Two major reasons this song should've been kept: 1. It shows Scrooge's pain regarding this memory significantly better. The very fact he starts singing along with her lets the audience know how hurt he is by this and how he's been hanging on ever since it happened since he remembers the lyrics so effortlessly. 2. The ending song, The Love We Found, hits way harder since it's a reflection of this song and shows the peace Scrooge finally came to.

@NaomiDollxoxo

8 ай бұрын

Bingo!!!!!

@Birdhouseart

8 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@DoubleFoxtrot

7 ай бұрын

Also it’s just weird and jarring to have the muppets suddenly crying their eyes out just because somebody walked out of frame. (And I know they’re meant to be sad because the engagement’s been called off, but it just doesn’t have the same weight.)

@lkmblessedbyjesus2010

7 ай бұрын

100%. I was very upset to find this song missing in the new movie I bought to replace the original Muppet Christmas Carol that I once had. Loved this part of the movie.

@turntablethomas2584

7 ай бұрын

Probably the only instance where I chose fullscreen over widescreen on the dvd menu

It's so funny how they cut this scene because they thought younger audiences would have no interest and then it turned out to be the most iconic scene of the movie. It's been my favorite scene since I was a child

@manuelorozco7760

3 жыл бұрын

This is my first time watching

@lilMissmAlice

3 жыл бұрын

@VV4FF13Z Same... I finally watched a copy online because I've lost my ancient tape, and when this song didn't play it felt so wrong. I was 6 when this movie came out, and it taught me that Michael Caine is a BOSS. This scene was no small part of that, even then. I understood that "Goodbye forever" was a really sad thing, and it also proved he had a heart in there because I could see it breaking *again* for something from so long ago. As an adult - nobody can break your heart & keep you coming back to it like Paul Williams can

@hittsrus5185

2 жыл бұрын

@@lilMissmAlice I totally agree. This came out when I was 10 and it was the turning point for the whole movie. It was the time he appeared to actually be moved deeply by his past with regards to his present. Sure not all kids will like it. But not all of anybody likes everything. Kids are fully capable of recognizing the feeling and deep meaning of a scene even if they lack the life experience to fully empathize.

@gwynmorris5763

2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@bethanya99

2 жыл бұрын

7 year old me sobbed!

I was FURIOUS when they took this out of the movie. This is one of the most important character building scenes in the film and a dang beautiful song!

@8bitexplorer459

2 жыл бұрын

When I was a kid I would cry everytime, we had the original video release.

@strawberrygoldfish

2 жыл бұрын

@@8bitexplorer459 Same, we recorded it on VHS with a dozen other Christmas specials. I enjoy watching the clippets of old commercials.

@Dynamosouthernbelle7

2 жыл бұрын

They didn’t on-purpose remove it. They lost the actual film for it for about 20 years.

@strawberrygoldfish

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dynamosouthernbelle7 😢

@LaurenceQuint

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dynamosouthernbelle7 Uh, no it was cut out of the original movie on purpose.

When you have to pause the movie and come to KZread real quick to include this absolutely essential scene. See you next year!

@donnapoole607

7 ай бұрын

😂 I'm just doing that now 2023

@helenap8826

7 ай бұрын

Same. Until a version comes out with it back, I’ll add it myself every year

@rhvfd10

7 ай бұрын

My friends were quite confused when I went I paused Disney+ & opened youtube but it's required watching.

@ceijones73

7 ай бұрын

Lol so glad it's not just me 😂

@imamurfe

7 ай бұрын

Same, every year!

As someone who had a VHS version of this film with the song growing up, I was absolutely gutted when I found out it was cut from most later versions. I'll never understand it. This is one of the most powerful emotional moments in the film --- not to mention one of the most important moments in Scrooge's life. Not only does "The Love We've Found," not make sense without it, but this scene doesn't even really make sense either. He says, "I love you, Belle," she says, "You did once," and then leaves, and we see Rizzo crying. It's all very abrupt, and completely changes the feeling of the scene. A moment that's supposed to be heartbreaking and emotional just ends up feeling... chilly.

@jazminedwards9336

Жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely! I grew up with the vhs too

@isaacwall4951

Жыл бұрын

@@jazminedwards9336 I remember seeing that scene myself.

@jazminedwards9336

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacwall4951 and then I watched it on Disney+ and it was just GONE (Nsync's voices) 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️😭😭😭😭

@lauracrabb7169

Жыл бұрын

I read an article where Disney was pretending that this song was never in the movie and that they had recovered a brand new song that they were going to put into the story. These jerks really don’t think we remember things this profound and moving.

@natedoggg2002

Жыл бұрын

And the full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.

I’m so glad they found the negatives for this scene, because the film is lacking without it. When Ebenezer begins to sing with her, I lose it every time.

