguson
5:13 Shannon Sharpe Was Right About McGregor & Rousey
9:54 Jorge Masvidal Beats Ben Askren 9/10 Times
13:36 Tapping Is A Form Of Giving Up
16:36 Stephen A Smith Was Right About Cowboy
21:44 Max Kellerman "Boxing Died with Conor vs Diaz 2"

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  • @extracrispy9229
    @extracrispy92295 ай бұрын

    Let’s be real goggins wasn’t worse than “throw sand” 😂

  • @rockNhardplace

    @rockNhardplace

    5 ай бұрын

    Definitely better than pat Barry

  • @extracrispy9229

    @extracrispy9229

    5 ай бұрын

    @@rockNhardplace him too! I was trying to remember bros name; that whole situation is fucked.

  • @saljewsteinbergowitz

    @saljewsteinbergowitz

    5 ай бұрын

    Asking Tony to throw sand was brilliant, that coach is the goat

  • @OverproofMMA

    @OverproofMMA

    5 ай бұрын

    Shocking how much worse Tony looked vs Paddy compared to how he looked against Gaethje. He got demolished in that fight but still had a couple highlights, with the uppercut and the foot sweep. That fight just changed everything for Tony.

  • @jakelongstaff4102

    @jakelongstaff4102

    5 ай бұрын

    bro was listening to Stricklands advice and repeating it lol. gogginns was a shit corner man dunno how Lucas can act like that's a bad take

  • @ethanhawkins3391
    @ethanhawkins33915 ай бұрын

    Goggins might not have been what Tony needed, but props to him for trying something new to find a spark. So many fighters lack a motor and someone like Goggins supporting them could be the missing puzzle piece. Seems it was too little, too late for El Cucuy though

  • @Pals420

    @Pals420

    5 ай бұрын

    i think after maybe the justin fight goggins would of been a good pick, but this late you're right too little too late

  • @kimbopizzaslice

    @kimbopizzaslice

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Pals420he would’ve beat Chandler

  • @goodxd701

    @goodxd701

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@kimbopizzaslice ya he looked good in the first round

  • @DanAddison

    @DanAddison

    5 ай бұрын

    I dunno, man. Not so sure Tony is intelligently seeking out the guidance he needs. Sounds to me like he's spent his later career bouncing between teams that just accommodate whatever he wants to do to feel good about himself in the moment. Completely presumptuous of me, I know, but I suspect Tony is insufferable as a student. Can you imagine him shutting up for a second and doing the boring difficult things he needs to do with humility, to follow a good coach's masterplan? I can't. Every time someone tried to teach him something in the last few years I gotta assume he just launched one of his signature bitter deluded Tony meandering rant, just a stream-of-consciousness maze of goofy contradictions where the only consistent message is that Tony is the best at everything.

  • @jakelongstaff4102

    @jakelongstaff4102

    5 ай бұрын

    nah goons seemed awkward and out of place especially near the stool

  • @Grimthrxx
    @Grimthrxx5 ай бұрын

    Lucas is committed to the game. Absolutely pumping content.

  • @squadabingo9113

    @squadabingo9113

    5 ай бұрын

    Shut up bro. Corny af

  • @extracrispy9229

    @extracrispy9229

    5 ай бұрын

    On his grind for sure

  • @thatindiandude4602

    @thatindiandude4602

    5 ай бұрын

    Pumping content like he is pumping iron.

  • @ruin3r

    @ruin3r

    5 ай бұрын

    Could overtake Guru this year cause bro is burned out and resting on his laurels now that fighters are interacting with him.

  • @extracrispy9229

    @extracrispy9229

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ruin3r guru does seem to have slowed down a bit but I can’t fault him for that; he’s been grinding hard for years and now that he’s up he should enjoy it. I don’t see Lucas overtaking him this year though unless guru full on stops uploading for several months; but who knows KZread’s weird.

  • @libertyhart3273
    @libertyhart32735 ай бұрын

    People forget that 2 fights after Askren, Masvidal fought PRIME usman on 6 days noticed and defended most of the takedowns for 5 rounds. All usman could do was hold him in the fence and stomp feet. Yeah, he would of handled Askren fine

  • @TheScottman

    @TheScottman

    5 ай бұрын

    Jorge one dimensional he beat askein who’s an old bag a milk and that’s it and beat up Nate when everyone does

  • @daniel-ss1rk

    @daniel-ss1rk

    5 ай бұрын

    Lol bro I’ve been saying this, masvidal would’ve probably beat piss out of askren for 15 minutes

  • @traiwitz2736

    @traiwitz2736

    5 ай бұрын

    facts. the first usman fight was impressive for jorge imo

  • @Hamjr193

    @Hamjr193

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TheScottman nah for real. EVERYONE beats the piss outta nate lol

