When GT was Better Than Z: Dragon Ball's Perfect Sequel (A Hero's Legacy)

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  • @alchemistofsteel8099
    @alchemistofsteel8099 Жыл бұрын

    I like how GT added a sense of finality. Super feels like it can go on forever because its monthly

  • @whitewolf3051

    @whitewolf3051

    Жыл бұрын

    Toriyama dropped the ball by making the sequel, Super, about most of the legacy characters like Goku and Vegeta getting stronger. It *would've* been better *if* he passed the torch to the next generation and the story be about adventure, one that would come to a close eventually.

  • @StareachValcin
    @StareachValcin Жыл бұрын

    Dragonball GT is better than people give it credit for, even though it does have its problems. It at least has less continuity issues than Dragonball Super by far. Dragonball GT a hero's legacy was a good epilogue for Dragonball in general.

  • @stephaniepage4334

    @stephaniepage4334

    Жыл бұрын

    I agreed

  • @unknowngoan0474

    @unknowngoan0474

    10 ай бұрын

    Can u tell how to watch this movie

  • @sixthjayhawk
    @sixthjayhawk Жыл бұрын

    I’ve always had a bit of a soft spot for GT. There are a few plot points I enjoy and I love the look and execution of SSJ4. It also always felt a bit more like a spiritual successor to the original DB than DBZ, and appreciated how the creators tried to tie the whole saga together that way.

  • @emilianodiaz641

    @emilianodiaz641

    Жыл бұрын

    I always thought if GT was redone the right way, it would have been an epic sequel to Z.

  • @powerjolt7215

    @powerjolt7215

    Жыл бұрын

    @Emiliano Diaz GT done the right way could've even surpassed Z. Looking at the arcs simplified, you have: Traversing space. The whole galaxy. Facing a parasite that has a grudge against your species. Hell opening up. The consequences of your actions. Every arc really has that "your past coming back to bite you". Goku becomes a kid the first saga and it resets him a bit, he's wished to be a kid busy enemies he beat long ago. Baby wants revenge for what the saiyans did to him and Vegeta/Goku are keeping Saif race alive. Super 17 is meant to be the ultimate revenge machine to finally get back at Goku for what he did as a kid. The Shadow dragons is self explanatory. I actually have a good idea for a whole GT rewrite that gives a little something for everyone.

  • @heyitslilah447
    @heyitslilah447 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never watched the GT series, but the ending with Goku Jr. going off to get the dragon balls to wish his grandmother Pan back to good health? Ahh… my heart…. I grew up with DragonBall the series and absolutely LOVED the story driven anime.. so when Toonami started airing Dragon Ball Z, I enjoyed it for a while but then fell off because it lacked the DragonBall charm I fell in love with. So the ending to GT would have been such a beautiful nod to the humble beginnings of DragonBall

  • @IlRecensoreDelirante
    @IlRecensoreDelirante Жыл бұрын

    To be exact, GT is staged five years after Z. The famous "ten years" went out from some american spot or directly from USA FUN animation version (or something like that), but in the original japanese series, it is not said how much time is passed from Z, but in the officials guide books of GT ("Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files") is specified that are passed 5 years. The last episode of GT is in fact staged 40 years after the first encounter between Bulma and Goku.

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh neat :)

  • @hyperdark06

    @hyperdark06

    Жыл бұрын

    well it wasnt a famous spot it is ten years after buu then another five following gt

  • @DannyLuxray
    @DannyLuxray Жыл бұрын

    All the great points you mentioned in this video are exactly why I like Dragonball more than the Z portion, I enjoy them both but the simplicity of a boy on an adventure to better him himself while getting stronger was perfect nothing felt excessive of overdone and its conclusion to that part of the story was great as well

  • @samyakchhajed
    @samyakchhajed Жыл бұрын

    Gt plays as the perfect sequel. It gave me the feeling of real Dragon Ball which I loved. We don't need characters just going stronger and stronger and fighting episode after episode. We just want to see them live and enjoy their adventures!