@kirbystarnino4199

2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping they would put it back in on Disney+ this year but sadly they didn't

@onemanfran

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirbystarnino4199 I was disappointed too, I thought it was ready in 2020 :(

@mrcritical6751

2 жыл бұрын

I heard they’re thinking about releasing it for the 30 year anniversary

@TheArch1v1st

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirbystarnino4199 it’s in the Extras section. I don’t know why it’s not edited back into the movie, but it’s there.

@natedoggg2002

Жыл бұрын

And the full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.

This was my ex wife and I's favorite movie and this song has so much more meaning now. I was basically Scrooge in that I chased the money instead of chasing family. When I finally realized what was actually important in life, it was too late. The love really was gone and I think about it all the time.

@zk6754

8 ай бұрын

Had to talk to my current to teach her to slow down…enjoy life. Stop focusing on money & START LIVING. I love her and don’t want her to have the same regrets I do.

They need to reinstate this Scene on Disney+ already!!!

@guitarsunplugged

3 жыл бұрын

Good news, they're working on it, in 4K!

@curtthegamer934

3 жыл бұрын

@@guitarsunplugged They're taking too long

@manuelorozco7760

3 жыл бұрын

@@guitarsunplugged Maybe i will wait to watch it next year

@MrGabeanator

3 жыл бұрын

ik

@shank8966

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtthegamer934 they only re found it 3 weeks ago it takes time

It's when Scrooge starts singing with her and breaks down that I lose it. Scrooge's regret and wishing he could have changed his past, but he can't. With this scene not in the original you lose a lot of the emotional weight of the second half of the movie.

@johnalbent

2 жыл бұрын

Madness that it was removed! I told somebody about it being removed because it was too sad and they said "TOO SAD?! Have they seen the ending to Toy Story 3?!"

@smashfanwii

2 жыл бұрын

"Bless us All" is literally an answer song to this. It carries a similar cadence and its placement in the present sequence correlates with this song in the past sequence. It balances out the movie!

@Irishjay_94

2 жыл бұрын

@@smashfanwii So true, as is the title in connection to this. Love is Gone here, and Love is Found at end, when Scrooge makes peace with things.

@jessimarim_m9387

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnalbent init!! And tiny Tim!? Like how was that not too sad and as a kid I loved that scene! But I always forwarded the Future scene cause it used to scare me and make me sad so they fucked up if thats the reason smh

@rextony22

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnalbent love is definitely gone

The redemption arc makes no sense without it. The Love is Gone is redeemed and becomes the Love we've found. The ending doesn't make sense without this

@RLDSecondChannel-gq7ne

4 ай бұрын

It's called when love is gone & when love is found

@AngryNerdBird

2 ай бұрын

It does! It's just lesser without it. :(

The greatest Christmas film of all time. Despite it being a muppets film, Michael Caine produces a masterclass and quite possibly the best version of scrooge.

@tmnt10000

7 ай бұрын

And what is wrong with it being a Muppets movie?

@geneticdisorder1900

7 ай бұрын

@@tmnt10000. Absolutely nothing, love this version !!!!

this scene was so perfect because it really shows Scrooge's character depth. You see young Scrooge leave so you assume "oh he must have never really loved her" THEN you see old Scrooge try to sing along as almost as if it's like an old song they shared as a couple and despite years of not hearing it, he does remember it. This indicates that he does remember Belle. He does remember loving her deeply and upon seeing his reaction, he does deeply regret letting her go

The scene that sticks with me and why I like this song is the moment Michael Caine steps in and sings in tears. I felt that sadness and regret he was showing

@trentstrickland3534

2 жыл бұрын

It's beautifully done on the level that the past Scrooge can't sing along, because this is just happening to him and he doesn't understand it. Whereas the older Scrooge not only understands it all too well, but he's probably subconsciously relived this moment endless times.

Just now when she sang, "yes some dreams come true, yes some dreams fall through" my entire body started tingling and I got goosebumps. I love this song.

@WoahThereNow

Жыл бұрын

That line with older Scrooge in the back breaking down while looking at her has ruined me since I was 6 years old. Even the parts as Belle’s singing, when he approaches her and she moves away from him, it rips my heart out. 😢

Watching this movie every Christmas has been a tradition in my family since I was a baby. When we realized they cut this song on Disneyplus (they hadn’t added the extended version yet) we paused it in horror and my dad said, “Oh, I’m writing a strongly worded letter to Disney.”

This scene shows why Scrooge turned out the way he did. All about lost love and bad choices and the regret you feel. Why he tried to ease his pain with wealth and hoarding because of his loss and emptiness he felt.

@natedoggg2002

Жыл бұрын

The full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.

@roycoombes7002

Жыл бұрын

@@natedoggg2002 I really hope so

@lisamurphy7028

Жыл бұрын

From commentary on Patrick Stewarts Christmas Carol: Here is a man who has turned to profit because he sincerely believes everyone and everything else will betray him...or leave him, the instant he trusts them. That is what 'humbug' literally means -pretending to a fake loftiness or false sincerity.