  • @jaymthesn5981

    @jaymthesn5981

    5 ай бұрын

    Then got a full camp... Got Unbatized.😂

  • @Northsyde21
    @Northsyde215 ай бұрын

    Thank you for mentioning the Stephen A take, ive been thinking that for years. Cowboy himself had the same sentiment when asked about the fight years later

  • @aarkproductions

    @aarkproductions

    5 ай бұрын

    I've practiced martial arts and switched between boxing and k1 kickboxing over the years and let me tell you, every person in the realm of sport combat is opinionated, And they're right but at the same time wrong, I can't explain it anymore than that, but while I don't agree with Steven a Smith's conclusion to how the cowboy cerone vs Connor fight went down, I'm always willing to listen to EVERYONE'S thoughts, now whether or not you train does matter but what you can offer knowledge wise can still be useful depending, Even a toddler can teach an adult something knew, A new perspective, It's just we're so used to many casuals acting like no at alls aswell and I'm sorry if you personally don't feel you can offer an opinion

  • @nyoro8628

    @nyoro8628

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah Cowboy himself admitted and even then fans disagreed with him lol.

  • @CasualGamer121

    @CasualGamer121

    5 ай бұрын

    Me too man

  • @Dahn.Baern.

    @Dahn.Baern.

    5 ай бұрын

    Exactly. He literally said that Stephen A was right

  • @Ishbikes

    @Ishbikes

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Dahn.Baern.years later. He should’ve supported Smith when mma fans were ripping his fckin heart out.

  • @evilkhamzat
    @evilkhamzat5 ай бұрын

    So basically David Goggins is a glorified cheerleader? 😂

  • @woahitsmeach9150

    @woahitsmeach9150

    5 ай бұрын

    david goggins is the greatest fighter that ever lived

  • @GabrielMartinez-ed6xg

    @GabrielMartinez-ed6xg

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @ThatGuy72

    @ThatGuy72

    5 ай бұрын

    You’re lucky David goggins doesn’t try and be a fighter, he would be welterweight champion

  • @chickencikchicklet599

    @chickencikchicklet599

    5 ай бұрын

    aren’t all corner men

  • @Zizoujr11

    @Zizoujr11

    5 ай бұрын

    Still better than Colby’s corner men..wtf was that

  • @wither_v9632
    @wither_v96325 ай бұрын

    i look at tapping similar to resigning in chess, high level players in mma and chess can look at their situation and decide that it isn’t worth fighting anymore. it can be looked at as quitting if they maybe resign or tap early, but it isn’t quitting, some fighters are deciding they would rather not have a career ending arm break

  • @godusopp2752

    @godusopp2752

    5 ай бұрын

    I think tapping to an ankle lock is different than a guillotine

  • @ttm9227

    @ttm9227

    5 ай бұрын

    It is by definition quitting. The issue for me is more so the lack of nuance, quitting isn’t always bad. I can think of plenty situations where quitting is the honorable and correct option, and tapping and saving your body for more fights instead off going out or getting a shoulder ripped out is definitely one of those times

  • @semen6870

    @semen6870

    4 ай бұрын

    that is literally quitting, not that is something bad, but it means you are acepting your loss so it is actually quitting

  • @st2whocares988
    @st2whocares9885 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't say Conor is one-dimensional, dude only real weakness is his stamina, his Bjj is pretty solid and he has decent enough wrestling, he just sadly had to fight guys like Khabib who was one of the best wrestlers in the UFC, also Conor used BJJ against Max Holloway early in his career

  • @mumkeymumkey4078

    @mumkeymumkey4078

    5 ай бұрын

    He’s also shown nice clinch work (Diaz 2 and shoulder strikes in the Cowboy fight ). Like, yeah he’s not the 2016 Conor anymore but this agreement is extremely crude way of viewing present/pass McGregor.

  • @ogkush2002

    @ogkush2002

    5 ай бұрын

    I agree, Conor isn’t one dimensional. In his prime he was a true martial artist

  • @porkpine123

    @porkpine123

    5 ай бұрын

    You could say he's 1 dimensional now especially after focusing on boxing for so long. Back in the day at 145 he could do it all but that's life as a combat sports athlete, you peak and decline ce la vie

  • @PercSlushy

    @PercSlushy

    5 ай бұрын

    Hes one dimensional because hes only got one viable option to win a fight and that is to outsrike and ko his opponent. “I only count knockouts” - conor

  • @nasvsan6191

    @nasvsan6191

    5 ай бұрын

    He's one dimensional on the offensive.