  • @SamTheGumMan117
    @SamTheGumMan117 Жыл бұрын

    As far as GT goes I love the opening and the idea of black star dragon balls since they abused them so much turning into monsters themselves plus Baby was awesome along with my favorite transformation Ssj4 but Heros legacy is fun

  • @justinarzola4584

    @justinarzola4584

    Жыл бұрын

    Gt was flawed but it at least understood some of what made dragon ball great in it's prime unlike super which is mostly just fan service without build up.

  • @dragoncross42
    @dragoncross42 Жыл бұрын

    I really liked the GT anime it sometimes gave me vibes of the original DB in its search for the dragon balls which really made me feel happy to see a journey and its comedic moments for the dragon ball like the old day. I think I would have loved to see Goku Jr go on his own hero's journey and find the dragon ball on his own as Goku did. Really nice video Axel it made me remember GT and how Dragon ball was a story, you made some good points that made me think about the series again.

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

  • @pn2294

    @pn2294

    Жыл бұрын

    Sadly that’s the thing that people disliked about the series

  • @thedatabasement
    @thedatabasement8 ай бұрын

    You didn't mention it here, but I've always loved how GT found a coherent way to introduce the movies into canon. I think Super 17 is the most overhated saga in all of Dragon Ball

  • @bloomin9088
    @bloomin908810 ай бұрын

    I feel like a proper, canonical, good db sequel series would need to take the best of both GT and Super. The best of GT’s thematic story (mainly super baby arc, the concept of the shadow dragons saga and the ending) and Super’s thematic fighting (Zamasu’s hypocrite reason for erasing mortals, Vegeta vs Cabba, and like all of the tournament of power)

  • @BrotherMag
    @BrotherMag Жыл бұрын

    Pan and Trunks deserved better than GT. So did Uub.

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    we all did 😂

  • @StareachValcin

    @StareachValcin

    Жыл бұрын

    Uub definitely deserved better, but Trunks and especially Pan had their good moments. Pan pretty much playing an important role in Goku becoming Super Saiyan 4 is proof that she did have a role in GT.

  • @kylesagendorf

    @kylesagendorf

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed but all the side characters are like that in dragon ball sadly. I still miss eighter

  • @TheGreatDevlin
    @TheGreatDevlin Жыл бұрын

    Ugh... I've gotten to the age where I've started to forgive GT. And this video furthers that. Regardless, good job!!

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks dexx! Glad you enjoyed :)

  • @user-nl1yp6pu1n
    @user-nl1yp6pu1n Жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy this channel exists

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks friend :) it makes me truly grateful that you enjoy it

  • @anime_world6684
    @anime_world6684 Жыл бұрын

    Uub was supposed to be the protector of earth and goku final challenge after goku had his fun uub the next generation can take his place it was a everyone is happy moment

  • @DiestroCorleone
    @DiestroCorleone5 ай бұрын

    All I know is that Dan Dan brings me to tears everytime. I listen to it, and there's a physical/psicological response from my brain that reminds me of that ending scene. People might hate it, but it was my Dragon Ball Z sequel, and holds a place in my heart.

  • @neotakehaya
    @neotakehaya Жыл бұрын

    This was a pretty great video Axel, though flawed, I personally liked GT, and A Hero’s Legacy was great as well. If we had ended with that and it had even cannon, I personally think Dragon Ball would’ve had one of the most perfect endings in shonen

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed friend!

  • @Illvsive
    @Illvsive Жыл бұрын

    Kinda salty you didn't add the para para brothers rap dance but I'm glad you touched on Goku Jr. That was such a great scene. Love ya. Signed, your greatest admirer

  • @Vulpas
    @Vulpas Жыл бұрын

    I misread the title as "GT was better than Z" and was like "bro I can only take my GT apologia so far" 😂

  • @NeonSake13
    @NeonSake13 Жыл бұрын

    Awww man this was such a throwback. Dragon Ball / Dragon Ball Z was my fave as a kid. It was so hard to find where to watch it that I had to watch it on german TV (we didn't have it in Romania) Still have a crush on Trunks :))

  • @UnifiedEntity
    @UnifiedEntity Жыл бұрын

    Goku wasn't an idiot in GT. Literally a child in body only and not mind. Super made me realize that with how stupid Goku is. GT had great concepts, just needed way better execution and character usage. Fights weren't all that good either choreography wise but story wise they had some strong backing. Vegeta also is great in GT. No animosity. Willing to work with Goku and proposes fusion. He still will get mad at him but not in a "damn you, clown stay out of my way" but a funny banter kind of way.