@skywolfx76

7 ай бұрын

"those who are heartless once cared too much"

Every time I watch this movie, at this scene, I pause, then come here to watch this song, then resume the movie It belongs in the movie, Disney!

@stephspoilsstuff

3 жыл бұрын

Just did that 😜

@stephenshelton4267

3 жыл бұрын

First off, my phone and possibly yours, allows casting the KZread video to a TV. It's obscenely easy: there's an icon at the top that lets you do it and it really works. I did that last night. I watched until this scene came up, paused my movie and cast this to my TV, then I resumed the movie. Also the original of this scene was finally discovered and a proper version should be released next year!

@stephspoilsstuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenshelton4267Not sure why you felt the need to correct us when that's literally what we said we did 🤔 I did hear about the finding of the footage, and I do agree that it is very exciting 😊

@stephenshelton4267

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephspoilsstuff I think the way I wrote it was aggressive for some reason and my point was lost. It wasn't my intent! The thing I was trying to convey is that it's really easy to pause the movie, send the scene to the TV you're already watching and then switch back. Jumping to KZread, or VHS like someone mentioned in another thread, can be a cumbersome process. In fact it was for me when I first played a digital version of the movie: I just played it off the tiny screen and speakers of my phone. This year I noticed that casting feature and it makes things so easy, but thankfully this will be the last year of it!

@stephspoilsstuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenshelton4267 I appreciate that 😊 streaming does make things much easier!

One of the most powerful scenes in the film. Some years ago, I broke up with a boyfriend and had been through a lot. When Christmas came, watching this scene beared more weight for me. Especially when Scrooge sings with her, full of regret. Somehow this scene to me has strong spiritual significance and I lose it every time.

@danieldavies3424

Жыл бұрын

Same

@punawelewele

Жыл бұрын

Same. This song has a power I am incapable of describing. The woman singing hits every note and emotion perfectly.

@victoriarose9090

Жыл бұрын

I know how this feels same here! :(

@zk6754

8 ай бұрын

Mom passed 1 week before Christmas in 09. Since then Christmas just seems…to be missing something. This year is different. I’ve been talking with someone that I’m head over heels for. The holidays actually feel more magical & warm because of her.

@timchristensen2522

7 ай бұрын

Similar story, and here in 2023, bawling like a baby. It's the "yes some dreams come true, and yes some dreams fall through, and yes, the time has come for us to say goodbye" that does it. If you've loved and lost, the last goodbye sticks. And the fact it sits in the middle of a Muppet joyfest like a fucking landmine just makes it all the more effective

I'm absolutely one of those '90s kids who would tune out when this part kicked in. When I was watching it for the first time on Disney+ and they just skipped over it completely, it felt SO wrong. We truly see Scrooge at his most vulnerable. And, most importantly, it is a very beautiful song that's sung incredibly well. It never fails to bring tears to my eyes when Scrooge joins in.

I'm thrilled that this scene is in glorious HD!! I wish Disney would splice this back into the film!

@megelizabeth9492

4 жыл бұрын

According to Brian Henson, they lost the original masters/negatives, so they only have VHS transfers, which were noticeably lower quality than the rest of the film, particularly in HD. www.bigissue.com/culture/why-is-the-best-part-of-the-muppet-christmas-carol-still-missing/

@Father_of_Death

4 жыл бұрын

@@megelizabeth9492 that's believable seeing as a majority of source material for "Hocus Pocus" does not appear on any releases.

@curtthegamer934

4 жыл бұрын

@@megelizabeth9492 But the scene is right here! They don't need the original negatives! They can download the scene from here and place it into the movie. Problem solved.

@megelizabeth9492

4 жыл бұрын

It’s still much lower quality than the rest of the movie would be.

@curtthegamer934

4 жыл бұрын

@@megelizabeth9492 I don't think anybody would care at this point. It's only for three minutes, and it's a temporary lowering of quality is a small price to pay.

I get it that they wanted to remove this thinking that kids wouldn't relate but A Christmas Carol is not a children's story. It's a classic and the story is focused on Scrooge's emotional transformation. This song helps us see this and children can have a couple minutes to contemplate emotions that they might not ordinarily. There are lots of other fun and upbeat moments, that's why this is a Muppets movie! Both sides can be there, that's why I always liked this movie (but I always saw it with this song!)

@christheleavittman7080

2 жыл бұрын

As Gonzo said, “it’s culture!”

@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj

2 жыл бұрын

I hated this part as a kid.

@teacherdoug1797

2 жыл бұрын

​@@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj You probably hated homework too, but it's good for you, so grownups made you do it. American shows have always dumbed down stuff way too much for audiences. Even adult ones. For me, this is in the category of character-building, and I will make my kids watch it every year haha.

@hunterolaughlin

2 жыл бұрын

@@christheleavittman7080 That exchange between Rizzo and Gonzo (Charles Dickens) definitely has meme potential right there) *Insert scary scene from random film or show* Rizzo: “*shudders* That’s scary stuff! Shouldn’t we be concerned about the kids in the audience?” Gonzo/Charles Dickens: “No, it’s alright. This is just culture.”