  • @adamswarbrick8791
    @adamswarbrick87915 ай бұрын

    I've completed in jiu jitsu and to your first point about coaching, it doesn't need to be technical a lot of the time. Just having your team motivating you and cheering you on is actually really good to help push through tough spots.

  • @bradybingham7605

    @bradybingham7605

    5 ай бұрын

    No doubt man.

  • @Ishbikes

    @Ishbikes

    5 ай бұрын

    That’s why boxing is better. You 100% need a good coach

  • @Yonkipog

    @Yonkipog

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Ishbikes i agree withe the second statement but dont understand the first. like how does that make it better? like in what sense? lol

  • @Ishbikes

    @Ishbikes

    5 ай бұрын

    @@russellwilson9911 like the kids say *cope harder* 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @crackermc

    @crackermc

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Ishbikes bait or restarted?

  • @mlgquickscoper8122
    @mlgquickscoper81225 ай бұрын

    "if you could walk on water, mf's will say that you can't swim" - David "adamantium Knees" Goggins

  • @nasvsan6191
    @nasvsan61915 ай бұрын

    How could hardcore fans not agree with Stephen there? Cowboy was THE premier quitter in the UFC. All his losses are him just accepting punishment until the ref stops it

  • @JimBeatman

    @JimBeatman

    5 ай бұрын

    It really isn’t that he’s jst a level below the top cowboy always was .. no shame in that

  • @loismylane

    @loismylane

    5 ай бұрын

    @@JimBeatman Well yeah but when someone like izzy or cody garbrandt gets rocked, they are still dangerous to chase after. Even in his prime, it seemed like when cowboy got hit clean he would shell up and paint a target around himself and lose all offensive ability. If you rock cowboy, you can flurry on him with 0 risk of eating a check hook, getting taken down, or getting tangled in a clinch

  • @curtharakaly4620

    @curtharakaly4620

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@loismylanegetting rocked and finished doesn't mean you are a quitter in any sort of way. You do realize not everybody can get rocked bad and be fine right??? Cowboy never had an iron chin and thats the reason why people like you say and think he is a quitter. More often than not guys that get rocked and start swinging wildly get finished than guys who protect themselves, shell up and try to recover. Even your example of Izzy is wrong. When Alex had him hurt he turtled up and the cage and did nothing for about 30 seconds besides get lit up and quit.

  • @user-wy1et9dk9w

    @user-wy1et9dk9w

    5 ай бұрын

    @@curtharakaly4620he literally admitted to not wanting to be there in the Conor fight. Sounds like quitting to me.

  • @aarkproductions
    @aarkproductions5 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately a good chunk of mma fans don't actually do any MMA... Ironic...

  • @IronReef77

    @IronReef77

    5 ай бұрын

    And be the main ones talking the most shit

  • @aarkproductions

    @aarkproductions

    5 ай бұрын

    @@IronReef77 Dude I know, like I promise you the ones that actually train don't have that much time, they've got their own fights and camps to worry about

  • @Tepaneca

    @Tepaneca

    5 ай бұрын

    Mfs never even been in a fight. It’s mostly mayonnaise boys who can’t throw hands so they hope to wrestle

  • @captain_malaria
    @captain_malaria5 ай бұрын

    I keep getting confused on which side he actually supports haha

  • @yeyeyeyeye222
    @yeyeyeyeye2225 ай бұрын

    Lucas the GOAT of original/fresh MMA content concepts! Happy holidays ploddy plodster :)

  • @lacie5816
    @lacie58165 ай бұрын

    Justice for Parker Porter

  • @faithalone5081

    @faithalone5081

    5 ай бұрын

    Why? How

  • @The_Stickle_Cell

    @The_Stickle_Cell

    5 ай бұрын

    @@faithalone5081Parker Porter got cut

  • @griggsz9649

    @griggsz9649

    5 ай бұрын

    I swear my brain just reads his name as Parker porker 😂

  • @KeithThaStallionAllen
    @KeithThaStallionAllen5 ай бұрын

    Goggins felt that loss, hes entire destiny was linked to that fight "Can he resurrect the late Tony Ferg"

  • @ciaagent8419
    @ciaagent84195 ай бұрын

    Entering your prime is like walking on new legs. It takes some getting used to. The next time Tony steps into that Octagon, he's going to be winning like you wouldn't believe.

  • @GnosticGnome

    @GnosticGnome

    5 ай бұрын

    blades and shades

  • @Deez_Nutsss123

    @Deez_Nutsss123

    5 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @nomadblack1776
    @nomadblack17765 ай бұрын

    Sometimes casual fans can see things we (hardcore fans) cannot because we are too busy looking for complicated answers when the truth is much simpler.