  • @puppimin
    @puppimin Жыл бұрын

    Remember when going super saiyan was this great legend...holy shit did that change. But loved the video

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    it's been a looong time since then lol thanks for watching pup :)

  • @Illvsive

    @Illvsive

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Puppi.

  • @puppimin

    @puppimin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Illvsive Yerrrrrrr

  • @justinarzola4584

    @justinarzola4584

    Жыл бұрын

    I miss when super says in was built up and not forced.

  • @MrStefanops
    @MrStefanops Жыл бұрын

    GT had some great ideas like Baby and SSJ4 (honestly a much better/cooler transformation than the gods forms) but bad execution

  • @__sofiane__
    @__sofiane__ Жыл бұрын

    Great vid man ❤

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video and keep up the great work guy

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks friend :)

  • @SpinDoctor147
    @SpinDoctor147 Жыл бұрын

    Having just finished DBZ kakarot, it really makes you realize that dbz is the story of gohan.

  • @impackmusiq5236
    @impackmusiq5236 Жыл бұрын

    My head canon is that pan and the fat kid did die the og goku just brought them back to life since goku is the dragon balls he can do anything

  • @soundfonts8215
    @soundfonts8215 Жыл бұрын

    I had this in DVD and loved rewatching it over and over. Really wished they followed up on Goku jr. adventures

  • @GoInGcRz
    @GoInGcRz Жыл бұрын

    I also had a big problem with Descendent Goku not knowing Descendent Vegeta. There is absolutely ZERO chance that Vegeta wouldn't still be around, or that Pan wouldn't be well aquainted with him and the Capsule Corp family.

  • @hyperdark06

    @hyperdark06

    Жыл бұрын

    well the son and briefs families kinda went their separate ways

  • @GoInGcRz

    @GoInGcRz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hyperdark06 Could you elaborate?

  • @hyperdark06

    @hyperdark06

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GoInGcRz well over the years the son and brief's families drifted apart over the generations sure pan and bra keeps in touch but their descendants not so much

  • @hyperdark06

    @hyperdark06

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GoInGcRz well over the years the son's and briefs families drifted away in the generations pass sure pan and bra kept in touch but their grand kids and kids kid not so much

  • @wreday720

    @wreday720

    Жыл бұрын

    If its 100 years later, Vegeta is definitely dead. But you're right, really weird that Pan didnt keep in contact with the Briefs

  • @arghyabandyopadhyay1991
    @arghyabandyopadhyay1991 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful review. As of the end , I'll give you an explanation. At the end of GT , where Goku supposedly ascended to a supernatural figure , winning the fight and kind of becoming one with Shenron and the Dragonballs . It's possible that Goku healed a near dead Pan and revived Puck with his supposed omnipotency. I believe the makers did this and IMO did the right thing because killing of the 2 characters , after the meeting with Goku will make it really morbid and people won't like the film as much as they do .

  • @Nameless82284

    @Nameless82284

    10 ай бұрын

    I heard that too. I'm sure Goku is not allowed to do that but he decided to help Goku Jr. because he is his great-grandson and Goku Jr didn't know that he needed all seven Dragon Balls.

  • @hyperdark06
    @hyperdark06 Жыл бұрын

    i loved gt and goku jr's story

  • @jamestonbellajo
    @jamestonbellajo4 ай бұрын

    Came here after the death of Akira Toriyama. RIP. A Hero’s Legacy really felt like something he could’ve created because it had so much of what made the original Dragon Ball special like you said. GT also had that but people seemed to have forgotten about the original Dragon Ball by then and just wanted to see muscly dudes fighting each other like they got in Z.