@cadefilms4072

Жыл бұрын

Then why is the movie G rated

This is is such a powerful moment. Scrooge spent his whole life remembering this as his fiance leaving him; but you can see when his younger self turns away he has this look of "what are you doing?" He finally sees what she sees, that he didn't care. So he does what he now believes he should have done, and he goes to stand with her.

As soon as Scrooge started crying, I started crying too! 😭

The older I get the heavier this song weighs on my heart. The lyrics are amazingly powerful. It makes me think of past loves that fell through and loved ones who aren't here anymore. I can't help but weep as I wonder if my heart might indeed implode this time.

This song literally gives me chills! And when Michael Caine cries I cry right along with him! I will always pause the movie and come here to view this beautiful missing scene

@themcgees6753

Жыл бұрын

I do the same...thats how I found your comment...Kindred spirit!

@HeatherReich-vd3fl

7 ай бұрын

why did they take it out!!!!

@Krissylavi

7 ай бұрын

@@HeatherReich-vd3fl I don’t know, it’s such an important scene and the actors do an amazing job! Their voices too!! I hope they put it back in

It's ashamed that they got rid of the song, but kept the reprise "The Love We Found" and the ending credits pop version.😔 This gives a much a reason for Rizzo to cry & it shows the heartbreak and regret in Scrooge's eyes.

2:43 is very good directing. You can clearly see young Scrooge is in a catch 22 situation. He had to choose what he most wanted: Belle or his money. And he simply choose money over his own domestic partner by walking away. The present day Scrooge has strongly implied to have remembered to what he had done after so many years and he breaks down in guilty for being selfish. And even though he redeemed nothing can ever heal the pain Scrooge caused himself. In other words he is left to live with for what he had done until he dies.

I feel fortunate to have grown up with this not being cut. I do admit it made me cry every time. As a musician it works so well musically. As an artist it works so well contextually and thematically it's a disservice to cut it and rob everyone of one of the most visceral points of the story. He let romantic love get away to focus on greed for money. This scene and song truly depicts heartbreak in hindsight. It should be learned through this as to avoid direct experience if possible. Plus it's just such an epic apex of writing and execution of music and cinema combined it's deeply a tragedy to have lost it on modern audiences. I think they just thought it was too heavy for kids but in a world where maturity equals violence it's a welcome yet subtle peek into adulthood that can advantageously be appreciated.

@NikKaussFlies

4 ай бұрын

I could not agree more. I loved this song so much as a child. I decided to show my partner the film and when we watched I was couldn't believe it wasn't there.

@boneappletea3858

4 ай бұрын

@NikKaussFlies ikr. Same with me and mine. Just not there. To me, and to a degree, that's the emotional crescendo of the movie next to the end parts. It's like taking the bridge of a song out. A great one. It works but it's really missing something important. To me anyway.

For years I’ve thought that the 1951 portrayal of Scrooge by Alistair Sim was the definitive portrayal of the character, but as I’ve got older, I feel that this performance by Michael Caine is every bit as good, if not better.

@nighthawksview.2380

2 жыл бұрын

There have been several scrooges the only ones I know of is Reginald Owen, Alistair Sim, Sir Patrick Stewart, Bill Murray, Michael Caine, and Jim Carrey these are the only scrooges I know of there was another scrooge that would be number seven on my list but I couldn't remember the actors name so I'll have to keep this information as it is until further notice

@nighthawksview.2380

2 жыл бұрын

George C. Scott he's scrooge number seven on my list anyway that's all

@01Sharondun

2 жыл бұрын

Also, Albert Finney!

@nighthawksview.2380

2 жыл бұрын

@@01Sharondun that's now scrooge number eight on the list

@01Sharondun

2 жыл бұрын

@@nighthawksview.2380 Glad to help!!

I never knew this was in it. Oh my makes the story full. Should be put back in. Beautiful. Now we know why Scrooge is the way he is.

@rae-raetheturtledemon.

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@wendym1234

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. A heartbreak of a lost love, which is why he had trouble expressing love again.

This song was pivotal to understanding why Scrooge became the way he was. It should never have been removed, wish they would reintroduce it!

@ChristopherPin

8 ай бұрын

Do you have disney plus?

@tettyfelarious2304

8 ай бұрын

@@ChristopherPin is the full version on there?!

@ChristopherPin

8 ай бұрын

@@tettyfelarious2304 yes it is, if you go on bonuses on the muppets christmas carol you can watch the full movie there 😊

@davidhabert

7 ай бұрын

I recently went to see Muppet Christmas Carol with the song and this scene intact at an Odeon Cinema in England. If you hurry, you may still be able to see it.