  • @jaqarious4339
    @jaqarious43395 ай бұрын

    Lucas Is the Hardcore Fan

  • @waleedhamadeh-by8jz

    @waleedhamadeh-by8jz

    5 ай бұрын

    Lucas is the casual he thinks tom aspinall beats jon jones or ngannou

  • @hellohello5301

    @hellohello5301

    5 ай бұрын

    @@waleedhamadeh-by8jzmaybe not Ngannou but he probably beats Jon

  • @faithalone5081

    @faithalone5081

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@waleedhamadeh-by8jzjones lost against reyes santos gus 1 Aspinall has wrestling natural heavyweight Aspinall is like ngannou but faster and has better grappling (His chin was tested with pavlovich)

  • @ogkush2002

    @ogkush2002

    5 ай бұрын

    I love the whole Lucas is a causal Talk. He doesn’t like that shit🤣

  • @The_Average_Dan
    @The_Average_Dan5 ай бұрын

    Best mma content on KZread. Keep changing the game

  • @ogkush2002

    @ogkush2002

    5 ай бұрын

    Him & MMA Joey are my favs but MMA Joey doesn’t take advice to grow his channel. I kept telling him to collab with Lucas and do UFC card Recaps together or videos like this. Imagine Joey on screen giving his take as well with this video. Those would be good

  • @brianmitchell22
    @brianmitchell225 ай бұрын

    Festive Lucas destroys any other MMA KZreadr

  • @ChampagneThrottle
    @ChampagneThrottle5 ай бұрын

    W takes Lucas. This is your best video

  • @Hamjr193
    @Hamjr1935 ай бұрын

    I never understood the goggins hate when he was in the corner. And it's basically as you said, the fighter has been training for 2 months or more for this very moment, sometimes a fighter might get discouraged after a round where they may have not done the best, and their corner comes in and kicks them in the ass a bit try and hype them up.

  • @paulbadman8509
    @paulbadman85095 ай бұрын

    It's time to talk about your hair.

  • @eveningstar4543

    @eveningstar4543

    5 ай бұрын

    Kinda looks like ruffled up carpet.

  • @Dfgdf91

    @Dfgdf91

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@eveningstar4543 At his age, Tanzanian pigmy's start to lose their hair. Lucas is just a bit shy about it 😳

  • @Rancid_Sanity
    @Rancid_Sanity5 ай бұрын

    I used to go to Chael for his strong opinions but he has been off the deep end for quite sometime now and I am so thankful to have Lucas always bring that new heat. No matter if you agree or disagree with him it's always fun to watch him go hard in the paint. Lucas and Guru are pretty much the only MMA channels I watch and actually care what they have to say.

  • @T9K66

    @T9K66

    5 ай бұрын

    I haven’t seen Chael in a while, wym he’s off the deep end?

  • @FlyinTools

    @FlyinTools

    5 ай бұрын

    I agree, Chael is just embarrassing now

  • @GearlessJoe0
    @GearlessJoe05 ай бұрын

    The thing that pissed me off the most in the Tony Ferguson fight is that I actually had high hopes, and thought he would come in clutch with the cardio, specially that moment where Paddy gasses out completely yet Tony himself was too tired to throw a punch, I remember thinking “all that cardio for what?! He’s too tired to throw a single punch”, if instead of doing mindless running, he had actually done sport specific cardio it’s obvious he would’ve preformed better , and when he got taken down he was too mentally defeated, and physically weak to get back up, if he had focused more on sport specific training with actual intensity (not just mindless running), then I feel like he would’ve actually done better, I just remember when he got taken down and seeing the look Tony had like he had given up and thinking of maybe he did a little more strength and conditioning and a fuckton less running that this wouldn’t have happened but he is an old man so I’m not saying he would’ve BECOME more powerful, but he could’ve at least regained some explosiveness

  • @aarkproductions

    @aarkproductions

    5 ай бұрын

    And now you see why people who should know what they're doing need to be helping these fighters out, a loud mouth who lifts and runs isn't going to offer much in sport combat

  • @motianton

    @motianton

    5 ай бұрын

    @@aarkproductions he's a stamina and mentality guy

  • @aarkproductions

    @aarkproductions

    5 ай бұрын

    @@motianton You can't build stamina in the octagon by running you build stamina by sparring, Wait have you ever trained before?