  • @lopezenrique750
    @lopezenrique7508 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @OmgRae979
    @OmgRae9792 ай бұрын

    Oh man, having to come back to this after the death of Akira Toriyama I’m happy that you touch base on this axle

  • @lucinae8510
    @lucinae8510 Жыл бұрын

    I vividly remember many parts of Dragon Ball when I was only 6. I couldn't place the events of the story in order (often because I was watching the non-canon movies), but could at least tell what the characters were feeling and why they were fighting. GT is the part of the franchise that I couldn't remember anything about, except Super Saiyan 4 which is still iconic in my mind. I didn't try to research the timeline whenever I felt nostalgic for the series, and hesitated to watch Super. I've seen realised it was because I couldn't what the themes of the series. Yes people love the series because of the cool fighting and character designs, but they fought because they had a reason to do it. Whether it was to save their loved ones, the world or because Goku cried too much as a child, every character felt palpable to me despite how unrealistic their strength and fights were. So this is why GT and Super failed to carry on the legacy of the original and other shonen series were able to pick up the pieces. They understood the Hero's Journey is about having your protaganist start at a disadvantage, but slowly they learn to develop themselves through training and character development. And by the time the journey is over the adversary is gone, you either end the story there or you let the new generation take over. Z started to do that with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Pan, but in the end they decided to play it safe and go back to the character fans loved. GT took it even further, making Goku young again to try remake the magic from scratch or develop the next generation if it works out. But in the end, they just return to the status quo of making Goku stronger and everyone else sits on the sidelines. Super adds to the lore that was another component of the series, but continues the trend with GT. Goku gets even more stronger, and the scenarios he's put in are just an excuse to bring even stronger adversaries for him to fight. This is only remedied by the now canon movies. The Broly movie not only brought the character into canon, but made him into a much better character that you grow to like. It ends with him not being defeated, and Goku starts to train him in a way that works a little better than the end of Z. The recent Super Hero movie was not only a great way to bring Dragon Ball back to its comedic roots, but focuses entirely on the next generation. Goku and Vegeta are doing their own things off world, while Piccolo tries to get Gohan to continue training for a scenario like this. He evens willingly puts Pan (who is happy to train and help Piccolo) in the hands of the villains to push Gohan. While he and Pan have their moments, its ultimately up to Gohan to go above his limits and save the world from a similar but stronger adversary. I LOVED what the story did for him and Pan. It proved that Goku can be taken out of the spotlight, and not only can the next generation pick up the pieces but can go through the Hero's Journey their own unique ways. I have only high hopes that the series will continue refining itself and show it and other shonen series are more than just cool fights and characters, they are at the end of the day good storytelling.

  • @abigailaceves9230
    @abigailaceves9230 Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back, Axelbeats! How’ve you been? It’s been a while since your Inuyasha & Yashahime Retrospective Analysis.

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Abi! i took a little time off to rest after that one aha, hope you enjoyed this :)

  • @abigailaceves9230

    @abigailaceves9230

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AxelBeats I sure did. And as disappointed & frustrated for how the Yashahime anime ended up being, I appreciate how well-made the manga version is & hope it goes on like that ‘till the end; the manga somehow eases my frustration about anime. Take care, Axebeats.

  • @karinavidal4882
    @karinavidal4882 Жыл бұрын

    I think this is the first video I have seen defending GT. I haven’t watched GT in years part of my childhood I may give it a chance to watch it

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    it isn't the best at all, but it has it's charm for sure! Just gotta get through the first bit aha

  • @justinarzola4584

    @justinarzola4584

    Жыл бұрын

    The first arc of gt is terrible but it picks up during the baby saga.

  • @user-vz8st7fc2d
    @user-vz8st7fc2d6 ай бұрын

    DRAGON BALL ended for me with Goku becoming the God and Guardian of the spheres, it's the perfect ending, it started with the spheres and ended with it. Perfect 👌.

  • @Acceler8or
    @Acceler8or Жыл бұрын

    What a surprise. Waking up to see a new video, moreover it’s dragon ball related.

  • @DJMichaelMcClain
    @DJMichaelMcClain Жыл бұрын

    It's quite surprising but I think the only one that I remember that I didn't realize was anime until later on with dragon Ball super I remember seeing that on cartoon Network late night television and what really got me interested later on in anime one awesome series I will say.