@ChristopherPin

7 ай бұрын

@@tettyfelarious2304 yes it is, sorry for the late reply, if you go into the extras of the movie the full version is there

Not only is the song powerful, but the acting from everyone (not just Michael Caine) was frankly phenominal...at least I think so... The look she gives him near the start of the song where her body leans away but her head leans towards like she's talking herself into this course despite the pain...his continued gestures of affection growing more and more halfhearted as understanding dawns...seeing him turn back -- even when blurry -- for one last look before walking away... Hell, even the bridge! She comes onto the bridge from one direction with Young Scrooge on the left side, and Michael Caine's Scrooge approaches from the right and NEVER crosses the bridge because he can't go backwards in life to a time where this mistake could be fixed...It's all amazing

@MehIgotnothing

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! This is a beautiful scene on so many levels because of the subtle shifts and movements. Every time young Scrooge comes near Belle she lets him get almost to her only to move and keep walking forward.

@JennyG.COW5

Жыл бұрын

Hadn't put the bridge symbolism together, but you're right! 😶 Great catch! 👍

@stoogefest16

Жыл бұрын

You broke it all down very well.

@Sentient_Zee

Жыл бұрын

I’d also point out that when Old Scrooge sings along with Belle, it’s because he NEVER forgot that day and what she said(sang).

@smittyman0722

Жыл бұрын

Bravo. I couldn't have said it better.

This scene shows that his heart wasn't always cold but he became obsessed with wealth, wich cost him the woman he loved

This is such a pivotal scene (like literally, it's the emotional pivot of the film imo) that it's wild to me that they cut it. I'm so glad it's being restored. The last verse definitely pops into my head every couple of months and I find myself coming to KZread to rewatch it.

Finally!! An HD widescreen version of the song; the Blu-Ray uses only the theatrical edit in widescreen.

This was my favorite Christmas movie as a child and still is 25 years later. I can’t explain how every year I watch this movie the sadder it gets for me. Even as a kid I felt the hurt but didn’t fully understand why. This movie taught us about heartbreak at a young age and it’s stuck with me. I’ve had a Belle in my life and I’m still hurt from it and trying to shake it but it feels impossible. I know it’s pathetic because it’s the Muppets, but the song and scene in this movie is so powerful I’m amazed not many people know about it.

There was a time when I was sure That you and I were truly one That our future was forever And would never come undone And we came so close to being close And though you cared for me There's distance in your eyes tonight So we're not meant to be The love is gone The love is gone The sweetest dream That we have ever known The love is gone The love is gone I wish you well But I must leave you now alone There comes a moment in your life Like a window and you see Your future there before you And how perfect life can be But adventure calls with unknown voices Pulling you away Be careful or you may regret The choice you make someday When love is gone When love is gone The sweetest dream That we have ever known When love is gone When love is gone I wish you well But I must leave you now alone [BELLE and OLD SCROOGE] It was almost love It was almost always It was like a fairytale we'd live out You and I And yes some dreams come true And yes some dreams fall through [BELLE] And yes the time has come for us to say goodbye Yes some dreams come true Yes some dreams fall through And yes the time has come for us to say goodbye

We all know that somewhere out there, there’s a fanfiction where Scrooge reunites with an elderly belle.

@juliamazonidasilvapereira4327

2 жыл бұрын

If not there will be soon. Maybe someone is writing right now as we speak👀

@LaneCorbett

2 жыл бұрын

Someone should Rewrite it but without the message and character development

@lcmc4846

2 жыл бұрын

@@juliamazonidasilvapereira4327 is it you? ....

@juliamazonidasilvapereira4327

2 жыл бұрын

@@lcmc4846 Who knows? hahaha just kidding, I've never written a fanfiction before. Maybe someday

@lcmc4846

2 жыл бұрын

@@juliamazonidasilvapereira4327 me neither or read it. You start it I’ll finish it. 😆

Ebenezer singing with Belle and breaking down never fails to bring a tear to the eye but what hurts as well is Rizzo is almost inconsolable and Charles Dickens' (Gonzo's) soft "Oh Rizzo" while he hugs his friend tightly shows that we the audience (with Rizzo as the audience surrogate) are changing our perspective on the "unpleasant fella" we met in the beginning

Just like Rizzo, I cried just as much too.

Glad I have the vhs from the 90s so I can watch in peace. I still know all the words. #38 🧡

the scene gets sadder when you realize that the romantic lit background is actually the sunset. truly an excellent movie

Did not know this scene was cut. I still own the original VHS and this defined the entire movie for me as a child. I felt Scrooge's pain when he sang along. Children are innocent and ignorant to things but not stupid, i absolutely understood this scene as a child.

I'll never get this being cut out of the film, considering how much it emphasises how Scrooge went wrong and is hurt inside by regret over his past choices, and shows that When Love Is Found is a reprisal of the song later in the film with a positive outcome. Hell, the makers didn't have any problem with Martina McBride doing a version of When Love Is Gone for the end credits - why cut _this_ version out? Mind you, as powerful as this song and scene is, I have to ask - why the hell is Belle SMILING throughout when this is supposed to be heartbreaking?!