  • @bmmjg

    @bmmjg

    5 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@aarkproductionshe could have any coach on earth and he still wouldnt sniff a win in the top 10 of any division

  • @aarkproductions

    @aarkproductions

    5 ай бұрын

    @@bmmjg Lol Very VERY wrong, If he had a coach that would focus on shorter concise movements that wouldn't allow Tony to gas as much and study paddy, he would've atleast given a better performance

  • @DesdeEscondido
    @DesdeEscondido5 ай бұрын

    I think for UFC 196 Conor mcgregor at one point said pass out before tap out. He was getting choked out and tapped out while Holly holm the same night passed out by Miesha Tate.

  • @Jameslfgsmith
    @Jameslfgsmith5 ай бұрын

    To be fair Tony hasn’t had a great corner since May 2020… his dad confided in Chael on how to get his son to stop fighting and his fear for lack of competence in his team… Based yet sad

  • @JulioEuropePharmaVendor
    @JulioEuropePharmaVendor5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for bringing everyday entertaining! You really have grown on me

  • @regardlesslamron2096
    @regardlesslamron20965 ай бұрын

    Totally right about boxing. Where’s their KZread niche ? They only have big media channels but hardly any independent KZreadrs doing their own thing covering the sport like we have for mma. It is 100% a dying sport

  • @ThatOneVelliGuy

    @ThatOneVelliGuy

    5 ай бұрын

    This is severely untrue.

  • @cogitoy7692

    @cogitoy7692

    5 ай бұрын

    Don't get mma fans coping so hard about boxing's demise... it's beneficial to have more combat sports, from the fan pov anyway

  • @UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision

    @UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision

    5 ай бұрын

    @@cogitoy7692 its ufc or nothin

  • @UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision

    @UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision

    5 ай бұрын

    Boxing only has a bunch of 50 year old fans left, they barely know how to work youtube

  • @da_1nvad3r67

    @da_1nvad3r67

    5 ай бұрын

    @@cogitoy7692lmao you acting like they in the same sport which competition would be ideal but there not the same sport . Your point would be valid if you were talking about ONE or Bellator

  • @Wwyou617
    @Wwyou6175 ай бұрын

    Honestly goggins in the corner was kinda a genius idea it’s genuinely rare a corner man gives amazing advice honestly getting goggins in there is probably the best idea Tony’s had in years

  • @thesportstheorist1993
    @thesportstheorist19935 ай бұрын

    that canelo take was wild. he just fought a Charlo twin

  • @3AXEL69
    @3AXEL695 ай бұрын

    Great content and topic, loving the channel

  • @twiztid571
    @twiztid5715 ай бұрын

    wow i just realized we both started watching ufc consistently at the same time around 2017 following the very same fight! that's crazy man, i love this channel even more now

  • @fariselbanna6290
    @fariselbanna62905 ай бұрын

    Lucas your videos are legit so entertaining and your commentary is great, when you say something controversial and you tell everyone to calm down I swear it's comedy, you always follow up w ur point and it's good lol

  • @patternsintheivy1
    @patternsintheivy15 ай бұрын

    I don't think all the hardcore fans were necessarily anti-Goggins. I saw it as a pretty casual take, but it being the result of tunnel vision from a hardcore fan makes sense.

  • @darkclaw1462
    @darkclaw14625 ай бұрын

    So I guess Lucas Is the hardcore fan In this case. Don't think we didn't forget about "Cyril Gane will bully 50-45 Jon Jones" and "Charles Oliveira Is going to get crushed by Beneil Dariush" takes my guy, lol.

  • @holocade4908

    @holocade4908

    5 ай бұрын

    You stopped there? Theres atleast 20 other examples you could of said too. 🤣

  • @extracrispy9229

    @extracrispy9229

    5 ай бұрын

    Baron Banana peel himself 😂

  • @sonnysad905

    @sonnysad905

    5 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget Whittaker and the Banana peel

  • @sonnysad905

    @sonnysad905

    5 ай бұрын

    Or Aljo is gonna smother O’Malley

  • @getshwiftygaming447

    @getshwiftygaming447

    5 ай бұрын

    Charles sucks so it was a good prediction lol

  • @twiztid571
    @twiztid5715 ай бұрын

    i like how you just get right into the topic of discussion with no cheesy intro or nothing, i need more lucasTracyMMA content in my veins!

  • @ItsameAlex
    @ItsameAlex5 ай бұрын

    I can't believe I started watching UFC earlier than you

  • @62ZAKA
    @62ZAKA5 ай бұрын

    I think the quitting take is a bit stupid because you see people quit in boxing too. As soon as you stop throwing back and just stand at the ropes with your guard up until the ref steppes in you could argue you were quitting

  • @emmanuelmakoba6085
    @emmanuelmakoba60855 ай бұрын

    I love this video. You're spot in with this one, Lucas

  • @jeberted
    @jeberted5 ай бұрын

    Goggins was just cussing in Tony’s face the whole time

  • @user-jr6fk3fk4c
    @user-jr6fk3fk4c5 ай бұрын

    I really liked the new style thumbnail this video it makes ur vids stand out more

  • @fake_name841
    @fake_name8415 ай бұрын

    I was really hoping to hear a "Who's gonna carry the boats, Tony!" From Goggins

  • @Landlord0fTheFilthy
    @Landlord0fTheFilthy5 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU !!!!!! FOR THAT JORGE STATEMENT!!!!! I got shyt for saying it awhile back !!!