  • @DJMichaelMcClain

    @DJMichaelMcClain

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm just going to say it. if you only see dragon super like I did you would not think nothing wrong with the series. you think it just an awesome fighting series of people kicking other people's butt and that's kind of how I saw it. it wasn't until later on that kind of realized. it was a lot more to it than just that so if you kind of see it in my eyes that's why I think dragon Ball super was more awesome. than the rest I still kind of have that emotional feeling from the beginning.

  • @GohanMadriz
    @GohanMadriz7 ай бұрын

    Honestly these past few years I've been seeing people give Dragon ball GT the credit it deserves as a good dragon ball story, it honestly makes me super happy to see

  • @nicolewilliams2505
    @nicolewilliams2505 Жыл бұрын

    I have to agree with you 100% Axel. Great video. Hit me with a lot of soft spots myself. Tbh idc what anyone thinks I personally loved GT. I think when I was younger I didn’t only because I listened to other people’s opinions of it and after years of not watching it I re watched it again and fell in love. I loved the music and the adventure. I like it better than super that’s for sure. GT made sense because it was a continuation. I do wish it was canon but what can we do. Once again thank you for the great video as usual ❤

  • @stephaniepage4334
    @stephaniepage4334 Жыл бұрын

    Will goku jr parents have great potential because pan learn to fly at one years old if goku jr is Canon?

  • @OrangeStarHighSchool
    @OrangeStarHighSchool Жыл бұрын

    And GT is canon to the original timeline.

  • @shell7377

    @shell7377

    9 ай бұрын

    My point exactly about that kid in your other comment about super fan crazing it. Gt followed the timeline after z and kept good backgrounds and also featured others alot more rather than just Gohan being in Z from cell arc and part of buu saga. Super just focused on the power cravings of goku and the limits he can reach within each fight and didn't really have a motive on missions that comes across that turns into an adventure the way z and dragon ball did

  • @Bcamb480
    @Bcamb480 Жыл бұрын

    i never even heard of a heroes legacy, i'll have to check it out

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a fun one! Hope you enjoy :)

  • @johnnyjustice
    @johnnyjustice10 ай бұрын

    Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku is still the best Dragon Ball song ever. The series isn't canon but that song is!

  • @MrDarksol
    @MrDarksol Жыл бұрын

    GT I will always have my complaints about it, but like a friend said, I would rather watch GT then Super. Like yeah Super Saiyan God, SSB, UI and the whole multiverse thing is cool, but like I felt nothing for Super and even when we did get the Goku Black arc, even that fell apart after a certain moment. GT at least gave me Super Saiyan 4, which does feel like the natural evolution of a Saiyan, the Baby arc was fantastic and the Shadow Dragon arc while very much flawed, did give us some callbacks to OG Dragon Ball. To this day I still feel that the Cell arc was a great ending for the series in general........but then the Buu saga happened so I can't say that and we go back to Goku again. Nice job looking back on the GT special Axl!

  • @UnifiedEntity

    @UnifiedEntity

    Жыл бұрын

    All that god, ssb and ui shit isn't even that cool.

  • @MrDarksol

    @MrDarksol

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UnifiedEntity I'm saying it because that's how it was at the time until I realized I prefer super sayian 4 more.

  • @Juke11
    @Juke11 Жыл бұрын

    GT really wasn't the best imo it had some good ideas but pretty bad execution. If it were longer I think it'd be pretty good but I still love it nonetheless. The Dragon Ball series has a special place in my heart especially the GT opening

  • @JurassicGodzillaFan
    @JurassicGodzillaFan Жыл бұрын

    Though I'm personally not a big fan of Dragonball, but this was another well explained video analysis on a series like with Inuyasha. Good job.

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed friend

  • @epictom3423
    @epictom3423 Жыл бұрын

    Epic

  • @markramirezgatmaitancoachg6845
    @markramirezgatmaitancoachg684510 ай бұрын

    I'm crying i miss dragon ball GT 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @insanemakaioshin
    @insanemakaioshin Жыл бұрын

    5:30 - Roshi lied! Goku could've learned Hypnosis, Telepathy (King Kai taught him that), Thunder Shock Surprise, Drunken Fist, Cobra Twist, Shock Tornado & much more!