@cater06

2 жыл бұрын

Because Belle is making a choice she isn't going to regret. She said her goodbyes to an engagement that wasn't never going to become a marriage, a fiance that continues to make empty promises, an unhappy life with no future.

@ryanodonovan9497

2 жыл бұрын

@@cater06 I never thought of it that way - good answer.

@laguna4life

2 жыл бұрын

My honest opinion is that it may be partly that it finally may have been a relief that she felt the closure she needed, but also she could still remember some of the happier parts of the relationship that newer love can bring, despite the end of it.

When I was a kid, I used to fast forward through this song because I thought it was slow and boring and didnt have much to do with the Muppets. Now 37, I listen to this song and reflection of my own life and the loves I miss so much. It reminds me of the mistakes I made in the past and how to better myself when it comes to someone I love. GO AFTER HER!!! GO AFTER HER!!!! I would have shouted!!! We all have that first love that got away and wish we could have again, but alas he or she chose someone else. That's what hurts the most when youre an adult

This scene is so heartbreaking. It gets me everytime. You can see Scrooge starting to change in Michael Caine's expression. The melody is extremely similar to the love we found. As a musician I adore simple songs like this , they pack such a powerful emotional punch

You can really feel the regret he was keeping locked inside him all that time. It's amazing how a Muppet movie can have such good dramatic acting. Kudos to Michael Caine.

I love how when Scrooge tires to hold Belle, she walks away from him, as if telling him not to touch her, how she’s done with him.

I'm imagining being an actress and singing a whole song while Michael Caine is crying behind me.

@lcmc4846

2 жыл бұрын

Then they cut it out the movie :(

@teacherdoug1797

2 жыл бұрын

@@lcmc4846 They put it back in the original home version. I saw it as a kid.

@lcmc4846

2 жыл бұрын

@@teacherdoug1797 I watched it other week on Disney and it wasn’t on it.... so lead me to my song search to make sure it was a real memory 😆

@jamessparkman6604

2 жыл бұрын

@@lcmc4846 On Disney+ well I have something to say about that how dare you you put that song in the film I mean now Nooooooooooow

@natedoggg2002

Жыл бұрын

@@lcmc4846 The full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.

They slept on this song and scene, but it made the movie for me 🥺

Absolutely horrified when they cut this song from this timeless classic. Only reason I keep my VHS player is to watch this scene in the film where it belongs. Without this beautiful song this scene seems so rushed and unimportant when this is a huge turning point in Scrooge's development.

Saw this on the big screen..........CRIED.

I'm so thankful they finally added this to a version on Disney Plus, so the people who never knew this song can finally experience it.

@AtlasBlizzard

11 ай бұрын

They did? I watched this movie last Christmas and it wasn't on there.

@BlackStar66685

10 ай бұрын

It's not in the Disney+ version. Mum and I just watched it not too long ago, and I was furious 🤬 that the song got cut out.

@cadefilms4072

8 ай бұрын

The song isn’t actually in the movie on Disney+ But it’s still on there

@VioletaWestford

8 ай бұрын

I watched it just today on Disney + and unfortunately this scene is not on there. They cut it out. 😢😢 I’m soo upset they did. I watched this since I was a little girl. I’m 35 now. May you rest in peace Jim Henson. Thank you for the movies you made!!

@KermitArchive

8 ай бұрын

​@@VioletaWestfordgo to the extras

I’m watching muppet Christmas Carol on Disney+ and had to pause it to watch this scene because Disney still haven’t added it back! It’s the most poignant scene in the whole movie and was my favourite as a child.

They should’ve never have cut this song out cause it softly introduces emotions to children and what are children who don’t know how to handle/understand their emotions 😰 this will always be a part of the movie imho

This scene is the emotional core of the whole film and they still haven't put it back in! It's infuriating.

A while ago, I saw this in the cinema for one of those seasonal movie showings for Christmas. I was pleasantly surprised when this scene came up, its good to see this scene back in the film where it belongs

I never saw the film with the song included, I never even knew it existed until I discovered the scene a few years back on YT. But even without knowing there was a song cut, I always found the transition weird. She just says "you did once" and then leaves. No explanation, no goodbye, no emotion, nothing. It made Rizzo's sudden burst into tears over something as trivial and unemotional as that seem all the more exaggerated. I always found it strange that a movie that's so well-constructed would give so little thought to the most important part of the story... the break-up of Scrooge and Belle. Turns out it DID give the scene a lot of thought. I can see some people finding this song boring, it's definitely not in the same style as the rest of the movie. But even so, it's essential in my view. So essential, that it was missed without even knowing it existed. Very good that they found it!

@3000KJH

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. And hopefully they will put this right with the 30th anniversary 4K/Blu-ray release.

@thomashuffman3237

7 ай бұрын

@@3000KJHit’s in the extended version on Disney +.