  • @regardlesslamron2096
    @regardlesslamron20965 ай бұрын

    Most creative content on mma KZread

  • @seanc7990
    @seanc79905 ай бұрын

    Lucas is a hardcore casual, picks spivak against gane and dariush against arman to seem like a mma mastermind lol

  • @Dfgdf91

    @Dfgdf91

    5 ай бұрын

    He probably still thinks that beneil was a good pick on paper

  • @idkanymore1298

    @idkanymore1298

    5 ай бұрын

    It's not that deep

  • @sonny4978
    @sonny49785 ай бұрын

    i like the background being grey, helps my eyes

  • @Brathaa
    @Brathaa5 ай бұрын

    Spot on. People got mad cuz sas said cowboy quits in the big moments, which he does

  • @everydaffodil5344
    @everydaffodil53445 ай бұрын

    You actually made good points with the tapping is quitting take.

  • @iankreegs9196
    @iankreegs91965 ай бұрын

    The masvidal take redeemed you, I’m not a Jorge fan like I used to be but everyone saw asleep Jake Paul and Jorge’s take down defense is legit.

  • @thekinghash
    @thekinghash4 ай бұрын

    There were so many times fighters tapped in a choke with 2 seconds left in the round, that’s when you DONT QUIT and hope you’re awake for the next round

  • @kall745
    @kall7455 ай бұрын

    tony is uncoachable and never worked on his bad habits, he's way too accepting to being on the bottom trying to bjj and throw albows, it doesn't work for him anymore. Among other things.

  • @ItsameAlex
    @ItsameAlex5 ай бұрын

    interesting takes

  • @jaymzwillson5776
    @jaymzwillson57765 ай бұрын

    Lucas Ive listened to you sporadically over the last year or so. I became a diehard in 01 around diaz lawler one. Bought all previous events on vhs and bought all events until they stopped selling physical copies. I've never missed one event and own a vast library of the Neanderthal shit. So.. sir you have earned my subscription and my attention.As an og fan,and me being 42 I don't usually agree with alot of day to day people or KZread personalities who Xerox the common narrative. As a young man you see the sport in a common light as me. People say the Dricus Strickland melee was orchestrated... TKO merged WWE +UFC... about 3 months ago enough time for collective focus groups. What do you think man it's a multi billion dollar collaboration. Take what sells in the dying "sport" and apply it to the growing cash cow. God I hope that shit isn't true but I can kinda see it. Sean crying on a podcast to oversell it because he sold out. So tell me what you think man..

  • @RUTSG
    @RUTSG5 ай бұрын

    David "do what we did!" Goggins

  • @ChainSmoke420
    @ChainSmoke4205 ай бұрын

    i think the 'no quit in him' refers to just accepting the submission instead of fighting out of it over and over, not necessarily tapping

  • @BizzaroBrainBoi
    @BizzaroBrainBoi5 ай бұрын

    tony would had been better off spending NO time with david goggins and spent that time TRAINING with his REAL coach. EXACTLY what PADDY said.

  • @JasperOFlanigan-fb5lv
    @JasperOFlanigan-fb5lv5 ай бұрын

    Goggins took advantage of an over the hill fighter to build his own brand. He should be ashamed of himself

  • @MPatt2021
    @MPatt20215 ай бұрын

    I was waiting on the SAS take glad you had the balls to say it respect

  • @melissarodriguez2812
    @melissarodriguez28125 ай бұрын

    Awww I love your tree!!

  • @respecttimeCUBE
    @respecttimeCUBE5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the Askren Masvidal take. Constantly seeing that take literally gives me a headache.