  • @Chimerayuri3
    @Chimerayuri3 Жыл бұрын

    i like Gt for what it is. i will say the soundtrack is one of the best the series has ever made. Also small nitpick its only 5 yrs later. 10 is the dub. Bulla drivimng a car at 8 with guys hitting her wouldnt fly but even then 13 is still pretty bad

  • @saiyanlives9872
    @saiyanlives9872 Жыл бұрын

    Is GT worth buying the boxset?

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a coin flip tbh lol if you love collecting dragonball stuff and it's in your budget though, then there's at least some cool stuff in there so I'd go for it

  • @saiyanlives9872

    @saiyanlives9872

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AxelBeats its pretty cheap yeah the UK version im from eu cost 49.99 for complete series of GT so about 50bucks usa , I kinda wanna collect all of db,dbz,gt,super and maybe movies too,do u own any of it?

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saiyanlives9872 for 50 bucks, i'd say that's a steal! Less than a dollar an episode aha and unfortunately i don't. I'm hoping to start collecting stuff more once things level out a bit for me :P

  • @craigyeah1052
    @craigyeah1052 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah A Hero's Legacy was good. This video's idea of Dragon Ball's themes also explains why I liked Goten so much as a kid. My mind naturally expected him to grow up strong and exceed Gohan and his dad, and he's probably the best representation of a kid acting like a kid in DBZ imo. Alas, that certainly didn't happen haha. An alternate universe where Gohan became the lead is interesting but a guy who prefers not to fight starring in an action shounen was not something Toriyama could make work haha.

  • @KonEl17
    @KonEl17 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure if how you were saying a hero legacy was the perfect ending 🤔 that movie takes place before episode 64 of GT. Where goku Jr fights vegeta Jr and they go SSJ

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    Not perfect, but I do prefer it over ep 64 and z's finale

  • @mayojar5264
    @mayojar5264 Жыл бұрын

    while gt used to be widely hated today in 2022 gt fan are everywhere, you don't even have to look you will find them without much effort. because they were always there just not as confident as they are today to openly say they like gt and I'm proud to be a gt fan, it's not as good as z but thats like asking for a terminator sequel to be as good as terminator 2. for me gt even though its only canon to the original dragon ball z anime (Japanese version of the final episode of z (which can only be found on the dragon boxes as far as I'm aware) has the next episode trailer for gt episode 1 and calls it the next adventure) it's still my sequel to the story. Gt may not be canon to the manga but it's my official continuation of the story.

  • @nullafongot6201
    @nullafongot6201 Жыл бұрын

    Gt for fans is the boruto for dbz

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    For a lot of people. But writing off a whole series and saying there is NOTHING good is kinda pointless imo. Everything has something to offer, and highlighting what people do right is a good thing I think

  • @squaddegenerate5000
    @squaddegenerate5000 Жыл бұрын

    So, basically, Goku kidnapped a child to punch at the end of Z and that’s all Uub exist for

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe goku goes to live in uubs village. So he adopts a family forcibly :)

  • @marocat4749
    @marocat4749 Жыл бұрын

    Its a shame that goku didnt stay ded, because else the passing of torch would have been great. With both gohan an pan in gt. And apearently he wanted more gohan hijinks. And like why cant vegeta, gohan and gotenks doing it alone. Like gohan and vegeta would make a fun odd couple. And pan could be a sup sayan thats female and be in center?!

  • @jpeckdraws3932
    @jpeckdraws3932 Жыл бұрын

    I've always been a gt fan ever sense it came out. I like that goku was still goku goku in super has regressed. I like super but gt has the dbz goku

  • @SullivanDLuffy
    @SullivanDLuffy Жыл бұрын

    I love Dragon Ball GT it's amazing

  • @SullivanDLuffy

    @SullivanDLuffy

    Жыл бұрын

    And I love the new Characters and I love Goku and Pan Relationship and I love how Goku become a kid it fits him

  • @whitewolf3051
    @whitewolf3051 Жыл бұрын

    It seems that Toriyama shouldn't be writing Dragonball Super, but a series that's more like this A Hero's Legacy from GT, or a better GT. Less powering up the legacy characters, and more passing the torch to newer generation.

  • @jbinfa7k
    @jbinfa7k3 ай бұрын

    Dragon Ball is good as long as it doesn't fight one boss in one combat that lasts dozens of episodes (weeks).