@thomashuffman3237

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, the scene makes more sense with the song in it. With Scrooge saying “I love you, Belle”, and Belle saying “ you did once” without her transitioning to the song, it comes off more as just her saying “🤬 you.” And walking away. It’d be like if in Bambi, they showed the clip of Bambi and his mom eating the new spring grass, and just cutting straight to the part where the Great Prince says “your mother can’t be with you anymore”. Or if in The Lion King, if the gorge scene started with Scar tricking Simba about the quote-on-quote “surprise” and then just cutting away to him telling Simba to run away. But, with the song included, this gives this scene the emotional punch it’s supposed to have, especially given that a major part of the story of A Christmas Carol is that the pain of Scrooge’s breakup with Belle played a big part in turning him into a stingy cheapskate.

This scene is such a beautiful one, and it helps you to understand Michael Caine's Ebenezer so much more. I really wish they had kept it in

This beautiful song sells Rizzo’s cry at the end a lot more

Scrooge: Spirit show me no more. Why do you delight in torturing me? Spirit: I told you these are the shadows of things that have been. That they are what they are, do not blame me! Scrooge: Leave me!

This song has no business being so powerful in a Muppet movie, but I was devastated when it was cut. So glad you can see it in the movie if you go to the special features!

every time i hear this song i always break down crying what a sweet song

I watched this movie a million times as a kid and this song and scene was one of my favorites in the movie.

Such a beautiful woman with a lovely voice. I hate that it's cut out.

@paulmacartney8266

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. This beautiful deserved so much better from Scrooge.

Who else is opening this video in the middle of the movie since Disney decided to scrub this song from all modern versions of it, for some reason?

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

Me

@TripleSMoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackswan4486 respect. Apparently there's another release coming out that finally restores it? Thank God.

@audreyturner2983

2 жыл бұрын

Me

thank you. I have the movie on dvd but every time I watch it I have to pause and come to youtube to insert this heartbreaking, beautiful missing scene...

I remember being little and absolutely heartbroken at this scene even though I didn't fully understand why they weren't together I sobbed my little heart out...and maybe still do.

Thank you so much for uploading this in HD! It's ridiculous the Disney+ version is missing this scene after all these years

@carolineayan197

4 жыл бұрын

Disney Plus has this song as a extra

@SlootyBooty

4 жыл бұрын

I am watching it right now on Disney plus and flipped shit when I realized they cut this song! It is my favorite scene and my favorite song in the movie. It used to make me cry even as a kid so I was fully prepared with tissues on hand for the tears to start flowing...just to see they went from her walking away to Rizzo crying on Gonzo's shoulder, skipping this entire song and scene. Honestly it makes me want to get rid of Disney Plus if they're gonna cut entire scenes from classics for ANY reason. This scene was my main reason of wanting to watch the movie. It's the scene I remembered best of all next to the Marley's song.

@scottishjedi1522

3 жыл бұрын

The problem was Disney cut it from the theatrical version but included it in the VHS release, then lost the negatives that contained the scene, meaning they could never properly upscale and restore it to match the rest of the film. Luckily, after over 20 years, someone found the negatives! So they’re up scaling the film to 4K and when it’s done it’ll be on the Disney + version.

@bozobergfun4340

3 жыл бұрын

I heard when Disney bought out Jim Henson they decided it was an unneeded scene and kids wouldnt watch it....I dunno, but all i know is the version without it needs to be erased from history and the WHOLE movie needs to be reinstated. I was so mad when I bought it years back on amazon video. Even though it was a digital copy they gave me my money back and just took away my watching rights, so that was good. But yeah, this scene gives all the feels and makes the final song more meaning. Very thankful for this video on here.

@manuelorozco7760

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottishjedi1522 It was never shown on HBO either

So glad this scene is getting the revival it deserves !

This scene came up in the GCSE exam this morning. The question the students had to write an essay on was based on how Dickens shows the way that greed spoils things for people. Oh my word, how I would love to have a go at that, given this song to help me picture the emotion of the scene and then write about the content and context. Bravo AQA.

Scrooge was selfish and evil most of his adult life, but deep down he never recovered from the heartbreak.

I have good news! I own a dvd version with this scene intact and upon curiosity tonight I found more copies on Ebay. It's the 50th anniversary edition and it has a white case. You're welcome!

This completely set the stage for his grief and how he becomes cold. It’s a total sham it was left out

The movie is incomplete without this song.

A whole generation will never hear this song 😢 God bless the 90’s

@HauntFreak13

Жыл бұрын

This didn’t age well. Lol. It’s on Disney+

So Disney removed it for fear of it boring children and being too emotionally deep for children to hear... I mean it is depressing as fuck. But I do love it.

@manuelorozco7760

3 жыл бұрын

If i was a kid, i would not blame them

@incogneato6725

2 жыл бұрын

I think the removal happened before Disney owned Muppets.

This is the only Scrooge Christmas movie I like with the Muppets. It's the best one ever put out.