  • @youhaveayds8975
    @youhaveayds89755 ай бұрын

    People saying McGregor and Rousey are multi-dimensional is honestly a huge disrespect for champions who have shown to have worked on their weak areas, Kamaru Usman comes to mind specifically as his striking has evolved so much from the nut hugger he used to be. Moreno and Figgy have both helped eachother become absolute powerhouses, and everyone else yoy mentioned

  • @kelakogreenaddict1888

    @kelakogreenaddict1888

    5 ай бұрын

    I was gonna defend conor saying he had decent takedown defence and anti grappling, but then i just rewatched his fight against chad mendes- he stuffed a few and got like twice, but then gassed out and had to wait for either the round to end, or for chad to make a mistake (he went for the gilly) to get up- i think i've been spoiled by modern takedown defence like leon edwards' defence and thought mcgregor was up to that standard. if people can call darren till and shara bullet one dimensional, then i think you can call conor one dimensional as well

  • @georgenik-qv2eu
    @georgenik-qv2eu5 ай бұрын

    Best mma channel by far

  • @BaldianOfIbelin
    @BaldianOfIbelin5 ай бұрын

    It reminds me when economists fail to predict market declines, even though everyone is not saw it coming.

  • @AbdullahYA-
    @AbdullahYA-5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the dim background.

  • @teegees
    @teegees5 ай бұрын

    100% - The most effective corner coaching is psychological, not technical.

  • @americkseowdevries1443
    @americkseowdevries14435 ай бұрын

    Stephen A Smiths comments on WMMA were also spot on.

  • @WalkwYah
    @WalkwYah5 ай бұрын

    I don’t get how you put Max Kellerman on the “casual” take when he’s been covering boxing for decades. If anyone can say boxing is dying he’s definitely qualified.

  • @seniorbrogrammer
    @seniorbrogrammer4 ай бұрын

    It feels like casuals fall backwards into the right take in these videos rather than having actual insight.

  • @crusso7578
    @crusso75785 ай бұрын

    Let’s go my idea was used!! Everybody knows Stephen A was right despite all the hardcores trying to overcomplicate things

  • @thegoat-ishere4414

    @thegoat-ishere4414

    5 ай бұрын

    Mma community loves purity testing opinions based on how casual or hardcore the person who said it is

  • @nyoro8628
    @nyoro86285 ай бұрын

    I remember thinking Stephen A is absolutely right. That was not the Donald Cerrone we had seen up until that point. The pressure of 'the big fight' got to him. Cerrone froze!

  • @DakonBlackblade2
    @DakonBlackblade25 ай бұрын

    We hype Volk up because he escaped, but he himself already said many times his vision had blacked out almost completely, he was maybe two secs away from sleeping. Your alternative to not tapping is sleeping or having an injured limb, for every Volkanovski there are ten Joseph Benavidez and Minotauro Nogueiras, it's not quitting, that is a stupid take.

  • @eddododo
    @eddododo5 ай бұрын

    Cornering is its own skill, knowing what kind of advice is actually digestible and actionable, and laying the groundwork for certain queues throughout the camp so that the fighter has a conditioned response to an actionable change in gameplan, or to execute a strategy that was worked on. No, it doesn’t make sense to try to teach somebody better boxing in between Rams… It also doesn’t make sense to have somebody who has nothing to do with the sport in the corner of somebody who is taking the fast track to CTE land. The fact that we can point out, but a lot of MMA corners are not specialized in the task, if not being outright, shitty at it, but that doesn’t make it a bAd tAkE to point out that Dave Goggins Has less reason to be in a corner than Coach Latori

  • @galaxyvulture6649
    @galaxyvulture66495 ай бұрын

    I don't think tapping is quitting at all. That would be like saying if you get knocked down and are concussed and everything and covering up means you quit. You are in a position that you won't be able to escape that would result in something breaking or you sleeping so there's no point making yourself take more damage when you already lost. The sleeping/break only exist to 100% say you lost and having those situations can affect your career and going unconscious from chokes isn't good for the brain either and if the ref sucks you could die or have complications. If someone gets you in a rnc you will straight up have a broken jaw. There's quitting and then there's preserving yourself and accepting the fact defeat is inevitable.

  • @FrenkieWest32

    @FrenkieWest32

    4 ай бұрын

    Covering up when you're concussed is not the same as throwing in the towel. It is essentially still a scramble.

  • @minus0066
    @minus00665 ай бұрын

    Also steven a smith said cowboy couldn't take the pressure and willted under the brightlights. cowboy in his interview with brett okamoto, he said he didn't want to be thier and that cerroni showed up not cowboy, and i dont like a smith but when your right your right.

  • @congouskos8281
    @congouskos82815 ай бұрын

    Goated Content Creator Tracy

  • @streetplaya23
    @streetplaya235 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Tap=submit. submit=admitting that you lose and want it to stop/admitting to the dominance and letting it happen. the disagreement here is that it should NOT be seen as soft to live to fight another day when you tap to avoid you bones and ligament getting destroyed and ruining your career. also its not a fair comparison comparing punch damage vs ligament and bone damage from submissions. boxers can be warriors during punches, get put out, then train in months again, if u try to be a warrior in a heel hook or kimura, you risk your prime ending then and there, losing 1 year of your career healing with surgery and rehab, or more. the only fair apples to apples comparison are the times an mma fighter quit on the stool or wilted and covered up for the tko from strikes vs the times boxers quit on the stool or wilted and covered up or refused to get up for the tko.