  • @etam8099
    @etam8099 Жыл бұрын

    the italian DB community, holds Hero's Legacy even closer, as that was the last time it's iconic dub for Goku played the voice of the iconic warrior, before passing away

  • @ordinerii
    @ordinerii Жыл бұрын

    I’m one of the few defenders. I’ll take GT over Super any day.

  • @jbell2013
    @jbell2013 Жыл бұрын

    Gt was better than super

  • @JIX9ISLER1986
    @JIX9ISLER1986 Жыл бұрын

    The only people who "hated GT" grew up on the horrible English dub Those who grew up watching the JAPANESE VERSION took GT for what it was....a passion project going back to the roots of the original dragonaball and also implementing what Z started.......too many parrots online "hate GT" Because that what other people claimed -

  • @navar237
    @navar237 Жыл бұрын

    I completely agree with you. For all its faults, I think GT was the continuation for DBZ we got and everyone should have just accepted it. I think the ending of GT served its purpose of being the intergalactic battle on a bombastic scale that DBZ was building up to. A Hero’s Tale was such a bittersweet, heartfelt, and in its own right a perfect bow on the series. I remember seeing it for the first time when I was just a child and feeling so emotionally attached to it. The way pan told Goku Jnr about the original Goku and his adventures is exactly how we would have told it to future generations. Returning the series to a more grounded version of dragon ball, one which returned to the original dragon ball with a nod to DBZ with an SSJ transformation was honestly perfect. I wish DB super had never happened and instead all of the dragon ball fandom would have ended their viewing with this movie. Bittersweet and grounded, with a hint of SSJ - it truly was special.

  • @denpogi10

    @denpogi10

    10 ай бұрын

    blame db evolution for that😅

  • @codychurchill4569
    @codychurchill456911 ай бұрын

    I don't understand why this gets so much hate GT was very good

  • @Darkestmod
    @Darkestmod Жыл бұрын

    Okay, really, REALLY great video my guy, you just explained basically what was lost in dragon ball, why it didn't feel as amazing as its early years in OG and Z. But the downfall in Z was due to toriyama's fault. A lot of people don't know this, but he got tired of writing dragon ball after the cell saga, mainly because he didn't write it in his gaggy style like in his older Mangas (Arale and dragon boy) so he wrote the Buu saga to be as bad as possible so people could stop reading his work, but it backfired, because a lot of people really liked the Buu saga, so he was forced to finish it regardless. You could tell he got tired of the series, when he continued it, he simply wanted money, and that's it, which is good for him, but terrible for us.

  • @JackOfen

    @JackOfen

    Жыл бұрын

    He didn't write the Buu Saga as bad as possible to make people hate it lol. That sounds like absolute copium from Gohan fans because Toriyama just didn't like him as the main character.

  • @OrangeStarHighSchool
    @OrangeStarHighSchool Жыл бұрын

    GT is objectively better than super in every aspect.

  • @SparkShadow212

    @SparkShadow212

    10 ай бұрын

    Nope, the starting arc was horrible, the Baby Saga was fine, Super Android 17 was a snore, and the Shadow Dragons, just like the rest of the show, was a good concept done poorly.

  • @OrangeStarHighSchool

    @OrangeStarHighSchool

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SparkShadow212 yeah and even being subpar in writing we had better character development we concluded the story didn't sell out or push pedo trunks Mai nonsense sit down spark shadow. Super is soulless I'll take flawed ambition over soulless by the numbers ANY day, any real man would.

  • @OrangeStarHighSchool

    @OrangeStarHighSchool

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SparkShadow212 I mean super stole the first arc from GT so the first arc in GT gets elevated to god tier (stealing pilaf gang age related wish( Super 17 developed 18's character and showed us that humanity is frail as krillin is old it's GTs way of saying grow up you can't be the hero forever. I mean krillin saddest death is objectively in GT or Dragonball "help me" isn't that sad. Every single super movie has been recycled into the show that gives it an automatic F for unoriginality. We had the tournament of power which stole the second set of dragonballs that GT did better. Sorry actual consequences and karma are better storytelling than a child god so powerful he can have his royal position split in twine. Angels break the in show in universe lore of not being able to turn back time when Frieza straight up wins. Trunks and mair are just down right now excusable.