A total and utter mistake to remove from the film. We saw it at the cinema, laughed our asses off and cried at this bit. I've taught text about 10 times now and each time, I've missed being able to use this. It made no sense as the edit went to Rizzo crying from the previous scenes. Great to see it alive and well here. This is arguably 'the' single most important part of the reason why he goes so cold and becomes the right fisted, hand to the grindstone we all know him to be.

This is a true example of a movie that gets better as you get older. As a kid you love seeing the Muppets of course and Scrooge’s redemption. But as an adult, with experiences of your own, it hits you right where it hurts, and I love it.

I really do not understand the other comments but Thank you! Thank you ever so much for this scene! The moment Scrooge truly begins to change, is within this song. The end song even contains the same motif and they decided to cut it. That is very disappointing. Thank you for posting this

Our annual re-watch and we're pausing to watch this song

Should be a crime that this song was deleted.. I remember I brought the dvd like 3 years ago to watch with my kids for Christmas then it cut at the party and rizzo was crying for no reason.. Bah humbug

Justice at last. We finally have our widescreen cut of the film. First on Disney Plus, and with luck, all future home video releases. Fans: We did it!

@JaredGriffiths2000

Жыл бұрын

Oh right the full version is under extras. They should do that with Star Wars and have the original cuts of the films under extras on Disney+.

@jamiehale2552

2 жыл бұрын

It's on Disney + in the Extras section! I always pause the movie at that scene, then go to the extras to watch it, then back to the movie. A bit cumbersome but I have to watch that scene.

@audreyturner2983

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I always pause the movie before this scene and pull up this clip on my iPad so that I can see the complete movie. It’s not the same movie without this scene. Thank You So Much!!

@MehIgotnothing

2 жыл бұрын

Amazon's version is like that too. I need to bite the bullet and try to find a decent VCR so I can use my VHS next year.

Watched this movie the other night and was gutted to see this song taken out! It was one of the most important songs in the movie. Emotional even to my child self back then

when Scrooge touches Belle's shoulder and she walks away saying "I wish you well..." the look in both young and old Scrooge is quite telling. Such a good scene

Thank you for putting this online. This is my favorite Christmas movie and this cut really hurts. There was little reason for it. I am grateful it still exists somewhere. A bad call.

Thankfully I have the dvd with this on it. It's really a beautiful sad song.

This SONG!! Im watching the movie RN and have to pause ⏯️ it to hear this song/part. (I was only 7 when my dad took me to see this movie in the theaters and I've never forgotten the song) thank God for being able watch it on KZread.

It is just so insane how this was not there for so long, because it's such a beautiful song and scene

This song alone really demonstrates how scrooge became so angry and bitter all these years. Initially he of course already started to become "another man" causing his breakup, and then the breakup itself consumed him with regret and disgust with himself for letting go of true love. When he cries at the end of the song, it's really a turning point when he realizes he has wasted his entire life being alone.

I have to admit that as a kid I never fully realised the true meaning of this scene and the full emotional weight of it. I always fast forwarded it on my VHS tape because I thought it was so boring because it was a slow song. But now as an adult i can fully understand and appreciate the beauty of this scene. But more so I can appreciate the heartbreak that Scrooge shows and the pure regret for his past choices.... I am so sad they cut this from the film on Disney Plus... I truly appreciate it now amd can relate on a level I am also ashamed to admit... Thank you for uploading it.

It's such an iconic scene. They need to put it back

I'm a grown man 38 years old and this whole film makes me cry

Glad Disney put this back in... Now just move it from extras to the main movie...

What a shame they kept this out. Not only is it great for character building and provide context for the scene and why Scrooge is so heartbroken, it also provides a great bridge for the final song of the movie, "The Love We Found".

Before this, Meredith Braun was one of the original Eponines in Les Mis, meaning she's two for two on *making me weep like a baby.*

The scene simply does not even work without this song. Nor the resolution in the “the Love We Found.”

Its finally being added to the 4k release!!!!

@ArtBoy54Productions

3 жыл бұрын

F I N A L L Y

@girlnamedblake4885

3 жыл бұрын

Omg for real?! I will buy it!

@stephenshelton4267

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It was earlier in the month that it was announced that the scene was found and being restored to the film. It was questionable if it would be on Disney+ this year but it's to be put into the 4K version of the film. Hopefully next -holiday- Christmas it will be on a new blu-ray release.

@pattiwalker2602

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenshelton4267 WHAAAAT??? Is this really true? I, a grown woman, am actually crying right now I am so hopeful and excited. My husband thinks I'm insane for being so obsessed with this scene but it changes the trajectory of the entire story! I have been watching and crying during this song since I was 5 years old (my age in 1992, lol). I have been trolling the internet for YEARS for pointers on getting a version with the song back and even bought a DVD other reviewers insisted had the song just to be sorely disappointed.

@stephenshelton4267

2 жыл бұрын

@@pattiwalker2602 I agree, its a critical part of the story and yes they announced its discovery about a year ago. A couple months ago I checked Amazon for an updated version of the film and didn't see anything yet.