  • @killerbee1579
    @killerbee15795 ай бұрын

    I’ve been watching mma consistently since ufc 115 in 2010 and I still feel like a casual sometimes lol

  • @thevibestation5174
    @thevibestation51745 ай бұрын

    You can’t be mad at us for keeping our hopes up!

  • @AnimeandDance
    @AnimeandDance5 ай бұрын

    Lucas Tracy coming for Bedtime’s p4p best PowerPoint presenter skills with this one.

  • @johnritter9947
    @johnritter99475 ай бұрын

    Love this video. I saw the Stephen A - Rogan interaction again about 6 months ago and I was like damn Stephen A is a total goofball but he’s right

  • @smokeymos7000
    @smokeymos70005 ай бұрын

    Gotta give the shoulder strikes 100% credit for throwing cowboy off tho

  • @julianlouyer4182
    @julianlouyer41825 ай бұрын

    Each video is heard quieter than the previous one bro, turn that master volume waaaay up pls

  • @nikolastamenkovic5498
    @nikolastamenkovic54985 ай бұрын

    Asscream had his hip surgery after ufc, as casuals would not know

  • @optimusprimenikobelliclinc7507
    @optimusprimenikobelliclinc75073 ай бұрын

    “He would’ve been better off saying a prayer for Tony.” 😂

  • @brianland2944
    @brianland29445 ай бұрын

    You’re totally right

  • @ttm9227
    @ttm92275 ай бұрын

    I think if you’re arguing that tapping isn’t quitting you probably don’t actually understand the definition of submission, both in the actual sense and in combat sports. Submission literally means to accept or yield to a more powerful force or opponent

  • @MINI.ANIMALIST
    @MINI.ANIMALIST5 ай бұрын

    Now, that I agree with some of the points Lucas made. I wonder who are these "Casuals" and "Hardcore fans" he is referring about? And where or what forum can we refer these hot takes on? Hahaha.

  • @CRT4Dummies
    @CRT4Dummies5 ай бұрын

    I've never heard anyone say askren would have beaten masvidal if the knee didn't land. thats one of the most casual takes i've ever heard.

  • @eddododo
    @eddododo5 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah, good point man, definitely made more sense for Tony to go to hell week instead of developing literally any part of his game that could save him on the way out, or otherwise taking some time to reflect and realize it was over instead of doing some tough bullshit that made him feel like it wasn’t over.

  • @joshuabowen6919

    @joshuabowen6919

    5 ай бұрын

    Develop? His loss had nothing to do with skill. He is physically not good at all. Compared to years he moves like an old man.

  • @Philsfaninnc
    @Philsfaninnc5 ай бұрын

    Uncle Chael says every fighter that has ever been choked out, actually quit.

  • @JrFFoo
    @JrFFoo2 ай бұрын

    Former casual Current hardcore 👏

  • @kil0zwestin410
    @kil0zwestin4105 ай бұрын

    tapping is necessary at some point it can help save the fighters health

  • @dfdfdgggjhjjh5081
    @dfdfdgggjhjjh50815 ай бұрын

    I think Goggins is a bit silly, but when your fighter is 40 and getting his ass handed to him and has no shot to win, a really fired up speech going into the final round would be pretty awkward. Goggins would be good to have in your corner if its a very close fight and whoever takes the last round wins.

  • @theycallmediesel7458
    @theycallmediesel74585 ай бұрын

    Goggins had absolutely no buisness being in anyone's corner. My position on that will not change.

  • @Sicboyz-ku2wr
    @Sicboyz-ku2wr5 ай бұрын

    I think with cowboy is that, aside from the pressure of fighting Connor, he broke his nose in the first MINUTE of the fight, before he could get the adrenaline going and that probably shook him. With that said I agree that it's a fight and sometimes you wilt

  • @kimjongunmoresubsthant-ser2812
    @kimjongunmoresubsthant-ser28125 ай бұрын

    That’s why Luke Tracy is a casual

  • @lylemcdermott2566
    @lylemcdermott25665 ай бұрын

    Cue the videos of GSP and his corner men, Firas and Roach telling him to do X combos between rounds because they saw the opening was there and GSP execute it to perfection.

  • @dominoeffect4
    @dominoeffect45 ай бұрын

    Boxing is NOT dying! This year was its biggest year in years. Wtf are you talking about?

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