  • @OrangeStarHighSchool

    @OrangeStarHighSchool

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SparkShadow212 also the starting arc of GT at least at the respect for it's source material to NOT drop the ball in the timeline and not scrap the only black character

  • @SparkShadow212

    @SparkShadow212

    10 ай бұрын

    @@OrangeStarHighSchool Super is soulless? How many hype moments in Super have outclassed GTs, cuz I can tell you, a fucking lot of them. Super may have its flaws, and believe me, it has A LOT of flaws, but it has some of the most memorable moments in all of Dragon Ball. The start of the Goku Black saga, the first glimpse of Ultra Instinct, Vegeta teaching Cabba Super Saiyan, Hit scenes as a whole. The story in Super is flawed in a lot of ways, but it managed to create so many hype moments that, at the very least, soften the blow of its own flaws. Want an example? Take Goku, Frieza and 17 Vs Jiren live watchings. Have you ever seen that much hype for a scene of an anime before? It shows that while Super isn't flawless, it still managed to entertain. Meanwhile, Since the first arc of GT, it was PAINFULLY BORING! You say that this arc is godlike? Bullshit, I wanted to gouge my eyes out with how bored I was. It only picked up during the Baby saga, when the story actually dove into something interesting and almost made it good. Then it drops to boring again with Super 17 and only get slightly better with the Shadow Dragons, but still boring. And then it has the audacity to make that beautiful ending, which only worked because of OG Dragon Ball and Z. GT didn't earn that ending. You say that Super is soulless, when GT is the most boring interpretation of Dragon Ball that has ever been created (not counting the movie that shall not be named)? Yeah, sorry, that's just not true.

  • @polskirzniwiarz5034
    @polskirzniwiarz5034 Жыл бұрын

    the creator him self said gt IS canon

  • @shecklesmack9563

    @shecklesmack9563

    Жыл бұрын

    Never happened. Why don't they use Super Saiyan God/Blue/Ultra Instict/Ego? Why is Vegeta barely stronger than he was during the Buu arc? Where are Beerus and Whis? Why is Kaioshin still fused with Kibito? Why is Freeza in Hell as weak as he was when Trunks killed him instead of being Black Freeza-level? GT and Super cannot co-exist in the same timeline.

  • @polskirzniwiarz5034

    @polskirzniwiarz5034

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shecklesmack9563 they sais it's canon not in the same timeline

  • @stefanjamel5735
    @stefanjamel5735 Жыл бұрын

    I fell off after the cell saga. I saw it becoming just screaming fights. So I just watch the fight episodes and move on.

  • @justinarzola4584

    @justinarzola4584

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish dragon ball became more of a generational thing with Gohan, goten and a canon Goku Jr as protagonists to keep the series going without being just the Goku show.

  • @thelegendarymarioman8461

    @thelegendarymarioman8461

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@justinarzola4584 agreed Gokus character ended after Frieza, so they should have kept him dead after Cell

  • @kc41510
    @kc41510 Жыл бұрын

    GT was hella wack

  • @buster3041
    @buster3041 Жыл бұрын

    I swear fans give toriyama way too much credit and not enough to super and gt.

  • @Shiirow
    @Shiirow Жыл бұрын

    GT better than Z? Please, you must have cracked your skull open worse than Goku when he was a child. GT was a show whose whole identity was "Remember when this happened in Dragonball? Heres a shittier knock off of that." Only interesting thing was the dark dragon arc but that was too little too late, even the japanese audience tuned out after only 64 fuckin episodes. DB? 153 episodes. DBZ? 291 episodes. DBGT? a pathetic 64 before it was canned. Even Kai in its trimmed down state has more episodes than GT. It even only got a single movie which played our more like a what if fanfiction with creative characters like "Goku Jr" and "Vegeta Jr". XD

  • @AxelBeats

    @AxelBeats

    Жыл бұрын

    How to tell someone read the title and didn't watch the video. Stay mad though friend

  • @samyakchhajed

    @samyakchhajed

    Жыл бұрын

    Gt was relaxing and nice to watch overall for me. Not like Z in which fights were dragged endlessly.

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